/swg/ - Open warfare edition

Just gonna put this right here for the new thread:
http://www.starwars.com/news/donald-glover-cast-as-young-lando-calrissian-in-upcoming-han-solo-star-wars-stand-alone-film

>>49893813
I'm liking it

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Armada combat just has something about the vast scale, but I always love fighter combat within those battles. Also anyone painted up their scyks?

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>>49893858
>Dat paint job
Clarkson, is that you?

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>>49893879
Nope. I did it to pair with my y wing and I wanted to try my hand at racing stripes

>>49893858
THIN

YOUR

PAINTS

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Claimed in the name of the Galactic Empire.

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Anyone have any imperial squadron patches? Im designing one for my X-Wing case and could use some inspiration. Saw a couple on the wook but figured /swg/ here would have more

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>>49894227

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>>49894299
Unfortunately, my Google-fu isn't strong enough to find any more actual Imp unit patches. Most of my search results show generic Imperial logos, IRL event patches, etc. rather than in-universe units.

Anyone here play Armada through vassal? Think you guys would be all over it.

>>49894227
>>49894299
>>49894358
The Imperial "Hell's" Hammers I think had a patch.

Does someone have scans of the visual dictionaries / ultimate guides?

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>>49894358
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:WookieeProject_Images/Gallery_of_insignia,_logos,_and_symbols

>>49894569
Well, there you go. I'm a blind motherfucker.

>>49893788
In-atmosphere fighter combat, Vietnam style.

>>49894587
So bricky, unmaneuverable fighters armed only with ordinance weapons getting torn apart by smaller, agile ships with guns?

>>49894491
Check hungryewok

Huge ships. What would be fitting for the Scum and Villainy faction?

>>49893813

Eh, sounds like it'll work, but he better grow a mustache.

>>49894695
I don't know of any specific ship types, but a heavily armed Hutt yacht would fit. Some anon in a previous thread had a good idea for a palp-equivalent Jabba crew card.

>>49894686
I love you right now. Thanks!

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>>49894695
>>49894738
Minstrel Class Star Yacht would be the best.

But we're gonna get an Action freighter and a Gozanti rehash whether we like it or not.

>>49894695
Crusader corvette, action-series, CR-90 and gozanti reskins, Discril Cruiser, DP-20 maybe

>>49894843
A shame Hammerheads are taken by rebels, they look damn cool and would have fit well as Scum ships.

>>49894738
>a Palp-equivilent Jabba crew card

That'd be sick. I love the Jabba theme expansion for Imperial Assault and while Black Sun are cool I'd love some more Jabba stuff in X Wing.

>>49894299
>>49894358
>>49894569
Cool thanks guys

>>49894942

My favorite idea for Jabba is the ability to once a round flip up a discarded illicit card. While not as directly impactful as Palpatine in all situations, it would do some crazy shit in Scum. "Jabba gives me more glitterstim, because he likes me do much".

Another fun one would be to place a "Bounty" condition on an enemy ship which rewards other ships for attacking it.

>>49894843
It's almost the same length as the CR90 and Raider-corvette even.

>>49894994

We could poach a few of the ideas from STAW and have him run around with a hidden pool of Illicit cards he can dole out like Santa Claus.

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>>49894994
>>49895031
Soooo much glitterstim!

>>49895020
Significantly wider though.

>>49895031
STAW?

>>49894994
That would also let you turn hotshot blasters into permanent turrets.

>>49895077

Star Trek: Attack Wing.

How about you can give Jabba a pool of Illicit cards, and anyone within 1-3 can use them?

>>49893788

I like Armada combat best, with starfighter combat coming in second.

Something about fleets of warships slugging it out while fighters race between them does something for me.

So wait, Rebels are getting TIEs?

>>49895130
Well, TIE, singular.

>>49895079
Well, one hot shot blaster at least. Which might not be bad, you could have N'dru Suhlak rolling around with what is essentially a 4-dice 1-2 turret.

>>49895130
>>49895135
Well, at most four of them and none as cheap as the standard imperial one.

>>49895152

The new mod and title are also both unique, so even with four pilots there's only so much you can do.

>>49895152
>>49895135
Gay

>>49895539
Please dont be one of those SJWs invading this thread recently

>>49895204
I actually like that. It makes it feel like its stolen and also now rebels vannot run a stolen tie swarm

>>49895152
their all unique pilots, and the lower PS ones are as cheap as the unique TIEs.

You can't full swarm, but Zeb is likely 13 pts, Rex is 14, and Sabine is 15, so they definitely add cheap ship options, and you can definetly run more than ones.

You can split up the mod and title, so you get a fair number of options.

IMHO the mod is only going to go on Ahsoka, and maybe Sabine with title.
Rex and Ahsoka can do some vary interesting support addition to a list for fairly cheap, and can use the title for interesting stuff.
Zeb is mainly just going to be a cheap ship to add instead of a Z-95. And Sabine can either run support or mobile disruption.

They aren't going to play like Imperial TIE fighters, but they are pretty cool

>>49895697
they aren't a swarm for sure. They can add new cheap ship options to rebels, or cheap mobile support ships which is a thing that rebels, or anyone really, didn't have much of.

The closest before was probably the TIE bomber shuttle title. HWKs are not manueverable, and other support ships are typically well over 20 pts naked, while even an expensive Ahsoka build it is 27 pts total.

I'm sure the tournament scene will settle on one or two builds as 'best', but I think for more casual play their are a ton of options added by the Rebel TIEs.

I'm interested an excited to see if the other two ships do something similar. The Quadjumber seems likely, while the batmobile will depend on getting support based tech options.

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>>49895539
>>49895569

>Calling someone gay as an insult
>"SJW"

>>49896026

With the exception of the Striker (unless they pull something new out which wasn't suggested before) I think all of the new ships have a strong support element, which kind of contrasts how Wave 9 Has a lot of offensive focus, with the two firing arc ships, the protectorate being all about in your face, and the shadow caster bringing some serious pain with offensive control.

Now we have the Rebel TIE as a pocket support ship, the Batmobile has Coordinate on a non-epic ship, and the quad has a crew slot and it seems like a lot of trolly options. And the U-Wing, of course, seems a bit like the Rebel Lambda, so it'll probably be an ideal support boat.

The striker, on the other hand, seems like a return to form for the Empire. "Fuck support. Rebels get a TIE? well now you get a new tie you can swarm and it goes fast. ZOOM ZOOM MOTHERFUCKERS".

so if I just finished Thrawn trilogy and want more star wars books, but
A) am more concernd about good books than following chronology or publishing order
B) have a moderate amount of patience for looking stuff up on the wiki to figure out the plot not included in the book.
What should I read next?

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>>49896169
The X-Wing novels.

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Does any art exist of that Gand variant on the TIE bomber with the wings cut out like an interceptor, 4 laser cannons, a 6-missile conc launcher, and a hyperdrive + shield generator installed?

>>49896129
I consider the Striker and U-wing to be seperate. I don't even think they are part of the same release.
They also seem to be connected based on the movie apperance while waves are linked by a rules concept.
(Wave 9 was all about firing arcs, Wave 10 is about conditions).

I agree that the ships in Wave 10 are mainly support, but the scum and rebel ships are pretty cheap and (confirmed form rebs, likely for scum) mobile. The Batmobile is fairly expensive and who knows how mobile.
I am curious about the tech that will come with it, as basically all the tech so far is combat based, and not a thing you would spend 2 upgrade lots of point on a support ship for.

>>49896169

The bounty hunter wars by kw Jeter

>>49896169
X-wing novels
I, Jedi
Han Solo Trilogy
Han Solo Adventures

For the last and final moment, the Hand Of Thrawn Duology

>>49896169

The Yuuzhan Vong saga :^)

My playgroup is thinking about getting either Imperial Assault or Rebellion.
I'm leaning more towards Imperial Assault after a quick bit of research.

Can someone who's played either give a bit of a quick rundown of the pros and cons of each game? I'm aware they are completely different.

We have anywhere from 4 to 6 in our playgroup if that helps.

