Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1132: No Such Edition

There was no edition that I wasn't just about to delete.

I most certainly did not see another edition.

Can someone post the universal monster jump?

Is someone going to make a new thread, or are we just going to sit nowhere and wait?

>>49798125
Craft dog talisman on a weapon, like a keyblade or gauntlet. Now weapon.

Would that work? could put it through SAO's permanent item thing too.

fuck im making a new build i think

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>>49804060
>New thread
y?
>>49804044

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>>49799100
(JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) #76
-Background: Jovial Joestar (900CP) -Neat little tattoo, POWER OF THE GLORIOUS SUN UPON MY FINGERTIPS.
-Calisthenics (Free) -Amazing balance! FABULOUS STYLES OF POSING. CLEARLY I AM AMAZING.
-Dynamic Entry (Free) -First impression makes a hell of a difference. With this, EVERY impression will be amazing.
-Joestar Secret Technique (Free) -When the going gets tough, the tough RUN LIKE A LITTLE BITCH. Seriously. Run.
-Dramatic Persona (Free) -I am so fucking fabulous and stylish that it is an undisputed fact by now.
-Fabulous Craftwork (800CP) -Oh my goodness the fabulous will reign.
-Hamon: Steady Breathing (Free) -The basic of the Ripple. Let it flow through me.
-Hamon: Solar Meditation (750CP) (Discount) -The sun is my friend, and it helps me.
-Hamon: Infusion (550CP) (Discount) -The sun shall empower what I have.
-Hamon: Ripple Mastery (150CP) (Discount) -Praise the fucking Sun. Let the sun be praised wholeheartedly.
-Red Stone of Aja (-50CP) (Discount) Oh you beautiful, beautiful Red Stone. I have plans for you.
-Arrowhead (-650CP) -I shall forge myself into a being of willpower. I will become strong. Then impart a Stand.
Arrow-granted Stand: Devil's Choir Requiem (???) -What. What the fuck are you.
-Conducting Oil (-700CP) -The incandescence will be disgusting.
-Destined Enemy (-400CP)
-Not-So-Fabulous (0CP)
-Tattoo: Remove it -As tempting as it is, I want to dictate my own tattoos.
Dice Rolls: Rise of Dio, 20 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

Guys? ...guys? Why are you looking at me with such disdain? Why do you act like I'm the person nobody likes? I swear I can be fab, really! ...I'm sure I can. I just... can't...

Now granted. This is one of the older times. Carriages and the works. So a gun that shoots fire and sun abilities are going to be something of a cheat mode here, even if vampires will constantly hunt me down because of this sun power I possess. ...but I can be fab. R-really...

>>49804101
This is definitely not a society called "/jc/", and if there was, they definitely would not meet in the thread that nobody is posting in right now.

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Jumpers, how do you typically treat androids, A.I, and other intelligent human-like machines?

>>49804158
Like people?

>>49804158
Exactly the same way as I treat people. I mean, I don't care if you run on hardware or wetware -- If you're intelligent and self-aware, you're a person.

>>49804158
Like the tin cans they are?

>>49804182
Shame on you, anon, shame on you

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>>49804158

>>49804131
maybe nobody is posting in it because there's nothing to post about
>>49804158
Like the tool they are. They're not people, they're ones and zeroes. That said, they're sentient and should be treated with respect. Just less irritating that way.

>>49804158
Remove kebot. Thinking machines are absolutely haram.

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So, since Gaunlet got like no feedback last time Imma post this here. Question for Gaunlet, what happens if I take Battle Doll or Rare Kind as a True Mibu or even a Bounty Hunter?

>>49804251
Does Tender Hands do anything besides not inflicting lethal wounds on the innocent? Is it at least a really good sword otherwise? It strikes me as a little underwhelming for 600, but maybe that's just me.

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>>49804158
About the same as baseline humans. From my point of view there's no meaningful difference except they usually have no soul and communication tends to be easier since they have no glands to let things like panic happen.

Also? Uplifting them's a bit of a gamble unless they're well-shackled.

>>49804158
Like people, obviously. If they can think and feel like a person, then they're a person.

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>if there are infinite parallel universes, there's an infinite chance that some version of you is actually on a chain right now
>you'll never get to meet them and show them that they're ultimately a figment of your imagination
>you'll never get to make an omnipotent being with infinite power have an existential crisis
Why even live?

>>49804158
Same way I treat all ayy lmaos.

>>49804158
Like people. Which is to say with thinly veiled apathy and a desire to avoid interaction with if I can.

>>49804300
Oh, don't think like that. Infinite universes don't necessarily have to include all possible universes. There are infinite numbers 1 and 2, for example, but none of them are 3. So in all likelihood no version of you anywhere in the multiverse is ever going to go on a Jumpchain adventure. It's just as pointless for every infinitely-recursive iteration! So cheer up, anon.

Are there any perks that would help me train up a local to level 100 in the Overlord jump?

What's ayy lmao?

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>>49804158
Carefully.

>>49804450
Pretty much every training and hardcap-removing perk.

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Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>49804367
>So in all likelihood no version of you anywhere in the multiverse is ever going to go on a Jumpchain adventure

We'll just have to kick logic to the curb and make the impossible happen, anon. It's got about as much chance of happening as every dollar bill I own suddenly transmuting into thousands of 24 carat diamonds if I roll higher than a 15

come on baby papa needs a new ferrari

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>>49804466

Could I let my companions use the elder wand if I buy it?

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>49804512
You call that a roll, this is a roll!

>>49804158
Roll to seduce.

[roll]1d100[/roll]

Is it morally wrong to eat the soul of someone who's definitely going to hell?

>>49804450
IIRC, the jump doesn't start until you get separated from the game logic and get dumped into the 'new world'. And even then, most of the benefits the level 100 perk offers comes from equipment and the like, not from actually being level 100.

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>>49804590
you are like a little babby
watch this

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>>49804251
It looks pretty good! Mostly I think it could benefit from some clarification in some parts.

>A Dragon with Two Heads

"Gentle" seems to have been misspelled as "Gentil"

>Miracle of Effort/Spectre

Not familiar with theseries but personally the latter seems more worthwhile to me than the former, maybe swap prices?

>Indara

Just curious-what's the rationale behind the Iron Strings being an item but billed as a perk? Seen Dirge do that a few times too.

>Satori
>The Power of Faith

In settings where enlightenment is quantifiable, how much enlightenment is it worth? For example, how high would it raise your Essence rating in Exalted, or in Journey of the West how many stages would it net you?

>Energy Emissions

Would spiritual energy enhance the Shaman powers?

>Rare Kind

What does the Antibody of Death do?

>Mark of a Crimson King

Exhausting misspelled as "excausting"

>Shards of a Star

To clarify, how much can you customise your Kenyo form and what powers do they gain?

>Tender Hands

...

...am I reading this correctly, that misusing this sword will get you HUGGED without consent?

>A Dagger

What is the intrinsic value, or is it the savestate function?

>Shaman scrolls

What supernatural powers are valid for research using this?

>>49804300
>I will never give ASA the motivation to try and plan his own author's murder

I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of relieved.

>>49804529
Only if they buy you dinner first, and only if they use plenty of lube.

>>49804656
Well, that or if they say "Experlliarmus" while pointing another wand at you.

But that's practically the same thing, right?

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>>49804637
>Seen Dirge do that a few times too.
Have I? I don't really remember having that many item production perks that are tied to a specific item. I think I've probably done the reverse more with items that have more functions as perks...

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>>49804104
Actually I realized I'm 100CP off there. So I guess I'm buying the Map too. But I'm sorry. I swear I can be fabulous. I swear, the very next setting will have so much fabulous it'll b-

(Sekirei) #77
-Background: MBI (Free) -Why am I here. Why am I working for the baddies.
-Bro-Tier (900CP) -I am okay with being the sane one in this world.
-Winging Ceremony (800CP) -I love this. I just love knowing how far people can go.
-Big Brother (Free) -None escape my eyes.
-Sakurako Style (600CP) -Oh like I WASN'T gonna take this. Amazing body GOOOOO.
-Adjuster (500CP) (Discount) -Oh. My. word. It's time for some surgery. My splicing prowess just got BETTER.
-Reverse Engineering (300CP) (Discount) -Ha HAAAA! Time for science!
-MBI Card (250CP) -I'm already MBI! Fuck them!
-Eyes and Ears (Free) -Nothing wrong with helping keep track of things.
-Surgery Suite (200CP) (Discount) -The Doctor is in.
-Front Row Seats (0CP) -If I'm going to be watching this stuff unfold, I'm going to be comfy doing it.
Dice Rolls: Just Outside City Limits, 29 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

>oh wow so there's alien technology here with plenty of strange stuff!
>what do you suppose we should do?
>Oh let's monopolize it then turn a bunch of the alien species into harem pokegirls that get carried around and made to serve the whims of cocksure idiots and throw them all into a death match!
>this surely isn't demeaning or abhorrent in any way!

