Who are the Adeptus Custodes?

>>49827648
Not this guy.

>>49827648
Oh good, another faction for the "It makes no sense that this is its own army" list.

I don't even care that much for Sisters, but at least they are an actual army in the setting.

>>49827732
Anon it's the other way around, Custodes were the Emperor's army, the SoS were a special group of Blanks who will be Agents of the Emperor.

>but THESE super-special toughest-ever most coolest badass super-soldiers are even MORE all of that than all the OTHER super-special toughest-ever most coolest badass super-soldiers because...

Man, Gray Knights were already pretty silly. This is just getting absurd. Also:

>They are to Space Marine as the Emperor is to his Primarchs

No, Primarchs are to space marines as the Emperor is to Primarchs. That's the point.

Wasn't it supposed to be that Custodes were to Astarted as Astartes were to Imperial Guard?

Also don't care, just 30k crap

>>49827935
Actually they hinted that they're getting a 40k army list as well.

>>49827967
Fucking why

>>49827977
The Custodes decided the Emperor doesn't need protection anymore. There will be a Black Library novel about it in December after The Beast Arises ends

>>49827977
Because GW stores can still ban FW models and 30k.

>>49827806
These guys are older than the Grey Knights, anon.

Oh boy, more spessmehreens!

>>49827977
More money.

Also, they may have realized that Emoeror Text To Speech is good advertising. Like how Bethesda did with Prequel and Fallout Storyteller.

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>>49828008
This is the dumbest shit

>>49828031
These are more like Sigmarines.

Which by some decimal is slightly better.

Hell, maybe this faction isn't full-retard towards alliances.

>>49827806
Anon, the Custodes have been in 40k since RT. Lore-wise, they're far older than the GK.

>>49828048
It's also fake.

>>49828048
I know. The best offense is a good defense. You should always fortify your position.

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So they just said "Burn it all, all of it, everything, put it all to the fire"

Ha, gamesworkshop you so whacky.

In order to help make a more..."fluff friendly" Blood Ravens, would it make sense to use the armor bits from this onto a Space Marine captain? Like I would still have it rules wise just be artificer armor, but Blood Ravens are supposed to have all this cool gear.

>>49827806
Adeptus Custodes have been this way since 1e Rogue Trader, dumbass. They existed before Grey Knights and were a thing at the same time as Marines. Hell, in a way they are older than Marines because Space Marines went through quite a few changes since then and they have been roughly the same.

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I want to see Custodes Terminators.

If regular Custodes are on terminator bases, what bases will Custodes terminators be on?

>>49828058

But their thing is protecting the emperor. They're called goddamn "custodians" in the sense of being the party responsible for care/maintenance, not janitors (although inb4 someone memes that oh-so-hilarious joke...)

They have literally no reason to be represented on the 40k table. 30k, ok, *maybe* but they are way way down the list of things that needed plastic releases.

>>49828136
The fact that so few people know what Custodian actually means is a damn shame. It's essentially 'Keeper', for those who don't know.

>>49827935
It's more like space marines are rubber stamp, factory molded soldiers and every Custode is a individually crafted piece of hand chiseled marble.

>>49828077
>The best offense is a good defense

I agree that the custodes as a army is dumb, but this is wrong.

The best defense is a good offense, if you end threats before they become something. It's much better than reacting to your opponent.

>>49828119
Centurion sized, probably.

Also, how fucking tall are sisters of silence? The bitch in the picture is only about a head shorter than that custode ans it looks like she's hunched over.

Wait so I just checked back in on their website and how the hell did they try and pull this shit at the same time as they also brought back genestealer cults?

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>>49827648
How much are the Custodians compensated for their janitorial duties?

>>49828378
FOR FREE
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>>49827732
Agree. Even in 30k lore they were not deployed as a standalone army, but as units attached to other armies. Case in point: Prospero was Space Wolves with Custodes and Blank proto-Sisters attached as counter-psyker specialists. I'd even argue their presence was as much to show the legal authority of the Wolves in prosecuting the war against the 15th as it was for actual martial prowess... of which the Wolves are hardly lacking themselves.