>>49896556

IA caps at 5 players. It's pretty fun though, the only downside is that setting up the map can be a pain in the ass. Otherwise its a fun system, and the campaign has a really fun progression for both the Imperials and Rebels.

Has FFG acknowledged that their fighter rules are dogshit?

>>49896728
Last I checked their forums were still choked with people who defended it on the basis of "fighters are made of spun sugar and balsa wood in the movies, so it's perfectly accurate and appropriate to be the way it is and anything else is heresy".

>>49896790
While that's not wrong, PCs are playing...well, PCs, not blood-filled flak.

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>>49894944
Knocked together a first draft based on the patches from the wook page. Needs work but want to get some ideas from you guys. Thoughts?

>>49896878
b-b-but even named characters got shot down or put out of action in one hit

>>49894633
Did I stutter?

>>49896556
Imperial Assault is pretty quick and it's easy to keep everyone engaged. 2-5 players can play, I've seen some people houserule allowing a 6th to play by letting them either control whatever bonus character the Rebel players can unlock or by letting them work with the Empire player and basically split some of the forces between then. Each mission runs around an hour or hour and a half, so since it's not overly long, you can more easily assure everyone can stick around or be interested enough or stop playing when you need too, while the campaign mode obviously allows for more missions and means you can keep playing as much as you want. Variety in how you progress through the main missions and side missions helps give the core game a ton of variety and allows you to do a number of replays without feeling the need to buy one of the deluxe expansions to really start shaking things up. Also there's going to be an app down the road that'll function as the empire player, allowing the whole group to play as Rebels down the line (which won't work very well if you have 5+ players, but still nice if you cap out at 4). Skirmish is pretty nice and interesting as well; I wouldn't consider it as a main reason to buy into the game, but it's still fun. Setting up maps can be a bit of a pain, takes around 10 minutes to do each map if you keep the pieces semi-organized.

Rebellion is a great game and nails down the broader things of the Galactic Civil War. It's got a good amount of replayability and plays through well. Handling combat is a bit, whatever, nothing too bad, but it takes a little time to resolve and isn't super interesting. The big things that might be an issue is that playing a game can be kinda long (generally around 3 hours in my experience) and while it says it can handle up to 4 players, it's really just splitting up the tasks of the Rebel and Empire player with their partner; it really works better as a 2 player game.

>>49896183
Best

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So, I'm gearing up to be in an upcoming TOR-era (post TOR actually) Star Wars FFG campaign, and I'm curious if this is a good character idea.

>Twi'lek (male) Jedi
>Mystic Class
>Advisor Spec
>Additional Starfighter Ace Spec
>Influence Force Power
>party pilot and party face
>captains a Dynamic Class smuggling ship
>was once a prominent makashi focused duelist and decided he wanted to go to the outer rim to help people
>eventually went native, decided that the restrictive Jedi code didnt sit well with his personal crusade
>eventually just stopped sending reports back, and stopped returning to coruscant
>embraces his own morals but tries to hold a line between good and evil while doing the best he can for the most amount of people
>basically an altruistic force sensitive former jedi version of Malcolm Reynolds, in a fashion.
>stopped carrying a lightsaber, but still wears his crystal around his neck - the weapon is too much a symbol of who he used to be to conscience carrying it.
>Instead, just wears a BIG IRON custom heavy blaster pistol, but prefers to talk his way out of fights.

I might spec into Gunslinger if there ends up being tons of Jedi in the party, or go Makashi if the GM decides their needs to be more lightsabers.

>>49896169
Thrawn Trilogy
X-Wing series, including I, Jedi
Han Solo Adventures
Han Solo Trilogy
Tales "Trilogy" (Tales From the Mos Eisley Cantina, Tales From Jabba's Palace, Tales of the Bounty Hunters)
The Courtship of Princess Leia
Shadows of the Empire
Lando Calrissian Adventures
The Truce at Bakura
Hand of Thrawn Duology (but save it for last/after you read the good 90s stuff)

Jedi Prince

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>>49893858

I was so excited the night of the FAQ I ran home and painted mine. I've since we bought another, keen on a third.

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>>49897505
You need some real conflict in your history. You can't be head-tentacle Mal without scars from your own 'Battle of Serenity Valley'.

Think up a good, tragic reason to chuck the mainstream Jedi besides "I'm too cool for school". Go full Sgt. Powell and say you put away the sword because you killed a kid. Doesn't need to be edgy, but it does need conflict.

>>49897861
>zero_days_without_mentioning_jedi_prince.holo
>reset_the_clock.png

>>49897505
>>49898007

The most straightforward approach might be to take anon's suggestion very directly and have a big battle in your character's past on some Outer Rim planet. During or after the battle, he realized that although the Jedi forces won, the civilians they were supposed to protect lost their homes to the fighting, and many died. He saw firsthand that the Jedi way had done at least as much harm as good, and decided to follow a different path.

It doesn't have to be super dramatic like his whole family getting killed in a tragic accident at the lightsaber factory. Those sad, quiet realizations can lead to some of rhe most believable backstories.

What builds are you going to try out when HoTR arrives?

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As long as people are asking for advice on characters does anyone mind if I post my work in progress for my FFG Star Wars character?

>>49898512
I'm liking Rey with VI, Engine, Kanan, Finn, and the Sloop Title. AT ps 10 you get to choose a direction to face.

I'm debating swapping the Engine though and giving her something else. She's hanging out with a poe-8 with Pattern Analyzer, Black One, Autothrusters, VI, and r5p9.

If I cut the engine down to a Burnout Slam, I can make that poe-9 with PTL instead.

Alternatively, buy cutting Black One, I can give Rey PTL.

Thoughts?

>>49898513
Not at all.

>>49898512
I've already got my fluff Rey/Finn/Poe and bb8 list, that will get tried with various tweaks.

New Han with Luke crew and Wedge, because again I love fluff lists

And Nien Numb, Snap, and Hera shuttle to try out as much wacky manuevering as possible.

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>>49898594
>>49898475
>>49898007

I decided I wanna make a Mandalorian character, but I wanted to avoid the stigma that comes with the hundreds of badass copy pasted Boba Fett clones that have been created. So I decided my main background character concept was just the anti-thesis of a Mandalorian, which quickly became the biggest fuck-up of a Mando.

Enos Adlai was born on Concord Dawn in 24 BBY. He wanted to be a Mandalorian Protector for the same reason kids wanna be cops, to catch the bad guys and be a hero. His mom and dad supported it, they owned a small space port and he did some work there fixing ships, droids, the like. He managed to become a prospective member of the Protectors.
But he didn't quite have the right snuff to become a full member.

Everytime they would go on a job he either fumbled or was put in a position he couldn't shine in, like guarding something. Eventually he was just put in a Janitorial/Maintenance position since they couldn't find a use for him. He couldn't shoot to straight, he wasn't too fast or strong, his leadership ability was lacking, he knew rules and regulations, but that was it.

So despite the fact that he was back to fixing Droid and ships and cleaning boots, armor, and floors he was still happy, cause at least he was helping his heroes despite the fact that he may never be one.
However after a year or two his supervisor decided to retire to the countryside and his soft spot for Enos was the only thing keeping him around. So when this new guy came in he decided that the janitor was gonna get the boot. I'm trying to figure that out. They decided that the best way to let him down was not really let him know. They gave him a 'top secret mission', gave him an old star fighter and set him out. He unwittingly helped a cell of rebels and got tossed in an imperial prison. And that's when he found out they lied to him.

The game is going to begin with several of the PC's getting rescued from jail by the other PC's.

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>>49898802
2/2

I think I'm going to go with giving a sour if optimistic demeanor. He's the kinda guy that does the right thing but not without grumbling about it. Also, he's likely to have trust issues, but to avoid turning him into an angsty kid, he's gonna try covering that with being a smartass or making sarcastic comments. I'm also gonna make him say 'Pure Pazaak' every so often to see if anyone in the group gets it.

So ffg star wars kinda seems actually neat after watching Rollplay Balance of Power.

