Genestealer Cults thread

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The rules can be used for running count-as Redemptionist Militia.

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The Genestealer cycle explained.

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Some cult banners. Which one looks best?

>>49585279
>What happens now Magus? We won and our gods are here!.
>We await the great tentacle for it shall bring us to our heaven filled with maws and teeth!.

This has the best art Ive seen in quite a while.

>>49585168
>The 5th generation also spawns multiwheeled mechanical offspring, known as cult vehicles.

>>49585052
>Weeee piggy back rides!

Alternatively

>"Brother Darius?"
>"Yeah?"
>"There's a genestealer on your back."
>"So?"
>"Just sayin'."

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And that's all the new geneart.

Before moving on to the fluff, what do you guys think of the art quality?

>>49585616
Not BAD, but not amazing.

Some of them like >>49585279 and >>49585334 are pretty good IMO, if only because of how they represent the cult.

>>49585549
Are they in Commoragh?

>Starlight glints from a flotilla of celestial bodies, visible as a shoal of dots in the night sky. While these bodies may appear beautiful at first, their surpassing ugliness becomes more evident as they draw close. This is a bio-fleet of the Tyranid race, and it has come not to enlighten, but to devour.

>The cult sees the arrival of this impossible menace as the long-awaited fulfilment of their prophecies. They believe the Patriarch’s kin, unfettered by Humanity’s failings, are here to elevate the faithful and lift them into the light forever. The skies cloud over, thickening with xenos spores as the hive fleet prepares the cult’s world for consumption. Enraptured, the cult’s true believers tell each other that it is always darkest before the dawn. Celebrations and warlike shouts ring through the streets as their devotional frenzy reaches new heights. When the Tyrannocytes rain from the sky like fleshy meteors, the cultists wave their banners high, hoping to attract the attention of the angelic host.

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>>49585616
Of the more recent warhammer art, I like it the most. I like some of them but others are still too clean, everything too separated and while stylized, not stylish?

I'll do a short dump of old genestealer cult art. I find the grit of a lot of the older work more evocative.

>>49585738
>As the giant brood-sacs of the bio-ships split open to disgorge shrieking, blade-limbed war beasts, a seed of doubt worms into the minds of the cultists. Still, their belief in the notion of star borne saviours is so ingrained they keep fighting against the wider populace. The Tyranid invaders mass together into a tide of chitin and fang, surging over the lands to cut down or consume the indigenous populations. With the Hive Mind guiding each brood, the Tyranid hordes do not see the cultists as prey; in fact they are ignored at first by the synapse creatures coordinating the attack. For a short and blissful period, cultist and Tyranid fight on the same side. Once their adversaries have been slain, the cultists become eager to embrace their distant relatives in celebration, jubilant that their star-spanning family is at last complete. They walk forward, arms wide, into the seething avalanche of weapon-forms. They too are torn limb from limb. Only then does the true magnitude of the cult’s folly hit home. The mood of the cult swiftly changes from dogged loyalty to panic.

Anyone here able to upload the ePub?

>>49585058
What do you plan on making count as for the freaky Hybrids and full Genestealers?

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>>49585759

>>49585764
>The final revelation comes both from within the cult and without. Those the cultists once adored turn upon them in the worst of all possible betrayals; any who seek succour from the Patriarch instead go to their doom. With its sentience subsumed by the greater Hive Mind, the creature becomes just another Tyranid, another nameless cell in the void-crossing super-organism that wants nothing less than to devour the galaxy. As soon as the planet’s defenders are overcome, the Patriarch and its brood will attack their own, wicked claws punching into close advisors and trusted minions, who die choking on their own disbelief. Those Purestrain Genestealers spawned upon the host planet attack their devoted parents without hesitation, slaughtering them in a flurry of talons and snapping mouths. Those of the cult who somehow survive this grim twist of fate flee as best they can, but they do not get far. The hail of Tyranid spores intensifies, and the planet itself is altered on a molecular level, becoming a noxious hell. Alongside the bodies of the wider populace, the corpses of the cultists are devoured and regurgitated into the acidic digestion pools that bubble upon its surface. There, they are dissolved into a sickening gruel, raw biomass that is sucked up by ribbed capillary towers into the bio-ships above. So it is that the host population and the cult’s parasitic reflection are made whole at last, their bodies mingled in the final act of this apocalyptic tragedy.

So GW wrote down how you can justify gene-cults fighting with and against the Tyranids. Kudos for them.

But is this fluff appropriately grimdark or too grimdark? I always assumed that the cults were too brainwashed to understand what's really going to happen to them.

>>49585781
Not that anon but they could underhive mutants that are doing penance for their existence.

>>49585738
>>49585764
Sounds awesome, I wonder if it could be possible for a cult to simply escape their world and remain in the void to act as pirates, assaulting space stations and wandering the galaxy waging guerilla warfare on whatever planet they come across, sometimes they fail and move into the next planet leaving a small contingent to eventually infect it. An Exodus of sorts that is followed by a hive fleet, maybe they are constantly replace patriarchs or magi as they suffer casualties.

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A genestealer cult on a Maiden world?

Eldar genestealer cultists confirmed?

>>49585799
Naw, this is appropriately grim dark. I think this is also the old explanation as well.

There's no art of them fighting Necrons is there?

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>>49585793

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The Tau are at it again.

>>49585860
Nah, no Necrons mentioned or seen.

>>49585859
Black Templars letting Dorn down AGAIN.

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Ork genestealer apparently still a thing.

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>>49585877

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Chaos Genestealer Cults confirmed.

>>49585859
The name 'Virgose' would imply that it's populated by humans at present.

They probably didn't want the swarm drawn there simply because they couldn't claim it later if the Tyranids eat it.

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>>49585938
oh yeah those.

>>49585499

>THIS IS OUR HIVE CITY WE STARTED OUR CULT FIRST

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>>49585907
I guess since there's no one to infect. Just might be interesting if they take over a planet then wake them up by accident.

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>>49585052
How'd this guy trade chapters?

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Why aren't the marine chapters helping the Deathwatch put down the genestealer uprisings?

>>49585907
>trust me guys this place is totally clean and productive
totally legit, this Aun'ghol

I love the four armed Emperor, do you?

>>49586198
>four armed Emperor
>Not the Skymother

Get outta here you pure-strain human!

>>49585478
So who is your money actually on in this fight?

>>49585052
I love how nonchalant and unimpressed the Marine in the center looks.

>"Please get off, can't you see that I'm trying to concentrate here?"

>>49586236
Not that anon, but from the looks of things, I see 3 Genestealer hybrids and only 2 Grotesque, so numerically the Tyranids do have a nice advantage.

Dark Eldar win long term since they can just close off the webway to parts of the city and bio-weapon the shit out of it until they're sure anything inside of it is dead.

>>49586236
If 1v1 the Aberrant has this in the bag because his strength is double the wracks(with the hammer) T4, so no FNP for him.

