MTG Modern General

First for dying format.

who do you think is gonna take the trophy home this weekend, bois? My money is on affinity

eli getting that turn 3 win

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>knightfall

>>49393614
what do I want? 4c Retreat
what do I think? burn maybe

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>another eldrazi mirror

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>>49393376
>>SCG Orlando Modern Open
Is there an "our guy" at these events? Are any nameable players confirmed fa/tg/uys?

>>49393704
you're kidding right? even if any pro-players went to 4chan, they would never admit it

>20 hours of anime a week
lel

>>49393769
>Pro player admits they go to 4chan
>Instant permanent DCI ban for association with a website for paedophilic hackers on steroids who are members of the KKK

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>>49393769
Pro MTG players are less famous than Andrew W.K., and he held a bloody Q&A session on /mu/. I don't think anyone besides us really cares who's on 4chan.

>>49393856
How did you manage to build a deck that loses to blood moon, graveyard hate, artifact hate, aggro, and itself at the same time?

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>>49393920
The key is in the filename. It's not my deck.

>>49393936
>"The numbers, what do they mean Mason?"

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>>49393704
I miss when those low cut flared jeans the girl is wearing were in style.

>>49393966
the file name is a unix timestamp of when the picture was saved, presumably from here. Hence, 4chan filename.

>>49393627
I wish KOTR was relevant in modern. I really do. I loved maverick in legacy.

tg whats stopping anyone from going to these scg opens? I'm pretty good at modern, why haven't I gotten off my ass and tried to win some real tournaments?

>tom ross on 8-rack
>vs infect
wat de fugg

>>49394097
>why haven't I gotten off my ass and tried to win some real tournaments?
Only you can answer that.

hunted wumpus beats

>>49394114
Tom Ross is so bad at magic. I hate him

does this kid remind anyone else of that round where reid duke was on GW boggles when he took a mull down to 3/4? that was so painful to watch.

>>49393856
How does this deck even work? Why are these Flamejabs and not Lightning bolts?

Is there a bracket up so I can see who's left

>>49394570
Wincon is Spellweaver Helix imprinted with Flame Jab and Worldfire. Helix can be triggered by a Flame Jolt cast with Retrace, so you just have to mill one rather than reliably draw one.

You can also go infinite with Helix, Jab/Crime and a Time Warp/Stretch by using Loam to get your lands back for Retrace every turn.

>>49393936
What is the point of this deck apart from waiting a million turns to sort off get your win cons online.

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>some retard thinks he's 1337 player and plays 8rack
>win game 1
>next game drop leyline on one and he concedes
>i wasn't even close to winning

>>49394720
You reliably go to time every round.

>>49394720
Some people just aren't satisfied playing the same decks as everyone else. They're always hoping to be the next Eggs.

>>49394685

you can also get around grafdigger's cage by exiling a loam with helix and dredging the other with an extra turn spell, although it costs extra

>>49395653
I don't think anyone cares what your deck can do at the kitchen table

>>49395984

>wow nobody cares
epic XD

>>49396027
Stay mad, retard

>>49394899
>leyline on one

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>>49394899
>playing Grixis Control
>keep hand with two Lilianas, because when it is a bad card?
>8rack is when it's a bad card
>opponent drops Swamp and Inquisitions me
>idon'tknowwhatiexpected.webm
>reveal Inquisition, Rune Snag and the Lilis
>he chooses Liliana of the Veil
>mfw

>>49397315
Your entire hand is trash. Picking Rune Snag is a horrible choice because he aims to empty your hand and make your counters shit (btw, they suck with Liliana) and Inquisition is hardly productive.

>>49397441
It was game 1. I had no idea what they were playing. 3 lands, disruption, a counter and two Walkers seemed like a solid hand against most decks.

>>49397501
Don't mock people when you're bad

>>49397734

What the fuck are you talking about, he's saying "I kept a pretty bad hand for the matchup and he took my worst option"

Are you saying you would mull away a targetted discard an answer and two lilis? All you're saying is "you're bad"

Fuck off troll

>>49397734
you sound like the kind of guy who bolts a creature, then realizes afterwards that what he targeted had regenerate.

>>49397877
people still get assblasted over 4chan posts?

lul

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>when they dont concede when you drop AN and make you go through the motions online

>>49397982
dude
I go through the motions of having emotions every day
why do people even bother man?

>>49398012
you could say that your emotions both you... ad nauseam

>>49397982
It lets me see your entire deck list, or at least a good portion of it. Only an idiot wouldn't take free information.

>>49398026
he surrendered game 1, but not game 2
he tried to cursecatcher lightning storm when i had 3 mana up
he ticked aether vial up to 4
it was painful

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>tfw nobody plays legacy on xmage
>tfw gave in and just played modern

>>49397969

>he has nothing better to do than shitpost and call people mad and then say "that wasn't even me"

wew lad

>>49398212
not an argument, try again

>>49398226

not an argument, try again

>>49398233
keep me posted

>>49393393
>>49393627
>>49393800
>>49395984
>>49396027
>>49396032
>>49397734
>>49397969
>>49398212
>>49398226
>>49398233
>>49398291

thread is off to a gr8 start boys

So does anyone anticipate a twin unban with the new {W} silver bullet enchantment? I can't say anything but it doesn't seem out of the question

>>49398372
lolno
they aren't going to unban anything that wasnt on the original list for a long time, if ever

>>49398372
I doubt it, it would probably hurt their ego. Maybe unban twin ban exarch

>>49398372
twin will be unbanned in something like five years, same as gravetroll

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>>49393936
The academy ruins seems a bit odd, especially with only two Mines, but I can see it as a way to get back Elixir after a Decay/Kcommand. The reason I don't like it is that A) Elixir is crutial but only as a safety net, and while running two safety nets is even safer I wouldn't bother, and B) If Elixir gets Kcommand/Decayed, you've already won/lost as they're not focusing the Mines, and C) IIRC it doesn't stop them popping Relic when you pop Elixir.