Is it a good balanced system? It seemed rather cool the stress mechanic was rather interesting

>>49898849
>>49898802
Seems like an interesting character. I assume you'd be putting a focus on repairs and maintenance, with some okay piloting skills and good knowledge?

He seems like someone who could be played as quick to complain on minor shit, but anything serious you can bet he'll be there 100% and full of support. That about accurate?

>>49898849
My bounty huntress would bully him mercilessly.

VCX-100: · Kanan Jarrus (38)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Tactical Jammer (1)
Recon Specialist (3)
Recon Specialist (3)
HWK-290: · Kyle Katarn (21)
Draw Their Fire (1)
· Moldy Crow (3)
X-Wing: · Biggs Darklighter (25)
· R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Went 3-0 with this list tonight against tie swarm, brobots and dengaroo. Kept the formation tight and used kanan as a blocker to make it as difficult as possible to kill Biggs. Kanans ability is bonkers in combination with Kyle and holds 4 focus per turn for canceling dice rolls for anything that can't hit Biggs. The beauty of it is I was able to split attacks between Biggs and Kanan with my positioning and use the crow to eat damage for Biggs after his astromech was gone. Very fun list to run.

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>>49898885
Pretty much. His class at the moment is Droid Tech, and I'm planning on putting some points into Mechanic, Modder, or Rigger. Not sure at the moment. Farther down the line since my GM's games can go on for a while, he might get a bit better and go Gunslinger.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head, and he may complain about some serious stuff too. His main goals from the outset will probably be to make his way back to the Protectors, although he isn't going back without the ability to show them how wrong they were.

>>49898894
Tell me more.

What are some of the major drug cartels in Star Wars? Excluding the Hutts and Black Sun, I mean.

>>49898990
>Tell me more.

Grumbling optimists are her favorite people to annoy. Him being a Mandolorian would be an obvious avenue for constant 'casual' references to cheese him off.

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Imperial Assault got a preview for the upcoming wave today: a look at the Luke Skywalker (Jedi Knight) pack.

New Luke is so different than the core set version, which was very team oriented and offered sort of a toolkit. This RotJ-era Luke is almost a pure beat-stick.

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>>49899148
Ah. Does anyone have any advice or questions. I'm trying to brainstorm him since my GM's games can go on for a while, so I'd like him to be as fleshed out as possible.

>>49899230
Only that your core characteristics are more important than your skills, and that armour > weapons at chargen.

You know, i wish there was a comic that had vader doing more missions for palp as darthvader before he got fucked up and needed the armor

>>49899252
>armour > weapons at chargen
I would never even consider creating a character that doesn't at least have heavy clothing for +1 Soak.

>>49899343
I honestly tend to encourage Obligation trading for money, or sometimes just give more money that can only be spent on chargen stuff just so people can afford gear appropriate to their concepts. Helps that I have a group that tends not to be abusive in that regard, admittedly.

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>>49899329
Other than sacking the Jedi Temple, eh didn't do anything before the armor.

Of course, it could be an alternate history, where Vader didn't get totally burned to hell and he wouldn't need the armor.

>>49899465
Id prefer alt history where he just had a few more missions pre armor is all

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>>49894208
>MFW someone at the LGS spergs out over Ada

>>49899533
Story time?

>>49899494
Sounds interesting.
I'd love to see more of him being badass as a Sith Lord.

>>49899552
Nothing really to say, store owner threw on TIE Fighter and he got upset about how women are not in combat roles in the Empire.

>>49899194
To me, it makes sense since it felt like he got a bit distant from the Rebel Alliance between V and VI.

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>>49899575
>women
>combat

>>49899575
They are though, canonically. Even stormtroopers. Women can make pretty decent pilots, too.

>>49899598
Don't think I don't recognize that smug.

>>49899465

For some reason this reminded me of an AU I wanted to think of built around the "Emperor Vader" concept, where Vader has a turn of heart and decides to depose the Emperor with Luke's help, and be a more benevolent despot. This would inevitably fail as Vader gives in to his anger once again and becomes increasingly unhinged, forcing Luke to depose his father and break up the Empire once and for all. Anyway a key point of that would be Vader crafting his own suit of armor, something that isn't nearly as restrictive or painful as what Sheev set him up with. I toyed around with some designs in my head, but I'm a shit artist so nothing came of it.

Hey /swg/, I need ideas for an alternate universe plot twist that would make the post-prequels era rather different without sending everything totally off into crazy town.
Any thoughts?

>>49899575
so he a sexist sperg.
is he fat?

>>49899636
Anakin defeats obiwan on mustafar, destroys almost all the jedi and quickly overthrows the emperor leading to an even harsher empire

>>49899625
I remember playing Star Wars: Episode III the game and in one instance, you could play the last mission as Anakin instead of Obi-Won. Either way, at the end of it, after you kill Kenobi, Palpatine comes out of his ship to congratulate Anakin and hand him his new red lightsaber.

He immediately take it and kills Palpatine and claims himself as the new Emperor. Kind of a neat twist for the child me.

>>49899636
Like, how different? I have a few ideas

>>49899636
Vader and Palatine mutually kill one another at the end of RotS when Vader discovers that Palatine lied about his children by chance.

>>49899666
Hey satan, I would say different enough to be a big twist, but not so different that the basic background of republic wins the clone wars and turns to empire, order 66, jedi hunted ECT remains the same

Also, I trust my players to be able to interact with major characters without being retards or assholes, so that's on the twble

>>49899746

See >>49899625 and >>49899657

Just take the term "Emperor Vader" and do what you will with it.

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>>49898932
Stress control of any kind would rip you to pieces. Also since you don't have Adv Sensors you can just block Kanan and prevent most of those focus tokens.

Also how the hell did you do damage past the initial joust seeing as how you have no turrets on any of your ships?

Also X-wing storytime:

I fucking love Quickdraw. Six game win streak with her so far.

Build: Ruthlessness, FCS, Sensor Cluster, Title, Shield Upgrade

Parked her at range one of Dengar in arc. Dengar had initiative. Shoots at me gets two hits, decide to spend her focus to not take damage.

Shoot back, roll three hits naturally, opponent whiffs. His Fenn Rau was at range one of Dengar, he takes a damage too. FCS kicks in. R5-P8 activates but misses.

Dengar then does his thing and shoots me back. He does two damage. Quickdraw lost a shield token. Quickdraw activates. Shoots back again and with TL does four hits. Opponent blanks again, and Fenn takes yet another Ruthlessness damage.

So that's the story of how two ships shot each other four times, and I did nine damage in one round with Quickdraw.

Let no one tell you that the /SF is garbage. I fucking love this ship, and have been doing very well with it.

>>49896222
>I consider the Striker and U-wing to be seperate. I don't even think they are part of the same release.
You're wrong. They're all part of Wave X.

>>49899746
I think I have a good idea. I hope it's coherent, since I've been drinking for fourteen hours straight and I'm not quite sure

From A Certain Point Of View: Revolver Ocelot Extreme

So, two alterations to the clone wars. First is purely personal preference, which is extending it to a full ten years or so, to be more like it's portrayed in Legends.
Second, a bit (a year or so) afore the end of the clone wars, General Grievous discovers that the seperatists were behind what happened to him, and not the jedi, so he goes loose and takes most of his army with him.
Anyways, the meat of it is that maybe three months before the end of the clone wars, anakin and obi-wan get severely busted up in a battle and end up comatose. Since the prognosis is anakin not waking up, sheevy p activates his backup plan, a clone of anakin that he's been growing snce he first met him, and is ready. Using sith sorcery and high tech, he copies anakin's memories and personality over to the clone, along with a subtle dark side suggestion, just to be sure. A month later, Vader (how I'll be calling clone anakin to avoid confusion) and obi-wan come out of the coma, while anakin remains in it, and sheevy p stashes his comatose ass in an obscure mid-rim hospital under a john doe jedi identity, completely off the books. After this, the whole standard RoTS plot goes off, with the real anakin still comatose somewhere secret.
A few years later, Grievous' rebellion accidentally stumbles on the comatose anakin, and thinking him just a regular jedi, hide him somewhere in the outer rim on the off chance it'll be useful someday.
A few more years on (I'd personally call it nine total, but that's just my sense of poetical fun), anakin wakes up, and all goes to hell and gone from there.
>con't

>>49899746
>>49900445
Now, the trick of it is, as far as vader and anakin both know, they're the REAL Anakin Skywalker, and obi-wan really doesn't know what to think.

