Warcraft Lore and RPG Discussion

So this is basically a thread for people who are literally too retarded to click on the little link to /vg/ up on the top of the screen? That's sad.

>>49508882

/vg/ just talks about the actual game, in these threads we talk about the setting like a bunch of nerds.

So, how about that statue of the pregnant tauren lady in egyptian-like clothes in kharazhan's crypts, eh? What's up with that?

How do you reckon ironforge gryphon riders fight?

Stormhammers are supposed to be kinda iconic for the wildhammers, so I assume the ironforge dwarves would fight in some other way from a gryphon.

Mountain Kings have stormbolts though so maybe it wouldn't be that different.

>>49508927
Maybe an ancient desert tauren offshoot that was conquered by the cat-taur people?

>>49507294

I think the final boss over every expansion since MoP has been a preview of the next expansion.

Last patch/raid/boss of Pandaria: Orcs. Leads to Warlords of Draenor, where we mainly fight orcs. Until the last patch/raid/boss of WoD: Demons. Leads to Legion, where we mainly fight demons. So if Legion's last patch will be about Old Gods, next expansion will be about old gods?

It's a fucking stupid model, though, because it means that every expansion is about something the players are already sick of from grinding out the end of the last expansion. Probably half the reason they did it is so they can use the assets they've already started developing early, and save time/money.

>>49509275
I wouldn't mind if it means we get more old minions.

They seem pretty light on those at times.

Are undead supposed to be resistant to old god corruption, or are DKs just so used to getting weird urges and voices in their heads that they ignore them?

>>49509275
Well, we are already facing Old Gods minions in Emerald Nightmare, goals of Xavius just happen to align with those of Legion.

>>49509812
What the fuck are xavius objectives?

>>49509868
>Corrupt the Emerald Dream forever
>kill Malfurion
>???
>Profit

>>49509423
DKs are already getting brain-fucked by the LK/Their own edge (all of them, not DK only mind you here) so they don't care for the whispers, old gods don't lose their time with them as it is useless because either they cannot understand (ghouls) or because they're already brainfucked beyond all repair (Forsaken, DK).

As for fleshy curses; they're dead and they can't affect that. That's why they made the mechanical entities fleshy, UD go the other way, they're rotting.

Might be, since they're legion-crafted (scourge) that they've made immune from the get go.

>>49509881
yep.
Good ol' xavius.

>>49509906
On the other hand, there's plenty of hints that Yogg was playing plenty of influence into the Scourge.

>>49509310
Vanilla had C'thun.
Burning Crusade had nothing.
Wrath of the Lich King had Yogg Saron and the corruption of the Titanforged.
Cataclysm was pretty much nothing but servants of the Old Gods causing chaos, with a dragon coat of paint.
Mists of Pandaria had the Sha as the primary, main threat, although a lot of focus was also given to Garrosh and the Lightning King.
Warlords of Draenor had nothing.

In the grand scheme of things, we've probably faced the Old Gods and their minions with far greater frequency than we've faced the Burning Legion.

>>49510150
So when we're on Draenor we don't fight Old Gods, but when we're on Azeroth we do fight old gods.

>>49510150
I meant like new creatures other than the squidmen, lobster guys and assorted varieties of cultists.

>>49510076
Undead can't be influenced by the Old Gods. The Scourge made use of Saronite because Yoggy couldn't actually do anything to them. It's why they had one of his Faceless chained up in a mine. Even the Twilight Hammer had very, very few Forsaken compared to pretty much every other race, which is probably more from those Forsaken attempting to stave off dying more than anything else.

>>49510259
Correct. Draenor doesn't have a world soul to corrupt like Azeroth does so while an Old God COULD be there it was nowhere near as valuable a target.

>>49510076
Influence!=Out right domination. It felt more like he was peeking than actually touching things.

And none of the scourge plans really do align with his other than kill all life in azeroth. But again, the scourge doesn't like the OGs see WC3.

corruption is the thinking man's fetish

>>49511029
>Correct. Draenor doesn't have a world soul to corrupt like Azeroth does so while an Old God COULD be there it was nowhere near as valuable a target.
I read that the void lords basically flung the old gods into the universe in the hopes of landing on worlds with world souls, so they must've been kinda lucky with landing some on azeroth.

I wonder what would happen to old gods that don't land on worlds with world souls.
If they could eventually project themselves towards another world, or open up portals.

>>49509181
I'm pretty sure that all gryphon riders are Wildhammers regardless of whose colours they bear. Unless they started training Ironforge dwarves after WC3, they're all mercenaries who rent themselves out to factions they trust

>>49510150
BC had that Old God the arakkoa in Shadowmoon Valley were summoning

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>>49511107

>>49511107
Get a job Metzen

>>49511123
>I'm pretty sure that all gryphon riders are Wildhammers regardless of whose colours they bear. Unless they started training Ironforge dwarves after WC3, they're all mercenaries who rent themselves out to factions they trust
I was more considering an what if scenario where ironforge didn't have access to wildhammer gryphon riders.
They have gryphons, so figured they should be using them in some war capacity.
Less of a need due to flying machines though.

>>49511107
Go enjoy your retirement and stop shitposting on 4chan. Don't you have kids to raise? Go check if they're not drinking antifreeze or something.

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>>49511224
>>49511123

Apparently there ironforge gryphon riders added in cata.

They have attacks that require hunter weapons, goggles.
I guess they're basically riflemen on top of griffins then.

Looks like they added human gryphon riders from stormwind as well.
And that they defended westfall against the legion, and accompanied the fleet towards the broken isles.

So a fairly recent development it seems.

>>49511353
They just added flying guards to cities once players were able to fly around them, too.

Runes

>>49511307
He's probably busy watching Overwatch porn

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Where is he?

>>49511224
I could see ironforge gryphon riders being equipped with explosives and used for bombing runs. Alternatively, firearms or great axes.

>>49515208
Working hard to save his king

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>>49513212
[sp]Memes[/sp]

>>49515303
His king is safe.
Hand over the naxxramas.

>>49515381
>ywn bang a bitch so hard her eyes go green

>>49516471
>not playing demon hunter
>not having fel runic tattoos running sexily along your cock shaft

>>49515981
>not the one true king
>king

Where's Illidan and his eye of sargeras when you need him?

>>49515981
Someone needs to tell Bolvar that no king rules forever.

>>49515981
MR THUZAD
I'M EBON BLADE
WE'RE GONNA NEED YOU TO HAND OVER NAXXRAMAS FOR THE GENERAL SAFETY OF AZEROTH

>>49517469
>The Ebon Blade takes Naxxramas
>Flies it over to the Broken Isles
>Drops it on the Tomb of Sargeras

>>49517519
EBON BLADE
FUCK YEAH
COMING IN TO SAVE
THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY YEAH

>>49517519
>Azeroth rams Exodar, every scourge necropolis + Acherus,Fel Hammer and Dalaran into the Tomb Of Sargeras

This could absolutely work.