GSC ePub when?

>>49585799

I'd like it if a few cults had the hive mind actually establish control all the hybrids, and it goes full Jonestown. Enraptured cultists walking to digestion pools singing hymns ("I vow to thee my hivemind, devouring swarm above, entire and whole and perfect, the biomass it loves." "And did those fangs, in ancient times, devour the planets mountains green? and was the holy Swarmlord within the bleeding cities seen?) drinking as much of the fluid as they can manage before their hands and faces dissolve then pitching themselves in as their bellies distend and rupture all the while the agonies of their flesh totally suppressed by the all consuming need to feed themselves to the swarm.

But that's just me.

>>49586294
Actually, that fight seems like it's taking place in a former Imperial building. So it's more likely that the Haemonculus who owns that wrack is just testing his creations out or trying to steal a genestealer for experimenting on.

>>49586309
Agreed, the Tyranids literally built the Genestealers up for this task, makes no sense why they wouldn't put some more insane genetic pre-programming in there to make them compliant in being devoured.

>>49586368
Genestealer cults are sometimes rooted in DNA that arrived thousands of years before the bulk of the swarms. They lose contact with the hive mind over time, and some probably have no allegiance at all at this point. They've become wild animals essentially, like Catachan Devils.

That said, galaxy is a big place so both are perfectly possible if not explicitly stated in the codex.

>>49586309
pretty sure there were mentions of events like that in previous tyranid codexes

Having a bit of variety is nice, though. It's not like genestealer cults should be an exact science, considering how divergent they'll eventually be from the tyranids proper.

>>49585907
>tau maintain their reputation as the Sweden of 40k

>>49585849
Mind if i steal your idea for genestealer cult pirates? Sounds fun as fuck and i like the idea of a cult pretty much seeing the Tyranids start to invade and just think "Well, our job here is done and our reward is that we can leave while they aren't attacking up."

I wanted to do a mostly wonkatated hybrids and that could represent their generations getting all fucked up since they've skipped a part of the cycle. Also wanted to include an Imperial knight and that could be a freeblade they duped into the cult along the way/their source for a ship out of system.

So does anyone have a link to the epub, mobi or pdf?

>>49585859

Maiden worlds are often controlled by non-Eldar. It being a Maiden world just means it was originally created by Eldar.

>>49585938
Good. Lets hope the freaky xeno hybrid abominations continue for years to come.

>>49586047
I think it's not so much that the other chapters didn't respond so much as that they couldn't either bring enough forces to bear in time or not enough of them were close enough to render aid before Leviathan struck.

At least that is my interpretation of it.

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I seriously hope you guys don't fight the patriarchy

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Are there hybrids infiltrating marines?
could make for nice conversions.

post the epub.

>>49585445

Are those Cadian Cultists?
I thought Genestealers avoided the Eye of Terror.

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>>49588853
/pol/ pls go

>>49589984
While it would be cool, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work because the geneseed is incompatible or something along those lines and would most likely hurt the hybrid instead of improving it.

>>49589984

>Walk closer Brother Arthuran, I want to hit them with my knife!

>Shit man, I don't even know this Xeno

>>49585666
Those are dead kabalites at the bottom. There are districts of Commoragh where non-eldar are alowed to come and go to trade or to be mercenaries, prehaps a cult sprung up there or some other slum.

>>49590253
Well, can't imagine that kind of rabble rousing lasts long in the Dark City.

Seems kinda like something the Archons might do intentionally though. Maybe they make better sport in the pits.

What happens if, by pure chance, one of the infected on a planet is also a secret chaos cultist?
I don't really think the chaos gods would like to have their cultists turn their back on them

>>49585666
Well Satan, it would seem that they indeed are.
In fact, some of their faces look vaguely eldar, though since they are using human tech i would say they are human genestealers that just found a webway portal somehow.

>>49590265
>What happens if, by pure chance, one of the infected on a planet is also a secret chaos cultist?

Chaos corrupted cures the genestealer curse.

>>49585052
Looks like a Paul Dainton piece. Nice to see he's still doing art for them from time to time.

>>49590265
It would be the other way around. The Genestealers would become Chaos cultists. Then they stop being genestealers in short order because Chaos tells them to stop.

>>49590296
corruption*

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>>49590253
The most likely explanation is that these cults sprung from the Dark Eldar human slave workers.

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>>49586305
>>49589386
>>49590116

C'mon, damn it.

>>49585936
Well maybe if they stopped being absolute lunatics, they'd actually get shit done.

>>49586309
Yeah your way of looking at it is way better, and creepier even. It's much better than "everyone got scared because their angels were actually the demons all along, and everyone died no matter what"

>>49585965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdDXMG9jvwg

>>49585330
Truly nature is a marvelous thing

>>49585087
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> that art

Jesus

>>49585168
>the return of creative art and presentation

I like it!

>>49585279

Funny, I don't think I've ever seen THIS moment represented in art before. Odd, since it's the end-game of every gene-stealer cult.

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>>49585279

>>49585965
>The cult discovers the true meaning of parasitism and horror

What do they mean by this?

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>>49585238
The Bladed Cog flag is just North Korea.

>>49590688
something chaoswank something

probably nurglings and plague drones

>>49585965
>Making a faction lose in their own codex

For what purpose?

At any rate, it would be interesting to imagine how the corrupted genestealer cult would look like.

>>49590786
>losing in their own codex

Well, they ARE tyranids

>>49590786
Because Chaos Genestealers is where the fucking name Genestealer Cults originally came from.

Originally they were Genestealer Clans, and only when they fell to chaos did they become Cults, but the name stuck for later versions.

It has to happen at least once in new fluff.

Nice to see the cults fighting other things that the imperials.

>>49590163
Cadia-pattern gear is the most widespread in the Imperium.

>>49589951
The cult is full of totally rad characters with '80s googles.

Genestealer cults seem very promising. The models look cool, and it seem like it'd be pretty fun to play, even if not particularly competitive (they seem to have a few nice gimmicks, but overall are very fragile). Mutant Communist Esoteric Order of Dagon Miners are definitely on the list of armies I'd get if I had the time and money (I'd also paint them to match the look of actual mine and construction workers and equipment, complete with bright yellow or orange pain jobs on all the trucks and bulldozers).

Genestealer cults also made me realise I really should like Tyranids. They seem like they should be right up my alley, but for some reason they're not. I think it's partly because of their look being pretty dissapointing. Fluffwise, each 'nid organism is effective a single cell in an interstellar super-organism, and is more like a biological machine created for a specific purpose than a natural organism. Some fluff makes the Tyranids sound downright Lovecraftian, even mentioning that they aren't even made from biological matter as we normally understand it.
With all that, I'd expect something a lot weirder and gribblier than a horde of ugly six-limbed armour-plated dinosaurs wielding organic-looking guns and swords. There's some cool designs, like the genestealers, the lictor, and the malanthrope, but overall most 'nids are insufficiently gribbly.