It would make more sense for them to be units available to Imperial army lists as Elite or HQ choices as individuals or small squads.

>>49827648
>They are to Space Marine

>>49828019
>>49828058
>>49828115

I'm fully aware that they're old fluff. I'm saying rolling them out as a playable army and trying to hype them up is silly, especially after hyping the GK as, basically, double-marines.

>>49827648
2squat4me. I'd prefer the Custodes to have a bit more height to them.

>>49827648
I really, really like this faction. They're legit my favourite. I love them.

They're not good as an army. Literally. They shouldn't be good as an army. They should be disjointed and disconnected as fuck, while being individually badass.

If that sounds like a horrible idea—good.

>bringing Sigmarines into 40k
Ah, the circle is complete.

>>49828410
kek

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>>49828394
Why would someone agree to do something like that for no compensation?

>>49828247
Its a TTS joke. Rogal Dorn.

>>49828481
Sigmarines will be cheaper to use as proxies most likely.
Not like anyone wants the AoS starter.

So could one custodian take on a primarch and win?

How about ten?

How strong are these guys fluff wise? On par with bloodthirsters?

>>49828510
They're nearly as good as thunderwarriorcats.

>>49828489
>not wanting to be in charge of washing the Emperor's sweaty wrinkled ballsack with your tongue so much you do it for free

Fucking heretic scum

>>49828442
GK are more psyker/anti-daemon Space Marines rather than being fully one above them. Custodes on the other hand are a completely different story.

>>49828489
The power of course
Am I on /sp/?

>>49828058
GK were introduced in 1988 with rogue trader in one of the 2 Chaos books.
Just sayin

>>49828510
Valdor beat Horus in a sparring match which Leman Russ found hilarious

>>49828527
gross

>>49828535
it's a /tv/ meme

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>>49828539
Custodes were in the actual Rogue Trader though

>They are to the Space marines what the Emperor is to the Primarchs

And yet 2 Murder Clowns killed dozens of them before being taken down.

Silly Mon'kiegh hahahahaha

>>49828576
Impy propaganda &c.

Internal consistency is for chumps

>>49827806
>No, Primarchs are to space marines as the Emperor is to Primarchs. That's the point.


The Emperor is to Custodes what Primarchs are to Marines; the gene template used to create them. (That bit of lore was borrowed for the Grey Knights as well at one point, I think.) Whether it's true or not is up for debate though, since the Emperor was also the gene template for the Primarchs. I guess that could make the Custodes like demi-Primarchs? Either way there are hints there may have been some other source for the Custodian template.

>>49828563
I don't browse /tv/ but they post like this all the time on /sp/

>>49828208
an ultimate lifeform?

(posing intensifies)

>>49828614
It's almost like it's a cross-board meme.

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>>49828614
It's a big meme

>>49828527
>not giving up every single thing you own for washing the Emperor's sweaty wrinkled ballsack with your tongue

carl, call the Ordo!

Wasn't Alpharius' gene seed tied in with the Custodes creation?

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>>49828576
>logic
>adhering to established fluff power levels
>black library

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Would they have their own vehicles too then? Golden Land Raider perhaps?

>I know its not a land raider

>>49828718
>their Land Raiders are to a Marine Land Raider what a Marine land raider is to an Ork Wagon

>>49828576
>And yet 2 Murder Clowns killed dozens of them before being taken down
I guess you are new and don't know how BL works.

Okay then, here's the protip: everytime they spew something so fanfic-tier, utterly contradictory or blatantly inconsistent, you will simply ignore that piece of fluff. Got it??

Enjoy Warhammer 40000!

>>49827732
Custodes were a 10,000 strong force that fought independently on multiple occasions.

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>>49828795
NOT GRIMDARK ENOUGH

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>>49828718
Golden flying Land Raider

With a big pointy helmet mounted at the back

>>49828795
>>49828715
No, here is a better answer.

Best of the Eldar > Best of humanity.