It's an extremely low opportunity cost though, so I can totally see it being played (as well as stuff like Inkmoth vs infinite life)

Of all the colorless lands I've ran, the most consistently good one would have to be the charge land. It never does much, but it rarely disappoints. Sometimes with Fountain it's useless but other games that dumb land is the only reason you live.
Gemstone Caverns has been very good to me, some games it does nothing but the games it does work make up for it.

Also, I'm curious if that list should run a babyjace in the 75. His ult is the best alternate wincon. Snap chumps are really damn good in the deck too, I really like that list.

>>49398389
They unbanned Nacatl a little over two years after it was banned.

Of course, that doesn't make Twin's unbanning likely, but it goes to show cards that weren't on the original banlist aren't impossible to bring back.

>>49398972
Fair point
Nacatl isn't nearly as powerful as Twin though
Although I am curious my GGT was banned in the first place, since Dread Return was also banned, it seems like just now is Dredge actually powerful in Modern

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>tfw someone mills you to death with multiple Thought Scours while you're playing Dredge

I was playing against Thing Ascension and had boarded in a couple Gnaw to the Bones, so my life total was inflated beyond any hope for them of killing me with damage. Instead they just kept bouncing my board back into my hand and then finished off my library instead.

>>49399032
Golgari Grave-Troll was banned preemptively. They had no idea what Modern Dredge could or could not do, so they hit Grave-Troll in the initial list just to be safe.

>>49399090
great format
fuck I hate WotC

>>49399090
Modern dredge is good because amalgam is busted, not because of troll. If troll was banned again dredge would still be good, but if amalgam was banned dredge would go back to being a tier 2 deck at best.

>>49399279
no kidding.
amalgam working with narcomoeba is fucking nutty.

>>49399077
You got next level'd.
That's the thing with ascension decks and why I love them so much, they have so many angles of attack.
>Opponent side leyline of sanctity
Say hello to my goblin friends.
>Opponent brings leyline of the void
Wait till I have critical mass on hand then on their EoT echoing truth their leyline and go off on my turn. Not to mention the time I said Epic Experiment for 8, my opponent didn't knew that was a card.
>Opponent Thoughtseizes me then Surgical extracts my draw spells
Kill him with 6 lightning bolts.
Not to mention the times they ask that if you really can target creatures with Grapeshot.
I love ascension decks and always keep a single Storm Crow on my wallet at all times.

>>49399301
>>49399279
>Playing Modern for fun with a friend
>T1 Neonate, discard Troll, dredge a Narcomoeba and 2 Amalagams
Pretty much goes without saying I won that game by a landslide

>>49399406
I hope Dredge starts to fly under the radar so I can hit up some Modern tournaments.
Although I'm missing the Amalgams and Conflagrates.

>>49399312
I played UR Storm at the start of the year, being able to go t2 Electromancer t3 Ritual, Ritual, Manamorphose, Ritual, Experiment for 7 and win is a good feeling. (I did that in one of the rounds at GP Melbourne this year)

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Anyone else getting fucking NO cards on Pucatrade? I didn't know Future Site would be this fatal... still got 78AUSD on that fucking site.

Also r8 my faeries deck cunts

4 Darkslick Shores
2 Faerie Conclave
3 Ghost Quarter
2 Island
4 Mutavault
4 River of Tears
4 Secluded Glen
2 Swamp
1 Batterskull
4 Bitterblossom
3 Cryptic Command
3 Go for the Throat
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Mana Leak
2 Mistbind Clique
2 Remand
2 Scion of Oona
1 Slaughter Pact
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Spell Snare
4 Spellstutter Sprite
3 Thoughtseize
2 Vendilion Clique

Sideboard:
2 Appetite for Brains
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Flaying Tendrils
1 Hibernation
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Spellskite

Pic unrelated. But it's my new play-mat. You jelly?

>>49399652

Well when the whole puca economy relies on points that (should have equivalents to USD) are heavily inflated and only worth 60% of their dollar value, it has to end sometimes. The owner use the site as a cash grab. They take peoples money and pump as much points in as they please. Points to pay for advertising on youtube, points for signing up, etc etc. No regulation. It was only a matter of time.

>>49399126
It was a new format and Dredge is a scary Legacy boogeyman, they weren't sure how things would shape up when they made the first banlist so they went with a lot of gut feelings.

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I want to find a way to make a modern Pox deck that can force the opponent to either kill themsevles or be the ultimate deciding factor in what kills them
ie
>reversing life gain
>forcing draws and life loss on draw
>giving the opponent creatures that hinder them in some way
>forcing the opponent to take damage from his own lands or creatures
>attacking or destroying creatures that then destroy them (phyrexian obliterator)

Ive been trying to think of more creative a tricky combos for pox that are still modern legal otherwise Ill go Legacy

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-09-16-assisted-suicide/

>>49400123
Some of those cards are not modern legal, and legacy pox is already a thing

>>49400123
(you)

>>49400157
yeah, thinking of viable replacements to make a modern deck. Ive had all these cards already, which is why the deck is like this at the moment.

It's pretty fun to play like it is, can I make it modern while still being a fun 8-rack deck.

>>49400175
>>49400157
its now modern legal

Can i get help making my RDW better?
Decklist
4 Eidolon of the great revel
3 skullcrack
4 riftbolt
4 lightning bolt
4 monastery swiftspear
4 vexing devil
3 searing blaze
2 grim lavamancer
4 shard volley
3 magma jet
4 lava spike
4 hellspark elemental
20 land
Sideboard
3 leyline of punishment
2 roast
2 smash to smithereens
1 ball lightning
3 searing blood
1 pillar of flame
1 skullcrack
1 spark elemental
other cards i have
4 crumble to dust
3 spark elemental
1 searing blood
4 keldon marauders
3 ball lightning
1 leyline of punishment
3 pillar of flame
4 wear/tear

>>49400552
take out vexing devil.

