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>first for no one plays fortifications

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>>49613002

Second for please update the vanilla Terminator plastics

>>49613051
Anon, you should know that that's a Lord of War.

Firing ordnance requires my tank to fire its hull guns at BS1.
Am I allowed to fire my hull weapons at full BS first and then fire my ordnance?

>>49613157
No.

>>49613157
What do the rules say, specifically?

>>49613075
How about a Chaos Terminator kit that has at least one of every weapon option?

>>49613097
You're the second anon to say that but the .pdf clearly says
"A primus redoubt is a fortifications choice"

>>49613075
The Termie kit look fine to me.

Now look at those hideous Howling Banshee and Phoenix Lords resin crap.

In what situation would a Taurox be good?

AV11 makes me shy away from using it as a superior Veteran gunboat and while a CCS would benefit from the amount of fire points it has, they can't issue orders.

>>49613157
No, if you fire your other guns at full BS then you cannot fire your ordinance.

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Rate my color scheme. Like I said they'll have the lightning motifs of the white scars only in white instead of red. Models will be horus heresy sons of horus models from some of the squads themselves.

>>49613378
The other version, the one that's fast, could have some uses.

>>49613375
It's fucking sickening. I just want some thicc plastic banshees to decorate my desk, not this resin shit full of bubbles.

>>49613375

We desperately need new Warp Spiders, although the other aspects are resin at least they're nice sculpts.

Warp Spiders and Swooping Hawks are fucking hideous.

>>49613400
9/10, looks good anon. Where will you put the white lightning bolt though? The other shoulder pad is white. Will it just be a black outline?

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Had a game today, my deathwatch vs. genestealer cult. Game felt super fluffy, and was great. GS cult seems like a fun codex to play against.

>tfw 2 frag cannons take out an entire first curse formation by themselves

>>49613400
If you want my honest opinion, I like the blue but I just think there's too much going on. I would get rid of the white hands and feet.

>>49613002
I'm working on cleaning up the Chaos tactics. I updated the "Why Play Chaos Space Marines" and "Difficulties of playing Chaos Space Marines" sections, and cleaned up the Helbrute unit entry.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Chaos_Space_Marines(7E)

>>49613400

Oh meant that the white lightning bolts on say the leg or across the face. The actual symbol itself will be crossed axes in black.

Can't figure out what chapter tactics I wanna run though. Probably the one that lets me take as many jump troops as possible.

>>49613492
in reply to >>49613462

>>49613488
Was thinking that a little too. I'll change it.

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ARMIES THAT LOOK FUCKING COOL:
>gencults
>dark eldar
>admech
>daemons
>harlequins

ARMIES THAT LOOK PRETTY COOL
>CSM
>scions
>craftworld eldar
>nids
>orks
>kroots (yeah I'm counting them separately cause that's how they were originally designed)

ARMIES THAT LOOK LIKE SHIT:
>marines
>astramil
>sisters
>necrons
>tau

this is the objective truth btw

>>49613408
Hmm. But it's also restricted to Scions only and I'm going full mechVet. Is the normal one just that bad over the Chimera? I'm having real trouble justifying its use when all I want out of it is the extra fire points.

I also hate the Taurox model but always liked its ML variant for some reason

On a related note, is the Chimera Armored Transport from IA1 still legal in 7th? I ask both for the same of its cheaper cost and old fire point rules, but also for the tasty autocannon option.

>>49613378
I can't think of one, I can't see why anyone would want to use it other than just being a cheap transport.

>>49613408
Taurox Prime is pretty neat being BS4, fast and having a second weapon. Being exclusive to Scions is very limiting.

I kinda want a Chimera Prime as a DT for CCS/PCS/Veterans, that'd be great.

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>>49613534

U WOT M8

>>49608731
reposting

>>49613400
I'm reminded of trebor soft mints.

>>49613548
In that case I would just stick to the Chimera, it's probably one of the best transports in the game.

As you say, it kind of looks like and armoured car that a commander would use but since it's not a command vehicle it's pretty useless.

Depends, there are two editions of IA1 now. The second edition is the only valid one and if it's rules are different to the codex I would always give the latest published material primacy.

>>49613565
you only got like two pretty models and they're RESIN

>>49613534
>No Grey Knights

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>>49613576

> Chapter Master.

>>49613534
I just can't get over that dick-tail.

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>>49613534

>Tau
>Best looking tanks in the game
>Look like shit

>>49613548
I've seen people use the Autocannon turret but use the 6E codex for rules like fire points, etc.

>>49613635
nobody gives a shit about tanks
and eldar tanks still look better

>>49613490
Why does that page shill so hard? Why not be honest about the faction? If someone wants to read lies and half-truths about the faction's strengths, they can easily go to GW's website or try any of the other, less critical sites.

Good on you for updating the least helpful part of the document, though.

>>49613684
1d4chan has always been garbage. Only the most autistic members of /tg/ update it, and /tg/ has always been home to stereotypical TVTropes-Reddit epic win exdee suchanerd shitheads.

>>49613728
I'd rather an autistic, meme-filled hellhole than a page that reads like it was written by a red-shirt and is in complete denial about CSM being the retarded, inbred cousin of the astartes codexes.

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>>49613662

triggered

>>49613662

>Mismatched weapons on the Falcon turret
>Weird ass blade things on the Wave Serpent
>Prism and Night Spinner are just plain ugly

The only nice looking Eldar (of any type) vehicles are their fliers, Venoms, and Hornets.

>>49613751
Agreed. Who knows? Maybe GW might look over it and go "you know what, the inbred autistic nerds may have a point. Hey Robin Cruddace, you made an autistic person sadface!"

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>>49613534
Imo, the vast majority of GW's 40k stuff looks cool as fuck. I think that's why they get away with charging an arm and a leg for everything. There's really only a small percentage of the kits that look bad, like that Ork Buggy, or some old characters, like the Phoenix Lords.

>>49613763
confirmed for shit taste
tau tanks look like star wars episode 1 toys and were EXPLICITLY designed that way.

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>>49613548
I guess it's still workable but since IA1 2nd Ed still lists Structure Points I'd say it's out of date and therefore invalid.

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>>49613776

>2016
>still haven't updated the Ork Warbuggy

>>49613622
marines
look like shit

>>49613400

Mixed parts dont look good.

Check WintersSEO on YouTube. Very similar color schee

>>49613776

>Games Workshop makes the best toy soldiers in the world

>How to Make Chaos Space Marines a Viable Codex in Three Easy Steps
1) Give them Drop Pods
2) Veterans of the Long War grants Hatred and Stubborn
3) Cut the cost of all the Marks in half (rounding up) and make additional CCW free

with GSC am I right in thinking if that my infiltrators roll a 5 on the cult ambush table I shoot during deployment?

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>>49613826
>1) Give them Drop Pods

>>49613776
even then the ugly ones are usually just really old sculpts, that were ace 10 or 20 years ago when they were new.