There are a lot of possibilities for PCs to get involved with this. Maybe they show up at the hospital for other reasons half an hour before a group of inquisitors and blackest ops boys hit it, and they've got to get anakin out. Maybe they're just outer rim good ol boys trying to make a profit out of the abject chaos coming from the Hero With No Fear reemerging to destroy the empire. Maybe they're padiwans who can't possibly pass up this chance to train under the last and best of the old breed. Maybe, if they're the type, they could become anakin's quirky miniboss squad. Maybe they're merceneries or rebels employed by anakin to find his children. Or maybe they're old 501st clones ready for one last ride with their old leader. Maybe they're rebels who want to set the world on fire and finally see the chance. Lots of possibilities

>>49899949
I've never heard anybody call the SF garbage, but I imagine they don't know how to position it.
Though my personal preference is Backdraft, Advanced Sensors, TIE Mk2, Title. SF's maneuver dial has a lot of red, so I like to mitigate that by doing my action immediately beforehand, then having the option of clearing my stress with one of my many greens next round.

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>>49899636
I guess you could have the CIS still under Dooku and/or Grievous out in the space boonies as separatists.
Smaller, possibly allied with the Corp sector and has some military ability to bother the Empire once in a while but its primarily an economic pain in Palps arse.

>>49900623
>"Come closer so I can hit you with my laser sword you fucks!"

What is the prevailing opinion on strong, independent grey jedi who don't need no discipline and never have to suffer the consequences of indulging their emotions and playing with the dark side?

As you can probably tell, I think they're shit.

>>49901000

Take them out the backyard and beat them with the hose

How the hell is the rebellion in Star Wars: Rebels staying active? Every episode they lose material and personnel, which they occasionally replace with even less material or fewer personnel.

>lose a bunch of ships
>oh don't worry guys we got like five Y-wings
>lose a bunch of pilots
>oh don't worry guys we managed to recruit like two guys from an Imperial academy

I know resistance movements suffer atrocious losses but this is ridiculous.

>>49900623
Hey I just read this as my first ever star wars comic

>>49901000
Thousand confirms.
Let them think they're straddling the line up till the moment that they finally go 100% stalin all 24/7 and ain't ready to recognize it. Give em scenarios where a non-psychopathic human being would go one way and their pathetic asses would go the same they had a lick of humanity, but their dark side bitch asses would go full dark retard and suffer horribly for it, as they deserve, and feast on their tears as they think they'll get away with doing wrong, but at the last cold dark moment, they discover that God's gonna cut em down

Also, if you've got it physically in you, whip up on them like a rented mule. Grab a crowbar an git going

>>49899120

Pyke Syndicate is the other big one we know.

For legends add unspecified Twi'lek criminal gangs, slaver syndicates, and megacorporations. Essential Atlas doesn't give call outs (apart from Trade Federation pre-CW for megacorps), so you have freedom there. The Galactic Spice Mining Guild (front for the Empire) was a big spice producer/mover, had legit permits.

For canon, it's not specified so apart from Pykes you could add the Crymorah Syndicate?

>>49899465
>>49899625
I think an Emperor Vader would've fixed a lot of the issues of crime the Galaxy has. I can see him leading a 'War on Drugs and Slavery' by rolling in fucking ISDs and AT-ATs against both big and small time cartels. Hell, he wanted to but Sheev stopped him. No Sheev means all the breaks are off.

>>49901218
I can't see Vader having the patience to actually run a state, not with how hands-on he's always been and his contempt for politics and politicians.

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>>49900452
>>49900445
Luke has two dads.

>>49901235
Vader's rhetoric is the same actual fascists used, so I could see Vader's Empire being a purely fascist heavy enforcement state like Nazi Germany as opposed to Sheev's Empire which was more like Francoist Spain and while it had fascists in it, there were also traditional monarchists and militarists, old Core nobility and so on. Fascism plays up old glories (so I guess old Republic victories, perhaps the Pius Dea era of colonization) but demolishes old institutions that no longer serve them. Just like Hitler promoted the German Empire as an ideal nation as opposed to the Weimar republic but took no steps to bringing back the Hohenzollerns and even opposed them.

So with Vader you'd probably see a more traditional fascist state. The guy even had (obvious) contempt for the 'officer class' much like Hitler did.

>>49901117
They've got shit loads of Awings, they can't be nearly as poorly funded as suggested.

>>49901218
Sure, emperor Vader would have been the opening of the Seventh Seal for the Hutts and associated styles of organized crime in the galaxy and rode on a pale horse, but his 100% obvious Armageddon plan would have surely cleaned out all the obvious sorts of organized crime, but the still nasty low-key Vory types would still be around, and unless 100% nuclear time was 24/7, they'd still be at it

>>49901291
I could honestly see Vader launching a war to exterminate the Hutts as a species.

>>49900452
>>49900445
>sheev and vader declare anakin a old jedi performing tricks to destable the empire
>rebellion believes the whole thing to be a trick by sheevy to get them to expose themselves by reaching out to one of them
>anakins only way to survive is too build an army through some sort of crime syndicate

>>49896275
>>49896169
Not often recommended, but these are fantastic.
I also HIGHLY recommend everything else by Tim Zahn.

>>49901291
Oh, no doubt about it. You can't just erase crime, but a majority of the Galaxy would be looking like modern EU and US in terms of crime. Yeah, it's there, but you don't have Space Slug Don Corleone hanging out with his obvious slave girls. Instead it'd be Space Tentacle-headed Lex Luthor with his high-class escorts and golddiggers that does some shady business and publicly touts Emperor Vader's line.

>>49901370
Xizor.

Also, 0 tolerance for desert worlds. Death Star working over time.

>>49901413
Also no beaches anywhere.

Okay Ive downloaded
>tales of the jedi
>KOTOR
>TOR
>Republic
>purge
>Dark Times
>rebellion
>thrawn trilogy comics
>crimson empire

any other essential SW comics, whats Xizor in?

>>49901413
>Xizor
Yeah, he's gonna make it. He's not an idiot and if Vader's the big guy Emperor he won't make moves to agitate him like he did in the original line of him just being Sheev's enforcer. Vader'd probably get Xizor to make him a Human Replica Droid of Padme. Or better yet, he'd go bully Kamino to do it for him for free and probably think 'ok, I cloned my fucking apprentice why didn't I do this the first time I was here'. Her body's still on Naboo so its not like he can't fetch a sample and go to town.

>>49901291
>>49901303
>>49901370
Honestly, an incorruptible individual who's also willing to bring pure annihilation at the drop of a hat is possibly the only thing COULD handle organized crime. Really, you'd be seeing the end of the hutts and Black Sun, leaving a ton of local organizations to step up and be annihilated. The real thing would be the NR trying to keep them all down without going 100% vader

>>49901457
He's the main villain of Shadows of the Empire.

>>49901484
So you're saying Vader is the Star Wars version of Stannis Baratheon?

>>49901492
Hmm seem to be having trouble finding that, will keep looking out. Any ther essential comics?

>>49901501
Well if he ended up Emperor...

>didn't want the position but got it anyway
>could at least fulfill what he always wanted and stabilize the Galaxy
>uncompromising, pure iron, you fail you're fucked, but if you do well you will be rewarded
>doesn't really care to play politics only does it when he has no choice
>publicly seen as a worshiper of a 'weird religion'

Yeah, pretty much checks out. Just add Lumiya or Vergere as Melisandre, Leia as Shireen and Han as Davos

>>49901528
He was also born of salt and smoke.
From a certain point of view

>>49901528
>>49901562
Also even if his officers hate him his soldiers follow him to the bitter end because he fights in the vanguard and leads from the front in pretty much every battle.

