Gimme some good historical looking art or I'll bum ya good.
>>49656756
>>49656756
'Kay
>>49656763
>>49656779
>>49656793
>>49656763
He said good and historical.
Not shit and unrealistic.
>>49656791
>>49656811
>>49656830
>>49656825
I have a hard time finding the unrealistic in what anon posted.
>>49656825
Well, fucknut, that is entirely realistic save for the fact that the sword is a bit thick. If it's the fact that it's a woman with a sword, I'll tell you that in medieval germanic society (of which she is clearly part of) there are plenty of situations where a woman would at least hold a sword. In fact, she's not even armored and clearly isn't using the sword properly. Yeah, I don't like SJW nonsense either, but this is fine, realistic, and sets an interesting scene.
>>49656854
>>49656875
>>49656895
Shit, I was gonna post that. Anyone know what it's from?
>>49656895
>>49656916
>>49656906
I tried to figure that out, got a lot of french results.
>>49656957
>>49656977
>>49656988
>>49656988
Yes, that elephant shall be my battle mount. It looks ready.
>>49656825
Cri mor bich boi
>>49656872
Oh, also, I said historical LOOKING. Also I'm OP.
>>49656895
This is well after the iron age m8.
>>49656872
It's cartoony as fuck.
Now does anyone have any rodeleros?
>>49656872
lol calm down sperg. The sword is of completely wrong design for someone dressed in celtic garb.
>>49657031
>>49657296
Yeah, it's not like there was hugely significant and sustained contact between the celts and the germanics or anything.
>>49657338
So which part of that sword is clearly saxon design? besides being so generic it could belong to anyone.
>>49657371
Germanic*
>>49657371
Did I say Saxon?
Why did you jump to that conclusion, anon? Are you sure it doesn't intuitively seem Saxon to you?
In any case it is a migration period sword, which is of generally Germanic design.
>>49657421
Lol no it's not.
>>49657642
but it is
>>49656756
>>49657296
Not necessarily celtic, just germanic in general. You see that kind of garb all over northern europe. And that is only very subtly unusual for a germanic sword. The only innacurate at all thing I see is that I haven't seen a cross-guard quite like that, but it seems pretty accurate overall.
I haven't seen any cloaks like that, but whatever, seems fine.
>>49657707
>>49657719
>>49657732
>taking all those pikes for your mates
>>49657820
>>49657832
>>49657713
He's referring to the celtic knot, I think. The red hair probably has something to do with it.
The cross guard is not actually large, I think. I think the idea is supposed to be that the girl is small and the sword looks large in her hands. Classic child hero stuff.
>>49657840
>>49657854
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>>49657247
>Grappling lizard
>>49657879
>>49657879
>Spear Jesus has come to save us from bagpipe players
This is a religion I would gladly die for.
>>49657985
Wasn't it that the paintings of this time shows the bowmen putting the arrow on the other side?
>>49657891
>>49657939
Me too anon, me too
>>49658071
>>49658025
Archery is done a lot of ways around the world
>>49658144
>>49658381
>>49658398
>>49658413
Basketmen o.p.
>>49658846
>>49656977
>completely unpainted marble buildings
>>49658868
>>49658880
I've heard about statues, but not about entire buildings being painted. That sounds cool, do you know of any illustrations of it?
>>49658884
>>49658969
>>49658983
Africa is finally catching up
>>49659008
...
>>49658884
Fighting the Huns must have been... otherworldly for many
>>49659036
>>49659047
>>49659057
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>>49658899
Not necessarily the entire building, though this was sometimes the case, but the pediment (the triangular section below the roofline) and the frieze (band below the pediment), as well as the column capitals would always be painted.
Do an image search for "greek temple painted"; "greek architecture painted"; "roman temple paint" or something like that to give a better idea. Also keep in mind that modern images are largely speculation. A lot of the painted sculpture examples you see are really bad, and I'm sure the originals were more attractive.
Contrary to depictions shown in modern media, the ancient world DID have a color palette beyond black, white, and brown. It can be jarring for modern eyes, but once you get over it, you realize it's much nicer.
>>49659117
I've always wondered why people are so blown away by this revelation.