>>49400623
I thought it was good?

>>49400647
LOL. Just play burn

>>49400647
whn you want early preasure, they take 4. when you want to dome them for 4 you get a probably irelevant creature.

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>tfw playing Grixis Delver and flipping Delver so quick and so often your opponent gets pissed

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>>49400719

>tfw still dies to bolt anyway

>>49400647
It gives your opponent the choice, and they will always choose the one that least benefits you. Vexing devil belongs in a casual reanimator deck

>>49394899
What a shit player for not running 4 Pack Rats, LOTV and Ratchet Bomb in the 75.

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>tfw I just want to play an artifact aggro deck that isnt Robots
>No strong thopter or thopter generating cards on Kaladesh
>Thopter Sword still isnt a thing

Disappointing.

>>49401087
>I want to play an artifact aggro deck, but refuse to play a good artifact aggro deck
>wow why are none of my options good?

>>49401153

If I wanted to win I'll play BGx. Its more of something that I really want to be a thing since Thopters are my favorite creature type.

>>49400700
>>49400909
>>49400699
What should i replace it with?
Is the rest of the deck good?

>>49401183
Goblin guide.

Get fetches and run boros charm and atarkas command.

>>49400719
they always say "k" when i reveal

>tfw keep hand with no threats g2 on draw
>probe. see two elders, 2 scapeshift, 1 btl, 1 land
>visions pyromancer to top
>shoal his turn2 elder
>drop pyro, extract elder
>proceed to close game with a gazillion elementals while he struggles for land

deck is a blast, saving up for landbase asap

>>49401338
I want to i just don't have money for that right now

>>49401350
buy them one at a time over the course of several weeks ya dingus

>>49401350
The fuck, get rid off the vexing devils and you got money for atarka's and boros charm.

Any of you dudes have SCG premium and can pastebin this article, or know of a way to get around it? I just want to read about modern and god forbid you find it in this thread

www.starcitygames.com/article/33673_Kaladesh-Modern-Analysis.html

Why didn't David reanimate Griselbrand to block? He had Goryo's in hand.

>>49399872
TSG on the heavy meta cast was says that the if you were to do favors for the guy who started it (and still runs an LGC) he would offer to pay you in pucapoints first then cash if you said no.

John has lethal with Infect, let's see if he sees it.

SCGLive? More like Watch Tom Ross Live

I've been gone for an hour, what have I missed?

>Ashley Taylor
>Female
Yeah I'm sure xhe is "female".

>>49404954
Wizards announced they're removing blue and all blue cards.

Oh boy we just got to watch one player combo off, now we get to see another!

>>49405195
that's what I thought but it might be a legit girl
that other """"""girl"""""" that was on stream is 100% tranny

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>SCG stream

This format is just terrible. I want more Legacy. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49405280
You can tell it was actually a girl because she looked pretty when she smiled.

Unlike "Emma" Handy who gets thrown on camera the instant "she" walks into the room because LOOK GUYS WE'RE INCLUSIVE AND TOLERANT.

>>49405303
>""""Emma"""" "Handy"
yeah that's the one
i dont get why trannies act like they can pass, literally everyone knows youre a tranny

>>49405340
>i dont get why trannies act like they can pass

Is your idea of "acting like they can pass" just "appearing in public"?

>>49399090
They also did it for Stoneforge Mystic, which I'm bitter about.

couldn't jund block the geist with confidant, then slaughter pact the token?? I feel like that matchup was still winnable especially when all you need to do is untap and slam thragtusk.

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I'm a complete beginner to "competitive" magic with a basic-level grasp of magic mechanics and absolutely no familiarity of the Modern metagame or how competitive magic is played or the lessons and behaviors that competitive players have engrained into themselves after years of play.

What reasonably strong budget Modern deck should I buy? I just want to plunge in balls deep while accepting that I'll shit myself with misplays and missed triggers while getting fucked in the butt.

>>49405884
Appearing in public wearing female clothes and make up and telling everyone you meet your preferred noun, yes.

>>49406466
There are no reasonably strong budget decks

>>49406503
Let's go with really shit budget decks that are barely a step above kitchen table then.

>>49406474
I don't think they're acting like they pass in that scenario, just relying on courtesy.

>>49406466
rg tron or merfolk would probably the strongest decks for a "budget". there's also living end and ad nauseam, but they are combo decks that can do very well or very poorly depending on meta game

>>49406527
Look into Grixis Delver

>>49406466
Monored Burn is fairly budget and not that much worse than the naya/boros versions. Better in the mirror since you take less off your manas and you can even beat Leyline with creatures beats and Eidolon.

>>49406466
You're probably looking to spend about $400-$500 for one of the "cheaper" good decks of the format.

Of decks in the $400-$500 range, you have your pick of:
>Dredge
>Eldrazi and Taxes
>Ad Nauseum
>Living End
>Elves

You might actually be able to get Dredge built for less than $400 depending on the exact build.

>>49406586
>Grixis Delver
>A deck that wants Tarns

Worrying.

>>49406527
Soul Sisters was $90 when I started Modern. It's Tier 3 or 4, but still fucks decks that can't side against it.

>>49406783
Probably because no deck needs to.

>>49406783
According to mtggoldfish, Souls Sisters is around $500 now. Affinity was $200 when I started Modern, so you can see how prices have kind of gotten out of hand.