Genestealer cults, on the other hand, focus on the genestealers, which are more interesting to me in look and fluff, and have more of the weird esoteric cult thing going on. Tyranids work better for me when they're the eldritch "star gods" or "great devourer" worshipped by mad hybrid cultists, rather than an army of hungry dinobugs that get shot to pieces by Space Marines because their codex is terrible.

>>49586007
nids would just abandon the sector. they learned pretty fast not to put their tentacles into tomb-worlds.

>>49585907

"This world is clean!"
>"Uh excuse me, Etheral, what are those ridges on your forehead above your control pheromone dispens... Er... Forhead gem?"
Nothing to worry about, world is clean
>Why is your skin a really purple like shade
Thats racism
>whats that gold spiral thing
Never you mind

>clean

>>49590786

The only codex where this doesnt happen apart from a lost outpost are the... Yes thats right! Tau!

In fact Tau players get so butthurt about losses in other codexes they are later retconned or undone.

Remember that 2 paragraph tale of Orks looting all that Tau shit? Tau players were so butthurt about these seven or so sentences their collective wailing caused Gw to have their favourite ludicrous blue mary sue farsight utterly erridicate this no name ork as he dared "defeat" the invincible tau

>>49590897
That's just being silly. Nobody complained about that specific event and GW is not swayed by the butthurt of fans.

>>49585279
That impending cloud of gargoyles

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>>49590811
I see where you're coming from, speaking for personal experience the appreciation for the tool-like biomorphs comes after some time.

>>49590897

Only one butthurt is you. You're so anal ravaged you forgot what a retcon is.

>>49585938
>fleshy bounty

mmmm

So, imagine the situation - genestealer cult manages to actually beat back the tyranids after getting attacked. What do they do then?

>>49591121
They get their individuality blatted and are eaten.

What do you think?

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>>49591121
In M41, a crack commando cult was sent to digestion by a hive fleet for a revolution they did commit. These hybrids promptly escaped from a maximum security digestive pool to the Aurelian subsector. Today, still wanted by the tyranids they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The Radicult.

>>49590805

> Cadia-pattern gear is the most widespread in the Imperium.

Read: People won't complain so much about a lack of models for other regiments if we make Cadians out to be the Guard equivalent of Ultramarines.

>>49591195
Cadian pattern gear, not actual Cadians.

It's like how most SM chapters use the same armour.

>>49591175
YO JOES!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2g8183IG04

>>49591218
Well done for proving his fucking point.

>>49591232
They don't use the same armour because of the Ultramarines.

>>49586047
>Why aren't the marine chapters helping the Deathwatch put down the genestealer uprisings?

As explained in the Deathwatch Codex the Marines at large are prioritising fighting the Arch Enemy.

>>49591249
Are you retarded?
The fluff that its the most common armor is to justify the fact GW isn't making any other plastic kits for other guard regiments.
I can't believe you need this spelled out you mongoloid.

>>49586309
>Going full Jonestown

Hey, that's my bit! If you're anyone but Steve Allen you're stealing my bit!

But honestly I think there's enough latitude with the weird and wonderful ways in which a Hive Fleet's arrival can affect the Cults, just passively walking into digestion pools is well within the bounds of acceptability.

>>49590688
They mean that the cult thought they were bad dudes until they met the real bad dudes.

>>49591306
>Arch Enemy

Who dat?

>>49591345
Chaos.

>>49585907
I fucking love that. Infecting your own populace with strange mutations and diseases to turn them into bio-weapons is spun as "Acceptance of alien life-forms" by the higher-ups.

>>49591412
Just like Western Europe.

>>49591429
/pol/ please.

>>49585549
>genestealers invading commoragh
>hand flamers
>"NOO, OUR ONE WEAKNESS!"

>>49590872
>genestealer cult that was founded on a dormant tomb world
>they take over the world but end up waiting for a hive fleet that never arrives
>society changes in to one giant cult
>sends out missionaries to infect other worlds

Good fluff for a cult?

the epub guys. NOW

>>49591503
Good fluff for a cult.

>>49585463
>no rules for Tau and Ork cults

>>49591516
Buy it for us faggot.

>>49591503
>Why and how?
>Why would it never arrive?
>That would make the Imperium of Hive fleets take notice
>Why not just ship based?
Not enough purple limos.

>>49590897
So Tau fans are /pol/ outside its hugspace.

>>49591530
Orks resist, Tau are in bumfuck nowhere.

Not the creator, but...

>>49591582
>>Why and how?

Genestealer ended up there and encountered a human settlement? Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator station?

>>Why would it never arrive?

Necron Tomb Worlds have a defence active which affects psykers, designed to keep them safe from the warp spilling into reality. it also affects the Tyranid Shadow in the Warp, so they actively avoid it amd advance around such worlds.

>>That would make the Imperium of Hive fleets take notice

The what?

>>Why not just ship based?

... entirely another good idea, that's basically what Space Hulks are and why the Imperium tries to clear them out.

So, the First Curse formation can give Purestrains Flesh Hooks, either by rolling a natural 1 or rolling a 6 and picking it.

The Patriarch can also give them the ability to strike at initiative even if they charge through terrain through a Warlord trait, and the Cult Insurrection Detachment provides a re-roll when generating the warlord trait.

With all that in mind, what are the actual chances of being able to strike at initiative, even if you charge through terrain?

1/3 chance of either rolling a 1 or a 6 for the Purestrain's ability.

1/6 chance of rolling a 3, with a re-roll.

I was never very good with statistics, what does this equate to?

>>49590354
>wanting filthy epub

>>49591609
Ship based just seems far simpler, and that "of" was supposed to be "or". Otherwise, fair points.

Still. Needs more purple limos.

>>49591609
>... entirely another good idea, that's basically what Space Hulks are and why the Imperium tries to clear them out.

The codex mentions a Void/space gene-cult with their own ships.

>>49591582
>>Why and how?
Genestealer ends up onboard one of the cargo ships headed to the tomb world and goes dormant.
>>Why would it never arrive?
Because the Nids avoid the C'Tan and, by extension, the Necrons like a plague. I mean they went AROUND the Dyson SPhere of the Outsider.
>>That would make the Imperium of Hive fleets take notice
The Imperium can lose entire planets because a clerk somewhere forgot to carry the one, and the Hive fleet, as already mentioned, would actively avoid the system the TombWorld was in.
>>Why not just ship based?
Because then the Hive fleet would actually arrive? Do you even pay attention to the lore?

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>>49590952
It's not just the tool-like biomorhps. Nid models in general look kind of "toylike", simultaneously missing the "weird organic horrors" angle by being too smooth and clean-looking and the "biological machines" angle by being pretty much a bunch of dinobugs, maybe with blades for hands or guns made from meat.

If more nids looked like this glorious bastard here, I'd be inclined to play them. Even FW's take on the more standard "dinobug" nid desing, like the hierodules, looks fairly good by giving them a more detailed and organic feel, rather than the very "plastic" look most GW nid figures seem to me to have.