>>49613826

1) Give them chapter tactics on top of marks

2) Make Chosen Sternguard

How to make orks good
Kill games workshop

>>49613853
>>49613826
its not so much a matter of giving them pods. Just put dreadclaws in the codex instead of being FW units.

>>49613784

>needs citation

How to make your army good
1) Don't suck.

>>49613853
They have them in the fluff, and their inclusion is an easy change that is immensely helpful for letting CSM get close. The Dreadclaw is just too expensive and temperamental; it would be viable if the cargo was much more cost-effective and it didn't eat the occupants.

>>49613900

>t. Eldar player

>>49613826

They already have drop pods u fag

>>49613889
>100 points
>only ten-man occupancy
>no IGS
>1/6 chance to eat an occupant
>can't shoot turn one
It's mostly the first point, but Dreadclaws are ass.

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>>49613913

Sucker detected

Its not my problem if ur bad

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>>49613930

>4 badly painted riptides

>>49613826
I would say:
1) Give Chaos "Pariah weapons" out of Horus Heresy 6, alongside "Pariah Plasma:"
Pariah Plasma weapons fire an extra shot beyond their normal profile (so a Pariah Plasma Rifle fires 2 shots at 24", 3 at 12"), but each roll of 1 causes two "Gets Hot" results (meaning you would have to make two armor saves when you roll a 1). Considering you lack good Preferred Enemy bubbles, this makes them a high-risk yet deadlier weapon.
2) Make the assorted "Daemonforge" units about 25 points cheaper each, and replace their Daemonic Possession with Power of the Machine Spirit. Optionally, move them both to the Elites slot so you can use it for stuff besides Termicide.
3) Make Warpsmiths a *lot* cheaper, and optionally give them Daemon, Deep Strike, and Split Fire. Preferably, roll up their assorted "Formation Bonuses" into a list of assorted upgrades they can buy.
4) Remove "Random" from the Possessed; make them able to "control" their list of powers, similar to how Oblits/Mutilators choose theirs but while not being able to use the same consecutive power. Oh, and the powers shouldn't all be variations of "we hit harder in assault" So stuff like Possessed being able to swap places with a nearby enemy unit, have Blessings cast on them on a 2+, etc. Stuff to give them "tactical utility."
5) Repurpose the assorted Cult Marine units.
6) Fix the Chaos-specific Psyker lores. At least remove the weird restrictions around using them ("Can only roll up to half your powers on the chart, but must roll at least once").
7) Allow Chaos Chosen to take 2 Heavy Weapons rather than only 1, so you can use them as a pseudo-Havoc squad similar to how Sternguard occasionally get fielded. Alternately, allow Chosen to take God-specific Daemonic mounts. Can you say Chosen on Juggernauts?
8) Chaos lacks a good "land speeder/attack bike" equivalent. Part of me likes the idea of being able to give the Warpsmith a "Chariot" (some sort of Heretek version of the Admech Abeyant).

>>49614019
that's a good list.

one other thing I'd like too see is cult terminators.

>>49614108
Those would be good admittedly. The list was very much focusing on a "competitive balance" thing though; I figure that Pariah Plasma would be almost as good as mass grav is with a few exceptions (better versus light vehicles/daemons/etc, weaker vs wraithknights or most other stuff due to "less" shots and killing yourself), but it would also let you do stuff like run your Raptors like pseudo-Scourges, or make a convincing case for Ectoplasma Forgefiends (comboed with the point break, tossing down 4 plasma blasts for 150 points would be good. Like, 3rd ed Dark Eldar Ravager good).

Oh, and arguably some sort of "Locator Beacon" equivalent that would be cool. Personally, I like the idea of the Dimensional Key being able to let your Lord kill off models in his own squad to enable units to reroll DS Scatter (so you could have him hiding in a unit of Cultists, sacrificing them to ensure your Terminators are on-target).

Taros 2nd edition has the most up to date rules for Elysians, right?

So I was assembling some finecast Mutilators today and there are a bunch of little holes in the models, that the smaller spikes attached to the sprues are supposed to be plugged into. Except they didn't fit. And there weren't even enough spiky bits for all the holes.

Let me get this straight GW, you design a mediocre slow ass melee unit, give it really derpy faces and poses, mold it with failcast, and you won't even bother to include enough bits to assemble the thing?

>>49613468
How in the actual fuck did 4 small blasts take out 21 models with 5+ invulnerable saves and stealth? Sounds like your opponent was just shit.

>>49613851
Yes.

>>49614403
>Small Blasts
Aren't they flame templates?

>>49614019
That was intended to be a super short, quick, easy way to make CSM a lot more fun and viable on the field.

On a more detailed note, my fandex is focusing on giving options for each god, giving some way to represent the other "legions" (currently using a series of Icons that grant various rules/abilities and are restricted based on alignment or lack thereof), and trying to make sure everything is cost-effective. I'd rather have expensive and effective CSM than just making everything cheap enough to reflect their current lack of effectiveness.

In order to make room for the added flexibility, I'm cutting a lot of superfluous unit entries. All the non-Prince HQ's are rolled into a generic trio of "Champion of Chaos" statlines which can then purchase a specialization similar to the 30k centurions. The cult marines are being removed and having their stuff rolled into the Marks of into Special Issue Wargear, which is being repurposed into the receptacle for Mark specific wargear like Khornate Chain Weapons, Plagued Munitions, Sonic Weaponry, and Inferno Bolts.

>>49614441
No, its 24" S6 AP - Assault 2 Blast, Rending

Or two high powered single shots but obviously that's not what he was firing.

>>49614257
you could make icons double as beacons maybe.

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>>49614471
>No, its 24" S6 AP - Assault 2 Blast, Rending

>>49614471
Are you sure he doesn't mean the deathwatch frag cannon?

>>49614471

They were indeed deathwatch frag cannons. It was glorious, he murdered a chaff unit but only got a 1 inch consolidate. 4 templates, 7 hits a piece, 28 hits, 28 wounds (aquila kill team, rerolled all 1s to wound). I had previously gotten Null Zone off on the unit so it was only a 6++

>>49613776

There is literally no excuse for this still existing.

>>49613075
What could you really add to the vanilla terminator kit? Scrolls, skulls, studs, and more terminator honors?

I say giving CSM free marks and buffing the marks would in itself make CSM massively more powerful.

>>49614564
they could update them and add in things like plasma cannons or whatever like the deathwing versions. plus they could have different poses in general.

>>49614564
quite a lot

The kit's over twelve years old now. And if you compare them side-by-side to the bangle/dangle terminators, you can see how much sculpt/casting quality has changed for the better since.

It also gives them the opportunity to make terminator command squads a thing again.

>>49614578
>>49614607
Seriously just bits order some legs from the Blood/Dark Angels kits and shave off the wings and bloodrops.

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Are there any good space marine emblem creators?

>>49614637
Both are covered in chapter-specific icons, and the blood angel terminators are monopose.

There's a definite market for new generic terminators, which I'd hope they'd fill the next time the marines get a book. Alongside things like techmarines and apothecaries.

>>49614502
Oh sweet fucking jesus what.

