Guardsmen never die

>>49520204

What the fuck is up with this obsession with a failed state?

You made this because you say the Rhodie elves posted in /k/, didn't you?

>>49522474
It only failed because literally the entire world was against it.

>>49520204
That depends on whether or not it's /pol/ tier "inspiration." Then again, if it's introduced as "Rhodesia-inspired" I'm not sure I'd believe it isn't.

>>49522517

No, it failed because whites were a tiny minority that lost all sympathy because of a war of terror and unjustifiable violence against the blacks.

>>49522553
There are non racist reasons to like Rhodesia (It was a counter insurgency utopia) but it's hard to talk about them without attracting the racists.

>>49522617
>counter-insurgency utopia

So, good place for security contractors and PMCs.

And literally no one else.

>>49522604
a bloo bloo bloo

read a book motherfucker

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Just look at today's Zimbabwe, tbqh famalabongbong.

That's a failed state.

>>49520204
And that could be a really good only war campaign.

>>49522604

Sympathy is entirely subjective and based on who you talk to, and when.

It's also a pretty shitty metric to begin with, people were sympathetic for the French terror attacks yet literally nothing changed because of them.

>>49522474
Just sage the thread.

It's basically a beacon for /pol/acks.

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>>49522474
>>49522517
>>49522553
>>49522604
>>49522617
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>>49522897
Tell me about Rhodesia, /tg/, i'm curious now. I'd ask /pol/ or /his/ but...well...you know.

>>49523682
/k/ could talk for days about Rhodesia.

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>>49523682
all summed up in one little image.

>>49523682
Originally it was a british colony above South Africa. Rhodesia declared independence in the 70s, but Britain was pursuing a policy called NIBMAR, which pretty much said 'unless it's run by african blacks you can't have it'.

Essentially, the non pol, and non liberal view is that Rhodesia was conquered by british colonials during while british worked on empire, and then declared independence that was segregated and white-run and white-ruled. The rest of the world didn't like this and refused to recognize them.

After a bunch of civil wars and white people fleeing Rhodesia in droves the white-run government gave up teh ghost in the late 70s and turned it over to the full population, which promptly became zimbabwe and went to shit.

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>>49523682

Here you go, a good summary.

>>49523682
Ask /k/.

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>>49520204
Good taste in raifus.

Anyways, a Rhodie-themed 40k campaign sounds like a hell of a time. Would you be fighting commie-themed Chaos cultists?

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>>49520204
>Guardsmen never die
Except they do, faggot. They just don't surrender.

>>49524082

>white Rhodesian woman
>That figure

Doesn't take a guy into female knight x Orc doujins to know where this is going.

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>>49524301
Nope, there's just a few pictures of curvy Rhodie operators by some pixiv artist.

It's probably for the best.

>>49524372
>That last panel
Is she disappointed or just surprised? Was she being tsuntsun all along?

>>49524301
kek

>>49524518
Little bit of both.

That's the joke.

>>49524518
Yes

Bushmen of Serica?

>>49523682
The way I've been told it all happened was that Ian Smith or whatever his name was didn't wanna end apartheid and turn the power over to the black majority straight away like it had been done elsewere resulting is numerous failed states falling apart the second the white upperclass left and too almost all of the expert knowledge with them. His plan was to do it gradually to make sure the blacks were up to the task. The UK says that it has to happend RIGHT NOW or else, and pretty much everyone else takes the UKs stance, including the eastern bloc because they're all about that communist revolution, in the end even SA joins in. So the Rhodies dig in their heels and try to take on the whole world. Of course it doesn't last and in the end the rest of the world gets what it wants. A corrupt dictator who has no problem with systematic genocide and torture gets to run the whole country into the ground and what was the bread basked out Africa is struggling with famine.

Anyway, that's the version I've been fed. Cecil Rhodes was still a dumb greedy cunt.

