MTG EDH/COMMANDER GENERAL

My favourite tech is Hive Mind for Nekusar, 28 to everyone on the table is indeed wonderful.

So I was playing brago.dec with my girlfriend last night against her Giants.dec and I accidentally made her pass out on me. Is blue/white really that boring?

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>In Hanna

>>49591466
Depends on deck really, Brago is kinda like that deck that isn't interesting to play against

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ayli-while-he-watches/
How many lands should I be running? Which cards are utter garbage, other than the Commander?

>>49591466
The trick to Brago is to solitaire playtest a fuckload and learn to resolve triggers very quickly. If you don't, your opponents will wish for death.

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I just made a $200 order for most of the pieces I still needed for:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/finagle/
Quick, someone point out all the mistakes and omissions so I can spend another $200 trying to fix it.

>>49591663
You can spend 200 dollars on me sugar daddy :3

>>49591663
With your big hand size you could add Aeon Chronicler and Overbeing of Myth

>>49591663
My biggest mistake was spending $200 on a Muzzio stax deck, and then the week after deciding I'd prefer to make a Damia Storm deck and spent another $200. I'm lucky I pulled a Masterpiece Lotus Petal

>>49591764
It started life as a Leovold deck. I spent $150 on it before turning it into what it is now.

>>49591752
Aren't those a bit low impact?

>>49591802
I like your current list, seems fun to play against. My biggest regret is that it isn't easy to play against other anon's, especially since I sold out of MTGO. I haven't played long term plans before, does it work nicely or is the exile ten a big deal?

>>49591907
Thanks man. I think you're referring to diminishing returns though. Long term plans tutors for a card and puts it third from the top of my library. I've only been gold-fishing and theory crafting so far so I haven't been able to play test it for real yet. In theory, it's an excellent card. Works well with top, library, scroll rack, and brainstorm. Should help me get combo pieces or whatever utility I may need at the time.

>>49592001
Oh yeah sorry diminishing returns is the one. Dead tired been through airports all day. Might order a copy when I get home and give it a test, thanks. Hope your deck works out

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The long awaited pimp mizzet decklist picture is here. 100% of possible foil cards are foiled, although not everything is the best version, that's the next project.

Decklist here:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/niv-mizzet-the-firemind-16/

>>49592134
hypersonic dragon?

>>49592226
Don't see why I need that when I have Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation.

Mindless Automaton is my secret tech in my Angry Omnath deck. It's a subtle discard and draw engine that lets me pit h Ulamog to infinitely recure my deck. I've put over 100 lands onto the battlefield in one turn before because this dumb robot enables so much.

>>49592247
A little redundancy never hurt anybody. A little redundancy never hurt anybody.

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Should I put the funds from pic related towards a Kaladesh booster box or Avacyn for my Sisay deck?

>>49591261
The party hat is covering the name, what's the enchantment called?

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>>49592299
I saw you at /v/ fgt

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Post pictures of your decks, your five favorite lands, and all the tokens you use in em, if applicable. Then other Anons try and guess what cards make those tokens.

>>49591719
Nah man, Aurelia's good but Gisela is special. Pulled her from my only avacyn restored prize pack from the prerelease. I appreciate the shared taste of Boros tho.

>>49592317
Yeah no one responded to my shit there

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>>49592334
i should get tokens

Are there more cards like stunted growth and plow under? i kinda like the sounds of a a meme mono g controlish deck

>>49592505
Primal Command has the hidden mode of destroy target permanent.

>>49592505
Get those enchantments that make lands creature then overload a cyclonic rift.

>>49592518
*noncreatue though

>>49592334
Got a list? I was the anon that said he wanted to convert Brion Stoutarm into Gisela and Feldon form last thread.

>>49592544
Oh yeah, that's right.

>>49592505
Chain of acid when cast when tempers are high and all polotics have broken down desyroys all non-creatire permanents. People just leep copying it out of spite.

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>>49592134
>Planeswalker_with_more_money_then_deck_building_skill.jpg

>>49592567
Here you go mang.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/giselas-fng-pissed/

>>49592914
That's brutal, but personally I'm not a fan of cards with large variance

>>49592134
I like the full-art Winds of Change

>>49593132
Explain.

>>49593415
You have vary few ways to interact with enchantments or hate bears that come down early. Look at the cards posted, then look at how many cards they shut down in your deck.

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My previous experience with EDH are pretty much limited with playing with people's spare/extra decks. I'm looking in getting my own shitty meme with pic related. Landbase not added because that's my last step and also dependent on how heavy each colour will be. I feel like I even with this guy just went with "everyone looking vaguely synergestic" from what I have.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hazy-warriors/

>>49593561
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hazy-warriors/
Error Code: 404

>>49593493
To be fair he is in UR and has no way to deal with enchantments other than countering them or chaos warp.

He can bounce+wheel any of those, but you are right, he isn't even running chaos warp. Pongify is also pretty good spot removal.

Try to find room for one of those foil anon. Personally I would cut one of your counterspells, since they fulfill largely the same purpose.

>>49593592
Whoopsie, had it set to private.

>>49592334
(Not who you were responding to, but)
Aurelia and Gisela go into each other's decks quite easily.

I've been running an Aurelia deck since she was released, and she's one of my favorites.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wild-gruudstuff/?cat=&sort=cost

I need to cut non-lands for 2 more basics and 2 shit non-basics for Game Trail and Cinder Glade.
What should go?

>>49591261
Predatory Focus.
I never see anybody use it and any time I use it to win my opponents can't believe it exists. I don't understand why it hasn't caught on.
Overwhelming Stampede sees plenty of use.
Overwhelming Stampede on legs sees plenty of use.
Kamahl sees plenty of use.
Or you could just skip the formalities of subtraction and beat them square in their faces.

Will the 4 colored commanders be people who we know of but never had a printing, do any of you think me may possibly get an Urza?

>>49593789
>common ETB lands that are not Halimar Depths or Bojuka Bog.
This shouldn't even be a question.

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>>49593789
Not sure why you have Geier Reach Sanitarium in there, maybe that?

Also more fetch lands is always a good idea with landfall.

>>49593561
If you're looking for another anthem, Shared Triumph naming "Sand" does the trick.

>>49593789
Oh also Rampaging Baloths is much more amazing than Zendikar's Roil, although I haven't played the later one.
It also synergies well with elemental bond if you put it in. Just like Omnath.

>>49593887
Innistrad - Flip commander.
Takir - Commander with 3 hybrid mana abilities.
Zendikar - Devoid Eldrazi
Kaladesh - Janky Energy Commander
Theros - Gemini God(s)

Five of the sub commanders will be 2 colored from Ravnica.

The other Five will be tri-colored and will be OC or characters who do not have a card yet.

>>49593906
>ETB lands with a repeatable land-bounce commander is bad

>>49593789
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wild-gruudstuff/?cat=&sort=cost
>turntimber basilisk
For what purpose? Irresistible prey and taunting elf do the same thing much cheaper.

>Ulrich
I am not impressed by him, have you had success using him?