A 2-shot TEMPLATE weapon with those rules?

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I got banned from a GW store facebook page for posting this

>>49614720
it's been on blood angel 'noughts for years, bro

Good, but expensive. Especially since you're dealing with a bog-standard marine.

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>>49614694
Photoshop it yourself, then get some of that blank transfer paper and print your own.

is the new painting guide for GSC up anywhere yet?

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I didn't see stronghold assault in the mega does anyone know where I can find a copy.

>>49614787
delete this

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>>49614787

>>49614914
Why would you put a barrier in front of a barrier so that no one can walk to and stand behind that barrier?

>>49614914
I've asked for 3 generals now anon, and have had no response or luck finding it on my own
I think I'll just have to buy the damn thing

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>haven't gotten a game in months because killing the overtime at work
>no one responds on my LGS's forum
>they refuse to make a FB Group
>have the money to expand my army but don't want to if I can't get games

This shit sucks, I just want my plastic dudes to kill other plastic dudes. We have 20+ regulars but only three or four other people are using the forum it seems.
I can't make it on Saturdays which is the 40k day.

Anyone else have these feels?

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So with all the talk about Hiro closing a lot of boards to cut down traffic and save buttloads of money because at this rate 4chan would get shut down Eventually™ where would you go if /tg/ or 4chan did not exist anymore?

>>49615036

biggest beef i have with the book is the macro cannon and vortex missile launcher aren't barrage for some reason. Can't technically automatically fire the missiles because there's no way to draw line of sight from the weapon.

>>49615049
The George Washington Bridge

Guys please don't forget we have a discord
https://discord.gg/FpVfNKp

>>49615049
Either my Facebook group or the Alfa Legion website

>>49615183
>we have a discord
I have been there twice and two times some faggot was spouting off about eldar fluff and why he thinks they are the good guys while also sending quote upon quote from some wiki regardless if anyone else was talking.

Discord is shitty and you are shitty for suggesting it.

What do we know about the lifespan of Astartes?

Dante is around 1,500 years old, the oldest non-dreadnought, and that's stated as exeptional even among the Blood Angels.

Aren't the chaos special characters all over 10,000?

>>49615062
Have people legitimately argued with you that you can't Fire the missle?
That's kind of a dick move

>>49615286
Time isn't linear in the warp.

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Would it be possible to make a Diggaz army with the Imperial Militia and Cults codex? And where might I find that?

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>>49615030
The outer barriers are for the suicide squads.

>>49615030
multi layered defenses so you can fall back from the front line if needed and still have good defenses are a common thing in warfare.

>>49615183
Discord is the death of communities, fuck off.

>>49615427
the horus heresy thread.

Need advice on this 1850 grey knight list please

HQ:
Librarian lvl 3, daemon hammer - 140
Librarian lvl 3, stave - 135

Elites:
5x Paladins, Apothecary, Hammer, 2x Psycannons - 345

Troops:
5x Strike Squad - 110

Fast Attack:
10x Interceptor Squad, 2x incinerators - 260

Heavy Support:
Nemesis Dreadknight, heavy psycannon, heavy incinerator, teleporter, sword - 225
Nemesis Dreadknight, heavy psycannon, heavy incinerator, teleporter, sword - 225

Low: Oathsworn Detachment
Knight Warden, twin icarus autocannon - 410

1850/1850

Does this look okay? I considered Draigo replacing the interceptors simply for the gate of infinity shenanigans, but he's so damn expensive...

>>49615286
POTENTIALLY biologically immortal. It's quite often stated in the books that space marines literally don't know how long they can live because no space marine has ever died of old age.

Let me repeat that. No space marine, has ever died of OLD AGE. Only ever battle. They just keep fighting things until something kills them. The current oldest space marine is Dante, who is 1,100~ years old. Again, still hasn't died of old age.

So for those of you who disdain the idea of having multiple of the same snapfit, monopose model, how are you planning to convert your additional Genestealer Magi? I've figured out how to do my second one, but I'm planning to run a total of either 3 or 4, so I need some more ideas.

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Militarum tempestus

Lord Commisar-70
caraparce armor

10 Scions-145
2 flamers, power sword
10 Scions-155
2 metla guns, power sword
10 Scions-145
2 grenade launchers, power sword

Lord of War
Crassus Armored Transport-250

Oathsworn Detachment
Knight Acheron-415

Sentinel Recon Company-330
3 armored sentinels with lascannons, smoke launchers-165
3 armored sentinels with plasma cannons, smoke launchers-165

1430

Good stick all this in with a 500 points of space marines to make an army list I'll never use because I never get 2k point games.
Should those swords be mauls instead?

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>>49615628
>Lord Commissar
>Not a Command Squad.
For what purpose, anon?

>>49615446
>no neon on the plasma guns

:(

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>>49615649
They're off at the moment.

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>>49615628
>grenade launchers
don't

do not

melta guns, plasma guns, flamers, hotshot volley guys are all good

grenade launchers are shit

>no command squad with 4 special weapons
>buying power weapons for your squad leaders
>crassus

Are Blood Angels better now?

Why do people obsess over ObSec when BA are all about assaulting?

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>>49615643
>>49615714
I'm using Kasrkin models so these are just what I have. Power weapons are to fill up points but I guess they are pointless.
The crassus is there because it looks cool.

>>49615338

Nah, it's something I've noticed on my own accord thus don't take the fortification to avoid the situation.

You have to admit it's pretty lame that both weapons don't have barrage rules. I'm sure it's oversight on GWs part. Consider this before spending money on Stronghold Assault.

>>49615774
Count the nade launchers as HSVGs. Nobody knows what either model looks like anyways.

>>49615589

Tau and regular Humans are about the only things whose lifespan can be measured most of the time isn't it?

>>49615714
Are grenade launchers really terrible, commander?

Asking for a bald hard-working friend who doesn't have access to plasma guns, meltas, or hotshots, he can get his cl- ..hands on a flamer or webber though (he didn't say how and I didn't ask).

>>49615774
>I'm using Kasrkin models so these are just what I have.
proxy them as HSVGs, look around for kasrkin plasma guns

grenade launchers are baaad

anyways use the points you save from ditching the power weapons to grab a command squad, if only because MT orders are fucking good

>>49615049
i'd probably be fucking done
you fucks have got me through every bad thing thats happened to me in my adult life and losing you guys would be fucking shattering

>>49615809
Pretty much. Eldar age so slow they're effectively immortal, Dark Eldar are actually immortal due to creepy clone bodyjumping technology, Orks are biologically immortal and just keep growing bigga the longer they live (and fight), Tyranids don't really count since they're just recyclable organic weapons although I guess Genestealers could be considered separate and they're biologically immortal, etc.

>>49613954
Painting looks okay but the weathering is ass.

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I did it. I collected every spare bit we had and made two tacs and a librarian for an ally Red Hunter force. Now my guardsmen have a 12" 4+ Deny bubble against the burgle rot shenanigans I face. I was going to name the librarian but then I realized.....I'm not sure if I can? Correct me if I'm wrong but if the regular mind wipes they get remove combat experience would that also rob them of any chance at a unique identity? Seems super extra grimdark but I don't know RH lore enough to be sure. Opinions?

