They are forcing this Nissa and Chandra romance shit way too hard.

I don't know if you understand what 'forcing' or 'romance' means

In the last lore story it talked about them being "friends."

>Chandra smiled and shook her head. "You're a good friend, Nissa."

>It doesn't make any sense, Nissa thought. We're Planeswalkers. We're part of the Gatewatch. We promised to help protect the Multiverse—there's so much good we can do for so many people.

>But I just want to stay here.

>She sat down beside Chandra and Mrs. Pashiri.

>With my...my friend.

Because the best ship is friendship, of course!

Does anyone actually care about current MtG """lore"""
Just a bunch of the blandest mary sue not-capeshit protagonists prancing around 2 dimensional worlds with SJW crap shoehorned in.

>They are forcing this [planeswalker] and [planeswalker] shit way too hard
gotta get that avengers gravy train bro have some more respect for the shitty fucking story

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>>49631440

>>49632466
You might not care about the story, but others do.

>>49631440

It's fine it'll backfire, i'm already tired of the Jacetice league and it's only been 2.5 blocks

Jace and Chandra was infinitely worse

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>>49631440
Why are they both so hideous there?

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>>49632521
A best

>>49632505
Not until that movie anon!

>>49631440
I want Gideon and Liliana to be a thing.

Badly.

>>49632703
That'd be some incredible hatesex.

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>>49634031
I know, right? It'd be great.

>>49632497
Get out of here MaRo

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It's not really that forced.
Heavy handed, perhaps, but forced would mean they must be generally incompatible or something. But they're RG, allied colors, shared an intimate spiritual moment, Chandra saved her literal plane, Nissa doesn't have any real issue with pyromancy at all, nor does Nissa represent the dispassionate white order that drives Chandra to fury, likewise nothing in Chandra represents the lack of natural harmony that would turn Nissa away, etc. etc.
They're compatible enough for something more to happen there, so long as they have enough time in each other's presence.

>>49631440
Kill all dykes. Give no acceptance to faggotry.

>>49632624
Are you joking? I hope so.

>>49634305
Are those the fukken tubes from bionicle movie??

>>49632466
>Just a bunch of the blandest mary sue not-capeshit protagonists prancing around 2 dimensional worlds with SJW crap shoehorned in.

I think this sums up the story in one sentence.

>>49635125
>Ajani's back now
>He still has her cloak
>Bolas is already confirmed for the next setting
>Only one place to go after that if Ajani is still kicking

Jacetice League is about to be taught about five different lessons over the span of two blocks.

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>>49632505
As soon as I heard the name "Gatewatch" I thought it was a joke

The idea we that we have to be tied to Jace and the Scooby Doo gang for every fucking block is fucking horrifying

>>49635596
But anon, focus groups tell us that Magic's customers love these characters.

>>49635536
>Jacetice League is about to be taught about five different lessons over the span of two blocks.

Nah, they'll keep winning everything forever.

>>49634031
Going by the Guilds of Ravnica, a good amount of coin would change hands.
From whose to whose, that's anybody's guess.

>>49635625
I'm sure that a majority of casual players like this but I think it will be bad in the long run

I like to compare the planeswalkers to StarWars Jedi and force and lightsabers and shit. Sure, they are very awesome and you want more but the fact it was used sparingly and that it was left mysterious made it more interesting. Infact the planeswalkers aren't really all that interesting.

I feel like a majority of players will experience burnout now that Jace and pals are going to be in every single block and every single deck and everything.

>>49635687
>Infact the planeswalkers aren't really all that interesting
Planeswalkers are legitimately the only interesting thing in MtG's setting.
Without planeswalkers the entire fucking spectrum of existence becomes meaningless. Who cares what happens on Theros if Elspeth wasn't there? Theros could burn to the ground and every inhabitant could get raped to death and nobody would blink because Theros is meaningless without a planeswalker to give it meaning. Who cares about Mirrodin? Now it's Phyrexia, but did anyone actually care about the mirran population? No. We cared about what was going on with Karn. Anything interesting going on in Kamigawa? No. Kamigawa is boring and everyone hated it. Because nothing on Kamigawa mattered. Kamigawa was dumb, and a mistake.
I can guarantee you there would be nothing interesting about Kaladesh either. Do you care about aetherborn huffing magicocaine? I don't.
Without planeswalkers, everywhere becomes disconnected, trite, and generally not worth thinking about.

