Would your character prevail against The Boss ?

I like it how in older MGS games many characters had these melodramatic and romantic traits. Like how Boss could never die by anyone else but Snake and how the infinity-shaped feeder in her gun provided her with infinite ammo.

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checkmate

>>49719471
Honey badger don't give a shit.

>>49719342
17th level unchained monk, so of course no

>>49719436
>and how the infinity-shaped feeder in her gun provided her with infinite ammo.
Wait what

>>49719981
You heard the man.

>>49719981
It's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu6uEPlp9m8

>orc barbarian with like 40 strength on a rage
I would think so unless The Boss can bench cars

>>49720031
Depends on the emotion you carry into battle.
Rage isn't enough to defeat The Boss.

>>49720001
>>49720005
>google wiki
>the bullets didn't leave the gun straight, they flip and twist
whuh

it has a picture

what the fuck

are those bullets flying with their casing still on too

>>49719342
What are her stats? Perks? Other useful info?

>>49720342
When you have infinite ammo you can afford to fire the entire bullet. That 90% more bullet.

>>49719436
>>49720342

Hideo Kojima writes in a narrative style largely referred to as 'magical realism', wherein intent and emotion have real and dramatic impacts on the world, and these effects are taken at face value by people in the world.

Ergo a gun with ammo contained inside an infinity symbol would, rationally, simply have infinite ammo.

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>>49720342
The rounds have two casings arranged linearly. The fore casing is fired with the round while the rear casing is ejected back into the magazine, where it spontaneously grows its own bullet and rear casing section (as well as conjuring new propellant) before being fed back into the chamber. This allows the weapon to consume twice the propellant per shot and accelerate more mass (because the round includes the fore casing when striking the target).

I just made all of that up. Just let it happen, man.

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>>49720387
Would Evangelion be considered magical realism too or am I misunderstanding?

>>49720330
I've got Determination, Love and Suplexing A Godzilla Every Tuesday.

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>>49719342
The Boss was a massive Mary Sue. You could only defeat her if the GM wants you to.

>>49720342
maybe The Patriot is a Gauss Rifle, can't find the exact video but i've seen these make thier bullets flip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWeJsaCiGQ0

>>49720387

Admittedly, the 'infinite ammo' bits in MGS2 and MGS3 could be viewed very easily as jokes (especially considering the straight man responses of Raiden and 'Sigint') but it's much more visible as an overarching style. COBRA unit exemplifies the ideal very literally, each member named after and inspiring a particular emotion or sensation in a magical realism loop.

Certain other characters are much less matter-of-fact about it, though, with characters such as Vulcan Raven having an otherwise inexplicable connection with ravens that is accepted as normal. Pretty much every conversation about guns or technology in the entire series boils down to magical realism, with the passion and obsession of individuals investing much greater power and emotion into things like manually ejecting a shell casing making that sentiment true.

It's a relatively common element of Japanese story telling that proooobably has its roots in the deeply animistic aspects of Shinto.

>>49720395

You are misunderstanding. In Eva, there are simply psychic powers, and the power of emotion is largely unrecognized. Instrumentality is a ploy that no one who isn't in the know sees coming, and they respond with emotions ranging from shock to horror when it happens. The idea that there is a living (dead?) 'soul' inside of the Evas is both unknown and would not be recognized as a rational power source.

In Magical Realism, these 'fantastic' elements simply occur as the day-to-day result of powerful, passionate emotion or sensation, and are accepted as such by those within the setting.

Why people have such a hard time coming with terms that MGS was not meant to be realistic? It has fucking cyborg ninjas and giant robots for fucks sake

>>49720459

It's also worth noting that Shinto is not ACTUALLY animistic, this is just the term that most closely resembles the Shinto world view which is, in fact, best described as 'Shinto'.

The Shinto traditions do not hold that each object is imbued with a soul or spirit, but that all of creation, every last piece, is divine in nature, and that that divinity coexists with all other states and things. When one is inspired to awe or meditation by an object or place or whatever, it is believed that that particular thing is a bridge to or simply idealized representation of that divine nature. It is why, for example, nobody but nobody fucks with Mt. Fuji. It's one of the most awe inspiring places in Japan, and easily one of, if not the, most sacred.