>>49406466
If money is not a concern, then ignore Modern and play Legacy. It's more expensive, but it's a format where the strongest deck is the one that you know how to play; a format where a "tier one" deck piloted by a noob can easily be defeated by a home brew piloted by a dedicated, experienced player.

>>49406844
>If money is not a concern

Why would you lead with that when someone asks for a budget deck?

>>49406828
>Norin Sisters is $800
What the fuck happened?

>>49406844
>a format where a "tier one" deck piloted by a noob can easily be defeated by a home brew piloted by a dedicated, experienced player.
This is also true for Modern. Eldrazi Winter proved that.

>8rack
wew lad

top 8rekt

>>49406920
>Eldrazi Winter proved that.
Lol what?

>>49406920
>What the fuck happened?

The classic increase in demand with little to no increase in supply.

>>49406968
>doesn't remember Eldrazi winter
This is a new "new" record

>>49406968
When Eldrazi exploded with BfZ and became the archetype to beat, it became really obvious which players knew the format and could play the field, and which were scrubs with babby's first Tier 1 deck.

>>49407000
How does Eldrazi Winter prove
>a "tier one" deck piloted by a noob can easily be defeated by a home brew piloted by a dedicated, experienced player.

Everyone remembers Eldrazi Winter, nobody knows what you're talking about though.

>>49407000
I was questioning the truth of the proposition "a "tier one" deck piloted by a noob can easily be defeated by a home brew piloted by a dedicated, experienced player", not the existence of the Eldrazi Winter.
>>49407030
Yet somehow this wasn't reflected in the top8s at all.

>>49406920
>Norin Sisters is $800
>What the fuck happened?
People realized that people dont buy singles, they buy decks. If people will buy junk goodstuff for 1000 dollars then they will also pay 1000 dollars for the deck that made semifinals at a tournament against junk goodstuff.

>>49407155
People all flock to the cheaper decks and that inflates their prices eventually.
This is the power of the Magic economy

>>49407192
Then the autistic playerbase refuses to lose a little money on a card so prices never come back down. And in the meantime, you've got teenage pseudo-stockbrokers trying to hoard cards to make money.

>>49407155
>>49407192
I have fond memories of getting into Modern early and watching everything spiral out of control. My brother decided to buy Living End pretty much on a whim, and it cost him less than $60 to do it. Fulminators were $5 each, Spirit Guides were $1, Living End was $10 for a playset, the Fastlands were practically nothing. The whole deck is about $700 now.

It's amazing just how ridiculous things have become.

>>49407325
And here I am praying every day they'll reprint Liliana and Verdant Catacombs

>>49406920
>>49407030
What are you talking about? The Eldrazi Pro Tour was like 6 eldrazi decks in the Top 8, literally "who gets to play Thought-knot Seer first": the format. WotC admitted they fucked it completely up and not only nerfed the deck by banning Eye of Ugin, but they also dissolved the whole Modern Pro Tour concept as a result of it. In no way is it a legit example of "homebrews defeating noobs running tier 1 decks".

I've been away from Modern because I got into EDH for like about six months now. I have an Affinity deck. Is it still good? What have been major changes in the meta?

>>49407514
>I have an Affinity deck. Is it still good?
Affinity has never not been good. And the maindeck has barely changed outside of the numbers for the past 3-4 years now.

>What have been major changes in the meta?
Bant Eldrazi and Dredge are decks now, Abzan Company has fallen out of favor, Nahiri Jeskai is certainly a meme at this point, Junk Midrange is rising in popularity, and Suicide Zoo is definitely seeing play.

>>49407485
I bought Lilianas at an all-time low of $16 each. Don't worry, maybe it'll go down to $60 if they put it in Modern Masters 3.

>>49407514
Affinity still good.
Abzan (now with delirium) and jund are both super big.

>>49407598
I'd fucking take that desu

>>49407514
With how poorly players responded to MM2 and EMA, it might be necessary for them to do something big with MM3 like finally reprinting the Zendikar fetches.

>>49407668
Having an MSRP of 10 was also fucking retarded, especially when nothing inside them is good

>>49407683
They were coasting on how good MM1 was and they knew it.

ITT people that don't understand how card prices work with exploding player bases over X years

>>49407735
And they fucking butchered it
Parading this around as a "draft set" is bullshit and everyone knows it
Lili needs to get reprinted too, they should just fucking reprint everything even if it was in MM1, just do Vials, Cavern, Goyf, Path's again, Inquisition AT UNCOMMON, thoughtseize, all the good stuff but without retarded pricing
Conspiracy already showed that they're willing to do that, so maybe they'll have shaped up by then

>>49407735
Coasting doesn't really work if your new product is openly shit and everyone knows it

>>49407774

i'd be surprised if lili and snapcaster, and noble hierarch aren't in MM3

>>49407774
>balance the set around limited
>but make the print run extremely small
A lot more people should have called this bullshit. I'm so fucking mad

>>49407777
MM2 actually did fine in sales, despite being shit, because people actually were still high on MM1. It wasn't until EMA that people were wary enough to see through it.

anyone else really hoping kassis wins this thing?

EMA helped EDH players way more than actual Eternal players

>>49401495
Late ass reply, i know but those aren't useful without fetches right?

>>49407979
yo

>>49407979
Not really after the free win handed to him by the Infect player who doesn't know how to use Spellskite.

>>49407979
I'm an Affinity player through and through. Have to root for my fellow artificer.

>>49408016
EDH is an eternal format

>>49408031
Well, you are missing so many good burn spells not being in naya colors. Paying 2 mana for 2 dmg on magma jet isn't going to win the game, I'm quite sure.

Btw, rip 8-rack.

>>49408076
What ended up happening? Did they just let something eat a Path?