>>49517532
>>49517519
This sound like a mana bomb thing.

I like it.

>>49517532
>Khadgar calls in a favor from his buddy A'Dal
>fuck it, drop Tempest Keep on em too

>>49517549
We load the mall with mana bombs and a metric fuckton of regular bombs.

And angry fire elementals for good measure.

Why aren't there any Legion Ethereals? Dont they both hate the Void?

Maybe they have shit pay

>>49517615
I mean,they hate Dimensius, who's dead.

They're not gonna dedicate their entire racial existence to fighting Void Lords.

>>49517615
Jews need better weapons before they fight?

>>49517549
Go away Kael'thas, you're dead.

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>>49513212
did somebody say runes?

>>49517615
there's very little opportunity for profit in serving the Legion. Why do you think there are no goblins there?

>>49515381
S-Source senpai?

>>49518698
>>49515381
Looks like Shia. But I'm not the poster.

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What does /tg/ think about this?

>>49518878
So avatar of sargeras as Illidan confirmed for final boss?

>>49518878
>Tichondrius
YYYYEEEEESSSS

>>49518878
I'm not getting anything like that. I've got Gul'Dan running to the eye of Aman'Thul and begging for extra power.

>>49518945
Check the difficulty, it's most likely a Mythic-only phase, just like Emperor Mar'gok (Cho'gall Surprise) and Archimonde (Nether portion of the fight) had in WoD.

Also,
>A dark, outwordly presence was filling Illidan's mortal shell
I'll bet it's either what >>49518890 said, or a Void Lord attempting to sneak out of the Void/Shadowlands.

Also, I'd love it if Illidan never actually returns, and Xe'ra was just an avatar of Kil'jaeden fucking with us and spying on our efforts.

>>49519193
Or the boy of Light and Shadow turns out to be Anduin he fits that description much better

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What did he mean by this

>>49519214
Fuck, even Sylvanas fits the description better.

>>49519242
But it mentions its a boy so unless Sylvanas grew a dick im pretty sure that rules her out

>>49519242
t. Kosak

>>49519254
Where does it say "boy?" I remember the "child of light and shadow."

>>49519255
>Kosak memes
Would you prefer Illidan, who makes even less sense?

>>49519236
>Xal'atath
Of all the places to see an Eternal Darkness reference

>>49519300
Ikr? It keeps throwing me off.

>>49519266
Ok its the "I seek the child of light and shadow, the boy destined to end the age of demons."

>>49519331
Gaaaaay. This entire subplot is gaaaaaaay.

>>49519193
>just like Emperor Mar'gok (Cho'gall Surprise)
I like how the achievements for that fight spoil the fact that Cho'gall comes in
>slay Imperator Mar'gok in Highmaul
>complete the Imperator Mar'gok encounter in Highmaul on mythic difficulty

>>49519193
Difficulty was the first thing I checked, no otherworldy presence at all.

I desperately hope that Xe'ra is actually Kil'Jaeden, or just a dreadlord.

>>49519484
>I desperately hope that Xe'ra is actually Kil'Jaeden, or just a dreadlord.
Xe'ra is definitely N'zoth

>>49519484
This actually makes sense because the legion didn't lift a finger to get light's heart. They went full force at Exodar. Containing a Na'aru that could have told us that it was a fake.

>>49520067
Oh man that'd be great actually, hadn't even thought of it.

>>49520086
They both work, can't wait for none of them to be true.

>>49520067
>>49520114

>you'll never play a fully corrupted by N'Zoth character.
>you'll never have a sweet tentacle covered and multiples eyes skin present over your character skin
>you'll never be N'Zoth champion, tasked with breaking the leaders of Azeroth and corrupting them to serve the Old Gods
>no creepy voice in your head and weird UI modification to reflect this

Why even live ?

>>49520146
If you stay in void form long enough as a shadow priest you get tentacles growing on your body. You also hear voices and shiet from your dagger.
It's as close as you are going to get.

>>49518878
Ey wasn't that Old God-related boss spouting all sorts of shot about how the Pillars are a key and the 'Raven' would turn it?

>>49520114
>Oh man that'd be great actually, hadn't even thought of it.
Naaru turn into void beings on death
we shoved the rock that corruted Ysera into Xe'ra's brain
Xe'ra is a fucking Deviantart writer who's rewriting Illidan into a terrible Mary Sue

she's either N'zoth or a void creature intervening on his behalf


>>49520170
the best part is that being in void form makes you speak in gibberish. All those fucked up DBM callouts

>>49520205
>five keys to open the path Five torches to light our way
>the lord of ravens will turn the key

>>49520170
>>49520223
Noice

Time to level up a shadow Priest

>>49518878
"The consequences of Khadgar's actions will incite deadly consequences"
10/10 writing

>>49520652
Gul'dan has been backtraced, and Khadgar is calling the cyber police
consequences will never be the same

>>49508882
Yes.

So if Arthas lost his soul before he became a death knight, then why is he being tortured in double hell?

also wasn't there stuff about his soul trying to hold back the scourge and make dumb ass plans to lose?

so why the fuck does sylvanas who does evil shit on the regular when she has a soul get redeemed if arthas who lost his soul before doing evil shit doesn't?

Also, why in the hell does everyone still blame someone who was literally not in control of his actions?

"So there are people literally mind controlling you and later literally stole your sole, leaving you just a rotting body for them to use their necromancy on, but its still all your fault."

And after all that fiasco, people still think orcs are cool and not total irredamable shits.

>>49520223
>FAZ-KA SHEJ'ASH Y'ITAQ OS'SYIEN LABUJ [Debuff that causes a shitton of raid wide damage when dispelled] OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WHITE DRAENEI AT
>What's that, Jim? Mass dispell [Debuff that causes a shitton of raid wide damage when dispelled]? Sure thing, buddy!
>F'SHAAG YT-SAAJ UNGOLATH Y'SHO-
>[Raid wiping intensifies]
>[Post-wipe recovery begins]
>Well, who the fuck thought it was a good idea to mass dispell [You know what]?
>Jim told me to, boss
>Oh, did he?
>Jim was expelled from the group

>>49521171
Arthas appologist fanboys are the worst.

>>49521184
As if shadowpriests are even allowed to raid with their current DPS.

>>49521171
A few possible explanations exist.
Option 1) Saronite captured the lost souls
Option 2) Sylvanus was halucinating nonsense because of the Saronite
Option 3) The Val'kyr created an illusion to weaken Sylvanus so she'd take them in and they could potentially control her.
Option 4) Arthas was being punished at least temporarily for the shit he did BEFORE turning.