Also ALSO, the vast majority of Japan identifies as participating in some way in Shinto beliefs and practices. If this doesn't go a long way towards helping to explain why melodrama and overly emotional responses to plot-important things is so prevalent in anime, I dunno what else to tell you.

>>49720477

So old Super Robot shows like GaoGaiGar is a more accurate comparison. And Gurren Lagann then confronts and deconstructs this tradition in the Super Robot genre to a degree, particularly through the character of Rossiu who explicitly rejects the "magical thinking," the universe runs on in favor of cold science and logic and thus creates tragedy despite his intentions, and the character of Lordgenome who was driven into despair and villainy by a philosophical argument about the nature of his magical reality that he should have, by his very definition, been immune to.

>>49720756

A much better representation, yes.

>>49720478
Their legs are not okay

>>49720756
>>49720761

There's a line in GaoGaiGar that exemplifies this pretty well: at some point, the ops guy says something like "He's a hero, he can transform ten percent... into a hundred percent!" or something along those lines, and this is accepted with dramatic realization, just like the tense fear of the hero's minuscule chance of success was.

>>49720794

Martian Successor Nadesico plays with magical realism a lot as well, since its a "real robot," show with a super robot "show within a show," that has crazy dramatic import to the plot and characters.

>>49720372
top lel

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>>49720387
>>49720459
>>49720620

Today, I learned something interesting and useful on /tg/. Thank you for those facts, and thank you everyone, for this surprisingly good thread.

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>>49720857
>>49720620
>>49720459
>>49720820
>>49720794

OP here, didn't expected a thread created because I love The Boss to end up about Shinto and old school mecha show. That's awesome as fuck, thanks for the lesson.

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>>49719436
>older MGS games

That's a *new* MGS game, *this* is an old MGS game

>>49720620
Different guy, but most Japaneses don't count Shintoism as a religion, for them is a natural way of thinking and imo a beautiful one.

>>49720875
Actually, that's a metal gear game. And Snake Eater was released over 10 years ago, which makes it an old game.

>>49720387

And Huey STILL got cucked to death. I guess that's what happens when people even more emotionally invested than you keep blowing up your robots.

>>49720902
Fuck Huey. He deserved that and more.

>>49719342
To be perfectly honest he'd probably end up joining her.

>>49720902
Never liked that Brazilian piece of shit

>>49720914
Not saying he didn't.

Only joking that when you wanna start throwing giant nuke-bots around, you'd best hope that those you meet don't have stronger magical realism than you.

>>49720929
Did he found an emotion to carry into battle ?

>>49720342
>the bullets didn't leave the gun straight, they flip and twist

This can probably be attributed to popular perception of reports about the rounds fired by early M-16's tumbling and creating a larger wound channel.

This may have been because of the nose being lighter and the tail end of the bullet being much heavier. On impact it tends to cause the bullet to flip over and go tail-first. (Or barring that fragment inside the body.)
This may have been worsened by the early rifles having too much barrel twist since the amount originally specified couldn't be machined properly at first.

>>49719342
Would The Boss just give up if i carry a maxed-out-on-charisma Bard to battle and have him sing Snake Eater on repeat?

>>49720820
I recently played SRW J which featured the particular show - I just can't get over how obnoxious the characters are. I know it's supposed to be comedic, but doesn't seem to appeal to my sense of humor.

>>49720902
that's what he fucking gets for not building me a giant robot to emotionally invest myself in

Can't even drive the battle gear around. Fucking worthless.

>>49721047
Nadesico kinda sucked on the comedy department because they tried to make Akito and Gai's /m/ otaku tendencies drive the plot in the first half of the series. Then the plot twist happens and many of the viewers are left dumbfounded.

>>49720031
She at least has the strength to hold a disassembled Davy Crocket mortar in a case in one hand, and a case with Mk. 54 nuclear shells in the other, with no visible signs of strain.

It's also assumed, but not explicitly stated, that she may also have Soldier Genetics, which essentially make those who have it OP as fuck. How OP? John Doe/Big Boss, her disciple, who is confirmed to have Soldier Gene, can squat lift a fucking mech

>>49720870
>>49720857

It feels like we haven't had a derail like this in quite some time. I've missed these.

>>49719342
My character would get unequivocally shriek'd. And he's a combat focused force sensitive to boot.

