Where goes the line between being inspired by something, and

>>49619127
Whether I like it or not.

>>49619127
There's none, originality in art ( = enterainment) is a myth.

What matter is how good you are at doing what others did before you.

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>>49619127
Generally by how far down do you have to boil the concepts before they become identical.
For example, "all devouring horde of spess bugs" is a level at which that you can't point to any one horde and say it's ripping off another without additional details.

Those logos are themselves so simplistic that you may as well put picrelated (1997) between them.

>>49619276
The caduceus was meant as a symbol of trade, the rod of Asclepius was for medicine

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>>49619276
But anon that's an interesting look on how humanity would interpret it after thousands of years. Especially considering hoe important gene spliceing etc is to the Imperiums medicine, and the apothecarium.

>>49619127
Both of those always reminded me of ankhs.

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>>49619331
Yes Americans got it wrong because some chuckle fuck at a meeting insisted they use the Caudceus instead of the appropriate symbol cause it looked cooler.

>>49619302
>Symbol of trade
In which era do you mean?
As far as I know, it was originally a symbol of heralds, not traders or healers, as it is the staff of Hermes.

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>>49619331
He's right actually.
At one point, someone mixed up that symbol with pic related, the Rod of Asclepius (which is another serpent staff from a different Greek god).

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>>49619345
>cause it looked cooler

And we all know 40k is not governed by rule of cool in any way.

Also:
>implying looking cool is wrong

>>49619390
>Hermes, Herald of the Gods muscling in on the territory of Thanatos, Herald of Death
What a prick.

>>49619345
the meanings of symbols change over time, anon
just take swastika for instance

Why don't Apothecaries carry Caudecus Medicae power mauls as a badge of office? Like Chaplains carry the Crozius Arcanum.

I need to start rethinking my legion apothecaries...

>>49619414
I don't know if you can say it "changed its meaning" when people still use it for its original meaning, and it's just people out west who tattoo it on their head to proclaim their allegiance to a man who'd never have wanted anything to do with such a disorderly bunch, that disagree.

Also, I've never heard of anyone outside of America mixing up the rod and the staff, so again, not sure if it "changed it's meaning".
More like "some people decided it's so, and they won't budge because freedom fuck yeah".

>>49619414
The swastika is a specific type of the wheel of life though

>>49619421
Because they already have the Narthecium and the stark white, also they're not meant to be in CC, and geneseed takes awhile to extract

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>>49619127
The difference lies in whether you just make use of another person's idea and then changing it a little for the sake of not being straight up plagiarism or boiling down the thing to it's basic concept and then building it back up with your own ideas.

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>>49619494
>Narthecium

Which is just a tool they use, not really a badge of office. Apothecaries, after all, belong to a group of their own, like Chaplains and Librarians.

>stark white

And librarians have blue and chaplains have black.

>they're not meant to be in CC

Neither should librarians, chaplains or chapter masters. But this is 40k and the most important people go into battle in the first wave and without helmets.

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>>49619127
mmm i guess that i really

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>>49619539
reallllllly

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>>49619543
REAAAAAAAAAAAAAALY

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>>49619549
do not know how to answer op

>>49619386
>hurrdurr i play smite.

>>49619576
>Implying
Actually, it's just that Greek Mythology is part of what we're thought in school over here.

>>49619594
Of course modern school "over here" are teaching GREEK MYTHOLOGY. :^)

>>49619615
I learned it in 10th grade English and then some more in Latin class. The latter was more just a lesson the teacher did because he felt like it and we weren't tested though.

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>>49619539
>>49619543
>>49619549
>>49619559
I completely forgot about that shit. I'm assuming they got sued ?

>>49619615
I'm not that guy and I learned about greek mythology (and others) when we studied the ancient world.

>>49619549
>that fucking necron aswell

>>49619139
fpbp

>>49619615
Guy you replied to here.
1) Fuck me running how did I misspell "taught" as "thought"?
2) Like the others said, Greek Mythology came up in Literature and History classes, since Greek City States, Homer and the world's first Amphitheatres (along with the stories told in them) are kind of a big deal.

>>49619632
What's the original comic called

>>49619408
I hear there's a lot of gold in the underworld.

>>49619457
That means that it has changed meaning in America. It's not at all uncommon for words or symbols to change meaning in some places while retaining a previous meaning in other places. That's for example why people in the West sees the swastika as a symbol for Nazism while in Asia its still used as a holy symbol. It's also why word cognates can have significantly different meanings in closely related languages.