>>49828876
False. Even Lorgar, the shittiest of the Primarchs solo'd an Avatar of Khaine

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>>49828876
>there are people on this board that defend trashbag tier BL wankfiction in one book as actual canon

That is a really unflattering picture.

He looks so short and stumpy.

>>49828897
False, you are a liar.

1st, Lorgar did not fight the Avatar. He found a dying and helpless Avatar with no legs on a daemon world. Lorgar just mercy killed it

2nd, Awakened Lorgar is one of the top fighting Primarchs.

>>49828856
>Immediately opens new tab and image searches

Wow thats pretty sick I just looked it up it seems they have jet bikes to, I wonder if we''l get models for them.

>>49828922
It's canon. Your opinion on it is irrelevant.

Now go away before clownening begins.

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>>49828876
>implying murder clowns are the Eldar's best

>>49828922
It's like the second or third rule of /tg/ anon: BL is garbage unless it supports your opinion, then it's irrefutable canon

>>49828897
Calgar punched an Avatar to death. The Avatar is a joke.

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>>49828973

>>49828973
I might not like all the lore in BL but it's all canon.

>>49828970
Solitaires are literally the bestest fighters the Eldar have.

Dudes are even better than the Phoenix Lords.

>>49828876
Fuck off Eldrad, aren't you dead? Also how do you get off being so smug? The Emperor is 10 times older and wiser than you so who are you to question His will?

>>49827648
If I get a set with Prospero and can another set for myself, I suppose I could make a small force, maybe as allies for my Army, which I've been thinking of modelling as Terrans.

>>49829006
Eldrad knew the HH was going to happen while the Emperor was blind to it.

Eldrad : 1

Emperor : -40K

>>49828247
its a reference to "Emperor Text To Speech" youtube series. its pretty funny give it a watch

>>49827648
>Who else here hyped for Custodes?
Yes.

I've been wanting to at least see the Custodes since they started releasing HH stuff on Forge World.

Probably will play them.

>>49827806
>Man, Gray Knights were already pretty silly. This is just getting absurd. Also:
>I've never heard of the Custodes before

Though honestly a better comparison would have been like comparing something hand-crafted (like a Rolls Royce) to something mass produced.

>>49828115
>Hell, in a way they are older than Marines because Space Marines went through quite a few changes since then and they have been roughly the same.
Also this. Basically the only thing they have now that they didn't before was personality and armour.

>>49827648
I am, I was going to give Dorn a terminator bodyguard but now he's gonna be accompanied by a custodes squad.

Now if only Dorn had a fucking model.

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>>49827648

AI AI AI AI

>>49827806
No. In my opinion Custodes better be superior to SM. They are the personal guard of big E after all.
They are also older, and the general rule in 40k/30k is: older = rarer, but more advanced/powerful.

I'd prefer that their origins and creation process were kept somewhat mysterious though, just like stuff that pertains to the Emperor.

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>>49829004
>Solitaries are better fighters than Phoenix Lords

>it's all canon
>BL

>>49829162
Asurman, father of the aspects, was killed by a Keeper of Secrets

A Solitare soloed a Keeper of Secrets.

>Greentext
>no proofs.

>>49829035
The Emperor led his species to galactic dominance, while Eldrad's is doomed to a slow death

Emperor:1

Eldrad: -40K

>>49829148
I fully expect someone to make a set of pillarstodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>49829148
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

>>49829148
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

>>49829154
>They are also older, and the general rule in 40k/30k is: older = rarer, but more advanced/powerful.

They're also all unique, in a world where being the only one of something turbocharges powerlevels. That said, they're repeatedly said to be warriors, not soldiers; ONE Custodian will make short work of just about any given adversary, but a detachment of Custodes is not the equal of a squad of veteran SMs in mass battle.

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Bolter custodes when?

>>49827648
AYEAYEAYEAYYYYYYYYYYYYYE

>>49829289
If they work that into the crunch, it could be pretty interesting.

Hopefully they won't just go the "this is a great excuse to sell one model for the price of three!" route. They will.

>>49829148
>Look at this picture

Now I feel gay.

