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Invert the Stereotype...

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Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)
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>>49381892
you mean like an angler fish or your mom?
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>>49381892
I'd fuck that lizard guy.
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>>49381945
It's a twist on the usual notion of monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.
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Magical realm
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>>49382070
Sounds more like mmo's. Specifically wow.
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>>49382180

Kindly reduce yourself to −10 hp.
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>>49381892
I think i'm going to steal this.
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Why the asinine exaggeration OP?

Hyper masculine women and hyper feminine men. That's what your asking for essentially, rule 63 applied to generic fantasy.
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Sounds like an Amazonian setting with male subs.
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>>49382231
Triggered
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>>49381892
>Invert the Stereotype

Except there are many natural species in which females are larger and easily overpower males. Females of many spider species end copulation by devouring the male.

It's only really a stereotype with humans.
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>>49382296
I've never seen it done before. Usually, it's like I said earlier,
>monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.
But the other way around? Never. People are too afraid of "ugly chicks" to include actual monstrous females in their monster races.
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>>49382365
actually among land mammals larger males are the vast majority. however it is true that it is easier to make females of most species behave in a violent fashion than males because of their maternal instinct, so it is likely that more people are killed by female wild animals than males.
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>>49382029
I'd fuck that lizard guy in the ass while letting his beautiful sister fuck me in the ass with her 8 inch clitoris.
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>>49381892
Gears of War did this. No joke. The gigantic Berzerkers are the only females. They literally have to tie them down for mating to occur.

It's actually subtly pointed at in the games, since any Zerker is refered to as a she when one appears.
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>>49382379
what about hags?
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>>49382438
I'd be too worried she'd accidentally devour my head with that gaping razor-filled maw of hers.
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>>49381892
Bad news because then their males look like standard males of common races, and you end up with tons of dead common race men who fucked a nine-foot-tall horror of teeth and claws.

Normally, when the females are the women-looking types, common race guys can bone them and be safe. Common race guys will bone the monstrous ones as well though, so bad things happen.
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>>49382365
I think he's saying though it's not just size, like the females are huge and the guys tiny. He's saying the females are also horrific and monster-looking.

So the better analogy in this case is like a normal human guy and his gf is bigger and stronger than him, like with some animals. But she also is a spider of that size.
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>>49382379

Amazons are worth looking at for ideas. Or look at Glorantha, the troll females are the more powerful of the two sexes in that setting.

It shouldn't be too hard to find examples of fringe characters/races in fantasy to create a setting where that's the norm.
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>>49382480
Think of Hulk and She-Hulk. The male is a massive inhuman brute, while the female is basically a regular human with different skin color.

That's how things usually are depicted for monstrous races.

But you basically NEVER see it the other way around, with nearly-human males and monstrous females.
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>>49382525
I understand that that's what I'm agreeing with you. The other guy was just like "Plenty of animals the female is bigger and stronger."

But in this case the female may be bigger and stronger, not neccessarily, but either way she'd be horrendous to look at and disturbing biology, while the male is just Fabio with a different skin color.
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>>49382296

>exaggeration
>asinine

No such thing you boring fuck
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>>49382460

> you end up with tons of dead common race men who fucked a nine-foot-tall horror of teeth and claws

You have 0 imagination.

Congratulations.
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>>49382649
>>49382663

Troll harder
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>>49382787

You first.
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>>49381892
Sounds like the Zuul from sots.
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>>49381892
Reminded me of this.
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>>49382942

hehehe

alien culture shock is always fun
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I know exactly what it can be.

You know those scorpion centaurs you see occasionally in fantasy? they were also in mesopotamian mythology?

there you go. the males can be studly bronze men with big hard phallic stingers from the waist up, while the females can be basically giant scorpion monsters with many eyes and terrifying fangs with which to protect their massive egg broods (and to eat careless mates).
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>>49381892

This image fills me with so much joy.
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>>49382942
sauce?
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>>49383025
google.

Literally 1 second.
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Yeah whatever. What if both the male and female of fantasy species were qtp2ts instead?
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>>49383393
That'd be Elves.
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>>49383416
Right, now extend that to all monster and beast races.
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>>49383457
how boring.
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>>49381892
>You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)
>Not having the hot dad look be the midway between young adult and wise elder
>not having the wise elder do a complete 180 and come out looking like a bear mode mountain man-esque older dad with salt n' pepper hair

I'm completely flaccid OP, I hope you're proud.
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>>49381892
I feel like this would lead to a lot of other races meeting the men and assuming the entire race worked like elves.
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>>49383059
Google won't tell us whether or not it's worth the 1 second (as though that were all it actually takes under all circumstances). This isn't /a/, you can act like you're not a dick when someone wants to know about something someone has posted, or at least you should be able to, or you should be able to get out.
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>>49383537
That "bear mode" idea is actually pretty clever.
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>>49383537
Maybe they're bear people.
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>>49383025
Cassiopeia Quinn.
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>>49381892
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>>49381892
>Not having the races just look like whatever you want them to look like and what makes you happy for worldbuilding

Go crazier, have them start life as giant hormonal cyclones of claws and death, then chill out to MILF/DILFs later in life. Or do the opposite. Who gives a fuck.

One of my favorite old homebrew races were essentially perfect predator regenerating mantis things that lived in a helljungle of poison and acid. They were so vibrantly alive that upon death they had a really high chance to spontaneously reanimate as intelligent undead, where they'd wander out of the helljungle and into the actual cities of the race, holding a cordon around said helljungle. They were the coldly logical smart guys of the setting, since they didn't have any instincts or urges to get in the way.
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>>49383945

That's really fucking cool.
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>>49384008
Steal for your own use, anon, I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want it stolen and used.
They also went from chameleon camoflauge to bone pale white, communicated via complicated clicks or writing due to being mute, and had a thriving "transhumanism" augmentation deal going on due to a lack of internal systems to fuck up.
Nothing like the lorekeeping engineer the party's looking for being a seven foot undead murdermantis with self-made chainsaw arms.