The thing about The Boss is that she has the inherent trait of "better than you +5" and there's nothing you can do about it. Your first fight will be an easy win on her part, one which will leave you bruised and humiliated.

But the fight will also force you to grow and adapt, not just as a fighter, but as an indovidual as well. The loss of the fight will spurn a hero's journey of self discovery and attaining your full potential.

The only way to defeat The Boss is to rise to the occasion, to become greater than fate, to become greater than the person who you are or could ever be.

Only then can you defeat The Boss, only then could you become your own legend.

>>49720031
>40 Str
I reached 47 at 12th level without counting magic items (52 with them), shit was so cash

>>49721040
Fuck no, The Boss would fight even better with that playing in the background.

Man, the boss squads were the best part of MGS. Everyone remembers Foxhound, Dead Cell, and The Cobras.

And the Beauty and the Beast Unit were also a thing, I guess.

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>>49721447
Then PW and TPP "happened"

>>49719342
My character is basically a god of war in core concept, and given magical realism that's gotta bring some potent power with it.

Someone who consciously delights in the suffering and personal degradation of warfare is basically The Boss's evil opposite number.

Either way, it'll be a really sweet fight/philosophical discussion.

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>>49722627
Even so, you would be given a solid lesson in what it feels like to be mortal once more.

Enjoy getting a well deserved cheap shot via that one weak spot you didn't even know existed. Because she does.

>>49721047
The thing about Nadesico is that the majority of its theme don't work in the context of Super Robot Wars because you have actual super robots stomping around turning tragedy into miracles with nothing but their heroic spirit.

God damn but it is one hell of a battleship though.

>>49719342
My current character would get absolutely destroyed by the Boss.
I had another character whose dad was pretty much a far more selfish fantasy Big Boss not Venom Snake, Big Boss, and the character had the disgustingly high point-buy cost equivalent of 44. He'd stand the best chance by far and would probably get better than 50% odds in true mode.

>>49719342
Depends, could Jackie Chan defeat the Boss?
Because that's what I'm bringing to this fight. A level 15 Tao Counter-Grappling Machine. He's managed to pin the Shai Hulud, may his passing cleanse the world.

>>49724822
That depends. Are you holding a baby, standing in a ladder factory, and don't want no trabble?

>>49725250
Don't want no trable is check about 99% of the time.
Ladder factory, no. Stuck in a chair, ladder, or bench is more common. Say, 60% of the time.
Baby is usually a no.
However, I invariably have the Kwa(Black) Illusionist telling me I'm crazy. So Chris Tucker bonus could apply.

>>49721274
Dear God, that's inspiring.

>>49719342
>A 15 year old, PTSD suffering Necromancer sorceress
Yeah, no. Hopefully the Boss just ends up feeling bad for me.

>>49720387
It's a very interesting style, and a lot of people don't get it. It's basically modern fantasy, where major characters have a sort of narrative destiny behind them that makes them metaphysically 'bigger'.

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>>49721106
>yfw he has no nanomachines
>yfw no cyborg limbs

>>49719436
I don't think calling it melodramatic really does it justice, because as long as you aren't actively trying to step away from it, it really does hit the right notes a lot of the time.

anons, how good is MGS? Should I invest in it?

>>49728043
so it's like old style epics and myths like Gligamesh, but they take place in the modern day?

>>49719342
The Boss is a shit character. She showed up for five minutes in one game and every subsequent installment made her out to be the most important person in existence despite previous installments never once even alluding to her.

>>49720407
Wasn't that joke lifted straight out of Last Days of FOXHOUND? Or I guess it is easy enough a million people made it.

>>49721274
So you're saying run a military action Scion game then. Okay sure.

>>49728263
the first 3 MGS games are worth playing at least

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>>49719342
My character is essentially Monsoon. Could The Boss beat Monsoon?

Even without using weapons or magnetism he still has a huge advantage.

>>49729479
>Could The Boss beat Monsoon?

Yes.

>>49728043
Nail on the head. MGS has always been fantastical sci-fi, and the supernatural is accepted as scientific fact. Remember when Ocelot said there was no such thing as magic even though he worked directly alongside Psycho Mantis who was capable of telepathy, mind-reading, mind control, and telekinesis?

>>49727900
Dude she would probably take you under her wing and make you part of Cobra

>>49729703
The Grief?

