Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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>>49765683
Still waiting for Burning of Prospero info

>Some other downloads:https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!qgZhmAhKhttps://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!d8hWGKBYhttps://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg!Q5pzWKiI

Maybe it's because anons get tired of the constant shitty memes, and looking at shit painted Marines covered in lead Belcher (or a cheaper knock off) completely dunked in Nuln Oil. The only nice models they see are the same Night Lords posted over and over. This thread has gone way down hill, and I only started checking it in FEB.

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>>49765683
Now I know I need to start up an army or two. Forge World, mind releasing the BAs and DAs first? I can't start up Supreme Grandmaster Lafayette Satie's force with what you got.

>>49765710
I'm just getting started on Imperial Fists (yellow ones surprisingly)

I'll start posting my progress soon, if anyone's interested in YELLOW Imperial Fists

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>>49765710
Well, I can't blame them for memes. It gets really tiring really quickly, but I wouldn't mind seeing marines of the same legion if they were well painted. Even if it's some very simple color scheme.
Look at pic related, straight from the wip thread. Standard Red Talons, very simple color scheme, but done flawlessly and it becomes eye candy.
But then again, you would need people that actually play the game to paint models and we all know that it's probably 1 out 5 posters here that actually play on a regular basis.

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>>49765748
Might want to start watching this.
https://youtu.be/-Hu6fcLX09s

>>49765700
fuck
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!qgZhmAhK
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!d8hWGKBY
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>>49765710
I agree, I'm partly guilty because I'm wating for Thousand Sons and full release of Dark Angels.

>>49765769
Great job on the models. But the bases really suck. Also the stormbolter seems kinda off. Maybe guve it a little red next time.

>>49765769
10/10 Red Talons.

>>49765779
That's exactly what I've started doing already, except with some light Agrax before the yellow for shadow and detailing

Thanks anyway kind anon

Emergency.
I need all the best horus heresy memes lads, for a friend.

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>>49765814
We've sort of memed out, Anon. Too much memage has nearly killed this general, and let's all take a moment to realize that the Space Corgis and Dust Bunnies will make this a livelier place. Pic related. Not sure if I wil get banned.

Repostan from old thread; a new version of dubs pick my legion; based on the list what legion would you guess I'm playing as?
Preator, halo, digi, mc paragon
Mos, arti, refrac
Siege breaker, arti, ref
command squad, 4 power sword, 1 power fist
5 vets, 4 power weapons, 1 lightning claw, 1 HF in a rhino with Hf, acocmpanied by a AA apotechary with power sword
a contemptor with plascan and CCW(melta)
2x20 tacs with extra ccws, vexilas and p-fists+aa on the sergeants.
2 tac support squads (10 dudes) one with chargers and extra CCWs, and one with calivers
5 seekers in a rhino
1 venator and a normal sicaran(Lascans)
and a HSS with lascans.

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>>49765842
>Repostan from old thread; a new version of dubs pick my legion;
It is far too early for chicken, and you should feel bad.

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>>49765814

>>49765842
Smells like IF with too much volkite.

>>49765838
Oh man. I need all the dankest classic 40k memes.
My first world problems are so intense, I have so many memes saved on my phone I can't possibly find them again.
A mate just started reading all the books and not as meme savvy as we.

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Siege of Terra was an inside job.

>>49765855
winner winner chicken dinner

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>>49765870
>>49765876
>>49765866
And we're off to such a lovely start. Almost makes me want to swear off chicken.

>>49765798
>>49765799
Oh they're not mine, although I dearly wish they were. The guy is pretty fucking good with his reds, he made some lovely 40k WB as well.

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>>49765895
I think I've seen his RTs in a WIP thread back last month, but Imma not sure. Got any extra pics of his Talons?

Guys I need some suggestions:

1. I'm footslogging this (1.5k) list around at the moment and I want to expand to 2k Points with transports. What wold you suggest? I thought about 3 Rhinos for the Tacs and a Spartan for my Praetor and his buddies.

2. I know I'm very light on anti tank (luckily my local meta is very infantry heavy) would 3 Medusas (expanding on 2.5k) be a good allround solution for anti Tank and anti infantry?

+ HQ +

Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour]
[Master of Signal]

Legion Praetor [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Teleportation Transponder]
Legion Terminator Command Squad [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 4x Legion Space Marine Chosen, 3x Power Fist, Teleportation Transponder]

+ Troops +

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]

+ Elites +

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons]

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Twin-linked Autocannons]

+ Heavy Support +

Legion Heavy Support Squad [4x Legion Space Marines]
Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour]

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>>49765915
Just the other one he posted today. He just finished a squad.

>>49765932
Legion is IF, forgot to mention

>>49765934
That one mk7 marine must feel like a loner. Isn't that one of the flaws of marines, a need for brotherhood and companionship?

>>49765855
>>49765864
wrong, its SOH

>>49765950
These are 40k RT however, not 30k. You can see other mk7 in the other pic, albeit not in focus.

>>49765987
Just noticed them. Well, those mk7 marines probably feel inadequate for not wearing the armor of their forebears.

>>49765932
This is just two boxes of BaC isn't it?

Master of Signal can't be your mandatory HQ, just so you're aware

Anyone with Thudd guns, Vindicators or Medusas are going to fuck your shit up without trying, it's just lucky that at 1.5k you won't be seeing loads.

Your terminators and Praetor must be around 400 points? A third of your points almost are teleporting in with no modifiers?

>>49760618
>>49760628
Axes make everything better. Literally anything. Name a thing, trust me, an axe would make it better.

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>>49766097
It's an axe and a staff. What now?

Is there any mandatory side for studded pauldrons in 30k? Like on side kept for livery in 40k?

>>49766097
I'm stumped

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>>49766149
uh-oh

>>49766166
Why don't Red Butchers use those?

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>>49766166
>>49766197

That kind of thing would probably be much better at murking people in armour than the kind of power axe we normally see. Rather than these enormous blades, I want power axes with a head that's like a combination hatchet, pick, pigsticker, and meat tenderiser.

>>49765739
I know them feels. Started DA but... would like a special unit or two. And less shit LA rules.

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>>49766299
That's pretty much what the Justaerin have.

>>49765769
Those look really good! Tactical moon is also a cancerous, over done meme, but it's easier to shallow if you post some nice models with it.

>>49765858
Only meme that never gets old, because it calls out /hhg/ on its shit

>>49766398
I.e. /hhg/ is full of WAACfags?

>>49766380

Indeed, I wish they'd make a few more along similar principles.