So basically, go fucking wild, but then develop your ideas. You want a race of creepy dudes with barn owl faces and horns? Drop them in, then figure out what they find creepy, and how they monetize being unsettling. It's unlikely they're ENTIRELY about being creepy, what the fuck else do they do? Literally Street Sharks? Parasitic electrical patterns that overwrite their host's mental processes? Flawed von neumann drones that fucked off from loading all the resources on the planet into their mining ships because someone told them about truth, justice, and the american way?
Go wild.
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>>49383911
Pretty dope
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>>49382029
I'd ask that monstergirl for permission to court her brother.
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>>49382296
>Hyper masculine women and hyper feminine men

Wow, it's like you didn't even read the OP!
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>>49381892
don't you eat this pieeeeeee
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>>49383537
Isn't that basically the Sword of the Stars races, the Tarkas?
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>>49381892
Opened this thread looking for fetish porn.
Left with basically nothing.

Not sure if proud or disappointed.
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>>49381892
Here's one:
Dhampirs are more monstrous than any Vampire. When a Vampire fell in love with a human paladin of Hades and the paladin abandoned his oaths to become her husband, Hades cursed vampires so that all unions between humans and vampires will produce a Dhampir, a horrible monster that tears apart its mother upon birth, tries to kill the father and hunts undead with a savage hatred and fury but otherwise behaves like a typical omnivorous beast.
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>>49382296
>what your asking
Opinion disregarded.
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>>49383911
Oddly, this doesn't invert anything. ESPECIALLY when it comes to avian species. There are a ton of male birds that are prettier and more fabulous than their female counterparts.
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>>49384283
>Steal for your own use, anon
>implying I need your permission

I really like the idea but I have no use for it in any of my stories or anything I want to make.

It's fucking cool as hell though and has a lot of fun stuff to be used.
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>>49385311
Fuck you, you're getting permission to use it anyway, I got piles of the shit everywhere and it's getting in the way of my despair collection.

Back to the thread topic, though, how about a sorta-khajit dealio where the phenotypes for "Fuzzy Adorable Thing With A Verbal Tic", "Sexy Fuzzy Nearhuman With Animal Ears" and "Literally A Deathclaw" are all part of the same race and none of them breed true? (e.g., a pair of fuzzy parents producing a not deathclaw, or deathclaws having a brood of the tiny ones).
What interesting cultural notes could you do with a setup like that? Religious fanatics? Phenotype wars? Chill motherfuckers teamworking it out? Squads of magic artillery little guys riding five to a deathclaw and chirping death across the battlefield?
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>>49381892
A party of well-reserved and wise magic users attempt to quell the shenanigans of a completely 'that guy' ranger.
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>>49385590

>Fuck you, you're getting permission to use it anyway

Well thank you, faggot <3
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>>49385718
You're welcome, you flagrant assmaster.
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>>49385776

It's refreshing to see such politeness on the internet you shitbucket
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>>49381892
I'm totally playing a bard that tries to copulate with everything we come across in this setting.
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>>49381892
>There is only one way to deal with such a monster
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>>49381892

...what about a reversing 'you fools! I was sacrificing whole villages at a time to prevent a worse evil!' ? Like, a dude does saintly deeds in the name of forestalling something even better?

I'm having trouble coming up with some idea off the top of my head.
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>>49381892
>would play
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>>49386065

Because off the bat that sounds boring, dull, and undramatic.

Doin a comedy thing then sure.

Lich trying to stop the coming of the anti-undead god by undoing all the "end times" signs that would signal her arrival.
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>>49386095
That character was a homo, right?
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>>49386126

Sure?

Does it matter?
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I'd hit it.
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>>49386151
Nah just wondered. cus i stopped reading naruto a while after he appeared but I reckon ed that his mode of dress and tendency to talk about Naruto's dick meant he was gay

spolered for animu talk
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>>49385776
>>49385898
Can't you dickwaffles just kiss already?
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>>49386126
>>49386151
>>49386161
This is his wife.
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>>49386126
>>49386151
>>49386161
This is his son.
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>>49386166

>implying we haven't bein makin out for 4 posts already
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>>49386168
Prolly has a dick
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>>49382942
>But hey, this controller's a lot easier to use with more fingers!
>still has four fingers on each hand
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>>49386168
>>49386175

Doesn't prove shit.
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>>49386175
You mean his wife's son.
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>>49382449
Evolutionarily, why would that happen? The "have to tie them down to mate" thing I mean.

Seems sort of self-defeating
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>>49386186
>you need five fingers to use a controller

wut
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>You heroes defeated the Brood Mother!? I thought I was done for!
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>>49386206
Most likely Mantis style 'They eat the mate once they're done'
So its not the Snu-Snu you're trying to survive, its the cuddling afterwards.
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>>49382379
>monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.
I've never seen that before.
If you're talking about monstergirl settings, either there is no male form and the girls are -tan like personifications that replace the normal monsters in a setting or the monsterboys are just as human and pretty as the monstergirls.

I'm serious this never happens, it's only women of already humanoid races looking more attractive than their male counterparts and only in MMOs.
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>>49386354
The Pirate Captain in our Pathfinder campaign has this picture as her Goblin cohort. They attempt to out-whore each other and the Goblin constantly wins.

It's not as magicalrealmy as you'd think, shit's just funny.