>Akoum Hellkite
Bad. Really really bad. I get that you're going to double down on the landfall trigger, but it just wont be worth it.

>Conduit of Ruin
Again, or what purpose? To get you 2 cheaper on your creatures and tutor one of your eldrazi? Might as well throw in Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone. Even Fyndhorn Elder seems like a better option. You could always just tutor them up with any of the various cheap tutors.

>Worldbreaker
Newlamog is strictly better, and I think you can pick one up for like $13 bucks? Even Bane of Bala Ged might be a better option unless you're using it for MLD, and but still it's just not better than Deus of Calamity.

>Horn of Greed
Now that's spicy, holy shit. With a basic land ramp subtheme you could do some hilarious stuff.

I'd cut:
>Gruul Turf
>Looming Spires
>Worldbreaker
>Akoum Hellkite

Have you considered Elvish Piper, Ruric Thar, and Phyrexian Hydra?

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>>49593561

Don't forget this badboy.

>>49593622
I don't even get why someone would spend so much money on such a passive deck. For the most part, every games just going to be dump rocks>draws cards and slowly ping people to death> counter anything that affects the board state.He pretty much just spent a lot of money to play nekusar without black.

>>49594006
I'm okay with that. I was hoping for a 5 colour devoid eldrazi, but 4 colour could be just as good.

>>49594062
Neat, a free boardwipe against target player if anyone messes with my man.

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Looking for any kind of feedback for my Karlov deck I just finished building. Any cards that stick out like sore thumbs? Any auto-includes that I've missed?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karlov-triggerman/

>>49594029

>He thinks a 0/1 Plant or making a creature unable to block (when he is already giving shit trample) is worth it

>>49594078
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hazezon-ii-return-of-legends/

check out my list for inspiration (although it's a bit outdated). I cut the scapeshift nonsense and am currently going for more of a sac playstyle, much like Prossh. (Martyr's Bond and the like)

>>49594086
You're running some neat things my man, but outside of urborg/cryptghast and few your rocks, how do you plan on ramping hard enough to use some of your things? I find b/w is notoriously slow most of the time, and I was running Ayli with a full suite of tutors with top.

>>49592134

>pimped out deck
>has disgusting alters

How about no

>>49594134
>how do you plan on ramping hard enough to use some of your things?
I'm honestly not sure. I think what I hope to do is stall the early-game with removal and Karlov. Playing in a fairly casual meta probably helps. I'd love something like Land Tax for the deck, but it's currently a bit out of my price range. Probably got some tweeking to do after the first few games in either case.
Anything else I should think of?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jjjjjjjjjjjj-2/

Currently building this and still need to cut a couple of cards, but feel like there may be some cards im missing / have taken out but shouldn't have done.
Also anything that is terrible and shouldn't be there still?

>>49592533

That doesn't bounce the lands, just because they are creatures they are still lands (that's why the card says "they are still lands") and cyc rift specifically says "nonland"

>>49594006
Will the Tarkir commander be Taigam?

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I wanna make an American deck but I don't like any of the commanders in it. I want a RWU blinker, fuck.

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>>49594051
>>49594088
>Turntimber Basilisk
It's for potentially killing 2 of my opponents best threats. The deathtouch is the important thing there.
>Ulrich
Currently just testing to see if he works within the deck.
>Worldbreaker
Disagree with you there, my meta has few exile-board wipes, so getting him back again and again is a huge plus, the reach is also very good against the weak fliers here.
>Akoum, Smoldering Spires, Geier Reach
Noted and cut

With only 28 creatures, Ruric is a bit too dangerous for me.

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So /edh/, do think WotC will print more usable vehicles/pilots/dwarfs and energy stuff in the next set/future.

Or will they drop both them for something else?

>>49594051
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gitrog-mill-landfall/

Any great suggestions for me? I know it still needs Life from the Loan. Also Sylvan Library is gonna go out for Sylvan Scrying, cause Rashmi is in need for the former.

Would horn of greed be worth in it? Or not really neccessary?

>>49594247
After they learned their lesson with how popular clues were, I don't think they'll drop them completely.

>>49594262
Wasn't everything for Kaladesh set in stone by the time Return to Innistrad arrived?

>>49594247
I hope so, playing energy was lots of fun during sealed. I'm thinking about extending it to a standard/casual deck.

>>49594280
Source?

>>49594336

I don't have source but in pretty sure they said they design and develop the cards 2 years in advance to keep the schedule going on time

>>49594225
>my meta has few exile-board wipes, so getting him back again and again is a huge plus
But really anon, if you're hardcasting something that's 7 mana again and again, you might as well just wait and drop blightsteel to win the game. He's neat, don't get me wrong, and if you have one you might as well use it, I just think it has really niche utility because it only exiles one thing. You could run all sorts of MLD wipes for that much mana, particularly the ones with "destroy" in there if you get OG Ulamog out and things could be pretty spicy.

>It's for potentially killing 2 of my opponents best threats. The deathtouch is the important thing there.
I think you have better options for removal. Fall of the Hammer is 1R target creature deals damage equal to it's power to another target creature. You could even swap it out for Enlarge or Armed and Dangerous for basically the same effect. Bow of Nylea is also good for the force-block-deathtouch kind of shenanigans.

As for creatures, I like Urabrask in Gruul, but he requires protection or he will be removed quickly.

>>49594253
Sure, I'll take a look in a second here.

>>49594193
Honestly, unless you're running 10 pieces of ramp, you'll get frustrated with a durdle-first strategy. I know I did. If you want to speed things up, you could go re-animator as a backup plan? What I'm struggling with is it seems like you have a lot of good things, but other stuff like Hex just doesn't thrill me like it should.

Maybe you could slap in a few tutors, some things like Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual too to speed things up?

Also, have you considered Sunbond? And tree of perdition is exceptionally spicy with whip of erebos.

>>49594336
It's well known that Magic's creation cycle works around two years in advance, maybe more by now. Source:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/fight-future-2014-12-12

It's in the first paragraph of the "Reacting to Real-World Results" section.

Frankly it's a miracle that the market research on expeditions got in quickly enough to commission art for the Inventions.

>>49594247
I think it was the last State of Design that MaRo said they're less likely to change up mechanics between sets (in a single block) based on feedback from BFZ

I dunno if that's enough time to make it into KLD though

>>49593561
I think you need more haste enablers and more ways to double up Hazezon's etb. Strionic Resonator is a good add because you can copy the etb then copy the delated trigger at the next upkeep too. The revilliark/karmic guide combo with a free sac outlet like ashnods is infinite.

I'll post my list for you to look at if you're interested.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sandbox-3/

>>49594051
Horn of greed only draws off of land drops, not land etbs.

>>49594382
>Frankly it's a miracle that the market research on expeditions got in quickly enough to commission art for the Inventions.
I think they had the masterpieces planned for a while.

What I'm more surprised about is that Hangarback Walker got a masterpiece. That card was printed only a year before KLD. It lit Standard on fire for a few months, but did they know it would be a powerhouse when they first printed it in ORI?

>>49594253
>crystal vein
Oh, I like this. It's going straight into Mazirek.