>>49766370
The rules I can live with. The anticipation is killing me. Might have to buy a few NL bits and pieces for fluff reasons.
>Be Battle Brother of the 3rd chapter of the 4th Host
>Supreme Grandmaster has a habit of taking too long
>how is one of us again
>I swear I haven't seen Space Frenchie brood like a proper Dangle once
>Space Tennessee has too many trees
>oh, great, now the Primarch sent a Delegatus to get boss man on track
>Warp travel is dull
>wait why are we fighting the Night Lords?
>Lafayette has declared open season on Night Lords and their equipment because we need to get back on the Lion's good side

/HHG/ I am having a crisis of faith in the legion I've picked, I've been playing luna wolves(SoH) for the majority of the year but I'm getting increasingly buttflustered over how boring it is.
>>tfw FW will never release any sort of upgrade pack for luna wolves, or shoulder pads.
>>ftw all the SoH exclusive stuff are too barbarous for virtuous luna wolves.
>> will only get worse as the heresy progresses.

for the record I have similar issues with the legion I first wanted to play (EC), componded by the worst slog of a book that didn't inspire me for shit (fulgrim)
I think I want to change my legion to something else.

>>49766618
>the worst slog of a book that didn't inspire me for shit (fulgrim)
Then you're a dull person. The fight's the thing that makes me want to collect EC.

>>49766149
The axe has made the staff better, obviously.

>>49766635
>>taking the slaanesh pill.
not even once, etc.
I found plenty of cool things in the novel, described in bad ways; like the fall of the painter lady who's name escapes me from self harming inferiority complex to "murders people for paint" to be well written or particularly enthralling - nor fulgrim going from pompus asshole to pompus asshole+. Eidolon is also a terrible person and I can't sympathise with him or bile, while Saul and his little clique of friends are at least not terrible people they are vastly eclipsed by the ego's of the other characters.

>>49766678
I'm pretty sure the point was to make Eidolon and Bile terrible people and I don't think you're supposed to sympathise with them, plus if you're not doing Marius and 3rd company are you really part of the IIIrd?

>>49766678
All but the "slaanesh pill" is spot on, it's Fulgrim realising what he had done and not being able to cope with it. At least not until some time later on when he had given himself to Slaanesh of his own will. Granted, he becomes drama queen on steroids, but it's an alternate reality set in the far future so one does not have to have ethical or moral standards of today.

>>49766779
>>49766829
I feel like my open air question got lost in the book; have any other anon had this crisis of faith in their legion and looked to other, more green fields?

>>49766829
About the Emperor's Children in game:
How does the Maru Skara (Open Blade gives +1" to move, run and charge) with Herald Consul (Traitor banner gives +1" to charge to units within 12") sound?
It makes first turn charges possible, but the opponent can always counter it by careful deployment so it's not game-breaking.

>>49766844
Yeah I do it all the time, hence why I've wound up with like 10 Legions
But I plan on finishing my 3rd Company elite at some point, just can't decide on how to do Marius

>>49766938
good to know I'm not the only one who's so wishy washy I could be a dark angel.

Also a 3rd Company Elite RoW says you can't take space marine allied detachments, but is there anything stopping me from making it an allied detachment to another Legion for example SoH primary force and allied EC using that RoW

>>49766994
It's a dark path legion switching brother, escape while you still can...

>>49766844
>>49766994
There's no legion I had considered at some point, I narrowed it down to Dark Angels or Emperor's Children but I'm not sure if I'm a closet loyalist or closet traitor in regard to any of the two.

>>49766998
There's nothing about it, the rules are clear only on the rites' effects not affecting other detachments.

>>49767007
It is terrible indeed.

>>49767007
i can't escape for as long as the list of legions that aren't cool is shorter then the list of legions that are cool!
I've considered every legion but space wolves, thousand sons, word bearers, white scars, salamanders and raven guard (but the last two are changing becaue the pyroclasts are alot cooler then I thought and dark furies are also awesome.)

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Someone wanted to see SoH minis in the list thread. Here's what I have so far

>>49767242
FROM THE LAND DOWN UNDER

>>49767242
Great job, even though I generally dislike SoH, I prefer them fark green rather than teal.

>>49767242
That's a nice green.

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>tfw to intelligent to play Iron Warriors

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>>49767279
>tfw too dumb to spell, too

>>49767300
He plays Imperial Fists.

>>49767300
>tfw to intelligent to argue semantics

>>49767279
Come on man, don't start shitposting.

>>49766398
Each thread it gets reposted, no one ever responds to it. I like the Dorn vs Malcador version better.
>>49766299
Power halberds go.
So...essentially WS Power Glaives on the tabletop?

So Horus sent the undesirables down to Isstvan III to kill them off.

Why not do a mass slaughter on the ship like he did with the rememberancers?
Catch them unawares, unarmed, unarmoured.

>>49767251
Sadly no. Just stupid camera phone

>>49767265
The teal is something that makes then attractive. Don't want to look like Sallies

>>49767275
Thanks. It's Kabalite green

>>49767566
Easier emotional distancing for those that followed him. Not all that remained in the fleet went traitor and there was infighting above the world.

>>49767566
Because it's REALLY hard to catch several dozens thousands Super Soldiers unwarare and unarmed. And all it would have taken is on tiny ship like the Eisenstein to fudge his planby reporting to Terra. Hence why it was very sensible to just put them all on a planet with no means to warn loyalists and bomb the shit out of them. If angron hadn't zergrushed, the HH would have gone very differently.

>>49767045
>>49766998
The FAQ stating that you can take RoWs in allied detachments feels like a mistake. Hear this: Masters of legion cannot use RoWs as allies, Heralds lose support officer but become the only MoL able to use RoWs as allies.

>>49767589
>Brother Techmarine, why can't I sleep with my power armour on? I feel skinless when out of it.

>>49767654
Well technically they can sleep in their armor with one of the implants.

>>49767708
I meant it as "Why am I not allowed to do it?".
I always sleep fully clothed in case there's a fire

>>49767589
Why not just assemble your unloyal troops for a parade on a world and then perform exterminatus?

>>49767743
Because Horus wasn't a traitor by the Triumph of Ullanor.
Btw how come Orks are a threat again? Wasn't Ullanor razed to the ground and the entire sector cleansed?

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>>49767602
Another guy, with a vaguely related question if anyone could answer:
Does a Shattered Legion primary detachment count as the same legion as the warlord's LA rule, or as being a primary detachment from all of the constituent legions in the primary detachment?

>>49767796
No, the Imperial erected cities and monuments there.

The Orks eventually returned there to claim it because it was a subject of wounded pride for them.

>>49765769

That is one fucking crisp paint job mang. Nothing looks better than 1990's red marines when it's put on properly.

>>49767823
A Shattered Legion considers the detachment to be using the Warlord's LA for purposes of RoWs, aka you can bring Assault Cannon Heavy Support squads with rad grenades as part of the Reaping, and bunched Immortals gain +1T when led by a IF Praetor using the Stone gauntlet (so bolters wound them on a 6+). RoWs only affect the detachment they're being used by.
Does that answer your question?

