Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1124: Defeating the Little World Edition

>>49731384
Little worlds are for bullying.

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I dunno mate, the World is pretty full of gains
OOOOOOOOOOH, HOW FAR AWAY
THE IDEAL WORRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLD

>>49731107
I'd assumed it allowed you to change fate, I was more wondering how it worked in settings where the future wasn't fated in the first place.

How good is the filing cabinet's data analysis/markings? Could you give an example "file" or two?

Thankyou for the rest.

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>>49731396
Incorrect
Chuunis are for bullying.

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>>49731187
Are you ready for some highly literal Horse Lords, JumpChain?

Or on a similar note, the presumable chance to guide an elf/dwarf/weeaboo/fairy country to greatness?

>>49731422
Regardless of whether a setting has fate or not, there are perks that allow you to see the future, though again, this can be changed at the moment that you find it out.

As for how good they are- You can assume that it is as good as an in-depth CIA file on someone- so, aggregating all the data available to come up with the conclusions that an agency of that level would be able to create. If your target would be able to conceal their true intentions from an agency of that level, there might be some holes in your files, though as soon as you find out what you're missing, your files update.

>>49731447
>Or on a similar note, the presumable chance to guide an elf/dwarf/weeaboo/fairy country to greatness?

That's too memey even for me.

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>>49731212

>>49731478
Glad to see enthusiasm, but CK will probably be the last one I do. Which means at least a month or so from now.

>>49731464
No, no, no. You start by having elf/dwarf/weaboo/fairy companions and utilize your wildly impractical cloning/time manipulation/fertility technology to ensure that they become a significant minority in the target country and start handing them titles.

Assuming there's no pesky rule saying you can't do that it should work about as well as the previously pictured emperor of rome.

>>49731447
>That image
I just might hate you.

>>49731491
>but CK will probably be the last one I do
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Will there at least be options to import a Mod? For any of them
At least some of the really popular mods, like Kaiserreich for HoI

>>49731516
Ah, I thought you were talking about being able to do that with just the in-jump options.

Keep in mind that that image was based on a glitch- so if you do happen to do such things, be ready for many crusades against you.

>>49731527
I was planning to do a Kaiserreich jump on its own after the main series jumps.

>>49730925
Well, I've been to tons of other jumps. For reference, my last posted build was Code Lyoko at #38, SMT was #14, and Devil Survivor will be #42. I've got tons of magic from places like The Elder Scrolls (including shouts) and Ar Tonelico.I've got about half a dozen durability & strength perks. I did pick up Bels and Whistles, yes.

>>49730948
I did get boosted Devil Summoner as well, so I've got a lot of very strong demons under my command.

The option in Warframe that lets you get extra abilities- is it 200WP to double everything, or 200WP for one more of any given slot? The density of per X and the line immediately following that bit is tripping me up.

>>49731560
200WP for one more of any given slot. So you can buy four more slots.

>>49731594
Alright, thanks Red.

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>>49731446
Even more incorrect.

Titlets are for bullying.

tyki anon here again just finished my second jump which happened to be black bullet. it was an experience I picked up some things before I left mainly my first companion Zarei I was her promoter, second I picked up smoking it was something myself from that world did and so it's something I do know. and lastly a hatred of child abuse, Fuck Cairo.

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>>49725436
(Darkstalkers) #61
-Background: Blooded (Free) -The visage of demonhood is becoming absolute.
-Basic Moveset (Free) -We all must start somewhere.
-Joking Taunt (Free) -You had best not be coming at me with that stick.
-Sexy Taunt (Free) -...not sure what I'm going to do with this.
-Badass Taunt (Free) -I do not think you will appreciate what happens if you press on.
-Arcane Assault (900CP) (Discount) -Fire casts a shadow, and those shadows belong to me.
-Livewire (800CP) -I think... that this will help me in some respect.
-Demonic Lineage (Free) -Demonhood should look good.
-Hellfire (Free) -Come on. Step into the fire with me.
-Transformative Wings (700CP) (Discount) -Of course, my shadow isn't JUST a shadow.
-Elegant Appearance (550CP) (Discount) -At least I can custom tailor my demonic form now.
-Hot as Hell (350CP) (Discount) -My very presence shows the power of being a demon.
-Blood Magic (100CP) (Discount) -And if you think my blood will simply remain blood, you best think twice.
-Asidespace (Free) -My own SHADOW is a storage space now? Shiiiiit.
-Crown of Makai (0CP) (Discount) -I am beginning to suspect something is at play here.
-Whatever vs. Capcom 4 1/2 (0CP)
Dice Rolls: Makai, 23 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

There's not much to say here because this is basically one big vacation for me. I'm not going to focus much on the fighting, mostly just trying to simmer the fuck DOWN and enjoy what I can. I mean... after a lot of fighting, a lot of bullshit, I finally did it. Demonhood is mine.

Granted, the question remains on whether it was worth it.

I've become the very thing I've hunted and learned to forge. Yes a lot of them were evil, a lot of them were malicious, a lot of them wanted to just take humanity and tear it apart. That's not kosher. That's... it doesn't feel right. Why do that? What point is there to wanton slaughter, to any kind of evil? It's stupid.

So why do I know how to use my new species as resources? It feels... odd.

Apart from the one in Skullgirls, where can I get an army that takes 1 companion slot? (100ish men is ok too)

>>49732106
Kerbals, the Waddle Dees in Kirby. I think they're the best numbers wise. Other than that... I don't know of any others than go above 15-20 in one slot.

>>49732106
Kerbal Space Program

>>49732106
There'sjabn ans option in WH$KImperium.

>>49732161
>>49732249
Thanks.
I guess these guys are gonna be my Space Marine Legion. or, chapter. or... whatever. army.

>>49732335
>forgetting picture
>>49732302
Importing there, actually.

>>49732335
If you want your own chapter, you're gonna have to do some really cool shit to deserve it. Not to mention that the founding process takes dozens of years, minimum.

>>49732400
You know there is an option that can let you import enough companions as Astartes to start the jump with a chapter.

>>49731961
>>49717788
>Part 2: http://pastebin.com/GiPYxqxX
That was fun story. Glad you got a happy ending, at least as happy as you could get in Dead Space.

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>>49732400
Going to battle of Istivaan. Don't worry, I've got a lot of stuff planned out for this. My mary-sue fanfic will be the stuff of legends.
also im going to actually attach the picture now instead of just being rude to myself for it.

>>49732433
No, you'll just be part of an existing chapter. Getting the equipment to actually make it an independent chapter, getting a liscence to do it, etc.- there are countless processes that will take you probably centuries.

>>49732474
>a kerbal chapter
>at istvaan

I hope you're ready to pull an entire chapter's worth of weight, not to mention survive the entire heresy, if you want to make your own chapter.

>>49732496
He does have a certain advantage there anon, Kerbals are really good at making things explode, even when they shouldn't, particularly when they shouldn't.

>>49732529
Yeah, but competence?

>>49732538
The import would turn them into full fledged space marines, that is plenty of competence.

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>>49732573

>>49731622
dude i don't give a shit about your magical realm

>>49732573
True, but there's a lot of variance among full-fledged space marines. Recruiting people who have a history of incompetence is likely to lead that to bleed over into future endeavours.

Besides, If I recall correctly, the Jumpmaker said that it was going to divide all the benefits from perks evenly among the Kerbals. Otherwise, it would be ridiculously OP- as this scenario demonstrates.

>>49732538
I'm not going directly from Kerbals to Imperium, anyways. Believe me, there will be some uplifting. Also, Imports. If they're really that incompetent, then that will be snuffed out on their first background import.

>>49732609
He can import them each as space marines individually for 600 cp.

>>49732573
As >>49732609 said, it's actually the competence of one space marine, divided among your hundreds of Kerbals.

>>49732538
You don't need competence when you have kompetence, and who knows in 40k they may manage to summon an invisible kraken to tear apart their enemies, or maybe they will strap some battle barges together and make a kraken drive to shoot ram their enemies at 15 times the speed of light. Everything is possible when it comes to Kerbals. Also I do have to say I think the one thing the Kerbal jump is lacking is a perk or something for a kraken drive.

>>49732627
Can you actually split multiple in one companions like that? Even if you do can you make them back into a multiple in one companion later?

>>49732627
I don't think you can be selective like that. If you import them separately, they become separate companions.

>>49732642
So multiple Kerbal by magic pain glove

Nothing can go wrong

>>49732627
A standard space marine chapter needs 1000 marines.

at 600 CP each, you're talking about 600,000 CP- with no other perks taken.

Fortunately, Imperium has no drawback limit. You can stay there as long as you like. In fact, you can take dark millenium as many times as you like. As such, you can take this perk 4,000 times and do this.

The cost of this, though, is spending 10* 2^4000 years in 40k, or, according to wolframalpha, 131820409343094310010388979423659136318401916109327276909280345024175692811283445510797521231721220331409407564807168230384468176942405812817310624525121840385446744443868889563289706427719939300365865529242495144888321833894158323756200092849226089461110385787540779132654409185831255860504316472846036364908238500078268116724689002106891044880894853471921527088201197650061259448583977618746693012787452335047965869945140544352170538037327032402834008159261693483647994727160945768940072431686625688866030658324868306061250176433564697324072528745672177336948242366753233417556818392219546938204560720202538843712268268448586361942128751395665874453900680147479758139717481147704392488266886671292379541285558418744606657296304926586001793382725791100208812287673612006034789731201688939975743537276539989692230927982557016660679726989062369216287647728379155260864643891615705346169567037448405029752790940875872989684235165316260908983893514490200568512210790489667188789433092320719785756398772086212370409401269127676106581410793787580434036114254547441805771508552049371634609025127325512605396392214570059772472666763440181556475095153967113514875460624794445927790555554213627225045757069109493760 years in 40k.

Is that really worth it? Keep in mind, you could just do some cool shit and get a chapter that way.

>>49732655
>Everything is possible when it comes to Kerbals.

No, it's not. Stop spouting memes.

>>49732656
It's generally "ruled by common sense" since multi-slot companions only come in certain jumps, and most of us who do use them in jumpmaking aren't in the position to say how CP/perks work with them

>>49732609
That's for perks, anon. Not backgrounds.

Even a baseline space marine is pretty powerful, and has a past as well. And with mass telepathy, they're essentially just bodies that I need.

>>49732714
It is 600 cp to import ALL your companions as whatever origin you want anon.

>>49732714
>Stop spouting memes.
Stop taking memes seriously, I was making fun of kerbals anon.

>>49732729
Space marine implantation is a perk that comes free to a background, nothing more.

>>49732746
Sorry famalam. These days, you can never know.

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Anno 2070 Jump 010:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Who Gave You This Number? [+100]
Hell Hath No Fury Like A Scientist Scorned [+200]
Shoot Down the Rising Star [+200]
Hector Hates You [+200]
I Can't Do That, Dave [+300]
Faction: Independent [Free]
Ark: Kerykeion [Free]
Technologies:
Eco [-200]
E.T.O. [Free]
Perks:
O Captain My Captain [Free]
Simulation Training [Free]
A Moving Reef [Free]
You Solve Practical Problems [-200]
Reusable Resources [-200]
Engineered Biosphere [-400]
Artificial Alloy [-600]
Dedicated Philosophy (Community & Personal Progress) [-100]
Unified Front [-300]

So, I have one hell of a time during this one. It seems the entire S.A.A.T. and their crazy robot brainchild has decided that I'm not worth having for various reasons and are gunning for me from the word start. Thankfully I have some seriously out of context skills with my knowledge of Magic, Spiritual Energy, Chi, Life Shaping, Hamon, Spin, and Stands to surprise people with. Various projects start immediately as I create a barrier around my new ship and the island I'd found. It'd hold up to an army of demons, though I don't know if it'll hold up to a nuke so I also threw out the magical equivalent to a giant camo net, not something that will fool anyone seeing it with their own eyes but it'd fool anything using a satellite or something like radar to find me.
Projects:
1. Geneforging a few small sea fairing creatures who have reused assets from a gold fish and a couple of monster fish that I had fought long ago whilst still an Active Hero, I still had a few parts left when I'd gotten the Pixel tech from Kid Radd and they may be expensive but that shit is awesome when you want to whip out a Leviathan out of no where. Loyalty set deep in their DNA, a simple and common practice that I never skimped on, I had a set of guardians who wouldn't be expected.
2. Making guns that work under the principles of the Spin, just to see if it is possible.
(Continued)

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>>49732773
(Continued)
3. See what a civilization built on the principles of personal and community progress can do with Hamon, Chi, Magic, and the local high tech stuff.
4. Experiment with various big spells, we have a large section of the local water ways marked off so that I can do that.
5. Using the Ark as a base start work on a personal version of the EXTERIOR project using both the Geneforge and my research from my time in Railgun. Fail-safes a plenty.
6. Research into how Eco tech benefits the world it's around, this stuff if cool in all sorts of ways.
7. Make a better Food Substitute that runs of Krill, could be useful to have.
8. Research animals that I noted could channel Hamon and get a better understanding of how to get 100% Hamon channeling cloth.
9. Seal away the two remaining Shikon Jewel Shards for now.