>Dakmor Salvage
Glad to see this is in there.

>Crawling Sensation
I don't really like this card. It seems low-impact and in general I'm not a fan of the whole self-mill thing.

> Fork in the Road, Animist's Awakening, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Nissa's Renewal
I don't really like your ramp package. I do like harrow, but I'd run things like Primal Bounty, Far Wanderings, Peregrination (though that's more of a pet card in tricolour decks), Explosive Vegetation, Rampant Growth, sakura tribe elder, and similar things.

> Life/Death
I don't like this. It's too low impact, unless you're planning on swinging with your lands.

>Your creatures
Are you running these as specific support to Gitrog? They seem... lackluster in my opinion. I like the big stupid demons, but that might not be your style. Mazirek would also be amazing in this deck.

Maybe think of a few edicts to help control your opponent's board? I always like Deathreap ritual and Phyrexian altar in these decks. I do have a standard black draw package if you find yours is a little lackluster.

>>49594470
Maybe, I mean the gearhulks also got a masterpiece invention version. So it looks like they know what they're doing to some degree.

>>49594470

>did they know this card they printed that makes tokens when it dies and grows itself would be good

Yes

The days of accidentally making broken cards are gone, every good card was pushed to be good

>>49594470
WotC has a pretty good grip on what will be the best or impact standard, albeit 12 hour changes (Siege Rhino) or oversights.

Even though they claim they don't look at modern at all they clearly orchestrated Eldrazi winter with the MM2 reprints and the low cmc Eldrazi in Gatewatch.

>>49594501
Almost forgot, I don't really like Satyr Wayfinder, grisly salvage, and grapple with the past. Cards are going to wind up in your yard through the course of playing. Deadbridge chant is good, so is buried alive and entomb, but the lower impact ones always seem really good, until you realize that the slot would probably be better used for some actual ramp, or a tutor or something.

But that's more personal preference, things seem pretty solid. How does your deck do in your meta?

>>49594086
Maybe this works a little better in my deck because it's more focused on drain, but I've found Wound Reflection to be a killer.
Also, Archangel of Thune.

>>49594501
Self-milling basically enables some nice card draw with Gitrog. It also prepares for Splendid reclamation+big landfall triggers.

> Fork in the Road, Animist's Awakening, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Nissa's Renewal
Well, Fork in the Road has the perk to put one land into my graveyard, which is essentially a draw and preparation for Splendid Reclamation.
The two forests which go in hand from Nissa's Pilgrimage are either easy to play through Gitrog himself or can be useful for retrace effects.

>Life/Death
It's a good alternative to get the frog back. Haven't swung with it yet, but it is an option.

>Creatures
Most of them have their reason, but I might take out some of the mana generators, they don't fit too well most of the time.

Would a gitrog monster landfuck deck work? Completely based on effects that ramp him out, dismantle opponents mana base, and clobber them to death while they're trying to recover

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Should I make Brago, Queen Marchesa or Shu Yun?

>>49594678
No.

>>49594619
If you're using it to bring back the frog, why not Animate Dead, or Victimize so you can double down? Whip of Erebos and Nim Deathmantel are good options.

In terms of mana producers, I always divide my deck into sections. I have 8-10 draw cards, 8-10 things that will ramp or make mana, and fill in the rest around it. I prioritize things that put multiple basics onto the battlefield, then things that generate multiple mana on a fast curve, followed by things that fish basics onto the battlefield tapped, and rocks that fix your colours. Dorks are usually a last-resort option because they're easy to remove and can't be used the turn they hit the field.

As for your creatures, I've never really built gitrog so I'm not too sure how to spice things up for you, but Archfiend of Depravity is my favorite card, and I'm a big fan of Sidisi, Undead Viser, and Deathrite Shaman. Ob Nixilis, the Fallen is pretty spicy, and unlike the previous anon, I think Worldbreaker would fit well in your deck. Herald of Leshrac is also pretty fancy.

>>49594677
How are you exactly going to destroy your opponent's lands in BG?
Besides, you can do much better things with him than just beat face. He's obviously efficient in combo builds, but nothing special if you want to beat face, since Jarad or Mazirek are far better for that in colours.

>>49594367
Thanks man, added most of your suggestions to maybe board for now. Will probably add them if I get the oppurtunity.

Archfiend of Depravity sounds cool, but doesn't fit with Gitrog, since they both wanna stay on the battlefield, leaving nothing for others who want the same.

Grim Flayer is easily a 4/4 trampler which can draw a card or prepare your next mill/draw
Groundskeeper is very neat mid game
Ishkanah is one of two creatures with reach
Nyx Weaver not only mills for more draw, but can also get me a card, even at high cost
Terravore can be insane
Undergrowth Champion is similiar
Woodland Bellower looks for some of these, mainly Grim Flayer, Nyx Weaver and Reclamation Sage who's in as removal.

>>49594713
B-but I want to have fun

>>49594865
I think you misread Archfiend. He only makes your opponents sacrifice things, you can have as many creatures as you want. He basically reads: "At your opponent's end step, they can only have 2 creatures."

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I just dropped 450 dollaridoos on fast rocks Kozilek, how'd I do?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/he-comes/

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Anyone think Taigam will be one of the four colored commanders?

>>49595227
I'd put the new Kozilek at the helm. His abilities are far more relevant, and since you dump your hand so fast, he usually nets you more cards than the old one.

You could also try things like Soul of New Phyrexian, Bane of Bala Ged, Wurmcoil Engine, Colossus of Akrosa, and Steel Hellkite.

I also run Omen Machine in my Kozi just because I love top decking drops that make the board state go haywire.

Here's my Kozi build. I need to update it I a bit, but this is what it was a few months ago.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kozilek-the-great-game-ender/

>>49594063
Hah yeah, I made this deck 3-4 years before Nekusar came out. I realize it's just a bad nekusar without black.

And I know I made it to be non-competetive, if I wanted to make it stronger I'd take out most of the cards and just put in removal / cantrips and curiosity, ophidian eye etc. But that's not fun. I do have most of the cards mentioned (Chaos Warp, Pongify, etc) available, I just haven't had a need for them.

Just think of it as a really pimped out 75% EDH deck. Honestly, with all the draw and ramp in my deck, Capsize and Cyclonic Rift are usually enough to handle the cards mentioned above. I should probably put in Chaos Warp though, got a commander's arsenal one.


>>49594154
>alters
>NOT pimp
The fuck is wrong with you. Also, those cards don't exist in foil.

I have an Animar deck that has 97/100 foils (Missing foils are Animar, Cradle and Taiga), if you think this deck is bad, you'd lose your mind when looking at that one.

>>49595422
Hopefully not, he wasn't much of a character to begin with. He was also a devout Ojutai follower in the new Tarkir so I don't know what color they'd add

>>49591261
Im currently using that card on my Selvala group hug lifegain/tokens deck.

It prevents people attacking me while I just draw cards and pump out tokens.

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Mirror pool is much better than I thought it would be in my trostani deck. populating armada wurms each tun is fun

Have you guys put this card to good use in your decks?