>>49408109
He had Spellskite with 18 or 16 life cant recall, so basically he could have just paid 6 life to prevent all Knight untaps on the turn in question, untap, possibly kill him or keep up two blue for the next 2 triggers (knight taps for fetchland+crack) on the following turn and pay 2 life for the third one (land for the turn) on the turn after that (Knight wouldn't have been lethal).

>>49407833
EMA was great...

>>49408091
I want to eventually upgrade to naya but the land costs a lot i can buy all the spells rn but i don't have enough money to buy the fetches making the spells useless

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They raised the question during the stream and now I am curious. What are the chances this guy eats a ban?

>>49408150

EMA would have been great if they had given the set a large print-run. The card selection was excellent, the fact that it made zero impact on prices was less excellent.

>>49407774

Paths aren't that much. Inquisition just got a reprint and is relatively cheap, and thought seize can be had for like 11-12.

>>49408199
I can see it eventually
It's not degenerate enough right now but it really has potential to be abused. It's a better lotus petal but only makes red, could really be nuts
AN or GV arent't going to be big enough to get it banned though

>>49408199
People were talking about banning SSG during Eldrazi Winter. I think it'd be hilarious.

>>49408227
Sure, it's more about the fact that the cards are used enough that they can always be reprinted. They aren't big offenders but they're just solid cards that can be reprinted without anyone complaining about

>cucks in twitch chat calling for SSG ban
lel

>>49408206
Jace, Karakas, Crypt, FoW, Sneak Attack, Top, Dack, and many others went down. You sound like you want the card market to crash like yugioh with massive reprint numbers.

fingers crossed for eli on the draw!!

>>49408269
Just because a card sees good play and has moderate value means that it should be reprinted into the ground just because.

>>49408399
*doesn't mean

>>49408339
Force of Will went up actually. And the announcement of EMA caused many cards on the reserved list, such as LEDs and dual lands to skyrocket in prices. It did more harm than anything.

>>49408091
Can you recommend switching out cards out of the ones i already have?

is bloodbraid elf with Visions really that good in modern with no library manipulation besides serum

>>49408449
Actually, I was wrong about FoW. I mean to say the price is rebounding. Fow is 10 dollars cheaper now than it was before EMA.

>>49408488

ten whole dollars! Woah nelly, what value!!

>>49408480
nope. its bad.

>>49408480
No, but the plan is to hit Kcommand, LOTV, goyf, TS or Bob.

>>49408567
>Thoughtseize

Yeah, a turn 4 Thoughtseize is so good.

>>49408449

LED went up because of buyouts. Where have you been?

>>49408637
Taking out their t4 play after answering their first two ones with IoKDecayLiliBolt while getting a hasty 3/2, it is.
>nice Ad Nauseam/Become Immense/Cryptic/Scapeshift you got there

>>49408656
You're retarded

>>49408521

The point of reprints isn't to tank the overall value you retard.

>>49408656
I'm guessing you're talking about the recent price spike as opposed to the spike on february 15 which coincides with the announcement of EMA.

>>49408656
mmmm no, not when EMA was announced

>>49408199

I don't get it. Who plays this card and what for?

>>49408784
>Why plays this card
Combo decks.

>what for?
To combo off one turn earlier.

>>49408803

Right but why would they ban it? Combo doesn't seem particularly strong at all right now.

>>49408818
It isn't
It's a retarded argument
The only decks using it are Ad Nauseam, which is alright but not broken, this Goryo's deck, which is a literally who deck at this point, and I think Living End, which is low tier 2

>Keeping a slow burn hand vs. Combo

Didn't like the idea of it, and it didn't pan out.

>>49409019
To be fair if he had had any 1drop for Drum it would have been t4 kill with Inkmoths+Overseers.

>Mulling down to five

Well, feeling pretty bad for Cuvelier right now.

>>49409109
He has Plating he's all set.

>>49409130
>Eating the Plating

So bad. Why wouldn't he eat the Citadel?

>>49408721

god help us if we offend those who sank their financial futures into fucking cardboard.

Goryo's Vengeance eats a ban next monday
screencap this post
make fun of me if im wrong

>>49409294
No need to screencap. I already know you're wrong.

>>49409294
Why do people ask other people to screencap? Can you not do it yourself?

>>49409237
If you want to play a game with worthless cards then go back to yugioh. The secondary market is one of the best things about the magic community. Assuming you played and bought into modern and legacy you can always exit at any given moment and leave with a large majority of the value of your collection.

>>49409754
>The secondary market is one of the best things about the magic community.

kill yourself senpai

http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/3869_day_2_metagame_breakdown_.html
Aggro4lyfe

>>49409754
I hit a monetary rough patch lately and sold over $1000 worth of cards and it only barely dented my collection. I could probably live for over a year just by selling cards.

>>49409826
there are other card games anon

>>49409844
>deck is called 4 color retreat
>only plays the blue retreat
I am disappoint

>Turn three kill

Infect is gonna bite a ban somewhere.

>another turn 3 infect kill
hoooooo booooooooy

I guess it's now a good time to buy into Ad Nauseam

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>>49409754
You are the cancer killing magic
Commit sudoku asap
Asshole

>"I like infect because I can win on turn two."

haww

So can we all agree that something from infect is going to get banned?

>>49410238

Modern isn't in the pro tour anymore so why would Wizard's care?

>>49410268
really? when did that change?
thank fucking christ

>>49410238
Become Immense has been a contender for a while now, since it's been a problem for powering out early kills in both Infect and Zooicide. Mutagenic is also possible.

Of the creatures, Glistener Elf is obviously the biggest problem for early kills, but they might not want to kill the deck outright.

>>49409754
i sold out of standard and a couple modern decks, then bought a $3800 mountain bike and legacy death & taxes with the proceeds.

Become Immense is getting the Banhammer.