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>>49615774
>>49615628

If you have a taurox you could take those kasrkin and turn them into something REALLY mean.

>>49615049
Go back to Dakka, plus start posing in the Chaos B&C subforum.

I've already started sliding that way anyways.

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>>49613002
Ok faggot question but i'm curious. Would the Emperor of Man be a ENTJ or INTJ or INTP?

I want to say he's an ENTJ but i might be a little biased.

>>49615874
Eldar who use their psychic powers begin to crystalize over time

How to handle generic Daemon Weapons?

I was looking at them granting a D3 extra attacks an having a Maul (Sx2 AP2 Unwieldy, Concussive), axe (S: User Ap 2), and Sword (S:+1 AP:3), but that feels odd having the axe at less strength than a regular power axe.

How big exactly are Star Fort Fortress-Monasteries?

>>49615909
I saved you the trouble of checking the wiki; the fluff is that 'line brethren' - meaning rank-and-file troops, or what counts for that in the Space Marines - get the mindwipe. Officers and command staff would likely get a pass because experience fighting the enemy makes you better at fighting the enemy.

On top of that, repeatedly mindwiping a psyker is asking for bad things to happen.

What Mark of Armor is the current Tactical Marine box kitted out with?

Is it VIII? (Or IIX, I can't into Roman Numerals right now)

>>49616008
>IIX
American?

Rate my muhreen list

1850 IF Sternhammer Detachment

Core Demi Battle Company
Chaplain with jumppack and meltabombs - 110
Squad of ten assault marines with jumppacks and melta bomb on sergeant - 175
Three squads of 5 tac marines with a heavy bolter in a rhino - 115 x 3
Squad of ten devastators with four lascannons - 220

Auxilary Skyhammer Annhilation Force
Squad of ten devastators with four grav cannons in a droppod - 315
Squad of ten devastators with four multimeltas in a droppod - 215
Two squads of ten assault marines with jumppacks, two eviserators and power axe on sergeant - 235 x 2

>>49616008
Mostly VII, has some bits of MkVI and two MkVIII chests.

>>49615985
That is a very very good point I didnt consider. Must be lonely for him seeing all the same faces but none of them knowing him. Kinda would drive a guy crazygonuts

>>49613209
>Pleb wants claws on his terminators.

>>49616013
Yes, at least my gut was right with VIII, only nine is IX if I remember.
Do Europeans use Roman Numerals on the daily or something?

>>49616036
Thanks, and Beakies are VI?

>>49614787

> got banned for shitposting

And?

>>49615860
>Please don't talk about feelings while my dick is still in you.

>>49616101
>CSM fags hope that sold out shit means a new box
>every
>single
>time

Enjoy your Helturkey, heretic.
Have fun spending hours upon hours molding green stuff to make it look like your god of choice, which is probably Nurgle as CSM as he seems to be the only one worth wasting my time against.

>>49615815
I dunno about your friend's specific contex, but in the Guard they're fairly sub-par. They not great at anti-vehicle, and they're not great against infantry (they might get 4 x the hits of a lasgun... if you're lucky). Really the only think they have going for them is they're cheap.

I dunno what a webber does, but I'd take launchers alongside lasguns and flamers alongside shotguns

>>49616130
Jesus anon, show me on the doll where the Dark Gods touched you.

>>49616130
not any more

i hope it means they are sold out for good

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>>49616164
The Dark Gods never touched my beloved Legion
*points to Dark Angels army*

Grenade launchers would be good if they were two shots each profile
Also arent missile launchers shit in guard for the same reason (i mean every guard heavy weapon that isnt autocannons are shit but ykwim)

>>49616183
>Grenade launchers
I like bringing it in my Ravenwing Command Squad but that is to tone down the AP2 and probably because I can use Rad and Stasis Grenades.

>>49616183
yeah, the Astartes Grenade Launchers that scout bikes have are Rapid Fire and actually quite nice. I'd be cool with all Grenade Launchers having that statline in exchange for being 10 points

>>49616156
Webber is 16" S4 AP * Assault 1, blast

AP = targets Strength value

>>49616176
They're still available outside the US.

>>49615955
The Emperor would probably be a little bit of everything anon. Emps was always described as a multi-faceted being who always covered himself in many Glamours. People saw him as whatever they expected, ALWAYS an extremely handsome man of their own race, and wearing shining golden power armour. But when primarchs looked upon him, a great many of them could see through his glamours and just see a simple man who looks exactly like Conan the Barbarian, and wears simple white robes.

To many he was a fatherly figure, to some a lonely hermit. In the past he was a barbarian, a chivalrous knight in golden plate armour, a dragonslayer, and even many scientists. The emperor is all of us, and yet he still isn't. Don't tie him to just a simple personality grid, that simply won't apply well to him.

How do Genestealer cults look? Any good as a standalone army?

What's the best way to run IG in Kill Team?

>>49616298
Literally in the top tier. Probably the bottom of top tier, behind Tau, SM, Eldar, but still up there in solid territory.

>>49614914
Have you tried googling 'Stronghold Assault pdf'?

>>49616298
I played against them once with my Spess Murheens. They play almost exactly like Orks, and have all of the exact same weaknesses. Their shooting is shit, and their melee is sub-par. They're just a one-trick pony army that can get a few dudes into melee early on, but then suck at it when compared to actual melee specialists. Now I will say that they are GOD TIER when used as meta breakers, since they pretty much hard-counter most of the tau and eldar bullshit we've been seeing these days.

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best way to make a power armor inquisitor?

>>49616260
so, beats the pants off a grenade launcher for anti-infantry work.

>>49614787
Well you are promoting a different brand

>>49616339
>They're just a one-trick pony army that can get a few dudes into melee early on, but then suck at it when compared to actual melee specialists.
You played a bad player.

GSC is kind of like how people used to describe DE - their effectiveness is entirely decided by the skill of the player. In the wrong hands they're garbage barely better than Orks. In the right hands they will demolish almost anything outside of the top tournament lists.

>>49616349
I figured the usefulness of a GLauncher was shooting S6 into rear armor on vehicles.

>>49615049
/tg/ and /trash/ close: I go
anything else: won't even look twice

>>49615713
Never really liked the blue blowy bit plasma guns, maybe in the muzzle but not from the heat dissipation fins.

>>49616176

Why?

They're a nice unit.

>>49613002
Why did you ruin the image?

So is there one anon who uploads epubs to the MEGA or does that person just upload whatever info someone here posts?

After Seeing the Goliath Rockgrinder and the Deliverance Broodsureg (trukkboy squad amirite?)
I got thinking, can we loot a working Ork codex by stealing, models, units, formation and weapons, nailing them together and slapping green paint on them?

>>49616468
GW assassin plz go

>>49616468
We have 3 mega's so... yes to at least on of those.