>>49828115
Lore wise, that stuff would likely be restricted to veterans and up, and even then likely isn't as common as DoW2 makes it out to be. A fair amount of that stuff can likely be accounted as gameplay/lore segregation.

>>49829148
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>49828549
Valdor was a beast. No custodian was on par with him. Using valdor as a basis for comparision is like using angron to judge the primarchs 1vs1 fighting prowess

>>49829148
AWAKEN

MY

MASTERS

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Why are custodes terminators so damn cool?

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>>49829335
Welcome to /tg/ also known as totally gay.

>>49829289
Reminds me of how an individual Mamluk would kick the shit out of one Frenchman, but they failed miserably at scaling up to beat, say, a regiment of those same French.

>>49829484
>I'm Sorry but you've thrown off the Emperor's groove. Prepare to be purged

>>49828407
Custodes are most likely going to be a mini codex like Tempestus or Harlequins. Useable on their own, but ideal as an ally force.

>Custodes rules in 40k

Just wait until every player and his dog allies Custodes in with his army because they "look cool" or "have good rules." The elite force who protect the Emperor and the Imperial Palace start showing up helping out random half-painted IG blobs like they were Deathwatch or something.

>>49829673
You gotta forge dat narrative nigga

>>49829484
>FW gives them golden Tartaros suits instead

>>49828008
So they decide he doesn't need protection anymore so they're gonna army around the galaxy protecting him? Why do people still pay this shit company!?

>>49829786
People don't pay for GW's shitty writing, they pay for the ability to field proper Custodes instead of converting their own minis and using GK rules or something.

>>49828467
You sound like a faggot

>>49829920
Debate me.

>>49829819
All right I understand the model part but doesn't their shitty writing affect rules/game play in the end?

>>49828008
Bait.

>>49827648
I"m not that well read on 40k role but I'm slightly interested if these guys are getting a list of their own.

Do these guys teamkill? How would they feel about the teamkill happy factions like GK and similar marine chapters?

>>49829223
Get Wargames Factory on it!

>>49829948
Yes and no.

Both serve only to sell models and will bend backwards for the new, overpriced, and overdesigned.

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>>49828639
>AWAKEN, MY MASTERS

>>49829004
>Solitaires are literally the bestest fighters the Eldar have.
Too bad that Deathwatch BLEW THEM THE FUCK OUT.

Custodes could be FW's next goldmine

GW will probably be retarded and only give them 30k rules and make them limited allies

We already got pictures of Custodes Rhinos, Terminators and Dreadnoughts but they'll probably not be coming anytimes soon in model form.

>>49829931
I'll fuck you and you'll like it, faggot.

>>49830573
No, I'LL fuck you and you'll like it, faggot.

Now debate me. It gets me hard.

I hope FW will do rules for Kitten.

>>49830579
About what you string bean looking mother fucker?

>>49829622
Nope. They're going to have a full army list.

Sisters of Silence will be Agents of the Emperor, which means that characters and/or units will be able to be taken as allies to loyalist armies.

Custodies will also have a completely unique list of vehucles and units, none of which will be shared with the Space Marines.

Custodes? Moar liek Cuckstodes, amirite.

>>49827648
>Space Marines
>Mass produced

>>49828876
>Best of the Eldar > Best of humanity.
Asurmen and the entire aspect system is based on his deep respect for the Codex Astartes.

Why else do you think he painted his helmet red? Codex standard marking for a unit leader.

>>49831052
Compared to Custodes they are, all marines follow one template thats repeated over and over again, their process is meant for mass production as each marine is also a resource to produce more marines

Custodes on the other hand are created on a personal basis, never to be reproduced again, each Custodes has had his flesh hand-crafted by the Emperor and his flesh wizards.

Guardsmen are bycicles, marines are cars, Custodes are works of art.

>>49829948
As much as it doesn't. I mean, there was no fluff reason for 4e CSM units to lose their mark when the standard bearer died, but it was a rule. There's also no fluff reason why vox casters don't extend the range of Orders.