Skeleton theming. I dunno, too much overlap with The Sorrow

>>49719342
Does being a magnetically contained sentient supernova squashed into a '70s space suit count as 'magic or other tricks'?

>>49730088
Not if it fights like a man. Conversely, Volgin fights with biolightning "just because". What's the name of this man-supernova?

>>49720342
>>49720991
It was already figured that the Boss's custom M16, had a barrel without rifling, which would definitely cause some fucked up shit to happen within the 50m or so she often found herself in.

And no, the casings weren't still on the actual bullets.

>>49728300
Pretty much.

They're larger than life characters meant to tell larger than life stories, that only they can tell because the world they live in is one so much greater than our own.

For one reason or another, they're the 1%. Whether it's money, power, genetics, knowledge or sheer will, they play on a stage only they can reach, telling a story we can all understand because of how much greater than us it is, which in this, we can align with our own lives because of how it can encompass and remind us of the enormity of our own challenges that we must face in our lives, great or small.

>>49729663
That's psychic capability, not magic. Completely different things, I assure you.

>>49728043
>It's a very interesting style, and a lot of people don't get it.
I don't get it either

>>49731661
That's what I meant, even though we consider psychic powers to be magic or supernatural, it's a fact of life in Metal Gear.

>>49731661
>t. Technocratic Union

>>49732116
What does "t." mean? Triggered? Because you sound triggered yourself, faggot.

>>49732116
Truly, the mysteries of the mind are deep and unknown, but the laws of physics are set and fundamental to them; we just have to figure out how the one fits into the other!

>>49732142
't.' probably means 'the' in context. He's not triggered; he's asserting my post as being from The Conspiracy in "Mage: The Ascension".

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>>49720478

It feels realistic

Honestly the non-realistic stuff is something I've always liked about MGS because it's usually tied to a particular character and isn't over the top enough to clash with the rest of the setting.

The only thing off the top of my head I can recall not liking is the next spinoff being about warp holes and zombies, though a friend said those are both in a way present in MGSV which makes it somewhat better since it doesn't seem like Konami pulling something out of their ass. Granted Kojima apparently isn't fond of the idea, though that could be how both are being used and not the zombies and warp holes in of themselves.

>>49728393

She shows up for a lot longer than five minutes.

She is also arguably one of the most important characters in the series considering that disciple was Big Boss and her philosophy had an impact on both him and led to the creation of the Patriots.

>>49732243
>>49732142
It's more "according to"

>>49720005
>New Game after getting the Patriot
>SIGINT asks where'd you get the weapon
>"Sigint, don't get worked up over details."

My sides.

>>49732306
My only issues about the warp hole/zombie thing is the implementation of the zombies and what else I've seen so far makes me think they're going to go ahead and just explain said warp holes.

It was just kind of there and I like it like that. Nobody could give half a shit about a literal miniature wormhole creating device because they're too busy fucking about with nuke mechs and bio weapons.

>>49732306
The warp holes are in the game in a way the game itself doesn't bother explaining or acknowledging at all. You capture a weird animal in a side op and suddenly you replace your extraction balloons with fucking wormhole technology.

Wormholes also show up in the multiplayer portion where you go visit "other PFs" and fight with them. Whether they're meant to be other PFs in the same sense as the ones in Africa or whether the wormhole is meant to take you to a parallel dimension where an alternate Big Boss founded a slightly-different Diamond Dogs PF that you're now raiding to support your own Diamond Dogs PF (which is the only one that exists in your home reality) is unclear.

Parasite zombies are totally a thing in the story, though.

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>>49719342
L-love always prevails!

>>49733888
>yfw Strangelove only saw Huey as a fucktoy/sperm sack
I wonder if she ever said to his face that to her, his kids aren't his own, they're The Boss's. I have the strangest feeling some alternate universe had Strangelove lock Huey in the Mammal Pod.

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>>49719342
Maybe?
My guy is a space marine, does he get to wear his armor?
I figure with his armor on he can counter the Boss's judo tricks better than if he was fighting her naked. While he's certainly stronger and tougher than her, they're probably about matched for speed.
Her stealth abilities won't be of as much use thanks to his enhanced senses, but she's probably much, much more skilled than he is.
I figure in Armor, he wins but its a remarkably difficult fight for being matched with a "mere human", and probably fairly emotionally draining.
Naked, I'd probably give the fight to the Boss due to her crazy skills, but he's no slouch and they both end the battle badly injured.
Emotionally, he's similar to Snake in that he was a loyal warrior who's become embroiled in the seedy world of espionage and become increasingly disillusioned with the people he was supposed to serve and himself. He's driven by guilt over terrible things he's done in the past and a desire to be part of something worth being loyal to... but everyone he puts his faith in keeps asking him to do more and more grey-area shit.