>>49615774
>Zhao-Arkkad
Hey, that's the Forge World in the HH book 8! Cool.

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>>49615909

>>49615955
>>49616293
Actually by definition the Emperor is INTJ. A mastermind who sought to rebuild humanity in his own image. He planned the fuck out of everything he did also.

>>49615984

Pls respond ;;

>>49616488
I guess I won't post the GSC epub then.

>>49616481
I have no problem with someone running GSC as counts-as Orks as long as they don't use Purestrains, Patriarchs, or Broodmind powers. And if they're doing lots of Ambushing they better make sure they're modelling their guys as Kommandos.

And they should run lots of Aberrants because they're I2 melee units.

>>49616580
do it
GW are sleeping

>>49616580
>epub
Implying we want that shit.

Also jokes on you, I have a hardcopy. Best art in a GW book in ages, no reason not to buy this one.

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>>49615984
>Star Fort
No hard numbers are supplied ferom GW's side.

Heres a comparison, you can look up the ship sizes yourself and guestimate form there.

>>49616609
>we
speak for yourself pc/android fag.

>>49616580
You dont need a MEGA to post and i already have a lovely pdf because epubs are shit shit shit

>>49616598
I mean liberally chopping shit from a dozen books and gluing them together into a hot green mess.

>>49616609
>epub
>Implying we want that shit.

"We" do

>>49616609
>Best art in a GW book in ages, no reason not to buy this one.

GW shill pls go.

>>49616618
>>49615984
Someone did a comparison between all Sci-fi universe sizes, Ramiles class star forts were ~50 Km long

>>49616636
I hope you're not talking about the temp one in the MEGA. If you prefer a PDF of screenshotsn of the enhanced version over the clean epubs, you're an idiot.

>>49616636
>Doesn't realize the MEGA GSC temp pdf doesn't even have the war gear rules since it's screenshots of the enhanced ePub edition that uses hyperlinks.

>>49615786
HSVGs?

>>49616644
>I mean liberally chopping shit from a dozen books and gluing them together into a hot green mess.
You can do this by running Unbound, no one is stopping you.

I am building a battle company and bought betrayal at Calth.
One of the the 30k players said he would buy me a box of devastators for the dread and termis I don't need/want.
Should I make the trade or ask for 2 boxes of devs or maybe a razorback or two?

>>49616645
A shill would not admit that the art in all the recent books prior to this one was shit. Stop being a faggot.

>>49616748
Or any rules for that matter.

>>49616771
>Only shills would get upset being called a shill.

Hope for your sake GW drank some pineapple juice tonight.

Are Space Wolves a viable choice these days?

>>49616580
DO IT I'M SORRRYYYYYY

>>49616795
If you can stand being called a furfag, sure.

>>49616609
>Best art in a GW book in ages
Couple great ones, bunch of mediocre/bad ones. Deathwatch was the same way.

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>>49616795
Absolutely.

Wolves > Lions

>>49616789
>this guy actually thinks a tiny model gaming company in bongland pays people to shill on indonesian bedazzling imageboards

>>49616806
Well what SM army should I start, heaven forbid some 21 year old faggot talks some shit to me.

>>49616832
Nobody actually thinks people shill for GW here idiot. I thought summer was over?

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>>49616831
Whatever you say, man, but we both know.

Deathwing > Wolf Guard Termies.

>>49616837
Space Wolves :^)

>>49616764
The dread and terminators are worth at least twice as much as the devastators, tell him to get you two boxes, or sweeten the deal some other way.

>>49616795
Yes, and if you are looking to start an army you might as well pick up two of their start collecting boxes if you can get them below MSRP.

You will have your two troops (which will probably want drop pods or rhinos) with the 2x10 Grey Hunters and it will give you 6 Thunderwolf Cavalry which means you will have an extra thunderwolf to throw one of your two Wolf Lords on.

From there all you have to do is toss in some long fangs and maybe some wulfen to have a very decent army that can hold its own.

>>49616764
Two devs or two razorbacks is fair, though with BaC you got the dread, terminators, characters, and game for free.

>>49616760
One eye open and come the apocalypse do.

>>49616850
Interesting, what's a solid Deathwing build?

>>49616876
>>49616891

Thanks I will aim for a combination of the two then.

Two boxes of Devs would be great as that would let me load out 4/5 of each squad with identical special weapons I think.

Should that be one squad of missile launchers, one squad of grav cannons or what?

>>49616909
As many Deathwing Termies you can fit into your point limit, but try to fit two dreads and some 2-3 Ravenwing units in there too.

>>49616927
Heavy Bolters. I love them.

>>49616909
You can't play pure DW without getting tabled turn 1 with nothing on the field.

That said at lower points a DWSF of a LvL 2 Lib with the Foe Smiter in a Command Squad an a Drop Pod Ven dread or a second unit of shooty termies summon from two RW Attack Squads (one with 1-2 Multimelta attak Bikes and a Double Multimelta Landspeeder. The other with an MSU grav biker squad and typhoon speeder) has been great for more casual matchups.

I need some advice

I'm assembling a scout squad for my raven guard, and I don't know what weapons to give them.

I intend to play them as a complement to the assault squads, get some landspeeder storms to carry them around. But while that doesn't happen I'm not sure if I should give them bolters, shotguns or CCW+pistol.

I'm thinking CCW+pistol for now so I can play them in a kill team and have more attacks, but maybe bolters are a better choice for when they have their dedicated transports.

What say you?

>>49616952
>a DWSF of a LvL 2 Lib with the Foe Smiter in a Command Squad an a Drop Pod Ven dread or a second unit of shooty termies summon from two RW Attack Squads (one with 1-2 Multimelta attak Bikes and a Double Multimelta Landspeeder. The other with an MSU grav biker squad and typhoon speeder)

I would face the shit out of that army.

We have two DA players in my meta, one is pure RW cheese with 2+jink and Ap2 across the goddamn board and the other uses the Lions Blade.

They are so boring too play against becasue one wipes you off the table with AP2 spam and the other wins with MSU tac squads winning more objectives than I can ever hope to have.

Holy shit this guy reminds me so much of the Genestealer Magus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo

>>49616975
Pistols and CCW's if you plan on using them as a pure assault unit.
Bolters (or sniper rifles) if they're going to be entirely shooty.
Shotguns if you want them to be able to do both.

I'd be inclined to go for Shotguns, from the way you're describing your plan for them. They can soften up a target, so the Assault Marines take less Overwatch fire, then still charge in alongside them to help drown the enemy in attacks.

>>49615927
>what book is that?

>>49616991
>We have two DA players in my meta, one is pure RW cheese with 2+jink and Ap2 across the goddamn board and the other uses the Lions Blade.

Yeah I started with pure RW and can field 3k of RW without batting an eye[/spoilter but found them way too oppressive against some of the best guys that regularly show up at my shop with BA, CSM, DE and Orks.

My 1500pt DW/RW List has been infintely more fun for games against all of them and the only Sisters player I have ever met.