>"Y'need to stop whorin' on my ship! Into the brig!"
>They lock him up
>Come back later and he's counting silvers and coppers he made
"They still fit through the bars, captain!"
>She locks him up again, this time in a crate with tiny slits for air holes.
>They come back later
>He's counting new coin
"Your men aren't very well endowed, cap."
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>>49381892
What happened /tg/? I expected people to reply with -4 strength and then proceed to image dump muscle girls
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>>49382222
Go away man
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>>49386543
2009 called, it wants you to let go and forget about it.
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>>49386655
2009 has terrible self esteem issues
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>>49381892
I'd rather skip the monstrous lady and instead have a race of nothing but DILFs, ala the Asari. Passive mind control to always look studly.
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>>49386402
It's mostly an MMO thing. Probably the worst offenders are trolls in WoW. Mmale trolls are humanoid but obviously inhuman looking, with a hunched over, lanky build with long gangly legs and arms, long noses, and prominent tusks. Female trolls are pretty much blue-skinned humans with small tusks. Female trolls actually looked more like their male counterparts in the beta, but got changed due to being "too ugly".

You see the same thing occasionally outside MMOs, but usually not to that extend. Female humanoid monsters tend to be "prettier" than their male counterparts, and often have female human sexual traits, even when they don't make sense (such as having breasts, or at least the appearance of breasts, on a lizardwoman).
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>>49381892
>Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

Isn't 'Big men, tiny women' already the inversion of the stereotype biologically? Most insect species have females being bigger and scarier than males. Predator does too, IIRC.
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>>49386711
It's not just MMOs, it's visual media in general. video games, and RPGs moreso because they need to make all the armor models for characters. Because sexy chicks rake in cheap attention, most devs just say fuck it, scale up the human model and slap some horns on it.

To many people including monstrous females in your game would be shooting yourself in the foot, so that you become better at shooting yourself in the foot.

It's sad, but most people don't give a fuck about artistic vision, immersion or dignity.
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>>49386717
As mentioned above, it depends on the animals. For example, with mammals males are usually bigger but with reptiles and insecst, females are usually bigger.

But yeah, Yautja (ie. the aliens from the Predator movies) females are supposed larger than males, and just as ugly. We've never seen one in the movies, because only the males go hunting for trophies. It's supposed to be a courtship ritual of sorts. In order to get a mate, the male Yatja has to prove that he's badass enough to hunt down a dangerous creature alone and with (from their point of view) minimal tech.
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>>49386711
>>49386797
I recall there were surveys, or perhaps just player numbers themselves, that showed across the board preference for more standard beautiful female characters. Player sex, country, game, none of that made much of a difference. I think the country most of all did, but nothing beyond changes in ratios, not actual overall preference.

MMO's especially need to cater to audiences day in and day out, both in the old and new revenue models. It's incredibly unsurprising they stick to the cliche of "monstrous males, painted women" because of that. The unwashed masses just have incredibly plebish tastes, and attempts to give them something outside the norm have routinely never done well.
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>>49386797
You're vastly overstating this.
Even the lizrds with boobs aren't 'sexy chicks', they're given mammalian sexual characteristics so the player can easily tell them apart from the men without having to remember whatever dimorphic trait the develop came up with.
It doesn't really hamper artistic vision or immersion because it's fantasy, it's fueled by camp.
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>>49382451
Hags don't have a "male" they rape human men or they implant their baby in a human female.
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>>49386538
>You men aren't very well endowed, cap

Kek.
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>>49382438
>8 inch clitoris

Try 3 foot long, prehensile, ridged,studded, a knot, and four testicles each as large as a basketball.
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>>49388182
...are you trying to make this prospect worse or better? Because I'm telling you it's working!
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>>49381892
Congratulations, you just invented the Locust from Gears of War!
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>>49386206
>>49386390
You also have to keep in mind that locust have been genetically fucked with/engineered on at least one occasion.

Two if you count lambency
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>>49386186
She had 3 before.
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>>49388000
Complaining about sexism earns you good boy points.
If there's no sexism or the sexism has been fixed you pretend otherwise.
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>>49388000
but you don't see many scantily clad lizard men with crotch bulges or w/e.
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>>49389049
That would be too much of a male power fantasy, anon.
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>>49389049
Probably because feminists declared buff boy butts to be #RAPE and nerds are pussies so they tried to appease women in an attempt to be liked
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>>49381892
Cool, wish the art was a little better
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>>49389049
The lizardwomen aren't scantily clad either.
The lizardmen have obvious male sexual characteristics, just not anything as quasi-pornographic as a crotch bulge.
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>>49386390

Mantises don't actually do that in the wild, though. It only happens if they're starving, like if they're in captivity too long with a clueless researcher trying to get them to fuck.
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>>49389185
Jerkoff.
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>>49386402
>I've never seen that before.

Are you kidding? It's been a thing since forever in all sorts of media.
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>>49383911
Btw, birds have cloacas, so there isn't any hole difference.

>>49389049
>he doesn't know about the scalies.
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>>49389528
I would, but pretty girls are #RAPE too
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>>49389584
Some birds do have dongs.
Ducks, for example.
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>>49386095
>>49386168
>neither of them have pupils
In a setting where the focus on pupils and eye superpowers is so strong, that's pretty fucking weird.
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>nobody posted that oglaf comic
>nobody has even mentioned oglaf.
I'm proud of you, /tg/.
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>>49389772
Too lazy to do it.
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>>49382070
So human males are like blobby chicks you wouln't fuck?
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>>49382231
You implying this isnt clearly magical realm?
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>>49389816

Daily reminder: It's only magical realm if it's being forced on somebody who's not into it.
Nobody's being forced to read this thread, you can simply hide it and move on.
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>>49389816
This is only magical realm thread I've seen in months that appeals to raging homos like me.
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>>49389830
Daily reminder: its magical realm when its fetish stuff for the sake of being fetish stuff.