Just a few things I'm going to be doing in the background.

>>49731207
>Day five hundred and seventy-one
Vassalion officially started their holy war against me today. They're marching towards the jail I was originally in, and basically wiping out everything that is even a little dark.

>Day five hundred and seventy-three
So far they've killed five wannabe demon lords, two starscreams, eight dragons - the second in command, not the actually dragon - and two bonafide demon lords.

Still haven't thought to look up.

>Day five hundred and eighty
The last members of the march left the city today. There's four parts, one each to the compass points. They're trying to wipe out basically every pocket of evil. Its going... Well, its going.

>Day five hundred and eighty-one
Delenox IV dropped onto Vassil - the city in which Vassilion is based - today. Place was basically wiped off the map. Made sure to pillage, then burn though, so its all good.

Also, the Delenox V is prepped for drop, just in case.

>Day six hundred
Holy shit, I think I might actually be trying to take over the world. Were they right about me?

...

Nah, this is self defense - they started it.

If I purchased 'Hero of a Thousand Faces' from Negima, and fused it with another weapon, would it merely add that weapon to its "database" or apply the properties to all of its forms (where applicable, so no absurd sharpness on a boxing glove)?

>>49733063
Likely depend on how you fused them.

I'm... pretty much done writing about Hero Union.

So, next jump. Asked for tosses last thread, and the one's i'm thinking about are Danmachi, Harvest Moon, and Zelda Minish Cap.

Preferences?

>>49733079
Either Armfusion from Aion or that Shopkeeper perk from Recettear.

>>49733087
Zelda Minish Cap, because I'm kinda bias.

>>49733109
In that case, you have to do custom robo soon.

>>49731622
I support that artist on patreon.

>>49733102
Likely apply the properties to all of its forms.

>>49733102
Probably just add the weapon to the database then.

>>49733126
Eh, sure... does Rahu,capstone work with Limit Mode? Just asking.

>>49731545
>I was planning to do a ... jump
Can I say something about your jumps?
They all have been bad because you don't even bother to try pricing perks correctly like everyone else.
As in you seem ignorant of how to count.
We have 1,000 CP
In the beginning that was to buy an background, and a 300 and 600 CP perks (100 CP one was free) so about 500 CP for a perk line of related perks to make a complete background.
Then is was a Background (usually free)
and 100, 200,400,600 CP perks, with again 100 CP being free.
So 600 CP for a perk line, and but there are perk line items now and companions imports you need to buy.

But you, are in la la land.
Just, look at what you are doing in ALL your jumps.
150 Backgrounds for no reason.
100 CP Perk (not free)
200 CP Perk
400 CP Perk
600 CP Perk
EIGHT HUNDRED CP PERK.
150+50+100+200+300+400 CP=1,200 CP just for one perk line.
And this does not include the items you just slap on.
Add on another 1,050 items for a lines discounted perk line, and there is not even enough points.

The problem is your 800 CP Perks and Items. Frankly, they suck. You do not seem to put any effort into pricing, either in making sure a full background fits into 1,000 CP, or into making sure the 800 CP backgrounds are actually worth 800 CP.

You come off as a self indulgent elitist off in his own little world dropping in every so often to have fun shitting all over everyone else's work and not even noticing.
If you just have to have that 5th perk or whatever, make the pricing scheme 50 CP. 100 CP, 200 CP. 400 CP, 600 CP like others have done.

>>49733102
So, Aion has Armfusion. Recettear has that Shopkeeper perk. SBURB has alchemization. King Arthur has the "enchant a weapon to absorb other weapons" option. I'm assuming I'm missing quite a few fusion options out there.

>>49733201
Dark Cloud and Team Fortress 2 also have options that could probably do that as well.

>>49733016
This is very amusing stuff. Good story Blade!

>>49733172
Normally I'd make a post about how blatant attacks won't solve anything, but I find myself agreeing with you at least in some ways.
There was always something about his jumps that I couldn't put my finger on that I just didn't like. Reading them feels like a chore since shit is all over the place.
Now that I think about it. The pricing isn't the only issue it's how disjointed everything is. There's so much to go through and a lot of it isn't interesting or thematic enough to deserve a perk slot.
It's almost like the shotgun effect

>>49733250
It's true that a lot of the stuff I do isn't interesting or powerful, though I like to keep that stuff to the lower price ranges specifically due to that.

I've always asked for and welcomed feedback. If you see this again in future jumps, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me specifically what perks/items need revision.

>>49733164
Limit mode? Not sure i'm familiar with that. Is that the one that locks away your powers from kid rad? If it is, it should work fine.

>>49733214
My continuing story of being hunted by the church, only for me to throw rocks at them when i think they're not looking.

>>49733201
Duct Tape Fusion from Invader Zim, if you don't mind functional-but-ugly.

>>49733277
Why are you making perks that you yourself know aren't interesting or powerful? What sort of process do you have for deciding on perks, exactly?

>>49733284
Yeah and cool.

>>49733316
The low-level perks aren't meant to be powerful because, well, they're cheap. Cheap perks shouldn't be all that powerful.

>>49733331
That doesn't necessarily follow. Plenty of jumps have 100 CP perks, free with their backgrounds, that are crazy powerful, or at least crazy useful. And even if it did, then those perks should be interesting, or at least useful in some meaningful way.

Even a 100 CP perk represents 1/10th of your total buying power. It should be good enough to warrant that investment.

>>49733364
>Plenty of jumps have crazy powerful 100cp perks
Here's a tip anon, that's not a good thing. That's a sign the jump is massively unbalanced.

>>49733373
I respect your completely wrong opinion on the matter.

>>49733384
Care to give any examples then?

>>49733277
The problem is that there's nothing mechanically wrong with them.
A lot are boring since they just don't do anything cool. Or in the worst case they don't do much of anything at all.

>>49733331
Just about all of your 800cp perks are boring especially given how much they cost. That's the problem. They aren't interesting. It's just chaff to fill in slots.
Sure the effects might be strong, but it's rarely something cool you can do.
Most of the time it's making something more likely or changing the way people react to you.
Capstones as a general idea are suppost to be "wow inducing" something that's thematic and most importantly something you'd want. They should never ever be boring.

>>49733364
And I try to make them good enough to warrant 1/10th of one's buying power. "crazy useful", to me, sounds like more of a 400 CP affair, or a 200 CP affair with a limited context.

>>49733364
>>49733373
For what it's worth, I think more emphasis should be put on the meaningful usefulness/interesting parts and less on the raw "power", and also that this is one of those things that depends on the setting a lot of the time

>>49733396
This really seems like an issue of personal taste, especially as to whether you find his stuff 'cool' or not.. I find his perks, especially the highest cost ones, to generally be stuff that hasn't been done to death in previous jumps or isn't just some really strong in setting ability.

>>49733389
Infamous? S&S? Baten Kaitos? I dunno, are those considered 'balanced'?

>>49733415
So is novelty more important than usefulness or balance?

>>49733396
>They should never ever be boring.

Alright, random example time:

The San'Shyuum capstone perk from the Halo covenant jump allows one to create an alliance of nearly any 2 alien races, capable of incorporating any other alien race that it beats in military combat. I have a hard time seeing how that's boring, especially when applied to settings, like, say, 40k.

Whatever the case, I'm done commenting on this for now because every time I talk the thread goes to shit. In future jumps, raise your objections when I post the WIPs.

>>49733418
>Infamous
The jump known for having very unbalanced perks given how poorly the higher cost stuff compares to 100cp stuff? Or it being the second jump ever?

>S&S and Baten Kaitos
Can you point out exactly which ones are crazy powerful here rather then referring to the entire jump? Remember they must be 100cp too.

>>49733415
That's why I don't usually complain about it.
It's just so dull to read "people don't disagree with you on the world stage" Compared to "Your debate acumen is of legend. You could convince even the most stubborn of the merit of your ideas, implementing them further is a breeze.

The difference being that one says a thing the other says how. That's what bothers me.

>>49733461
No. I'm not that invested in this conversation. Let's move on.

>>49733373
You're assuming all perks need to scale Weak > Strong. The nature of a setting could be such that perks would need to go Strong > Stronger. Or the ability given by a freebie could be so central to the setting and the way things work that offering it as anything more is effectively the same as arbitrarily reducing the amount of CP the Jumper gets.

Or, more importantly, the perk could be useful or interesting regardless of its actual objective power like he said. If a lower-tier perk is deliberately shit, no one is going to actually buy it and just save CP for the good stuff. The latter already portion already happens regardless of the merits the cheaper stuff has, and frankly that's not something you can really stop without getting perk tree-wide synergy going, but the common presence of a whole new tier beyond normal capstones in Cena's jumps makes it even more attractive.

Anyway, I do have a problem with Cena's jumps just having this... feeling of jank (like eurojank games, I'm not literally calling his stuff trash), but I can't put it in terms he could actually do something with, so RIP me.

>>49733439
Not at all. I'm saying that they are useful in addition to not being something done to death or 'boring' as you claimed was the problem. Please don't try to swap around the goalposts here.

>>49733469
So the majority of our jumps bother you then? Because most jumps are more like the former. If anything, Cena's jumps usually have more detail then not (Save things like WWE but I think we can all agree how garbage that was). His Victoria and EvW jumps are actually much more wordy (Certainly more then you're painting them as) then most jumps which go far closer to the dullness you're complaining of.

Certainly seems like a huge stretch to suddenly complain about his jumps in this manner when say, we had Custom Robo having yet another extra life perk as a capstone. Where were you then?

>>49733458
That's boring because it doesn't do anything but fiat your way though politics. It doesn't give skill, abilities, or do something you couldn't already.
It just changes how people behave towards your organization.

I do object when you post wips, not to this because there's more important things to complain about than personal taste and because it takes forever to read through them.

>>49733507
Not wordiness. That's not my problem. It's how the perks work that bothers me.
Making you better at something is a lot different than making people jsut fiat behave differently to you.

Extra lives are getting oversaturated I agree, but I don't see the problem with them.

>>49733490
Well, like I've said. Please give me examples. I've had someone say Infamous, something infamous for how broken it's early perks are and how bad it's later stuff is. Then they've quoted two jumps at me and expected me to find the examples for them. If you can show me a good number of jumps with 'crazy powerful' 100cp powers then yeah, I'll admit you have a point. But it has to be a good number to prove you're not just looking for an excuse to rag on Cena (Which is very tempting but still wrong). Otherwise you're really just picking on this guy for no reason.

>>49733277
>If you see this again in future jumps, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me specifically what perks/items need revision.
Like all of your 800 CP perks, and even the concept of 800 CP perks in the jumps you are making.