>>49614720

Oh, they're sweet. Also since Deathwatch can take shotguns along with their bolters, and since the shotguns have a template weapon, any unit that charges your guys is going to get obliterated.

>>49617003
Ohhhh that sounds good.

Shame I haven't shotgun bits for all the troopers + the sarge. And I wasted the one I had from a scout biker in a Iron Hand Straken conversion.

So all shotguns and sargeant with chainsword, sounds like it's gonna be cool.

If it ain't I'll cut the arms off and change the loadout.

Thanks, anon

>>49617021
Anon, you seem like a pretty good guy.

I haven't gotten a game in months with my Tyranids because I either bring both my Flyrants and get called a cheeselord or get mopped off the table with my "fun"list.

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>Tyranidfags : Tyranids can never fall to Chaos!
>tfw they do (picture related)

Why do we take Tyranidfags seriously anymore?

>>49617021
Are you beakiewing anon?
Have you finished painting them yet or are they all in that God awful LSU purple and gold

>>49617063
Cults are different. Come back when a hivefleet falls to chaos.

>>49617063
I am reading Ragnar's Claw right now (Part of the Space Wolves Story Line) and was just reading about Nids that had succumbed to a plague when the main characters were boarding a Space Hulk.

Starting the SW Novels was a bad idea because now I am torn between 'Super Friends' and a Battle Company when expanding my DA army.

>>49617063
>Implying half-human cultists with no synapse/SitW are real Tyranids
Nice bait, Carnac.

>>49617102
According to the novel AND the codex which I bought with my monies, the Hybrids and their Patriarch contain within them a fraction of the Hivemind. That's why when the Tyranid fleet arrives nearby, the Hybrids and genestealers start to evolve.

What we saw there is Chaos subverting how Tyranid DNA work and enslaving its cycle for its purposes.

>>49617092
In Storm of Iron/Ultramarine omnibus, The Iron Warriors corrupt a Hiveship and use it as transport for their titans.

>>49617008
Not a book. It's a piece of paper that comes with the Militarum Tempestus Start Collecting! Box.

Which is of course complete shill-tier bullshit, so I make a point of informing people of the formation whenever I can. If you've got the models, you should be able to use them.

>Idea for a Tzeentch Warband
Around M37 a company of marines was on their way to defend a world from the threat of the month, when some weird stuff happened with their warp travel. They get stuck in the warp a long time, but they lose track of the time, nobody seems to age much including the human crew. The marines and the humans start to hear things from the warp, a whisper revealing the secrets of the universe...

Fast forward to M41 when they finally arrive at their destination, land and prepare to defend the planet. Eventually the PDF works up the nerve to ask what they are doing there. Turns out the chapter they belonged to died out completely in M39.

So without much else to do they start asking around about their experiences in the warp. That goes about as well as you'd expect. Now they are on the run from Imperium forces while also trying to negotiate with inquisitors and other political contacts. When they show up on a world, it is hard to know who exactly they are fighting for. The Inquisition? The Imperium? Themselves? The daemons pulling the strings? They are a wildcard, and a dangerous one at that. Either way, it is all part of *someone's* plan.

Unsure whether CSM or Loyalist rules would be more appropriate. Tempted to use CSM becaues it is the rulebook I have, but Loyalist rules are both better and seem to fit the story more.

>>49617123
Cont'ed, Hiveships are synapse/Shadow of the Warp hotspots.

If they succumbed, then no Tyranid is safe from corruption.

>>49617135
No one cares, Carnac. You're a faggot.

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>>49617070
Yea I suppose I prefer "Beakiewing" to "Vikingsanon"

All the bikers besides the attack bikes are finished besides a quick wash.
Idk what LSU means but I am obviously no Golden Daemon Painter and even misplaced 6 Black Knights.
The only people that complain about my painting are here though, so I usually ignore it.
My LGS is plagued with slackers who have had the same unpainted Broadside/TWC/Khan/etc. since I started.
I don't usually break out my full RW lately though.
My last few games have been with DW/RW and soon I will have the transports for my tacticals so I can run a fluffy DA Conclave list someone posted a week or two ago.

>>49616927
If you also want to run sky hammee, 4 grav, 4 multi metla. Rocket launchers just don't do the job well enough and cost way to God damn much for anti air

>>49617151
You care. You replied because you got proven wrong. Now scurry away, adults are having a discussion.

Anyways, correct me if I am wrong, I heard that in the novel "Daemon World", there were Tyranid slaves forced to serve their Chaos masters on a daemon world. I haven't read the novel yet but I want to confirm this. Anyone read it?

If I were to run the sentinel Talon formation for funsies but still a bit competitive, what should I shove on the sentinels?

>>49616888
Thanks this sounds like a solid plan, I'm pretty new to SM so it should be an interesting time.

>>49617169
Look at him try to communicate like an actual person. Like he's not universally despised on this board. It's adorable.

>>49617162
>misplaced 6 Black Knights.

Because you need 24 Black Knights ever?

Do you actually not own any troops?

Literally how?

>>49617123
>the Hybrids and their Patriarch contain within them a fraction of the Hivemind
That's because the Hivemind literally is the combination of Tyranid minds, you idiot.

>The Iron Warriors corrupt a Hiveship and use it as transport for their titans.
Killing a Hiveship and using its dead corpse as a transport boat is not corrupting Tyranids with Chaos.

>>49617162
LSU is short for Louisiana State University, their school colors are the same as your DAngles, I thought you did that on purpose, woops

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I had some paint pots come in, are they supposed to be like this?

>>49617233
Depends, is that a drybrush paint?

Yeah it's the praxeti white

>>49617233
no, they send you skub by mistake

>>49617135
>Cont'ed, Hiveships are synapse/Shadow of the Warp hotspots
only some
most are near mindless drones akin to enormous gaunts or somesuch.

nonone has doubted that chaos physically corrupt tyranids like it could a dog or a tree. But you'll never have tyraninds worshiping the chaos gods. those intelligent enough to be capable are synapse craatures and permantly linked too the hivemind.

>>49617208
>That's because the Hivemind literally is the combination of Tyranid minds, you idiot.

So what? The Genestealer cult represents a portion of the hivemind. In this case it was corrupted and put to the service of Chaos. Thus spawned corrupted hybrids and genestealers. You are not refuting anything.

>Killing a Hiveship and using its dead corpse as a transport boat is not corrupting Tyranids with Chaos.

Killing it? Who says anything about killing it? They tainted the Ship and enslaved it. Hiveships are massive deposits of Hivemind power and it was corrupted anyways and put to service like anything else.

Tyranids are confirmed prey to Chaos. Less desirable prey but still prey.

>>49617186
It is a solid plan, trust me.

No one will be able to fuck with your TWC.

I use the Start Collecting formation in my Super Friends list, it works that good.

Any SW within 12" of the Wolf Lord from that formation can Run instead of Shoot but still Charge which is just 2fast4u.

Give all the TWC Stormshields and either Powerfists or Thunderhammers with a couple MAYBE having a claw and they will absolutely ruin any ones day.