>>49733085
>Parasite zombies
COPULATION

>>49720478
Bipedal nuclear armed tank dinosaurs if we're gonna be specific.

It's like complaining about magic in Harry Potter.

>>49719342
My most recent character is a level 4 Oath of Vengeance Paladin. He's equipped with a war hammer, shield and chainmail armor.

How fucked am I?

>>49734392
Multiple broken bones I think.

I don't think that she'll kill you.

Yes, in both modes. Though she's a super villain so it's not really a good comparison.

>>49720459
>tfw Snake takes everything in stride until Paramedic starts talking about vampires
>THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS VAMPIRES

Oh Big Boss, thank God you were in a coma for MGS II.

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>>49719342
Honestly she'd kick my guy's ass. He's good, but he's not "defeat Big Boss in the prime of his life while half-trying to let him win" good.

>>49732142

It's a Finnish abbreviation, think for "regards"?

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>>49728393
Boss's philosophy is literally the underpinning of the entire series you mook. Everything stems back to her.

She saw the world from space and realized the futility of nations and wars and borders, and wanted a world without them. But she also realized that her dream would literally never come true, and became suicidal and overcome with despair.

Everyone realized her vision for the future, but failed to catch that it was impossible, so all of them, Major Zero, Big Boss, even Skullface and Ocelot and the goddamn Patriots all tried to bring it about in a different way. Even the fucking Senator from MGR was unconsciously following the Boss's meme. But it was all futile, just as it was in her time. Even negro arms dealer was still trying at the end. The only person to escape the cycle was Snake, and only because Big Boss fucking returned from the dead and told him to just give it up and live.

>>49719342
The Boss is not cute. Not cute! She's just hot.

>>49719342
I'd like to say my brawler who has super strength could win, but then I remember she scares the crap out of Volgin who could punch holes in tanks. So probably not.

>>49719342
>you may have one sidearm

Gee, thanks. She's just going to pull it apart in my hand.

>>49720330
I want to impregnate The Boss.

>>49732142
Being this much of a clueless newfag should be a ban.

>>49720407
>complaining about Mary Sues
>in a universe where every important character is a larger-than-life figure caught up in epic destiny

Anon, you're such a stupid.

>>49729866
Nah, as long as you've got an emotion, you're golden.

>>49736040
She's sterile tho

How would you even run a MGS game? Is the style even conducive to a party-based RPG?

>>49722657
Not that guy but it seems unfair to mock someone for having a character that is nominally more powerful than the boss when there are settings that are much higher power than MGS. It's not even like he was smug about it, he said that it would result in a sweet fight and philosophical discussion.

Or is it that this is just a thread for masturbating furiously about how the boss would totally dominate your character, tie you up and call you a naughty boy?

>>49720407
She has believeable strengths/weaknesses with good motives that fit her backstory
Not a Mary Sue

>>49736114
keep talking about the domination anon

>>49736103
Well I still wanna try.

>>49728263
First 3 are 100% worth playing
MGS4 is almost 1:1 with gameplay:cutscene content
Phantom Pain is the best video game in the series, but the worst Metal Gear
Peace Walker is bretty good
MGR:Revengeance is a Platinum Games spinoff, expect fucking amazing action and off-the-wall bossfights

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Holy shit, even /tg/ threads on MGS are way better than /v/ threads. There really isn't a point in going anywhere else.

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>>49736136
>You don't even need the other boards!

On-topic, my last character was a Solar Exalt, specialized in War but not particularly skilled himself. He's all about leading armies and amazing tactics and whatnot, but he's only a bit better than an excellent human when it comes to swordplay.

What I'm saying is that in a 1 on 1 with The Boss it's RIP Solar.

I still don't really quite get the magical realismo definition in this case. I heard it before, but it just didn't click.

I mean, all the bullshit people pull in the games they try to Science away, but so is it valid or not? Is it not sci fi?