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>>49898007
>>49898475

I was gonna go that direction (conflict) but it seemed a bit cliche, so I decided against it. I was basically going to explain it that the outer rim is a savage place, and you get worn down by it a lot.

I also had an idea that he fucked up in some way, and actually went to prison for it. The Jedi tried to make it go away, and he was like "nah, i gotta do this" and instead the Jedi disowned him, and he served a stretch in some awful place - afterwards, he just stayed in the outer rim, and decided to do good things to make up for it.

I dont even know if thats an idea thats technically possible, really.

So I don't expect this to work very well, considering the position you'll have to be in and lack of re-rolls on the dice, but I think I just hit Theoretical Maximum Damage In "One" Attack:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!112:188,14,128:-1:25:&sn=REEEEEEEEEEE

>>49902092
well replace fearlessness with lone wolf and thats the standard ndru build so its not awful

>>49901458

If Vader's top dog, the senate would probably still exist in some manner or another, he would never have the pull to totally dismantle them, though you can bet he would physically remove senators who were untrustworthy or conspiratorial. A hefty set of purges would probably result in a much smaller senate of a few hundred at most, probably in this state like a central Mofference.

>>49899598
Shut up anon. All the controversy over combat infantry aside, women are perfectly good fighter pilots and astronauts(and they actually have an advantage in resistance to G-forces).

>>49899949
Man, I've never been a fan of the TIE/sf design. It's literally just a bulked up TIE with a red stripe, you'd think they'd design it to closer resemble the TIE Advanced.

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>>49898849
>>49898802

I think its a neat character, I really do. But somewhat unnecessary to have a massive chip on his shoulder "just because he wasn't bad ass enough to be a full mando"

People hate traviss mandos, and thats fine, but the real reason they hate them is the fans more then anything. The culture without fett is remarkably open to any type of character, and in the repcom books, there was both a doctor, and a girl who was nothing but a mechanic who owned a shop - and both were full mandos. If you take into account the resol'nare, its not like you HAVE to be some walking super soldier - you just gotta follow the culture. You don't even have to be human, which is a big plus.

If the Protectors are a super badass unit in your lore\gm's lore, then it makes sense he might not've been up to their standards. But really, if it were my campaign, i'd just tell you "dont feel constrained to see every mando as boba fett - thats where you make the mistake - mandos are as diverse in skill set as anyone - they even have poets and musicians - dont get caught up in the stereotype."

Despite that though, very cool character dude.

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>>49901117
They didn't even get the Y-Wings, they were handed off to what I've headcanoned is called the Core Alliance.

To answer your question more broadly-the Ghost can't be the only ship operating out of that cell. Obviously the blockade runners and Phoenix Squadron are off doing their own missions and running supplies as well. But I think they ARE in dire straits. Their default engagement mode is to flee because every time the Empire seriously engages anyone who isn't the Ghost crew they lose fighters and usually suffer damage to their """capital ships""" as well. That's why Ezra got demoted when he pulled his stunt with the Y-Wings-he forced the fleet's hand into a direct engagement they were in no way prepared to fight. And honestly, if the writing of the show were just a tad more realistic, the normal rebel personelle would HATE the Ghost cell. The rest of them are out there suffering horrendous losses that they really can't replace, losing dear friends and comrades, and the Ghost crew always seems to get away without a scratch. Hell, a lot of them probably wonder why THEY can't have a Jedi with them to alleviate losses, couldn't Kanan or Ezra take a break from eachother and help them out for a change? Of course that's tempered by how grateful they are for the supplies that the Ghost brings, and many of them are on good personal terms with them-but that resentment is still probably in the back of their minds.

>>49901484
And you're not going to stamp it out completely, since the root cause of drug dealing and their associated cartels is still poverty.

>>49901117
>>49902301

I think a big factor is that completely successful missions doesn't make very interesting episodes, so we only see those where shit gets real. I'm fairly certain the Ghost and crew has a few "Everything went just as planned" mission in between the episodes we actually get to see.

In case I ever get this FFG RPG campaign off the ground, would the following character be within the universe?

Near-human species, with small ridges on the temples (like bumps, not spikes or lekku), work kinda like Togruta head-horns. From an isolated world, with their own Force tradition, he got recruited by Luke after Ep. VI, as part of a decentralized kind of "education", where each instructor (like him) would basically take care of their own mini-academy of sorts, with some support from Luke HQ (who'd also teach, maybe the final stages, or more specialized stuff?). Their thing was that the master would give one part for the student's weapon, and in his case it's a hollowed out quarterstaff with two heavy balls inside, that move to help with hitting with it, his master has given him one of the balls. If the crew gets lightsabers, he'd provide the "pommels", a ceremonial token thing rather than anything major.

I know that the NJO wasn't decentralized, but would the rest be too out-of-sync? Campaign would take place 2-3 years after VI, with the idea being that after the Emperor died and DS2 got blown up, the Empire lost power, but is still around, just rebels are a BIT more blatant, and there are not-uheard of defections.

>>49902685
Is this Legends based or NuCanon?

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>>49899586
Rebels also needed another playable beatstick. Obi-Wan is good, but Han and Chewie are practically unplayable, as are the OC campaign heroes who theoretically are beatsticks.

>>49901509
The Darklighter comic, X-Wing, the Clone Wars comics from before TCW. If you like silly stuff and dubious canonicity, you should also check out Star Wars Tales, Tag and Bink, and the old Marvel comics.

>>49902979
I guess Legends more than NuCanon (especially since apparently in NuCanon the Empire fell entirely ~1 year after Ep VI right?), but I don't plan on following every tiny detail, just picking stuff from wookieepedia that would be cool, at best.

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>>49902247
It's not a massive chip in his shoulder, its just like flunking out of the Police Academy for not being fit enough.

>>49898802
Would being born on Concord Dawn even make him a Mando?

>>49903435
Being a mando is about the culture rather than birth place

Has any effort been made to release content more in-line with the prequel/sequel films? FFG seems to have a bad case of 'OT-itis'.

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>>49903608
Force and Destiny can kinda have that feel. Also nothing is keeping you from running games in that era.

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post rare SD's

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I'm running a heist for my roomates in the ffgswttrpg system. I'm a little stuck on the floor plan of the actual heist itself and I was wondering if you guys could give me some tips and layouts for ideas I can use in my next session.

>>49903650
I'm doing it right now!

Treating it like some Clone Commandos got their own animated series.

I have a small Xwing game coming up today.
Anything cool I could do with just an Xwing and a Kwing?
Just looking for fun ideas instead of running the most competitive configs.

>>49899949
Oh I agree. The Tie SF is pure evil in a lot of ways. My GF runs an Imperial elite build using one that is pretty nasty.

Her Tie SF
Quickdraw- PTL, Electronic B., SF training title, stealth device.

Semi-suicidal, but it chews big ships and elite ships up on its own.
For ships PS9+, fly into range 1, focus PTL target lock.
Attack before your opponent has a chance to take actions (focus or evades) due to electric baffle removing stress & 1 sheild. Then let his ships move, prob out of arc. If they do a K turn, shoot them with rear arc range 1, have the rest of your ships lined up at the rear.

If its a big ship, well same applies but you can chose to either attack it twice as part of an Alpha strike (if you think you can kill it before it has a chance to shoot) or you can just leave your stress and attack it once and dare your opponent to attack you.

>>49903995
What are you heisting? Bank, Hutt trophy room, what's the target and the target's owner?

>>49903995
Floor plans for banks are pretty easy to find on Google. If you want something more complex, maybe take the floor plans from military bases in KOTOR or TORtanic. You can also never go wrong with taking a floor plan from Dwarf Fortress.

>>49904144
If you are not running competitive, maybe try Miranda and Luke? Give Luke R2D2 for fluff, maybe have miranda loaded out with ordnance?

Could be fun.

>>49904192
>>49904230
It's going to be a heist in a mansion with high security. I'm thinking durring a party while there are a lot of people there. They're going to be stealing the "insert bigass jem name here" out of the owners personal stash and be giving it to the employer. They have on their team a slicer, sentinel, and a big game hunter that hits hard and is good at scouting. And my dnpc getaway driver who is going to get knocked out durring the getaway so they have to fly out themselves.