Look at the Shadows of Mordor Jump CCDT made. It has one 800 CP perk in it, that replaces that backgrounds 600 CP perk so everything stays affordable, and is basically all the Wraith stuff in that game.
Or the 800 CP Perks in Touhou.(which does not have a 600 CP limit for basic math reasons)
800 Perks should NOT be a regular thing like you are doing. They should go above and beyond, which yours do not. The only reason yours are 800 CP is because you have adopted an irregular 100/200/400/600/800 pricing scheme for some ungodly reason. For Wrestling and historical shit jumps no less. When 800 CP is the realm of Omega level X-men powers and stuff.

ALL your perks seems to need to drop a level so your jumps are mathematically plausible and in line with all the other jumps pricing. They do not need 800 CP perks or items in them at all.

>>49733490
That last sentence sums up my feelings exactly.
I really wish I knew how to explain it better to help, but I'm unfortunately a shit at criticism.

>>49733557
And I find just giving you skills to be boring too anon. Why should I pay precious, extremely limited cp when I could just work on that in my eons long chain? At a certain point making me more skilled at something is pointless because I've hit a point where the perk gives so little relatively that my cp purchase gets me effectively nothing. Personal differences are key here, great that you've admitted that's your entire basis though.

You're the one who said Cena's perks were bad for being boring yet Extra Lives done a dozen+ times isn't boring?

>>49733602
Touhou gets a lot of shit for being literally nothing but a powergrab, but those 800 CP powers are fucking worth 800 CP.

>>49733602
>historical shit jumps
To clarify, 'Historical shit' as an expression, not saying that historical jumps are bad.

>>49733645
Use those hyphens, anon! Historical shit-jumps. Historical-shit jumps.

>>49733602
You realise your argument is pretty much entirely predicated on inter jump balance? Here, let me refer you back to a post ON YOUR SIDE. >>49733490

Anon here makes the great point that perks differe in power in different settings, despite being the same price. Yet so much of your criticism is because it's 'historical shit' and '800cp should be omega level x men powers'. Inter jump balance is not a thing. If that's all you can argue, stop arguing.

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>>49733666
Why is Satan telling people to stop arguing?

I'm sorry, I'm under contract to post this every time I see a post with the 666 number

>>49733172
>>49733250
The fuck are you smoking? 800-tier perks and non-free backgrounds are both not new things. Why single him out over it?

>>49733631
Repetition is a different kind of boring than zoning out reading though Cenas perks.
I don't even do that reading through some of the doorstoppers on the drive.
I'm not even trying to attack the guy or anything, but there's just something about the way he writes.

Perhaps boring isn't the right word. Would lame suffice? Either way "it just werks" skill perks are just not interesting to me.
Perks that are nothing but mundane skills aren't interesting on their own, I agree but the thing is they're better than perks that just magically make the end result happen for no reason.

>>49733707
This. The entire thing feels like people going after Cena for any reason they can justify, or not in some cases with people admitting they don't even know what they're complaining about.

There's a general "methodology" that I tend to apply when making jumps, and it's up to you whether you want to follow it or not.

The core design structure is simple, you have backgrounds, and a standard array of perks. You start off by creating an overflow table of perks so that you have a large pool to draw perks from. You arrange them accordingly so that each background has an "identity" and the perks will align with one another. The actual pricing process can come afterwards.

Perks don't need to be in terms of strength. Perks can be in terms of flexibility. A more applicable perk is worth more than a perk than gives "Flat X". But this is a matter of opinion and methodology. At this point of the process you don't even need to have the fluff ready, though it'd be nice.

A 1/2/4/6 structure works well because it is common. This makes it a solid backbone from where you can expand. Do you want to use Capstone Boosters? Do you want to have sub locked perk modifiers? Do you want to use Package Perks? Do you want Isolated Perk Lines? Only after the skeleton is complete should you begin experimentation.

Make things "affordable" on the basis that people have 1000 CP. Then add in extra perks according to how high the max CP can be. This is baiting, and it can be used effectively to draw people in. This is where the importance of drawbacks come into play, as a risk versus reward scenario.

This is, in my opinion of course, the basics of perk organization. But it isn't really the end all be all of a jump. When you start considering your audience (the jumper), there's a lot more room for flexibility and expansion. Expansion to cater to companion jumpers for instance, or item based jumpers. In the end you have to weight out "how much effort do I care to put in" when you're considering this. Maybe perks are the only things you feel are important. Having the answers to those sort of questions helps as far as designing your jump goes.

Anyways, it's just my 2 cents.

>>49733727
I think that's all it really is, them trolling him because they have nothing better to do before going to sleep and school in the morning.

>>49733740
Oh piss off with your school bullshit man, you're as bad as they are.

>>49733587
I'd just like to say, I was just adding on what seemed to be that guy's point... which is fucking pointless considering what he said while I was writing but whatever.

Let's look at... Proper Posture from Warframe. Yeah, yeah, niche as fuck. I'm building for that jump right now so it's the first thing that came to mind. Gives you the stamina and discipline needed to be the improbable hitman who waits long times to kill their mark, which fits the later Death Mark Capstone based around assassination. Together with the freebies and later scavenging perk, it also helps out in playing the video game merchant who stands around for hours part, but that's only slightly thematic and takes a specific type of goober to be entertaining.

...I could try and keep going, but frankly, I don't really have a dog in this. My problem is as I said: a vague sense of unease when reading his perks that sours the jump, even if I like what I'm seeing in general.

>>49733731
>Perks don't need to be in terms of strength. Perks can be in terms of flexibility.
My personal opinion is based on a question.
"What is the appropriate price of this perk, based on the thematics of the setting? It's why some jumps being at Peak Human Ability is a 100 perk, because it's common as hell, and in others it should be a capstone, because that's how it works in that specific setting. Actual power/flexibility of the perks doesn't matter as much as the thematics of the setting, though power should be taken into account.

But 800 Perks should be reserved for special occasions, rare jumps that have something just that potent to offer.

>>49733458
Oh fuck off Cena you barely listen to objections regardless.
If you did you we might actually have a servicable WWE jump.

>>49733791
I think of it like this. "Would this perk alone be enough to justify this entire jump by itself?" Because 800 out of 1000 is kind of a fucking big deal.

>>49733766
I am. "I don't like 800 tier perks because they're non-standard!" despite them being done before. And complaining about backgrounds with a cost? That WAS standard for a long time, and it's still not unusual.

>>49733766
Yes, I am. I'm one of the two (Or three perhaps) people responding to complaints. And I've seen multiple people's arguments boil down to "I dunno what I have a problem with, I just generally don't like his jumps." That makes me more then a bit suspicious that the reason people react this way is because of Cena's past actions in thread where he becomes a weeping asshole to people with his smugness. I have the same reaction to Teratophilia's works for instance, I'm sure people do to mib's jumps as well. What arguments don't boil down to vague dislike generally seem predicated on inter jump balance type deals (Not even good ones either given the counter examples that can be brought from over 600 jumps and all).

So yeah, I've got a good amount of reason to believe people are just going after the guy for no reason given the reasons are "I don't know" "But this other jump doesn't do that" and "Fuck you."

>>49733811
And discounts?

>>49733841
You're doing yourself zero favors here if this is the only kind of response you can muster. You're just justifying everything being said about you.

>>49733873
Considering it's one comment chain and you're making the exact same kind of reply each time, I'd be willing to bet you're one person, yes.

>>49733666
>You realise your argument is pretty much entirely predicated on inter jump balance?
This is not about inter jump balance, it is about pricing 400 or 600 cp perks as 800 cp perks, when they are not.

It is about keeping the jump in the same format as the others. Bitching at the guy who wanted to make the jump use FP was not about it either.

This is not about balance, it is about numbers.

Also, the RNG agrees with me that you are in the wrong here, satan!

>>49733838
Then it becomes "Would this perk alone be enough to justify this entire jump by itself for 75% of jumpers?"

(or whatever ratio based on the jump's number of origin choices)

>>49733791
In this case it's merely a matter of reflecting the setting authentically, and honestly, if the jumpmaker isn't designing the perks intentionally so they "grab" people, but rather just to reflect what the setting has to offer, this generally isn't a problem.

In the case where settings are inconsistent, or have singular instances of extreme power, there are still ways to handle it.

The choice of using 800s, or any other denominator for that instance, is generally a stylistic one that boils down to "Do you believe that there should be something made very hard to attain, and if so, why and how much?"

Personally I've used higher denominations, with very specific builds in mind as part of experimentation for myself. The process of crosschecking your jumps afterwards (by building jumpers yourself using your jump, with each background multiple times) generally tells me enough about what's feasible and what isn't.

That last point is generally one that very few people are in "agreement" over, because ultimately it's a value question. Some people believe that everything in the jump should be affordable prior to drawbacks, some people don't. But the process of experimentation demands that an attempt is made regardless, and the conclusions afterwards can decide whether it is fitting or not.

Full disclaimer in any case, I make my jumps so I can jump them, and I tend to run several "test" jumpers, so my process is sometimes far more complex than other people and my jumps reflect it. It isn't for "everyone", it's for "me", first and foremost. Afterwards when it's made public changes can be tailored in.

And that really brings us full circle, where the jumpmaker should ask himself "What and who are you making this for?"

Where's the best jump to get a really, really good seafood recipe and ingredients from? Been hankering for some seafood for a while and only just realised it.

>>49733943
Toriko.

>>49733896
>This is not about inter jump balance
Then why are you criticising it for things like having 800cp perks in 'historical shit' as if only high power settings can have them or saying that 800cp perks should be things like Omega level mutant powers? A power can be worth 800cp in a lower powered setting if it is still comparatively good within that setting. Plenty of the 800cp perks in these jumps (Excluding Wrestling) are just fine to me. Some I think can only be 800cp, like the spy agency.

Other jumps have had 800cp perks, this is nothing new. Rome jump had perks in a different style just like FP too and that's accepted. There were many reasons for people getting angry at that Mage jump and FP was just one, not all and not one of the best either. And honestly, this 'all jumps must be the same format' is just ridiculous when people heap praise on many of Dirge's jumps despite having many, many new formats and mechanics in them that no other jump has.

Your numbers then, are contradictory and false.

It's happened twice this thread already. Am I secretly possessed or something?

>>49733955
Ignore the spoiler. I'm getting mixed up over multiple tabs. On the bright side, I've been satan thrice today, not twice. Just not in this thread. Bwuuuuh.

>>49733950
Any outstanding examples?

>>49733641
At least 2 of them are.

>>49733981
http://toriko.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fish_Beast

Literally everything on this wiki list. Every. Thing. Obviously the highlights are the stuff on the first page, especially near the top.

>>49733943
Spongebob.

>>49733996
>ANOTHER

Why is it apparently physically impossible to eat this thing without eating monkey balls?

>>49734022
Maaaaaaagic.

You need to eat PAIR to gain an ability to go to the afterlife/spirit world in order to catch or cook (Can't remember which) ANOTHER.

>>49734036
So you don't have to if you can already travel to the afterlife under your own power? Because I'm definitely hankering for seafood, not, well. Monkey balls.

>>49734022
It's not, it's impossible to travel to the spirit world where ANOTHER is without eating the testicles. If someone however prepared ANOTHER for you and brought it to you in the physical world it shouldn't be a problem to eat.

>>49733989
Which ones do you think aren't worth 800cp it?
They all seem sufficiently op to me.

>>49733955
>Dirge's jumps despite having many, many new formats and mechanics in them that no other jump has.

I said this in IRC, but I'll say it here. It should be pretty easy to identify what I've said in this thread so far. My design philosophy is erratically different from many jumpmakers. There are many who cater to a very wide audience, and I respect them for that, but I'm not a great jumpmaker, so the audience that I cater to is rather small. There are people that appreciate my jumps that I didn't expect, and of course, I'm thankful to them for that.