Delve was a horrendous mistake almost on the level of Phyrexian Mana

>>49410376
>legacy death & taxes
Good choice.
>$3800 mountain bike
Idk about that, however.

>>49410387
Is sad because the card is cheap
I think i would have to replace it for a become immense then

>>49410363
This. I'm expecting Become Immense to get hit.

>become immense banned
>treasure cruise banned
>dig through time banned
>wizards not sucking at card design

>>49410510
Reminder that none of them were a major problem in Standard.

>>49410510
At least we'll still have Murderous Cut :^)

>tfw just got out a turn 2 emrakul
this deck is retarded

>>49410532
It turns out delve is broken in a format of a million cantrips and every fetchland.

>>49410510
They don't care about modern

>>49410600
This. They flat out said they test for Standard and Limited only. This is why we got the Eldrazi Winter. They only care about the nonrotating formats when it's time to shill for a new Masters set they can bleed the players dry for.

>>49410632
They knew about eldrazi winter, they just didn't do anything to push product

>>49410632
You say capitalism like it's a bad thing

>>49410678
Capitalism is also chinese proxy-makers offering the same product at 1/10 the price. Fucking with your customers too much causes them to lose their loyalty real quick.

>>49410376
I implore everyone to sell out of standard. It is the biggest money pit in MTG by far.

>>49410777
>implying modern isn't too
>implying edh hasn't gotten fucking retarded

>>49411125
EDH is helped by only needing 1 copy of each card, and you can easily run with suboptimal cards and still have a strong deck due solely to the nature of the format. Modern is full retard priced though. You can easily get a strong Legacy deck for a few hundred dollars over a Modern deck.

>>49411125
this

I just play kitchen table pauper now. Actual pauper is fedora-tier, but in kitchen table it serves to bring the game speed down to manageable levels when everyone is coming from a Modern+ background.

>>49411188
What's fedora tier about actual pauper?

>>49411187
>implying
EDH is vomiting land hate and infinite combos at this point.
>you can easily run with suboptimal cards
Except every card you run has a dramatic effect on the board state when it enters. Otherwise there's no reason to have that card in the deck.

It's a mess.

>>49411125
It's great if you bought into it a few years ago.

>>49411216
Yes, but a lot of EDH staples are dirt cheap because they are literally unplayable everywhere else outside of kitchen table.

>>49411212
The players are mostly faggots who endlessly toot their own horn about how they're "smart players who refuse to spend too much money on cardboard"

It's the tooting their own horns part that's the problem. Also some of them bitch about any card that costs over a certain amount, or are of a certain age, because they're "too powerful" and/or "probably a fake"

It probably depends on your local group. That's how mine is, and I see it online enough that I assume it's true for most of the dedicated pauper players.

>>49411241
That's the point I was making. The most entry-level deck is still the $20 infinite combo off Mikaeus, right?

>>49406691
>Of decks in the $400-$500 range, you have your pick of:
>>Dredge
>>Eldrazi and Taxes
>>Ad Nauseum
>>Living End
>>Elves

>Living End is up in the $400 range now
Oh for fuck's sake.

>>49411247
Word

>>49411218
I did now I'm selling out of edh and modern. So far it's paid for my rent for this month, textbooks for this semester, got me a bunch of new board games and I'm still not done

>>49411241
>Mana Vault
>Mana Crypt
>Top
>Duals
>Mana Drain
>Force of Will
WTF man, edh staples are price AF

>>49411188
I'm taking all my junk and building a few decks that are around the same power and then people can borrow them and play that way. But ffs I've used my future sight goyfs maybe 10 times. What a shit choice on my part.
>>49411187
No, there's 2 main issues with edh
>1: tutors. There's not a single reason to not run every good tutor in your deck. I play damia and I have access to some of the best tutors. My play group is the same and so this 99 card singleton loses a lot of variance because of that. We're all spikes so the odds of lowering the powerlevel vs just changing games is rediculous
>2: the format is solved. Wizards keeps printing cards that are the best x for situations. What's the point to a format that strives for variance when every decks runs a stock list of the best cards in that colour plus a few that synergism with the commander (usually for an infinite combo) ex: You're in green? Rampant growth, farseek, explosive veg, skyshroud claim, etc etc, all are must haves. Sure makes deck construction and variance unimportant if every colour has a stock 20+ cards you just need to run because they're so good, not to mention auto includes likes Sol ring, mana crypt, mana Vault, etc to every single deck ever. And every archtype has best commanders.
In theory edh is a fantastic format, in practice it's not

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>>49410408
>>$3800 mountain bike
>Idk about that, however.
it's fun as fuck and i can go whenever my work schedule allows, which isn't always the case (almost never the case) with magic. i live right by a rail trail that runs by actual mtb trails 10 miles out either way, so it's ez-pz to make a fun day out of it.

>>49411556
Sounds cool as fuck man. Super jealous actually

Is it worth it to get chinaman cards? Going from xmage to paper is a lot of money, I can't afford Liliana of the Veil. Is it best to have most of the deck in question and only a few from the chinaman, or just go proxy entirely?

>>49412008
fakes have gotten really really good now, quite a few can pass light and bend tests and have very few quality errors
look in legacy threads to get an idea of how good they are and who does them, but yeah it's worth it

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Alright tg how shit is my sultai delirium brew?

Creatures
4x Vexing Sphinx
3x Grim Flayer
4x Sakura-Tribe Elder
3x Nighthowler
2x Tasigur, The Golden Fang
2x Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
1x Emtakul, The Promised End
1x Shriekmaw
3x Mindwarck Demon

Instants and Sorceries
3x Forbidden Alchemy
4x Thought Scour
4x Traverse The Ulvenwald
2x Abrupt Decay

Planeswalkers
2x Liliana, The Last Hope

Land
2x Island
2x Swamp
2x Forest
2x Watery Grave
2x Breeding Pool
2x Overgrown Tomb
3x Polluted Delta
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x MIsty Rainforest

And I still don't have a sideboard figured out yet so some advice here would be welcome.