First, I am going to find Miya and strike an alliance.

Then, pic related.

This entire fucking corporation is going to burn faster and brighter than Umbrella if I can help it. It's all going to burn to the fucking ground and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me.

>>49804618
>And even then, most of the benefits the level 100 perk offers comes from equipment and the like, not from actually being level 100.
That is hilariously inaccurate.

Level 100 characters have a solid DR that lets them just walk through mooks unharmed, regardless of whether said mooks are swinging swords or slinging spells. Level 100 gives you tons more mana and health than regular shmoes. Level 100 also, when coupled with your class of choice, gives you access to any number of choice skills that help you fill one of the traditional MMO roles.

Yeah, the gear for 100s is nice, no doubt there, but to say that the bulk of the benefits come from that is pants on head retarded.

>>49804450
Enhanced Mastery from Worm is good for quick learning. Senran Kagura and Naruto both have perks that make you love training. Elona and Obsidian Tower both have perks that remove the hard cap on skills / levels.

So do that and then be willing to grind.

Oh, OOTS also has a nice perk that lets you find level appropriate fights. Check that out too.

>>49804656
Funny, I'm planning to use Cheat Mode to provide Elder Wands for my children, witch/wizard companion's children, or any others whom I find a way to give HP magic to.

>>49804683
That works too, since wands can be used sub optimally without winning their loyalty.

>>49804712
I thought for a moment that the umbrella was clipping through her head.

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>>49804712
Yep! Most standout example was FF12, but I think there's stuff like that in Type=0 and Revenant Wings

>>49804736
Honestly, I barely remember so I'll concede the point. My only clear memory is that the perk provides amulets and stuff with various resistances.

How much of a trap is it to choose either Gem or Half-Gem in Steven Universe?

>>49804796
No.

>>49804736
I was thinking more for training other people rather than meself

>>49804593
Yes, you should be finding a way to keep souls trapped in the mortal world or diverting them to another afterlife instead. Or just conquering hell to make it a better place.

>>49804796
Well other than the whole "magic gem weakspot" thing I don't see how it's a trap at all.

>>49804808
That's a little harder. The closest thing I can think of would be the Washu perk from Tenchi that boosts your ability to teach, your students to learn from you, and keeps both you and your students going without sleep.

Now it's not intended for out and out grinding, so you could probably work someone to death that way if you weren't careful. But that's just my reading of it. Check it out for yourself if you want to be certain.

>>49804796
I don't think it's that much of a trap.

Gem might be a trap if you're the type who's concerned that having a huge amount of memories dumped into your head would mess you up, but Half-Gem doesn't have this problem. Without taking out of jump perks into consideration, each of them have much better chance than drop-in of surviving being on the front lines of the plot.

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>>49804766
Oh right...those. I only remembered them when you brought it up. I kind of phased those out after those jumps though, thinking back on it. This was probably around the time when perks were more isolated feats in some sense of the word.

>>49804761
She's so cute guuhhhhh

>>49804158
Like people

>>49804724
>turn a bunch of the alien species into harem pokegirl
preeeetty sure that bit comes naturally to Sekirei

>>49804796
not a trap at all,although if you're Gem background history is more than 10 X as long as your history It might be bordering on Ego death sends everything you are is outweighed by the massive amount of Gem memories.

>>49804833
>>49804853
How would "poofing", cracking, shattering and/or corruption work with durability perks and/or HP Bar perks?

>>49804874
I suppose a gemshot would=critical hit?

>>49804853
The gem weakpoint is the biggest problem really.

>>49804874
Not the maker, but my assumption is that your core will never be weaker than what your weakest point would otherwise be, and the core itself benefits from all relevant perks.

>>49804901
Easily mitigated by shapeshifting or using Final Form.

>>49804874
>>poofing

a force construct You used to interact with the world has Is sufficiently Damaged that you need to manifest another one,this can take a while if you're trying to make a good one

>cracking, shattering

this is where the HP bar,regeneration and durability perks would come in. Since this is your actual body.


>>and/or corruption

corruption from things other than Damage to your gemis Explicitly Not a type of physical damage and you would need anticorruption perks

work with durability perks and/or HP Bar perks?

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>>49804820
>keep souls trapped in the mortal world

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>>49804867
>preeeetty sure that bit comes naturally to Sekirei
Oh look, even more reason to burn the company to the ground for the CEO's retarded plans.

>>49804867
That wasn't their intention at all, did like anybody actually read the ending to Sekirei?

>>49804820
What is the best way to create an afterlife? Don't say that thing from Actraiser, unless you've got a suggestion for upgrading it, because the number of souls it can hold is nowhere near enough for global levels.

>>49804980
I haven't.

Could you sum it up for me please, if you're not busy?

>>49804949
>burn the company to the ground for the CEO's retarded plans.
Alice in HR only has 2 more years before retirement. At her age there's no way she'll be able to find as good a job as the one she has at MBI. Now she won't be able to retire.

Who's the monster?

>>49804981
Asura's Wrath divine perks, powered up to absurdity.

>>49804981
>What is the best way to create an afterlife? Don't say that thing from Actraiser, unless you've got a suggestion for upgrading it, because the number of souls it can hold is nowhere near enough for global levels.

Step one make a dimension
step two . Lord of light and Rick and Morty Technology to move the souls into the dimension.

>>49804981
...The Actraiser palaces have a capacity of a trillion souls each. Unless you're in a galactic scale sci fi setting, you're fine.

But Vampire Diaries has a spell that does exactly that, if you're willing to use that jump.

>>49804992
Don't forget about Bob, the guy who works the security turn-stile on the first floor. He's semi-retired, but he can't afford to send his granddaughter through college on his retirement alone. His MBI salary is paying for her medical school.

>>49805032
>>49804992
And, of course, it's canon that MIB has become an incredibly large and influential company, responsible for employing huge numbers of people and providing technological innovations in nearly every field.

Destroying them would pretty much be the same as destroying Japan's, and much of the world's economy.

>>49805003
Wait, a trillion? I thought it was 999^3.
>Looks and sees that it's 999^4
Huh, that does change things.

>>49804949
The CEO basically finds these warrior women who have an inbuilt desire to find a master who has effectively total control over them after their first kiss, apparently his first thought was "lets turn this into a combat sport that encourages assholes to force themselves on as many of the girls as possible".

>>49805049
Not to mention all the charities that MBI is funding. Obviously they're only in it for the tax breaks, but that doesn't matter to the orphans that need prosthetics and organ transplants.

>>49804992
>>49805032
>>49805049
>>49805067
>>49805057
Alright, change of plans.

CEO himself dies.

>>49805083
Now you're thinking with your brain!

>>49804990
I'm trying to find a site that actually has a synopsis but I can't, and it's been a while since I read the ending or the full series in sequence, but basically the "Big Bad" is enacting the plan because that's apparently the only way to break the cycle and have Sekirei be accepted into society, except the ending itself only vaguely touches upon that - but it went from a sort of "aliens are for waifu" feeling to "we need drastic changes in order for humans to accept that aliens can be a part of society as well" feeling.

Basically it waited until the last moments before it tried to become really serious.

>>49805050
Google says that, in the real world, 151,600 people die every day. Multiply that by 365*10, to represent the average jump length, gives you 553,340,000. 999^4/553340000= just under 1,800.

So yes, that is probably enough storage capacity to last you a while.

>>49805083
Much better. He's a complete psychopathic madman. Without him the company can only grow for the better.

>>49805089
Way to sound patronizing, ass.

>>49805114
The stocks will tank immediately after his death, but it's not necessarily death for the company.

>>49805110
But the souls don't stay with you between jumps, do they? You only need enough for the current world.

>>49805127
Considering how unbelievably far ahead they are compared to everyone else given they have access to the alien ship and all it's tech? I really doubt it'll do much harm in the long run. They're too advanced compared to competitors for Minaka's death to destroy the company.

>>49805083
Despite the stupidity of his plan everything ends up fine for everyone in the end, even the bad matches end up working out mostly well. The defeated sekirei are separated from their masters and the abused ones either stay separated after it's all over or get relationship counseling.

>>49805140
Which is why the national army has undermined them already, and was waiting for the moment to mobilize, which does happen. The reason for this being that the national army sees the Sekirei as invaders, and MBI is essentially holding them at bay.