But the small audience scope is also why I have a sort of "freedom" as far as trying out new things goes. Synthesis items, companion expansions, Tarot Drawbacks, Scenarios - down to different scenario management formats. I have a small group of folks who tell me generally "This is shit" or "This is ok", and they're the folks who make experimentation possible.

I don't want anyone to be under the impression that this is good behavior to emulate. If the jumpmaker is targeting a specific audience, they need to know what that audience wants. Not everyone wants fuckhuge jumps. Not everyone wants to read stories. Not everyone wants new ways to spend CP.

Know what your audience wants, know what makes them happy, and then do that if you want your audience to be happy. If you do introduce new systems, at least try to make it easy to grasp, make it so that it isn't a complete headache to wrap your head around them.

>>49734047
Pretty sure that should work. You'll probably want to eat the monkey ball soup anyway given how it's apparently amazing tasting. In Acacia's Full Course after all.

>>49734053
>Know what your audience wants

What's that Ford quote about faster horses?

>>49734064
Don't know about him, but I don't care how it tastes. It's made out of testicles, I'm not eating it.

>>49734053
I'm aware of what you've intended, that wasn't really relevant to the point I've tried to make. Sorry if it seems a bit cold but what you personally intend doesn't really matter for this example. Your jumps receive widespread acclaim in spite of using differing formats, which I used to demonstrate how flawed and plain incorrect anon's argument that 'any deviation is wrong and should be put down', since we've seen large deviations from the formula in the past ad had them be well known successes (Even if perhaps not for the specific deviations in those jumps, it's still not bad because of them).

>>49734073
'If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.' Though most of the results for Google search I found it with were variations of "Did he actually say it?"

>>49734076
Well technically it's actually made out of what's inside the testicles, given it's made into soup. Yes this does mean it's basically monkey semen soup.

>>49734093
Sometimes it's not really so important that the actually said it as what the quote means you know?

>>49734064
I have nothing against eating testicles in principle, but I am currently in the mood for seafood alone. I'll still take that into consideration as a side dish, though.

>>49734049
Can't I just magically open a portal there? Or light an eldritch lanturn as per Bloodborne? Or is it a specific part of the spirit world that needs to be opened by eating the monkey testicles rather than the afterlife proper?

>>49734053
>you
>not a great jumpmaker
Unorthodox for sure, but you make it work well.
I'd say you're an 8/10 jumpmaker if I was being especially harsh.

>>49734047
Yes, though Pair was originally a super nutritious soup that welled up from the earth, the monkeys just ate it all and Pair then became part of them. If you do want to eat Pair without eating testicles then I suggest you get a really good time machine.
>>49734107
It is just the afterlife such as it exists in Toriko.

>>49734097
Obviously that makes it worse.

>>49734097
>spoiler
Are you sure it's not broth? Or just has chunks of meat like stew/chili/other soups?

>>49734156
More likely but this version is way more fun for grossing people out.

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>>49734149
It swaps your gender when you drink it too.
>>49734156
It drips out of the testicles at a really slow rate, if you prepare it properly it takes a month and produces a great deal, or if you poke it in the right spot it basically explodes spraying everywhere. It's also entirely liquid.

>>49734052
I think it's more about versatility than power, with Lunar Dial and maybe Scarlet Destiny being much more versatile than the other ones.

>>49734091
No, I didn't explain myself properly (and I misunderstood your point), so that's my fault. I described my "personal intentions" because I was trying to highlight that my works and myself are essentially anomalies as far as /jc/ goes, and shouldn't be considered a norm to any degree. There are better examples.

I do agree with your sentiment, but I think that in order for a "concept" to cement itself, it needs to be done consistently. It's like scenarios for example. Babylon started the whole concept with LoT, but for a long time nobody else really followed suit. Even when I was doing scenarios regularly back in the day, there weren't that many people that did it alongside. Perhaps that is indicative of an inherent adversity to change, I dunno.

>>49734109
I appreciate that, though in my opinion that's really only because there aren't that many of us...which is something that makes me a bit sad. Coming back and seeing new blood was really nice, but there really still isn't that many of us.

It's probably not that relevant...but having more jumpmakers around is in some ways, key to innovation. There were a lot of conceptual ideas that I would have never tried without people like Red and Babylon around, and others as well.

>>49734202
So how is this not a lewd jump?
/joke

>>49734202
That's the happiest I've ever seen anyone being sprayed with semen outside of hentai.

>>49734217
Well, again, my point wasn't about any norms or cemented concepts. It was just proving that we have had jumps be different from the majority and not only be accepted, but well received. If anything, what you seem dedicated to pointing out any time someone even mentions your work, that it should never be taken as the norm and shouldn't be taken as an example, makes it perfect for this argument since it is so far off from the norm.

Allright /jc/ question time.
Where can I get teleportation that doesn't require line of sight or me having been there before. Preferably without somatic/verbal/ or any other kind of spell components.
I wanna go full Zelda cartoon Ganon on some punks.

>>49734274
Samurai Jack's technically requires line of sight, but any realtime way of seeing the location works.

>>49734274
There's a spaceship in Kirby that opens portals to anywhere in the universe you're currently in but you're probably looking for personal teleporting.

>>49734274
I.M. Meen has short distances covered but it's on a cooldown.
Raildex Esper Teleporters could probably do it too it's just difficult and has cooldowns for longer distances.
Marvel Teleportation could probably do it best though especially if you combo the shit out of it.

>>49734274
Well Railgun would just require you know the coordinates, the Marvel jump doesn't note any need for anything but a bit of time. There is another I can think of that I can't really suggest, Psykers in 40k can rip open portals through the warp to teleport themselves, but it's a terrible way to do things because warp.

>>49734329
Kirby does however have Royal Magic teleportation which can let you teleport so fast you have after images that may or may not still be physical.

>>49734294
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>>49734340
>>49734346
>>49734352
Thanks everyone. I'll have to look into these.
Operation never walk again is proceeding smoothly.

>>49734274
Greater Teleport from D&D 3.5. It just works.

What are good ways to improve the longevity of my companions?

Anyone thought of doing a Pirate Chain? Starting with jumps that allow for "Normal" Piracy, and getting crazier as the jumps go on. Hitting Space Piracy in sci-fi settings before they just start going to "normal" jumps.

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>>49734434
Give everyone cool equipment

>>49734434
Don't worry about it since they respawn?
If you aren't going that route Sims can help them live longer with alchemy.

>>49734434
Steal the Philosopher's Stone from Harry Potter

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>>49734434
Wait I got it.
FUSE PEOPLE
TO VEHICLES

ITS THE GREATEST AND NOT THE DUMBEST

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>>49734527
Love Combo is better

>>49734434
Turn them into robots, then dragons, then ghosts.

>>49734434
Import them into a setting so their age resets.

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Custom Robo Jump 011:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Shiny Shiny Shiny [+100]
Mission List [+200]
Grudge Match [+300]
Origin: Drop-in + Custom Robo + Rahu [-500]
Perks:
EXPRESSIONS [Free]
Test Fight [Free]
Ranged Hacking [Free]
Cube Mode [Free]
Down, Rebirth [-200]
Adaptive Evolution [-300]
Other Robos, Other Parts [-600]
Items:
1100 [Free]
Auto Closet [Free]
Parts Machine [Free]

This is a really rather neat world I've found myself in. Ranma immediately starts his usual quackery by stealing me (!!!) and then hitting the underground circuits. He would toss me at the people who were using really out there or cutting edge illegal parts and kept calling it a Training Journey (Dammit Ranma I hate that phrase because of Pops and you know it!). I felt bad when I burst his bubble about this being just a happy go lucky world we could vacation in, since it was an apocalypse and all. He buckled down with the other Companions and worked out a deal with the local police and together we fought crime, and I got my ass handed to me by the original Rahu itself at one point which was something.

>>49734440
Yoro had a pirate jumper in days past

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Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>49734599
Rahu was a demon on the battlefield. A walking weapon of ruin which had brought the human race to its knees in this world. I could see it adapting just as fast, if not faster, than me as I learned how to be a proper Rahu from it it learned to use outside the box tactics. It managed to Hit me and as I fell it dropped a Grand Cross Bomb on me as well as emptying it's pods.
I was Down in an instant, but I broke my Limit Mode and roared out of the dust like a beast, which in truth I looked like as I'm told. I totally abandoned weapons and in an instant I was on the terror of that world with all the skill I could layer into my blows from ages of training in the martial arts. In that shining moment I dominated the Rahu using my sheer martial arts skill. It felt good.

>>49734757
Low rolls are good, right? That means with that 14, you kept the ball rolling. Just remember to make sure that thing STAYS down, or it will come back resistant to your techniques.

>>49734773
Yep it's really good.

>>49734757
I didn't stop at the first Hit. Nor the second or third. Hell I knew how this thing functioned, was akin to it myself, so I varied my attacks as little as possible. Roasting Chestnuts on an Open Fire was a technique that could allow a human to punch so fast that what was seemingly one single strike was five hundred and the only adaptation this beast would be getting from me would be a resistance to being punched to death. My arms, limited by artificial alloy and synthetic design, cracked as I didn't stop once the Rahu was Down the onslaught of blows causing servos to whine eerily even as the limbs met their limits and were forced to exceed them. I couldn't 'feel' as the limbs malformed under the forces I was putting them through but by the time I was unable to lift my fists they'd become misshapen, with horrid twists mid-forearm and backwards bends near the shoulder. Rahu was barely even in any shape at all I'd buried it under so many blows for so long that it's head and some of it's torso were just shattered into seven pieces.
Ranma was buying me some time, so I readied my trump card. While my power Remote Hacking couldn't allow me to 'steal' Rahu I could touch its programming with that power before activating the hacking skills I'd long honed on the servers of Academy City. Rahu fought the initial hack off well, for a simple AI with absolutely no programming in such defenses beyond having a sturdy firewall, however as I crashed through it and took direct control over its adapting code it lost ground with astounding swiftness. It wasn't truly sentient, merely a learning program and orders, so I felt no sorrow as I burned the data feed from the inside out starting with the adaptive software and moving out from there.

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>>49733126
Done and done. Got a quick question now though.
If we can produce more Custom Robos can we teach others how to Dive in other worlds?

>>49734971
Slow night. Kinda intreasted in that as well now that you say that.

Also what would happen if you went to Medabots with that tech. Would it just be as strong as usual or would it be like what's in the Upscaling Perk?

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So I was thinking about an earlier discussion about rewiring a high quality Vault of Woven Dreams to do a Reality Engine's job-the reason to do this way being to take advantage of the Elsewhere space within to keep the generated reality relatively pristine during the creation process. Idea for the current system is:

I will start by accessing my Gunnerkrigg Court otherworld as the crafting area, because it's easier to take actions which require /controlled/ distortions of reality there if that ship who wanted to gain a body to date a giant crustacean through was any indication. Gathering the Ring/Way graces from the Unshaped/Hannya bordering Creation, I'll supplement conventional Craft: Glamour techniques with trigram alchemy to bind my own Ring grace with the other Ring graces into the center of a massive mobile waypoint-aggregate, and do likewise with the Way graces; each will be to individual Treasures/Chancels as the Realm Defence Grid is to an individual manse. Once these structures are constructed, I'll use Preserve the Land to seal each into artifacts. Depending on their complexity in a miniaturised form and the effects of compressing Wyld energy, I will then either use FMA Alchemy and Knowledge is Numbers to derive a formula to transmute them, or use Sburb-style Alchemization to fuse them with the right punched holes.

I will then create an conceptual sheath to protect this resource outside the jump. Adapting both the Type-Moon True Ancestor forging techniques (Master Craftsman, King Arthur), psychometrically analysing the Moonstone to determine how to crystallise knowledge itself into a vessel and repurposing the Discworld spell Maligree's Wonderful Garden will all be required.