>>49767566
>Why not do a mass slaughter on the ship like he did with the rememberancers?

>roughly 400 human hipster poets and photographers
>roughly 20,000 superhuman killing machines
Yep, totally the same there pal.

>>49767897
No, not really, I understand the part about rites.
I've read the rules and I think my idea isn't doable. In short, I'd like to include a Salamanders Moritat and Destroyers in a post-Isstvan force.
So here's my issue. Let's say I take warlord with LA(Iron Hands). Is the primary detachment considered IH only or Salamanders too, once they are included?
Basically, I want to brute force through the "Disdain of the Dark Age" rule.

>>49767978
Isn't each individual unit a separate LA rule? As in you could have a salamanders warlord and a unit of destroyers but the destroyers themselves cannot be sallies, they have to be iron hands or raven guard or whatever.

>>49767566
It would have been fine but they got wind of the virus bombing and it turned into a shitshow.

>>49768016
That is correct, but I'm not looking for more than a unit of two of Salamanders.
The Disdain rule in specific forbids taking Moritats or Destroyers w/LA(Salamanders) in Salamanders primary detachment, hence my question.

>>49768074
Ah okay I understand now, I'd say not as RAI salamanders cannot take Moritats or destroyers but since shattered legions require opponents permission anyway I'd say chance it and see what happens. I'd be cool with it unless you brought a twin inferno pistol Moritat to the game, no gets hot and ID on marines can fuck off.

>>49768016
>>49768074
I guess Salamanders Moritat is available only in Zone Mortalis FOCs, as those are the only ones with optional HQ outside various primary detachments.

>>49768114
BA can bring these moritats as well you know without permission

>>49768114
Nah, just one inferno or plasma.
Like the other guy said, BA don't need permission, but I'd rather go with fluff and not completely handicapping myself with destroyers.

>>49768114

Like >>49768141 says, BA can bring a double inferno moritat, and if they give him a jump pack (who wouldn't?) and use the right RoW, they can guarantee T1 deep strike, with a 5++ cover save, and pinning on his guns. Just wait until BA get their rules in the late 2030s and the inevitable characters who reduce scatter on deep strike.

>>49767300
But anon.

I actually do play Iron Warriors.

>>49768590
I'd put a small amount of money on BA's full rules coming with at least a small nerf

I'd also like to see Breachers and Destroyers get a re-costing in a similar way to Assault marines, but that's Red Book stuff I think

>>49765838
Yeah. You can't build a community on just memes. It also needs substance.

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>>49768814
>BA's full rules coming with at least a small change

I expect not too many changes and mainly some clarifaction that BA aren't meant to have assault cannons sticking out of everything. Their actual marine buffs clearly show that the intention was a melee heavy legion with lots of dudes, not legion : Assault cannons.

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>>49768868
I am well aware of this. It's just that for some reason, the memes are more prevalent than the substance.
>>49768883
The assault cannons are meant to crack the shell, and then you melee the nuts inside.

>>49768916
I think all the memeposting is just people trying to force the thread to be active by filling it with vapid content in hope that someone posts something that matters.

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>>49768936
Sometimes I think that too. When was the last time someone talked about their latest game? I can only remember Uni's results. I would prescribe a heavy dosage of anyone who actually plays the game to come out of their shells, and talk about how their last game went.

>>49768979
To be fair, I posted a battle report of the last game I had (WB vs WE) a week or two ago, and plan on doing so again for the game I'm playing this weekend.

Even of those of us who play regularly, how often can you get a game in? Once or twice a month?

>>49767513
It's the only meme posted here that makes me laugh every time I see it

>go fuck yourself and stop bringing your primarch to every game

kek

Anybody here have imperial militia or warp cults they wanna post?

As soon as I read the rules I was stoked to see what kind of awesome folks would do with them.

Doesn't help their DT is the fucking gorgon.

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>>49769103
Sorry, I forgot about you. How did it go again?
>Even of those of us who play regularly, how often can you get a game in? Once or twice a month?
I'd imagine out of the all of the folks we get here at least ten of you nignogs would have maybe two games.
>>49769114
Did someone say Militia and Cults? You activated my generator that hasn't been seen in a while. Now roll.

>>49769103
Normally I get a game in every other week or so, but tis just me my brother and another one of our friends that comes round our house to play

>>49769144
Resounding World Eaters victory, mostly because I teleported Terminators on my objective in Ambush, and lost the rest of my army keeping my opponent off of his.

>>49769173
Sounds like those World Eaters weren't too happy about your dudes' dad turning their dad into a big red daemon.

Alright alright, I'll try doing a battle report.

>Participating in HH campaign, play Alpha Legion
>Mission is Vanguard Fury (page 186 of book 2)
>The mission rules heavily favor loyalists, they always start, always deploy last and those damned objectives are as fragile as can be
>At first formulating a plan to defend the objectives as good as possible, no way to actually keep them safe when I realize : what if it is not about the objectives ?
>Plan Omega formulated, everything ready for the day of battle

end of part 1

What chaos gods do each of the primarchs "belong/correspond" to?

In some, like Angron or Mortarion, I feel like you clearly see the influence of a particular god, but not in others.

Khorne:
Khan
Angron
Russ
Sanguinius

Tzeentch:
Magnus
Lion
Corax ??
Alpharius/Omegon

Nurgle:
Horus
Mortarion
Perturabo
Dorn ?

Slaanesh:
Fulgrim

Help me fill in the rest.

>>49765769
These are simply fantastic. How do you even do a paintjob that good?
I've scene worse in Golden Daemon competitions.

>>49769296
Ferrus Manus to Nurgle for Resilience or Khorne for strength. Probs Khorne. Vulkan to Nurgle for love and resilience, Sanguinius to Fulgrim for martial perfection.

Kurze, Horus and Lorgar are pure undivided.

Guilliman to Matt Ward, caused more havoc than a chaos god ever could.