>>49805146
So what you're saying is that a competent, sane and moral person could accomplish all that without all the abuse happening in the first place? Good idea anon, let's put someone sane, competent and moral at the helm instead of Minaka.

>>49805156
And the Sekirei, as they did in the past, can easily drive them off. Why would Minaka dying stop this? MBI supports them all, why wouldn't they offer protection back? Especially now that they aren't being forced into a death game to get that support.

>>49805118
You don't think "I'm going to destroy an entire company, which is responsible for pretty much immeasurable good in the world, because it would be a cool way to punish the one guy actually responsible for what pissed me off here" deserves a little bit of patronizing?

>>49805178
Patronizing? No.

Short-sighted? Yes.

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>>49804930
I do, though I may be a little biased...

Speaking of, I'm in a bit of a hang-up related to the "actually becoming a Ghost" bit. I've decided to make it:
1) a general perk (for variety)

...and

2) a capstone-booster (because that's literally what becoming a ghost is in this setting). Pic-related.

Becoming a ghost has by itself all sorts of nifty benefits such as LoS teleportation, intangibility, invisibility, among other things. I'd like to include as few arbitrary restrictions as possible, and to that end I'd like to make it a limited 1-up perk as well (because tell me that's not what a ghost is). The thing is, I don't want to make it a "must-buy" in comparison to everything else. It's currently sitting at 600 CP for a capstone-boost and all the listed benefits (except possibly the 1-up).

Should I:

A) Add the 1-up and increase the cost to 800+ CP.

B) Add the 1-up and retain the current cost.

C) Not add the 1-up and adjust the cost.

D) Not add the 1-up and retain the cost.

Ideas are welcome.

>>49805191
Please read that post again.

>>49805159
But Minaka is fun and he doesn't do any permanent damage.

What are you going to do, set up scouts to find sensible well adjusted people and let the sekerei pick from a bunch of pleasant supportive people without any unnecessary conflict.

That wouldn't be very fun at all.

>>49805208
No.

>>49805139
No, the souls come with. And before anyone starts, it's not the same thing as 999^4 pods because the only way to get souls out is to reincarnate them through the Temple of the Holy Spirit item, and that strips the soul of its memories and turns them into a regular human. So there's no effective benefit to shoving powerful characters into heaven short of rewarding them with an eternity in paradise.

>>49805205
Don't add the 1 up. That's just silly. Just have it be an alt form you can switch between instead of needing you to die each jump to access it. It's fine at 600 if it offers so many powers and also boosts other stuff. Most capstone boosters are only 500 and don't offer much beyond the booster, usually a fairly minor power.

>>49805178
I think you could have done it without coming off as an asshole who wanted to make someone look like a first grader. Yes she could have thought it out better, but she isn't trying to rub people's faces in piles of crap with a smile like you come off as.

>>49805241
I really don't see your point here. Yes, I could have been not-a-dick. I chose to be a dick. So what?

>>49805205
Is that Wednesday Addams?

>>49805205
I suggest C): Not adding the 1-up and adjusting the cost.
This may not actually be good advice.

>>49805169
They can't, or rather, they won't. The only reason they succeeded in the past was because the humans didn't see them as an immediate threat. As the series goes on this changes mostly for the worst until the army is mobilized. Even that was mostly baiting to try and draw out retaliation from the Sekirei so the government would have a legitimate reason to nuke them to high hell.

The government agrees that Minaka should die, since this benefits their plans for exploitation or eradication of the aliens. MBI itself is just Minaka, since everybody else is a paid employee. They pretty much give up the moment the government tells them to.

>>49805259
No, but yes. It's not literally Wednesday Addams, but it's the same damn character. They don't even try to hide it. She's the main villain. Real face of terror, isn't she?

>>49805254
Just making it clear how much of a salt bucket you are.

>>49805284
Whatever you need to get off, friend. We're here for you.

>>49805296
I'm not. I'm mostly watching Top Chef reruns.

>>49805049
The greatest mistake of capitalism was in letting megacorps worm their way into necessity.

Now all of society needs to be shattered apart to root them out.

>>49805327
>>49805284
>>49805241
>this much feeding

Are you fucking serious? Stop posting, you fucking retard.

>>49805146
>The defeated sekirei are separated from their masters
But as long as their master wasn't one of the abusive ones, isn't that really bad for them?

>>49805221
Is that a ruling Digger made? I don't see anything in the jump about restricting you from using resurrection spells to bring them out.

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>>49804796
Gems deal with a lot of shit, and take a lot of damage. Garnet gets hit by falling cars, and Jasper tanks a spaceship exploding and crashing on top of her to basically no effect.
So regardless of what people say, they're not super weak or anything. Their durability seems to vary based on their initial creation conditions (Jasper, a "Perfect Quartz"), and how much effort they put into forming their body (Amethyst gets poofed really easily when she's fucking around in that one episode). Given the variance, your durability perks would also definitely work with your body, at least.

So the big issue is just the gemstone, which, in the jump, almost nobody ever targets the gemstone (and when they do, it's considered to be this huge, unforgivable deal), and the series isn't so much about constant battle as it is crying and songs, so it's not a huge deal anyway.
I also think you could make about as much a case for the gem being effected by durability perks as you could a heart or brain, since that's effectively what they are.
Plus it's an alt-form, which means you can just change out of it.
I mean... honestly, I never hear about people spending a lot of time in an altform anyway. Once you're done with SU, you will probably never use that altform again. And if you didn't go gem, then you won't even get an altform?

I dunno. I think people who scream "trap" are just paranoid and not aware of their options.
But I have an exploding magitek heart, so what do I know.

>>49805270
>Nuke them
Rather hard given most live in high populated cities. I don't know about you, but I'd say that no military is going to drop nukes on tens of millions of their own citizens to kill a few dozen beings.

The Sekirei seemed to handle pretty significant military threat before, a fleet of battleships hardly seems like an underestimation.

You're also forgetting what effects the Jumper can have to change things. This isn't an argument about him just dying in universe, but about what Red is doing in it. Similarly, how defenceless do you really think the Sekirei are? The hacker one alone could cause untold chaos, disruptions and effectively neuter so much of any military's force. Or the strongest like Miya and Karasuba who are effectively so strong that nothing short of nukes would really be enough to put them down and as said before, no sane nation is going to nuke millions of it's own citizens.

>>49805226
>>49805268
Okay, thanks. I think I'll go with Option D for now, until people have a more complete comparison. Next time I check in will be with a WIP, plus or minus a couple items.

>>49805259
This anon pretty much hits it right on the nail: >>49805283

>>49805342
They all got back together at the end, except the abusive ones who either stayed separated or got relationship "counseling" under the watch of the Homura.

>>49805337
>Stop posting, you fucking retard.
Like said, I'm mainly watching Top Chef. A team just got sent home for under-done venison.

It was savage.

>>49805362
But... you just said the defeated ones get separated?

>>49805369
Well, technically someone who has been de-feeted has suffered a form of separation.

>>49805351
Did you read the last set of chapters at all? They're nowhere near any populated city. The military also seems to do pretty well against them by the way, especially with how easy to kill the Ashikabi are. If we're going to mention jumper influence, we might as well say to use time travel magic and go back to rewrite history so the initial Sekirei Plan didn't occur.

>>49805345
Pretty sure he did. I'm too lazy to look it up right now, though, so if you want to ignore me I'm fine with that. I don't mean that in a passive aggressive sense, I really mean that since I'm not providing citations backing me up you should feel free to ignore anything I say if it makes for a more interesting Jumpchain experience for you. Hell, even if I was providing citations you could ignore me. It's your game, anon, you should be able to do what you have fun doing.

>>49805377
What

>>49805369
And then they got back together after the girl who wanted all the sekerei to be happy together with their masters won the game.

>>49804981
D&D deities, at least in 3rd edition, automatically get a divine realm that they can hang out in and their worshippers can go to when the latter die.

Age Of Ice has Bradeline's Well, a bleak grey realm where souls can hide from the gods. Sounds like a fixer-upper to me.

>>49805397
It's the key weakness of each Sekirei, the space right above their ankles.

>>49805413
No it's not.

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In light of all this Chinese animu, can we drop the discussion and talk about Duwang instead? Because it's the most beautiful place in the world.

>>49805400
Oh, I thought you meant in the ending, they were all separated from their masters. I know that Sekirei combat results in the losers going into some hibernation mode and getting carted away (presumably to get stored somewhere.)

>>49805389
And I'm saying if they stay within the cities, that neutralises so much of what the military can do. I don't see how the military doing well against them in the manga changes the level of destruction the Sekirei could visit on them if they used their powers in a more intelligent way.