Why wouldn't people in the past decorate their homes and buildings with color like we do?
>>49659144
They probably dont think about it since they see all the pictures of it being white such as the parthenon and the colloseum.
>>49659144
If anything, it's modern buildings that are bland and colorless. People today live in homes with white walls and brown or black furniture. It's almost unthinkable to paint artwork on the walls, but in the ancient world you were pure plebcore if you lived in a home without murals.
As for modern media depictions, it's a symbolic thing. They want to show that the wold was more ruthless, and less comfortable than the modern day. GRITTIER. And to indicate this GRITTINESS, they need to make everyone wear brown and black. Because that's what GRITTY people do. You can't be GRITTY if you're wearing colorful clothing.
>>49657247
someone explain to me how a grappling lizard works. I get that it climbs up the wall for them with the rope but... did they train the lizard to tie a fucking knot up there too?
>>49659256
>If anything, it's modern buildings that are bland and colorless. People today live in homes with white walls and brown or black furniture. It's almost unthinkable to paint artwork on the walls
I think your sample size may be a bit lacking anon, because my experience disagrees. But then, this is one of those things that's extremely subjective depending on who you spend time with.
>>49659287
I think hes right if you look up any new houses its almost always this bland neutral colour, while most people keep it that way so they dont have to repaint the walls if they have to sell it.
>>49659128
>Thou hast entered the wrong village, knave
>>49657247
>"Dammit Pajeet, this is not the time to walk one of your pets!"
>>49657836
>smells like Geoneseshit
>>49656872
>medieval germanic society
Nigger what? She looks dark age, sure, medieval is way too late for shit like that to be common enough to be realistic.
It's unlikely that in the rare situations where women did bear arms, they had swords, which were symbols of rank.
>>49661843
>medieval is way too late for shit like that to be common enough to be realistic.
Are you kidding me? That's quintessentially early-middle ages right there.
>It's unlikely that in the rare situations where women did bear arms, they had swords, which were symbols of rank.
She's clearly not a warrior on a battlefield or anything. She looks like she just escaped are raid with the family sword or something. I thought it was an interesting prompt. Why does this sad girl with no armor have a sword way too big for her? Is she just being taught or is this an emergency situation? That's an interesting scene, as I said before.
Anyway, even if it's not that, this does not suspend belief to the point that it is illegitimate for a historical looking art thread. I mean, though it's more a late high-medieval thing, it was not extremely uncommon for people to use a sword as a weapon of self defense. Sure they were the weapons of the higher-classes, but who's to say this girl isn't a noble? She's wearing fine patterned clothes with knots and everything.
>>49661994
It's from the comic NORTHLANDERS. It's not one continuous narrative, but a collection of unrelated stories which each last only a few issues. The writing is embarrassing, and the lack of through research is grating to anyone who's studied the time period, but they do have a different artist work on each story, which is very nice. I can't remember much from the story for that pic, tho. And yes, she's just some girl who picked up a sword. She's not supposed to be some warrior-princess or whatever.
>>49662051
(continued)
Also, everything in that image is perfectly fine as far as historical accuracy goes.
>>49657247
It doesn't look "cartoony" at all. You are an idiot.
>>49659256
Dyed fabric was expensive and dyes were far less stable. A lot of people did use undyed fabric, or fabrics dyed black because black pigment's easy as shit to produce.
>>49662126
Yes, undyed fabric was common for clothing, with frequency of use depending on the time and place. But in movies/tv shows/whatever that take place in "ye olde days" (real world or pseudo-historical fictional world), pretty much everyone is wearing bland clotting, in browns or blacks. Even the rich, who are often wearing some kind of weird dark leather shirts. It's ridiculous.
If we look at medieval Europe as one example, even commoners would own dyed clothing. Exclusively wearing black/brown garments was notable as being something that only monks did. And don't even get me started on the lack of patterned or embroidered clothing. Historically, aesthetic sensibilities have almost always been more vibrant than what is popular today.
>>49656825
Calm your tits. It's a panel from a comic about several centuries of Northmen. The sword lady isn't actually a warrior or anything like a medieval sjw-boogeywoman. She's the dead Thane's daughter, and she's about to execute the idiot who beat her and tried to take over (her father's vassals are holding him for her).