>>49523712
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>>49524012
Ok I did some of my own research and while these images more or less add up they're also a simplification of things. To say Ian Smith was a little racist was an understatement. While the separatists had their hearts in the right place it was tied up into the old system of segregation which had a lot of people pissed. Sins of the father coming back to plague innocent people of today. Rhodesia was an unfortunate collateral to that problem which had plagued the rest of Africa, as, had segregation and domination not been previous policy then the rest of Africa wouldn't have been full of militarized white hating lunatics, nor would colonial regime have had the reputation it did.

Rhodesia did get fucked over, by everyone, but the leaders of the initial separatist government were protecting their own privileged interests as much as anything else.

>>49524913
The UK took this stance because, like colonialism, it was inevitable it would end and it would be better for all involved if it was somewhat amicable rather than a racial civil war which left everyone bitter. The white minorities couldn't take on the entire African continent.

>>49525004
They definitely could. How do you think they conquered those territories to begin with?

Imagine a world where Africa was occupied by a white settler /majority/. Tell me that's not obviously better than the world today.

>>49525004
Like I said, it was the version I had been fed.

From the research I've done myself a good while back, mostly related to the creation of Rhodesia, it seems like it could have been avoided if Cecil Rhodes hadn't been a greedy cunt, supporting the pro apartheid guys in South Africa to gain support for his hostile takeover of other colonial mining territories and also starting the Boer wars pretty much single handedly.

>>49525034
Ha, no they couldn't.

I stopped reading after that.

>>49525068
>I stopped reading after that.
No you didn't, you stupid fuck. Why even say such a pretentious thing?

>>49525080
Fine I did read it but I couldn't be arsed to reply.

Yes it probably would be better, but that's all pie in the sky because it was not a workable solution. You have to work with the hand you're dealt.

>>49525113
It's only an unworkable solution if you're too much of a moral coward to accept the right calls.

>>49525129
I had a friend from Zimbabwe and he buried plenty of his mates before moving to the UK.

Suffice to say he didn't like blacks, but even he knew sometimes you have to put the gun down.

>>49525004
>The white minorities couldn't take on the entire African continent.

Not like they'd have too. Pan-Africanism is a pipe dream, and a scenario involving a unified black Africa against whites is insanely unlikely. Not like the Rhodesian military was entirely white either, or look an modern day Namibia, where a good chunk of the black population would prefer keeping whites around because they have seen what kind of shitholes other countries turned into.

Not advocating for apartheid, but a western backed white population would keep Africa in line if they really wanted to.

>>49525004
>it would be better for all involved if it was somewhat amicable rather than a racial civil war which left everyone bitter.

And I'm sure everything is amicable and happy in South Africa?

>>49525034
They kind of did for a decade at least.

>>49525129
>moral coward

Terry Goodkind shouldn't you be writing more terrible literature?

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>>49525004
>The white minorities couldn't take on the entire African continent.

Now the white minorities just have to deal with Africans in Europe, last I checked Sweden was doing a really good job at that.

>>49525163
This, this is the problem. 'Africa' is not a country, it's a continent. An extremely divided one, ethnically and religiously. Calling someone African is the same as calling them "European". What part of Europe motherfucker?

>>49525004
They could have and should have. Shit was fucked up and needed to end, but by bowing out and pretty much dropping the responsibility we got the inhospitable shithole called "Africa" today. You don't dump all rights and responsibilities on kids, education and socialization exist for a reason.
I'm not convinced that going slower could have produced a worse outcome than what actually happened.

>>49525250

Post-mass media white people have the attention span of a gnat and no sense of patience, as they're constantly bombarded by images of "native suffering" on a daily basis when the plans call for change happening over decades.

When you see a sad pair of big black eyes staring at you on the TV screen and say something needs to be done NOW, you demand something gets done NOW.

>>49524012
>American racial issues being worse than Rhodesian racial issues

lol fukkin wut

>>49525910

Probably true in the 1960s. Probably true even now desu since dindus actively try to make it an issue.

>>49525286
>When you see a sad pair of big black eyes staring at you on the TV screen and say something needs to be done NOW, you demand something gets done NOW.

No, I think most people ignore it and are annoyed that their sportsball is being interrupted for this bullshit.