>>49904281
Gem*

>>49904281
Just call an NPC an NPC, a DMPC is a very specific kind of NPC and not one you'd want to admit to using on the /tg/.

Alright, I've been running some test games and I think this is the best Scyk spam list I can currently field.

>3x Tansarii Point Vets
>Attanni Mindlink
>"Heavy Scyk"
>"Mangler" Cannon

>Palob Godalhi
>Attanni Mindlink
>Twin Laser Turret
>Black Market Slicer Tools

Palob does a stellar job of ensuring your Scyks can be focused every turn, which means they can stack focus/evade unless they're able to barrel roll to dodge out of any shots or they're absolutely sure that they'll be unmolested and can take a target lock.

BMST on Palob is great because you can slip him a focus anyway to compensate if he gives up his action.

I do though want to test the idea of swapping out one of the Manglers for a Proton Rockets/Guidance Chips combo, but I get the feeling that if I want ship to give the list some short range punch is be better swapping in a Protectorate and confusing everything when it's flying backwards next to my other ships.

>>49904341
I wasn't sure what to call home because he's part of the anthology of characters we've made so he technically is a pc. But yeah I am treating him as an npc.

>>49904281
As for layout there's probably going to be a big ol' hall, because Star Wars loves their tropes. A mezzanine with some security droids, in tuxedo paint-jobs, overlooking the party. As for the gem I'm gonna guess it'd be in a heavily guarded safe, with more security droids. Maybe a few of the guests are actually disguised guards or maybe Imperial Agents dun-Dun-DUUUN
>>49904381
So an NPC using the PC Char-Gen?

>>49904408
Well it is on fondor! And yes he's a character I intend to use when one of my other roomates want to run a game.

>>49904343
>confusing everything when it's flying backwards next to my other ships.

Don't forget to give your ships matching paintjobs.

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>>49904458

>>49904514
Perfect. Can you post a picture with one of them facing the other way?

>>49904541

They're not mine. Just saw the picture online earlier today and thought it was funny enough to save.

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>>49904514
>asked last thread if somebody ever did Scyk paintjob for Protectorate fighter or vice-versa.
>somebody actually did it
Absolute madman, that's amazing.

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>>49903838

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>>49901117
>>49902301

Hearing all this really makes me want to play a disgruntled Phoenix Squadron pilot for my group's next game.

>Starts out as young, idealistic Luke-esque farmboy
>Joins the Rebellion with his best friends so they can all fight the Empire together and be total bros (maybe free their homeworld or some shit, idk)
>Watches in horror as everyone but him is brutally murdered en masse by Vader, those spider-monster things, etc.
>Losses are barely even recognized by high command; ends up attending their funerals by himself
>Becomes more and more disgusted as the Ghost crew continually gets away scot-free and constantly gets backpats from high command
>Finally draws the line when the last of his dead friends are replaced by two random assholes from the Imperial Academy
>By ANH, has become a bitter, cynical asshole who openly mocks anyone who tries to "play hero"
>Still carries a holorecording of him and his friends right before they signed on with the Rebels

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>>49903838
>>49904709
lewds coming through...

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>>49894695
A salvage ship or mining barge, with or without drones.
It would have industrial lasers which do more damage the more they're kept at the same target.
Anything within range 1 of the mining barge can be "attacked" with the ship's heavy machinery. Critting means the mining barge has grabbed onto the ship.

So do you guys think we'll ever get the return of Edgelord Starkiller and Juno Waifuclipse? Or are Ezra and Sabine already taking the spot?

>>49905184
Highly unlikely. That said, heavy civilian equipment re-purposed for war is my fetish so damn you for making me want this.

>>49905473

I'd like to see Juno and Kota again (although Kota is probably incredibly unlikely with Blind Kanan and Chirrut from Rogue One) but I wouldn't want to see Starkiller again unless he was seriously toned down.

Honestly we'll probably never see any of them again. I'd bet Disney want to forget TFU ever happened

I really enjoy the game though, I've played it a few times now.

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>>49905473
If Ezra and Sabine become a couple I'll be suprised. I don't think that's the route they'll go concerning them. As for Starkiller and Juno? I doubt it since Starkiller was kinda stupidly overpowered and Juno's character kinda boiled down to being Starkiller's waifu.

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>>49905490
>>49905530
Am I the only one who is pissed off about TFU was cancelled? I really liked the series and it had so much potential as a game series. It actually made force users have super powers.

Also music was dope.

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>>49905630
>had so much potential as a game series
Squandered by being wasted on devs who lacked that special Japanese flavor of batshit crazy, though.

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>>49905630
I was more pissed off about 1313.

>>49905694
That could of been a defining start for next gen titles.

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>>49905694
Fuck that's an awful picture. Here take this one in compensation.

>>49904798
>depressed beyond all hope, he's the first to volunteer for Y-wing duty when the Death Star threatens Yavin
>does his best, makes his attack run, waits for death
>he ends up being the sole surviving Y-wing pilot
>his comrades at the base curse him, knowing that he wanted to die, but seeing their friends die in his place
>now he is become like the Ghost cell, survivor of all dangers, doomed to be hated for living when everyone around him dies

>>49905694
Isn't that, or something similar to it, being worked on again? I remember at E3 they announced Amy Hennig was working on a new Star Wars game and the few clips they showed reminded me of it a lot.

>>49905724
>Rebel High Command has the genius idea of setting him up as a false defector

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>>49905724
>>49904798
>>49905736
His name? Rosh Penin.

>>49905694
Eeeeeh. The scummy, villainous criminal underground is like my favorite part of Star Wars (Suck it, forcebabies), but what was shown of that game looked pretty dull, generic and gray.

>>49903608
You mean a good case.

>>49905724
That sole surviving Y-Wing at Yavin is Keyan Farlander.

>>49905630
You're the only one.

>>49906069
Different continuities, anon. Farlander isn't nucanon.

>>49905969
Eh as some anons pointed out above it's always just made me think the galactic government of Star Wars is so fucking inept and careless. If it was at least US levels of corruption (yea, i know), at least 70% of current crime rates of the Galaxy would go down.

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>>49906360
It's the wild west anon.

>>49906343
Fuck you, it is Keyan until nucannon says otherwise!

What's a better wingman for Fat (new) Han between Nien Nunb and Red Ace?

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I want to be shot down by flight lieutenant ada!

>>49907129
>slow ship

>>49907294
Maybe that anon has a humiliation fetish.

>>49905969

Actually, with Steve Dillon's passing and the recent storytime on /co/, I'm envisioning a Star Wars version of the Punisher:

>Clone wars vet (Republic army volunteer)
>family was caught in crossfire between gangsters
>dedicates his life to one-man war on space crime

>>49907129
>ywn your TIE pilot waifu in the cockpit of her ship

>>49907595

sounds pretty cramped and uncomfortable

>>49907620
>screwing in the cockpit of a TIE
>lose your balance and hit the missile fire button
>shoot a proton torpedo into the inside of a hangar bay, but fortunately it doesn't have time enough to prime
>you now need to explain this

>>49907620
TIE bombers have a lot of space

>>49907620
Not in a bomber it isn't

>>49903079
>dubious canonicity
none of its canon anyway

>>49904281
my advise, look at the Jewel of Yavin adventure module for EotE. Big ass gem on auction, party tries to steal it, and the winning bid.

>>49907294
Yeah...slow.

https://youtu.be/PN_CP4SuoTU?t=4m1s

>>49907846
Dubious Legends canonicity. /swg/ deals heavily in Legends anyway, so it's still helpful to explain to anons why certain things in really old material won't match up with other Legends stuff.

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>>49907943
>Max atmo speed 850 kph
>60 MGLT at full load
>LaughingA-wings.holo
>LaughingInterceptors.holo
>LaughingSR-71.png
>LaughingMiG-31s.png

Even Y-wings have higher top atmo speed and acceleration.