Which is clearly the case here.
Also stop being so defensive, just because someone called out your nagical realm doesnt mean he's going "REEE get off my board".
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>>49389893
>its magical realm when its fetish stuff for the sake of being fetish stuf

No, that's not how it works. I'm here because you're an idiot promoting an inaccurate definition of a /tg/ meme.

Said inaccurate definition leads to countless stupid threads shitting up my board, all about "hey guys is it magical realm if..." and "how do I do this without it being magical realm" and other horseshit which could be easily solved without having to make a thread about it, by simply recognizing that it's only magical realm if you're being That Guy with your fetishes.
Fuck you, and fuck your sloppy misuse of the term magical realm.
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>>49389893
Magical realm is basically forcefully injecting your fetish onto other players who are not in on the thing.

Plus, not all things relating to sex, sexuality or etc. is automatically magical realm. They are part of most living creatures, but they usually are not paid attention to because A. they are not important for the game. B. people are awkward/uncomfortable about them.
Reversing the cliche of "male is exotic/beastly, female is akin to human" is all fine in my books, since even in nature there are freakier sexual dimorphism ( ex. angler fish )
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>>49384715
>Opened this thread looking for fetish porn.
>Left with basically nothing.
>Not sure if proud or disappointed.
Here is some fetish porn animation for you, anon.
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>>49389717
I wouldn't fuck a duck unless it was drawn by Claudio Sciarrone, anyways.
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>>49381892
I miss WST
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>>49389523
Did the researchers not think to feed them or something?
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>attractive humanoid males of a species with monstrous female counterparts is magical realm
What, and the reverse isn't?

I'd be more concerned about the TV-Tropes-style "LOL LOOK AT ME I'M IMITATING A POPULAR TREND BUT IN REVERSE, AREN'T I CLEVER" than any kind of fetishyness. No idea is intrinsically fetishistic; only the way in which it is handled can be fetishistic. Being tied up is a fetish, but the presence of tied-up kidnapping victims in your campaign isn't necessarily fetishistic. Tentacles are a fetish, but putting up your players against a kraken or beholder isn't being a /d/M, not even if tentacles do happen to be YOUR fetish.
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>>49390515
Pretty much. Same thing happened to wolves. They dont actually have alphas and betas and shit.
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>>49389830
Nah, it's magical realm as fuck.
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>>49389985
>>49390139
>That Guys get triggered when called out on their Magical Realms

Sage
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>>49390531
I agree. The idea itself is intrinsically overly simple baby shit, but you can tell from OP's post that more than that it really is fetishistic in the way it is presented.

In Short, the issue here isn't the topic but that OP's a faggot.
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>>49390546
Good work, anon! You're helping with making a previously useful term completely meaningless!
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>>49390546

Read the comic, it's not the Whizzard's magical realm just because it's a sex thing, it's his magical realm because it's a weird sex thing his players are NOT into and he keeps doing it after they tell him to stop.

OP would be magical realming you if he was forcing this thread on you, but you do have the option to hide it. People who are in this thread chose to be here and participate in OP's fetishy nonsense thread, which means it's not a Realm.

But we can all agree on >>49390588 I think.
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>>49390568
>Newfag doesnt know 4chan rules or what a magical realm is
What a surprise.
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>>49390640
Nah, don't try to "take back" magical realms to stop people from calling you out. It was always just obvious fetishes pushed into games and it always will be.
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>>49390568
>announcing sage
reported :^)
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>>49390687
Announcing reports is against the rules.

I hope this shit thread gets deleted soon, it's clearly not accomplishing anything.
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>>49390659
Only newfags say newfag, if you lurked more you'd know that.
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>>49390718
That's the joke; anon. I didn't actually report that post.
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>>49390652
That's the comic, not the use of the phrase as it is known. Stop trying to change the meaning of the phrase into something to deflect criticism of you pushing your fetish into shit.
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>>49390718
>I hope this shit thread gets deleted soon,

It sucks, too, because it had some potential there for a minute, what with biology discussion and all. Until the blue-nosed retards showed up to shout "magical realm!" at everybody.

>>49390740

That's the point, nobody's pushing their fetish on anyone here. You knew damn well what OP was on about when you clicked the link.
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>>49382231
Joke's on you, I'm a chevalier.
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>>49390729

Wow, what a faggot newfag
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>>49390652
That isn't what the idea of magical realm is though.

On 1d4chan for instance:

>An individual's magical realm is the domain of their sexual fetishes, especially in relation to roleplaying games. When a game starts developing or introducing elements of the player or GM's fetishes (either deliberately or accidentally), it could be said to be entering that individual's magical realm (or that the players/party are doing so).
>When used of a work (say, a setting or pre-made adventure), the implication is that the author either let their fetishes bleed into the work sufficiently to make it very obvious what gets them off, or, more rarely, apparently created the work entirely for the purposes of fapping or schlicking.