Some people use new rules to do old things, some use new rules to do new things. Some love the new HH fluff, I myself prefer the old and model my units according to my own preferences with plenty of fluff and art from over the years to use as evidence that I wasn't just pulling shit out of my ass with different things.

>>49827648
>space marines
>sold as one man army, compared to imperial guard
>a single marine "can take on a modern-day infantry division WITH EASE"
>custodes
>sold as one man army, compared to the "mass produced" space marines.

jesus christ, i bet fa/tg/uys will still fall for this shtick.

>>49831338
Nah, I'm batting for team heresy now.
I didn't sign up to have my Legion upstaged by the Mary Sue brigade.

>>49831338

A fluff vanilla tactical marine would have issues taking 10+ Organized guardsmen, let alone a division

>>49828308
They are wearing high heels.

>>49831338
>>49831409
You think a Raven Guard could take 'em, with the proper amount of preparation?

>>49830722
>The Codex Astartes does not support this action.jpg

Still, could be cool. Mary Sue af, but hey, look who we're talking about.

>>49831446

Probably, since that's what they specialize in.

It's just that 10 lasguns shooting at a space marine who's just standing there probably isn't going to favor the space marine. Lasguns are weak but not that weak.

The specifics will depend on the individual scenario and marine in question but the point is that in a straight up fight, marines can't just god mode through thousands of guardsmen. They defeat the enemy with their shock tactics and lightning strikes, not necessarily brute force

>>49831338

Space Marines are elite shock troops

Custodes are elite elites, the top of the top, what's so hard to understand?

>>49828922
>canon
Why are you people always arguing about which part of fiction and make-believe is real-er?

>>49831338

I think this stems from the fact that all space marine stories tend to be from the perspectives of very exceptional space marines who are special by the very fact that they are better than the average marine.

The average space marine is quite competent but no where near invincible. They exist to job for bigger monsters/villains. Being better than the average marine is impressive but not ridiculous.

I miss 2nd ed when marines died in droves

>>49827732
the Custodes are an actual army

they are the Emperors personal army

when the Emperor goes to battle he leads the Custodes

the sisters are more like agents and jailors then an actual army

>>49828407

yes, they were

before the Emperor went to do his ultra secret project, the Custodes were the ones He led to war

>>49831338
>"Give me a hundred Space Marines. Or failing that give me a thousand other troops."
-Rogal Dorn

Apart from fanwank and bad novels, Marines are more force modifiers than straight up front line combat units. There's only so much heavier armour and a bigger gun can do in a regular shooting war between two armies. Marines excel in being able to adapt to situations, using various tools available to them and hitting the enemy where it hurts.

It's like commandos. Even if a bunch of commandos can do more than a battalion of men, tanks and planes can, a bunch of commandos can't replace a battalion of men, tanks and planes. Even if the Marines were the spearhead of the Great Crusade, the Imperial Army was always behind them.

>>49828576
>>49828795
>>49828876

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Homoerotic Superhuman Pillar Man" bullshit that's going on in the BL right now. Custodes deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Custodes on Holy Terra for one sample of the God-Emperor's geneseed (that's completely fucking priceless) and have been training it for almost 2 millenia now. I can even beat the shit out of Sly Marbo with my Custodes now.

Imperial apothecaries smiths spend decades working on a single custodian and train them in killing up to a million daemons to produce the finest warriors in the galaxy.

Custodians are thrice as strong as primarchs and thrice as tough for that matter two. Anything a sharp a primarch can kill, a custodian can kill better. I'm pretty sure a custodian could easily bisect a fully possessed chaos titan with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why FUCKING HORUS never managed to conquer Holy Terra? That's right, he was too scared to fight Valdor and his custodians of destruction. Even in the Battle of Terra, the daemons targeted Custodes first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Custodes are simply the best warriors that Warhammer 40k has ever seen, and thus, require better representation in BL novels. Here is a few tales I'm suggesting for them:

=> Valdor singlehandedly rip Horus limb-from-limb without Emps having even to get off the Throne
=> Custodians retrieving Corax and Russ, then closing the Eye of Terror
=> Custodians fighting their way through Commoragh and casually wiping out every single DEldar
=> A combined imperial taskforce, lead by and primarily composed of Custodes, driving back both the Tyranid hive fleets and their main force.