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>>49591261
>>49595496
While we're on the topic, do you use Solitary Confinement? It's been a few bucks forever so presumably some people like it, but I've never seen one used personally

>>49594507

>The days of accidentally making broken cards are gone

Collected Company was literally one set earlier and it was basically an accident.

It was pushed sure, but it was still way better than they intend it.

Brago or Roon?

>>49595480
>>49594063
Actually, I could just link the decklist
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/animar-edh-51/

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Oh yes. Oh very much yes. sheldon bans it tomorrow

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>>49595518
It works really well in my Kruphix deck. People tend to forget that Kruphix's stored mana is <>, so I can do some pretty cool surprises by passing the turn with a couple of Islands and Mirrorpool untapped. "Oh you're going to steal my Vorinclex? Guess I'll just clone it at instant speed and sacrifice the original."

Anyone have any tips for my Marath?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marath-will-of-the-jungle/

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>>49594222
We have enough fucking blinkers, thankyouverymuch.

Now where the fuck is my Jeskai Blind Seer general.

>>49595564

Actually you're right, treasure cruise and dig through time were actually even more broken, on accident

>>49595543
I should. My Selvala is all about carddrawing on the side as well.

>>49595480

Just know that a deck can't actually be pimped out with alter, a single alter is so much negative pimp to your deck that even if the rest is foil and promo it can't make up for the disgusting shittiness of alters

>>49595708
We already have 4 garbage Jeskai commanders, we need another one that's good, or at least, decent.

>>49595781
Who says a color manipulator would be garbage? Just add a good second ability; 8.5 Tails is solid insofar as he's monowhite in a format that doesn't like monowhite.

What's your secret tech for Borborygmus Enraged?

I'm looking forward to trying out fateful showdown after knollspine dragon.

Finally picked up Avacyn. R8?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wait-for-it-captain-sisay-budget-ish-edh/

>>49595669
Keep in mind that in Kruphix, the characteristics of the mana don't change, like if you store mana from Boseiju, later using it to instant or sorcery, that spell can't be countered. Same goes with Hall of the Bandit Lord and such.

How can I play GAAIV without a bunch of retards with no idea of how to play focusing me and every single action that I do?

I was thinking of playing with Brago instead so at least they won't get mad until the first armageddon.

>>49595940
don't play archetypes that makes the game boring except for you ;^)

>>49595940
Assuming it's a tuned Augustin list, why would they be retarded to prevent you setting up your lockdown? That's the way the game is played.

Heres a fun budget Selvala deck. Only 2 cards over $10 and can win as early as turn 3 in a 4 player game.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/01-10-16-tap-that-ass/

>>49595796

That's not how you use "insofar as"

If something is good "insofar as" X, then X is why that thing is good, you listed his primary disadvantage

>>49596133
"Insofar as" means "to the extent that". What I'm saying is that 8.5 Tails is solid to the extent that any monowhite general can be "solid" in EDH. But this is irrelevant to the point.

>>49595915
I'm aware. But the mana does turn colorless to enable sneaky activations of Mirrorpool

>>49595940

The thing about tax effects is that they cause you to think short term

Let's say you have 7 mana, swords to Plowshares, path to exile, and a 4 mana commander you want to cast, and there are 3 creatures on the board your opponents control that you would like to kill, one of which is grand arbiter

Maybe, if you were thinking long term, you'd exile the other two creatures and leave the arbiter so that your other opponents can be taxed by jinx but if you don't use removal on him first, you won't get to play your commander this turn, mana will go to waste, and you may fall behind

People like to be mana efficient and you can't always do that if you're letting stuff like grand arbiter live

I think if you play him you have to accept that he's a major removal priority because he slows down everything else people want to do including removing each other's stuff, by playing him you prevent your opponents from killing each other as effectively as they might have and cause them to focus on you

>>49595940
The problem is that people don't like not being able to play their spells, and they don't like not being able to interact with another player's board. If you're playing GAAIV, you turn off your ability to politics with people because you can't "turn him off" so that they can do the things they want to. So it's much easier to focus you off the board so that they can do the things they want.

This is something that always bothers me about pure control players, you build your entire deck around getting to say "no" and making it harder for your opponents to win, yet you don't understand why they get mad when you do.

>>49594678
Marcheesy.

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I'm considering Viridian Revel for a developing Bant enchantress deck - anyone ever used it?

I figure that even if I don't hit some of my mass artifact hate, there are bound to be a few artifact creatures dying anyway. Sad robots and the like.

What starter(s) should i buy to build a decent deck from? I can buy a couple from the 2013 onwards but i need someone to tell me what to buy and what to do after.

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when is a spot removal too low-value to slot into an EDH deck?

i think i could use some more spot removal, and i got a Murder lying around. but i don't know if a 1BB destroy creature spell is worth running. all my other creature spot removal costs 2 mana or less to cast.

>>49596549
i am really new to EDH but it generally seems like if a card does only one thing its pretty shit in this format

i am probably wrong though

>>49596586
well you're not wrong, but this is for a mono-black deck that's tuned for a creature heavy meta. black doesn't have that many versatile spot removal cards.

>>49596549
Just run Hero's Downfall. What you want is removal that can work in multiple sitations or is EXTREMELY efficient (Swords, Path).

>>49596622
yeah i have that already. I got 4 cards in my "spot removal" category of cards right now:

>go for the throat
>tragic slip
>hero's downfall
>victim of the night

not sure that's enough. i feel like i want one in hand after turn 5 almost always, in order to stop alpha strikes and stuff

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>>49592334
Fuck you i make my own rules.

Aurelia's Better.

>>49596691
>masterpiece white gearhulk

im so sorry

>>49596678

If you're in monoblack id say yeah add a few more, murder is fairly weak though when you could be running snuff out, slaughter pact, dismember, or even maybe ashes to ashes

>>49596691
God that pic is shit, i'm on a shitty old phone until i get a new one, do apologize.

>>49596701
I mean, it went in my commander so i'm fine with it. Actually my first card opened from kaladesh during midnight prerelease.

>>49596725
i got a lot of "sac a guy" effects but i might take a couple of the weakest out in favor of more spot removal. snuff out looks broken as fuck and cheap too, i'll definitely be picking that up at one point, thanks

>>49592303
Open the picture in another tab, retard.

>>49596678
That's probably a good amount. The only real spot removal I run in my Lili deck is Tragic Slip, plus utility removal:
Plagued Rusalka
Sudden Spoiling
Faceless Butcher
Sever the Bloodline
Scour from Existence

But I generally focus on recurring Fleshbag Marauder/Merciless Executioner/Slum Reaper and tutoring up boardwipes like Black Sun's or Toxic Deluge when I need them.

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Bought a bundle for keks and ended up pulling this. Have no idea what to use it for since most of my Rx legendaries suck. My choices are
>Nekusar
>Tajic
>Mina and Denn
>Niv-Mizzet Dracogenius

>>49595518
>each turn
Explain.