What the players or readers think of it is entirely unrelated to whether it is Magical Realm or not.
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>>49389985
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>>49381892

If that's what you're into, than do it.
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>>49390770
I agree, that newfag calling that guy newfag really is a newfag.
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>>49390784
>than
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>>49390761
What ticked people off was magical realmers refusing to accept that it is still magical realm, attempting to incorrectly "correct" others on it.
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>>49390777

>citing 1d4chan as a source

Man that makes regular argumentam ad dictionarum look good

>>49390835

>you started it by responding to me!
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>>49390855
I'm using it as a neutral third party anon, while you have obvious bias in this matter.
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>>49389538
But you can't name any.
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>>49390531
The reverse barely exists.
It's a total meme.
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>>49390531
>No idea is intrinsically fetishistic; only the way in which it is handled can be fetishistic
Well, looking at OP image, I can tell it's being handled pretty fetishitic right now.
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>>49390855
So you have nothing to support your argument at all then, other than not wanting to be correctly labeled as Magical Realm.
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>>49390919
from the mmo wildsar

http://i.imgur.com/1Io0Vyi.jpg this is a draken male

http://pre12.deviantart.net/d192/th/pre/f/2014/028/1/5/15d832c0e81503f7e6d530c5c167d8be-d743y7j.jpg this is a female
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>>49390790

Wait...what if we're all newfags?
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>>49390901

Off the top of my head, try that lousy Planet of the Apes remake, where every male is big hulking ape monster, and every female is a a hot sexy chick with a funny nose.

>>49390863

Yeah, I have a bias, against stupid definitions of terms that fuck up my /tg/. 90% of the stupid "is this/how do i not magical realm?" threads can be answered by telling them "talk to your players. If they're cool, it's not magical realm."

>tfw use an assassin vine and player goes all "MAGICAL REALM! Tentacles are your magical realm I got you LOLOLOLO"

>tfw tentacles are boner-killer for me
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I actually really like this concept, but it took a while to figure out why it seemed so familiar.
>>49381892
I think a bigger issue is that OP isn't even an original faggot. The text is directly and entirely copied from some guy's tumblr.
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>monster girl thread called out as magical realm
>posters don't give a fuck and ignore it

>monster boy thread called out as magical realm
>thread derailed by arguments on the definition of the term

stop being so defensive, fags, you're making all gays look bad.
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>>49390966

I'm not even remotely into monster boys. I just hate the misuse of Magical Realm to mean "anything remotely sexual ever" and will gladly derail any thread I see where idiots do that shit.
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>>49390947
You got rightly called out on being absolutely fucking magical realm and then you tried to lie and subvert the definition of it to fit your own, personal, biased desires.

This sets of /tg/ in a firestorm of pointing out that no, you are incorrect. /tg/ fucking knows what is and isn't magical realm.

Lying about your motives is shameful and it is how things got to this point.
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>>49390947
It's a literal meme term. you're a fucking autist for caring about the definition of internet slang. Specially when you have literally nothing to back up your argument.

>>tfw use an assassin vine and player goes all "MAGICAL REALM! Tentacles are your magical realm I got you LOLOLOLO"
>playing with people who browse 4chan
your own fault.
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>>49390987
>Misuse

There you go again. This thread is magical realm as fuck, pointing that out is not whatsoever misusing the term.
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>>49390987
>I just hate the misuse of Magical Realm to mean "anything remotely sexual ever"
>misuse
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>>49390947
>tfw use an assassin vine and player goes all "MAGICAL REALM! Tentacles are your magical realm I got you LOLOLOLO"

A-anon...I think you are just dealing with faggots.

I don't think the "accurate" use of magical realm is the problem, it's that you are playing with faggot children.
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Testing, ignore this.
My phone's roaming ip landed on a bad one.
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>>49390987
>Misuse

No sense of irony at all here. The threads get derailed because you try to "correct" people with something that is blatantly incorrect.
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>>49391012

Nobody's forcing this thread on you, dude. OP didn't trick you into joining it and then spring a bunch of weird fetish bullshit on you after you got invested. You knew what it was when you clicked, don't start clutching your pearls and crying now.

>>49391019

It's not just that, it's all the stupid threads on /tg/ about magical realms, 90% of which are not even a fucking problem, they just need to talk to their players, because it's not fucking magical realm in the first place if everyone's cool with it.
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>board police derail a nonsexual thread because monstrous females make their dick hard

Fuck, the questfags were right
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>>49391049
>something that is blatantly incorrect.

Read the comic again.
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>>49391074
The comic is irrelevant. We are talking about the term and idea, not the comic.
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>>49391053
>Nobody's forcing this thread on you, dude
this argument again

calling it magical realm doesn't mean people want you to "DELET THIS" thread.
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>>49391053
It's not about whether the thread is being pushed on anyone. I don't really care about OP's faggoty position. The issue here is your misuse of the term Magical Realm, when someone else uses it correctly. You attack them and try to change what Magical Realm means because it hurts your feelings.
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>>49391058
>females make their dick hard
>females
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>>49391088

And I'm bitching about definition creep ruining my /tg/ with stupid "magical realm" threads.
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>>49391058
>>49391058
>Nonsexual
>(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)


Just fucking wrong there anon.

Not that it matters, the issue is some thin skinned fag that is trying to force his own special personal definition of Magical Realm on others because he doesn't want to be called out on his own Magical Realming.
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>>49391124
Sorry that it hurts your feeling to know you are using a term wrong.
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>>49391138
it's slang my dude
it doesn't have a fixed definition in the first place.
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>>49391138
Your definition of Magical Realm is wrong.
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>>49391161
Anon, you are the thin skinned fag with the wrong definition here, given your offtopic whining and pejoratives based around protecting your fragile sensibilities.
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>>49391171
>n-no u
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>>49391171
So you say a game where this thread's OP idea happens in the way it is expressed here:

>Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

>(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)

Isn't Magical Realm? Look at the god damn presentation.
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>>49391161
Why do thin skinned assholes like you even come to 4chan?
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>>49391180

Mine agrees with the original comic, and prevents stupid threads. Yours disagrees with the comic, and causes stupid threads. Ergo, you're wrong.