>>49591628
Ship based just seems an easier way for emissaries rather than a super convenient tomb world.

>>49591325

How is he the mongoloid when you're the one arguing a completely different point? The original argument was that Cadia were the Ultramarines of IG, which falls apart the moment he pointed out that Cadian gear =/= Cadians.

>>49591646
The original point and my point are one and the same. Learn to read.

>>49591639
but if you're on a tombworld, its' less likely you'll have to do ten years worth of imperial customs paperwork whenever you stop off on a new world to prove that "No officer, these are not my dinobugs, I do not know how they got here, this ship was like this when I bought and I've been meaning to get it fumigated, but I never really got around to it."

>>49591660

The original point was countered so you shifted goal posts. He never argued about models, he argued the statement that cadians are ultras is inane, because cadian gear doesn't equate to cadians. Learn to read yourself, cunt.

>>49591628
>Because the Nids avoid the C'Tan and, by extension, the Necrons like a plague.

Tyranids have harvested dormant Necron worlds. There was a dynasty that was decimated when the Tyranids harvested their planets while they slept.

Tyranids were shown to avoid active tomb worlds.

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I'm currently writing my cult's fluff to center around the infection of an enormous cargo ship with the leader of the missionary cult that arises on it being the psychically awakened first-infected matriarch; the spacebound society spreads its faith and dinasty on the various worlds it touches in its travels with a small flotilla gathering in its wake, subconsciously outrunning the main tyranids fleet that would consume it, as some genestealers are said to do, to farther spread the infections.

>>49591687
You really need to re read the posts more carefully, you misunderstand.

>>49591666
But Satan, tombworld base or not, you have to use ships to travel.

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>>49591195
Or you could say that cadians got the short end of the stick since they don't even have specific models and use the generic guardsmen look instead.

>>49591121
option 1 - get eaten by the next generation of purebreed
option 2 - get mindcontrolled by the next generation of purebreed (repeat the cycle)
option 3 - get purged by the imperial counterattack
option 4 - die of old age after a generation
option 5 - tweak their genome so the next generations aren't controlled by the hiveind.

>>49591175
I like you.

>>49591808
Guardsmen didn't use to be generic is part of the point.

Anyone have a mobi, epub or pdf?

>>49591828
Just buy warlord games minos and convert, faggot

>>49591842
That off scale alternatives exist isn't in question.

>>49590897
>implying Geedubs listens to anyone

I just like how you took a discussion about genestealer cults and found a way to turn it into a chance to wail about Tau.

>>49591944
it's Carnac, he'll find a way to wail about the Tau in a thread about sci-fi cleanliness.

>>49591965
Don't lie. Carnac is pro-Tau. Oh...wait did you bring him up for no reason just to troll?

>>49585238
>>49590698
And the mummy on the Pauper Princes' banner is holding A SICKLE AND A HAMMER

SPACE COMMUNISTS

>>49591965
How else do they keep their skin so blue?
>Maybe she's born with it?
>Maybe it's Tau'va.

Since my SoB are almost done.

My current fluff is they are an Inquisitor Personal army.

The question how to integrate a SoB/Inquisition Army into a Genestealer one. Mostly till i
I finish making a proper cult one.

>>49592014
>"Be one with Yuri!"

>>49592019
>How else do they keep their skin so blue?
Custodes snuggles?

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>>49591828
Basic guardsmen were always standard space infantry with helmet, breastplate and fatigues. Even before Cadia was a thing.

Also, from an economic standpoint, why would you refuse to make a generic range to go alongside all the colorful regiments? It's shooting yourself in the foot.

>>49591728
Why would they do that? Necrons have no biomass and are usually entombed in the depths of the planet, and most of the tombworlds in the fluff are already lifeless.

>>49592052
Inquisitor Notaradical is using a Notxenotech device to simulate the hive mind. And it's totally not Heresy. Honest.

>>49592077
>Always
One image out of the larger context of GW history doesn't erase the existence of countless guard regiments and their models.

>>49589984
No, he'd get detected instantly.

>>49592052
Canoness Breeders

>>49592115
Emphasis on "basic"

>>49592052
Crazy inquisitor trying to control the xenos via remote ala Aliens?

>>49585666
some wych cults did bring genestealers into the gladiator pits

>>49585463

The Tau player then thanks the Cult player for using over costed genestealer pure strains, because, really, any close combat unit is over costed vs Tau.

>>49592077
>Why would they do that? Necrons have no biomass and are usually entombed in the depths of the planet, and most of the tombworlds in the fluff are already lifeless.

After 60 million years, life can spring up on tomb worlds.

The Tyranids did not destroy the Necrons tombs directly. The Tyranid harvesting processes causes earthquakes and seismic upheaval that crush and damage the tombs hidden below the worlds surface.

>>49591175
I fucking lold, well done.

>>49592173
After Rogue Trade era, there was no "basic" guard regiment until GW recently decided "it's this one we make plastics of."

Do people actually expect GW to make plastics for more Guard regiments? You would have to make half a dozen plastic moulds for every one and most of them won't sell enough to justify it.

>>49592689
In your opinion.

>>49585330

I think that only happens if genestealers infect a tau world.

>>49585381
>OH JESUS CHRIST THERE'S GENE STEALERS EVERYWHERE! KEEP SHOOTING AND I'LL CLIMB ON YOUR BACK AND STAB ANY THAT GET NEAR US, Mr. SPACE MARINE!

>>49592719
How is that an 'opinion'? It would cost them hundreds of thousands at a minimum.

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>>49586309
>("I vow to thee my hivemind, devouring swarm above, entire and whole and perfect, the biomass it loves." "And did those fangs, in ancient times, devour the planets mountains green? and was the holy Swarmlord within the bleeding cities seen?)

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>>49592153
Breeders you?!

>>49592987
Are those slave bolter bitches?

>>49590811
>Some fluff makes the Tyranids sound downright Lovecraftian, even mentioning that they aren't even made from biological matter as we normally understand it.
Ooh, where's that said?

>>49592922
>Won't sell enough
That's the opinion.

If I'd told you two years ago genestealer cults were being given a codex and multiple plastic kits you'd say the same argument.

Wonder if a GSC could infect a Knight planet.


Or a cowboy planet. or a mob planet

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>>49585499
That truck is decent, but I really miss the aesthetic of the old limos. They would have gone well with the radicult. At least there is some nice third party alternatives.

>>49592225
Even in the pinnacle of regimental equality, the second edition codex, Cadians were always meant to be average joes.
The painting tips gives us: typical guardsman (only cadians and one lost catachan), ceremonial dress guardsman (only mordians), desert guardsman (only tallarns), jungle guardsman (only catachans), winter guardsman (only valhallans). If all regiments were meant to be equal we would have cadians with winter camo or tallarns with jungle camo. But GW intended each one to fit one niche, and cadians's niche is "typical".
Even the names gives it away : Iron Guard, Jungle Fighters, Desert Raiders, Ice Warriors, Rough Riders, and Shock Troops. I wonder which one of those has the less amount of personality.