True Mode honestly sounds like her happy place.

Karin Yildiz, Malifaux Augmented/Engineer. She's honestly more machine than woman at this point, with only parts of her torso and face actually fleshy. Even with the boss' excellent unarmed skills she'd likely have a hard time laying a hit on Karin that she couldn't shrug off.

Armour 4 + Metal On Metal is one hell of a drug.

Normal/Hard is honestly a lot worse for her as Karin isn't particularly good at observation/finding sneaky people so narrowing it down to unarmed combat only is seriously an upside to her.

She'd likely lose Hard mode by a lot and have a good chance in True Mode.

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>>49719342
>Awakened medium-sized Stone Golem who wanders around hiding his form with a scarf of Disguise Self, trying to find a place where to belong since being a fighter is the only thing he has ever known

Fuck, he may be a piece of granite made for fighting, capable of piercing a steel platemail with a fist, but I don't think he'd ever try to lay an hand on her, supposing he knew some trivia about her legend. He'd be feeling too much of a mixture of fear and respect.

A reminder that not even the players of MGS actually beat the boss.

She wasn't trying to win.

>>49720395
No, but Devadasy would. It's basically Evangelion with all the christain references swapped with the kama sutra and the tantric arts. Their robots are literally powered by orgasms and teen horniness.

>>49735600
Ehhh, I wouldn't say that.

The Boss is handsome.

>>49736127
Also, don't forget MGR basically has the best story of the series.

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>>49737021
You best be taking the piss.

>>49735586
I disagree. It's not that the dream is impossible, it's that everyone warps the idea into what they want it to be, whether for personal gain, or simply filtering it through their own perceptions.

>>49737047
I'm honestly not. It's the best written, which isn't saying much, because MGS sets the bar pretty low. I love the series to death, but while the stories are fun, they're usually rather dumb (And I don't mean the magical realism stuff that's being talked about here)

>>49737059
Are you implying that MGR isn't dumb?

>>49737067
It is dumb, but it's less dumb, and much more well-constructed. The way the character's ideals clash through their fights, and how it all reflects on Raiden and how he changes throughout the story, coming to terms with his nature, is very well done, and a lot more elegant than anything else in Metal Gear.

But maybe I was just tricked by how PUMPED I was throughout the entire game, that excitement bled over into excitement for the story.

>>49734790
>Yes, in both modes.
I don't even have to know your character, but I know you'd get trounced before you could even blink. But it's okay, it's the first step towards becoming More Than You Could Ever Be

>Though she's a super villain so it's not really a good comparison.
The Boss isn't a villain, she's the TRUEST Patriot this country has ever seen

>>49737206
>Though she's a super villain so it's not really a good comparison.
I think the other anon is refering to his PC being a super villain.

>>49737081
>and a lot more elegant than anything else in Metal Gear
I disagree. Solid Snake's arch was very elegant in MG-MGS4, as was Raiden's up until MGR.

>But maybe I was just tricked by how PUMPED I was throughout the entire game, that excitement bled over into excitement for the story
That was probably it honestly. I loved Sundowner because he was FUCKING INVINCIBLE, it took me a little while to realize that he doesn't have much else going for him.

>>49737231
*Solid Snake's arc

>>49737231
Well, I did think Sundowner was super flat from the start. In fact, he really didn't fit in with the other Winds of Destruction at all, since he didn't care one bit about Armstrong's ideals.

>>49737260
Honestly, the only memorable Wind was Monsoon.

>>49737290
>Sam
>Not memorable
Get the fuck out of my goddamn face right now. Your taste is irredeemable garbage.

>>49737303
Was Sam a Wind? IIRC he was just with Desperado.

>>49737325
He had a wind nickname, so I assume he was.

>>49737335
Looking at the Metal Gear wiki, he apparently wasn't.

>>49719342
Most current character is a crafting focused Twilight Caste Solar. My poor boy would probable be dumpstered.

>>49736439
They don't try to science much of it away at all.

Volgin can punch holes through solid metal. Why? Biolightning mutant! Raiden can take on dozens of elite operatives with no arms. Why? Cyborg ninja! Psycho Mantis can hurl shit around with his thoughts. Why? Psychic! The Sorrow can conjure ghosts. Why? Spiritual medium!