>>49411125
Modern is full of staples that will keep their value long term. Standard cards that won't see modern play will drop when they rotate, and even if they don't if you pick them up while they're standard legal you're almost certainly losing money as you're paying more than they're worth.

Modern cards don't usually drop hard unless bannings that effect X deck happen.

>>49412008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70cbNJrs2Xw

>>49409900
And they all suck.

Anyone else been playing the Goryo's Vengeance list? I've played like 8 or 9 games with it and so far it's pretty good, only problem is that sometimes you just can't find the combo piece you need and get raped by aggro

>>49412518
I've been playing a different version of the no combo vengeance for a while. Mine's more grixis controlish with jace, tasigur, lilly, 4 bolts and some discard. I like it a lot, you don't loose to yourself, you're more flexible and the deck is still very explosive.

I hope you all bought your copies of Melira for when wizards doesn't mess with Infect and it starts running rampant so people start dedicating sideboard slots to fight it and the card becomes 20+ dollars
look at grafdigger's cage

>>49412878
>implying
Dude, I already sold my copies of Become Immense while it's high enough to get a soda or two with.

>>49394123
its because artifact lands are banned and standard league is full of plebs

>>49394097
>tg whats stopping anyone from going to these scg opens?
travel logistics and expenses, time off work, etc.

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Would this be good in eggs?

Man Wizards really dropped the ball with Delve, didn't they.

>2 cards banned in both Modern and Legacy
>Some shitty common creature is a Legacy allstar and sees Modern play
>Pump spell that reads +6/+6 for G, comparisons to Blazing Shoal could be made

Do you guys think Wizards will ever actually make a concerted effort to drive down card prices?

I mean we're getting to the point where standard decks cost almost as much as modern ones

>>49413023
>no trample

>>49413029
forgot tasigur
but yeah, they really fucked it up. they needed more colored symbols to balance the cards out, shit is fucking absurd

>>49413029
>>>2 cards banned in both Modern and Legacy
And Restricted in Vintage. I think that's a pretty important qualifier.

>>49413054
Tasigur is balanced.

Is it safe to assume that they will be reprinting some of the Shock Lands in the upcoming Modern Masters? I really want to pick up some cheaper Temple Gardens.

is there like a go to binder/portfolio for storing nice cards?

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>pptq in Sacramento
>playing infect
>match against jund and we go to game 3
>he has lethal on board and I swing for 11 infect with blighted agent
>he slaugter pacts
>judge is watching our game
>goes to his turn and he does dark confidant triggers
>judge: did you draw for turn
>opponent: yes
>judge: you just lost the game

Mfw

>>49413282
I would check Tolarian Community College's "report card" PDF on product reviews under the Binder/Portfolio section.
http://www.tolariancommunitycollege.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/TCCReportCardLive.pdf

>>49413312
thanks anon, getting into hoarding shiny cards again and didn't know where to start regarding safe storage

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So
Creatures entering the battlefield with ETB's themselves trigger this, right?

>>49413023
No.

When are you going to control that much total CMC's worth of artifacts? Eggs are low cost and disposable.

>>49413510
Eggs easily gets 6-10 artifacts out by midgame

>>49413436
Yes.
Doubles your Kitchen Finks, Spell Queller, and Thought-Knot Seer triggers.

On the other hand, it's a 4 mana rock that does absolutely nothing on its own, can't close out the game turn 4, and is an obscenely bad topdeck. Unless you can figure out a combo to instantly kill people with it, no deck in Modern is going to be playing Panharmonicon.

Guy, im crying right now.

Is there any way to reverse water damage to foil cards? I have no idea what happened but a deckbox i have got wet somehow and everything inside it looks close to ruined.

Im devastated ;_;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVsD6j3PCzk&ab_channel=AlphaInvestments

how long until this faggot gets robbed you figure?
I figure within a year or 2.

looking at well over 100k min haul for whomever does it.
you honestly gotta know its coming one of these days.

>>49413688
also, what did you destroy?
is it worth crying over?

>>49413541
so your plan is to run one creature, with no protection, onto an open field in a competitive modern environment?

>>49413720
If I knew where he lived I'd fucking do it
It'd be hard as shit though, not easy to move all those fuckin boxes at night, take like 5 people to do it and a big fuckin van

>>49413720
I dunno why but for some reason I can't stand watching past a minute of this guy. Not sure if it's the way he talks or what.

>>49413770
Just for morbid curiosities sake.

How would you do it?

Smash and grab?
Or
Silent and stealthy?

If it was me i would bring a cell jammer and hit the power off line.

Then with security systems offline and him having to use land line phones to dial 911 i would bust down the doors with large tools and KO any adults/teens.

Then take whatever the fuck i can get and gtfo.

>>49413720
>also, what did you destroy?
>is it worth crying over?
It was mostly a sentimental deck so most of the carda replacable. 2 foil Norns are probably dead tho, those and 2 non-foil karns are the most expensive things i had in it. My heart sank when i looked into the box, i still havent assesed the total damage but i know every cart is rediculously warped.

>>49413912
You've put a lot more thought into this that seems truly necessary.

>>49413720
Wow! What a genius! I'm totally going to buy 600 dollars of Khans of Tarkir boxes, and hold onto em for 5 years for a sweet 40 dollar profit!

Waaaaay way better then using that money to do this stupid thing called buying the fetches!

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>>49413912

>>49413912
Too much to smash and grab
Wait for him to come home at night, follow him into the house to keep security systems from going off, tie him up, then take everything and throw it into a van and drive off, switching the license plates with some stolen from a shopping mall after a few miles, then drop the van off at a location at least 50 miles away and drive it all back in multiple separate cars
like any non retarded person would do

>>49413923
You can at least get them into something of a playable state.