(Cont'd)

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>>49735391
By cannibalising large sections of my own Territory (making sure to chuck a few Protoshinmaic Vortexes into it somewhere else first to stabilise the remainder) and using Memory of Light and Waves to harvest the most Ring-aligned crystalline memories from the Wyld whilst Soulfire-enhanced Flame of Tar'Valon is used as a catalyst, I will first use as reagents for the ritualised variation of the MWG-which be consecrated with blessings from the Shinma Nirupadhika, Nirguna and Nirvishesha, invoked through To Call Forth and attuned with through Virtue powers, thus stabilising the constructed world with the power of existence itself, reinforcing it's identity and aligning its' location to avoid permanent change.

After using Preserve the Land to compress it, I'll use the Dragon Stream to seal it around the borders of the Glamour-construct. Using my Mystic Eyes of Imaginary Numbers and Nothingness as well as the appropriate rank-boosting Noble Phantasm, I will thus mystically fold the artifacts around each other by the impulses of the Wyld energy into a stable conflux manipulated through the Stream, while further isolating the entire artifact in a shadow dimension.

Finally, I'll use Plug 'n Play along with Artificer to build an interface into the Vault's interior to be compatible with such an artifact, and Anartist as well as Guru to modify the hearthstone socket such that it can absorb energy from the interior of a Protoshinmaic Vortex instead of just the corona to cope with processing a vast Wyld continuum in an artificial space. Then I'll just have to figure out how to create an Essence-compliant artifact based on the moonstone to transport generated reality outside of Elsewhere to where it needs to go.

Which just leaves refilling as an issue I'm still trying to figure out, but yeah. Reckon this'll do it?

>>49735391
>>49735400
Fucking hell, ASA, how do you come up with this shit?

Could a Half-Blood in the Harry Potter jump be the child of a Pure-Blood and a Muggle Born?

>>49735417
Yes, that's what Harry is.

>>49735391
>>49735400
I have no idea what this means, but I'm impressed

>>49735407
He's had lots of experience.

>>49735417
Nope, that's a pureblood. Half bloods are the children of one magical parent and one mundane parent. Purebloods are the children of two magical parents. Doesn't really matter the lineage beyond the parents for blood status.

>>49735433
Dude what? Harry, the child of a Pure-Blood and a Muggle Born, is refereed to as a Half-Blood repeatedly throughout the series.
Harry even asks if Tom chose him because "I'm a half-blood like him".

>>49735433
Harry Potter is considered a Half-Blood because he was the son of Pure-Blood James Potter and Muggle Born Lilly Evens.

>>49735428
I know that such a parentage would be considered Half-Blood in the setting, I was asking in context of the jump origins.

>>49735433
>>49735448
Actually, you're BOTH correct. A Half-Blood is the child of a Pure Blood and a Muggle OR a Pure Blood and a Muggle-Born

>>49735482
Huh. My bad.

>>49735476
I honestly don't see why not, you obviously can't benefit from the Muggleborn or Pureblood discounts, but I don't see why you can't make up your backstory of having one Pureblood parent and one Muggleborn.

>>49735482
Once again, what? I know a Half-blood can be born of a muggle, I was annoyed he didn't realize a half-blood can be born from a muggle-born.

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>>49735433
Actually, according to genealogical standards among purebloods in Britain, to be a pureblood a wizard has to have had no muggle blood in their direct ancestry to their grandparent's generation.

Thus the child of a muggleborn and a pureblood is not pureblooded, but their grandchild would be assuming their child marries a pureblood or another child of a pureblood and muggleborn.

>>49735493
I know, I was just stating that you were both correct, linking to both of you because...well, that just seemed like a good idea at the time.

>>49735492
It's a common mistake, I've found. People usually take the term to mean Magical/Muggle rather then it also including Pureblood/Muggle-born.

Man, is it weird that looking back on Harry Potter it becomes less "Magical adventures and good vs evil" and more "People are dicks for stupid reasons, and magic just enhances both qualities for some reason"?

>>49735506
Of course these are just the standards among regular purebloods. The super mega racist purebloods think you're not pureblooded if you have any muggles in your ancestry at all, even centuries ago.

>>49735523
Eh, that happens both as you grow up, and as a series progresses.
I know this series has been harped on before, but as a kid I read Animorphs and thought "adventures and fighting evil, yay!"
I look back on it now? "Child Soldiers fighting a war they should have lost and becoming incredibly traumatized and jaded, holy shit"

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Jump # 102 Slayers
Background: Adventurer (200)
Starting location: Saillune City
Race: Human (0)
Age: 16

Perks:
*Treasure Sense (100, Discount)
*High Bucket Capacity (150, Discount)
*High Pool Capacity (200, Discount)

Magic Lore:
*Basic Spells (0)
*Elemental Specialty – Fire (100)
*Black Magic Specialization (100, Discount)
*Grand Sorcerty (200, Discount)

Equipment
*Cool Cape (0)
*Pentagram Bangle (0)

Drawback:
*Death of the Abominable fiend Anon! (+100)

So… this was a thing. I actually had fun here traveling with my oddball companions and making friends with the main cast. I actually got both Ragna Blade and Giga Slave from Lina by trading her bigger breasts… I think from how she reacted with her new curves she thought she thought she had gotten the best of the deal. Unfortunately as I am still working out how to practice and use my new spells without accidently ending the universe she may be right. It’s a work in process.

I was mostly happy to let the plot progress as it usually did but I may have made a little mistake with Ruby Eye Shabrinigdo. When he to buy everyone some time I nailed him with morning light from King Arthur boosted by all of my holy spell boosting powers. He lost an arm and was greatly displeased so we had to run for our lives as Shabrinigdo chased after something he was sure could kill him.

I eventually had to split off from the group and play tag with him for a few days while everyone else regrouped. I was never so happy to see Lina and the gang once they were ready to fight him.

Lina demanded I teach her the spell I used I couldn’t but strangely Amelia adapted a version of it. Somehow that scares me.

>>49735542
Ravenloft?

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>>49735407
I dunno honestly, I just get bored sometimes?

Anyway-refilling. I think that's the major issue provided nothing else has gone awry. The instability of the secondary function of Plug 'n Play is a dealbreaker when it comes to Essence physics. While Reality Engines can turn CREATION back into Wyld, Creation arose from it and in other jumps the base composition of reality there likely become something else. I'm not sure if the Wyld counts as "energy" enough to apply Universal Adaptor to either, and it'd probably only yield really low quality Wyld. And for me personally-Anartist is a bit of a cop-out because my method's fluffed equal parts from SCP 1714 and the Broken God mythos. That is to say-utterly non-Wyld related.

In the meantime I gotta figure out exactly what my Gaian Bastion's form and function will be. Probably borrow some sort of design from that one manse in Oadenol's Codex that opens into alternate versions of itself, definitely use the other clauses in Gaia's contract and this thing if it works to set up a Realm Defense Grid-like network of manses for further experimentation and mystic processing.

Hmm.

>>49735428
Sorry, to simplify-

I'm going to hack apart a lot of Unshaped for their organs and stitch those organs into one massive magical realm and one portal network into Middlemarches

Then I'll turn both into small objects and fuse them

Then rip off chunks from my own otherworlds to mash up into a protective conceptual gauze like Avalon to wrap them in, which I will sew to the above with leylines and quantified wishful thinking

Then I'll modify the Vault to be able to siphon it to make reality out of chaos and improve the power systems a lot.

>>49735540
Which is stupid when you think about it, Wizards have to have started somewhere, they didn't just pop out of the ground. So the first Wizards were muggleborn.

>>49735542
Well, your filename isn't wrong.

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>>49735391
>>49735400
Dear me... when you say refilling is an issue you mean repairing your Territory right or something to do with your Otherworld?

Anyway now that I'm done with BLADE's request I'll head back on track of my chain.

>>49735542
With that many Jumps I'm just gonna ask did you forget your Name?

>>49735541
Animorphs is weird, because it seems to follow the whole Power Rangers inspired "Teenagers with attitude gain super powers to fight evil aliens" and then brings it to its' logical conclusion. It's kids, fighting an alien empire filled with alien slugs that hijack your body while you are aware of everything that's happening. And the alien slugs aren't the biggest threat. No, that's the cosmic horror that you can't even directly fight. Hell, even in the first book What's-His-Face, the guy who gives them their powers, gets eaten alive. Shit gets dark.

>>49735561
If that means you're taking requests, then on that note, Animorphs!

>>49735557
In a sense, yeah. Not like how modern muggleborns are, though. I think the theory goes that the first wizards were the product of that fine ol' human tradition of xenophilia, with the children of muggles and magical sapients like Veela and such sometimes having magic powers.

Of course, in the same way pureblood wizards are pointlessly hateful of muggles despite coming from them, so too did they mistreat magical races, doing their level best to exterminate, drive out, and marginalize as many of them as they could.

>>49735573
Elfangor, Tobias' dad and Ax's older brother.

>>49735557
>>49735588
>Harry Potter wizards hate monster girls.
What's wrong with them?

>>49735604
Super racist, also they like them when it's convenient.
Like wanting to bone Veela, but then calling them evil succubi to the witches they know.

Also Hagrid's Dad boned a Giant.

>>49735592
That's it, Elfangor-
>Tobias' dad
Wait, seriously? I remember him being related to Ax, but I didn't know he was Tobias' dad. Huh, weird.

>>49735588
Yeah, see, that just further proves the point that Harry Potter wizards, or at least the pureblood ones, are total dicks most of the time, with a few exceptions like Neville.

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>>49735561
Actually I just meant the Wyld artifact the Vault-Engine will be generating reality from. In the setting of Exalted it's a literally beyond-infinite resource but outside there isn't any more I can just shape into reality right? So I need to figure out how to top that up to have more reality to create.

...THEORETICALLY given a Primordial's status as a nigh-limitless source of Essence I could try plumbing the Gaian Bastion for energy to convert into reality but 1. that's never been tested; the closest I can think of being the Gunstar, 2. I'd really prefer not to rely on THE SLUT more than I have to and 3. Primordials shape what they create, and comparing Creation to what little is known about Cemunian's Cajerron all but confirms relying on a single theme results in lower quality craftsmanship.

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>>49735618
>Hagrid's Dad boned a Giant
Truly a hero amongst men.

>>49735620
Right, here's what happened.
There is an alien race, that uses flying sauces, that tends to abduct species, sapient or not.
An Andelite Warship stops one of their ships and finds human cargo, Chapman and Tobias' mom.
Elfangor was a Recruit back then. Adventures happen, including Elfangor driving a car while drinking Dr.Pepper, he falls for Tobias' mom. He willingly becomes a Nothlit and joins her on Earth.
Then Ellimist shows up and tells him "You're needed elsewhere bro, I'm taking you away so you can fight Yeerks, also I'm changing your wife's memories"

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>>49735620
During HIS adventures as a young space cadet or whatever, Elfangor got into a time distortion thingy with a human woman and The Yeerk Eventually To Be Known As Visser 3 because of an artifact called the Time Matrix created by the Ellimist (the good cosmic being). Long story short, after a narrow escape he got sick of the war, decided to live out a human life with her on Earth, mode locked himself into human form, had a kid-but then got convinced by the Ellimist to return at the right point of time and space to stop soon-to-be Visser 3.

His mom had all memory of Elfangor erased by the Ellimist too. Shit gets dark in the Animorphs, yo. The series literally ends with Ax (the Andalite the other kids befriend) assimilated by an eldritch mind controlling entity, which the suriviving Animorphs decide to ram the shit out of

>>49735641
>>49735646
I once wanted to go back and reread the books, including finally finishing the series. Then I learned how dark things went after I stopped reading it.

I'll pass on that.

>>49735555
Personally I think before you set about creating a reality fence, you should expand reality back to its original size. I believe it's said to have lost 90% of its size to the Three Spheres Cataclysm? Then it lost 10% of that reduced amount to the Raksha's Crusade. I think they might've also lost some land during the Usurpation, when the Dragonblooded took over, but I can't recall any specific numbers on that. I know they lost a ton of land the Solars had made out of the Wyld, but that's a different matter.