>>49769252
Part 2
>Opponent plays salamanders, has many snipervets with heavy flamers in rhinos, vindicators and pyroclasts in a proteus in his lis
>When deploying the objectives, all are placed on the same table half as close to the short table as as possible, with one exposed in the centre just past a gap between 2 ruins
>Choos Infiltrate as Mutable Tactic, only deploy a Contemptor behind one of the ruins and a Scorpius hidden by another ruin in the middle of the table
>Opponent places as many infantery in rhino's as allowed as close as possible to the exposed objective. It starts to look like he's falling for the bait
>Because of the 18'' infiltrate restriction, my units can only deploy way back to the sides, leaving the objectives even more exposed. Make off-hand remark about how Infiltrate was probably a bad decision
>Opponent turn 1 : all infantery disembark bunched up between the two ruins to all fire at the most exposed objective. During the shooting phase it is completely destroyed, but my forces only suffer a single hullpoint of damage on a rhino.
>My turn. Units deployed backwards drive foward in their rhinos and disembark, encircling all Salamanders. Contemptor does not even need to move, there are already plenty of targets standing within 2''
>Opening fire : The Scorpius gets the maximum amount of shots and lands right in the middle of all the bunched up veterans and marines. All my units the rapid fire anything still standing, whilst my Contemptor (with 2 DCCW btw) uses his meltaguns to ace a rhino.
>Only enemy forces left on the table are some damaged rhinos and a single vindicator
>Rest of the battle opponent desperately tries to get through my forces with what units he gets out of reserves to kill another objective to still pull out the victory
>My units are now comfortably in cover and fire away at anything coming in, whilst my reserves move in from the sides and behind to decimate what tries to hide

End of part 2

>>49769390
Part 3
>Opponent gives up at the start of turn 4, seeing that he only has 3 marines, 5 pyroclasts and a centurion left, and I have Autilon Skorr so am assured of having all possible game turns to complete a massacre.
>Victory for the Alpha Legion
>Just as planned

Hope it was at least somewhat entertaining

>>49769369
But not Pert?
I've seen everybody catalog Perturabo as Nurgly because he's chubby and does sieges. I'd say he is Khorne because he's always angry.

>>49768814
>>49768883

I think a minor nerf to assault cannons could be on the cards too, don't know that the RoW or the access to inferno pistols would be in line for tinkering though. Maybe they'll do something about it though, because an inferno moritat could probably delete most of a full-size terminator squad or do some almighty damage to a super heavy tank in a single turn.

>>49769502
True, Pert is Undivided too. Wanted to do the ones not on the list first and forgot about him.

>>49769502
He's Undivided. It's generally not advisable to talk about if Pert and Lorgar are still Undivided. Just assume they always are until officially told otherwise, and then ignore it. They were Undivided first and they'll always be Undivided.

>>49769390
>>49769415
Holy shit, you pulled an Istvaan V on your own. Why did you have to wait till the thread cried for battle reports to post yours? If I was on my pc I'd cap that greentext.
In fact, could someone do it, please?

>>49768979
I havn't even played a game yet because I want to have my dudes painted first. Having an army of grey plastic is just depressing.

>>49769514
>Illiastus cannons were a mistake.

>>49769415
It was. How does it feel like to play Alpha Legion? I mean, how much variation do you get between games.

>>49769350
I thought about Sanguinius and Slaneesh, but I think Sang was pretty clearly marked by Khorne.

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>>49769625
I hear that a lot. Just how many of your legionaries are ready for the tabletop anyway?

>>49769615
Well I wasn't sure how good it was going to be, don't often write battle reports

>>49769644
Alpha Legion is great, there are so many options and flexability with mutable tactics and the special characters. Maybe not as powerfull straight up as legions with static combat boosts, but the tricks you can pull off are great.
And it is always funny when the opponent gets upset over how your whole army is parked 18'' from his vulnerable flank, or gains Tankhunter when he's spamming vehicles, or deployed foward and then scouts backwards when they brought the other infiltrating legions. Priceless

>>49768141
>>49768240
>>49768590
I know but if you wanted to do it legally then play Bangels, I'd already be making allowances to play both a shattered legions force and Salamander destroyers. I'm saying that's where I would draw the line.

>>49769779
That's cool to hear, I got Skorr mini but I'm not yet sure enough about the legion.

>>49769904
Salamanders Destroyers are legal in an allied detachment. So is Moritat, but him not being able to fill a mandatory HQ slot prevents him to be fielded.
Your point on Blood Angels is good, but some people prefer scales over feathers.

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>>49769951
>some people prefer scales over feathers.
Why not both?

>>49766844
I did with my Alpha Legion. I had two BaC boxes, a Sicaran, Dynat, contemptors, etc. Then I stopped caring, as their fluff became largely uninteresting and I couldn't settle on a list for more than a week. Switched to Word Bearers, haven't had a second thought since.

>>49770340
>abandoning AL
At least it wasn't a loyalist legion.

Have faith Word Bearer.

>>49770056
While I agree, it's an either-or unless going Blackshield.

>>49770363
I forgot what legion you play, Trap. Have you posted your list?

>>49770529
I play Alpha Legion. I haven't posted a list yet because honestly I'm still tinkering with things. I have elements that I want (volkite support squad, Sicaran, maybe a dread) but I haven't gotten it all listed and pointed out yet.

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WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?

>>49770340
It's honestly my inability to pick a list for my AL as well as compulsive collecting that has me sitting on close to 10k points worth, with plans for more. Damn the versatility!

>>49770599
I also decided an age ago that I'd do two loyalist and two traitor legions when all is said and done. I've decided on Salamanders and Blood Angels for the loyalists, but I keep flopping between World Eaters and Emperor's Children for my second traitor army. I love purple, but they feel like they'd be too similar to the BA and World Eaters, while also melee heavy, have a totally different style than both of those legions.

>>49770641
Horde World Eater chainaxes every day, man. Now I wonder why I didn't start myself.

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>>49770585
The bag. What else?

>>49769687
20 guys. I'm not good at managing my time and I also wanna paint other stuff.

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>>49770585
My brother!

>>49769296
Perturabo is equally between Nurgle and Khorne, with a (probably) slight lean towards Khorne.

Tearing down buildings and the theme of siege warfare is 100% all Nurgle, but most of the IWs are full of rage which makes them also likely to go to Khorne.

>>49766022
You repeated the obvious stuff I already mentioned.

>>49770641
I've already got so much power armor that I would really want to do something like solar auxillia if I made another hh army. As it stands, I almost never run any named AL characters and as the geometry legion it's easy for me to play traitor or loyalist and use just about any strategy in any given game with a straight face.

That being said, I did figure out a 3k white scar list that looks like a lot of fun..

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>>49770928
I figured out a list that allows me to field Salamanders Moritat and Destroyers, my friend.

>>49771034
What, a shattered legions list?
Also, are the BAs as melee focused as their 40k counterparts insomuch as they have it concentrated in a few elite units, or is it spread out to the boot infantry as well?
Are they as viable in CC, or is the shooty the big deal?

>>49771059
>they have it concentrated in a few elite units
We don't know, they haven't got units yet, though I suspect they'll be like more rage-y ECs and have a few elites

>>49771141
>they haven't got units yet
I need a table to flip.
I just want to play mah BAs, goddammit, why are they dragging feet on this?

>>49771059
No, a Zone Mortalis FOC. Due to it not containing a primary detachment, the Disdain rule is ignored.
Blood Angels are melee as a whole, every model gets +1 to wound in CC. This is backed up with Perdition Blades and H-Flamer and Inferno Gun favouring close range. Assault cannon spam is just a helpful tool to get them into the grinder, and will likely receive a nerf come the next iteration of rules.
Their Rites further enhance them in melee, but I'm not familiar with them.