The reason?They're already gonna die because an army of Christians are about to murderfuck them all so they really just want to kill the cuntiest one of them and do something nice for the little lady who was loyal to them first.
>>49659036
>>49659047
What. Explain.
>>49656829
The fuck is this? That armor makes no sense. More importantly why is he wearing that shit and there is no helmet to be found? If you can only bring one piece of armor make it a fucking helmet!
>>49662401
Northlanders was fucking dumb, and I hate that fact that Brian 'Wallpaper' Wood is the only major writer that does historical comics.
>>49662451
Huns practiced skull binding
>>49662401
>calm your tits
Seems the only one getting mad here is you.
>>49656988
>That elephant is HOLDING A SWORD
Is this realistic? Can an Indian elephant be trained to swing a sword around? I know you can train an elephant to tip his fedora like an enlightened gentleman, but a sword?
>>49662451
It's skull bidning, it's a thing all over the world (The other big place is peru)
Babies have really soft heads and their skulls aren't fully formed when they're born, mainly so they don't get their heads crushed while being born
Anyway if you bind a babies head when it's tiny as the skull plates bind together it will shape the head into strange shapes, it's thought that it was meant to be a socially stratification thing or something intimidate the Hun's enemies
>>49663822
Wouldn't that cause significant brain damage though?
>>49663841
Not that I'm aware of, I mean if it did I doubt the huns would have been able to destroy multiple roman armies
>>49658135
Rather sure those aren't Illyrians but rather iberians or celto-iberians.
>>49656906
>>49656957
It's a french illustrator called Pierre Joubert, he's one of France's most profillic illustrators for history magazines/textbooks/kid's books.
>>49664307
He was also the official illustrator for various french boy scout books/manuals/posters.
It's pretty clear he was heavily into shota.
>>49663600
Well in one instance, elephants brought to Roman carnivals to be killed in spectator combat were able to disarm their attackers shields and hurl them like discusses, so it should be entirely possible to teach them to effectively wield a sword.
>>49664341
I don't really think it would be effective, but it would have a frightening effect.
>not only can you get stomped
>you can get stomped and then stabbed!
>>49664326
I'm more of a /ss/ guy but damn those are some pretty boys
>>49664326
Oh shit, that takes me back to my time in boyscouts, building tripod constructions like that was fun as hell. We kind of helped deforest a campsite building them, but it was worth it.
>>49664326
some more of his historical stuff
>>49664373
>all shota Joubert SoL series when
>>49664392
I know right, shit was cash.
Also for the record french boy scouts never wore those short shorts, that's Joubert's subconcious kicking in.
when not drawing little boys, his art was GOAT though.
>>49664480
>>49656756
Jeff Burn does some fine character art as well for older books like Warfare in the Classical Age. Always enjoyed them since I was a kid.
>>49664622
>>49656957
>>49656906
It's from the "Au temps..."-series, a bunch of them were curated by Pierre Miquel.
>>49658868
Eh, they were a type of shock cavalry with little armour and only swords for sidearms.
>>49658899
Painted scultures and architectural details were the norm for pretty much all of human history until that gay german faggot declared that all statues of naked dude should be white so that you couldn't tell his cum stains from the surfarce any longer. Fucking Winkelmann, man.
>>49664326
His other boys aren't quite as erotic as those though. Seems like a case of him trying to illustrate closer to the popular style of the period.
>>49663841
Well, it would explain why they thought it was a great idea in the first place...
>>49663841
>Wouldn't that cause significant brain damage though?
So does bulimia.
>>49664953
>>49662097
>It doesn't look "cartoony" at all
How is it possible to be this wrong.
>>49659277
It's apocryphal, so it doesn't. The idea was that a monitor lizard would climb up a certain distance and then just sit there, grasping the wall. Monitor lizards are strong, so you could feasibly rest all your weight on them.
But the main theory is that a guy called Pajeet Monitorlizard was the first person to scale the walls in this siege, which eventually turned into actual monitor lizards supposedly being used to scale the walls.