None of these are actual explanations, if you'll notice. They're just there, they're taken completely at face value with characters rarely if ever being more than mildly surprised (And usually for reasons other than HOLY SHIT THAT'S SUPERNATURAL), and the setting loses no consistency for their presence. The magical realism aspect basically means that the more fantastical elements are A) fairly low key and B) Not treated as overly spectacular by any character who observes them.

>>49737373
He basically was, just not officially. His codename was Minuano.

>>49719342
Shadowrun Elf Cyberninja.
Probably yes.

>>49719342
My current character is a Russian Vitalist.

Hell no I wouldn't beat the Boss, I'd probably be on her team right up until Snake murders me on his way to her and Volgin.

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>>49736120
Lol your adorable

>>49743300
Tumblr get out REEEE

/tg/, I've been meaning to run a one-off MG-inspired game for a long time. It's about five(or how many players I'll have) people working for different secret agencies who's missions led them into a same car of a very suspicious train. One else is on the train and no one knows where it's going. The people don't know each other per se but each of them had their life seriously influenced by one person - a Boss-style character. They might also have old scores to settle with other agents, something to do with shady MG-style operations they may have participated in on different sides.

Each character knows some stuff about the setting and the geopolitical situation the other don't and also has access to some weird sci-fi spy shit. I wanted one to be more of a usual cold era spy with a MKUltra twist, possessing and being addicted to strange designer drugs. The second dude is a WWII soldier who went through a prototype full-body cybernetisation after a failed operation. He's have cool integrated spy gadgets and what not. The third agent would have half of his brain replaced by a computer and have appropriate powers. The forth guy has gone through an experimental brain surgery and abuses his new multiple personality syndrome for fun and profit. The fifth one would have to deal with being a clone or NANOMACHINES or both, I'm not sure yet.

They are probably being transpored to a site that houses a seed AI starting a hard take-off where they'll have to ability to decide what the AI would be like and what it should do with the humans.

Anyone has any ideas for inspiration? May be a book or a movie?

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>>49735600

I've always found the Boss attractive, her personality also helps in that department.

>>49720620
that sounds very platonic

>>49737021
the best story of the series is MG2: SS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfUB376xvU

This right here made me feel things I didn't want to feel

But then it leads to something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4goJID2X9U

And I just don't understand how a series can make me feel so many conflicting emotions at once

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>>49729703
>>49729866
Dude, I am totally down with my character joining Cobra.

>>49736078
I've been on this site for over a decade and I have no idea what it means. You kids track in so much shit from reddit that I can't even keep it all straight anymore.

>>49720387
That just sounds like kojima doesn't have a scientific explanation for all the weird shit he wants to add in his stories.

>nanomachines
>gene therapy
>vr training
>cyborg ninjas
>foxdie
>nanomachines again
>genetic clones

>>49719342
Against a feminist wet dream anachronism, the only weapon you need is statistical fact.

>>49719342

Yeah winning with something like an epic DnD wizard is possible though it will take some time and you'll need to be even more paranoid than usual.

I played a character who could probably take her in a straight hand to hand fight but only because his whole shtick was surviving any beating and pushing forward. And he had enough skill to block crippling and killing strikes. Though still sucked vs magic. It's hard to be a 'not monk' in a DnD world.

>>49748507
you forgot parasites

>>49738633
>Not treated as overly spectacular by any character that observes them.

Absolutely true. With the exception of Raiden in the first half of MGS2 where he serves as a sort of surrogate for the player, providing a fresh, sane eye for all the fantastic happenings and madness that characters in MGS find mundane.

>>49747637

You do understand that the actual meaning of the word "meme" is a viral idea or piece of information and not an internet in-joke?

>>49750540
Well Raiden's a VR soldier, he's not used to the absolute insanity of special ops at that point. I think his use as being able to look at Snake from the outside was used well.

>>49750634
Not to mention that Meme was the main theme of MGS2 and Kojima's been using the concept seriously in his works since then?

>>49720875
For myself everything up to Snake Eater is 'old' MGS, and Subsistence and later is 'new'.

>>49728129
I wasn't aware that 'melodramatic' has such a negative connotation, I just meant like, big emotions. I absolutely adore Kojima's style of storytelling.

>>49747108
I would fucking KILL for an MGS about Boss when she was younger. Not too much younger, WWII is played out, but what about her in Korea? Korean War era Boss (mid 30s) sneaking around slitting Commie throats in China.