No, we might as well not, because we are talking about one specific jumper in this case. Red. And even if it was just someone on their first jump, they would still be able to point out how few Sekirei use their powers to their full advantage. Many of the Sekirei could easily sneak in and kill any leaders of the forces after them, repeatedly even, whilst their Ashikabi wait in some bunker protected by other Sekirei.

Look, it's really not that hard once you have someone who has outside knowledge of the series and can point out the dumb shit and get people working together. With Minaka dead, the plan at best put on hold and the military chomping at the bit to experiment on them, why would they not work together against the threat?

>>49805389
Man, they seemed to be in Tokyo or something to me. You know we're talking about it in a jumpchain perspective right? Not endof series?

>>49805403
Can you even become a D&D deity in-chain?

>>49805003
The spell in Vampire Diaries doesn't create a proper afterlife, it prevent souls from going to one; instead trapping them in a spiritual prison coterminous with the material Earth.

>>49805493
Yes. The FR version just ends your chain. I don't remember any rules against it in Dragonlance, where one of the main characters managed it.

>>49805493
Sure, there's a couple ways in jump depending on what setting and a good few more if you're using out of jump perks and the like.

>>49805442
But what does it mean?

>>49805456
>>49805462
We're talking about Red. Red killed Minaka. Disregard Sekirei. Story concluded. Done.

>>49805493
Probably, but it would almost certainly be a trap. Gods in DnD die if they don't have enough worshipers. You'd have to pick up that cult from that dinosaur kaiju fighting game jump and your life would be dependent on them forever.

>>49805532
Piss off man, people are having a discussion. You're just shitposting to try and shut down one of the rare mostly polite conversations here for some reason. Can you not?

>>49805509
Aren't DL deities like super weak? So much so that a <20-level Wizard could curbstomp the entire pantheon?

>>49805511
Yeah, but then don't you have to find new worshippers? D&D Deification isn't fiat-backed.

>>49805538
>Gods in DnD die
No, they don't. That's one of several options but it's in no way the one single canon.

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>>49805397
>>49805413

>>49805538
>>49805553
That's actually just an FR thing. Ao changed how gods function in Aber-Torel because he thought doing this would force the gods to be attentive to their worshipers.

They instead just built the Wall of the Faithless and threatened mortals into compliance.

>>49805548
One of them threw a mountain at a city so hard that it turned the surrounding area turned into a hellscape and caused world wide destruction.

>>49805548
Only if you take the interpretation that Divine Ranks require worship. Which as anon above mentions, is only one of several possible views. It's just as likely, if not more to be totally honest, that divine ranks are just some inherent thing you don't need worship for. Or perhaps something else entirely. I can go dig up the handbook for that which has the rest if you'd like.

>>49805548
Not him, but I'm honestly not sure. Mainly because Raistlin sometimes came across to me as Archaon before I knew who Archaon was at time i.e. this disproportionately plot device upgrade-prone guy whose edginess pays off big time right before he fucks up.

Well, inevitably will fuck up in Archaon's case.

>>49805557
Ah, makes more sense then if it's setting specific. I was thinking back to the Deities and Demigods book. Well, that and a bit of logic for how some of the DnD basic gods manage to retain their power levels. Sure, Pelor might be widely worshipped but how are some of the more esoteric and/or evil gods getting just as much worship as to equal him?

>>49805547
The posts up that entire chain are of some anon insisting that Sekirei will be nuked while other anons are trying to talk about Red. How is that even relevant? It's just one guy rambling on about crazy shit that no one cares about.

>>49805591
Anon, I'm not even involved and I can tell you're full of shit on a quick skim.

>>49805577
Actually, Raistlin won his war against the gods. The only problem was the war destroyed everything but him and he couldn't create anything. So he was left with this Ouroboros existence. Once he finds that out he throws his fight with Takhisis and dies in the process. Well, sorta dies. He is tortured like a sonofabitch in the Abyss, but that's beside the point.

>>49805591
There can be two simultaneous conversations about related topics anon.

>>49805555
Well

>>49805548
No, Raistlin took advantage of a lot of power-ups just to beat Tiamat. He was definitely Epic when he fought her, and when he then fought the rest of the pantheon he'd taken her power.

>>49805620
No there can't, that's impossible.

If you deny reality hard enough, maybe it'll go away.

>>49805651
How do I get it to come back. It isn't coming back.

>>49805586
Evil races.

Which reminds me. You know that whole "Orc baby" dilemma people used to talk about? Wizards decided to address that. By making it so that each orc has their god whisper into their ears 24/7 to rape and kill, even as babies. So you can slaughter babies to your heart's content, Wizard's approved.

>>49805647
Just looking at the stats there's no way Raistlin could have taken Takhisis and all her minions in a fight. It was pure story. Like other events in the DL world it only works if you get that the TT game and the novels are kinda separate products.

>>49805615
Yeah, that's why I compared him to Archaon. Half as long, twice as bright or something like that.

Which, going back to my main point, I just don't know if it's supposed to be a sign of

a) Dragonlance wizards being more powerful than Dragonlance gods, or

b) Raistlin just being an overpowered shitlord Taylor Hebertmancer

>>49805677
See: >>49805673

Dragonlance wizards are bog standard D&D wizards, and DL gods are some of the most powerful in D&D. They're legit creation gods. If you try to rollplay that fight it doesn't work.

>>49805668
>Wizards decided to address that

...but. But that's the opposite of addressing that. Now instead of being INNATELY evil, orcs are just byproducts of their own toxic environment.

If anything this sounds like a motivation to free orcs from their oppresive gods, and redeem them to the point where you can have orc paladins.

>>49805668
Eh, the evil races thing always felt like a stretch to me. A lot of them aren't exactly intelligent or populous nor very willing to worship another, at least not on the level of the big races that worship the good gods. Sure, Orcs and Gruumsh kinda make sense but then you have the opposite issue. How are the elves, the ones renowned for long lives and not many kiddies, populous enough to give Corellon enough worship to equal or even outpower Gruumsh?

Orc Baby? Is this some dumb morality thing Wizards got itself into again? The alignment system/Paladin thing alone is bad enough but what's this new stuff?

>>49805692
Sure, which just raises the telling question of where TT mechanics or story elements take precedence in jumps. I've been under the impression the traditional answer here is to fanwank something, but I'm just saying from the perspective of someone visiting Dragonlance it appears that sometimes wizards don't make sense more than usual.

>>49805698
The point is that you can't stop orcs from being evil without killing the god. So killing that baby is the right thing to do, because it's now going to grow up evil regardless.

I did forget to mention that it also goes into detail how orcs are programmed, physically, to get off on brutality and not helping each other etc like most races. So their brains are against good too.

>>49805724
And yet, orc paladins can exist.

>>49805719
Shouldn't fluff usually take precedence? Gameplay mechanics are just limitations on something because you need some way to translate it into a playable form.

>>49805719
I'm pretty sure the DL jump lets you make that choice of whether its a novel or a TT jump. I mean, you can buy levels buy you don't have to buy levels so to me that says it can go either way. I imagine you just have to choose which it is.

>>49805734
DO NOT DOUBT THE MIGHTY WIZARD'S WIDSOM. ORCS ARE EVIL. EEEEEEEVIL.

They're like the Anti-Blizzard, holy shit

>>49805734
Yes, but it requires an orc who doesn't listen to the constant droning noise in his head and who doesn't mind being unhappy and unfulfilled his entire life because he can only feel good murdering and raping.

>>49805754
Except that the orc paladin doesn't have to have that constant droning noise in their head, because they have their own higher power telling the evil god to sod right off.

>>49805780
It'd be more like having a shoulder devil and shoulder angel at each other's throat 24/7

>>49805780
Don't later editions allow for evil paladins? Couldn't it be an evil orc paladin?

>>49805793
And they would still need to ignore it long enough to become a paladin in the first place.

>>49805668
Just for clarification, did in-setting Wizards use magic to do that to justify killing orcs, or did you mean the company Wizard of the Coast wrote that lore?

>>49805793
Now I have this mental image of an orc paladin getting on with his life as a farmer while two shoulder gods argue in the background.

"Yeah, after a while I just learnt to tune the two of them out. That'll be six copper for the hay and a silver for the pig."

>>49805737
>>49805748
Oh, alright then.

I guess the first anon was right, in a sense.

>>49805724
>you can't stop orcs from being evil without killing the god

No, THAT'S the point-that the long term goal of any paladin organization, taking this situation to its' logical conclusion, is to go full Asura's Wrath and kill the shit out of all the evil deities.

>programmed, physically

And make sure one of your Epic Level party members can do whatever the D&D equivalent of genetic engineering is.

>>49805809
The company.

>>49805805
Something like that, I think they were called blackguards or anti-paladins or something.