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>>49619632
I doubt it. GW only has so much money to put towards legal fees and they wasted most of it pursuing companies like Chapterhouse or commission artists on DeviantArt.

>>49619408
Indeed Hermes act as psychopompos, a guide for souls in the underworld according to some myths

>>49619632
>implying GW didn't ask them to put it in

It is too tasteless to be legit

>>49619913
>It is too tasteless to be legit
One of Marvel's artists is infamous for tracing porn for his comics.

Their standards are maybe not as pristine as you might believe,

>>49619913
Who would know about this comic if not 100500 threads with these pics and "GW sue when"?

>>49620190
What was the original comic, I'm guessing some sort of venom thing

>>49619576

It's a fairly well known switching of symbols. The Caduceus is a symbol of merchants, which is something folk like to point out as being a bit dubious when it's used by medical professionals.

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>>49619543
>didn't even remove the logo

>>49619457
You don't know shit about symbolism, do you?

>>49619559
Why doesn't Venom have the spider symbol anymore?

Why does he look like Haunt?

>>49619127
>being inspired by something
using elements of something then making it your own by mixing it with other ideas
>ripping something off
the only reason you changed the name is because you didn't want to be sued
>op pic
super simple symbols that don't really matter

>>49620273
Venom: Space Knight.

>>49619632
Nope. Nothing ever came of it.

>>49619559
>>49619539
I find it funny that there's an armored core in there too.

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>>49619331
And that's where the fuckup began.

>>49619361
Hermes was the protector of roads and therefore the patron god of merchants.

>>49619302
>>49619276
>>49619309
>>49619386


The EM "Star of Life" symbol directly references the rod in shape, then repeats the rod explicitly in some versions, but remains a blue asterisk in others.

It's no stranger than horse-heads becoming dragon-heads on torqs, fasteners and other fetish items of the later European Bronze Age. Even without the explicit repetition of the rod, the single pillar crossed twice is reminiscent of the classical rod.

>>49619331
>>49619302
>>49621165
That's perfectly appropriate for a setting where 90% of everything is forgotten and the 10% that's left is reduced to a cargo cult.

>>49620507
Because Bendis is a hack who feels the need to ruin everything good so he can masturbate over "leaving his mark" on the characters.

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>>49619632
>Sue the Mouse
Heh.

Also
>Beastmen/Broo
>Chaos Greater Daemons=DnD
>Pic related

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>>49619127

>>49621839
looks like ummm

a bug lol!

>>49619615
It's like you didn't have a classical education. Stay pleb.

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>>49621839
>>49619127
And the chart of the other Tau Septs. I mean more Bionicle stuff.

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Meaning of symbols can change over time and it's perfectly acceptable to use the Caduceus medically nowadays.

>>49621870
S is lookin' pretty good for a Sept actually.

>>49621870
The way that 1-3 and 7-9 is basically the same with a negligibly thicker center pisses me off.
I guess I was a Christian Monk during the Middle Ages in one of my previous lives.
Seriously, would it have killed them to just, I don't know, rotate it 90 degrees or something?

>>49622066
It's more obviously a double circle in the higher rez versions.

>>49622113
Ah, I guess that makes more sense then.

>>49621958
Only if you're an uneducated heathen. Then again, if you use the symbol as a christian, you're blatantly worshipping a pagan idol.

>>49622066
What pisses me off is that 4 and 5 suggest that it's supposed to be a base-12 number system.

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>>49622204
That's perfectly appropriate to the setting.

>>49622467
I know.
It's still a painfully simple 1-to-1 substitution where the symbols imply the existence of at least ~16 more letters.

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>>49620507
>>49621705
It's bonded to a random space pirate bad guy named Mercurio. It betrays him and goes back to Flash.

Bendis is awful, but the comic itself is actually pretty good. Starts out alright and really gets good after the first 6 issue arc.
The Agent Venom series is still leagues better though. In looks and writing.

>>49622195
>Then again, if you use the symbol as a christian, you're blatantly worshipping a pagan idol.
Oh, please. That's like saying we're not allowed to read Greek Myth anymore. What are you, a Calvinist?

>>49622195
If it makes you feel better, you can think of it as a symbol of the snake on a staff used by Moses to cure the people of snake bites in the book of Numbers.

>>49619615
Canadian here, learned about Greek mythology in school.

Lemme guess, American?

>>49619632
Kinda. Legal letters got tossed around and it was settled out of court if I recall.