>>49391174

You've got a point, though. I admit I am a grumpy motherfucker today, and was spoiling for an argument over whatever trivial shit happened to be around, and this is it.

>>49391199

Depends: Does he spring it on them suddenly, without telling them upfront about it? Do the players tell him to stop that shit? And does he continue doing it anyway?
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>>49391199
>Oh no, my feelings are hurt by anything remotely sexual.
>Better misuse terms and cry when im corrected!
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>>49391192
>no u

Uh huh.

You have nothing to back up what you are saying. Even in the original comic, the Whizzard himself is the one that labels his pissy tree forest his "Magical Realm". Whether the guys were all for it or against it, it is still Magical Realm.
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>>49381892
>twentysomething
too old
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>>49391058
Fuck, you're right.
We will never escape the whiners.
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>>49391215
>Mine agrees with the original comic

Except no, it doesn't. Whether they enter the Magical Realm or not, it is still a Magical Realm. Re-read the comic. It disagrees with you.
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>>49391220

But the Whizzard specifically does that WHILE being That Guy with his fetishes.
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>>49391230
Nah, this has nothing to do with the content of the thread, this is an argument about some guy that wants his connotation to be the denotation when it clearly isn't. Not in the comic, not in the common usage, not anywhere.
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>>49391220
Even by that definition, this shit aint magical realm.

Fucking neo-sjws getting triggered by literally everything.
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>>49391243
He says it before there is any reaction. It is magical realm because it is his fetish pushed into the game, whether people are into that doesn't change it from being Magical Realm.
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>>49391247
It has everything to do with whiners refusing to ever stop whining.

Fuck any chance of things being good, better whine.
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>>49391251
>(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)

This thread and concept could be phrased in a way that isn't magical realm, but the way it is presented makes the Magical Realm obvious.
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>>49391261

You're missing the entire point of the comic strip, and grasping at the surface details instead.
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>>49381892
>The males all line up in sexually alluring poses to attract the brutish alpha female for mating
>She grabs the one she likes the most and smashes it to fucking kibble and devours its brutalized corpse as part of their mating process
>All the other males walk away with lonely dejected sighs to re-apply their makeup and wait for the next mating season
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>>49391269
You're whining.
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>>49391280
>Oh no, the point i made works against me, better backtrack to justify my easily triggered nature
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>>49391303
Turnabout and all that.
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>>49391284
I fear you may actually be autistic, anon.

You are incapable of seeing the usage of Magical Realm and the way the meme of Magical Realm evolved from the comic strip.

If you enter a world full of "twinky boys" and the wise elders are described as being "hot dads" then it is magical realm as fuck.
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>>49391315
What are you talking about? You claimed this isn't magical realm, and I quoted to point out a very magical realm presentation.

Please explain how it isn't magical realm.
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>>49391335
>Evolving language excuses my shitposting over how triggered i am
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>Magical Realm: (noun); Domain of an individual's sexual preferences and fetishes.
>i.e.: "Craig's magical realm is graphically slaughtering elf women."

>Magical Realm: (verb); forcing your fetishes into a traditional games against the wishes of other players.
>i.e.: "I hate it when Craig magical realms his creepy elf girl snuff shit into our games."

Traditional Games: A magical realm where anonymous strangers make up terms and then argue about their proper use.
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>>49381892
Make your magical realm less obvious next time.
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>>49391280
This.

>OP uses the terms "pretty-boy," "twinky," and "Hot Dad"
>OP's pic is of some girly haired, make up wearing, dsl-having, spandex with chest-revealing hole wearing fuccboi

I'm all for Magical Realms, and even the occasional thread about them, but anybody denying this threads purpose wasn't pure fetish talk is delusional.

This topic could have been interesting and nonsexual if the OP hadn't used those terms and used a better pic as an example, but as it stands his point was to stimulate our dicks, not our minds.
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>>49391348
That shit is extraordinarily tame.
Put on your big boy pants and deal with themes even children can, call me back when it is piss and scat tier.
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>>49391367

Huh. I'm fine with this.
Put it on 1d4chan, since the guy upthread thinks it's a reliable source.
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>>49391388
Doesn't matter whether someone's magical realm is maids or shitting dicknipples, magical realm is magical realm.
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>>49391375
>My dick was stimulated, i refuse to participate constructively
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>>49391405
It actually reallt does, since literally evwrything is a fetish and literally any description is fetishistic to the right people.
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>>49391375
I don't really have an issue with a magical realm itself, I just hate people trying to claim it isn't or claiming magical realm has a special definition that excludes them.
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>>49391424
>It's only magical realm if it isn't my fetish
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>questfags foresaw this
>Just keeps happening
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>>49391424
It's presentation, not subject matter.
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>>49391438
That is almost the exact opposite of what he said.

Who taught you to read, bizzaro superman?
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>>49391443
Foresaw what?
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>>49391455
Subject matter is super important as any presentation can be construed as sexual if you want to read it that way.
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>>49391460
He claimed that describing your fantasy race as having all the men being "sexy, prettyboy twinks" isn't magical realm because it is "tame".
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>>49391472
This exact discussion and the cause of said discussion.
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>>49391483
Which is an entirely different conversation track to your comment, yes.
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>>49382029
>>49382438
>these plebs don't want to BE the lizard guy
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>>49391497
>This exact discussion and the cause of said discussion.

...Grammar and Diction?
No one here gives a damn about Magical Realm itself.
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>>49391388
since when were you under the impression that magical realm is a term that only applies to hardcore fetishes?
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>>49391584

It becomes less useful if it's not, since everything is a fetish to somebody.