>>49805826
If you're at the point where you're altering their minds and thoughts to suit you, you're just killing them another way and prancing and preening about it.

>>49805841
>removing the constant biological urge to maim and rape from intruding on their thoughts is killing them

...

>>49805841
Oh, it's you. The anon who gets super butthurt about identity death.

But no, tha's not what I meant-the person I was responding to seemed to imply it's more a physiological thing so I was thinking like more giving a werewolf an amulet to stop them from killing everyone in werewolf form, but permanently.

>>49805874
Like I said-there's someone in these threads who gets ridiculously offended at the slightest mention of mental tampering. I bet he was a problem child who got badtouched by his psychiatrist when he was younger.

>>49805874
So I guess they're living embodiments of rape and maim according to that line of thought.

>>49805894
And I guess you're illiterate considering how spectacularly you've managed to misread >>49805668

>>49805874
Personality death is a thing, man.

>>49805877
Helmets of alignment reversal already exist. It's the same deal though, since alignment is tied up in your beliefs and personality.

>>49805885
Do you always think up odd sexual scenarios involving people you disagree with? Now that sounds like a psychological issue.

>>49805894
It's not a line of thought I agree with, which is why I was pointing out the problem with it - free will means we're more than just the sum of our biological urges, and even a shoulder devil is still a devil on our shoulder, not the sum of us.

>>49805920
Wait when did I read that. Shit I'm time traveling again. Sorry.

>>49805939
Your shoulder devil is your god who designed you to be that way and made it so your brain naturally only receives pleasure from brutality and cruelty, and nothing from being nice.

>>49805924
Yeah, except that's about as much a part of your personality as caffeine addiction is, anon.

By that line of thought, removing a shock collar from someone is personality death.

>>49805924
Not the anon you're replying to, but given how people in thread freak out about sex I do have some pet theories about our user base. Yeah, I get that we don't want to be CYOA gen but by the same token there are people in thread that get really, really, vehement about their dislike of sexual matters.

Makes you wonder.

>>49805924
Do you always butt in to scream at people based on a misunderstanding that affects your sensibilities when your opinion isn't wanted? If so, it sounds like you belong on Tumblr.

Also, emphasis on permanent rather than something that can be undone by a dark god just taking off a helmet.

>>49805939
Every time that anon has come up he has never seen a problem with his line of thought. You're talking to a wall.

>>49805947
It's alright, I mixed you up with someone infinitely more annoying so I'm sorry for that too.

>>49805924
Yes, personality death is a thing, but removing a biological urge is not the same as rewriting someone's personality wholesale like a Helm Of Opposite Alignment does.

>>49805950
Then my god can fuck right off, I'm converting to Hestia.

>>49805924
Read >>49805939 idiot. It's not "identity death" for the same reason having the self restraint to not beat people up whenever you want is a thing even though people can still feel angry.

Jump 07: League of Legends - I am going to be drowning in salt.
Origin: Scholar [900] - Brains over brawn, right?
Nationality: Piltover
Role: Fighter
Race: Human
Perks:
Educated - I have a degree in bullshit.
Fast Learner - I'm just turning into an instant expert at this point. [800]
Revered Inventor - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. [600]
I Know Jokes - A sense of humor is an ultimate weapon.
Riposte - Deflected! [300]
Hextech [500] - Oh yeah. I got gear.

Items:
Pet Poros - OH MY GOD THEY'RE SO ADORABLE. [50]
Refillable Potion - Sweet. [0]
Doran's Ring - Doran was a nerd.

Artifacts:
Blade of the Ruined King [200AP] - You. I like you.
Ruby Sightstone [0AP] - Why not.

Companion:
Star Dragon Hatchling [100] - OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO CUTE.

Drawbacks:
But Graves Can't Have a Cigar [600] - Well, that's annoying, but at least I have...
Better Nerf the Jumper [900] - BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT.

>Welcome to the Jumper champion spotlight. Featuring Anon, the Gamemaster.
>Anon is a high-damage tanky bruiser. He uses a high-frequency katana and journeys across the multiverse for adventure.
>His passive is Nerd Rage, with it, he can-
>I WANT A [CENSORED] REFUND YOU [CENSORED] STUPID [CENSORED]

>>49805924
>odd sexual scenarios

How long have you been here? Whatever the rationale that's a major go-to when there's only so many ways to call someone a retard.

>>49805999
>Hestia
In D&D terms, that'd probably be along the lines of Yondalla, the patron goddess of halflings; her portfolios include Love, Community and Harmony. Heh, that'd certainly be a middle finger to a god of brutality and cruelty.

>>49805960
It's more like removing the pesky part of your brain responsible for processing fear, as an example. That'll change who you are.

>>49805971
>butt in
I was the one to bring the changes to orcs by Wizard's up in the first place. At no point did I butt in, I started the conversation.

>>49805999
>>49806011
But how much of who they are arises from that? If it's enough to change them to good, then is it any different than the helm? If it's not enough to do so, then what did you accomplish? Those orcs are still murdering barbarians because they learned to enjoy it.

>>49806054
He didn't even call me a retard. He accused me of being molested, and invented a scenario for it. It's like his demented way of flirting.

Rolled 6 (1d8)

>>49806036
1. Generic Magical Girl
2. Jojo
3. Ring of Red
4. Final Fantasy 6
5. Career Model
6. Charles Barkley
7. Megaman Classic
8. Auralnauts
9. Order of the Stick
10. Borderlands

>>49806074
It's different from the Helm because you're not forcibly rewriting them to be Good, you're giving them the opportunity to decide for themselves whether to be Good or Evil.

>>49806092
Charles Barkley???

>>49806092
>6. Charles Barkley
Slam that jam, son. Slam that jam.

>>49806092
Your dice is two faces short.

>>49806098
But that won't accomplish anything for the orcs who are already adults. As I said, they've grown to enjoy it. They won't stop enjoying it unless you make them.

>>49806126
Anon, if life was that easy, we wouldn't be praying to gods.

>74)Captain N The Game Master
>Videoland Native

>By the Pixel
>Warp Zone Wazoo
>Jumper the Final Boss

>Health Meter
>J-tank

>The J Team(Villain, Always Hiring, Jumper the >Final Boss, Eggplant Wand, Magic Mirror)
>Aradia, Kanaya, Porrim, Terezi, Vriska, Aranea, Feferi, Meenah

>A Time of Heroes
>Verbal Tickus
>Disco Isn't Dead Yet
>Nintendo Hard
>The Console War

Mother Brain was in for a surprise when one of the people from Videoland snuck onto her ship only for eight of her lieutenants to immediately turn on her. That wrapped up quickly, so I can commandeer her minions and repurpose them into peace keeping force while I work on negotiating peace between Videoland and Genesis.

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>49806122
>>49806092
Whoops. Force of habit is a powerful thing. Lemme try again.

>mfw if it lands on Charles Barkley again.

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Besides the basic survival package of durability/regen/speed, what are some good things to pick up early on?

>>49806149
Stop Kefka ASAP.

>>49806074
Look, the problem with you is that you're trying to wax philosophical about nature vs. nurture.

/IN A SETTING WHICH CANONICALLY HAS EVIL GODS DOING BAD SHIT/

There is a malevolent, intelligence force that induces this behavior. If you're sociopathic enough to think doing anything about it is as bad as killing, then this conversation is stupid and I feel stupid for bothering to respond to you.

>>49806122
not if it's a d10.

Jumpers! We haven't hung out with Talyn for a while. What are some good space Jumps (already done Star Trek, Star Wars, Bab5, Farscape, or BSG).

>>49806157
Learning/Intelligence buffs are always a good idea.

>>49806149
[tangible dissapointment]

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How powerful is you're waifu?

>>49806176
Forgotten Realms

>>49806171
He does whisper to them to do it, but their brains are also naturally designed for it. Just pointing that out, you're also having to alter their brains and not just get their god to shut up.

>>49806187
Not very.

>>49806187
I am my waifu.

>>49806187
Well, beyond a castle full of maids, my chain simply isn't long enough have one yet.

I could always say that I got in on with zelda in minish cap, but link and zelda NEVER seem to get together.

So no waifu for me. Yet.

And on that note, i feel like writing. Can I get some tosses?

>>49806157
Mental protections. Being a prisoner in your own body while it does the villain's bidding? Even if you don't get told to jump into the acid vat, you're probably watching as your body pushes someone else into the acid vat.

>>49806176
>>49806230
Captain Harlock

>>49806207
...right.

Okay, this is the part where I say that doing anything about the "naturally designed for it" and "alter their brains" part is more like giving a kid with hormone imbalances meds, and far, far better than murdering them all. Especially given said natural proclivities are being worsened, and there's been no opportunity to see an orc fight against his nature.