>>49586309
They had that in older codexes, they'd march happily into the bioships feeling like they were going home.

>>49593006
Believe it was in the Hameonculi Covens dex. One of the reasons they're so interested in studying the Tyranids.

Nids make more (or less, depending on how you look at it) sense when you understand that the dinobugs are not the "true" Tyranids. The "true" Tyranids is the Hive Mind, an incomprehensibly vast cosmic entity formed from the gestalt psychic conciousness of individual 'nids, but far greater than the sum of its parts. The dinobugs are little more that organic robots, spawned by the Hive Mind to accomplish its goals, and after they've served their purpose they will be reduced to biomass along with the defenders of the planet. They're only organisms in a technical sense, and more like machines made from something that closely resembles meat.

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>>49593176
>Wonder if a GSC could infect a Knight planet.

>>49593267
No reason why not. Cultists probably couldn't pilot Knights, but if a Genestealer was able to implant and hypnotize a pilot, that would work.

>>49593293
>No reason why not.
I'm not disagreeing with you, that pic is just the symbol of house mortimer, a loyalist knights house.
The symbology already implies implications.

>>49593204
Fair enough.
I still miss the less cookie cutter guard regiments though. :,(

>>49593267
Delete this

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>>49593330
>implications
Shit.

They really ARE everywhere.

>>49593263
Or they are just a dinobug race capable of bioengineering and psychic communication on a large scale and has developed into an utilitarian society.

We have no reason to assume the primordial tyranid doesn't share characteristics with the bioengineered ones especially considering there's a clearly recognizable basal form behind the modifications.

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Worship the dragon!

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>>49593476
Acquire superior fashion sense!

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>>49585020

>Sisters Player.

>Still no sisters. Now Harlequins and Genestealers have updated armies.

>>49585859

I think its more the BT stopped the eldar purge and the cult spread.

Aren't knights basically AI Evangelions? Like the machibe has an AI and it will only interface with someone it trusts, then they mindmeld or whatever?
I'd imagine the Knight would pickup pretty quickly that its pilot is being mind controlled

>>49593263
>>49593006
>>49593439
The 2nd edition fluff states that tyranids were originally a regular race with a mating-based reproduction mode and that they evolved into what they are when some of them simply started spontaneously cloning themselves.

They're made of regular organic matter, the only difference is that norn queens can make their kids mutate at will.

>>49592689
If they made Vostroyans in plastic I would be all over that shit.

>>49585938
Wait that implies the orks used the stealer cult, not that it took them over.

>Octarius you so orky

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>>49593495
>mfw the next armies are: Exodites, Eldar pirates, Squats, Zoats, Slanni and even Skavens dug up from Jes Goodwin's old concept art

>>49593570
>Exodites
Fuckin' Eldar Dino Riders, I fucking hope so.

>>49593495
I see the GSC as a good thing as the sisters now get a primary foe.
GKs have Daemons, Deathwatch have xenos and Sisters fight Witchcraft, Heresy and Mutation of which GSC cover all 3.
Deathwatch don't primarily go after genestealer cults, they fight outside threats. Hereticus fights the threats within and Hereticus is the only Inquisitional army not yet with the chamber militant army in plastic.

>>49585907
You know people are implying the Genestealers got to an Ethereal.

I think the more disturbing thing is the Tau basically genocided themselves so hard a planet was clean of Genestealers in 10 years.

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>>49593634
Also neoromantic glam eldar pirates all trying to out-bowie each other

>>49593495
Codex Inquisition =][=
Codex Grey Knights - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Malleus (The Threat Beyond) - Destroys daemonic threats and investigates the nature of the Daemon.
Codex Death Watch - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Xenos (The Threat Without) - Investigates and eliminates alien influence and plots against the Imperium.

Missing:
Codex Adepta Sororitas - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Hereticus (The Threat Within) - Investigates and roots out heresy, mutation, and rogue psykers from humanity, and polices the Ecclesiarchy.

We have an enemy for the Grey Knights in the form of daemons, Death Watch has numerous foes to fight as well. Ordo Hereticus on the other hand hasn't had a pure threat until now, what I mean is a threat to the imperium that falls into all 3 criteria: Witchcraft, Heresy and Mutation.
Genestealer cults fulfill all of these, they are the ultimate foe of the Ordo Hereticus. GK and Death Watch don't deal with these threats, or rather it's not their primary objective.

So in my wishlisting mind I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Sisters release this year, there was a rumor about them being released sometime at the end of this year that popped up at the start of the year. I believe this was the rumour but I can't remember exactly what or who posted it.

>>49590688
>Haha I'm going to give those filthy humans gene-aids
>OH NO SUPER AIDS

>>49593570
Enslavers when?

>>49593674
The Death Watch is organized in small teams SPECIFICALLY to deal with shit like genestealer cults, not to fight against full-scale xenos armies.

The thing battle sisters are canonically, officially meant to eradicate are renegade marines. And normally they're after chaos cults.

>>49590204
hey reddit

>>49593539
I don't remember knights asking their pilots to be human really, as much as they require a strong will and a thirst for battle.

>>49593708
>The thing battle sisters are canonically, officially meant to eradicate are renegade marines.

That's not true though.

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>>49593664
>clean

>>49593708
Nah. RT-era lore is irrelevant. Especially when it's derived from a single picture.

>>49585168

why is is this counter clockwise jesus

>>49591133
The fluff doesnt agree with your interpretation anymore

>>49593674
It's mind-boggling how much bullshit SoB players are capable of coming up with in order to justify their whining.

THE ORDO HERETICUS ARE WITCH HUNTERS
WITCH
HUNTERS

NOT BALD PURPLE COMMUNIST HUNTERS

>>49593665
Sadly, I think Eldar Pirates are now just DE and Harleys. But Exodites are still seperate enough.

Mind you, I'd never have expected genestealer cults would be revived with plastics no less.

I'd not even be shocked by codex Jokaero now.

>>49593924
Codices I'd LIKE to see after this:

>Eldar Corsairs
>Sisters of Battle
>Non-Chaos secessionists and separatists
>Human pirates, mercenaries, and criminals
>Adeptus Arbites
>Ork Freebooterz
>Xenos Mercenaries, which might double as a Tau Auxiliaries codex (because Tau crunch has effectively phased out most of the xenos auxiliaries they're hyped up to have)

>>49593966
We don't need a Codex for Eldar Corsairs, their FW list is already really solid.

>>49593966
What I'd LIKE to see after this
>40k is replaced by a skirmish game that uses all existing ranges and heavily encourages converting and kitbashing.

>>49593976
What we need is a miniatures range for them, because FW's conversion kit is shit.

>>49593966
If Xenos Mercs included Demiurg and Jokaero, count me in.