>>49596809
New grenzo uses her pretty well, also obligatory rakdos, lord of riots synergy

>>49596837
make the original copy

populate the copies

>>49596760

Those are good but I do think it's smart to have instant speed options, most of the stuff you listed is sorcery speed, which doesn't work for some stuff that needs to die immediately

>>49596837

Since mirror pool puts a "token" of armada wurm (which in turn creates its own token), he can populate and get double 6/6 wurms by paying trostani's 3 mana once

Grenzo 2.0: In the 99 of Alesha or as a general?

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>>49595737
So you're saying this guy's stuff is shtty?

>>49596965
That does not fit the card at all

>>49596965
That is an extremely shitty alter

>>49596997
kek

>>49596965

Nothing wrong with the art other than that it's inappropriate for the card. The problem with alters is always that the border is all fucked up and ugly for no reason other than to be a special snowflake.

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>>49596965
By the same guy

>>49597050

See this one is fine to me because it has an actual magic card layout

>>49595485
UWBG obviously

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>>49591261
>super secret tech
Extremely meta-dependant Sol Ring++

>>49596691
>Serra Angel
>Platinum Angel
Nigger what are you doing?

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>>49596851
>New Grenzo

Eh I guess I'll just keep her in storage for now

>>49597109
Shame that it only gives the mana once per turn.

>>49592299
You need Avacyn.

>>49597159
What's your point?

Give me some fun tech for running Gahiji focusing on token swarm. Already looking on EDHREC but it doesn't give that much in the way of enchantments or artifacts.

>>49596809
Sell and then buy back later if you actually need her.

>>49595669
>Anyone have any tips for my Marath?
I think you're on the right track, but you're missing some of the more obscure (and powerful) synergies like, Spike Weaver, and you're running a few unnecessary cards like Squee and Sharpshooter. Craterhoof Behemoth and Tooth and Nail are pretty conspicuous absences since they win the game on the spot. My list is below for reference.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fires-of-yavinaya-1/

>>49597050
This is really cool, would use.

>>49596965
This is incredible shitty.

>>49597179
How about Crescendo of War or Mystic Barrier

Why do people make a Hanna Commander when Sydri exists? Is it because UW recursion isn't typically a thing? I can see why the combos would be helpful but eh.

>>49597254
Sometimes people play commanders they like even if they aren't the best, Anon.

>>49597179

Goblin trenches is a solid card, could be cool with splendid reclamation even

>>49597179
Try looking at Marath's top artifacts/enchantments. He's more popular so there's more data for the site to work with and most of his good cards should be good for Gahiji.

>>49597273
>Goblin trenches is a solid card
the absolute mad man

>>49597261
We'll of course, that goes without saying.

>>49597254
Sydri does nothing similar to Hanna

if you want enchantments and artifacts together with recursion there is simply no other acceptable commander

>>49597299

I guess edh isnt really the format for the card, I just have good memories of wrecking with it in limited

>>49597473
>Goblin trenches

Invasion/Odyssey limited?!

>>49597473
Is your EDH deck just three draft piles slapped together?

>>49597172
You have two main phases normally. More mana, dude.

>>49597486

Yes, many times, and then I drafted it again in pack 3 of the one EMA draft I did a month or so back, even though I wasn't in WR, and it won me the draft, I guess that's why it came to mind

I can see it not actually being good in edh though

The card was a fuckin powerhouse back in apocalypse limited thoug

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Anyone got a Brago list?

>>49597514

>At the beginning of each of your main phases, if you haven't added mana to your mana pool with this ability this turn...

>>49597518
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/brago-fioras-doshest-king/
This list was assembled when I was fairly new to EDH, but I remember it performing admirably.

>>49597518
winter orb
hushwing gryf
47 islands
46 plains

>>49597566

This meme is too spicy for me

>>49595708
How is Blind Seer as a general? I really like the decks concept, but im afraid it will be too durdly to actually work.

>>49597186

Sharpshooter gets really stupid in token decks though

>>49597604

What is it that you think is the deck's concept? People run blind seer because they are urza fanboys, building around the color effect with stuff like douse just doesn't work

I mean douse + blind seer works, hydroblast works, but ultimately his ability isn't even all that compatible with most color hate stuff, like if you cast hibernation, you would a shitload of extra mana floating to actually wipe the nongreen stuff in play, and you'd be better off with evac or cyc rift at that point

>>49597518
Here's mine.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blink182-2/

what do you guys think about gonti in duel edh
Can it work, if so
stax?
tempo?
what cards would i use?

>>49597693
I haven't played him yet, but he looks like tempo/value to me

Just ramp like black do, and cast/reanimate all the big fatties you can. When you have nothing better to do, cast/reanimate your commander to draw a card

>>49596965
Wow, that looks awesome. Love alters like that.

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>>49597179
Fetch Tears of Rage using Sunforger
Soul Sisters + Archangel of Thune
Saffi Eriksdottir + Angel of Glory's Rise + sac outlet (ie. Goblin Bombardment, Martyr's Cause, etc.) + ETB creatures, ideally ones that bring tokens
Bombardment + Fiend Hunter + Angel of Glory's Rise

>>49596965
You guys will whine about fucking anything. This looks good.

>>49596917
General. I'm totally building him.

>>49596965

Why would it not 'fit' her? Is there any other story part other then Saffi dying for another person? So shes just a cute.

>>49597613
We're talking about a deck that casts a reusable pinger out of the command zone. The slot that Sharpshooter is in could be a tutor that fetches one of your deathtouch enablers instead and depending on which specific tutor it was you could also get a combo piece if you didn't need to kill things or were ready to go off. Tuck is gone so don't be afraid to lean on Marath a bit more.

>>49597731
Should obviously have said ETB Humans, like Captain of the Watch, Pia and Kiran Nalaar, etc. if you want lots of tokens.

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>>49594222
>Wants to make an American deck
>Doesn't want to use Numot
Do you even mission accomplished?

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>>49598048
>six mana do nothing on EDH

Craw_wurm.dek is shit, timmy.

>>49597123
Nothing, My deck literally is designed to sit there and do nothing.

I don't play edh seriously.

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You know what would be funny as hell?

So the next set of Commanders are going to be four color right? What if instead of actually using a current color as the fourth color they make it an exclusive new color that will ever only be printed on these new commanders and a few of the new cards that come with the decks?

That would be delicious. I wouldn't be surprised if Wizards pulled that bullshit.

>>49598068
>A six mana card must win you the game that turn to be playable
Don't you have a standard environment to be complaining about?

>>49592334

Guy from the last thread, but I've found that the cheaper cost is really valuable in RW and the fact that she can swing the same turn she comes out without needing any help is awesome. I had to trim out all the fat from my RW deck when I rebuilt it, and unfortunately Gisela was one of the cards that left.

>>49598152
Numot is very slow for what he does.

>>49598152
>Putting words on other people's mouth

Numot does literally nothing, it's a 6 mana 6/6 flier that will get countered, wrathed, pathed, slipped, bounced, imprisoned, whatever. The point is, you'll be spending 6 mana to do nothing when you could've summoned Sun Titan or mulldrifter or a million other things that actually do shit.

>>49595595

Roon.