You may lose the T1 Charge when switching to a SW CAD but they are very durable, especially if you put a Lib on bike that gives them invisibility or that cheesy Librarius power that lets you reroll saves.

The Grey Hunters excel in drop pods because the Space Wolves realized that 2 Spec Weps are better than 1 Spec Wep and 1 Heavy Wep.

Putting them in a drop pod with a combi-seargent can be huge, usually seen with Melta so they can penetrate enemy lines and take out a piece of armor and then go and hold an objective.

>>49617261
>only some

The big ones. The ones that Iron Warrior took was big enough to carry titans.

>But you'll never have tyraninds worshiping the chaos gods.

A Patriarch would. It's sentient enough to worship Chaos.

>>49615049
>believing Hiro's lies
He's trying to trim the fat so he can keep paying for his ego-wank 2ch mirror website.

/tg/ barely registers as traffic on 4chan, Hiro would have to shut down a dozen niche boards to compensate for the bandwidth usage of boards like /gif/ and /wsg/

>>49617174
mostly autocannons and multi lasers. they're decent general purpose and cheap.
You'll want a few lascannons too deal with the occasional landraider or monolith. some plasma cannons probably aren't a bad idea either.

>>49617224
That's funny because I am from Chicago and Purple/Yellow are the Vikings colors in the NFL which are one of our Rivals.

My friend even started painting my Necrons Blue and Orange before he bitched out.

Someone please trade a pile of razorbacks and some assault marines for 3000pts of Necron shit I dont use

>>49617262
>They tainted the Ship and enslaved it.
Iron Warriors don't even have the capability to do this, they don't worship the Chaos gods, they're not Daemons, they're just traitors that happen to be in the Eye of Terror.

A lone Hiveship with no Norn Queen and which has the synapse onboard killed is also no more a "massive deposit of Hivemind power" than a single Warrior. It's just one living creature with one brain at that point, despite being a really big one.

>>49617270
Damn this sounds hot, what is a super friends?

>>49617131
>writing stories about your plastic army men

>>49617306
>what is a super friends?

A cluster-fuck of an Astartes Orgy.

Take a Deathstar of SW with a Deathstar of Dark Angels' RW and add a White Scars biker Lib Conclave and just plow through normies and their shitty armies.

>>49617314
>not writing stories about your plastic army men

FTFY

Forge the narrative faggot.
Not all of us play every week or have a backlog of tons of models.

>>49617294
>Iron Warriors don't even have the capability to do this, they don't worship the Chaos gods, they're not Daemons,

The Iron Warriors worship the Chaos Gods and they have sorcerers and warpsmiths who are able to corrupt things or allow them to suffer possession, Tyranidfag.

And you know nothing about the hiveship and what it contained , we only know that it was a large hiveship that was infected by the taint of Chaos and then put to service of the Iron Warriors.

>>49617349
So we have no idea the extent of what level chaos can corrupt nids then?

>>49617323
And this is legal?

>>49617349
>And you know nothing about the hiveship and what it contained
We know that it wasn't corrupted without a fight because the Shadow BTFO daemons. The Iron Warriors would have had to go on board and slaughter the synapse until the shadow was diminished enough for them to take the ship. If it's carrying around Titans then they clearly hollowed it out and it's not full of Tyranids. Fucking idiot.

>people arguing with the boards supreme autist over black library rubbish like it matters to actual canon
Stop falling for the bait, faggots. Also Carnac how's it feel to know that Genestealer Cults got a better Codex than Chaos will ever get?

>>49617366
You can mix and match imperial armies pretty much as you please.

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>>49617366
Yes, however I think k with the FAQ your conclave doesn't gain any of the bonuses of the formations you stick with them.

That means they don't get the RWs penalty free turn one jink or the running and charge of the SWs start collecting

>>49617431

Good thing I can just walk out while you flounder about at I:2.

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>>49617513
Executing kek protocols.

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>>49617513
Nobs are I3 though

>>49617276
Their scout ships are 200 km.

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>>49617513
Waaaaaaagh!

>>49617280
Biggest suckers are the high-res porn and other photo boards, all the drawn porn boards combined barely use half the bandwidth of the single biggest real porn board.

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>assembling terrain pieces for LGS owner
>says he'll comp me some stuff
>have a Hospitaliar on the way

It's happening guys. I'm going to do my stupid Sororitas command squad where each model has a Flamer and a Combi-Plas.

Emperor save me.

>>49617431
>Nobs on 25mm bases.

>>49617704
It's what they came with

>>49614310
Yes although it's a bit out of date now.

>>49617715
So did marines at the time the box was released.

That aside 32 just looks better for nobs and keept the mobs standing better.

>>49617777
Nice, I'll have to look into changing that.

>>49617368
>Shadow BTFO daemons.

No, it doesn't, you moron. Only makes it hard for daemons to manifest. In several occasions, Daemons can overcome the Shadow of the Warp and slaughtered the Tyranids. Heck, two examples of this had daemons manifesting inside the Hive fleet's ships.

>If it's carrying around Titans then they clearly hollowed it

Which can be done after the ship was corrupted. Even after all that happened, the ship was still alive.

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>>49617383
>>people arguing with the boards supreme autist over black library rubbish like it matters to actual canon

>implying implications

Also the corrupted genestealer cult is from the codex.

>>49615953
Dakka is an appalling pit of negativity.

You know it's bad when you can get a more balanced discussion on 4Chan.

What kind of cheese could you do with an allied detachment of vanilla marines?

>>49617815
>The stolen planet was not the only legacy of Rakarth’s grand ambition. The rending of the veil had left a gaping wound in reality, and a large spar of the webway had been opened to the realm of terrors that mankind calls the Warp. Saim-Hann was reeling in the face of a large-scale daemonic invasion that was spilling through the rift, and the tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan, denied the power of its planetary feast, was being slowly torn apart by the hellspawned host that appeared within its bio-ships.

-Haemonculus Coven Codex

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>AGAINST THE SWARM

>Led by packs of snarling Warp Talons, the Harvest audaciously tore their way through the Immaterium and straight into the seething innards of a Tyranid hive ship.

>Spilling into the guts of the mega-beast, the Harvest set about slaughtering the writhing creature from the inside out. Though it sent showers of acid and swarms of weapon beasts against them, the hive ship could not purge its tormentors. Carving a path through the fleshy walls and pulsing viscera that confronted them, the Harvest slew the enormous beast in the name of Khorne, before digging in to resist the inevitable counter-attack. Sure enough, Tyranid bio-craft soon latched onto the hide of their shoal-mate, spewing swarm after swarm of horrors into its carcass. Yet the Harvest counter-charged time and again, the body count rising until Daemons tore through the veil to lend their blades to the battle. Finally, the last Tyranid beasts fell, bodies riddled with bolts and brutally sawn apart. Ichor stained and victorious, the last of the Harvest howled Khorne’s praises into the void.

-Daemonkin codex

The related text.