>>49663841
It has no effect. Cutting out half the whole brain doesn't cause significant brain damage. The brain is very malleable.
>>49662126
Only a few colors are exceedingly expensive, like purple and blue. Red, yellow, green, brown, and black as you mentioned are all fairly cheap and easy to find.
>I realize I didn't mention some colors.
>>49665299
>and blue
I think blue's the most pleb of all dyes though. It's just that specific shades of blue colour - colour, not dye - required gemstones as a basis.
>>49662451
Original poster here. What >>49663574 and >>49663822 said are correct. What's even more interesting is that because the Huns were so successful, other tribes began emulating it. Maybe there were hoping to be just as successful. Maybe they thought it looked cool. The Germanic tribes that both fled them and fought them did it too. Not nearly as common as it was among the Huns, but enough that we have some evidence for it
>>49664143
I thought so too, but the Roman equipment looks too early to be used in the campaigns within Iberia. So I just figured it had to be Illyrians. I never checked though so I won't say "NO YOU"RE WRONG"
>>49663841
It just grows into the new shape
>>49664502
Does anyone have anything else like this? Rebuilding and daily life in ancient ruins?
>>49668236
Shit is crazy when you think about it. I know one of the cities in the south of France was greatly reduced in population after the fall of the Roman empire and the barbarian invasions. Since the infrastructures collapsed and went to shit, people started living in the circus, since all the rest of the city was pretty much destroyed and abandonned.
It's really like an apocalypse scenario
>>49668236
The book that one's from is all about non-warfare-related life, so pretty much all city-scenes are set in roman cities.
>>49665079
>anything not attempting complete realism is cartoony
>anything not attempting complete realism is shit. the quality of artwork is based on how realistic it looks
Everyone, gather round! Look at the rare spotted dipshit in its natural habitat!
>>49668236
I got a few. It's crazy to think too that after the barbarians burned all the books, ate all the Roman grain, and tore down the last statues that their children would look around and seek to rebuild the very thing their parents destroyed.
They look back on Rome like some magical kingdom. It would be like the world ending tomorrow and our children looking back on things like electricity and phone technology. Roman tech like pumps, fountains, large scale building, and so on were all amazing to them. It really must have been a shitty time to live. Looking at your parents like "what the fuck did you snowniggers do?"
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>>49668956
>>49663841
Nort really; the brain grows into the space it is given.
Unless that is you overdo it, in which case you get concussions and internal blleding really easily (a natural skull allows for some wiggle room).
>>49668971
>>49668986
This is how the Huns did it
>>49668989
>>49668940
They never really "burned the books, and tore down the statues." Roman civilization was already declining and morphing into something different on its own. The barbarians moved in and took over, and most of the time it wasn't even violent since they WERE the Roman military at that point. It was more of a slow crumbling than a catastrophe.
>>49664707
>Painted scultures and architectural details were the norm for pretty much all of human history until that gay german faggot declared that all statues of naked dude should be white so that you couldn't tell his cum stains from the surfarce any longer. Fucking Winkelmann, man.
Meh, I prefer unpainted marble over the garish colors they apprently used.
Marble is a great canvas for light to show off the details of a piece.
Slapping a thick coat of colours on it fells kinda wrong to me.
>>49669004
I'm too roman for this bullshit.
>>49669004
Well, didn't seem to have stopped them from fighting anyway.
I probably got it mixed up with those South American skulls.
Read somewhere that they probably were some sort of priests or royalty, since they sure as hell weren't able to do much physical work.
>>49669076
You know the painted "reproductions" that love seen aren't really accurate representations, right? It wasn't some "thick coat just slapped on"; the painting would have been just as careful and proficient as the sculpting.
>>49669160
edit: "love?"
You've
>>49668940
Nah, the Germans only really put the official stamp on it, the EMpire had been fracturing for ages before that, for literally dozens of reasons.
And while the decline of the empire kinda took the "top" of civilizatrion, for a lot of towns and villages, life probably didn't change all that much.
>>49669175
Wouldn't it still have been just a few basic colours though?
Anyway, I realize I'm being a bit of a sjizhead, but for me , pure marble will always look better than painted, no matter the skill.