>post mapmaking thread, with a grid overlaid
>"stop your magical realming, geometry anon!"
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>>49391559
Well, if it means I can get with the lizard women...
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>>49391637
No you idiot, it means you get with the human men
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>>49391584
Since that is how it originated and the only way the term could be useful?
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>>49391624
>>49391693
>useful
it's a meme you dip
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>>49391624
But in this case, it is being used correctly.
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>>49391708
>Fuck descriptive language, i just want to meme
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>>49391728
I agree, that's why that guy that claims magical realm doesn't apply to this thread is so ridiculous.

He wants to destroy descriptive language because he doesn't want it to describe him.
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>>49391715
Nah, this is some extraordinarily tame shit.

And as we've gone over, the word becomes meaningless if you use it for tame shit.
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>>49391728
it was always a meme
you being autistic about it won't stop it being a meme

won't stop people using it for everything either
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>>49391748
Claiming this vanilla shit is magical realm destroys the purpose and meaning of magical realm.
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>>49391754
True, people like
>>49391748
Will always use the term for anything they percieve as sexual, regardless of anything else.
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>>49391766
Having a race of nothing but gay twinks is magical realm as fuck.
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>>49391810

What's that got to do with this thread?
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>>49391786
>Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

>(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)

Obviously intended to be sexual.
It's a magical realm
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>>49391830

Eh. It might be OP's fetish, or alternately it may be just that OP's parodying the inverse trope, because that's NOT his fetish, and some media pushes it on him.
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>>49391863

But we all know it's his fetish anyway
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>>49390919
sociologically speaking, everything is a meme
fantasy races are a meme
nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth an claws are a meme
pretty boys are a meme
body paint is a meme
she's been passed on so many times that your mom is basically a meme too
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>>49391870
We really don't though.
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>>49391830
>Everything sexual is magical realm

That means everything, ever is a magical realm.
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>>49391877
You're a meme
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>>49391934
No it doesn't. That is a false argument. Stop your slippery slope.
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>>49391978

>Pretending geometry anon never happened
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>>49391989
Some things are more blatantly and obviously fetishistic than others, the way OP put this thread was very blatant in his magical realm.
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>>49391375

Er......
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>>49391978
Oh, you just dont know how deep the hole goes. That explains everything.
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>>49392054
No, I know about tiles and such but don't try to use outliers to steer the norm.
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>>49392025
Not particularly.
That shit barely even scraped "tittilating" on the lewdometer
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>>49392097
The word is for outliers though. The really degenerate ones.
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>>49390942
>An in game screencap
>fanart
Nice cherry picking. Other than the hunched-over posture, you can make a female pretty similar to that male.
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>>49382379

Oh you must have never been to the underdark
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>>49390944
You are enlightened
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>>49382365
>Females of many spider species end copulation by devouring the male
That tends to be heavily overplayed by pop culture.

Also,
>not being diving bell spider master race
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>>49381892
>literally word-for-word copypasta of a popular Tumblr post and the image attached to it
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>>49381892
>literally word-for-word copypasta of a popular Tumblr post and the image attached to it

>>49391012

Dude, it's the same guy who goes around pretending to be triggered by the word "BBEG". He's discovered that rigid language policing of community language gets people buttmad, and is gleefully exploiting this trolling lever.
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>>49394863
So just report him when he incorrectly uses magical realm in the future?

Or hell, just report this entire thread for being tumblr trash?
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>>49381892
Nope. Women are objects, men are agents. Get over it.
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>>49391215
Nope, your definition is wrong.
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>>49395129
Then the better for the men to be pretty and graceful boys who endeavour to court and win the affections of the the plain-looking and bigger women, who select the prettiest and most alluring males.
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>>49395177
Nah, better for men to be badass strong dudes and the women to be weak and helpless.
>>
>The elves dug too deep, and too greedily tracing the roots of the world tree
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>>49395211
How pedestrian
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>>49395374
And correct.
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>>49395395
I don't think you can objectively say this sort of thing is correct or incorrect
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>>49395446
I can.
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>>49381892
>Dark elves are actually the nicest kind of elf, because they've been humbled by their banishment and learned to live among humans.
>High Elves are actually incompetent at everything due to using outdated methods that they insist will work despite that not being the case
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>>49395508
But then you'd be incorrect
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>>49395538
Nope.
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>>49395572
Look, do you wanna fuck me or not
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>>49389584
>>49389717
Cloacas and dongs aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>49389185
I thought feminists were all about pretty boys?
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>>49395949

>I thought feminists were like X
>I thought all feminists were like X
>I thought all members of a group were like X
>I thought all members of a group formed of thousands if not millions were like X
>People actually believe this
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>>49396294
so do they like pretty boys or not?
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>>49396361
no they like chads.
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>>49397352
Except when they don't, of course.
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>>49397663
Exceptions don't make the rule.
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>>49390781

ok I loled
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>>49382379
who the fuck wants a bunch of ugly chicks in their game lmao
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>>49382525
that's because the way we currently do it is correct.
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>>49382649
uh yeah the exaggeration in the op is asinine for example
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>>49382663
He's right.
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>>49382942
>hehe we're nerds playing video games XD

nice job letting the walking biohazard mutate in an uncontrolled space. bet they didn't even sterilize the compartment afterwards.
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>>49398578
You can't fuck them dude, they're not real. Why do you want a bunch of imaginary, exclusively pretty imaginary girls? It doesn't effect you either way, you're not gonna get any more out of them being universally hotties unless you're jerkin it under the table to your sweaty DM's descriptions of her pointy nipples and fat ass.
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>>49383059
the only results on google are forum posts in which people ask for the source and are told to google it.
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>>49383494
Exactly as boring as making all females monstrous, or all males monstrous, or making everyone asexual, or any other decision at all.
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>>49398662

Yeah, people who say "just google it" are often unaware of the google bubble effect, which means the results you want might not show up for you because google is trying to be helpful in its not-yet-sentient way. Not everybody sees the same results for a given search, and apparently google thinks you're only interested in forum posts for some dumb ass reason.
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>>49383537
>bear

kys
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>>49383911
l2draw
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>>49398652
Ugly women are like rubber swords.