From what I've been able to find in discussions on the topic, a common tactic seems to be to take several sheets of blank white paper, put the cards in between the sheets, and then apply an iron (without steam) to the surface in order to safely dry them out and warm them into a malleable state. Then while the cards are still warm, put them into sleeves, take a large book and place the cards in the center of the pages, then put a heavy weight on top. Leave the cards inside the book, pressed by the weight, for a week or two.

Good luck.

>>49414015
This is true it is edgy but its also purely fantasy standpoint.
No i dont believe i am like a final fantasy character or some retard shit.
Its like imagining what screwing a girl you see on the street who you have never met is like.
Almost 0% chance that it will ever happen or you will attempt it.
Even less once you actually try it if you do at all.

Tl;dr dude deserves it. We want to play modern withouy having to take out a small loan each fucking time we want a new deck.

>>49414180
Someone's defensive.

>>49414117
Thanks man, ill try that when i get home. I might post the results if the thread is still up

>>49413730
I wasn't even who you were originally replying to, your statement about eggs not having enough cmc among artifacts on the field to facilitate easily playing the creature is just factually wrong so I put in my two cents

I agree it's not the best game plan, especially with mainboard ensnaring bridge

>>49414467
Oh hell I completely mixed up eggs and lantern control

You're probably right

>>49414223

why not get defensive when you're being attacked?

So if infect isn't fucked on Monday, can we expect to see
>hierarch spikes
>might? spikes
>inkmoth spikes
>pendelhaven spikes
>melira spikes

and if it IS fucked
>ad nauseam spikes
>angel's grace spikes
>urza land spikes
>grove spikes
>karn spikes
>ugin spikes

Best MTG podcasts?

>>49414589
Legacy breakfast

>>49414588
It's Monday in 7 days.

>>49413543
Not him but it stacks. Just a generic list with like 4 rhino etc seems silly for kitchen table. Not good enough for top8 stuff

>>49413030
Literally how is that even possible? They will print as many packs as people are willing to buy at 3¥ a piece. They will never stop printing those cards when they are in rotation. How does one become this retarded?

>>49413260
Bruh, it's like 10$ how are you even playing magic?

>>49413023
>Would this be good in eggs?
Does it draw me cards or enable a combo kill?
No, it's not good.

>>49414519
Literally all the guy did was respond to your post with a shitpost and you suddenly went on a tangent.

>>49414852

>you

Not me, but I had a bad night and I hate when people call people defensive like its an argument.

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>>49414893
sorry princess

>>49414588
Infect getting hit does not cause tron to become good. And boy do I wish it would being a blue mage, but it isnt a good deck at all in the current meta, even without infect.

>>49413436
might be cool with ramp and evoke creatures, but honestly i doubt it

What would need to happen for Modern to actually become interactive again

And I don't mean unban Splinter Twin so we have *one* interactive deck

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Seeing the top8 decklists made me laugh.

>>49413030

The new expeditions are supposedly a try to lower standard prices by taxing the rich faggots who like to pimp their decks.

>>49414709
It's $13 CAD because Canadaland.[/spoil] Not sure if I want to drop $58 on a playset when I already dropped that much on two Greater Auramancies. When is $5-6 each?

>>49416308
Interactive spells just need to be more powerful. Condition removals and counterspells have and always will be, a complete and utter shit.

I mean holy shit, it's better to drop 2cmc clock on table than sit with a remand in hand and hope it will someday do something.

>>49416715
there are always goofy decks in SCGQ top 8's for some reason

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>>49393376
>Crew X
>Requires X cumulative creature power

>Gideon Jura
>0 = Becomes a 6/6 creature

>Tap Gideon to activate Crew ability

>>49393769
Ive seen lists show up months before they top8 the event and only one anon rageposting that everyone said the deck was shit. Those people are our people and they hate it here.

>>49398372
No, there are several R costed spells that give your board firebreath and haste.

>>49410433
Its cheap because eveyone smells the ban comming. Its why the eldrazi deck was pennies after slaughtering every tourney it showed up in.

>>49411241
Bud, edh staples arent cheap at all. If i didnt pull 400 dollars worth of staples I wouldnt have nearly as many wins at the table because FUCK buying a fow, a wasteland, or a sneak attack even.

>>49412113
meme/10

>>49417146
What is the top right panel supposed to be? Some random part of the train?

>>49413175
>>49413054
>tcruise and dig are what wotc r&d thought would be balanced blue cantrips
>ponder and brainstorm are banned for being wrong
I can play dig and tcruise in commander in the cheapest poorman edh deck but if i had ponder or brainstorm i need 600$ worth of supporting lands. What drug is r&d taking because we need to test the water for trace amounts of it to keep the general population safe.

>>49413907
He's like Desolator, constantly shitting on other people with a smug sense of superiority. How anyone can not hate these kinds of Magic players is beyond me.

>>49418390
EDH is only as strong as your playgroup. Find people who haven't sunk as much money into it yet, or others who are sick of playing staples.

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>>49418719
>dude just play kitchen table, lmao

>>49418448
acceleration pedal.

>>49418719
I enjoy high level edh play tyvm. Nothing beats the fun play that these retardedly expensive cards gives, the only problem is they shouldnt be that expensive. My sneak attack allows for hilarious interactions but it shouldnt cost more than 20 dollars. Wotc needs to start putting a lid on these overpriced cards.

>>49418770
It's EDH. There's no meta to the format except for your playgroup.

>>49419007
>Wotc needs to start putting a lid on these overpriced cards.

Don't worry, you might see it in Amonkhet's very own Masterpiece series.