>>49635536
>they're all lessons that they learn about friendship when they cast aside any remaining differences and judgements in order to nuke and destroy bolas by the end of amonkhet

>>49635687
Not even so much walkers in general

Dovin Baan is pretty cool, I'd love to see more of him. Also we have zero gonti and kambal, these cool as fuck characters who get no spotlight. I'd say that the gatewatch can get more stories and interactions between sets, but we should get a little more in plane fluff during this point in time. Either that or wizards could put out more stuff, though maybe asking for higher quality is a bigger priority at the moment

>>49632217
Needs more handholding.

I have the perfect opener to a NissaXChandra shipfic.
>The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault...okay I tell a lie,it kind of was my fault but I didn't do it intentionally.

>>49635982
>Jace instantly pisses himself at the mention of Bolas
>Ajani explicitly warns them 'don't fucking touch Bolas'
>Gideon disregards it amd goes to talk the dragon down (Failing miserably)
>Chandra realizes she's not the only one who can toss a giant fireball
>Nissa realizes 'Oh shit I probably shoukdn't be here'
>Liliana is already four planes away

Can't wait.

>>49635536
>Jacetice League is about to be taught about five different lessons over the span of two blocks.

like overcoming a generic "tough period" and establishing Bolas and his Legion of Doom?

It's generic comic book schlock. Soon enough the MtG story is going to end up on /co/

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I would love for Nissa and Chandra to die in this set, surrounded and utterly outmatched by the Phyrexians. This would be shortly after they become lesbian lovers, but have only kissed and fondled breasts and have not yet brought each other to orgasm. The phyrexians would surround them and Chandra would blast them with fire even hotter than her passion for Nissa but it would not kill all of them, and the Phyrexian beasts would keep coming. Nissa would set her vines to strangle some of them but the others slash their way through with blades of blackest iron. The planeswalkers share one last kiss, knowing their time has come, then fight arm in arm, clinging to each other as the Phyrexian blades pierce their soft female flesh, ripping out their intestines. They scream in agony, begging dead gods for mercy as the Phyrexians stab them to death. Even as Chandra's blood pours down her luscious thighs she continues to pour flame into the Phyrexian horde, melting their half-metal bodies. They finally pin her down and wrench her mouth open, snaking their strange horrid devices down her throat to change her. She expires, and the phyrexians go to work resurrecting them as phyrex soldiers themselves. All will be integrated. The new Chandra and Nissa rise from the grave, half-metal, their once-budding love completely forgotten, left behind in the drying, syrupy blood on the battlefield that is the only uncorrupted part of them left.

>>49636077
>Bolas is Ultron
>Go to Theros next for Ajani v Gideon Civil War

Pottery.

>>49636100
>Gets utterly smegged by a big combined laser blast.
>"You know with the benefit of hindsight-"
>Gets punched into the sun by Garruk.

>>49635844
This post reeks of Maro.

>>49636096
Ow the edge. Also,

>Implying the Phyrexians will return before Elspeth
>Implying they'll be able to do anything once she's back.

>>49631652
fpbp

>>49636154

How was that edgy? It was meant to be touching. WotC needs to grow a pair and kill off some characters, its' the only way to keep this "story" interesting. Also:

> implying the most powerful faction in MtG's history will be shut down by some Mother Theresa bitch in armor

I mean, you may be right, but if you are I will have lost all respect for Magic lore.

>>49636096
keep us posted, virt

>>49631440
The cool looking creature in the background on the right, what is it?