But I'm afraid Bolter Bitches will always be =][= now...
>Plastic genestealer cults
...then again, maybe not.

>Seperatists
Needs Sensei.

>>49593674
I would rather have an Adeptus Ministorm codex instead of an Ordo Hereticus one. I'd like for the Ecclesiarchy to be fluffed out more, and priests, frateris militias and opus dei black ops operatives would be cool.

>>49593708
They were meant to eradicate any renegades, including inquisitors.

But nowadays, they're the armed force of the Ecclesiarchy, and its internal police at the same time.
The Ecclesiarchy isn't a part of the Adeptus Terrra. In that regard it's akin to the Mechanicus.

btw, there's a /tg/ fanmade codex
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Codex_-_Adepta_Sororitas:_/tg/_7th_Edition

>>49594004
>>49593966
>Sensei
fuck yes.
Gimme space highlander right now.

>>49594008
I agree there's enough of a basis to make the Ecclesiarchy an entire army in its own right, with the Sisters of Battle providing MOST of the foundation for it. I'd absolutely be willing to see the Sisters rolled into a wider Imperial church army.

>>49594001
What? It's great. I mean the range needs to be expanded to cover the unit types that are lacking models, but for your basic infantry it's a neat little conversion pack.

>>49594043
The issue is that the Ecclesiarchy can't have an official army, so the ordo hereticus makes a solid foundation for it.

I'd really really like to see the brother-templars get more miniatures than just those two inquisitorial retinue models. They're canonically even more badass than the sisters.

>>49594032
>>49594004
>Sensei

I'm not sure I'm following. Why's the Sensei relevant to non-Chaos separatists trying to secede from the Imperium?

>>49594044
>hey let's put fairy wings on your guardians
>it's great!
no it's not.

There isn't even a corsair prince model with his space-cat.

>>49594064
Because they're better than that shitty idea.

>>49594060
>Refluff Crusaders as individual Frateris Militia mobs that are TOTALLY just Frateris Militia on paper, no really, guys
>Emphasize the use of Frateris Militia in the Ecclesiarchy order of battle as the cannon fodder
>Battle-Sisters take center stage
>Whole Confessor squads who are simply taking to the field on their own initiative, in a totally-not-violation of the Decree Passive
>Penitent mercenaries hired by individual priests to support the war effort on the sly, TOTALLY FRATERIS MILITIA GUYS

There's totally ways to get around this whole 'can't have an official army' thing.

>>49594064
Sensei.
Sons of The Emperor, last I checked.
Supposedly of course.

>>49588853
As a Swede this hurts my feelings.

>>49594085
I have a simpler solution.

>SoB 'leads' the army and make up elite troop choices
>Priests totally just 'advise' the SoB. Because War is a spiritual matter.

>>49594085
The frateris militia are outlawed. The brother-crusaders are the tiny-ass elite corps that replaced them.

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>>49594098
Good.
Swedes deserve to be bullied until they grow a spine and save their homeland and people from the destruction and extinction that loom over both.
t. a Finn

>>49594101
You're thinking of Frateris Templars, which were the Vandire-era military arm of the Imperial Church. They got outlawed, but Frateris Militia are just a mob of the faithful that HAPPEN to follow a priest to war when he points and says 'hey, look, heretics, let's go kill them.'

Totally still not kosher by the Decree Passive, but officially-speaking, no one can call the Ecclesiarchy on it because it's just a bunch of faithful civilians grabbing whatever shit's on hand and going to purge the heretics.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Frateris_Militia

>>49594070
>no it's not.

Yes it is. It's also classic. The old Rogue Trader-era Corsairs had those helmets and dragonfly-wing Jetpacks.

>>49594120
Thats why you don't call them an army
you call them 'volunteers'

>>49594133
No.
Most of them didn't have those jetpacks. Also, they had chainmail undersuits and thick shinguards.
Just slapping fairy wings on regular craftworlders is lazy and lame.
Not to mention that over the years, GW has presented us several corsair conversions made by combining eldars, dark eldars, high elves and Empire footsoldiers, and they all looked incredible, with feathers everywhere and pirate sleeves.

>>49585965
Oh my Dark Gods. This is amazing. I'm going to make a Chaos-Genestealer Cult!!

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>>49594112
Just kidding, senpai. I aint concerneced about the immigration politics at all. Have fun living next to Russia, perkele-bro.

>>49594149
>>49594120
>>49594119
>>49594101
>>49594085
Solution:

The church and helps organize citizens crusades. These are assemblies of private individuals and volunteers who march off to fight the Imperiums enemies, uncommanded by the Ecclesiarchy.

Of course in order to oversee the spiritual well being of these armies they are totally not commanding, the Ecclesiarchy sends priests and church officials along with the citizen crusaders. These priests 'advise' and 'oversee' the Crusaders for spiritual matters. Of course the priests bodyguards, the Adeptus Sororitas, come with them to protect them! And these Sororitas, being experienced with martial matters, 'advise' the crusaders as well.

So you see, that army isn't being led by the Ecclesiarchy, it's being led by High General Sockpuppet, a Merchant Lord whose faith is so great he often has an Imperial Cardinal on hand to advise him on spiritual matters and who routinely asks the adeptus sororitas for polite but completely not required suggestions on how to direct the army which he totally leads for no other reason than his great spiritual zeal

>>49594202
Bingo.

Naturally everyone else is just giving High General Sockpuppet a death-glare worthy of Khorne, but High General Sockpuppet is a man of belief in the God-Emperor and few can find fault with his reasoning.

>>49594202
Solution 2
A retcon allows a loophole.

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>>49594183

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>>49594177
Good, goood.

>>49586368

Genetics and evolution is messy. Any lifeform irl is full of weird stuff simply because it's attached to the actual traits that are being selected for. 'Family' dog breeds almost always have floppy ears because it's attached to docility and immaturity, whereas aggressive and working breeds tend to have stiff, pointed ears.

Besides, there's heaps of reasons to have variation. Maybe if they're too compliant they don't get anything done or they're all basically autists who can't go cozy with the upper echelons of society, or they lack initiative and don't get noticed for promotion etc.

The nids probably try to get them as diverse as possible, so they're adaptable and can come at the society from every angle

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>>49594245
Finland is ready for the outsiders

>>49586368
>Agreed, the Tyranids literally built the Genestealers up for this task, makes no sense why they wouldn't put some more insane genetic pre-programming in there to make them compliant in being devoured.

Because it doesn't matter at all.
Compliant or not they'll be devoured anyway.
It might even be advantageous for them to panic, if any can get away they can bring their taint to yet more worlds.

>>49594279
No.
Finland is for Finns.
Outsiders are not welcome.

>>49594202
>>49594240
Solution 1 is how it already actually works in-lore as of right now. Frateris Militia are a thing (or at least haven't been straight-up contradicted).

>>49594309
Unless we're talking about finnish genestealer cults, no fucks are given.