>>49771179
>why are they dragging feet on this?
Because Inferno was a bitch to balance, and they wanted models to release with it as well.

You, the scars, the dangles and... someone else, I think?, will just have to wait.

At least we know they can't delay too much longer, what with what's already been seen and the new box

>>49770928
My Word Bearers run Sacrificial Offering, so I've got a fortification and a good number of grenadiers to defend it while my reserves enter play and ruin the enemy's day.

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>>49771272
>someone else, I think?
Iron Warriors?

>>49771335
What are you talking about anon? The Iron warriors already have everything they're going to get.

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>>49771383
They got their first wave at least

Wonder if DG will get anything in the next round of buffs and balances, iirc they were the only book 1 legion where nothing changed

>>49771272
>Mfw I want my next dose of Mechanicum (Reductor) love but not even the Legiones Astartes have their units yet, so this won't arrive for a long time.
Sadness
>>49771383
>The Iron warriors already have everything they're going to get.
OVERSADNESS.

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So, if I start building up a Salamanders list, here's what the first portion would probably look like.

Salamanders - 1000 pts - Covenant of Fire ROW

Legion Praetor - 160
-Paragon Blade
-Volkite Charger
-Iron Halo

Legion Breacher Siege Squad - 250 (×2=500)
-Flamer
-Meltagun
-Sergeant w/power fist & artificer armour

Legion Heavy Support Squad - 135
-Heavy Flamers

Land Raider Proteus - 200
-TL heavy flamer

Total: 1995 pts. I can mastercraft a power fist to bring it up to 2000 even. The plan is to have 1 breacher squad hang out with the praetor and footslog, and have the other hang out in the proteus and jump on priority targets. Really, I just love the idea of Breacher squads.

>>49766678
The Path of Heaven features the EC as the baddies for a large part of the book, and Chris Wraight makes them more interesting than Graham McNeill did - especially the Palatine Blade who's resisting daemonic corruption as long as he can.

Again, they're not the stars of the book, but it might get you back into it.

Is the Legion task force a good place to start a Legion army ?

>>49766879
Sounds good. Remember that the closed blade should consist of blobs of shooty dudes. A lot of people waste it on units that are fast and don't gain much from outflanking, or use it for assault units that have to sit and wait the turn they come on.

>>49771666
>Salamanders - 1000 pts - Covenant of Fire ROW
>Total: 1995 pts
Huh? Anyway, it's nice to see a list like yours, looks very fluffy. May your satan trips give you Marked by the Fates.

>>49771732
Derp, I'm just used to making 2000 point lists. My bad.

>>49771383
Uni, why do we see you so little? Have you forsaken us?

>>49771666
>>49771756
I think you're over stretching what a 1000 point list can really do, I'd suggest dropping the Proteus and downgrading the Praetor to a centurion (say, a forgelord) and taking a third breacher squad.

So I've decided to start a BA force using PotL, because reasons, should I be taking power weapons for my veteran tacs or nah?

>>49771900
He wants to take the RoW at 1000pts, this is a very good way to do it. Try killing that LR that has an invuln to melta.

>>49771887
This right here is exactly why people say generals are cancer.

>>49771900
I was just worried about being able to deal with enemy armour, and a breacher squad coats as much as a land raider anyways. Are more boots on the ground worth it? I was also looking at taking a multi-melta mortis Contemptor, to help save on points a bit.

>>49769625

Same here. My first and only game involved unpainted/primer only shit on both sides and I was like this is lame, this is not why I started this hobby. So I only pay fully painted now.

Rolled 656 (1d1000)

>>49771927
>should I be taking power weapons for my veteran tacs or nah?
Duh, of course dude! Ded killy. Any Ver tactic in particular?

>>49771941
The dice roll is the amount if times you go fuck yourself.

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>>49771941
>This right here is exactly why people say generals are cancer.
Can't handle the Deathworld, agriworlder?

>>49771986
>those results
Anon, if you could have almost invoked the Devil if those results were only a few digits higher.

>>49771986
Not sure, was thinking fearless since there are a few NL players in my local scene, but beyond that no idea

>>49772047
That only means the devil chewed him up and spat him out in disgust.

Everyone post your marines

IW not allowed

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>>49772137

>>49771969
I'm just not sure it's the best idea to try and fit a Land Raider, two breacher squads and a RoW in 1000 points, try 1500.

>>49772133
Which means he's too infused with the Lord's power/Doomguy?

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>>49772137

>>49772217
Those are a lot of Batmarines.

>>49772210
Maybe the touch of Nurgle is upon him.

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>>49772137
Old pic, but it works.

>>49772156
Fair enough, I'll cut some points down and work on adding more dudes.

Did Fulgrim really turn traitor because he realized he was a poor man's Sanguinius? Everything he wanted to be Sanguinius already was. I'm sure Slaneesh would have rather have the Fabulous Hawk-boy instead of Fulgrim.

I wanna see someone paint up a WE army in the new dark red and white colors.

>>49772240
It's one of the three.
>>49772255
I remember you.
>>49772281
Unless Horus was fantasizing about Papa Sang when he was raping Fulgrim, or if the daemon within the sword kept saying Ugly Mug wouldn't be as perfect as Papa we have inconclusive evidence.

>>49771644
>OVERSADNESS.

At least IW have a model for their primarch. All we Alpafags have is a meme and a upgrade set for the most shit unit in all 30k

>>49772306
I think someone has done that.

>>49772360
That is unfair, even more so. Hopefully Headhunters and Banestrike will be fixed in a FAQ, rather than in book 8. It'll be evil if Alpharius doesn't have his helmet on and isn't smaller than Angron.

>>49772306
I'm thinking of doing it with my Despoiler squad, but I'm not sure how they would look alongside >>49772255

>>49771683
True, they are better than "lol we're evil so let's do some shit!!" in "Fulgrim".
The one story that may sway me to the Emperor's Children fully is "the Phoenician". It's from Santar's point of view, and it was written by Kyme, but it's surprisingly good.

>>49771697
You mean 3xBaC with legion upgrades?

>>49772087
Fearless is no longer an option, Veteran Tactics has been changed.

>>49772281
It's complicated.
I'm not so sure about Sanguinius, physical features aside, he had none of the qualities sought for by Slaanesh.

>>49772087
Use the +1WS option, your dudes already have effectively +1S but better.

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>>49772236
about 3000 points

>>49772567
>I'm not so sure about Sanguinius, physical features aside, he had none of the qualities sought for by Slaanesh.
In Fear to Tread you've got Khornate and Slaaneshi daemons going after him - the blood connection is obvious, while for Slaanesh it's probably his predilection for the arts.