Now that seems a lot more representative of the fighting prowess of the Custodes in canon, don't you think?

tl;dr = Custodes are underpowered in Black Library novels, see my suggestions.

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W-what happens if the Hive Fleets get their hands on that Custode gene seed?

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>>49828407
>Even in 30k lore they were not deployed as a standalone army

When the Emperor went to war he had the Custodes by his side at all times, they were his bodyguard and his personal armed forces as he delegated the command of the legions to the primarchs.

>>49832555
They won't assimilate it, it assimilates them. They become the Emperor's golden horde.

>>49828959
>jet
NO, Sammeal has all of the remaining last jet bike

>>49832751
Of its type.

Lets face it, that's how they're gonna phrase it once every other Marine army gets jetbikes.

>>49827806
>Primarchs are to space marines as the Emperor is to Primarchs.

Primarchs are way more powerful than ordinary space marines, while I get the impression that the Emperor was only a little greater than a primarch. Like, maybe twice as powerful, tops. The mark of chaos undivided is a fairly big buff, but it's not enough to make Horus twice as scary as he would be otherwise and it was an almost fair fight between him and the Emperor.

>>49833241
>crippled Emps finally stops holding back and erases Horus from the fabric of existence with his mind alone
>it was an almost fair fight

>>49833241
>Emperor was only a little greater than a primarch. Like, maybe twice as powerful, tops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiUfnIzbVM

Horus with all the super buffs all the Chaos Gods could give him was still reduced to a smear on the floor once the Emperor decided he should be serious with him, this is after the Emperor was fatally wounded to the point of needing the Golden Throne due to being a huge softy.
RIP heroic guardsmen who gave his life for the sake of Big-E's realisation that Horus was a lost cause.

>>49829484
Gold

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>>49828603
every custodes is the result of emprah quality gene manipulation on a single human in an attempt ot make that particular human perfect, the results are considerably more powerful than space marines but far harder and impossible to mass produce, that said i dont remember anything saying that they have the emps dna.

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>>49828718
they have grav versions of the land raider just like they have galaxys best power armor that they never use anymore.

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>>49827648
Looks like Fulgore

>>49831791
>the Custodes are an actual army
>they are the Emperors personal army
>when the Emperor goes to battle he leads the Custodes
OK, then mandatory HQ should be the Emperor

>>49827806
1.) Custodes have been in a thing in fluff for ages it's about time they get their army. They're mentioned in the original Rogue Trader

2.) It's clearly said over and over in the HH books that the Custodes aren't necessarily better than the Astartes. They're better 1 on 1 fighters, but a Custodes army would lose to an Astartes army as they don't work as a unit or use combined-arms tactics.

>>49831338
It's fitting for 30k, as Space Marines were much larger armies and much more common than in M41.

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>>49830748
But they saved Horus, Dorn and Mort from getting BLACKED.

>>49828897
Hasn't pretty much everyone solo'd an Avatar at some point?

>>49834322
Not really, its gonna be Valdor or an option for a centurion type officer, its like saying Primarchs are mandatory HQ for marines which they are not.

Emperor will probably be a LoW in a loyalist army.

>>49834322
emperor of mankind
WS11 BS11 S11 T11 I11 A10 Sv2+/2++

relentless, furious charge, FNP2+

the emperor may choose any number of psyker powers from any discipline

emperors mind bullets
S:D AP1 heavy 5 apocalyptic barrage range:infinite, ignores cover

emperors sword
S:D AP1 armourbane, fleshbane, instant death, shred, blind, concussive, force, rending

before charging the emperor may fire his flaming blade

flaming blade
S:D AP1 assault 2 template
torrent
slow start
the emperor is often too lazy to fight at full strength, if the battle takes too long he might become agitated

at the start of your turn roll a d6, on a roll of 6, the emperor may shit out 2d6 warp storms

S:D AP1, apocalyptic barrage, vortex

>>49834463
>its like saying Primarchs are mandatory HQ for marines which they are not.
No, no it isn't
>they are the Emperors personal army
The Legions weren't the Primarch's personal army

>>49833241
Horus wasn't even comparable to the Big E at the height of his chaos powers. The Emps was holding back the entire time and until the last moment did he turn his power levels up to 10.