>>49521171
Arthas, similar to other intelligent Scourge generals, isn't 100% mind controlled like a zombie. Getting his soul taken means he's under LK's influence, aka a voice in his head telling him to be evil against his better judgement. All the nasty shit he did: not healing Muradin, kill his dad, destroy his kingdom, elf genocide, were all suggested to him by the LK, but it's him making the decision to listen to these shitty ideas.

His story basically changed from him wanting power to protect his people to wanting power because he wants to be best king. It's never explained, but I think during the months of wandering in Northrend after killing Mal'ganis, Nerzul kinda meme'd him to the point where he thinks ruling over mindless undead subjects > living assholes that might disagree with you. That pretty much kickstarted his betrayal and him getting more and more evil to convince himself he's doing the right thing.

>>49521171
Double hell isn't real,it's just the Val'kyr fucking with Sylvannas so she accepts their deal.

>>49522063
Double hell isn't real? Wait, does this mean double heaven isn't real either??? DAMNIT.

DED THREAD
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Come on guys, dont give up on warcraft!

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Would he approve of the Vyrkul?

>>49523260
>Implying Blizzard didn't give up after Cataclysm

>>49523260
>don't give up on Warcraft

You are years late, m8.

Few weeks ago, I wrote about Thori'belore/The Sunfury, belf spaceship/flying fortress players built in my Warcraft D&D game, and how they took it to Nothrend to destroy random Scourge shit left there (like Naxxramas and Icecrown Citadel) as a test run. Do you want to hear how that turned out, /tg/?

>>49525512
Destroying Icecrown Citadel as a test run for anything sounds impressive. Go on Anon.

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>>49521171
He was too awesome for Warcraft and the game started sinking after his demise.
Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

Arthas 2016
Make Azeroth Great Again

>>49519236
>Old Gods indirectly creating the mortal races through the Curse of Flesh
>N'Zoth is locked away deep in the ocean
>Anduin?
>Unsure. Could be various (Sylvanas, Jaina, any other female character who has lost something and is fueled now by REVENGE).
>Self-Evident
>Khagdar and what he's going to do here >>49518878
>Magni Bronzebeard becoming a direct servant of Azeroth (the world-soul/future titan)
>Unknown, though possibly the Pillars of Creation. Apparently will help free N'Zoth?

How do Draenei shaman and Death knights work anyway?

>>49525715
>Unsure. Could be various (Sylvanas, Jaina, any other female character who has lost something and is fueled now by REVENGE).

It's definitely Jaina. Think of what crater she might be pissed off about.

>>49525715
>>Unsure. Could be various (Sylvanas, Jaina, any other female character who has lost something and is fueled now by REVENGE).
>>49525791
The common interpretations are either Jaina or Azeroth herself, ergo Magni is their pawn if they are impersonating Azeroth.

>>49525715
Il'gynoth also says:

>"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming."

Sylvanas, likely.

>"From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength."

Thrall.

>"Its surface blazes light, masking shadow below."

I'm guessing that Naaru we conveniently save.

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>>49525791
Probably it then.

>>49525810
>or Azeroth herself
That would be an amazing twist.

>>49525550
All right then. Naxxramas was the first target. When they got there, it was long abandoned and damaged from previous battles, so it went down in one shot from their main weapon (reverse engineered Apexis laser modified and upgraded with the help of Mimiron's copy and powered by a miniature Sunwell, they called it the Solar Lance).

They decided to continue to Icecrown, to try that thing on a tougher target before they take it to a real fight with Legion. While the players know OOC about the stuff that happened in the game, the characters are unaware about a lot of things, like the new Lich King. So they expected to find Icecrown Citadel empty, maybe with some uncontrolled undead leftovers milling about, in other words, an easy target.

What they found was the Citadel itself, numerous and obviously well-equiped and organised army of undead, and two active necropoli (finished Malykriss and Acherus). That was a problem: as far as the characters knew, Lich King was destroyed years ago, most of the Scourge with him, and surviving remnants outside Northrend were disorganised and infighting. If the Lich King was still alive, or there was another power in control of the Scourge, the Legion isn't the only threat Azeroth faces, and nobody but them knows about this danger hidden on the frozen continent. But they were reasonably sure of their overwhelming firepower, so they decided to negotiate first (as Acherus was supposed to be neutral).

There they found the first problem with their flying fortress: it lacks any good means to communicate with outside world. They've got few goblin radios, and some magic communications, but neither of those works without reciever on the other side. And none of them (well, almost none) was willing to go outside and talk to the huge undead army personally. So they did what any proper Blood Elf would do (at least according to party paladin) if they found the Lich King may still be alive: They shot first.

>>49525828
Sylvanas has already died three times
Arthas killed her, She comiteed suicide after his death, Shotgun to the back of the head

>>49525979
Malykriss took a direct hit from the Solar Lance, yet survived, though with heavy damage. The weapon take some time to recharge, and the asorted undead immediately responded to the attack and attacked. The battle was in players favor: undead on the ground couldn't reach the flying fortress, and could easily be destroyed from the air, and while gargoyles are dangerous to ground forces, gryphon/dragonhawk/wyvern riders and flying machines, they are much less effective against heavily armored flying castle bristling with enough dakka to impress an ork. Only danger were the two necropoli, and one of them was already damaged. Or so they thought.

As expected, gargoyles stood no chance against cannons, rockets, smaller solar lasers and arcane turrets serving as point defenses and majority of weapons. Then, Acherus opened fire... and the players were shown another Sunfury's weakness: While the Sunfury itself is heavily warded against damage, the same isn't true about the crew. Massive blast of shadow energy hit the ship, killing pretty much everyone in the affected section and turning them into undead. Now, normal zombies, skeletons or ghouls would be no match for 3 level 16 characters, remaining crewmembers and various golems aboard, so I've decided to have them keep their levels (or rather, NPC stats, 5e). Undead mages and (blood) knights were a different problem altogether. To make the things worse, affected section lost its gunners, thus making the Sunfury susceptible from gargoyle attack from at least one direction. It could be worse if they went with the original design, the Sunfury was supposed to be round, as most belf buildings, but I've advised the players (through a goblin NPC) to go with Reneissance star fort-like shape. In the end, the ship was shaped like eight-point star, so the next two prongs could cover the hit part... still, the defense wasn't perfect, and the undead noticed it and focused their attack there.

>>49526377
Players tried to turn the Sunfury around to keep the damaged part away from the necropoli, thus seeing another weakness of their ship: it's horribly clumsy. Necropolis isn't the fastest or most maneuverable flying thing ever, but even then, Acherus could run circles around the larger fortress.

Battle continued for some time. Players were busy with the undead aboard, while the Solar Lance slowly charged for another shot, battle outside was pretty much just a cutscene. Acherus apparently couldn't use their necromantic weapon too often either. The players could charge their weapon faster, but I warned them that it could damage or destroy it, as it hadn't time to cool down. They decided to wait, but use it immediately if Acherus hit them with another blast.