>>49907944
>muh legends matters more than anything

I will never understand. Half of legends is garbage.

>>49906067
youre an edgelord never reply to me again

>>49907984
>muh legends matters more than anything

How did you infer that from anons post?

>>49907996
>Prefers OT
>Edgelord

I remember the time when words used to mean things.

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>>49907943
>*locks missiles*
>*loops behind you*
>"nothing personnel imp"

>>49907984
It's not about "why is Legends important," it's about "why does X concept not work the way it does in later Legends media." The same question will eventually be asked once nucanon has filled out.

>Why do fa/tg/uys talk about past editions of tabletop games
>Why do comic book fans talk about Elseworlds, Pre-Crisis, Silver Age, etc.
>Why do some gamers still talk about and play X-COM: UFO Defense

Same principle. Just because it isn't canon or the newest thing, doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed. And by your logic, half of Legends is not garbage, and thus, worth a look. The original anon specifically asked about good comics--stuff that is not garbage.

>>49908037
>*flips in place*
>*shoots you with one light laser*
>*you explode*

psssh...

>>49907943
You know, watching that, I can't help but think of the officer who had to tell the higher-ups that, yes, the task force commander felt it was absolutely necessary to field two ISDs and an Interdictor to destroy two frigates, two corvettes and some transports.

And that in spite of their overwhelmingly superior firepower, they still managed to get some of their own TIE pilots killed.

Not that anyone in the Empire would care, except for Tarkin who would cheer at a textbook application of his doctrine.

>>49908224
Why do you assume that I'm a Phoenix squadron pilot, anon?

>>49908256
To be fair, if you had the resources to massively overkill any enemy force, why not? Also a good safeguard in case the rebels leaked false intel to lure you into a trap.

>>49902247
I did a short writeup for Clan Ordo when I made a character from that clan wherein they had been delegated the task of being the record-keepers for the Mandos and eventually became equal parts lawyers and historians. My character in particular focused on archaeology and the study of Galactic history and wouldn't let anything stand in her way if there was some juicy artifact to recover. Sort of a Mando Indiana Jones.

>>49908037
>*flips in place*
>*shoots you with one light laser*
>*you explode*

psssh...

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>>49908224
>>49908355
>>49908367

>>49908256
The background docs indicate that the guy is actually a fan of the Tarkin doctrine. His tactic consists of seeding a wide area with probe droids while he waits in a random location. When a probe droid phones home, he jumps his task force in and sorties the fighter wings entirely to engage the enemy and keep attack craft off the interdictor, carefully approaching and using the capships' firepower to finish the enemy off.

>>49908408
Blame mootwo. It took the submit like 3 times.

>>49908408
I think they are both trying to express how they are going to flip behind the other's back, with their light laser (folded over a thousand times).

>>49908256
>>49908313
>>49908414

Also makes sense when you consider the Rebels' inferior numbers as a full fleet and their fondness for hit-and-run tactics. Frigates and corvettes may not be impressive compared to even one ISD, but they're the backbone of the Rebel fleet and each destroyed ship is a bigger loss for the Rebels than the Imperial Navy.

The Imperial commander knows the Rebels will try to flee, because it's their favorite strategy and their best move against an Imperial battlegroup. Hence the Interdictor. And if he's trapping them, then he needs the firepower to kill them quickly because they're going to concentrate their efforts on disabling the Interdictor so they can escape. And no one wants to be to guy who loses an Interdictor.

Also we have no idea who or what is onboard those Rebel ships, but it's presumably important if they're taking the risk of operating deep enough in Imperial space for there to be an Interdictor available in the first place.

>>49909009
*be the guy

>>49893788
Say what you will about the First Order but they were surprisingly eco-friendly. Starkiller Base for instance housed a sizable nature preserve with entire ecosystems. Not to mention it was solar powered

>>49909427
Okay, but how many other ecosystems did it blow up when it fired?

is it bad kylo ren is my fave character

>>49909703
>>49909703
None, you saw those planets. They were cityscapes like Corescant. They were probably filled with cloying pollution and corrupt bureaucrats.

See, the First Order just wants to spread peace and environmental consciousness. The resistance is a bunch of anti-environmental terrorists

>>49909905
We saw ONE planet from the surface (which was clearly meant to bring Coruscant to mind).

Starkiller Base took down FIVE planets like some sort of cosmic homing shotgun.

>>49907620
Like the backseat of a volkswagon.

>>49909965
At least Hosnian prime was full city, Im not sure about the rest of the hosnian system but it was the new republic capital

>>49909965
A SOLAR POWERED cosmic homing shotgun

>>49909991
Just because a single planet in a system is a ecumenopolis does not mean every single planet is

>>49909996
>its just like in my japanese cartoons!

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FOR THE REPUBLIC!

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He dint do nuffin

Damn white stormtroppas capped him lik fo sayin "Greetins"

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>>49908062
>half of Legends is not garbage
Come now anon, it's a bit more than half.

>>49910420
Poor B1s STILL get bullied to death.

>>49910487
at least half is shit

>>49910242
>tfw no generic pilot, I can somewhat understand why, but I'd still like generic.

>>49910242
3 crewmen seems like overkill for a fighter that also carries an astromech

>>49910868

1 pilot, 1 co-pilot/gunner, 1 tail-gunner.

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>>49910536
No matter how hard you canon autists bitch, it's not going to stop people from enjoying the good times that Legends can bring.

>>49910993
>posts one of the universally acclaimed legends comics
>one of the half thats good
>HEY GUYS THIS ONES GOOD SO THE SHIT ONES ARENT SHIT

>>49910993
The only people I see bitch in these threads are those who are still salty some good works of Star Wars are not canon.

Separatist Shuttle for x-wing when?

>>49910487
>>49910993

90% of legends is complete shit.

>>49910789
I can't understand why, please enlighten

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>>49911016
>>HEY GUYS THIS ONES GOOD SO THE SHIT ONES ARENT SHIT
Nobody ever said that, just that "half" of Legends being shit doesn't mean the remaining portion isn't entertaining enough to read.

>>49911078
They are supposed to be used in limited numbers as scavenged leftovers of the Clone Wars.

>>49911082

My favourite part of that is where he goes "GUARDS. LEAVE US." and the two go round the column... only to discover there's no goddamn door to the lift back there and they're too embarassed to go round and get to the real one.

>>49907943
>>49908256
>>49908313
>>49909009

You never ever EVER deploy an interdictor (At least not an Immobilizer 418) without at LEAST Two ISDs or an ISD and two Victories to defend it.

>>49911162
And during the later fight they're still hiding as lighting sprays out everywhere

>>49911016
If you limit yourself to Bantam it's almost all good bar ...Seven? novels a few kidsbooks and a handful of the short stories.

It only gets crazy in the Del Rey era (And the comics to a degree, but even some of the worst 90s comics are pretty damn good in one way or another like Dark Empire's acid-trip art.)

>>49911292

>"FATHER! PLEASE!"
>"..Do you think we could...?"
>"No."

FFG rpg question, the AT-ST at the end of the AoR Onslaught at Arda 1 module can seemlingly one shot any player character on a successful hit. Am I missing something?

Also, when the AT-ST is firing at a player do I use range rules for its turrets to determine difficulty or vehicle silhouette rules?

>>49911890
Sil rules. And yeah it will oneshot. And be almost impossible to kill, my advice is just to reduce the vehicle scale from x10 to x5 or so.

>>49911890
Give your PCs some fodder friends who get blown to pieces in front of them.

Make sure to drive home the danger this thing poses, and if they fuck around, show them how serious it can be. (Maybe not kill them, but make them loose a limb or two)

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Speaking of vehicles, how hard would it be for a Rebel cell to acquire a reliable supply of man-portable ATGMs in the FFG RPGs? I don't currently have my source books on me.

>>49912078
>49912078
49912078
A standard RAW launcher is Rarity 8(R) and 7,500 credits, with the missiles coming in at 500 creds every half-dozen. As to how effective they'd be well...

>>49912160
No special snowflake beefed-up warheads or accounting for angles of attack, huh?