Yes you can have them in a game and no they're not real rubber swords, but do I really have to even finish that thought to get the point across?
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>>49384357
No need. I can tell when something is beneath me.
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>>49389803
They pursue weird deviant sex shapes because they're all perverts
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>>49398719
Then why post in the thread at all?
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>>49386797
>vision, immersion, dignity

lmao it's a fucking fantasy game you pretentious faggot
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>>49387158
>waaahhh people have tastes that are different from mine
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>>49389049
Of course not. There's no incentive to put dongs in a game.
>>
>Invert the stereotype.

>Stereotype is still a dichotomy of feminine and masculine traits, just slapped onto separate genders.

Why not try something actually creative instead of feminism 101?
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>>49389985
Meaning is usage. If people use it to mean "fetish for the sake of fetish" then that's what it means. You are not an arbiter of anything. You have no authority. You don't matter.
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>>49398621

Your mom.
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>>49390640
Yes, I am. And there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>49396361

Do they?
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>>49398650

>I'm going to make a bunch of assumptions about the setting based off of one image

It's like I'm really on /v/!
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>>49398854
>Meaning is usage
Hi there. I have an undergraduate in technical communication and am currently pursuing a master's degree in rhetoric and communication studies.

Meaning is not usage.

Thanks.
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>>49398635

Nah.
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>>49398715

>how you know when someone has no point
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>>49391685
but i want to get with the lizard women
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>>49391750
No it doesn't.
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>>49391766
It isn't vanilla at all.
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>>49391786
And if that's the way they use the term, that is the correct usage.
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>>49391915
We really do.
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>>49392101
Prove it.
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>>49398652
You're missing the point. What I get out of it is irrelevant. Attractive women are objectively aesthetically correct.
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>>49398693
Well, there were image results too, but none of them were related to the actual image; at least in the twenty pages I checked. (Also checked against duckduckgo, tineye, and a few other image searchers for the sake of due diligence)
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>>49398768
Please. My actions require no justification.
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>>49398906
And we're definitely trying to understand each other's tech manuals right now!

Oh wait, no we're not. We're having a casual conversation. Meaning is usage.

Btw your degree would mean fuck all even if it was relevant, which it isn't.
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>>49398909
Yeah.
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>>49399099

nah
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>>49399161

nah
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>>49399164
yeah
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>>49399183

nah
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>>49399197
yeah
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>>49399154
Yikes, that is some weapons grade overreaction there.

But no, meaning is not usage. Language evolves, yes, but it evolves within the boundaries of its own rules. Just because a bunch of people start using a word incorrectly does not mean the word's definition changes.
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>>49399223

nah
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>>49399245
Yes, that's exactly what it means.
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>>49399256
yeah
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>>49399267

nah
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>>49381892
A. That is kinda fetishy
B. It actually makes me realize that this is exactly my most recent character's marriage.

He's basically a full blown trap who's married to a naga woman. She's still hot, mind you, but she's the scary claws and fangs in the relationship and he's just the cute witch cuddled up in her coils.

Before anyone points it out, yes, the character is magical realm as all hell. It's an evil leaning campaign and he started as a 'let's play the adorable character who's secretly evil and scary' but then an opportunity to actually crossdress came up, then came the chance to hit on a (male) dragon, then I started dating a naga, then I tried to seduce the dragon and his wife into a threesome, then I tried to seduce three different gods. And the whole time it was awesome. The character never broke the flow of things, he never went over the top on any specific portion of the magical realm, he just was the slut bard turned up to 11 and a reversal of many tropes (the most obvious of said tropes being the submissive and shy trap, which he most certainly was not)
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>>49399272
yeah
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>>49399293

nah * ∞
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>>49399245
Actually...
>>49399260
Is kinda right. Rules change, words change. Shakespeare invented dozens of words and because they caught on they're real words.

For instance: I use the term magical realm to apply to basically all inclusion of your fetishes in a game but don't necessarily give those words a derogatory context.

Hell, the point of a meme is it's a bit of cultural or language based... stuff... that has kinda gotten away from any attempts to control it. It's taken on a life of its own. Thus memes are just a really poor subject to argue linguistics on.
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>>49399307
yeah
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>>49399329
The thread has auto-saged. I wonder if that means this inane chain of replies is over.
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>>49399260
No it doesn't.
>>49399321
But the definitions of "magical" and "realm" have not changed. You're thinking of idioms, turns of phrase.

The majority of the terms attributed to Shakespeare are not wholly original, they are, like "magical realm," turns of phrase Shakespeare used in his most famous works.

Again, Shakespeare is remembered for his use of language within a given system of restrictions, not because he invented a new language or a new form of the English language.

Meaning is not usage.
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>>49399441

nah
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>>49399329
>>49399455
I really hope these two idiots are actually a samefag.

One person being a troll I can accept. Two people being this stupid worries me.
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>>49399444
Yes it is.
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>>49399455
yeah
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>>49381892
>Invert the Stereotype...
You mean like replacing the male martial who saves a princess (female) with a female magic use who saves a princess (male)? Am I doing it right?
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>>49399282
>straight trap bullshit aga-
>it's a bi trap
I'm okay with this.
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