Even with the loses they took, it was pretty clear they could win this fight. That's when the things got much more interesting.

3 Legion battleships ported in. Their goal was similar to the players', destroying the Lich King before he could be a threat to their plans. They were surprised to find themselves in the middle of battle, and the Sunfury was something new, but their enemies were busy with each other, so they attacked anyway.

The Sunfury was protected against fel fire weapons of the battleships, and it had wards preventing the demons from just teleporting aboard (unlike Malykriss and Acherus, which got their portion of fun). The undead immediately ceased their attacks against Sunfury and focused on demons. Players had a short tactical conferrence and decided that the demons are greated threat, and too changed their targets from undead (besides those aboard the Sunfury). This time, they scrambled their complement goblin fighter planes.

Again, battle was mostly cutscene happening in background. While demons couldn't teleport their forces inside the Sunfury, they could get them on its surface, and the demons started to attack the hull to get inside.

>>49526260
counting only her deaths after she was raised, her next is her third.
no other female character has died more than once (Onxyia?) so it kinda has to get stretched around

>>49525725
>Shaman
Nobundo.
>DK's
Same as anyone else. Got killed, then rezzed for the Scourge.

>>49525725
>Draenei DK
Because fuck the lore, people want edgy GOATs

Seriously they're the most retarded thing ever, even worse than gnome/goblin DKs

>>49526868
PC DKs broke away from the Scourge at the start of Wrath. Draenei never once fought the Scourge before Wrath. It literally makes no sense.

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>>49527159
Not even during BC? You know, when a race that was all about THE LIGHT first got to a world where THE LIGHT is primarily used to fight the Scourge?

>>49525828
>>"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming."
>Sylvanas, likely.
I heard that we have to kill Elisande 3 times in the raid. That would imply it's Elisande.

>>49527239
you don't actually kill her, she reverses time when she's about to die

>>49527304
But do we bite the dust when she does it?

>>49526686
That led to a fun three-way battle between undead, demons and the players' crew of elves and golems (and the player characters themselves). Solar Lance charged and one-shoted one of Legion battleships. The other two ships gained an altitude to protect themselves from another attacks, as the weapon is on the underside of the Sunfury, intended to be used against ground targets and can't hit anything above the ship. Demons aboard Sunfury were finally defeated, one of the demon battleships was damaged by the combined attacks of undead, Acherus and smaller weapons from Sunfury and its fighters.

With Sunfury safe, players decided to go on the offensive and teleported aboard the remaining battleship. More battles with demons as they fought to disable the ship. They met bunch of death knights from Acherus who too attacked the ship (though they flew to it on skeletal gryphons and got inside through a hole in the hull instead of teleporting), resulting in tense negotiations to explain what the hell is going on with the Ebon Blade, about Bolvar and the undead army gathered to fight the Legion. They joined forces, though the two factions were wary of each other. Together, they managed to kill the demon commanding the battleship, and damage controls enough that it started to fail. With no other way out (the wizard used most of his spells in the battle), they had to run together with the DKs to escape on their mounts before the whole battleship exploded.

DK's dropped them back on the Sunfury (and they luckily weren't shot down by overeager gunners in the process). After that, it was easy to rise above the damaged and immobilised Legion ship and finish it with Solar Lance.

With demons defeated and the undead presence explained, the characters negotiated with the Ebon Blade some more, though not in person, one of the mage crewmembers created an illusion to talk with them from a distance, and the Death Knights used a voice amplification spell to shout back at them.

So you can keep a void lord from exploding from a Naruu by using a giant fel mech.

>>49527445
So, it ended up well. Both sides suffered loses and the players set a course to Quel'thalas for repairs and to replace dead crewmembers. They got relatively intact Fel Reaver (as in, it's in one piece, though it's got a lot more holes than the original designers intended). I wonder what they'll do with it, they got access to Legion stuff while they were building the Sunfury, but wisely decided to not mess with it. They also discovered few weaknesses of their ship: 1. lack of good communication with the outside, 2. wards don't protect the crew (this will be relevant when they encounter more insidious demons like Kil'Jaeden), 3. due to massive size, their ship is slow and extremely clumsy, meaning that 4. having Solar Lance able to hit only targets below the Sunfury could be a problem and 5. Legion will propably use the tactic of teleporting demons on the surface of the ship in the future, wards don't stop that.

There's not much that they could do about all that except 1., with Legion invasion in progress, they don't have time to upgrade their magic defenses, and they can't do anything about maneuverability or Solar Lance without major redesign of the whole ship.

It's been a learning experience for me too: I really should stat that thing out, as this sort of battles will be more common in the future, and I can't fight them through the power of DM fiat alone. On that note, anyone knows about a good system for (space)ship battles? 5e D&D compatible ideally, to have it usable by my players, but anything would work, I have no problem with learning new systems and I suspect I'll do the mechanical part on my own behind the scenes, while players will only care about their actions and commanding the whole thing without the boring details.

>>49526868
>>49527159

Why should being a Draenei prevent you from being risen like everyone else?

>>49526845
>Onyxia
Ahaha

[Spoiler]I mean seriously, how fucking funny would this be?[/spoiler]

Surprised that Wrathion hasn't showed up in Dalaran going "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SOOOOOOO!"
He did want the Alliance to win and unite Azeroth to beat the Legion. Warlords was just a distraction.
You would think they guy who's trying to fill out his hidden agenda to save Azeroth would give some words to Khadgar.

>>49528135
>tfw he originally apologized for WoD and confirmed that Garrosh didn't act according to plan
>the Iron Horde was supposed to join us in fighting the Legion

>but then they swapped him out for Ebyssian

>>49525628
He was a meme king that only rode on the bantz

>>49508882

>2016
>people are still bitching about this

>>49509181

Same as Wildhammer dwarves? Possibly guns instead of lolhammers.

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>>49521171
>people still think orcs are cool

You're goddamn right, faggot.

>>49525628
I can't.

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>>49525628
>arthas
>awesome

About as awesome as Anakin Skywalker.

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>>49529859
He was cobra commander lite. So cringy.

>rezed and redeemed Arthas when

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>>49530379
No.

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>>49530379

Never. Arthas was at his best when the lines between him and Ner'zhul were blurred. So, really, the only time he was cool was the very end of WC3: TFT.

The Lich King is only interesting when he's a distant mastermind manipulating mortals, demons, and undead, like chess pieces to carry out his will from half-way across the world.

Arthas becoming the Lich King was a mistake.

>>49530401
Blizzard is running out of ideas. I mean they rezed fan favorite villain and they used an alternate timeline so they can have best orc be expansion villain.

Its going to happen. It's only a matter of time.