>>49772567
>Fearless is no longer an option, Veteran Tactics has been changed

Where are the updated tactics? I was not aware of the change

>>49772986
There should be a link to the new redbook in the OP by now, you can find it in there

>glares threatingly at breadanon

>>49773010
I didn't even make this thread. I was sleeping, but I did have a 30k dream. Weird temple, but it had stone carvings of the Primarchs.

>>49772567
Yes. I just don't like mass transfers and my skill at free hand stuff is worse than a 5 year old

>>49773035
Dreaming about 30k ? That's stupid, who would ever do that, god your such a nerd.

No I totally never dreamt I was painting models, of course not, that would be totally dumb *forced laughter*

why would you ever take terminators over honour guard in termie armour, or is 'implacable advance' just that important

building orbital assault golg list atm

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My totally-not-White-Scars-guys-I-swear World Eaters Javelin. Also could use tips on lighting...I had a desk lamp less than a foot above the model pointing down on it but it still looks dark and you can't even see the highlighting on the white and red, but you can see the metal which looks way better in person trust me.

>>49772986
>>49773010
>>49773035
Fuck it, somebody uploaded an .epub a few threads ago but the link got lost.
I'm uploading a .pdf version right now, but it will take 20-30min because I'm from third world.

why are combi-volkite chargers and volkite chargers the same price for command squads, surely combi weapons should just be 5 for them

>>49773142
... Is there something wrong with the pilot or do you still have to glue him in properly ?

Metal is a bit too obviously washed.

>>49773142
nice godwyn melta you got there friend

>>49773142
Thats a pretty rough recast bro

>>49773142
THICC

also what the fuck did you glue a multi melta barrel on a heavy bolter

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>>49773204

>>49773264
That's a combi weapon but I'm guessing you meant it's ultima and so kosher.
Either way it's k, but the metal looks abit too gold and not brass enough making them look more like bleached thousand sons than WE

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if i wanted to emulate these particular bad motherfuckers in tabletop format, how would i go about doing so?

>>49772217
>has slaves mixed in
You cad, you!
>DOMINUS NOX
>>49772255
I hate the World Eaters in general practice, but I love their color scheme.

>>49773399
FnP Iron Hands
so Iron Hands with an apothecary attached

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>>49773142

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>>49773475
why the purple

>>49773182
Where you at, anon?
It's always interesting to talk to people from outside Europe and America who play shit like 40k and how the games are seen.
>and sometimes it wounds, like Syriaanon

>>49773415
thats a pretty good idea, though are iron hands as killy as they need to be to properly be like the DOOM SLAYER?

>>49773497
Because I couldn't decide between purple-ish, blue-ish or green-ish Alpha Legion.

So I used all three of them.

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>>49773518
Oh, I'm from Europe.

Anyway, here is the link to Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness Army List .pdf, let it kindly be included in further OPs:
http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/0izpcePz/file.html

pic just to get attention to the post, but there is some history behind the bridge in it if anyone's interested

>>49773497

Last week they were Emperor's Children.

>>49773682
Plz post pdf of the Crusade Imperialis and the Mechanicum book.

I know we have a pdf of the mechanicum book, but it's kinda meh.

>>49773497
Hmm, Jen has changed since I saw her last.

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>>49773717
who is Jen

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archive-anon here, r8 my muh orbital assault list for 2000, should I have more bodies or no. Also, why does the Drop-Pod page make mention that it can carry a legion dreadnought but even with Orbital Assault you can't make a regular droppod carry a dreadnought

>>49773682
I would like to know said history.

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>>49773740
This is Jen.
>>49773791
>2k
>1k
They are not the same, anon.

>>49773808
>>49773791
Forgive me my lords, I meant 1k in the first post but not the sons

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>>49773715
Sorry, don't have them, only the photo-scan of the Taghmata, the same as you.

>>49773796
>I would like to know said history.
Say no more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stari_Most#Destruction
pic related this time

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>>49773682
Which legion is he

>>49773791
why bother with golg if you aren't having an army of teleporting termies?

>>49773963
Because HoW, Fear and harsh taskmaster if I'm facing snipers

are laser destroyer vindicators worth it?

>>49774119
If anti-infantry yes, if anti vechile keep the demolisher, if general purpose no

>>49774065
But snipers have no pinning or anything attached to it for which having higher leadership would be beneficial

>>49774065
Wouldn't Hammer of Wrath serve you better if you bring more terminators? Quantity over quality.

>>49774152
he's building a thousand point list, there isn't really room for quantity or quality

>>49773142
>Also could use tips on lighting
The problem is that your camera is on auto-exposure and you have a white background (and a white model). Cameras think that the world has an average brightness of 18% gray, so if they see a bunch of white they reduce the exposure until it's gray. Similarly, if you took a photo of a black mini on a black background, the camera would increase exposure.

tl;dr - use a neutral gray background. Or use exposure compensation and increase exposure by approx. 2 stops.

Also, use two sources of lighting: one from above, and one horizontal from the front-side.

>totally-not-White-Scars-guys-I-swear World Eaters
All it takes to make it identifiable is a single logo.

>>49774147
If your sergeant dies it's kinda helpful to have Golg in the back pocket
>>49774152
If I wanted more then I'd have to be using normal terminators not a command squad, and I'm liking the fearless banner and 'chosen warriors' and choose between smiting with an axe or stalling with a sword

>>49774137
Did you just recommend a single S8 blast over a 3-shot S9 Ordnance for anti-vehicle?

>>49774187
Interesting. I had a feeling the camera was the problem somehow, but I chalked it up to phone cameras just being shit in general.

>All it takes to make it identifiable is a single logo.
Good thing I used 2 decals =^) For real though, White Scars have white shoulders with red trim anyway, so it should be fine without...theoretically.

>>49774290
You mean S10 Ordnance blast?

>>49774290
SCREW THE RULES I HAVE MONEY
yeah sorry typo

>>49773532
World Eater Sniper Vets with the Crimson Path RoW. Shooty, choppy, and FNP in the enemy deployment zone which you'll probably never leave once outflanking (that's what I'm doing)

>>49774377
Fuck

>>49773740
thanks for posting pics of pigeon girl. following her on instagram has opened me up to many more slav chicks doing cute things.

>>49774377
so 1 s10 blast over 3 s9 twin linked?

>>49774137
Why do you rate 3 Str 9 AP 1 ordance shots at 48'' range higher as anti-tank than a single Str 10 AP 2 ordance blast at 24'' ?!?

It this some kind of prank ?

>>49774119
Laser destroyer Vindicators are probably the most points efficient anti tank unit in the game.

>>49774512
At range only. If you include CC options then it is hard to outclass 20 meltabombs on assault marines or breachers.

>No the draft errata isn't out yet, yeez

>>49774439
I like how you think
every time I build a list, I always forget about tactical veterans

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>>49773740
>>49773796
>>49773497
>>49774458

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>>49772137
Not much since last time. Currently painting bases for the next 5 Furies.