>>49912193
It's a Star Wars RPG, not a in-depth tactical simulator.

>>49912193
>>49912215
More missile types exist, and advantage can be displayed in a lot of ways. Hit up Dangerous Covenants if you want Merc shit.

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>>49912298
Sweet. Are there any splat books that contain stuff on the vehicle side? Shit like ERA, spaced armor, CROWS, APS, etc.?

>>49912332
There are, but they are scattered. AoR books are pretty good with vehicles.

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>>49912361
Guess it's time to save up and prep for the armor campaign my group's been clamoring for.

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I don't know any more.

>>49912622
Why targeting astromechs? Just to fill point costs?

>>49913276
Pretty much, it doesn't really matter which one.

>>49912361
>AoR books are pretty good with vehicles.
Forged in Fire is a good place to start for ground vehicles, (after the Core Book that is)

>>49893788
How exactly does SLAM interact with Advanced Sensors?

>>49913802
Slam has a provision that it cannot be performed as a free action.

>>49910420
RIP in Pepperoni, B1-268

>>49910420
That Episode was a little sad to watch, not due to bad writing. But there is something just a little depressing about seeing these old droids, that really should be in a museum, their systems distressed from age and use, and ultimately really starting to show their age, still desperately trying to continue a fight no one cares about, or likely even remembers...

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>>49914267
>their systems distressed from age and use, and ultimately really starting to show their age, still desperately trying to continue a fight no one cares about, or likely even remembers
Sounds like they're a good fit for /swg/ lorefags. Or Chicago Cubs fans.

>>49894695
CRUSADER'S WEAPONS ARE CHARGED AND READY

I really hope whatever's in line for rebels after the TIE/sab and U-wing is more interesting, the U-wing is cool visually but mechanically doesn't look like it will be anything special and I have no interest in the TIE visually or mechanically.

>>49894695
I'm still waiting for when they get suicide ewoks.

>>49912078
Probably a sponsor-
>Sympathetic imperial supply store man who slips a crate out the back once in a while with the serial numbers scrubbed off
>Planetary government who has stores of them as part of their defence
>Dump of them as relics of the clone wars... maybe a bit wonky in their effects
>Corporate testing units that went 'missing'

Course if they pop up anywhere notable, there will be 'CSI' types of investigation by the Empire to find out just where they came from

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>latest rebels episode
>entire droid army gets the shutdown signal
>a super tactical droid can apparently just say "nope" and ignore it
You know that doesn't seem like a very efficient shutdown signal

>>49914694
People unironically build weaknesses into planet-sized warships that if you hit it the entire thing explodes in less then a minute what took trillions of credits and months and months to construct.

>>49914726
>months and months to construct.

More like nineteen years.

>>49914726
No one was supposed to be able to reach the main reactor. Especially not a one-man fighter shooting a proton torpedo down a tiny exhaust port.
Doesn't excuse putting a ship-sized tunnel straight to the reactor in the second one.
Yes, I know Palpy didn't count on the shield ever going down, but that's no excuse.

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>>49907982
>atmosphere speed
>not trading off speed in atmosphere for a cheaper ship that gives more strategic mobility to establish space superiority

Nigga do you even logistics

>>49914758
>Doesn't excuse putting a ship-sized tunnel straight to the reactor in the second one.
It was part of the bait
Granted, the Empire would have won if they had just moved the star destroyers in immediately

>>49914780
Or if he had just put the tunnel in the plans and had NOTHING there in the real thing.

>>49914694
>>49914726
Seriously though, what was Palpatine planning to do if EVERY SINGLE SUPER TACTICAL DROID decided not to shut down?

>>49914726
>>49914758
>>49914780
>>49914815

>i dont know the plot of the new movie

fuck off idiots jyn ersos father intentionally built the port so it could be destroyed thats literally half the plot of rogue one you stupid fucks

>>49914827
Palpatine still controls the means of production so eventually the droids would have been ground out of existence.

>>49907982
Y-Wings are better in atmo because they have particle shields so their relative lack of aerodynamics is offset by a false aerodynamic profile from the shield.

>>49914694
Probably a little more complicated than that, likely wasn't just resisting it with his electronic brain, he probably had to physically remove the various killswitch hardware pieces and patch out the software.
>>49914827
I don't think he ever planned on Supertacticals being smart enough to figure out there even WAS a kill-switch in them and their troops.
>>49914758
>Doesn't excuse putting a ship-sized tunnel straight to the reactor in the second one.
>Yes, I know Palpy didn't count on the shield ever going down, but that's no excuse.
That was deliberate bait.

>>49914835
Call me a retard if you want, but I like to wait until a movie is out before I learn the plot of a movie.

>>49914884
>im a retard who claims to like star wars but doesnt watch trailers

>>49914890
I never claimed to like Star Wars.

>>49914890
>calls others retards
>throws assburgers tantrum

>>49914904
>hurr durr Im in a star wars thread but dont know the most basic information

>>49914904
>>49914890
>>49914914
So this is how the thread ends, not with a bang, but with retardation.

>>49914937
This what happens when just one sperg shows up and isn't ignored.

>>49914941
How the fuck do you not know the WHOLE POINT of the new film

>>49914948
Maybe we just want to be surprised by a plot twist in a film, rather than watch a modern trailer and have too much of it spoiled for our tastes.

>>49915325
>best trailer for any star wars film ever
>HURR DURR MODERN FILM SUCKS

youre an autist, jyn ersos father was taken by the empire for being a great scientist, he secretly resents them ad when desigining the death star made an intentional flaw AKA the exhaust port. Jyn is released from a rebel prison to go on a suicide mission to recover the plans of the death star from her father.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>49915325
It's not worth it. Just let the thread die with the sperglord unanswered.

>>49915343
I do believe that other anon intimated that modern trailers suck, rather than modern film.

Page 7, time for a new thread!
>>49915543

>>49915543
Youth wereth the chosen oneth

>>49914726
Yeah, a """"""""""""""""weakness""""""""""""""""" that requires literal magic powers to hit.

>>49914267
The meta joke about giving an end to the Clone Wars made me chuckle.

>>49914758
You think that tunnel was there because it was a design feature intended for the finished installation, and not because the whole thing was unfinished? Having a tunnel that goes from the surface to the heart of the station makes sense while the station is under construction. How else are you supposed to get the humongous equipment in and out of the reactor space?

>>49914890
>>49914904
>>49914914
There's nothing wrong with avoiding trailers. I avoided every TFA one after the teaser because I didn't want to hype myself up too much. At the time no one knew if it was gonna be good.

>>49908256
It's what comes from having a ridiculously huge navy anon. The US once deployed like 3 Arleigh Burkes to take down some pirates.

>>49916326
My headcanon before Rogue One was that the exhaust port was a last minute engineering solution put in because the reactor couldn't vent heat as effectively as it was supposed to and would probably blow the DS up if they tried to use the superlaser at full power. So a bunch of engineers put their heads together and work furiously for weeks trying to figure the problem out. Shit gets so bad that a rumor starts circulating that Darth Vader himself is coming back to deal with it. And then, one of the engineers remembers a sanitation specialist he knew who couldn't figure out how to make the toilets drain properly, until he just said "fuck it" and drilled an extra hole to the outside of the station. So with no better solution, the engineers decide to upscale the concept-just put in a giant fucking pipe that'll siphon heat all the way into vacuum. After two days of napkin math, they figure out that it needs to be two meters wide to vent enough heat. They take it to the designers, who bitch endlessly about how it's a safety hazard until some genius designer alters the angle of the pipe so the entrance is at a fuckhuge trench filled with turbolasers. Everyone agrees that they don't have to tell the bosses about it-as long as the laser works they'll be happy. Some intern submits a file to alter the master plans, but through a bureaucratic fuckup neither Vader nor Tarkin are actually alerted until X-wings are hurtling down that same fucking trench.

But I guess a rebel girl's dad putting it in to get revenge is a better story.

>>49914767
>strategic mobility
Thank goodness for ubiquitous, cheap, and small starfighter hyperdrives.