>>49735654
It's a side book anyway, there are a couple of them.
One for Elfangor, one for Visser 1, one for the Hork-Bajir, and one for The Ellimist's backstory.
The Ellimist's people had the coolest game of all time.

>>49735641
>>49735646
Wow, I completely forgot about all that, though I'm not surprised about the Ellimist being involved. I swear, almost everything is due to either his or Crayak's interference somehow.

Yeah, I remember that thing. Remind me, weren't they riding some ship they named after Rachael when they rammed Ax/the Cosmic Horror's Blade Ship?

>>49735664
I read the Ellimist Chronicles. That game was awesome. His people? Stupid as fuck.

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>>49735677
Oh his people were completely fucking retarded, but they didn't deserve to be screwed over like they were, either time.

>>49735676
Dude just look at this. It's the best part of the book

>>49735548
>>49735561
Huh Peculiar usually the board remembers my name but yeah that's mine.

>>49735640
Sadly Hagrid's mom turned out to be a bitch, because she dumped Hagrid's dad when Hagrid didn't grow to be as big as a true giant, because in giant culture having small children is considered the worst shame.

They're not innately evil or anything like that, but their culture is really nasty about 'runts'.

>>49735686
This would look so fucking weird without context. I mean, it still looks weird as is, but can you imagine showing this to someone who's never read or even heard of the series?

>>49735695
She fucking married a runt she should have known what to expect.

>>49735699
See, there's no shame in marrying a human in and of itself, only in producing a small child with one.

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>>49735695
So if half-giants breed do they make half-giant offspring or do the children skew toward either human or giant ancestry?

>>49735623
>2. I'd really prefer not to rely on THE SLUT more than I have to
Cytherea pls.

Anyway, as bad as Gaia is for betraying her first lover for Luna's bod, you should totally hate Luna more for being the active party in causing the betrayal.

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>>49735676
Not a good idea, not for half a century at least. Because all of the people who could COMPETANTLY manage Creation in its' prime are all either drunk on the cosmic Xbox, dead and omnicidal or irrevocably mutilated and imprisoned. And because Creation currently has a lot more immediate threats that need to be defused before the risk of it blowing up again can be averted. Especially other Exalts.

Actually I'm aiming to leave the responsibility of regrowing Creation to the modern Exalts. It's not a question of trust, mind you-it's a matter of giving them a goal that will a) keep them focused instead of careening into decadence and b) instill a sense of propriety so Deathlords never happen again.

But at the moment, Creation's spiritual and physical worlds are mired in corruption and infighting, it's going to take a lot of social engineering before the world's ready to recover not just living space, but lost concepts and such.

Which as far as I know the First Age Solars never fully managed to restore anyway. Credit where its' due they did push back Creation's boundaries from twice how much it was originally destroyed. But that's still a long way off goal to achieve sustainably.

If the Gunstar Autocthonia Shard's to be believed, Creation used to have SPACE and GALAXIES and stuff instead of being a mere chunk of land 5 times the size of Earth's surface area bounded by the Wyld.

>>49735641
Ellimist confirmed for dick.

>>49735726
>If the Gunstar Autocthonia Shard's to be believed, Creation used to have SPACE and GALAXIES and stuff instead of being a mere chunk of land 5 times the size of Earth's surface area bounded by the Wyld.
Gunstar isn't EXACTLY the same as Old-Creation, from before the war. But it is implied that when the Primordials were defeated SWLiHN outright erased a number of Concepts from Creation, which may have included space-stuff.

>>49735641
>>49735646
It's really no surprise her next book series was just as dark, with humans in a generation ship coming unfrozen when it impacts an alien installation with an artificial envirionment, full of monsters and horrors. Also they've been mutated by the faulty systems leaking radiation, the worst example being one woman's unborn fetus that mutated into a horrible undead, psychic, evil abomination still in her body.

>>49735726
>a) keep them focused instead of careening into decadence
That happened more to the great curse than anything, and it was less decadence and more "went batshit insane"

>b) instill a sense of propriety so Deathlords never happen again.
Happened because of the usurpation, the deathlords wanted revenge on their betrayers.

So the cure is, cure the fucking great curse.

>>49735691
Was worried about you bro, hadn't seen you in a while.

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>>49735732
Ellimist is really more a "greater good" kind of guy.
So yeah he's a total dick.

>>49735718
It's never stated.

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>>49735721
No seriously-would you want slut juice all over everything you make? I mean, intellectually I can conceptualise the appeal for a bunch of typically monolithic and quasi-solipsistic concept aggregates since one of her gimmicks is making thinks synergise together to be better than the sum of their parts, but-it's all overshadowed by her other tastes and lack of standards. It's like knowing what the nice waitress who knows everyone's name at your favourite bar does with the coffee machine at night. The one everybody GETS THEIR DRINKS OUT OF. And also knowing that she likes going for long drives and forgetting about her responsibilities, I guess? The analogy kinda breaks down here but the point is-she's just an awful person.

She had a relationship with an UNSHAPED once. That's practically beastiality.

>Luna

Honestly not sure what to make of that one, other than horrified awe for the craftsmanship.

>>49735760
Should've clarified-I don't mean literally deathlords, I mean hubris and contrivance turning Exalts into complete monsters.

>>49733087
Danmachi

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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>49735623
Ah, how would one go about going full Gunstar? Also is Gunstar worthy of having it's own Jump? Personally I think so but I'd love the Thread's input.

>>49735573
Eh why not?

Animophs Jump 012:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Attractive Host [+100]
Restless Wildlife [+100]
Origin: Drop-In [Free]
Perks:
Morphing [Free]
Two of Your Earth Hours [Free]
Yoink! [-100]
Acquisitive Gaze [-200]
Chimera Morph [-300]
Estreen [-200]
Items:
The Series [Free]
The Cork Board Map [-100]
Escafil Device [-600]

So, people have you ever woken up in a world and the first thing that you do is turn into a miniature robot because no ears? No? Oh must be just me...
Time to call the Ark I know this fucking world and read it as a youth, it's time to go collecting some shit.
First of all lets get a dragon, I still have the hearts blood of that one which is used in the immortality ritual I cast all those years ago, then let's mix that with a Tasmanian Devil for pain tolerance and survivalist traits. Using a base of Cuttlefish DNA I'll also grant it some killer camo. After that I drain my Essence pools to make the mighty beast. Having my companions pin the damned thing down with telekinesis we all get the form and kill the dragon, mostly so I can render the new creature for parts to study later. With one hell of a trump card held back, I hope, we begin to plan, using the cork-board map we hit them hard and fast. EXTERIOR comes online and strategic lightning strikes shatter every source of Kandrona radiation in the city is taken out save one. Cloaked in Hamon enhanced electro-static auras, just to be safe, Misaka and I teleport to the final location and flash boil the pool before taking the last Kandrona radiation source and leaving behind a small monolith, just to fuck with the Yeerks.
I'm going to seen if the Animorphs world works on Novel logic hard enough that inverting the waveform of Kandrona radiation produces a poison for them.

>>49735764
It's alright, It's just been a rough couple of weeks. I have been a bit busy with IRL stuff so I haven't had as much time to be on. I have posted a few times when I could. Hopefully things are getting better.

>>49735726
>>49735745
I'm thinking it might be a good idea to try and reason with SWLiHN some when you're an Infernal, and get her to tell you what everything was like before she destroyed it. It seems likely she remembers since her charms can evoke lost concepts.

Plus at the root of it all, SWLiHN's true desire is to be needed. She wants to matter and be valued, to be important to Creation in some way, instead of cast aside, sealed away, and unwanted. This sort of desire is the kind that's REALLY easy to manipulate into serving your purposes, since all you really need to do is convince her that being needed by you satisfactory. She doesn't have anything interfering with this desire that'd get in the way except her other strongest feelings, her love for her brother Malfeas. Even her dislike of free will doesn't rank comparatively. So the only person you need to watch out for in this scenario is Malfeas.

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>>49735828
Hm... well fuck. So inverted Kandrona radiation causes a huge spike in Yeerk growth, allows them to live independent of Hosts, and they are fucking hard to kill now. This wouldn't be too bad but I, like the fool I am, didn't do this to a control group but to an entire pool of them at once.

>>49735834
I feel for you RavenloftAnon, stick to it and I can only hope it gets better for ya.

>>49735798
>She had a relationship with an UNSHAPED once. That's practically beastiality.
So par the course for White Wolf.

>>49735871
And from that day forth Gaunlet was hailed as the greates hero of the Yeerks. They'll build statues and monuments dedicated to you on all Yeerk worlds. Songs will be written, movies made. You heroism will never be forgotten.

>>49735798
>I mean hubris and contrivance turning Exalts into complete monsters.
That was the great curse. We don't know what would have happened to the solars if the great curse hadn't been done, because their only time not suffering under the curse was in the middle of a war.

>>49735871
Thanks I appreciate that, anyways it's getting late and I am heading to bed, so good night all.

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>>49735828
As an Exalted fan, I would vote for a Gunstar specific jump, maybe even jumps for other Shards.

Also you don't need to do the robot thing, or the no ears thing. Just have a really weird brain, there are never organic species the Yeerks can't control due to their weird brain structure.
But I love your plan, it's cool.

>>49735871
They can already live independent of hosts. Their life just sucks without hosts, because they are blind, deaf, and basically mute.

>>49735850
>get her to tell you what everything was like before she destroyed it
She doesn't remember all of it, she was just as twisted by becoming a Yozi as the others. Much of what was lost is gone forever. But yes SWLiHN is the easiest Yozi to get on your side, except for maybe Ceycelene who you just need to beat the shit out of until she listens due to her "the strongest makes the rules" mentality.

>>49735931
>There are never
Where the fuck did that "never" come from? I don't remember typing that.

>>49735931
Cecelyne might be possible, but you might have to mutilate her some more to make it happen, we don't know how much of her present attitude was the mutilation or from her bitterness at the Exalted for not honoring her surrender and torturing and imprisoning her anyway.

Cytherea might also be a good target. From what little we're told about Cytherea implies she really does love and care about the people and animals of Creation, just like Gaia supposedly does, despite being mutilated and locked up in Malfeas. It's just in a really patronizing (matronizing?) way, and in her mind she needs to put herself in a position of power over them for their own sakes. Problem there is actually FINDING her.

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>>49735887
Let the Salt flow.
Dear me this is a pickle I've manage to put myself into... so I've made a way for hostless Yeerks to be fucking terrifying, they're also damn fast and if it weren't for the precaution of the whole field of electrify me and Misaka would be in dire straights. I'll just retrieve the radiation source and make sure that the entire pool is dead, shouldn't be too hard, right?

>>49735931
It has been a while so some details may be missing. Basically think Yeerks that can hack a persons brain though skin contact and are really fast, strong, about the length of your arm and who can Morph with blinding speed and you've got what I just accidentallied. The Yeerks WILL praise me as >>49735887 said if they get their dirty pseudopods on this.

>>49735897
No prob. Good night my good Jumpmaker. Rest easy.

>>49735975
How did fucking with the Kandrona Rays make them able to morph!?
What did you do!?

>>49735975
So when you roll to decide how your story unfolds, do you stop at a certain point or do the best of three?

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>>49735984
No fucking clue. I just inverted the wavelength of the damn radiation as a 'hehe, maybe it poisons them' and got this. Also rolled what amounts to a 004, so I'm in the particular universe of Animorphs where this is such the results of doing what I did.

>>49735992
I roll to see how events go forward. A minimum of three rolls but I sometimes go further than that.

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>>49735895
>We don't know

Considering the forces CURRENTLY at work throughout Creation and the nature of some of the victors (shoutout to my homegirl Ryzala! When Infernals jump comes out, your punishment will be whispered in dread throughout Malfeas forever! YOLO!), it's not a risk I'm willing to take.