>>49774568
>it is hard to outclass 20 meltabombs on assault marines
What about Vets with power swords and melta bombs inside a Dreadclaw? Dual purpose squad that flies above AP3 templates.

>>49774574
they're pretty much the most flexible, customizable, and dare I say undercosted unit in the codex right now. plus with World Eaters you can take Inductii Tacticals so it doesn't even feel like a "troop tax" to open up the elites slot.

>>49774568
>>No the draft errata isn't out yet, yeez

Why yes, GW, I'd LOVE to buy 19 extra melta bombs that I can't use! Jolly good show!

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>>49773843

That's cool.

On the same note, the Choral City in Isstvan III happens to be Madrid. See pic.

>>49774776
That's a great find.

I guess I'd do the same if I were working on one of those books.

>>49773035
Breadanon, are you Horus by any chance?

>>49766998
I was under the impression that if the rite said you couldn't take X allies, you also can't be the ally to X.

>>49768141
Aren't BA inferno's shorter range than the Sally ones?

>>49774835
No. I'm Malcador. The temple was Egyptian looking so no Chaos looking funk, and had minis and tablets of all Primarchs carved in stone.

>>49774568
>implying anyone who plays HH is going to take the FAQ seriously if they don't fix the pants on head retarded shit in it

>>49774731
Your mistake is to assume GW cares in the first place
>>49774681
>dare I say undercosted unit
Sort of, yes. 160pts of Sniper Vets kill 1.85 MEQs while 145 pts of Regular Tacs kill 1.11, meaning Sniper Vet troops are superior to Legion tacticals on the majority of scenarios, especially in melee, but Legion Tacticals are occasionally better guarding a point due to their Fury of the Legion. Occasionally. They're also more disposable, but Vets are better against vehicles and can get combi-weapons, although that's a case of putting more eggs in the same power armoured basket.

STILL, both options suck at killing MEQs, as killing just one costs you 86.5pts using Vets, or 112.6-130.6 pts when using Tacticals.

Remember to eat your greens, wash your teeth and leave those 12 Phosphex rapiers packed up or everyone else will be legally required to beat you up due to being That Guy.

>>49774858
FAQ says no, but I say BS, since this allows you to bypass many of those limitations.

>>49774911
Amen 911

>>49774471
I have fun out flanking demolishers using IH as they can avoid flare shields. Laser destroyers will be better, more consistent AT against most other vehicles with more shots in the long run I feel

>>49774886
Inferno are just pistol 6". If you're sallies, probably master crafted tho

HHG, you're playing a 2000 point game and you've got 275 points to devote to anti-tank shenanigans...assuming the rest of your army is AP3/AP4/AP5 and ranged Strength lower than 7, what do you add in to crack open some tanks? Bonus points for things that aren't Rapiers.

>>49775081
Krak lightnings
Javelines
5grav speeders

We full tactical now. There is still hope for us!

>>49775081

-Laser-destroyer array rapiers
-outrides with meltabombs
-dual DCCW or DCCW-Chainfist dreads of any flavour. Gravguns optional
-Attackbikes with multi-melta
-Speeders with graviton guns and/or multi-melta
-Javelins with cyclone and maybe multi-melta
-Laser-destroyer array vindicators (2 just fit)

>>49775081
I use outflanking vindys, chain fist contemptors, or Orth in a siacaran. 275 is a little low for the only AT in 2k really

When will they give us alternatives to plasma weapons for MEQs/TEQs and nerf grav and haywire (at least in availability if not rules altogether)?

This game is literally Gravhaywire: the Plasma.
I thought it was bad enough with flyers when I stopped playing last time, but now, Jesus. Does GW care that it's ruining it's own game?

>>49775166
>>49775201
>>49775218
grav speeders or multimelta speeders? I feel like putting both guns on the same speeder is a bit risky.

>>49775242
Grav is very reliable, but no shot if you jink. Melta of course cash be ignored, but still a strong weapon against most things.

>>49775299
If he could deepstrike and kill the target on arrival, that'd look awesome. But there's scatter to worry about.

Well, voxes are abundant at least

>>49775240
go shitpost in the 40k thread

>>49766097
I wouldn't thrust you with an axe, for one.

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>>49775640
I'm still thinkinfg about what >>49766097 said. I've yet to find something not improved by the addition of axes.

>>49775640
I wouldn't thrust me with an axe either, anon. I'd chop. I'd chop me so hard.

>>49775664
Kek at the Dark Angels one.

>>49770838
>IWs are full of rage which makes them also likely to go to Khorne.

I thought they were more like bitter cynics see (Have faith Word Bearer) with a tendency to let loose in the trenches.

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>>49775971
My favorite is the Thousand Sons one.

>>49776125
Magnus did nothing wrong.

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>>49774776
>tfw Real got finally BTFO by Horus.

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>>49776024
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kroeger#Later_Years

From Iron cometh shafting. From shafting cometh bitterness. From biterness cometh anger. From anger cometh autism. From autism cometh Iron.

What legion are you from, Hater-anon?

>>49776224
I wish Mcneil would write a story about Kroeger's armor, like she joins a group of traitors and then takes off her helmet to reveal a non-astartes when everyone thought it was Kroeger.

Just a reminder that Barban Falk is the only acceptable Iron Warrior.

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>>49776247
Better yet

>Be Kroeger's armour machine spirit
>You exist solely to protect your master
>He puts you to rough use, but rough is how you like it ;^3
>The Heresy happens, your master grows increasingly violent and deranged.
>The Techmarines who attended the Word Bearer School of Witchcraft and Daemonology come back with a little surprise and bind a ghost-friend to you. The more the merrier. It begins to be cramped in here, though.
>We have grown bored of our master. Always the same motion patterns, always lets through the same blows.
>Parrying_wotz_dat.rememp3
>We FURIOUSLY DESIRE a CHANGE towards ROTTEN flesh.
>He got himself a tiny human as spoils of war
>Hmmm...easily manipulable...room for bodily modification...hatred toward everything...pent up lust...
>+++OPENING_LOCKS+++
> S t e p . i n s i d e . g i r l . - . - . -

And you all know what happens next.

>>49776224
fuuuuuuuuuck i didnt know he dies that stupidly.

>>49776498
Storm of Iron is awesome, it'll always make me smile to think that the Iron Warriors conquered Hydra Cordatus in the great crusade and then raided it for Imperial Fist semen 10k years later. Mcneil is a cheeky cunt.

Does anybody here actually take a Damocles Command Rhino? I like the model and think helping reserve rolls is boss, but I rarely see any lists posted here or elsewhere taking one. feels like after you blow your orbital strike load its kinda just sitting there.

>>49775712
I don't know, but boobs seem to lose what makes them appealing by the addition of axes.

Not an expert though.