>>49594245
it's simple, build a big bridge over your fence
is of genius

>>49594334
Well, now that we are in real world issues, how fast would a genestealer cult subvert Earth?

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>>49594309
That's what I meant

>>49594375
>how fast would a genestealer cult subvert Earth?

People would be lining up to join. All in the name of diversity. Hell, we don't have the Imperium's prejudices against mutation. The Hybrids could probably advertise openly.

>>49594375
Right fucking quick, m8. Especially since we'd be dealing with a threat the likes of which is outside of our usual Earthling frame of reference and we can't account for its abilities until it's too late.

Now, moving on.

Would Genestealer Cults from different Hive Fleets fight each-other?

>>49594375
Very quickly.
>DON'T BODY SSSSSHAME ME SSSSSSSHITLORD
>#NotAllGenestealers
>#PurpleLivesMatter

>>49594399
People would be cheering for it, and people would openly talk about browsing GENESTEALED

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>>49594375
>>49594399
>>49594414
>>49594439

>>49594399
>>49594414

Honestly these.
Frankly, I'd be tempted at the idea of some of the genetic upgrades the cult might offer. I think a lot of people would be.

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>>49594439
To be fair, shit's already hot as fuck.

>>49594460
See>>49594474

>>49594399
>>49594414
Not in the name of diversity, but in the name of scientific progress. They'd just have to piggyback the transhumanist meme that's been trending for a few years.
People seem to find self-mutilation very cool, so why not do biological deformities too?

>>49594498
>Not in the name of diversity

It would certainly be in the name of diversity.
Science is actually pretty well regulated.

>Omigawd leave genestealers alone you neurotypical cis white male it's part of his culture

>>49594400
I imagine them "fighting" like Jets and Sharks.

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>>49594498
...Y'know, it's implied hybrids would live for a really long time and have above-average physiques.

>post yfw the Genestealers made us all posthuman warriors
>"This isn't a war ordinary humans can win! This is the futue - Death is an INCONVENIENCE now! Nothing more! We are ALL...DEAD MEN WALKING!"

>>49594538
Like he said, they'd latch onto transhumanism. Not everything has to be about that pink haired girl that turned you down.

>>49594555
Yes, this is precisely why people would be willing to relinquish their last bits of free will in exchange for an improve immune system for themselves, and three arms for their kids.

>>49589984
Space Marines are stupidly robust and have CONSTANT medical tests to check for corruption, mutation and infection. Plus, they have to submit their Gene-Seed for inspection when the tithe comes along.
Genestealers are far easier to spot in a closely-bound organization like the Space Marines than Chaos Cults; the fact that Genestealers always come with physical aberration while Cults can stay physically clean is a big difference.

>>49594573
>Like he said, they'd latch onto transhumanism.

Fucking why?
Transhumanisim is a shitty fringe movement, and the few proponents of it wouldn't want to be associated with the idea of ugly monsters and generations of breeding to become more human like.
Meanwhile liberalism is mainstream and tailored to make people accepting of individuals not like them.

>>49594538
>Science is actually pretty well regulated.
yeah, pretty well-regulated by the military-industrial complex. Why else would scientists still be working on body control devices and ways to hypnotize people into liking things by stimulating their brains during their sleep? You know, it's the process the media have recently been hyping up as "scientists find a way to erase bad memories", it's actually a way to make people (mice, for now) enjoy things through pavlovian association.

>>49594586
>free will
literal meme quality

>>49594620
>yeah, pretty well-regulated by the military-industrial complex.

Who would have zero interest in releasing an alien contagion amongst the populace.
Mad science doesn't exist in reality.

>>49594616
>Why would a group that looks to be evolving to a transhuman state popularise itself via transhumanism?
Truly a mystery.

>>49594616
I don't think it's as fringe as you say it is. Google's got plenty of them in their workforce, and there's currently a bunch of ad posters for conferences that promote it in my city.

I mean it sure is shitty, but it's trendy and it doesn't have a strong opposition. Liberalism is a lot more widespread, but it's also got an equally vocal opposition that will be quick to point out the bullshit.

>>49594604
>Cults can stay physically clean is a big difference.
Don't tonnes of Chaos cultists get mutated to shit? Especially if your Tzeencthi.

>>49594616
Maybe because it has objective physical benefits, which it hasn't had up until this point.

You'd get the usual bible-thumpers and other fringe groups trying to fight real progress, but the objective, physical, 'purely mechanical' benefits will eventually outweigh the perceived downsides.

The bits about the Hive Mind will likely go unmentioned until it's far too late, but who cares?

>>49594650
Maybe not mad science, but bad science does.

And don't forget that genestealer hybrids have hypnotic powers: convincing a military higher-up that your alien contagion project is totally sound and a great benefit to the efficiency of the armed forces would be very easy to them.

>>49593924
>Eldar Pirates are now just DE and Harleys
The fuck you on about? Tonnes of craftworlders ditch the strictness of the Path lifestyle to be pirates. Some come back, some go full Dark Eldar.

>>49594675
It's not an alien contagion, what are you a tinfoil hatter?

It's just bio engineered super soldier serum. Like Captain America.

>>49594664
This.
People are ready to run the risk of having their brains hacked in exchange for being able to browse the internet without having to move their fingers.
Being indoctrinated into a hive-mind in exchange for an extra arm won't seem like a big deal in comparison.

>>49594687
I think he means in terms of niche and products, not fluff.

>>49594696
Does it come with a cool superhero costume?

>>49594701
They don't tell you about the Hive mind until you've cleared enough thetans.

>>49594651
But they become more human with time.

>>49594652
>I don't think it's as fringe as you say it is. Google's got plenty of them in their workforce

What % of google's total workforce is the population? It's fringe as fuck.

>I mean it sure is shitty, but it's trendy and it doesn't have a strong opposition.

You don't think it wouldn't gain opposition when people saw genestealer hybrids?

> Liberalism is a lot more widespread, but it's also got an equally vocal opposition that will be quick to point out the bullshit.

People point out liberal bullshit all the time, and it doesn't matter when there's enough people who eat liberal bullshit.

>>49594664
>You'd get the usual bible-thumpers and other fringe groups trying to fight real progress, but the objective, physical, 'purely mechanical' benefits will eventually outweigh the perceived downsides.

It won't. People are generally very vain and few will adopt something if they don't like the look of it.

>>49594675
>Maybe not mad science, but bad science does.

Bad science is a poorly designed experiments and falsified data. It's not throwing alien goo at people and seeing what happens.

>>49594715
But of course. Purple's cool, right?

>>49594729
They could. As a matter of fact they could even use "invasion of the body snatchers" as a marketing tool to promote their agenda, just like how transhumies are using Ghost in the Shell to promote theirs, and nobody would be any the wiser.

>>49594064
Sensei in the older fluff had a very strong belief in humanitarianism and typically went from planet to planet overthrowing corrupt and tyrannical government and establishing new, benevolent in their place. They also frequently foiled the works of Inquisitors in regards to the executions of innocent and the abuse of their powers.