>>49598225
>it's a 6 mana 6/6 flier that will get countered, wrathed, pathed, slipped, bounced, imprisoned, whatever
You forgot "blocked", for the times when combat damage actually matters

>>49598109
Go away.

>>49598225

So do you only play etb creatures and hexproof creatures? (Not a sarcastic question, I try to do that)

>>49598109
I would laugh my ass off if the fourth "color" in all of these decks was anus mana.
The butt frustration would be unreal.

>>49598568
You are forgetting about haste creatures, and creatures with static abilities like teeg.

Not him, but isn't that how everyone does EDH?

So how is Saint Traft as a commander? Obviously voltron, but am I better off just using Daxos if I want UW voltron?

>>49598568
Or haste ones. Or ones that are powerful and cost-effective enough to either recast or be worth protecting. None of which described Numot.

>>49598568
My list for EDH playable creatures are:
1. ETB effects or LTB effects
2. Death triggers
3. Self protecting creatures (Hexproof > Shroud > Indestructible)
4. Static effect creatures whose ability matters as soon as they hit the board, like Elesh Norn
5. Activated abilities that don't require tapping
6. Haste creatures on which the haste is worth it, like Aurelia.
7. Tapped abilities.
8. Anything else.

Whenever I need to cut stuff, I go from the bottom up. I much prefer creatures that ETB search land than mana dorks, for example.
This isn't to say I won't play creatures on the lower part of the scale, just that they're more likely to get cut in the end.

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>>49593561
>Token Deck
>No Earthcraft

Nigga

>>49598735
>Shroud > Indestructible
you must play against a lot of White

>>49598640

Numot can be your commander though and gives you a good color identity

It's unlikely he'd make the 99 of any deck but I think he's still a playable commander

>>49598751

Earthcraft is one of the nuttiest cards ever

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>>49598761
Every deck in my meta has white except for a Prosh deck, a Mogis, and that UB Flash Fairy.

>>49594389
he also said they learned their lesson that people like powerful planeswalkers, then turned around and introduced the new planeswalker intro packs. MaRo is a PR man. He says whatever will get a good response. Assume it's all fiction until proven otherwise.

>>49598840
Mono-White Iona ramp.

>>49598808
Well, it is the best combo with squirrels nest and squirrels love nuts.

>>49599156

That's the joke

I need non-instant and non-sorcery ramp spells, all of them. preferably things that put lands onto the field. Here's what I have so far:

Sakura-Tribe Elder
Horizon Spellbomb
Perilous Forays
Sol Ring
Caged Sun
Solemn Simulacrum
Expedition Map
Farhaven Elf
Weathered Wayfarer (I don't like it)
Earthcraft

>>49599970
Fertilid

Keep putting counters on it for optimal ramp shenanigans

>>49599970
http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Asearch+o%3Alibrary+o%3Aland+o%3Abattlefield+%28t%3A%22artifact%22+or+t%3A%22creature%22+or+t%3A%22enchantment%22+or+t%3A%22planeswalker%22%29&v=card&s=cname

>>49599970

Wood elves
Frontier siege
Llanowar/fyndhorn elves/elvish mystic
Sylvan caryatid
Khalni heart expedition
Avacyn's pilgrim
Selvala/selvala
Thran Dynamo gilded lotus
Signets
Talismans

>>49599970

Exploration

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Is this secret tech? Its nuts, but I never hear people talk about it.

>Sit down for a pod
>Dead turn five because muh mono blue hate/counterspell boogyman

Should I be as salty as I feel? I haven't managed to consistently have fun in awhile no matter what decks I play.

>>49600249

Never seen it, seems solid but in terms of mana investment maybe people prefer something like living death of even rise of the dark realms

It's kinda in that no man's land where it's outclassed by normal reanimates because it's too expensive but also outclassed by mass reanimates because it's not cheaper

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>>49600249
Cute in Gitrog but "only good when you have lands to spare" isn't really worth a card slot.

Theoretically EDH is the format for cards like this but there are still plenty of circumstances where you happy with your land count or want more.

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>>49596343
Pair it up with this.

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>Animation Module works in Mazirek for infinite combos

I wonder how long until my group bans me from playing him

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I know some people make custom tokens, but I'm thinking about making a custom emblem. Here's what I have so far. How is it?

>>49600601
Quit whilst you are ahead.

>>49600601
>needing emblem tokens ever

>>49591542
I don't feel like going through your entire list but you should be running Serra avatar, disciple of bolas, and debt to the deathless

>>49600601
is nissa and chandra's thing canonical or just fans?

>>49600766
Nissa is just thankful for Chandra's help on Zendikar. Which is why is on kaladesh to even the score

>>49600766
Its canon, they even have a kid.

Fucking planeswalkers.

>>49600766
gotta keep the tumblr crowd happy.

They basically bitched so hard at WoTC because a Trump support got Kaladesh preview cards that they pulled all their support for that guy.

>>49600766
It's just fanwank, but I wouldn't be surprised if wizards actually pushed it because they just love that fanwank shit.

>>49600809
Mtgheadquarters guy is a fuckin goober who gives a shit

>>49600827
male angels when?

>>49600827
>not pushing Liliana + Chandra
I just want my Rakdos sex dungeon sisters

I need to build a half decent deck with nothing but shirtless males as creatures.

I'm going to use either Oloro or Daxos as the Commander. Is there anyway to make this work?

>>49600845
Its the principal of the thing. They're a fucking card company, yet because Drama is fun, people have to bitch. This would have been a nothing story if WoTC didnt bend over for the infants.

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>>49600862
Don't forget to give them sexy armor

>>49600848
They won't do that because they are actually incredibly proud about how Magic 'popularized' the whole 'female warrior angel' thing, completely ignoring that Valkyries did that, but hey!

>>49600874
Of course I wouldn't.

>>49600862
The commander should be Marchesa or Olivia and the shirtless guys her harem. Vampires are notoriously sexy, after all

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>>49600601
>Lewd Emblems

>>49600907
That could work as well. Right now I'm just trying to find what colour combination can get me the best looking blokes.

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What are some WUG pillowfort enchantments that let me and my creatures survive combat? Not Propaganda or Hexproof effects, but stuff like Statecraft or Story Circle. Preferably not color-specific, though.

Anyone care to halp?

New to Shu Yun/Jeskai in general and got bored of beatsticking with Ruhan. The maybeboard, while huge, is a list of cards I'm considering, I just don't know what to cut.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/from-entropy-order/

>>49601015
Got Dueling Grounds?

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>>49601015

>>49601101
Oh that's good.

>>49601120
Oh shit I actually have that guy in my collection somewhere. I completely forgot, he's almost a strictly-better Mark of Asylum

>>49597333
Well then you answered your own question.

>>49594222
>>49598048
Not taking motherfucking RUHAN of the Fomori for flavor, irony and pure hilarity

>>49597723
Google Klug Alters, the guy does some great work. Unless you ask most of the people in this thread. Then he's an untalented piece of shit.

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>>49601191
>Playing a 4 mana do nothing

What a great joke, anon you sure made me laugh.
My god, I fucking hate all Jeskai commanders. The only good one is Narset, and it's so absurdly good that playing it results in everyone focusing on your ass.