>>49636212
> kill off some characters,
They already killed Venser and Elspeth anon.

>>49636899

Probably a lich or something. How the fuck does that look cool? You can barely even see it.

>>49632217
I've seen many fanfics with much better writing than that shit.

>reading through some of the lore for older sets
>new phyrexia/mirrodin besiged is a high concept philosophical take on evolution in a mechanical environment, with interesting bioorganic primarchs ruling the corrupt world of an absent artificial planeswalker, and how that planeswalker reconciles his pacifism with the unending horror of the universe around him
>kaladesh is "Oh look, we're at a fair, in sort-of-india, and lesibain romance maybe! Look at this brown girl who's also a planeswalker, I wonder what her backstory is and how the gatewatch will beat the badguys this time? Guess you just have to buy 4000 packs to maybe get a fancy art reprint artifact that vaguely references the fair. It's super important guys, how will the Jacetice Leauge *tm* save the day this time?"

>>49636934

Yeah and no one gives a shit about them. They need to go big. Jace, Chandra, or Lili. One of those three needs to die in a brutal, heartbreaking way. Like Negan beating the shit out of Glenn in the Walking Dead comics. That was the last time I felt real entertainment from something.

>>49634823
Seeing as there's a Magic movie in development, suddenly making the plot revolve around superhero ripoffs makes a lot of sense. It's not confirmed, but knowing hollywood's overall lack of creativity it's almost certain that this gatewatch bullcrap is just so they have a storyline to adapt.

>>49636958
I like the darkness, the armor-cloak and the blade arm. The imagination fills the rest of the gaps.

I'm testing some carcigenic stuff.

>>49637248
It's carcinogenic, and it worked, and 4chan is dead.

>>49637253
>and 4chan is dead.
no it isn't.

>>49636212
>He doesn't know about Elspeth killing mountains of Phyrexians
>He doesn't know literally all of her pre-Theros lore was her killing Phyrexians
>He doesn't know that Theros has her literally kill a god

Elesh Norn will look fantasic with her head mounted on the tip of Godsend.

>>49636975
>Nobody cares about Elspeth dying

You can stop typing now. Ajani would like to have several words with you.

>>49631440
>when it should be Liliana and Chandra

>>49637586
>People STILL don't accept a Jund Threesome.

>>49637606
I'm down for that

>>49637606
Liliana is the experienced old whore, and Nissa and Chandra are the young teens. Chandra is eager and reckless while Nissa is shy and reluctant. It works. Get on it, MaRo.

>>49637615
>>49637606
Nissa and Lili dislike each other, though. Not gonna happen.

>>49637703
>Start arguing over Chandra
>Ends in sex
>Chandra comes in
>Ends with MORE sex

girls can't love girls, it's forbidden

>>49637717
Yeass

>>49636100
I don't understand what 'pottery' stands for.
Care to explain?

>>49637703
It's called rape, anon. I want my Rakdos sex dungeon.

>>49637866
It means poetry

>>49637866
memetic corruption born of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

>>49638029
>not wanting chandra and nissa to punish lili for being an evil bitch

>>49638095
Anon, I get maybe Chandra, but how would Nissa punish anyone?

>>49638629
Green is the color of tentacle beasts.

So I really have not been keeping up with the fluff.

But I heard Garruk is now a bad guy?

Who the hell is the green representative?

>>49638924
Secret Hitler

>>49638970
I rather liked Garruk, being a badass beastmaster druid dude was ace.

>>49639014
>>49638924
So wait, is Garruk not dead? What happened to him?

>>49638671
I think that's mostly a blue thing, actually. Octopuses and krakens and whatnot. Part of the whole "water" theme.

>>49639492
Liliana hit him with a curse that fucked up his head and now he hunts people. Well, planeswalking people, specifically.