One of the few inaccuracies, I'll gladly accept in "historical" movies, along with all the probably bullshit but fun stuff from Herodotus.
>>49669160
They're three things - first they're an interpretation based on whatever remains of pigments were found on the object and second they probably didn't bother with anicent pigment.
Finally, they were most likely repainted in hues that feel right to a current-day person, which are going to be pretty strong and flashy compared to what folks could economically achieve back in the days.
>>49669160
They probably weren't gunning for subtle effects on statues that were to be placed at quite a distance from their viewers. I mean, late antique portrait got pretty good in its life-likeness, but ancient art generally wasn't too concerned with photo-realism.
>>49669804
plz gibe saus
>>49670275
Mail masks have always looked fucking cool
>>49669181
Yep - you can especially see this in Southern France, which in some sense remained very 'Roman' after it stopped really being Roman at all.
>>49673422
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>>49670275
Moar pls
>>49673473
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>>49664448
And now, some more Pierre Joubert...
>>49673773
>>49673791
(self-portrait of the author if he saw >>49673761 )
>>49673809
>>49663822
I never heard about the Huns specifically doing it. Interesting.
>>49673820
I'm not saying it was ancestral aliens but...
The Luxor temple, converted into a Roman army base during late 3rd/early 4th century.
>>49673994
Diocletianic officers standing in front of the first pylon of Luxor
>>49664431
That's from "La vie privée des hommes au temps des Vikings" (Hachette, 1982).
>>49674078
>>49674078
I love the textures on the leather in this one.
Still one of my favorites.
I wish these were higher resolution, fuck.
Anyone have any historical/semi-historical settings for D&D? Or some books/material about such a thing?I realize I could just google it but I'm lazy and just want to say something instead of posting textless pictures
>>49669029
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>>49675394
Not ethnically a Turk, he's most likely a varangian in the service of the Khan
>>49675402
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>>49675501
>Bring it on!
https://youtu.be/Khyzj5toqwA?t=6s
>>49675523
Now some Khan posting
>>49656756
I love this thread, but I spend too much time copy-pasting every single picture. Any way I can download en masse?
Also, where can I download Angus McBride's stuff?
>>49675544
>checked
Tengri blesses me
>>49675555
Quads demand it:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern
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>>49675599
>checked
Praise the Eternal Blue Sky
>>49673820
Such an awesome time when women were considered spoils of war.
>>49675624
Yeah... sure
>>49675619
>>49675638
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>>49675667
Just how "frank" were the Franks in order for us to call somebody out for being "frank"?
>>49675696
>>49675707
>>49656793
>>49656811
Vikings almost exclusively used spears and almost never wore helmets
>>49658413
>that guy in the wicker shell
this image is reaction image gold
>>49675743
FEAR THE BASKET MAN!
>>49675735
>>49656916
not remotely realistic
>>49675755
>>49674307
the jester is a real guy, pretty interesting dude from Polish History
>>49675786
Just look at her.
Ready to slay some Slavs, assassinate the Avars, hunt down the Huns, rape the Romans, and castrate the Celts
>>49675823
Fitting, she is the last image in the thread
>>49675755
Well never be defeated, we have grain and water to last us for months!
S-sir! One of there siege engines!
What is it man? Spit it out!
Its a ballista man! And hes c-coming up in a Basket.
Abandon all hope, ye who enter the dark abyss
>>49673809
Did this poofter draw any women, or is it twinks and historicals all the way down?
>>49675742
>Vikings almost exclusively used spears
So did everyone else, but an axe or a sword, especially by the 900s and 1000s when the vikings were all over europe by trade and even by politics, they would have an equal amount as to the other peoples, and
>and almost never wore helmets
Helmets were *uncommon*, but if they could get them they would, and again, 917 is two hundred years into the viking era and they would have them more oft than not
>>49656756
Just search for Graham Turner on pinterest
>>49674009
I don't know, but these two look like two bureaucrats who screwed up badly and where reassigned there because of it, away from their cozy houses in Mediolanum to the Egyptian desert.
>>49666860
Could be celtic/iberian mercenaries during the Punic Wars.The guy in the foreground with the Thracian helm could certainly be a carthaginian.