And the part where you disagree, and claim that no, it's apparently like killing them for some stupid reason.

For the sake of brevity, can we just pretend we've spent another hundred threads insulting each others' personality, manhood, posting history and right to live until we've silently decided to agree to disagree?

>>49806237
What about non-mental protections? Is there anything in-chain that protects against direct body control a la Regent (Worm) or telekinesis? Besides having better telekinesis, obviously.

>>49806157
Teleportation for the Joestar Secret technique, some magic with good utility, and something for making a lot of money easily.
>>49806230
Civilization.

>>49806274
My Name Is Jake from Animorphs protects against both mental and physical hijacking of your body.

>>49806157
- Hacking & crafting perks.
- Pain resistance/immunity.
- Broad, utilitarian magic systems like HP magic, D&D arcane magic, that sort of stuff.
- Plot-related stuff, if you can. Plot armor, plot/main character recognition, plot warping, and plot avoidance/plot involvement depending on how you like things.
- I loaded up on stealth-related perks early on, including camera/sensor-blanking, memory wiping, being outside of fate, that kind of thing.

>>49806157
Buff your brain and get some game mechanics to bullshit your way through things.

>>49806321
>camera/sensor-blanking
Where tho.

>>49806321
>Plot-related stuff, if you can. Plot armor, plot/main character recognition, plot warping, and plot avoidance/plot involvement depending on how you like things.

>I loaded up on stealth-related perks early on, including camera/sensor-blanking, memory wiping, being outside of fate, that kind of thing.

Such as?

>>49806187
I'll catch up to her one day.

>>49804158
Assuming you mean sapient machines, I treat them as any other valued customer. Having said that sapient machines I make are able to have a good quality of life, while still made to fulfill their purposes.

>>49806159
>>49806092
Jump 08: Final Fantasy VI - Hey, I know this one, too.
Location: Veldt
Age: 17
Background: Half-Esper [700] - Sweet.
Perks:
True Humanity - I'm as human as I was when I left. No doubt about that.
>Indeed. You're still as stupid as when you left.
Hey, words hurt.
Uncrowned - Try it. I dare you. [600]
Innate Magic - So this...is what magic feels like, huh? Well, this world's magic, anyways.
Trance - I. Feel. The. POWER! [300]

Gear:
Equipment - Trash.
Airship - I'll take it. [0]

So, first order of business? Take my shiny new airship (which I have dubbed ‘Fluffy’) and speed on over to Figaro. Then, the moment we spot a particular clown out in the desert and approaching the castle, we drop it on top of him. Repeatedly. Several times. I explode what's left with several hextech grenades, hack the giblets into even smaller giblets with my high-frequency katana, then pick up what's left of his head and fire it using the railgun into the ocean.

Then I take what's left of his destroyed body, put into five individual plastic containers, and scatter them to the four corners of the planet.

>Uh, boss? Was this really necessary? I mean, he was already dead after the first few-

I can never be too sure, Brion. Can never be too sure.

>...so, we just murdered a clown and two guards. You gonna tell me why?

Trust me, I just did everyone a huge favor. Us especially.

>Cool. What we do now?

...wanna go find the nearest tavern.

>Sold!
>Dragon noises.

Yes, Shiny, you can come too. No alcohol for you, though.

>Confused dragon noises.

>>49806452
So what's your Esper form like?

>>49806157
Healing magic or disease/poison immunity, especially if you're going drop-in (new worlds = new bacteria) but still important if you're taking a mundane background option. Be a shame if some asshole forgot to properly cook your meal or wash their hands and you died a month into a jump from salmonella poisoning or the local flu.

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>>49806187
I wonder

>>49806496
A glowing and golden humanoid form with four feathery wings of light on my back. Looks angelic, because of course it does.

>>49804808
Demon King Daimo and G Gundam have perks that might help with that.

>>49806517
What's dad (or mom) look like?

It'd be funny if your esper parent was like Diablo or something.

>>49806513
Liam? Is that you?

>75)Final Fantasy 12
>Hume
>Controller

>Solidarity
>Guests
>Gambits
>Action: Constraint
>Reverse

>Companions Across Time and Space (Hume, Netabare, Quickening, [CT0], Circus of Itano)
>Aradia, Kanaya, Porrim, Terezi, Vriska, Aranea, Feferi, Meenah
Soldiers and Adventurers Alike (Sorno, Moogle, Guild Member, Etoria Disciple, Hunt Club, Order of Ambrosia, Nethicicte Synthesis)

>Momentary Relief

Hahaha, these Occuria things think they're gods just because they have a few magic rocks. Cute. At least conquering this world will be a little different from conquering a normal Earth. And there's a race of chocolate bunny women for my wives and I to swing with.

I'll also have to intoduce my new Moogle companion to the crew on Nomanisan Island. I guess I'll throw him in the technical department under Zenalic. He seemed pretty excited about getting to see new technology at least.

I'll also have to intoduce my new Moogle companion to the crew on Nomanisan Island. I guess I'll throw him in the technical department under Zenalic. He seemed pretty excited about getting to see new technology at least.

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>49806529
No clue. Never met 'em.

Alright, where's the train stopping next?

1. Generic Magical Girl
2. Jojo
3. Ring of Red
4. Hero BBS
5. Career Model
6. Charles Barkley
7. Megaman Classic
8. Auralnauts
9. Order of the Stick
10. Borderlands

>>49806352
Ghost from Deus Ex Human Revolution, at least as far as Big Brother entities/organisations are concerned.

>>49806546
So nice, you had to say it twice.

>>49806352
>>49806371
>camera/sensor blanking
Ghost from Deus Ex HR
Ghost from Person of Interest
Hidden Wavelength from Rick & Morty

>memory wiping
Memory spell speciality from HP
Gone from Hellgate London

>plot stuff
It's a long list...this is just a sample:
Plot Armor from Naruto
Death of the Author from Princess Bride
Narrative Necessity from Quest for Glory
Let's Go At My Pace from Beelzebub
My Will, My Way from Boktai
An Inner Clockwork from Penny Dreadful
Spanner in the Works from Worm
Fateless from Kingdoms of Amalur
Record Breaker from Devil Survivor

>>49806500
That sort of thing probably kills a lot of early jumpers.

>>49806628
Not really, since Harry Potter is a traditionally early Jump and there's a 100 CP Perk for that.

>>49806628
Most should be fine, if they survived beyond 6, they should survive fine otherwise. They have all the resistances needed.

>>49806682
>>49806690
By early I was thinking the first two or three. That or not realising the traffic rules might be different in another universe and looking left when they should've looked right.

>>49806500
Even if you're a Drop-In you still get a new body with a new age. It's fair to assume you have a standard in-world immune system.

>>49806741
New age but not new body.
Well most drop ins anyways.
Some give you an altform if the world has different species or something.
I suppose you could just have it give you one anyways, since it's unclear though.

>>49806765
>New age but not new body.
That's your reading, it is not by any means a set in stone rule.

>>49806765
Well we could look for the safest setting which gives out immortality, that would work too, approaching at it the other way.

>>49806682
>going to Harry Potter jump early to avoid being killed by disease

>instead getting killed because you lacked the perks to survive Dementors / Dark Wizards / Dangerous Monsters / Hogwarts Staircases / getting Obliviated

>>49806783
Depends on the jump.

>>49806783
Hence the last sentence.
Although it's not much of a drop in if you aren't literally dropping in as you are.

>>49806788
Or you could just not jump any settings without modernish healthcare until you get disease immunity.
Getting used to new pathogens is a lot easier when hospitals exist.

>>49806812
Well yes, you can, but with a safe jump that hands out immortality, you've pretty much scratched off a lot of possible problems in one go. BBS is pretty safe for that isn't it.

>>49806812
>>49806809
Does SIMS magic or alchemy have curative properties? I know it's super useful for lots of mundane purposes.

>>49806809
Well at least you get some decent magic and the dignity of not dying via diarrhea. Narnia might also work for the Apple of Life, but it's got it's dangers too.

>>49806867
Final Fantasy Tactics is probably a reasonably safe choice so long as you avoid the Jagds? Ribbon Bearer makes you immune to poison (and a whole bunch of other stuff) and you can easily train as a White Mage for healing magic to deal with diseases.

>>49806867
How does the Apple of Life compare to the Golden Apples from Xena/Hercules?

>>49806878
Tactics advanced.

>>49806878
FF magic doesn't actually have cure disease spells as far as I know.
Although I now have the mental image of a jumper who caught TB in generic western casting cure every few days to not have to deal with the bleeding.
If only Doc Holliday were so fortunate.