>>49530500
I'm still waiting for them to replace all of our dead lore characters with their alternate reality counterparts.

You are in charge of designing an entirely new continent found to the south of Kalimdor and Pandaria.

What do you decide to do with it? Both story and zone-wise.

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>>49530500
>Blizzard is running out of ideas.

No they aren't Metzen already retired. Its all about Kosak's waifu now.

>>49528209
Swapping him out for Ebyssian was the correct choice.

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>>49527229
>Deathrattle:equip ashbringer
>Tirion gives you the ashbrigner as he dies

>>49529859
still head and shoulders above every one else.
especially Illidan 'WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?" stormrage.

>>49527229
There were no story development with the Scourge during BC. Why would the draenei, one of the least populous race of warcraft, fight a war half way across the world, getting 0 credit and accomplish nothing when they've got the Legion to deal with.

The only interaction between any draenei and pre Wrath Scourge is PC leveling in the plaguelands. But your PC cant die.

Also, DK arent zombies, only the best stocks gets to be risen as DK, making it even less likely for that 1 or 2 lost draenei explorers to become the thousands of ded GOATs we see today.

>>49531701
Only reason I can really see if the Draenei, being a race very in tune with the light, was attracted to the Argent Dawn's ideals and character and a lot of them volunteered to join and do missions and so on for them.

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>>49517519
>Drops it on the Tomb of Sargeras
With no survivors

>>49518878
I think that you should play the game at a higher resolution.

>>49530569
>digits

she looks better blu

>>49530379
As much as my inner fanboy wants this, I am aware that it's more likely than not to be terrible. However, it would be an interesting twist and irony if Arthas were to go and try to reason with Jaina after she goes full Vengeance mode.

>>49530981
D E E P L O R E

>>49532532
Ehh it would be awful, but I suspect it's coming, whether its cleansed and doing the duty he turned away from Paladin or full no redemption only taking as many as I can with me DK remains to be seen.

I enjoyed the undead campaigns in WC3 and out of everyone there he was easily the most interesting alongside Kel'Thurzard, but I doubt I'd enjoy either of those scenarios very much. Depends on subscriber numbers ultimately I suspect.

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>>49518878
>1024x576

>>49528897
Burning blade best clan.

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>>49532903
>bunch of literal weebs
>best clan

>>49527591
Anon please tell me how to get in on this. Is this game in person or online? Because if it's online I will send you nudes to get into the campaign

>>49531701
>>49531725
draenei did join the Argent Dawn

just finished the second round of Illidan quests
Xe'ra is legit fucking retarded
she isn't even a demon or an Old God or something, she's just fucked

>>49533971
>second round of Illidan quests
Wait, what in the name of Bolvar's frozen crotch is this bullshit? Weren't the first three enough?

>>49534180
when you hit 5 levels of artifact knowledge you get new quests. One to see Sargeras burn his eyes out, and another to 'experience true betrayal" aka play Illidan in BT and fight a cheating raid with way too many soulstones and brezes, then get merked by Maiev

>>49534270
Ok, I'll admit the second one sounds like it coul be fun if properly executed. But, having done the first part, it'll probably be a bucketload of angsty teenager-sounding whining.

>I wish I was at Azshara's Palace being a pussyboi
>Those adventurers are too loud and are tracking fel-tainted dirt into my pleasure den
>>That feel when Azzinoth reformed in the nether and is asking for his stuff back
>Gul'dan's skull won't stop making fun of my horns
>>tfw no qt Priestess of Elune gf
>OH GOD WHY AM I BETRAYED MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE
>My feet hurt

>>49534375
It's pretty fun. You get to use the same abilites Illidan does in the actual bossfight, and the "players" are from guilds named after actual famous guilds (like Seriously Casual instead of Casually serious). Some of them are NPCs that have appeared in previous quests, or have had items named after them.

Although my inner autist would complain about one of the "players" having Illdan's warglaive (despite Illidna obviously being alive, and them even yelling "first!" when he dies, implying that was supposed to the world-, or at least server-first kill) and there being raid markers on the ground (we didn't have those in TBC, we had to either use smoke charges or Archmage Vargoth if we wanted to mark a location).

I actually managed to wipe the raid, but you can't beat Maiev, and once you die some of the raiders soulstone/battleres.

>>49534729
>I actually managed to wipe the raid
really? once I killed 20 of them, the other 5 would just continuously res themselves and each other

>>49534776
I killed most of them during phase 2, and when Maiev showed up, I managed to kill the last 5 just before getting killed by Maiev. Then they ressed, but there was a short time when all the "players" were dead.

>>49534865
I killed 22 of them in phase 1, but when phase 2 started 3 or 4 of them soulstoned or got brezed

>>49531668
>still head and shoulders above every one else.

Above Illidan, sure. But there are plenty of better and more interesting characters than Arthas. To insinuate Arthas is the best character in Warcraft is not only laughable, but really highlights your shit taste.

>>49534375
>sacrifices the lives of others for his own goals
>acts as though those sacrifices are his own

>>49535289
>better and interesting characters
name some.

>mfw finding Kul Tiras Marine in Aszuna

So they are still there at least. They haven't been forgotten to oblivion.

>>49535507
Sylvanas' breasts
Sylvanas' plucked and plump vagina
Sylvanas' perfectly symmetrical ass
Sylvanas' armpits
Sylvanas' DSL
Sylvanas' bedroom eyes

>>49535531
kosak, shouldn't you be working on the Nova Mission packs?

>>49535567
No, because Tosh is clearly better

>>49535583
>some nigga high on spaceMeth.
no.

I wanted Lili and Chen to be adventuring through WoD and Legion.

They are honestly the best thing about MoP.

>>49535591
>some supernigga high on spaceFarts, making him a double supernigger
Yes.
YES.
DAS IT MON
FEED ME AMON'S FARTS

>>49535583
nova's kerrigan without (most of) the bullshit

Tosh is my space nigga, but ghosts are more appealing than specters. It's just a shame they've never managed to properly capitalize on them.

>>49535294

They were, those who died could not have accomplished anything by perishing in battle or killing themselves. Illidan was the only one with enough power to make their life or death count.

>>49535627
Well, they did say that Nova Mission Pack isn't a one-off thing. From now on, that's how SCII's story continues. Personal stories and all that. Maybe we'll get a Tosh Mission Pack before he meets Raynor, or we get to play as one of his Spectres after the LotV Epilogue.

Valerian you crazy fuck you just gave Raynor Spectres and Ghosts the fuck were you thinking I like how you think

>>49535682
valerian is a bore

the end of heart of the swarm was a mistake, among many other mistakes

>>49535726
>valerian is a bore
No, he's an heir.
You get to use a (laser) bore in Wings of Liberty though.

But seriously, pretty sure he's supposed to be boring. Heirs are supposed to be boring.