>>49735871
>>49735887
For what it's worth, if the Animorphs complete one of the Ellimist/Crayak's little game-missions in a few centuries the Yeerks will encounter an alien species called the Iskroot which evolved on similar lines as the Yeerks, but genetically engineered nonsentient host-bodies for themselves and removed their parsitism-they even gave up their own galactic empire to become peaceful merchants. The Ellimist seems to think meeting them will at least give the possibility for Yeerk social change since they'll realise there's alternatives to parsitism.

Okay, so the entire society is basically this huge marketplace that will try to sell you literally anything but hey, still nicer than galactic imperialism.

>>49735877
I changed my mind. The idea of a Primordial having a /meaningful relationship/ with an Unshaped is worse than beastiality. It's worse than dating Incarnae or even Solar Exalted.

It's like fucking a clump of rotting seaweed.

>>49735759
And then there was Everworld.

I love KA Applegate books.

Also it wasn't an undead baby, it was a hyperadvanced alien who...apparently infiltrated her womb as a baby, and wanted to take over the alien ship. The ACTUAL Ancient Enemy-tier psychic humans are arguably weirder

>>49735834
Good luck!

>>49736024
>Ryzala
Who?

>>49736024
Applegate is a fun juvenile fiction author because she doesn't pull any punches. If she wants to write about some heavy shit in a kid's book she'll fucking write about it.

>>49736024
>but genetically engineered nonsentient host-bodies for themselves and removed their parsitism
Dude what, their host-bodies are Sapient, but it's a symbiotic relationship now. Both species benefit from it. I mean I could be wrong, but I very strongly remember that being the case.

>>49736067
Are you sure you aren't mixing up to the Goa'uld's counterpart race in Star Gate? I know that's how it worked for them.

>>49736073
>>49736024
>>49736067
Upon looking at the wiki, no mention is made of the "Isk" being Sapient or non-sapient, but the Koort modified themselves to be incapable of surviving without an Isk.

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Uncharted Waters Jump 013:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
The Chase [+200]
Enemy of the Crown [+200]
Home Nation: Portugal
Background: Marooned [Free]
Abilities:
Seamanship [Free]
Leadership [-100]
Accounting [-100]
Negotiation [-200]
Ship: Old Friend (Kerykeion Ark)
Goddess Figurehead [-300]
Crew: Sailor Training [-100]
Items:
Pet Cat [-100]
Pocket Watch [-100]
Velvet Coat [-100]
Ancient Map [-300]

With a ship like mine the sea is mine to have, so I decided to follow the Ancient Map. If it's what I think it is then this is a ten year journey packed into a very small package, which thankfully I know ancient Greek so reading this is easy enough.... yep starts at Troy and ends in Ithaca this is going to be interesting... wonder if the Chaser will be able to keep up with this particular Odyssey.

>>49736024
Do you really hate paperwork that much?

>>49736266
Who doesn't?

Hi, I'm new to jumpchain and after having a quick look through some that caught my eye on the drive I have a few questions.
Would omega tier healing from Xmen and the regenerating body from scp make someone unable to die from old age?
Are there any perks that can allow you to merge all your alt-forms into one/allow you to access all the racial locked powers? Such as an innovator's quantum brain, diablo angel wings or super saiyan.
Is there a perk that can merge power pools together?
Is there a perk that allows you to have no upper limits on training?
What jumps would be best to gamify/quantify the jumper? (loot drops, hp bar, "mana" bar, xp, levels, visible stats, etc.)
Can drawbacks be kept post jump as perks?
Is there an item other than the pod that allows you to take things from a seperate jump as companions?
Is there a way to convert a non cp robot from kotor into a full companion so it can obtain and keep its sentience?

>>49736294
>Would omega tier healing from Xmen and the regenerating body from scp make someone unable to die from old age?
Wolverine is pretty much immortal, isn't he? Wouldn't be surprised if it did.
>Are there any perks that can allow you to merge all your alt-forms into one/allow you to access all the racial locked powers? Such as an innovator's quantum brain, diablo angel wings or super saiyan.
Final Form from Sword Art Online.
>Is there a perk that can merge power pools together?
The default is that all power pools of a certain type (So all mana etc) are one. This is what the creator himself did.
>Is there a perk that allows you to have no upper limits on training?
Soft Cap from Elona.
>What jumps would be best to gamify/quantify the jumper? (loot drops, hp bar, "mana" bar, xp, levels, visible stats, etc.)
Pick any jump based off of a MMO or virtual reality.
>Can drawbacks be kept post jump as perks?
They can be kept, but not as perks. If you ever drop a drawback it's gone for good.
>Is there an item other than the pod that allows you to take things from a seperate jump as companions?
Blue Feather, Harvest Moon.
>Is there a way to convert a non cp robot from kotor into a full companion so it can obtain and keep its sentience?
Find an import that says 'robot', not 'companion', or grant the robot sapience yourself. There are no rules on created life, but you are allowed to assume that creating sapient life automatically makes it a companion.

>>49736294
Welcome run while you still can

>Is there a way to convert a non cp robot from kotor into a full companion so it can obtain and keep its sentience?
You could also load a companion-grade AI (like a Halo AI) into it. Depends whether you like its existing personality or not.

>>49736325
>Blue Feather, Harvest Moon.
I don't think that the entity known as Grail-kun would accept my proposal, no matter how many charisma perks I take. I don't even want its power, I just want it as a conversation partner, and for its suggestions and opinions.

>>49736365
>existing personality
A HK wouldn't be a HK without his charming personality.

>>49736266
IIRC devs compared her to Umbridge once

>>49736415
A possibility is getting a T800 companion and then merging/uploading the HK personality program into the Terminator.

>>49736460
Well, I was already planning on killing Sarah Conner so I guess that having an improved T-800 would hopefully make skynet see me in a better light.
I wonder how one would go about organizing a trans-temporal trade for a copy of its personality files. HK is more effective than normal terminators, after all

>>49735759
You're misremembering, slightly. The other mutants in the group were from the radiation. The evil psychic baby was actually an alien ghost possessing her womb so it could be reborn and take control of the installation they crash-landed on. Because it just being a weird undead mutant baby isn't creepy enough for Remnants.

>>49736718
Your best bet to get on Skynet's good side is to help build it and actively protect it.

Skynet only attacks humans cause it views them as a threat to its existence. The Jump even notes at the end that Skynet didn't attack until after the US tried to"pull the plug."

A while ago, Mir dropped The Secret World jump because the wiki was kill. Now that the wiki's back up would anyone care to take a crack at it?

Not me since I'm not familiar enough, but the WIP he had was pretty interesting

How's everyone's day? Doing any builds? Making any jumps?

>>49737499
I've got diarrhea

>>49737499
About to go to bed, and pretty much done builds for all jumps except KoS, which is gonna take some time 'cos of the scenario and also me being busy IRL. Damn passport got lost. Gotta wake up at 7 fuckin' 30 tommorow to get that bullshit.

But thank you for asking. How was your day?

>>49737521
It's good so far, still early. Got some coding to do later. Sorry to hear about your passport.

>>49737511
Sorry to hear about that too. Hope you get well.

Could I use X-Men telepathy to force all of someone's pain receptors to continuously fire all at once?

>>49737499
Okay so far, probably a few builds but I'm starting to run out of Jumps.

>>49737556
On the one hand, I've never seen ol' Professor X do that in any of the movies.

On the other hand, he does way, way more bullshit mind things. Like Psychonauts-style mental fighting, for one.

Given Magneto apparently hurt him by shoving a coin through someone he was controlling's brain, on the balance of probabilities I'd say yes.

Would it be bad for two different backgrounds that are similar plot wise to share a capstone or perk albeit in different flavor?

>>49737612
For the sake of parity, I'd have to say yes as a general rule. Not necessarily saying there can't be exceptions but there better be a good reason for them.

>>49737499
Caught a cold off my mom when I went over to take care of her, now I'm just lying in bed conserving energy.

>>49737612
Well, if they're so similar in terms of plot that they can share a capstone, it brings to question why they're two separate backgrounds in the first place.

>>49737612
I'd advise against it, but it does depend how close they are, and if they are so close, then you have to consider why they wouldn't be folded into the same background.

I did that with the capstone relationship perk in Bride/Groom in Otoyomegatari partly because it made sense - whether bride or groom, growing with your partner was equally important. Yet I chose to make them two separate backgrounds rather than just one "newlywed" background because their other skills are so different; they have totally separate household roles and social behavior, so there was no way they could share the same lower-tier perks.

>>49737695
>>49737674
>>49737637

One is basically Battle Network Double Soul or Cross.

The other is Get Ability

That's the closest term that fits without spoiling the project. I was worried they would be too similar otherwise... Then again, EXE jump did it fine

>>49737775
Ignore my ramblings of a madman.

I know what to do now. And you will see awesome jump that is awesome.

Yes this is what you think it is

>>49736981
You don't need to be familiar to make a jump...you just do enough research to the point where you are familiar. Somebody called me over The Secret World a thread or two ago and I still have no clue what it is/supposed to be.

>>49737499
Kinda hoping the power gets turned on at my apartment. Been staying with family out of State since Hermine, so about a week. There has been talk of watching DVDs, yes, plural, of family vacations and mission trips.

My Benefactor, My Benefactor, why have you forsaken me?

>>49734599
origins only cost half as much in the latest version, though there are less free perks.

>>49734971
I may refer to Diving as an unholy combination of Ki and technopathy, but the in universe lore states that it has more to do with a quantum computer inside the robo synchronizing to your brain.

So yes, in theory. You'd have to predownload a holosseum, as they wouldn't be able to generate one though.

>>49737987
Well I don't know what it is so yay I guess?

>>49737998
Well, crap. Busy IRL schedule good enough of an excuse for you?

Don't mind me, just posting the new S&S drawbacks for critique, thoughts, and as a sneak peek.

The Only Thing You Keep (+100cp): Of what do all men dream? The feel of a jeweled throne on their back, the weight of gold and gems slipping through their fingers, and a thousand more material and temporal prizes that they might win from the world. But these are fickle things, here one day and gone the next, and you shall learn this well. You shall not lay claim to such things in your time here, and when you do they shall be temporary at best. While you still might win a prize of gold and silver it shall abide you comfort, supply, and relaxation, not the wealth of lords and kings. Thrones shall not be rewarded to you, even if the masses roar with adulation while brave men kneel in respect to what you have done. It shall be interesting to see wanderer which it is that truly has meaning to you. The fleeting glories of the material, or those of spirit, character, and deed.

To Live In Interesting Times (+200cp): Such has been a curse in the eyes of many of the wise. While perhaps before man might have seen fit to draw you into the web of their ambitions now it is fate itself whose eyes rest upon you. You are the lever, the catalyst, the turning point of fate. Whether you wish it or not your actions or lack thereof will decide the course of nations, the pulse of civilization, the path of countless lives. Not for you is the safety of a quiet life. From the frenzied struggle of wars to the alignment of stars and their strange influences, short indeed will be the times of calm, peace, and the humble pleasures of a gentle routine. So many fates now weigh upon your shoulders. To which direction might you tip the scales, whether inadvertently or through intention? When your every step might shake the world, one must walk with care wanderer. Shall the weight of the world grind you to dust?

(continued)

>>49737998
Agreed. You don't need to be familiar with the source material if you're willing and able to do research. The key is just to go in with the idea of being true to the source material, and balancing that with the broad stroke mechanics of jumpchain.

>>49738055
And finally

The Root of All Stories (+300cp): Before you found your way here wanderer did you hear tales of a Cimmerian who came to trample the jeweled thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet. Or perhaps of long lost Melnibone and the last survivor of that damned empire. So many tales sat on shelves within your reach once upon a time. It is time you take your place among them. During your stay here you must forge a legend that will eclipse all others that might exist in this land. Among gods, sorcerers, warrior-kings and the swift foots of thieves your name must be spoken of as the first among all. Succeed and your journey shall continue onto whatever greater glories might await you in worlds beyond reckoning. Fail and you shall return to the place of your birth with naught but what you have already accomplished. Go forth wanderer. Tread where even the gods may fear, face that which heroes quake in terror of with courage in your breast. Carve your name into the very heart of this world. Seize the greatness you have scarcely dared to dream of.