>>49806865
Yes, there's elixirs to cure illness and even supernatural states (your friend got turned into a vampire? turn them back!)

>>49806929
It does, but it's more common in item form. Virus/Disease/Plague is a status ailment that can be treated with a specific White Magic spell.,

>>49806929
>>49806965
Esuna?

>>49806896
Sorry, yes, I meant FFTA.
>>49806974
Esuna was the one I was thinking of. Actually that'd mean Ribbon Bearer would help with that too.

>>49806974
Esuna works in some settings. Cleanse was the specific spell they introduced for it. Think there was also Refresh for it.

>>49806993
I believe Esuna was originally introduced as the combined, more expensive spell that did both Cleanse and Refresh to cover when you got slammed with multiple status effects.

>>49807055
Esuna came before Cleanse and Refresh, Cleanse is XII and Refresh is XI. The original Esuna had to be leveled in order to cure status effects, and didn't cover disease - closest thing it cured was Toad/Poison.

There wasn't really a reason for either of the latter except they wanted to make a separate spell and condition. Disease was somewhat interesting in XII.

>>49807098
So whether Esuna can cure Disease or not is going to depend on which FF you picked it up in?

>>49807138
I have no clue, generally people decide that for themselves and just stick with it. It's a spell with many different confirmed effects.

Right, so. Just finished the last perk for shaman king. We have six (maybe 4) items left.

Everything else is done. Companions are done, Drawbacks are done, perks are done, items are almost done.

Soon, jc. Soon.

>>49807182
The Shaman King is dead. Long live the Shaman King!

>>49807325
Omnipotence is not allowed.

Or rather, omnipotence will be seen as a declaration of your intent to stay in the world of Shaman King.

How large of a force of normal human soldiers could a chapter of space marines effectively deal with? Assuming that the soldiers are roughly equivalent of the imperial guard if it was less liberal with the use of cannon fodder.

>>49807345
Blade...it was a joke on how you're replacing the old Shaman King jump with a new one. I have no intention of becoming the Shaman King myself, I'm just go to be making sure Hao doesn't.

>>49807368
Pretty much endless amounts if we're going by lore and they don't run out of ammo.
Each space marine is worth a hundred thousand normal guys and since they have armor that protects them from almost anything a guardsman would have on them none of them will die.

As much as I like them Imperial guardsmen are made of paper mache and ducktape.
The only reason they succeed at things in setting is because there are trillions of them.

Love Dagger jump when?

>>49807368
An arbitrary amount. There's only going be so many soldiers that can attack a Space Marine at at a time, and those who aren't are going to be trying to hit a tank that can catch bullets.

They'll need heavy artillery to even begin to pose a threat. They might be able to outlast them, but Space Marines also have great endurance.

>>49807422
...Oh. Okay. That works too.

Though i feel I should point out that I am working with SKAnon on this, as he did show back up.

...Jeanne or Sati? Or someone else?

>>49807445
Would it work if I became the Shaman King, and then just willingly relinquished the power upon the end of the jump? Because attaining enlightenment by becoming one with the spirit of the planet sounds pretty cool.

>>49807423
>>49807438
I thought that a lasgun could, if it hit a weak point, deal damage to a space marine.

>>49807445
I get you, I was just trying to make a pun, you know the whole "The king is dead. Long live the king!" thing? As for who's going to become the Shaman King once Hao has been kicked into orbit...not sure. I'm just focusing on making sure none of the people who would abuse the power of the Great Spirit take control.

>>49807345
Might I suggest that becoming the shaman king has that power sealed on exit until post jump instead of ending your chain?

>>49807466
Eh...

Thats more like the Flower of Maize than anything else. Thats when the previous shaman kings show up to kick your ass and kick you out.

I'd heavily advise against it.

>>49807481
Do you mean Post Spark?

>>49807495
Oops. Yes that is what I meant

>>49807368
Depends. What's the composition of this force? If we're just talking about endless waves of infantrymen feeding themselves into the gristmill, then yeah, of course the Astartes are going to kill an arbitrarily high amount. But if we're talking artillery, then the answer is "none". Forget space marines, artillery is, has been, and always will be the King of the Battlefield. Even a genetically-altered superman in power armor can do nothing more than hunker down and hope for it to pass over him when the iron rain falls.

>>49807472
Yeah, but you have normal humans trying to hit a small spot on a bipedal tank that's treating their friends like unruly blades of grass. Oh, and the tank can catch bullets.

Now, tank into account how combatants today don't even always hit center mass on much slower targets, that a laser weapon will go exactly where you point it, and that these soldiers will probably be quaking in their boots? Your chances aren't looking good.

Artillery's your best option, but you're going to need crews bordering on precognitive to hit an enemy who can out-speed bullets. Or an unhealthy predisposition for friendly fire...

>>49807345
The Great Spirit isn't omnipotent. That's just something that people who are hyping up how impressive the thing is say. It's very strong, but has finite power, and given that it's just the spirit of a single planet is probably far from the strongest thing in the setting. We know that there are spirits elsewhere in the universe, Grey Saucer is proof of that. And if a planet has such a mighty spirit, the spirit of a star or nebula or quasar is likely terrifyingly powerful. In all likelihood, the Great Spirit is in fact a very minor spirit on the grand scale of things, and it's just the provincial attitude of Earth's shamans that make them think it's so godlike. Not saying that means you should allow people to have it. I just think it's something neat to think about.

>>49807472
It could maybe hurt them, but not enough to actually matter in the long run.
Space marines have hyper redundant biology and can continue to fight with serious wounds like they don't even have them. The lasgun would give them a pretty bad sunburn, but they'd get over it. Perhaps after hours of getting shot a space marine would be in trouble, but standard lasguns just aren't good enough to deal with them.

Of course this is assuming that nobody knows how to tune up the lasguns into actually dangerous weapons, but since that knowledge is pretty much universally lost in canon it probably isn't relevant to the fight.
I guess if a guardsman got close he could blow up his gun if he knew how, but that's heretical and he wouldn't get close fighting marines without serious bullshit.

>>49807512
Mostly infantry but a sizable portion of them are other types of solider, including armor and artillery. Say about a third of the overall force being from those two categories.

>>49807556
>but you're going to need crews bordering on precognitive to hit an enemy who can out-speed bullets
No, that's stupid. Astartes can attain bullet-like speed over short distances, they can't keep up that speed long enough to dodge artillery bombardment.

>>49807556
>>49807586
>an enemy who can out-speed bullets.
>Astartes can attain bullet-like speed
They can fucking what?

>>49807567
It's also assuming we're talking about one lasgun. Not an arbitrary number of them. Space Marine armour doesn't last forever.

>>49807605
An Astartes is fast enough, on the very short term, to deflect or catch bullets. But they can't move around the battlefield at bullet speed, they're designed for fast-twitch motions rather than sustained movement. They're not speedsters. Faster than an unaugmented human, sure, but not super speed.

>>49807345

>>49807495
This please. I'd rather it be locked till post-spark, than for it to be chain-ending.

>>49807605
>>49807642
Just like everything in 40K, it's inconsistent as fuck.

>>49807642
>fast-twitch motions
That makes more sense, I thought that was referring to running speed.

>>49807610
Well that's kind of what I meant by after hours of fighting, but yes eventually they'd get worn down.
Unless guardsmen are getting dropped in constantly I don't think the fight would last that long.
There's only so much space for them to stand and after a while everyone would literally be wading in bodies.

>>49807666
I mean sprinting speed.

Also I am apparently Satan today, so that's nice.

>>49807512
You do know that Space Marines in 40k have their own equivalents to artillery? And that a squad of them is expected to be able to conquer an entire planet with regular humans alone.

>>49807689
>a squad of them is expected to be able to conquer an entire planet

>squad

Are you sure you didn't mean to say company or chapter?

>>49807689
I'm aware. But the question was about a chapter of space marines. Astartes organizational doctrine doesn't include artillery support under the definition of a "chapter". At least, so long as you're following the Codex as our spiritual liege intended us to.

>>49806553
Jump 09: Borderlands - Oh hey, this grindfest.
Age: 28
Location: Tartarus Station - Cool.
Background: Vault Hunter [900] - Hey, this is an MO I can get behind.
Perks:
Fight For Your Life - Damn straight.
Your Face Will Remember That - The Illusion of Choice: By Telltale Games. [700]
Don't Do It For Free - Steady work? Neat. [600]
Bad Ass - Let's hear it for me, the Jumper, everyone! [400]
EXP Module - Murderhobo has advanced. [200]

Gear:
ECHO Recorder and HUD - Neat.
Storage Deck [100] - Need it.
Shield [0] - Want it.
The Basics - Meh, they're okay, I guess.