>>49639492
He was cursed using the Chain Veil and proceeded to nearly transform into a plane-killing demon when he wasn't tracking down and killing planeswalker. An unknown planeswalker working with Jace managed to hunt down Ob Nixilis, extract the hedron that had cursed him and plant it in Garruk after subduing him, preventing the curse from fully manifesting.

After that, Garruk decided to stay GB after he discovered that shit, he actually enjoyed the challenge of hunting down and killing planeswalkers. So now he's just wandering the planes, hunting down other planeswalkers for kicks.

>>49639571
That's gay as shit.

Who represents the Green side of MASSIVE FUCKING BEASTS?

I mean I'm sure with have some Elf bitch for elves.

Garruk "I bench press Wurms" was one of the most Iconic Planeswalkers.

>>49639625
>I mean I'm sure with have some Elf bitch for elves.
Oddly enough NIssa isn't particularly elf-tribal, she's just there because Green is trees and nature, much like how Chandra doesn't have anything particular in the way of passion or creativity, she just likes burning things and rebellion and fire. Nissa USED to be all about elves, because she was a seriously pro-Joraga elf bigot (which would have been the only reason I'd have bought her and the Lorwyn elves getting along) but they retconned that into oblivion. See also: Retconning Gideon into a literal nobody because they couldn't be bothered to stick with him being (or at least acting) significantly older than most of the other planeswalkers.

I cannot believe that the only member of the Gatewatch I actually like is Jace. If you had told me that five years ago I would have laughed and laughed and laughed.

>>49639625
Nissa is for land shenanigans, not for elves. That's her niche.

Garruk's still the representative of beasts, he just hasn't been seen in over two years.

Expect him in the next relevant set in which Liliana is the central character, which will either be Amonkhet (since we know one of her demon masters has an Egyptian name) or any one of the two blocks after that. He works as an established adversary of hers, from a literary point of view.

Will Jace ever get laid?

>>49640101
He already has. Him and Lili were a thing way back when, plus what do you think he does with those mind altering spells of his.

>>49640228
>what do you think he does with those mind altering spells of his
Cheats at card games?

>>49640374
If you want to call sex "strip poker", then yes.

>>49640228

you know how Jace never bathes and piss in bottles when he is in his man cave on Ravnica? he makes people forget that

>>49636072
You suck. I want the next Dresden files book to come out right the duck now, and you guys reminding me about it does not help.

>>49640453
Why didn't he just rent a man cave with a lavatory? It ought to pay off in the long run by saving him the cost of keeping his cave stocked with empty bottles.

>>49640498
>right the duck now
hello mobleposter-kun, how's the weather out there?

>>49639762
>I cannot believe that the only member of the Gatewatch I actually like is Jace.
Lily is fine.

>>49642137
Her character problems feel the most real, certainly.

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A reminder that Nissa is a monster. Sorin Markov did nothing wrong.

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>>49643229
>2012

>>49634305

Nissa is also a literal Elf Supremacist and fucked up her genocidal attempt at siccing the Eldrazi on some other plane instead of just resealing them.

>>49632466
I'm just so curious as to how the meeting where they decided that YES American Superhero Comics were the best model to base delivering better story content on.

I kill to be the fly on the wall there, just to hear the process behind the PR.

>>49631440
are you sure is not just them being pushed into becoming friends?

>>49643568
You have very low standards for what to kill for, then. Magic was doing comic-book-style good-guy-team vs. evil-guys stories long before you started playing in the first place. I don't get why people found this so surprising: post-mending 'walkers are practically fantasy infused superheroes anyway, and like I said they've done these kinds of plots before.

>>49634107
> "I'm not enjoying this..."
> "I'm totally enjoying this!"

>>49643694
Last time they did it it was literally the worst thing to ever happen to Magic.

>>49643876
Worse than Homelands? Heh, sorry, I know that's comparing a different thing.
In any case, it seems like they've got the idea that they've ironed out the wrinkles. I don't really know what the general perception has been of it outside of /tg/, but most people I know who play magic IRL seem to dig it.