Majority opinions in pretty much every country oppose foreign aid and "humanitarian intervention". The reason Bill did nothing about Rwanda is because he correctly assessed the public's attitude towards the issue.

>>49525910
In the 60s? Definitely.

>>49524218
>Taking the title literally

>They just don't surrender.
Except they do, faggot.

>>49520204
Yes. Horse mounted light infantry with lasguns set to maximum, I would play the hell out of that.

>>49527264
Call it the Saive-pattern, after the chief designer of the FAL.

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>>49520204
>>49524082
>>49524218
>Men and boys fought, killed, and died in the tens of thousands so autistic manchildren could photoshop anime girls over them
What a world we live in

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>>49529129
Shit like pic related is literally 'photoshopping Rainbow Dash into a holocaust photo was the only way I could feel remorse for the victims' tier

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How does this sound?

Selous Scouts

Regiment Classification
>Imperial Guard Regiment

Recruitment Criteria
>All Male (or at least mostly male)

Nature of Recruitment
>Elite Tithe

Home World
>Death World

Home World Predominant Terrain
>Jungle


Regiment Core Units
>Light Infantry

Specialization
>Counter(insurgency)

Loyalty Rating
>Adherent

Special Equipment
>Specialized lasgun pattern

Regiment Creed
>For the Homeworld

Regiment Friends
>Adeptus Mechanicus

Regiment Enemies
>Daemon Prince of Tzeentch

>>49524082
Probably Tau

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>>49529159
As if Western big businesses are exempt from turning tragedy into something that downplays/demeans it

>>49529228
Wouldn't it be more accurate if they were fighting Tau proxy empires?

>>49529252
I don't know what you're talking about m8, BF1 is pretty fun.

>>49529159
I need that animu girl. Anyone have the pic she's from?

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>>49529626
Here you go

>>49529870
Thanks, mate.

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>>49527153
>Except they do, faggot.
No they don't. Do you even know what the mot de Cambronne means? They LITERALLY never surrendered. Not even once. And yet Americans will remember them as surrender monkeys.

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>>49529267
That's his point: BF1 makes the worst slaughters of WW1 look like a fucking fun playhouse (and let's not forget that they entirely forgot about the meatgrinder known as Verdun or the horrors of the Eastern Front). They downplay it, dishonor the memories of the dead by depicting it as a fun shooty game.

You can either accept this or criticize this, but you can't give this a free pass and criticize cute anime girls at the same time. Personally, because I'm not a butthurt hypocrite, I accept there is such a thing as artistic license. Cute anime girls were never supposed to be an accurate representation of historical events or people, they're merely loosely based on them. In that regards BF1, with its pretenses of realism, is actually more insulting. But still not so insulting that it hurts my sensitive little butthole.

Nah, that'd be the French commemoration "ceremony" where a bunch of kids ran over the graves of dead soldiers.

tl;dr: Lrn2consistency

>>49529090
You're a terrible, worthless sack of shit, but no matter how true this is, or how much I despise you, you will like the things you like and dislike the things you dislike.

Have some fucking sense and recognize that other people, with vastly superior tastes, also have things they enjoy, and that your anger is utterly wasted in a pathetic and humiliating fashion.

>>49520204
>Guardsmen don't die.
>They just go to the Warp to regroup.

>>49532166
Literally /tg/ the post.

Somebody cap it!

>>49520204

Closest we came was playing a not-Boer mounted light infantry regiment. Scouring the infinite plains of some ork infested argi-word with nothing but out lasguns, our binoculars and our space-horses.

oh, and the serfs that managed the fresh space-horses, cooked dinner and managed our equipment, but they don't count.

Make the enemy genestealer cults.

>>49525910
Read some books

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>>49531736
>Graves of dead soldiers
Last time I checked soldiers did not sleep in coffins underground
>you dont make Graves for the living

>>49531686
More than one kind of guardsmen, anon.

>>49531686
Cambronne later invalidated the " LA GARDE MEURT MAIS NE SE REND PAS ", and the mot de Cambronne, because he surrendered, and that they didn't die.


>merde indeed