>>49834574
Should be S12 just so he can ID T6 with his fists

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>>49833241
>while I get the impression that the Emperor was only a little greater than a primarch.
...
>Like, maybe twice as powerful, tops.
>Like
>maybe
>twice
>tops

what the fuck am I reading

>>49829044
I'm tired of hearing this suggestion because the voice acting can be so horrid that I drop the show entirely until someone hypes it back up. whoever edits the show needs to get someone else to voice Magnus because that nasely voice is fukcing aggravating.

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>>49834864
>primarch obsessed with knowledge
>gets flanderised by the community as being the nerdy kid out of all the primarchs
>TTS picks up on this, as it does with all the "lol le ebin 1d4chan meymeys" it bases the entire series on
>anon gets trigered at him having a nasal voice

>>49834864
Yeah he's a cunt
But isn't in the latest episodes, try 23

>>49829481
To bad Horus and sang would beat his ass 9/10 times

>>49828711
No

>>49829148
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

>>49829148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob-YGGkQH10

>>49827648

Keep them a single unit, they don't need their own list.

>>49830342
WAMUUUU

>>49828156
>in the sense of being the party responsible for care/maintenance

>It's essentially 'Keeper',

If you could explain the difference, aside from some autistic semantic bullshit I would much appreciate it.

>>49835597
Google exists, you know.
"a person who has responsibility for or looks after something."
A librarian is a type of custodian. A librarian does not clean books, however, but just looks after them.

>>49834864
I don't think you know what having a nasally voice means.

>>49835641
>care/maintenance
>being different from "keeper" or "looks after something

Again I ask for you to explain the difference.

>>49835892
They're not different, and nobody has said otherwise.

Does anyone know where I can get 28mm Pillar Men minis? I need them for Pillarstodes conversions.

>>49832555
Custodes don't have gene seed. They are not a type of astartes.

Each one is its own project.

>>49836272
Just use Ork or Khorne Warrior arms, dude.

>>49832464
Don't forget revealing that the Custodes are really just Emprah clones who are also perpetuals that revive and can be turned into actual Emperor-tier beings if the real Emperor decided to activate his final asspull deus machina.

>>49834340
>It's clearly said over and over in the HH books that the Custodes aren't necessarily better than the Astartes. They're better 1 on 1 fighters, but a Custodes army would lose to an Astartes army as they don't work as a unit or use combined-arms tactics.

That's spoken from a biased Astartes whose clearly butthurt.

The entire siege of Terra and war in the webway kind of suggests the Custodes are legit awesomeness.

>>49830722
I can't wait for like 10th edition down the road where the power creep has gone full insanity both in the meta and fluff and trillions of custodes and primarch-like soldiers are everywhere fighting actual legions of chaos or alien gods at the guidance of the ascended revived emperor.

And the tabletop will be nothing but shiny gold super duper marines that are like stormcast mixed with astartes.

>>49831409
>he doesnt know the deathwatch promo
5:40, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X8dB8648VI

>>49831576
except Deathwatch is the top of the top of marines. oh, and grey knights. and after we'll all have bought custodes, they'll introduce a special unit of the emperor's direct custodes bodyguards who are the top of the top of the top.

what's so hard to understand?

>>49831833
except you have stories of single companies (re)conquering entire subsectors

>>49834340
Those were spoken by Word Bearers and anything they have to say about battle I'd take with a grain of salt. Not to mention later in the book a single custode managed to behead 5 WB captins before anyone had the time to react. The fucker was standing in plain sight of everyone in the room non the less letting them all know that they're under arrest.