>>49643972
While it is 95% unplayable, it has good lore, a good story, is oozing with flavor, and does a Planeswalker story properly.

>>49644014
Well, for better or worse, they changed what planeswalkers are a long time ago. What kind of stories are they supposed to tell now? Or was the Mending a mistake?

>>49644080
>Or was the Mending a mistake?

Kind of. Not exactly in changing what the Planeswalkers were, but in terms of how kind of dumb the entire thing is. Like most Dominaria stuff after like...Mirage, its a pretty silly story about planar disasters and asspulls. I wasn't playing when that happened, but in retrospect the sets seem really cool if you look at them just a nostalgia block. When you realize there's actually a story about time and space shifting or some shit, its pretty dumb.

>>49642137
Liliana is a villain. I don't like her as a member of the Gatewatch, because then I know that her being a selfish cunt is going to be excused.

>>49635844
No, planeswalkers are the only thing that MAKE mtg A setting. Without them it would be just a set of different non connected settings that are introduced as a way to make new sets with new art/feel/mechanics. That's because mtg is a card game, and as long as you don't want to make accompanying books, webcomics, or whatever, you want all the story there is to be told through the cards themselves. Of course, mtg is long past this point, plus now they obviously want to buy into the superheroes' popularity.
I may not know the statistics, but it seems to me that old ravnica block was pretty well liked, not because people wanted to know what was gonna happen to same random, underdeveloped faggot, but because the world was cool, and the mechanics suited it well. Old mirroring also had no planeswalkers in it until the appearance of karn at the very end, and though it made sense, it wasn't didn't suddenly make the story oh so important

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BRING ME BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!

>>49634107
They strangely have a lot in common but refuse to see eye to eye because he cannot believe she can care, and she cannot believe he can think for himself.

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More like they are forcing this retarded Jacetus league shit way too hard. When the fuck is the inevitable civil war-esque break up happening? When is Garruk coming back to fuck up everybody's shit?

>>49635844
>Who cares about Mirrodin? Now it's Phyrexia, but did anyone actually care about the mirran population? No. We cared about what was going on with Karn

McKill yourself.

>>49640567
When he became the guildpact he upgraded to a man cave inbetween dimensions with plenty of room and furnishings. The gatewatch has co-opted it to be their fortress of solitude, complete with Gideon putting a gym in it and Nissa planting a forest of a garden on the roof.

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Drawfag here.
Can't get to a scanner, so, here.

Apologies for potato phone.

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>>49634332

>>49647915
So he's literally just Doctor Strange now?

>>49650468
>>49647915
His new man cave/Gatewatch HQ is on Ravnica, not inbetween dimensions.

>>49631440
wait you guys are actually reading the magic the gathering lore?

>>49636212
If that's your definition of "touching" than you have a problem.
Unless you mean "touching your gory mindbreak fetishes".

>>49650514
Does his new place have a lavatory, or is he keeping up the habit of pissing in bottles?

>>49650514
Does his new place have a lavatory, or is he keeping up the habit of pissing in bottles?

>>49650669
Ravnica does have a sewer system, but it is unknown if Jace makes use of it.

>>49650675
I think he just pisses in a beer bottle and when it's full he throws it out of his window into the opened manhole.

>>49650736
Why would he be wasting time and money on buying beer instead of just pissing out the open window?

>>49635660
>Liliana: I give you 20 bucks, you give me 25 bucks, you end up with more money and we have sex. Deal?
>Gideon: [Sound of gears whirling] Deal

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Don't mind me, just being sexiest Planeswalker

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>>49651065
>Liking the scalie who literally ruined an entire timeline just to sate his fetish

>>49651266
But those eyes are to die for~

>>49651290
Red contacts and a purple streak of hair - I bet he's got tattoos as well.

>>49651266
The integrity of space-time is overrated.

>>49651387
Be still my beating heart~

>>49637606
Jund best three-color confirmed.

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>>49643704

This is why Lili's the best planeswalker. She always looks like she's having so much fun.