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>>49601220
It's to play MURICA in all it's righteousness. So, yeah, getting shut down or living and doing nothing but thumping an overglorified meat wall into nullifying or nonexistant forces until a possible technical victory can be drawn i.e. commander damage, it fits better than the dragon that destroys lands, at least flavor wise.

>>49601265
>it fits better than the dragon that destroys lands
Tell that to the entirety of the middle east.

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Have you guys seen this judge promo?

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>>49601364
Art of zur

>>49601377
>>49601364
Either fake or a future promo. Probably fake.

>>49601015
Iroas

>>49601307
ZING!

If I'm playing a deck and I have an artifact tutor, is it worth playing the artifact lands in my colors?

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Finally finished my Gahiji decklist. After doing one or two playtests I feel like somehow having more than 10% of my deck being token producers, its taking me at least ten turns or so to really get anywhere with it. Thoughts?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gahiji-token-swarm/

>>49601576
I have no experience with artifact specialty. What I *can* say, is that being able to tutor anything at all is valuable, and being able to tutor your mana base when you're having unlucky draws is even more valuable. Choice!

what is the most ridiculous card in Kaladesh for edh and why is it Panharmonicon

seems like pretty much every deck with the word "enters the battlefield" on a creature or 4 wants that card

hell even soul sisters karlov benefits from it due to how it and the sisters are worded

>>49601594
That's my thought but I dunno if being weak to more removal is worth it. Context is Karlov and enlightened tutor for the record.

>>49601603
I don't think panharmonicon has a place in most tuned lists tbqh. But it's definitely a fun card for more casual lists. Just four mana is a lot to do nothing on turn 4 or lose the tempo advantage ramp gets you playing it earlier.

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Holy shit, why did I make a RW deck my first real life, this is actually atrocious. I could've chosen literally any other color instead.

>>49601624
I hope it was at least Aurelia or Gisela. Or kalemne and for some reason you could afford swords.

>>49601633
>Wizards makes a commander for RW
>Clearly intended for some sort of giant tribal/big stuff deck
>Best way to build her is practically ignore that and and just smack face as Rafiq in shittier colors
Sad! Dont know why they thought that'd work in WR anyway.

>>49601608
Guess it just depends on your meta.

So do we have new info on Commander 2016, besides being 4 color?

Do you think they'll make a half competent mana base and fixing, or do you think they'll make heavy use of hybrid mana?

>>49601585
You're running 35 lands and about half the ramp cards are either not ramp (Joiner Adept) or slow/bad (Perilous Forays). Your curve is also too high; you have 8 spells that cost <3, most decks have 2-3 times that number, and 5 is your modal CMC.

Lower the curve with 1-3 mana ramp spells and mana dorks; start with Birds, Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach. Run more cards that actually reward you for being the token deck like Shamanic Revelation, Craterhoof, and Triumph of the Hordes. Maybe cut some recursion, you have an awful lot of it.

>>49601757
I'd bet money at least one of the commanders in each deck will be true 4 color good cards so I'd hope they give us a good mana base to match. But I soubt it. Vivids again maybe with reflecting pool plus maybe some new four color lands for the set.

>>49601608
>Context is Karlov and enlightened tutor
Probably not. I like artifact lands as a Trinket Mage target or in artifact decks like Darevi, but not in random lists.

>>49601787
Pool isn't going to get jammed in all four, but it might make an appearance in notgreen.

>>49601787
4 color lands that take 3-4 life off maybe?

>>49601806
The thought just occurred to me how good being able use the white to search vault of whispers would be tbqh. It'd probably not be worth it in mono white. I guess the issue would be mostly how many more hands that'd let me keep and if I want to spend enlightened searching a black source versus a sword or greaves or something.

>>49601015
astral slide

>>49601830
I'm skeptical that will ever come up, but having a Vault in the deck isn't super risky either.

>>49601633
It's Aurelia.
Every game, I just choke with 0 cards in hand while everyone just refills their hand with fact or fiction or whatever and here I am crying.

>>49601676
Wizards is dumb.

>>49601763
I feel stupid. What I'm hearing is that my ramp needs to be lower CMC. Is 35 too few lands? What's the difference between ramp and what I called ramp? A mana dork is just a creature that's a mana producer, right? Why is a mana dork better that what I've chosen? I'm trying to learn.

>>49601893
I can imagine it coming up pretty easily.not often but the situation is clear. Really just a hand with enlightened tutor qnd only white sources. Turn 1 is usually spent preparing for the Karlov drop anyway. Other issue would be competing one drops. If I need (dont know if need is the right word-- in theory it'd make more hands keepable) to use it turn 1 for the vault it means I'm not casting a lifelinker or soul sister. I guess il give it a shot. Opportunity cost is so low like you said.

>>49601403
It's one of the two upcoming Judge promos.
Can't recall the other offhand.

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>>49601633
is AA avacyn any good for a rw commander?

with a sac outlet and a creature you have boardwipe with built in protection at instant speed. blink becomes board protection and can lead to more wipes. conjurer closet to keep boardwiping a threat. basilisk collar for tons of health/deads. running furnace and the expys is easier knowing you can wipe even eldrazis with two of them. seems like tons of fun, you can go voltron or keep my stuff but you dont.

>>49601898
your lack of cards reminded me of first game I of edh I played.

It was down to my Mono red shit verses Simic with Kruphix because no one bothered dealing with me. I had no cards in hand, no creatures and was going to die next turn until I drew a Sudden Impact and hit him for 19 killing him.

>>49601938
She's okay, she just suffers the same problem as every other RW commander.
You'll choke without a hand and do nothing.

>>49601938
She's fine.

>>49601608
The versatility is worth considering though you'd also have to accept the risk that it'll also make your lands more vulnerable. I'd at least test it out since I can definitely imagine cases where color fixing will matter more than grabbing some equipment. If you have some more ways to take advantage of or support artifacts it also becomes better.

"Q: Could you use errata to make the nephilim legendary?"

"A: No, that’s not how we use errata these days. We don’t make mechanically functional changes with it."

It hurts to know that I'll never get to (officially) play my Glint-Eye combat-tricks tribal.

And if someone were to let me they'd just dismiss a win as "well he's banned anyway, so..."

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How do i make mean robots into the spiciest brew

pic related Spice of choice

i just want to bully people with large artifacts and have a good time, what are some go to staples or secret techs i should know of

>>49601936
Defense of the heart is the other one.

New zur art looks like shit tho, thank god its a promo.

>>49601927
35 lands is pretty low; 37-38 is normal. Mana dork usually means a creature that taps for mana like Birds of Paradise. I said that Joiner Adept is not ramp because it doesn't increase the amount of mana you have available like Sakura-Tribe Elder, which finds a land and puts it into play, does. Yavimaya Elder isn't ramp either because the lands go to your hand, bit it does provide a lot of card advantage. The rest of the category is ramp, but most of it is high CMC or slow because you need to make tokens for it to do anything. The best way to speed up that deck is to add more cards you can play in the first few turns that give you more mana/cards to work with in the mid to late game. I mentioned a few in my other post but some other options are Bloomtender, Exploration, Joraga Treespeaker, and the Ravnica signets.