So as I understand it, all there really is to do here is tediously fight gigantic monsters in an amazingly dangerous planet while being on the lookout for treasure and loot. Sure, I can get behind this. Hey, Brion, lemme help you get a hang of these guns...

>Hey.

Oh, it's the boss. 'Sup?

>I couldn't help but notice you're avoiding the plot and most drawbacks. May I ask why?

Well, I don't wanna bite off more than I can chew, that's all. No need to take big risks for big money if I still get to keep adventuring, right? Plus, the natives usually fix everything on their own if I leave them alone. Sorta the way it's supposed to be, right?

>I'd be careful about that if I were you. You might eventually end up with a mess only you can fix...

Pfft, like that'd ever happen.

>Uh, boss? Ain't that lady some kinda goddess ‘er somethin’?

Stop worrying, Brion. C'mon, let's get you a gun. New one for the list, please.

>>49807683
Well, the question was just on how large the human force would need to be and all I was effectively responding to was the idea that they could fight an arbitrarily high number of humans, which isn't right because eventually they'd just get worn down and their armour burned through.

>>49807795
Megaman Zero

>>49807795
Evangelion.

>>49807689
There is no way in hell a single squad of Astartes (of any composition) is going to conquer an entire planet without support, that is simply not feasible.

Unless it is a death world with only a handful of livable settlements for them to capture and remain in control of.

>>49807795
Skies of Arcadia

>>49807795
Redwall

>>49807689
>You do know that Space Marines in 40k have their own equivalents to artillery?
No, they don't. They have a few MLRS vehicles, but nothing meant for sustained artillery barrages. They don't even have any cannons, it's all missiles with them. Well, okay, the Vindicator is technically classified as artillery under the Codex, but considering that its cannon can't actually elevate, I don't count it as an artillery piece.

>>49807802
After a point they could just build a base out of the dead bodies to keep the guardsmen out while building replacement armor out of all the metal bits the guardmen had on them.
Of course that's highly heretical, but so is this entire fight.

Rolled 3 (1d10)

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>>49807818
Added and stored!

1. Generic Magical Girl
2. Jojo
3. Ring of Red
4. Hero BBS
5. Career Model
6. Charles Barkley
7. Megaman Classic
8. Auralnauts
9. Order of the Stick
10. Megaman Zero

>>49807833
Assuming everyone kept charging into melee with them yeah. Instead of actually using their guns. Something the Astartes would all rather quickly run out of ammo for.

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Alright.

Shaman King is 99.99% done. We need exactly one item, and then the while thing is complete.

There are probably a few minutia that need to be changed, such as the location rolls, but beyond that?

It's done.

To be honest, SKAnon and I have an idea for the remaining item, we simply don't really like it. So we are going to spend tomorrow(today, actually) thinking about it, and then either come up with something or use the idea that we're holding in reserve.

So yeah, its pretty much done.

>>49807865
I do like how that's the part you have a problem with and not the dead body base.
Although there are thousands of lasguns just lying around in such a situation. So the marines could just use those once they run out of ammo.
I'm assuming there isn't a bolivian army situation going on though and the marines aren't completely surrounded with an infinite tide of guardsmen.
So there would be luls in the action while more guardsmen are shipped to the front.

>>49807870
Does "Its Got To Be Magical" actually have an effect? It reads like lore/rulings instead of a perk.

>>49807870
I really don't like the whole powerlimitation on mochirei.
Is it too much to ask for a throttle instead?
So using too much at once is bad news, but it's not limited to just one powerset without buying more.

It's got to be magical doesn't appear to do much of anything.
It just explains how powers work and costs points?

Still reading though but these stand out.

>>49807870
Is it possible to reach Hao's level and defeat him with only in-jump stuff if you start off at 50,000 furyoku?

>>49807952
>I really don't like the whole powerlimitation on mochirei.

Well, suppose they let you keep powers on mochirei.

All physical powers are effectively worthless as spirits cannot interact with the physical world.

The magic powers instantly turn this jump into godmode as Jumper is literally indestructible.

Really, i think its a fair trade for being lietarally unkillable for the jump

>>49807870
What's the drawback limit?

tell me jumpers. Have you ever had to use THAT?

>>49807870
I don't really get how RPS inversion works.
Could you put some sort of explanation or example in?
Abusing loopholes doesn't really tell me how it works.

The references to other settings and such should be nixed as well in my opinion. You don't need to call out bleach, naruto, or, 40k and it takes away from the setting tone when you do.

The technique of generations seems very strong, with the equivalent of 6000 years of practice just getting dumped into your head like that. sure it's a capstone, but thats still a lot. Not sure if it needs a nerf though.

Forced possesion doesn't say what it does until the jump is over, and might just be something you could already do if you took the origin.
It also does nothing if you didn't take the origin if I understand it correctly. Might need a revamp.

I don't think elemental aspect needs to change after the jump is over. In fact most perks that do somehting different after the jump is over don't need too unless they'd be useless otherwise. It's janky for lack of a better term and just suddenly getting better after 10 years instead of either doing it already or not doing it at all is just plain odd.

I apologise if these seem nitpicky.

>>49808076
Someone already made THAT joke earlier, anon.

>>49807995
According to my math, assuming a drawback cap of 600 cp, you cannot get more than 100,000 furyoku.

The Sprit of fire had 300,000 reiyoku, and shamans are supposed to have more than their spirits.

On the other hand, the companion options have a surprisingly high amount of cp. You get two free companions with 800 cp, and a ghost with 800 cp of its own. And the two companions get a ghost with 400 cp.

As per canon, it would seem that teamwork is your best option to beat Hao.

>>49808076
Yes. What's the point in having THAT if you don't use it?

>>49807995
IIRC Hao's was 1.250,000, basically, You have 50,000/1,250,000=.04

You have less than half a tenth of Hao's power.

You would need to find a way to get killed, then brought back the equivalent to the 1000 or so years he was around, then you would somehow need to learn the equivalent time in experience with shaman magic stuff.

>>49808094
>Teamwork
Eh, that's an option, I suppose. I was looking at the 800cp drawback and wondering if it was possible to start out at 50,000 and go from there-

>>49808098
>1,250,000
Oh. Wait, how powerful is that in-universe? What can he actually do? City bust? Country bust?

>>49808055
You have a fail condition though so you aren't unbeatable.
Also how am I supposed to be the super macguffin if I don't have all my perks?
Even if I need to switch them out to not kill someone trying to use them I still want to be able to do all my stuff.
You know spirit of jumpchain and all that where you keep things from one jump to the next.

>>49807926
>could just use those once they run out of ammo
Could they? I'm pretty sure the intended user is much smaller than a Space Marine...

>>49808094
>teamwork
>beating hao
He won anon. They couldn't beat him since the author wrote himself into a corner by making him so strong.
He just decided to fuck off instead of killing everyone because reasons.

>>49806157
Boredom resistance/immunity.
Memory buffs.

>>49807995
>>49808094
In a straight fight, the patch origin seems to be best equipped to hold their own.

Between technique of generations, and the fact that they get discounts on the above average ghost ally(aka the god class spirit option), they can probably put out a world of hurt onto hao.

>>49808147
They could just bust off the trigger guard.
It would be small in their hands, but they could still shoot it with some trouble.
Probably wouldn't work in the long run though.

>>49808154
No, his mom slapped him.

Also, I said 'best option'.

What sort of spirit charms does Ten Thousand Winter Nights have?

How crazy is the idea of defending Gem for ~300 years?

Who comes out of the Well of Urd if Exalted Mortals is your first jump?

Does the Ebony Forest need to be fed daily, or can you deliver mortals in bulk? Further, where or how does one deliver said mortals?

Do Resources and Trivials of Thaumaturgy work outside of the gauntlet?

Can you keep the Broken Winged Crane inside the Cache Egg? Does copying it with the Infinite Book keep the horrible mind-rape?

>>49806157
Following that, what jumps would you recommend people take early-chain?

>>49807870
Giving a 3x boost to everything you do just for following customs seems extremely strong for the technique of generations, especially in comparison to the very weak Neo Shamanism allowing you to swap out very slightly different components for shaman magic. Same for Elemental Aspect doubling all your powers for one element. Some examples of what Conceptual Authority actually allows you to do would be good, and in general it would be better if you used real world examples instead of the constant references to other settings.

>>49808184
Harry Potter and Infamous are really good starting jumps.
Same with Pokemon but it was designed for that.

There's also Overlord since you'd fit right in as a player, and Captain N works well as Heavens demonstrated in his most recent chain.

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>>49808177
>How crazy is the idea of defending Gem for ~300 years?
Completely fucking insane.

>>49808184
Light of Terra is my favorite