>>49835407
pretty sure they were pham

>>49834340
>2.) It's clearly said over and over in the HH books that the Custodes aren't necessarily better than the Astartes. They're better 1 on 1 fighters, but a Custodes army would lose to an Astartes army as they don't work as a unit or use combined-arms tactics.

Well to be fair the Custodes of 30K were force multiplies much like the Astartes of 40K are.

>>49834864
>getting buttmad that the nerd primarch has an appropriate voice
lol thousand sons

The only good part of 40k lore is the part where Eldrad fucks up and dooms his entire species through his arrogance.

Oh, and the part where the Tau were infiltrated by the Slaughth and end being extinct because they can't keep up the quality of their toys anymore and their technological base isn't mature enough to make a lasgun equivalent that can be constructed and maintained by retarded newborns.

>>49831338
Custodes have been like that for years, and Space Marines were always mass produced. They use the freshest ingredients is all.

>>49838815
Fucking loremaster here. Never read or heard anything about the two of them being tied together buddy.

>>49838939
>>49838939
>>49838939
read moar lad

>>49838995
Point out your source

>custodes fluff is to spacemarine fluff as spacemarine fluff is to sisters of battle fluff

>>49828711
>>49838815
>>49838995
what are you on about, the custodes were created before the primarchs were found. also they don't have gene seeds

>>49827935
grey knights were not enough eh? this has gotten "this is not even my final form" level of wankery

>>49838939
>The third theory is that the XXth was deliberately preserved separately as an isolated unit for other specific or military reasons possibly to act as a strategic gene-seed reserve or indeed a control group as some have suggested. This theory also posits the possibility that the XXth proto-Legion was held back to undergo some further development and conditioning unique to them that the rest of the Legiones Astartes was restricted from by design. There remains evidence that this last "Alpha" stage-Legion of the Emperor led to the later development and eventual creation of his personal cadre of transhuman protectors, the Legio Custodes.

>>49839041
>the custodes were created before the primarchs were found
True but the Primarch's gene seed was laid down long before the Custodes were created

>>49839071
Taking second handed alpha legion theory and Golding it as cannon. Like >>49839041 said, valdor was already around and kicking Horus's arse when the main legions were just starting to get a foothold in the galaxy.

Not to mention there are a few other theories on why the alpha legion was kept at a smaller scale.

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I wonder if they'll steal the Custodes weapon and armour profiles for Asterion when they finally update him

>>49827648
Just how much more special can you get? Regular marines are already as powerful as the plot requires them, how many echelons of power are there above the 'normal' tactical marine?

>>49839231
The Custodes don't answer to the High Lords do they? I doubt they could get their hands on the genetic material.

>>49829148
Awaken my Masters!

>>49829148
Awaken my masters

>>49839260
Not the statline just the gear, Moloc walks around in a bunch of Custodes hand me downs instead of regular terminator armour.

>>49839047
They were always like that, m8.

>>49839260
>The Custodes don't answer to the High Lords do they?
They answer to the Emperor. I think the Captain of the Custodes actually IS a High Lord, isn't he?

>>49839831
Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes, yes. Though he's not part of the "core" high lords, which includes, for example, The Master of the Administratum, The Ecclesiarch of the Adeptus Ministorum and The Fabricator-General of the Adeptus Mechanicus. He instead belongs to the officials that fills the three remaining seats, along with Lord Commander of Segmentum Solar, The Abbess of the Adepta Sororitas and Lord High Admiral of the Imperial Navy.

>>49827648
Ho hum.
Blood Angels used to be OP cheese. Noobs bought them for their power to pwn without user input required. Now BA are bottom tier. Gotta migrate away from them to make a competitive army.

Oh look, custodes, I'm sure they won't be cheese to attract the disenfranchised.

>>49828690

For you.

I haven't seen a Banepost on /tv/ in ages. Is it dead at last?

>>49829148

Awaken my masters

>>49840436
Mods just delete them quickly

>>49829148
WAKE UP
GRAB A STONE AND MAKE A LITTLE MAKEUP

>>49828715
DSFARGEG