>>49601938
MLD is really the only good way to build Boros and Avacyn suffers from costing 5 instead of 4, which gives your opponents more time to build a board before the Armageddon. I like her in the 99, but you need a reason to run her instead of Boros Charm.

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>>49602010
>No, that’s not how we use errata these days. We don’t make mechanically functional changes with it.
>X cannot be zero
Shut your lying jew mouth, Maro

>>49602207
Using X as 0 on that thing would be retardedly easy to break.

>>49602144
Thank you for the awesome advice!

>>49602207
That errata only happened because of a mistake in editing, though.

>>49602035
Mycosynth lattice is the obvious include for machine gunning down other people's lands. That probably won't be a good time for anyone except you though. Voltaic construct is another staple. Combined with Karn you can constantly tap and untap mana rocks. Nim deathmantle is also worth mentioning as a way of recurring your artifacts. You use Karn's ability to turn an artifact that's about to go into the graveyard into a creature and then use nim deathmantle's ability to bring it back.

>>49602278
Not making the Nephilim legendary was also a mistake.

>>49602240
He's been my main commander since he was printed and that's 100% true, but it's also not the point here.

>>49602035
>>49600328
This will work.

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>>49602447
Was this in your deck by any chance?

So I just started playing again recently, and EDH is kind of growing in my small community

Will I manage with maybe just ordering a commander online and then using my standard legal cards in the deck? I know EDH isnt necessarily competitive but i feel like most people will have these excessively well made intricate synergistic decks while I bring 100 singles from my trade binder in colors I like.

>>49602530
Depends on how cut throat your meta is. An alright deck can be made with mostly standard cards but there are some cheap mana rocks and other useful stuff like sol ring that nearly every deck uses.

>>49602530
>>49602550
Forgot to mention a prebuilt commander deck comes with a lot of generic good shit and some half decent unique cards.

>>49602566
>>49602550

The preconstructed decks look pretty good. I think I will buy one of the three color ones, and just drop my newer cards into them.

Do games run long enough that I can run a few strategies or should I be making all my cards for a single win condition

>>49601898
>Artifacts/colorless: Skullclamp, Staff of Nin, Temple Bell, isocron scepter/ spellbinder + cantrips, carnage altar, endbringer, kozilek, infiltration lense
>Red: Browbeat, Cantrips, Cantrips + copy spells, Wheels, looting + madness cards, dangerous wager (when you have no hand), dragon mage (ditto), humble defector + homeward path
>White: Cantrips, armistice, bygone bishop, mentor of the meek

>>49602681
In my experience most games last either a long fucking time or a couple of turns because of some combo. Put in at least 2-3 win cons because your main one might get fucked up by control decks.

With the 3 colour decks mind seize was the best I think but Oloro is a very powerful Commander.

>>49599970
Yavimaya Elder
Primal Druid if you have a sac outlet

>>49602698
Like I haven't tried all that shit already. The result will always be the same; you get completely outclassed and outperformed by any deck that has any of the other colors.

The only one of those that -really- lets you stay at the level are the good wheels, if you can empty your hand every single time, and Mentor of the Meek, if you can keep making tokens for it. Also
>Suggesting Browbeat

kys

>>49600323
I regularly have lands to spare with my Gitrog. Problem is more how I'm running out of a specific type. If I wanna use beseech the queen for example, I sometimes don't have another 2 black mana for other shit.

>>49602842
I'm surprised they didn't mention Puresteel Palidin. Mentor of the Meek is a trap unless you are dedicated to token generation. Pick up any generic Goblin Welder Suite: Solemn Simulacrum, Ichor Wellspring, Wurmcoil Engine (Myr Sire if you are poor)
Honestly though, just stop bitching and get a land tax + scroll rack/sensei's divining top

>>49602852
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgamoth is your friend

>>49600326
Who is your commander and what is that something of hearth's core on the far left?

>>49597538
>autism
I meant the wording on card

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>>49593961
>>49594062
>>49594419
>>49598751
Thanks for the pointers lads. Added pretty much all that looks interesting to the list and I'll cut it coming week.

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I need some clarification on a card interaction.
Reality acid-
>Enchant permanent
Vanishing 3 (This Aura enters the battlefield with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from it. When the last is removed, sacrifice it.)
When Reality Acid leaves the battlefield, enchanted permanent's controller sacrifices it.

Interacting with Brago, King Eternal
>Flying
Whenever Brago, King Eternal deals combat damage to a player, exile any number of target nonland permanents you control, then return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control.

Since brago can make cards blink, it would trigger Reality Acid's ability to sacrifice the permanent, but what happens to the 3 counters that were applied to the card after blinking? Also when it re-enters the battlefield does it get to chose a new target or does it just sit there?

>>49603639

When an aura enters the battlefield under your control you choose what permanent to attach it to. So you can choose a new target every time, the card doesn't "remember" who it was attached to last time.

The time counters are applied when it enters the battlefield, when the card is exiled by Brago the counters disappear and when it enters again it gets 3 new ones.

>>49603686
>>49603639
Importantly, Reality Acid doesn't actually target when it attaches via methods like Brago blinking it so you can sneak it onto things with hexproof and shroud.

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How can i make this guy work?

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>>49603722
Fuck, wrong image, i should start naming them

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>>49603732

You put him in Rakdos

>>49603742
>>49603732
That's what I did, yeah, Kaervek on his own is too high CMC for a commander without any innate protection while being such a massive disruptor. I can guarantee that using him as commander will net you around ~5-10 damage ping in total with him because everyone's gonna set removal aside for the moment he drops.

>>49603719
>>49603686
Huh that's quite interesting. To be honest I'm still rather new to MtG as a whole and I've been playtesting a bunch of Brago brews on TTS without knowing all that much about the mechanics that brago does outside of straight forward allowing ETB effects to trigger again and again

Is Brago basically just straight up better than Roon for a flicker deck?

>>49603912
Brago can chose as many re-enter targets as he wants, but he requires to be able to do battle damage unlike Roon. Also roon gives access to the green card pool while Brago is restricted to white and blue.

>>49603635
You have lovisia coldeyes and regal force on your list twice each. Also Midnight Guard and Presence of Gond is a infinite token combo if you're interested in it. Good luck cutting cards.

>>49603912
They're both pretty good, but Roon gives you green, which has stuff like Thragtusk, Avenger and Terastodon among other great blinking targets. Bad thing with Brago, is that you need to connect with him and usually end up doing nothing if he can't attack or you can't get him out.
Problem with Brago decks so far is the fact that usually they rely too much on commander, but brago is usually just a value machine instead of a required enabler.

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>>49592505
Nature's Wrath
Ritual of Subdual
Hall of Gemstone
Seedtime

Stunted Growth, Plow Under and Primal Command are good, but especially if you can recast them via recursion or copy them with Mirrorpool or Mirari. Be aware that there is almost no way in green to tutor this up.

Pro-tip: Play pic related as your wincon.