It'd be the first good game ever set in the Korean War, and you'd get to play the best girl of all years.

Plus the Japanese fucking hate Koreans, so they wouldn't pull any punches.

>>49737290

>Sam
>The only human in the MGS universe that can double jump - wihtout cybernetic implants.
>Not memorable

Fucking lalilulelos get off my haven.

>>49754693
>he can't say it
>he took the nanomachines
>laughingsnakes.jpg

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>Dante must die mode: Ideologies only

>>49754693
Well... he has the suit, man. It's based on the same tech as Solidus' muscle suit and later Solid Snake's (though that was more nuanced and designed to make his physical age less of a disadvantage).

Actually, one thing I like about this series is that you can kind of see where each wild and wacky piece of kit came from, all the way back to the beginning. Design elements repeat themselves, if only subtly.

>>49735586
>Boss's philosophy is literally the underpinning of the entire series you mook.
Fuck off. Metal Gear existed before Snake Eater.

>>49753202
Also, the guns of the time combined with proto-CQC would be an interesting mix. Without much in the way of advanced silenced weapons or whatever, you'd have to rely on getting up close and personal a lot.

>>49719342
17th level battlemaster fighter with tough and tavern brawler so yes, i would kick her shit in

>>49756150
>zizek.jpg

>>49757661
The Boss is epic-level.

>>49757661
That line of thinking will fuck you over, prepare to get rekt kiddo

>>49751938
Melodrama implies that it's the sort of cringe-y drama that you can't take seriously because it feels forced. MGS is certainly silly at times but it never reaches a point where you can't get invested.

But yeah, I get what you mean.

>>49757661
Nope

Your levels don't mean shit. You can only beat the boss if your current character arc is complete.

>>49729479
Prepare to be betrayed by your memes.

>>49757720
Your point is? Snake beat her as a nobody-shlub
>>49757732
>being confident means you lose
>>49758100
My character arch ended through a series of high-stakes rolls over a few hours of my last couple sessions, im ready

>>49719342
She can't see stands, so I can just punch-ghost the hell out of her.

>>49759731
>Snake beat her

Except he didn't, she literally lost on purpose.

And Snake wasn't even a shlub at that point.

>>49759731
Take the comparison in reference, the thing is that in the metal gear universe she is the pinnical, she's at the top of the food chain and no one will ever be able to take that spot. Your character is just another level 17 character with many more people at that level and exceeding it.

>>49757061

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Kojima had the core concepts for MGS3 in mind while working on 2.

MG and MG2 are probably different and off the top of my head MGS1 was more about genes and nuclear weapons.

Still that doesn't change the fact that lorewise the Boss's philosophy is the reason why the events covered in most, if not all of the Metal Gear games, occur.

>>49759731

>Your point is? Snake beat her as a nobody-shlub

Regardless of whether he actually beat her or she lost on purpose, Naked Snake wasn't a nobody. He had already been her disciple for years and his training was seemingly over.

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>>49753202
I don't particularly care about the boss and would have rather seen the series continue to the 90's again

>3 comes out, get hyped they might make it to MG except not on the MSX
>V's ending
>knowing that it'll NEVER EVER happen
FUCK

I just want a game where you play AS the team of bosses.

>>49757745
>>49751938
>>49728129
https://youtu.be/iBumP2UV0SM?t=427 Here, have MGS music as an overlay on forced Melodrama.

I found the juxtaposition of those scenes fascinating.

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>>49748535
>falling prey to the feminist meme instead of respecting The Boss

You are being played like a goddamn fidle.

>>49727900
You just sound like a MGS boss waiting to happen. You just need an emotion for your code name. "The Angst" maybe?

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>>49732142
I consider myself a newfag after having been here for 7 years, so I am at a loss for what to even call this. Either old-school bait or neo-natalfag.

>>49770800
If we use Foxhound style codenames, how does Necromantic Squirrel sound?

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>>49732142

>>49773125
>Necromantic
too long

you are now Seance Squirrel

>>49719342
Shouldn't be to hard. I don't have a -4 strength handicap.

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>>49773458

>>49768402
killian is so fucking good

>>49773458
>-4 strength handicap
>The Boss
Methinks she gets a +100 bonus or something.