Tyranidfags BTFO again. Nothing can protect you from Chaos. No Shadow or Light. If Chaos wants to fuck you up, then it will fuck you up. There is nothing you can do except accept it and let it happen.

>>49617814
Theres a company that does plastic adapters you you're not keeen on rebasing.

>>49617849
So the Iron Warriors can now spawn an entire hive fleet of their own?

>>49617854
Hell yes much thanks!

>>49617913
No, they just have a corrupted Hive ship to use as their mobile titan storage facility.

>>49617827
This game is appallingly shitty. Balanced discussion doesn't mean lying about the state of the game.

>>49617938
What reasons do you claim it's shitty?

>>49617935
So nothing of interest happened then.

>>49617915
TTadapters do them in plastic that bonds better than the resin most of their counterparts use.

>>49615446

What color are their coats?

>>49616176
they probably get a new box design, nothing to worry about

>>49618113
Green

>>49617946
External balance is the worst it's ever been - in earlier editions, you could play a weak codex versus a powerful codex and still have a reasonably even game by steering away from the most OP units. Now, a lot of an army's power comes from army-wide special rules, meaning it's a lot harder to do that. It's difficult to create a 'casual' Eldar army because everything has Battle Focus and Bladestorm.

The sheer dominance of shooting is also a huge issue. Melee armies only work if they're able to blob up into giant deathstars, or come loaded with special rules that let them cheat their way into assault or make individual models so good you only need two to sweep a whole unit. There's no point in bringing regular close combat units like Hormagaunts, Wyches or Assault Marines now.

>>49616832
>Being a shill
>Trying misdirection this hard
>Bringing up GW being from England after nobody else bringing it away, further demonstrating that the poster is a shill

Give it up. If it's you, Roundtree, thanks for not being as shit. Please post GSC epub now.

>>49615041
Sure do. Most all of the regulars in my area do stuff on Saturdays when I work on weekends.

>>49618238
I got sick of waiting for the epub and just bought. I'm not posting it though.

Are there any indication for a Rough Rider bases? I'm converting a squad at the moment and realized that I don't know the bases size.

>>49618297
Old square biker base.

>>49616519
Doesnt actually answer my question or me your opinion.

>>49618297
use whatever fits the model. I don't think GW even gives a shit anymore what you base your stuff on.

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Sly marbo stat leak from the codex catachan :

Cost 70 points

WS 13
BS 13
S 11
T 11
W Marbo's abs and pecs are so oily, bullet, blades and nukes merely glides on him
I 11
A 30
LD 10
SV 2+/2++ rerollable

Weapons : All of them.
Marbo's fists are considered vortex weapon
Vortex attack cannot affect Marbo.
If by any means marbo is removed from play or "slain" , he can come back on the next turn, placing himself wherever he want, summoning 9001 orbital strike using the 10" apocalypse template.

Special rules :
Adamantium Will
Counter-attack
Deep Strike
Eternal Warrior
Fear
Fearless
Feel no pain (1+).. He does not know what pain is.
Eternal Warrior (yes a second time)
Fleet
Fleshbane
Furious Charge
Hammer Of Wrath
Hatred
Haywire
Hit & Run
Ignores Cover
Interceptor
It will not die
Monster Hunter
Moves Throught cover
Night Vision
Outflank
Precision shot
Preferred enemy (everything and everyone)
Rampage
Relentless
Rending
Shred
Shrouded
Skilled Rider
Skyfire
Smash
Sniper
Split fire
Stealth
Strikedown
Stubborn
Supersonic (Marbo can flat out whenever he want)
Tank Hunter

>>49618338
Le ebig mem ×ddd surdo surdo speem

>>49618310
>>49618331
Thank you for responding, my cassowaries riders will salute you once I glue their arms.

>>49617233
So that one is a Dry Paint. It will say Dry on the side. I can tell it is a Dry from the tan color around the name in the picture. Going to guess it's Praxeti White.

The point of the Citadel Dry paints is to do what is done in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0m5ol6P2w

>>49618338
You aren't as funny as you think you are.

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>>49614694
>How can i draw something

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For as long as I can remember the leman russ stayed the same.

pic related : 1993.
Is it safe to assume it will NEVER change ?

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>>49618468
Look closer - the kit HAS changed.

>>49613534
>astramil
>shit

Go fuck yourself anon, I am triggered.

>>49618481
the classic cupola is still better

>>49613534

I can tell from your shitty taste that you're probably a slob in real life with shitty hygiene.

If I've read my shit correctly, the absolute minimal IG detachment consists of a CCS and two PCS with two infantry squads each to fill the obligatory slots.
Is this true or are PCSes not obligatory in a platoon?

>>49618238
I was called a shill after I posted the Mont'la and Kauyon books epubs. I no longer post any because I am a shill now.

>>49618556
1 Troop choice "Infantry Platoon" need min 1 Platoon Command Squad and 2 Infantry Squads.

>>49618494
but the sponsons and hullmounted weapon look way better.
I am undecided on the tracks, the new is easier to assemble, but the old had sooo many nice bits leftover

>>49618563
Checks out. Sounds like something a shill would say.

>>49618556
Its not correct.
A PCS is required in a platoon.
A veteran squad can be taken as troop choice without needing a platoon.
an aliied detachment does not need 2 troop choices.

>>49618573
>>49618587
/tg/ being helpful as always.
Thanks guys.
>3 CCS and 4 shock troops are over 150$
>3$ per model
Jesus GW!

>>49618633
you do not really need 3CCS for the platoon commands.

Just use a few officer looking bits for the commander, and give the soldiers lasguns/grenade launchers/flamers
With BS3 your plasma/melta are better elsewhere.

>>49618556
A CCS and 2 vet squads is the cheapest; although realistically you'll whack on upgrades on both as a BS4 platform is not worth wasting on las.

>>49618633
>3$ per model
That's.. fairly cheap, though?

Shit, even back in the 90's you were paying $3-$5 per dude.

>>49618633
>>49618653
I have a PCS that simple consists of a heavy flamer from a CCS box and 3 flamers. Use them with my vendetta for snatching objectives (especially ones in ruins or other cover).

My advice would be to buy a box of troops for bits; you'll never know when you need to make a Master of Ordnance or some other advisory model.

>>49614471
bro what

>>49618667
it IS cheap.
Now gw is more on the line of $7 per model for elf.

>>49614809
minus the solid shots and impact rule

Where's the best place to get 40k PDF's right now? I still can't find the 7th ed deathwatch

>>49618633
You can always bring Veteran Squads for your troops choices instead.

>>49618633
1 commisar, 2 veteran squad.
21 model and you can take the baneblade you want

>>49618760
Lord commisars are amazingly more expensive than a CCS (I had to check my codex just to make sure!)

>>49618760
The commissar is 5points more expensive than a naked CCS.
the CSS need a platoon formation.

>>49618832
CCS doesn't need a platoon.

Anons, if you could wait a little longer I'll be paid tomorrow and plan to buy and share Genestealer Cults codex.

>>49613075

>This is what marine players consider a high priority update

>>49618886
Thank you Anon.