>the end of heart of the swarm was a mistake
refresh my memory, what happens again? I was too preoccupied with what Ultralisk strain to pick

>>49535749
they killed mengsk off instead of kerrigan

>he's supposed to be boring
which is why I hate how much screentime he's been given

>>49535640
What about the part where he forcibly fed Mag'har orcs fel energy in order to make them half-demon murder monsters?

>>49535507

>implying that even if he named the top 5 most patrician characters in warcraft that your pleb taste would even allow you to objectively respond
>implying you wouldnt just shitpost angrily about how arthas and his bantz are so legendary and that's why he's the best
>implying you aren't just a dumb childish wrathbaby who played wc3 during cata and thought arthas was some pinnacle of blizzard storytelling

lol just lol

>>49536013
Those Orcs made their choices when they double dipped into the Kool-Aid. Illidan was doing them a kindness by giving them a purpose greater than themselves.

For real though. I'm fine if Blizzard want to say "Illidan was always looking at the big picture. He's always wanted to stick it to the big man in the sky". My issue comes when we're meant to accept and be totally okay with every action he made being 100% justifiable and being proven to be the right choice. We met Illidan as a dick, he did dickish things to save himself. Sure he might've now saved himself to keep fighting the good fight, but he was always a dick.

>>49531701
Naxxramas didn't left Plaguelands until Wrath.
Draenei did joined Argent Dawn.
Draenei are incapable of not going to such lands in attempt to purify it.

>>49536293
>all these projections.
found the sunwalker dezco fan.

>>49536318
Oh, I agree with you. I'm fine with Illidan being portrayed as a "by any means necessary" character. Just, yeah, not him being portrayed as some innocent martyr.

It's weird because, even going by current lore, both seem to be getting pushed. The Illidan novel showed him to be pretty morally questionable and egotistical, and the return of Altruis in the Demon Hunter story kinda supports the idea that although Illidan DOES have good intentions, he's not necessarily a good person.

But X'era is pushing Illidan to be the universe's biggest victim. Makes me wonder if there's something up with X'era, since she's really the only source of that perspective (aside from the sycophants in the Illidari).

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>>49530341
Is is bad that I want Gul'dan to Cobra Commander his way out of this expansion just so we can keep his smug mug around a while longer?

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>>49537069
Well, at this point, if X'era isn't captaining the SS Ruse Cruise and isn't really Kil'Jaeden in disguise, it will be extremely disappointing writing.
Because that's the only way Blizzard can really save itself now is by having all the Illidan dick slobbering that X'era is doing be just a lie to trick us into moving all the pieces into place.
Like those whispers that hint that the five Pillars of Creation are a trap. And the screen cap of "something dark" being inside Illidan that shows up in the Giul'dank fight.

>>49537196
Wonder if Gul'dan would pull a Xavius/Cho'gal and switch over to Team Old Gods if the Legion invasion gets repelled.

>>49537069
Yeah, the direction they're going with Illidan is just odd. Him going crazy and turning into a raidboss in TBC also came kind of out of nowhere, but he's always been an antihero. He might have a goal that's technically good (like "Fuck the Legion"), but he doesn't give a shit about collateral damage or the means needed to reach that goal. Turning him into some kind of half-demon Jesus who's the chosen messiah who saves use all and can do no wrong doesn't at all fit his characterization.

>>49527591
>On that note, anyone knows about a good system for (space)ship battles?
I think that Spelljammer had such stuff, though it was AD&D 2.0

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>>49530552
Zandalare is the only true answer.

>>49532924
>>49532903
Laughing skull best clan, they put the savage in savage nobel and don't pretend they are noble.

>>49537251
>>49537344
X'era being manipulated or being q manipulator is really the only thing I can figure because, like I said, she/it is really the only thing portraying Illidan as some kind of innocent messiah outside of the Illidari. Both the Illidan novel and some aspects of Legion agree with Illidan being someone with good intentions, but corrupt methods.

>>49537734
Even the Illidari are less portraying Illidan as some innocent messiah, than about him being right (ie. the shit he did was necessary to fight the Legion). Even then Kayn admits that Illidan was struggling to remain in control of his demonic energy and his mind was showing signs of slipping. Unlike Altruis, however, he believed Illidan could remain in control of himself.

Altruis seriously fucked up, though. It's entirely his fault that the guy you fight to get the Havoc artefact serves the Legion (he was actually that on belf DH Altruis sends you to kill in TBC, and after he died the Legion got hold of his soul and Kil'jaeden convinced him to switch sides by showing how he was betrayed by one of his own). Considering the guy is responsible of killing most of the demon hunters that managed to avoid getting captured by Maiev, as well as killing several more during the Legion's attack on the Vault of the Wardens, and also led the Legion's invasions on multiple worlds, that's a pretty bad thing on his resume.

>I seek the child of Light and Shadow
Sylvanas? Vol'jin said she'll save all
>the boy destined to end the age of demons.
ok, then Anduin
...
wait! no, they wouldn't! fuck! they totally would!
>The one called Illidan Stormrage.
NOOOOooOOoOoooooOOOOOooOooOOOooooooOOOO!!!

>>49538129
Malfurion please go.

>>49533156
Online through Roll20 and Teamspeak, but we play in our native language (czech), so you're propably out of luck. We all originally met on a private RP server (sadly it was closed few years ago, we started playing to stave off resulting RP withdrawal... RIP CzechDream/Soulwell), so the game includes some references and callbacks from those times, but that's a minor thing.

>Just did the new Illidan quests

Not as bad as the first set, but still quite cringeworthy. Also,
>Light's Heart referring to itself in the 3rd person
Kil'jaeden/Dreadlord confirmed due to a tongue slip?

Also, what's up with people pronouncing Tyrande's name as Tyrandah?

>>49539879
>Also, what's up with people pronouncing Tyrande's name as Tyrandah?
that's how it's pronounced

>>49539934
I was under the impression that it had always ended with a short "e" sound.

>>49539998
I don't think it ever has, maybe all the way back in Warcraft, but Malfurion wasn't even named Malfurion then

>>49508882
You haven't seen /wowg/, have you?

>>49539879
>>49539934
>>49539998
>>49540021
I could've sworn it was pronounced Tyran-day in Warcraft III.

>>49540080
It was.

>>49540136
>>49540080
No, it was pronounced the same in WC3.
https://youtu.be/IIz4lgxlLHw?t=9295

>>49535749
They killed mengsk and Kerrigan turned into a fiery super being that saved the universe. Also Raynor upped and fucked off with Nu-Kerrigan after the finale.

But don't worry guys we'll totally not be seeing the exact same thing in WoW.

>>49540643
Holy shit Starcraft 2 had the same stuff.
Evil person might be good.
Other worldly ally tells us the true bad guys and that evil person must live.
Redeeme them to fight big evil.