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>>49776791
>boobs seem to lose what makes them appealing by the addition of axes.
Pfft nonsense.

>>49776782
Buddy made one of the most brutal IW list with a damocles and Perty and PotL. Those turn one termies are tough to displace afterwards.

>>49777043
yeah I'm thinking about outflanking veterans for my world eaters, some reserve manipulation might be nice. and the damocles command vehicle (the cheap one, not the deimos one) is only 50 bucks tax included. all praise the brexit party emperor.

>>49777072
It's a good support unit for just that. Very helpful for deep striking if you have it. Only gets one large blast now but still ok. Regular reserves could be manipulated by a comms relay as well

>>49777043
What was on that list besides Perturabo, the Damocles and the terminators?

>>49777150
Perty with termies and chaplain
2 5 man termies
5 seekers in the damocles
Mortis kheres contemptor
Fist + las contemptor
5 Tyrants + Siege Breaker w/ boarding shield
7 Havoks with autocannons
2 basilisks

Think that was it. Maybe a tac squad extra if I'm missing anything

>>49777126
eh not a big fan of fortifications/paying for terrain. which I guess works out in my favor because the WE RoW doesn't allow any either. ok cool you convinced me on the command rhino, thanks!

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I think Power Axes are the best power weapon, other than Power Fists.

>>49777978
It depends.

>>49774933
I wont comment on the mathhammer, I'm sure its correct, I just want to add that since BAC was released a huge majority of lists already spam veterans, and I feel that it isn't really in the spirit of the game to have only veterans.

to me horus heresy is about huge masses of marines and I try to always take 40~60 marines in great blobs before looking at the other choices, I get tabled alot because I play against 40k armies but to me its cool to play with blob marines.

>>49776472
>pent up lust
Wut? I admit I haven't read SoI in years, but wut?

>>49778208
Just saying stuff so it caters to all four chaos gods, that was it.
>>49778199
Make tactiblobs great again?

>>49778199
Same here, Tzeentch. I have 40 tacs, 2 Apothecaries, and 14 terminators in my list, including my Praetor.

>>49778224
tacticals will never be better then vets, even if FOTL was buffed somehow, vets bring better versetility compared to tacs, with their special weapons and vet tactics - the only thing that would make tacticals "better" then vets is if there ended up existing a popular platform that killed 10 meqs/per shooting, but even then I'm pretty sure it'd just push the pendlum the other way so we'd see even LESS marines around and more dreads/FW tank spam.

>>49778254
Then you'd need to increase the Vets' cost. As it stands, it's 15pts for a rule (so, 1.5 pts per mini), +1A and access to lots of wargear. And they become troops on 2 RoWs or more depending your legion.
They're a damn good bargain.

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>>49777978
That's a nice Power axe sergeant you have there

it would be a shame if something were to happen to him before he could attack

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Oh yes, it was a good day today

>>49778254
>tacticals will never be better then vets

Plenty of legions make better use of tacticals than vets, AL/RG can infiltrate them and having 20 3+sv 5+FNP dudes in your face is nasty, EC can also do this with Fulgrim and works great with Maru Skara, if youre using fortifications then IW with Hammer of Olympia benefits more from tacticals than any other troop choice and IH having more bodies is better considering how resilient their troops can be.

Every troop choice has its use depending on the legion and the RoW.

anyone else stay up thursday nights just to see what gets released? it's been a depressing couple of thursdays for me.

>>49778695
It coincides nicely with my timezone, so I do it from time to time.

>>49778317
>needing a pheonix power spear to hit faster than a power axe
Why are Emperor's Children so slow?

>>49774776
I'm interested to hear more about any finds of the sort, especially the ones with some stories behind them. The bridge in particular connects Muslim and Christian parts of the city and some believe that was the real reason why it was blown up.

I am really interested in starting a small Blood Angel 5th Company project out of the Calth set (M'FleshTearers) But I don't know how to equip Cap'n Nassir.
Can anyone confirm his wargear from Fear to Tread?
I know post heresy he rocks the dual chainfists.
Praetor Tribune model, maybe?

>>49779291
Can't go wrong with an axe. More martially minded commanders had a lot of weapons to choose from.

>>49778251
2 hq, 40 tacs, 10 destroyers, 10 vets, 10 seekers and a dreadnought. It's fun having a lot of guys, although I'm at a loss about how to model some of them.

Alright, so I've got a 1500 point game next week against some Iron Warriors. I'm bringing Word Bearers. I'd like to have my Librarian summon some Bloodletters and some Horrors, as those are the daemons I currently have. Would they be a viable way of tying up his Havocs and Thudd Guns? I'd also be deep striking some Gal Vorbak out of LoS so they wouldn't get gunned down the turn they come in. Am I a tard? Would my librarian be better off buffing units or harming the enemy? I've never used a psyker before, so I'm a little wrong-footed.

>>49773875
The best legion.

I doing a Book 4 pdf out of scans provided by Scanon using AcrobatPro. This is my first time so any advice on how to make it better is very welcome. When it's done I'll upload it by the end of the day (10AM here).

>>49779969
>>49779979
Where from!

>>49779979
>NZD 315
Thats 730 dollars gone.

>>49779979
I need at least two of these. At least.

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>>49779979
>Non-generic characters
>Half the box taken up by subfactions only loyalists can use

>>49780033
>35 marine bodies
>12 non-generic bodies
>same price as BaC

>>49780033
Still gets 30 Mk III and 5 tartaros. For a fraction of the price if you sell the rest.

>>49780033
>only loyalists can use
That's because traitor and heretics suck
[Spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]

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>>49779979
>fell-hand
>lightning claw on left hand, like Bjorn's art
>decorative blades on the lighting claw similar to one's on Bjorn's dreadnought
>left shoulder pad similar to Bjorn's art
>hair, braids and beard similar to Bjorn's art
>not Bjorn

Fucking seriously?

I bet the artist had already made a Bjorn model but GW got autistic and just renamed the dude.

>>49779979
I kind of want to start T Sons with this but having them in MK III kind of triggers me

>>49780033
>can't find anyone to trade their custodes and sisters for more tartaros/mk3s

You deserve everything you get, heretic scum.

>>49779979
>100 dollarydoo markup
Welp, to british second-party re-saler i go.

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>>49779979
>Plastic Volkite chargers and serpentas

>>49779969
FUCKING PLASTIC SISTERS AND D10, the CEO has gone mad

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>>49779979
>>49779969
FOOKIN HELL LADS

>>49779979
>Azhek Ahriman
are they actually retarded by not making him in resin or making it limited edition
Also lol that I ordered B@C last weekend
now just get your bloody greenstuff in stock elemental games [endspoiler]
>>49780112
Where's the volkite, also reminder we still don't have volkite for box naughts

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>>49780161

Meanwhile FW is spaming us with a new weapon for the Tau Titan.