Since the most corrupt and inefficient in the galaxy are the High Lords of Terra and the Inquisition and because the Sensei's ultimate goal was the reincarnation of the Emperor via the Star Child, the two are bitter enemies.

>>49594739
Evil science then?

>>49594739
You are both No Fun allowed and lack any imagination.

You're acting like they'd be up front about it all.

They'd be scientology 2 electric boogaloo.

>>49594741
Make sure to include a cape and you've got your funding, son!

>>49594769
But scientology is already not cool anymore.

>>49594748
Your world must be a very lonely and scary place indeed.

>>49594753
Ooooh boy the star child thing.

Ain't that some shit.

any suggestions on different colorations for the genestealer parts of the minis?

>>49594795
Don't worry my man, it'll be yours too eventually.

>>49594801
Teal green.

Orange.

Anything not eye-searing would work.

>>49594786
Not being cool isn't the same as not still exerting power and influence. Besides, I said they'd be the trendier sequel. With REAL super powers.

>>49594801
blue and beige works pretty good.
also black and red+pink.

>>49594769
>You are both No Fun allowed

I'm not, I'm just challenging the idea that a fringe group and imaginary mad scientists would be responsible for alien infiltration when liberals have already been turned into the method for importing alien elements into society.

>You're acting like they'd be up front about it all.

I'm pointing out that they could be. There's no need to be covert when people will defend you if they think someone might be being racist to you.

Anyone posted the pdf or epub yet?

>>49594823
The question is: which hollywood actor would be the poster child for genestealer cults?

>>49594840
Tom Cruise. He has experience running cult.

>>49594837
Stop asking for ePub, you'll see it when you see it.

>>49594834
Except people aren't functionally retarded as a general rule. Openly importing an alien contagion would be the kind of thing to get pushback, but covertly framing it as a multigenerational augmentation procedure would gain more ground than people think.

>>49594834
>I'm not, I'm just challenging the idea that a fringe group and imaginary mad scientists would be responsible for alien infiltration when liberals have already been turned into the method for importing alien elements into society.
Then clearly it'd be a mixture of both.
On one side you got scientific progress, on the other social progress. They're both the same meme, fundamentally.

>>49594834
Yeah, we got that. You made a point to repeat yourself ad nauseum.

Could you try some other tune perhaps? Or at least a remix?

>>49585478
Seeing that we have genestealers and dark eldar fighting in front of an imperial building, can we assume that there are hive cities with at least 5 or 6 different secret cults?

>>49594863
ad nauseam*

>>49594873
you mean cults of different kinds or all gencults?

>>49594840
Sigourney Weaver.

Hive Mind loves irony.

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>>49593495
Bah, just play Kill Team with non-GW models instead. Much better.

>>49594245
No one can stop change.

>>49594873
Hive cities have human populations numbering in the billions.

It wouldn't be impossible. Statistically speaking, I'd be shocked if it weren't more cults in a single city, nevermind an entire hive world.

>>49594887
No pls not Siggy!

>>49594375
I don't think it would matter of the Tyranids were heading for present day Earth anyway.

>>49585849

>genestealer cult pirates

That's a fucking 10/10 idea, anon. I hope we will see something like this. Knowing GW though, it won't happen.

>>49594897
The upside is, she'd look twenty years younger.

>>49594886
Cults of all different kinds.
Chaos, xenos and humans who have any sort of political or religious agenda.

>>49594916
And we already know she looks good without hair.

>>49594932
It's a win win.

Next, Patrick Stewart.

>>49594921
In that case DUH! OBVIOUSLY! There's billions of people in a single hive city, why WOULDN'T there be a bunch of nefarious cults all working at once?

>>49594942
Cultist gang wars aren't unheard of in the lore, if I'm not mistaken. Necromunda with Chaos and Genestealer cults when.

>>49594856
>Openly importing an alien contagion would be the kind of thing to get pushback

They don't have to be blatant about being aliens.
Poor ugly Abdul needs money and protection from bigots would have people eating from the palms of their hands far easier than hundreds of couples suddenly deciding to make their babies into monsters through an unknown augmentation process.

>Then clearly it'd be a mixture of both.

Still don't see it. The science of making ugly babies is never going to be popular.

>>49594863
>Yeah, we got that.

Good, then stop trying to refute me.

It makes me wish that Chaos cultists would also get their own codex.

>>49594954
>The science of making ugly babies is never going to be popular.
That's why you need the body-positive crowd to join in during the first stage.
"SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE THREE ARMS. GET OVER IT."

and then you can pass it off as cool.

>>49594956
Renegades and Heretics functionally count-as this.

Granted it's bits of the IG armory mashed with what're basically Vraksian Renegades.

>>49594954
It's a two-stage process. the first stage is acceptance of monstrosity (liberalism) the second stage is promotion of what's no longer considered monstrous (transhumanism).
The first alone isn't enough. That's why genestealer cults have a Magus: a public figure who's there to spread the cult and make random people join it instead of just tolerating it.

>>49594953
Wasn't the Imperial cult so excessive at Necromunda that it was one of the main reasons Chaos cults doesn't flourish there?

>>49594954
I'm not trying to refute you, I want you to make some more suggestions that are, I dunno, fun?
Maybe leave your demons and boogeymen out of it for a post or two?

>>49594954
>then stop trying to refute me.

Not how it works, anon.

Get over it. You must deal with the fact that the fire rises.

Subordination to the march of history is inevitable. Go with the flow or be crushed beneath the heels of the new way. Saying 'no' is not productive.

>>49594976
People in general will accept three armed uglies.
People in general would not accept parents turning their children into three armed uglies.

People are sympathetic to people who have had bad stuff happen to them.
People are not sympathetic to people who do bad shit to others.

Transhumanisim makes little sense as an angle here.

>>49595006
I just want my Slaanesh cult with daemons and without Tyranid.

>>49595009
Thank the Emperor we got the redemptionists!
Too bad they don't acknowledge the authority of the ecclesiarchy and are actively trying to burn and torture everybody.

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>>49594921
>>49594873
That got me thinking.
It wouldn't be hard at all for Eldar to form cults in hive cities.

Think about it.
The Eldar are:
>beautiful beyond compare
>possess technology that seems like magic to imperials
>non DE Eldar possess actual fucking magic because they are potent psykers
>extremely long lived, basically immortal by human standards anyways.
>look human enough that they could sneak around without being imedeately noticed for aliens, like Genestealers are, so not as big need to hide.

An Eldar, should he/she wish, could just start charming humans into following him/her, and build an army of devoted followers who utterly love their master, and/or bribe stronger willed and influential humans to his/her side, with basically magic technology, weaponry etc.

A bored Eldar could basically just DIO it up in some hive city for centuries without anyone noticing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmxNZH3zrK8

Now that I think of it, that wouldn't be too bad of a premise for a Dark Heresy adventure.