>>49525725
Draenei have lore immunity.

>>49537196
No, Gul'dan oozes class is a despicable way that the Lich King never could.

>>49532924
>>49532903
>"Burning Blade Clan"
>aka "Tipped Fedora Clan"

>>49540556
They don't end it with "day" there

>>49541039
That was my point. It's pronounced the same as in WoW.

>>49541077
ah

>>49525725
The power of horsecock.

There might be dwarves on other planets.

>>49541742
I don't get it. Is this a meme?

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>>49541798
>>49541742

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>>49541608

>>49541798
Titans went around and ordered planets.

Pacifying native elementals, seeded them with life.
So that titans(if there were any on the planets) to mature faster.


I was probably wrong though.
The stars aren't filled with dwarves.
Since by the time they got to azeroth they first made a failed attempt and made troggs, then they went on to dwarves.

If they ordered any planets after azeroth they could've added dwarves to them though.

All of these fuckers who complain about Illidan being bad are probably wowbabies who never played Wc3. Illidan and Kael being saturday morning cartoon villians is the dumbest shit Blizzard did in a while.

>>49542262
07 King Muradin

>>49542262
Good ol' snarky Arthas.

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>>49541608
no please do not lewd the space goats

we dead?

>>49545644
Damn. No wonder ISIS fucks goats

>>49542262
absolutely based.
>>49542000
here was the difference between arthas and illydan or Kael.

while the three were sympathetic characters, illidan was a whining person, kael thas was brooding while arthas was the bantzmeister.

>>49545674
I said please, motherfucker

>>49545757
No, I said PLEASE pass the goat.

So, assuming that the Horde and Alliance were to wrap up whatever threats to Azeroth there might be within a decade or so in setting and then made peace that wouldn't get broken because plot reasons, how long do you lot think it would take for the setting to achieve comparable tech/cities/quality of life to the irl western world?

>>49545907
Hell of a lot years, since people will stick to magic instead of fiddling with shit that makes people's heads hurt
>that's a lot of parts. what are you making?
>a coffee machine!
>why not just cast coffee spell? or, you know, get the coffee from the kitchen?

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>>49545827
purest of the pure, never been CORRUPTED.com

>>49545907
They already have gunpowder and steam engines, but because of magic, generally low and routinely decimated population and prevalence of a quasi-feudal system, it's difficult to implement technology that would exceed anything they can't do without mages or will need in absence of highly pooulated market economy.

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>>49542262
>LOOK BROTHERS, THE TRAITOR KING
>who, me?
>they are refering to me, death knight
based memethas

>>49545979
>"Because I'm a fucking gnome and that's what we do"
>"Because I'm a goblin and someone will pay for that. Also, it'll propably explode"

I think the canon answer is, like in D&D, player characters make magic seem more commonplace than it actually is in lore. Average village in Westfall doesn't have dozens of mages, warlocks and priests running around... and spellcasters in cities that do have that much of them have better things to do... unless that city is named Silvermoon or Dalaran.

>>49508772
Since WoW the Lore of Warcraft is actually ded.

>>49546017
That's what Saudi's king said before we penetrated it

>>49537734
The surface shines bright Hiding the shadows below

>>49508772
Hellscream did nothing wrong

>>49547634
Hellscream's Fist did nothing wrong
#gunshiplives matter

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>>49545644
Space goats are made for lewd.

thrall stinks

>>49547701
Of course he stinks. He's from Horde, everyone there stinks... except blood elves, and they propably stink of fel too.

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>>49547699
God, that is awful art.

>>49546017
Tell that to Sorcrethar and the sargerei.

>>49547680
That airship dindu nuffin why do people gotta kill fun bags

>>49547891
only bad thing about Legion is that I don't get to steal that fucker's sick robot anymore

>>49547842
The rest of that picture makes it completely worth it.

>>49547928
I seriously doubt it.

>>49547980
The focus is on the cropped out part

>>49547928
There is no rest of the picture.
That is the whole thing.

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>>49546017
I'm a warlock. I have the Eredar Twins in my harem. Your argument is invalid.

>>49547928
Ever heard of a butterface?

>>49548237
Technically they probably got demoned before draenei really were a thing. Draenei are the eredar who didn't think drinking Sargeras' coolaid was a good idea, so they didn't get corrupted.

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He did nothing wrong.

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>>49548677
In the old fluff, before Chronicles, the Eredar were already evil. They were one of the races, along with the Pit Lords, who were so cruel and sadistic that they were part of what pushed ol' Sargeras over the edge into insanity.
Still, it seems that Eredar were/are blue naturally, but fel magic creates a rainbow of colors(including other shades of blue) as they get corrupted.

So who's ready for khadgar to release the old gods using the pillars?

Here's my prediction:
>Jaina is possessed by old god stuff, as is the entirety of kul tiras
>Magni is working for the old gods
>Azeroth is dying
>Next expansion is gonna be a combination of naga and old god stuff
>Very lovecraftian
>Ship will be the new garrison
>Half-assed naval combat

>>49548237
>sisters
Good god, how do you know my fetishes so well?

>>49550384
South seas expansion is soft-confirmed

It will be Azshara, Kul Tiras, Zandalar, Kezan, Tel Abim, Hiji and Plunder Isle

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>>49550461
>Kul Tiras appears out of nowhere near Gilneas

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>>49550384
>Jaina with old gods tentacles

She is pure!

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure!

>>49550630
>dragonfucker
>orcfucker
>pure

>>49550254
>Before Chronicles.
Older than that. The Eradar change was no later than BC, and I think the lore pages on the old WoW site always had it as Sargeras corrupting them.

>>49550526
Uh. There was like... um... mist. Or something. But it's like super mystery magical mist, so you couldn't tell it was there.

Nailed it.

>>49550805
Goddamnit Dave, we've already used that for Pandaria. How about dangerous whirlpools that formed around it after the Cataclysm? Naga Siege? Neptulon's kidnapping fucking up the seas so much that it became nearly unreachable for years? Permanent megastorms?

>>49550646
>>orcfucker
She never did get to ride Green Jesus' hammer.

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>>49550630
She's my kind of pure, if you know what I'm sayin....

>>49525715
>>Anduin?

Could be Wrathion. Boy-King = Prince?

>>49550890
Fuck it, we'll just say it fucking moved. Cataclysm moved it. It's in the south now. It moved. Nobody can say it didn't move.

>>49551032
Nice job, Steve! But why didn't we try to make contact with them? Especially after Jaina lost Theramore.

>>49550630
She fucked a prince, Orc and dragon in that order.

She probably has the loosest pussy on Azeroth by now and craves bigger and bigger dicks to satisfy her.
Last logical step would be tentacle fucked by an old God or impaled on Sargeras' planet cracking cock.