Getting back into writing for this jump is fun.

>>49738055
Huge fan of these drawbacks. The 100 in particular just screams Conan in the best way possible.

>>49734434

Evo->External influence. Using evo resets the target's age, every time.

>>49738068
Two questions for this drawback: does it require this to be accomplished within 10-year timeframe of a standard jump. Also, how does this interact with the perk that inserts you retroactively into the myths of the world?

>>49738091
Yes, you have the normal span of the jump to complete it in.

If you have that perk and manage to complete this then the resulting legend carrying over would be BIG. The kind of thing that people look at in comparison to other myths and whistle before letting out a quiet "well damn" under their breaths.

>>49738072
Glad to hear anon. I'm enjoying it. The themes of the genre really make it fun to write prose for. It's just really easy to make it feel suitably dramatic and legendary.

>>49738138
>Yes, you have the normal span of the jump to complete it in.
That's super challenging, but also fun and interesting. Personally, I prefer neat victory conditions like this to the Da Youkneevrs H8s U An U Weel Di drawbacks.

I imagine stacking this drawback with the Lovecraftian drawback and the legend perk would result in pure fucking awesome. Thanks so much for updating this, this is one of my favorite jumps.

Are you going to relax the drawback cap with this update?

>>49738321
Heh, glad to hear anon. I'd rather make drawbacks which make for interesting stories than just make it ten years of daydreamed pain, while still being challenges and obstacles.

But yes, the drawback cap is being raised to 1000cp. That's part of why I'm adding a new drawback of each tier, so that it adds a bit more variety in what combination people can take.

>>49738378
Awesome. Are you planning on putting scenarios in this update or will that be its own update?

I'm really excited to rebuild based off of these, and I may even bump this up in my jump order so that it's a bigger part of my chain.

>>49738407
Kind of waffling back and forth, I'm half considering releasing an update before the scenarios are done so people can play around with any changes to their builds they want to make.

Though I'd like to say that any modifications are only going to be beneficial, nobody is going to have less CP than they used to.

We'll see how it goes. I'm finally getting some work done and it feels good enough I'd like to think I can maybe get this done in a decent time span.

>>49738035
It's better for you to not know what jump it is.

Otherwise You will cry like anime fan on prom night

>>49738442
Well I'm on board either way. I might be greedy and see how those drawbacks effect my build now, do a tentative rebuild, just to see what it looks like.

Have any ideas for scenarios yet or rough ideas of how they'll work?

Yo, finally got off my ass and started doing builds again, got a question for the dude who made Hero Union BBS.

Is getting banned from the BBS possible, and if so, is it grounds for Chain Failure?

>>49738469
I have the plots of the scenarios down for the most part, I'm just kind of stymied by the mechanics. Right now the idea is that there's a separate 1000 point budget that lets you make purchases in order to nab shiny rewards from whats going on, and taking certain options can gain you more.

What I'm stuck on is how exactly I want to play things as far as actually advancing the scenarios go. Just have people pick two or three events and by completing those they can continue on? Make the events optional story bits and leave full narrative freedom aside from the overarching plot as far as how things go? Stuff like that. Not to mention working on the spoils themselves and the unique companion options.

Oh, and before anybody asks I'm going to have scenarios let you swap your location to their locale for free since it's locking you into a plot with plenty of danger and challenge. So nobody has to pay points for taking the one they want.

If I do things right though the opportunity cost should be much much more painful anyway.

>>49738487
>and if so, is it grounds for Chain Failure?
Why the fuck would it be?

>>49737499
Spideranon here. Pulling my hair out over stubborn family counting down the days to my vacation when I hope to work more on USM series jump. Anyone see the last episode Mary Jane was awesome as hell as spiderwoman.

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>>49735726
>If the Gunstar Autocthonia Shard's to be believed-
Stop. They are all alternate possibilities , different shards of existence with branching points making them all very separate of one another. Taking a mod and pointing at vanilla saying it might have had these is kinda absurd. Modern has the gods (UCS, etc.) as actual creators while primordials are cthulhu mythos. The reason the two of them have space at all is because of thematics necessary to their narratives. I sincerely doubt space existed at any point in vanilla due to already having a nigh infinite expanse of alien vista antithetical to life all around creation already. The only galaxies confirmed to speak of existed and exist in the two things you like the least in setting. In the bodies of the Magnanimous Unbound Sun and Spiral Emperor That Was. Go reread that flavor text, I'll wait.

Besides, we both know the only concept really deleted in Creation was the greatest threat employed by the Exalted to the Primordials during the war. Basketball.

>>49738524
No idea why, just wanted to make sure. Don't know much about the setting, so I figured I'd double check shit.

>>49738487
I assume it's possible to get banned if you do something like posting CP.

>>49727573
Jump two, Zelda Minish Cap

>Origin : Mage, -100
More magic. MOAR!

>Location : Mount Crenel, Free
Rolled a four. Don't know enough about the game to determine if this is good or bad, so I'm just going to roll with it.

>Race : Hylian, Free
Considering I came out of my last jump as a demon lord, being the race of tiny people who go around making people happy seems... Not a great idea. Funny, but not a great idea.

>Wind Magic, Free
>Fire Magic, -50?
>Dark Magic, -50?
No real reason behind my choices. Totally not planning on upgrading my flying castle.

>A Chest Full Of Demons, -100
You know, I think I might be evil again. Just a thought.

>From Wrought By Wishes, -200
More Magic. MOAR!

>Speaking From A Pure Heart, Free
I am apparently dead evil, but I have a pure heart. Pure evil?

>Restoring Legends, -300
I'm a magic blacksmith, not just a mage. Coolio?

>Figurines, Free
I spent so damn long in wind waker working on this... MINE, ALL MINE!

>A Complete Collection of Zelda Games, -50
Because why the hell not. If I ever go to a near-earth jump, I can be the ultimate zelda nerd.

>A Complete Collection of Zelda Game Guides, -100
Correction, NOW i'm the ultimate zleda nerd.

>The Challenger, Free
Making me wish i'd bout the demon sword here...

>Mage's Hat, -150
More magic. MOAR!

>>49738613
...Okay, I think I'm done. Only think I think I wanted but didnt take was the Hero 100, for ordinary blacksmithing skills. Didn't take it because I thought the piccori 300 would make it useless.

Anyways, lets tally. 500 on mage perks, 300 on piccori, and 300 on items. Thats 1100 cp total.

Which, by the way, is way the hell more manageable than my attempt at Hero Union.

>The Princesses’ Friend, an Incarnation, +300
WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST DO??? NO, I DON'T WANT TO BE A SWORDY PERSON, I'M A COWARD, GIVE ME BACK MY MAGIC!

>Borne Of Steel, Free
Oh hey, the blacksmithing perk is free now, that nice, NOW GIVE ME BACK MY MAGIC DAMMIT!

>The Next Swiftbade, -100
I ALREADY TOLD YOU, I DON'T WANT TO BE A SWORDY PERSON!

>A Smith's Sword
Oh, well this is a very nice sword. I mean, its not really anything special, but - STOP DISTRACTING ME!

>A Bottle Of Something, -50
Potion. Potion's are good, right?

>A Place To Put Things, -50
Magic bag. You know, I really really, REALLY, wish that i'd picked up the magic box from Hero Union. It would be so useful to spy on GIRLS BATHS right about now.

Can I change my build for Hero Union and pretend it was always like that?


Anyways, build done, and I've accidentally doomed myself to being a swordy person. I don't like it.

On the other hand, I bought the Guides, so this should actually be fairly easy. Just long.

>>49738621
Embrace the sword and martial prowess, like your namesake, friend. You can't trust anything in this world. Not men, not women, not magic. A sword you can trust.

Might be on a Conan kick thanks to Worm's sneak peeks.

>>49738621
>Jumpers Diary on inter-dimensional 4chan, world two, day three
I'm Link now. A swordy person. And my magic is gone.

Er, mostly. Ive got a little low tier elemental stuff, but for the most part my magic is gone.

I am not happy.

Also, Zelda is... Not exactly chibi, but close.

>Day four
>>49738643
You shut up.

>Day seven
Thank god for the game guides. Because I have no idea anything thats going on.

Who is this Vaati dude? The only thing that comes to mind is the dragon from wind waker. What the heck's a Minish? Why does everyone freak out when I open my mouth to talk?

...When can I leave?

>Day nine
So, wind magic is flight. Thats nice. Mobility is nice. Also ranged options, because I DON'T WANT TO BE A SWORDY PERSON.


...I don't know nearly enough about this game to write for it. Tosses?

>>49738055
>>49738068
Love it! These delicious morsels please me!

Time to carve my name in the walls of a hundred cities!

>>49738919
yo Toriko-Anon Toriko question, is it cool if I make up a reasonable animal/dish or three to have discovered and Hunted/eaten? I'm thinking spinach-chicken , jellybean-salmon caviar and Buttercream Hibiscus

>>49738985
Knock yourself out.

I do it all the time. Just nothing stronger then the Acacia's Full Course (IE Giving you super powers) and have fun.

Like I have an entire orchard of coconut trees filled with soda instead of coconut water! Colanuts if you will!

>>49739060
na, None of their capture levels are over 12. There are just things I occasionally get cravings for. Like spinach chicken omelette with cheese, Their green yokes have all the Savory flavor of Rich spinach,the jellybean-salmon caviar tastes like the most delectable strawberry jelly beans you've ever had. And the buttercream hibiscus flowers are hibiscus flowers that generate a rich and sweet buttercream But the leaves are very delicate and melt at the slightest touch so you have to stretch out your mouth and Eat them in one bite.

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>>49737499
I'm at work, thinking about the next Jump's story while I clean tools. It's not a bad day do far.

Sneak peek: I may be the reason security is so tight at the Avatar compound at the North Pile when the actual show starts.

>>49738643
Hey Heavens, did I get it right?
>>49729848

>>49738537
I always thought that the main concept erased in the Three Spheres Cataclysm was "moderation", and that's why everything in Exalted has to be as over the top as possible.

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>>49731961
(Digital Devil Saga: Part 1) #62
-Background: Atma Soldier (Free) -The body of a demon does not mean the mind of a monster.
-Mind Over Body (Free) -My mind is my own, and that's a fact.
-You Can Fly! (800CP) (Discount) -Being able to fly really fast is pretty nice.
-Atma Commander (500CP) (Discount) -A streamlined demonic form is excellent. Elegance and tactical skill, even more so.
-Devil Warrior (-100CP) -Disregard the devouring, acquire initial boost.
-Stylish Outfit (-200CP) -And at least I look good now.
-Hungry Hungry Jumper (-200CP)
-Silent Protagonist (0CP)
Dice Rolls: 24 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

Wait. Wait where is this. What's going on, why is this place a junkyard. Why are monsters and demons running around trying to capture a girl, what the fuck is this 'Nirvana' thing about? Who even IS that girl?

Why do I feel so hungry.

My entire time here is just going to be one massive relapse of Demon's Souls. Study. Seek. Consume. Soulbrandt shall benefit from this run, yes it will. Flesh and spirit both shall be the name of the game, it seems. There's so many times that people let the power of demons go to their head and take it out on others, thinking they're invincible. Thinking they're the top of the food chain.

But there's always another link.

>>49739226
Nope. Good effort, though.

>>49739305
hey Red,1. Is there a limit to how many times you can take warframe abilities?
2.if you go with a prime version of a warframe that doesn't have a prime version . Could you have the abilities changed slightly? I.e. a version of limbo's Banish that works on inanimate objects.

>>49739305
3.what kind of energy is the energy that powers A warframe's abilities?
4.how much of the ability descriptions we are given are hyperbole? i.e. is rhino really strong enough to stomp time into pieces,and if not what is happening with that?