>>49550957
Pure slutty.

>>49551083
The trolls? They haven't done anything in awhile. Maybe they did that?

>>49550957
Wtf even is this horrible creature

>>49551000
Wrathion would also work for the "child of light and shadow", as purified black dragon, if you don't take it literally as the Light and Void

>>49550957
As much as I am all for girl muscle, that looks nothing like Jaina.

>>49551100
>Kalec sex

Novels were a mistake.

I hate how the aspect of the blues that helped defeat KJ is now a beta tween that can't get shit done, gets emotional over some used up slut in only a few days of interaction, gets dumped, then runs errand for some literally who "archmage"

>>49551184
Shasadow? Sure, both figuratively (Black dragon) and literally (Old God/Void corruption of the eggs originally used to create his).

But, Light? He was purified by Titan technology found in the Badlands, and Titan stuff, as far as I know (and according to Chronicle V. 1), is based off Arcane magic, not the Light. I don't think it fits that well, personally.

>>49551000
Nope, it's Anduin. The most obvious thing. Blizzard is into simple things.

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Well boys, I think I'm about burnt out on Legion. I hit 840 on my main and I feel like there's nothing left to do but grind: grind AP, grind for rep, grind Suramar, grind WQs, grind mythics and NO hope of ever getting a legendary, which locks me out of a lot of group content. Am I missing something?

>>49551521
PvP masterrace

>>49551521
>840 on main
>just now
RNG must despise you.

Also don't be so mopey about not getting a legendary, or you'll end up with a garbage one and regret getting it.

>>49551184
That's Anduin and Wrathion's love

>>49551586
I tried to like PvP but every time I meet an opposing player they just stunlock me till I die.

>>49551709
Sounds like you need to git gud.

>>49549978
He lets his balls hang around

>>49549978
>Kingdom fell because he sucks
>Got caught conspiring with enemies because he sucks at espionage
>Got fooled into joining Failidan Babyrage because he sucks at choosing allies
>He failed to betray Failidan because he sucks at fighting people
>Get demoted into a 5man boss because he straight up sucks

He did everything wrong.

>>49550890
Okay. Uhh. Think Dave you can do this.... got it! Clouds. Mystery magic clouds that are low to the ground. They popped up cuz the people in the area were sad about being cucked by gilnaes. Now theyre back to get stormwind-chans attention back. Sometimes I amaze myself.

>>49551964
Shut up! The doctor said it's totally normal for one to be lower than the other.

>>49552023
>butt hurt ally

Garithos had been, is, and forever will be the dumbest and most useless character

>>49552446
He is, but he was from Lordaeron and we know what who other useless cunt came out of there who only became tolerable when he got the disease we call death. Kael is just one failure after another and unlike the ones who decided that sticking around was a better choice he never learned from any of his mistakes.

>>49552483
Is there literally a single character from Lordaeron that isn't a huge dumbass?

>>49551709
Sounds like you suck. WoW has easymode pvp.

>>49551895
>>49553373
If you need to stroke your ego, please use a trip. If you post anonymously, we won't know who to associate your apparent skill with next time you post.

>Transfer main to PvE server for private RP guild with friends.
>Almost no RP
>One friend in particular starts pushing the guild into heavy endgame PvE focus
>Mention to him that although I'm interested in endgame PvE, I'm not going to turn a video game into a job
>He's fine with it
>About a couple weeks into Legion, hit 109, decide I need a break from grinding
>Make an alt on my old RP server to talk to friends over there
>Tell friends this ahead of time
>Week passes, decide to boost alt because I'm a money-wasting faggot
>Friend goes all jealous girlfriend on me because I'm spending time on the RP server and not grinding my ass off to keep up with the rest of the guild
>Drops me from both Battle.net and Facebook

I'm kind of annoyed he was such a bitch about it, but I'm glad dealing with them was finally over. They were good friends for a few years, but I'm not going to turn what little vidya I do play into a job. Having way more fun RPing with my other friends and progressing at my own pace.

Also decided to go Death Knight with my alt (now main) and couldn't be happier with that choice. Fun to RP and play with in general, and the story was pretty enjoyable too.

>>49552945
Arthas' mom, literally no screen time to give any character other than "nice queen"

>>49552483
Kael isnt a failure, his circumstances is the failure. He literally had no choices in majority of his story. The only time he got to pick between two viable choices was teaming up with Tyrande and Maiev. All other choices were you either die with your army or get help from this shitty asshole.

>Inb4 BC
Even blizz admit BC “lore” is shit even for WoW standards

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>>49551100
>Fucked 3 guys in a the space of a decade
>The loosest pussy on Azeroth

>>49553535
Leave the virgin alone.

>>49553535
>Implying orcs dont have horse dicks
>Implying dragons dont have dicks larger than her whole body
>Not loose pussy

Stay ded, Uther

>>49527229
WELL MET

>>49548069
Inaccurate.

http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/MrDoodles/149664/Draenei-High---Part-1/page/all

>>49548343
Still worth it.

>>49552945
Caila, maybe.

Also Terenas' ghost I guess.

>>49550254
>They were one of the races, along with the Pit Lords,
Along with nathrezim

>>49551100
>Orc
no

>>49553673
>Inaccurate.
Thanks

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Alterac did everything wrong.

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>>49553535

Go back to your green shortstack waifus and Heroes of the Storm, Uther.

>>49554386
The hilarious part is that after the war, even trusting Alterac was enough to get two black dragons into the royal court

>>49554101
No problem. I do what I can to support space goat love.

>start a world war, kill hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, nearly resurrect an old god
>get put on trial with a jury biased towards you and get guarded so poorly that you manage to escape

>be a moose
>get sentenced to death with no due process and summarily executed by a gang of thugs
Azeroth's justice system is scary

>>49554518
What moose?

>>49554569
Majestic Elderhorn
he was a good boy he dindu nuffin

>>49554622
What did you expect from Maiev, sanity?

>>49554518
The whole thing with trial was retarded. Varian stopping Thrall's killstealing was the stupidest thing he's ever done.

>>49554518
To be fair, it took the leaders of both the horde and the alliance to keep the PCs from just ganking Garrosh in SoO, and even then they had to bribe us with loot, a portal back AND a fancy tree.

If you're a moose, getting randomly ganked so I can use your hoof to make my motorcycle go faster is about best you can expect.

>>49553418
Well, I would, except only one of those is me. Maybe you just suck at picking out anons too?

>>49554953
>it took the leaders of both the horde and the alliance
and Taran Zhu's plot armor

new thread
>>49555078
>>49555078
>>49555078

>>49554977
You can both use trips if that's what you need.

>>49554622
>Moose
Implying that isnt Malf in travel form. The wardens are taking revenge on Malf for fucking with Maiev's plan to captre Illidan