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Magic: The Gathering Modern General
(competitive discussion)

Decklists:
>http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper

Primers:
>http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern

FULL Kaladesh card image gallery (available when this post is 12-13 hours old)
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/kaladesh
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Any Kaladesh cards that are gonna show up in Modern?
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>>49366983
One sec, just let me get my crystal ball
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>>49366983


Besides enemy fastlands? Nah
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>>49366983
Infect might play that improved vines.
+2/+2 and hexproof for G
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>>49366983
Enemy fastlands will see a lot of play, madcap experiment will see a fair bit of play if inkmoth nexus eats a ban, and in a couple of other cards will slot into some lower tier decks, but nothing is a must play as of now.

>>49367577
2 power increase for G is okay, but I think the potential 4 power increase from vines makes it overall better considering that you most want hexproof on your opponent's turn and a topdeck vines puts you way closer to killing your opponent if things go long.
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>>49367644
With jund as top dog again, it'll probably see play to avoid a terminate after you've pumped to attack, basically as another vines. Can't imagine what it'd replace though
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>>49367577
I think you mean improved ranger's guile

Vines is still better and more versatile
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I finally got around to watching the scg invitational and holy shit Brad Nelson winning in two turns was so dope. That is all I wanted to say
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>>49367644
>madcap experiment will see a fair bit of play if inkmoth nexus eats a ban
It will see a fair bit of play regardless of this unlikely banning. It's very solid in RG Valakut decks, where you can power out Emperion on turn 3 very often. The Path doesn't even feel that bad because it more or less guarantees you can play Primeval Titan next turn.
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>>49366983
Cathartic Reunion is pimp in dredge. Best card in the set for modern.
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>>49366983
Affinity might try Inventors' Fair instead of Sea Gate Wreckage.
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Wizards why...?
What went wrong?
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>>49368042
>skipping leg day
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>>49368042
reality smasher is a fucking stupid card no matter how you look at it
should have cost at LEAST 6 for a 5/4
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>>49368042
are those penises or legs?
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>>49368042
Wastes mana (or whatever it's called) as a whole
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So 2 more weeks to Kaledesh comes out, do you think its modern viable set?

Even though no one gives a shit.
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>>49368060
Never
>>49368071
That's not Reality Smasher there Bernie Mac
>>49368087
Penises
>>49368092
Colorless... ya goof
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>>49368133
See >>49366983
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>>49366983
that colorless counter for U will likely see sideboard play
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>>49368156
>That's not Reality Smasher there Bernie Mac
I know retard I meant Oath eldrazi as a whole
The thing that made the eldrazi cool anyway was that they were these enormous cards with big impacts and it was hard and fun to get out
this is just shit, even delver wasn't good enough to make waves in vintage
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>>49367109
savage
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>>49368238
You're retarded and sound underage
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It's Khans of Tarkir all over again.

"The duals and the sideboard cards are the only ones that will see play."

I get that card evaluation is hard, especially for this set since it introduces HUGE mechanics, but don't be so quick to dismiss the sheer power of the set.

Hell, Energy could be stronger than we think for all we know.
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>>49368307
>this nigga never played original zendikar draft
Okay bucko
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>>49368307
nope, sorry
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>>49368435
You mean RoE draft. Playing fatties in zen draft is an auto loss.
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Unban BBE so I can end of turn Kolaghan's command, kill opposing bob, get back BBE from graveyard, then cast that shit on my turn
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>>49368425
Yeah the spoilers have been promising
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>>49368092
I agree, I like the idea of making Eldrazi require colorless, but making a new cost symbol for it was dumb. There's a total of 8 cards that use it in the cost line(which is the only place you would need it, as generic mana in your pool has always been colorless). How hard would it have been to add a single line to these 8 cards that said "at lease {x} of the casting cost must be payed from a colorless source"?
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>>49368569
>at lease {x} of the casting cost must be payed from a colorless source
Mountains are colorless. Your ruling doesn't work.

They tried other methods, but they all sucked compared to the benefits of a colorless symbol.
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>>49368597
>benefits
no good came from colorless mana cards
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>>49368597
>They tried other methods, but they all sucked compared to the benefits of a colorless symbol.
The benefits of for no reason errata-ing 2k cards? Also, what if in the future you had a creature you wanted 4 colorless mana required to cast it, are you litterally going to put {butthole}{butthole}{butthole}{butthole}{x} on a card?
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>>49368805
How is this unacceptable but GGGGGG and so on is fine?
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Watched a Griselbrand combo player go to 2 life on turn 2 because he named Goryo's on Dark Plunge or whatever and didn't find it for 17 cards.

And then I path'd his griselbrand
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>>49369014
>Watched a Griselbrand combo player go to 2 life on turn 2 because he named Goryo's on Dark Plunge or whatever and didn't find it for 17 cards.
spoils of the vault? gisshoalbrand doesnt play that
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>>49369052
Yes, that card. He also played the card that was pay X life to look at the top X cards and pick one which is the name I was fumbling for. His spoils were all in japanese and I never remembered the name.

He wasn't playing the optimized list and it cost him the game.
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>>49369085
you literally dont play spoils or plunge, because they nuke your wincons a lot of the time. Ad Nauseum can get away with it because they have ways to still win even with most their deck exlied.
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>>49369360
It's not my deck man, and it didn't work for him.
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Unbanning jace. Blue is shit right now and ancestral visions didn't do fuck all for any decks. It sucks right now because it's a field of soft counters and shitty library manipulation in the form of serum visions. What a shit card. God I'm so fucking butt mad!!
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>>49369689
Bant eldrazi is blue and gitaxian probe is a great blue card :^)
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>>49369689
>Blue is shit right now
get in line, white is still the worst color in modern
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>>49370185
Technically bant eldazi doesn't run any blue cards because of devoid.
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Holy shit death's shadow is too much fun.

First time giving it a shot and just had two turn 3 wins on the draw.

How come you guys didn't tell me how good and fucked up this deck feels to play?
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>>49371189
I play it too, without baubles for now it's pretty fun, like having a 19/19 double strike trample on turn 3 swinging for lethal is great.
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I'm trying to get into modern, but I'm having trouble getting the ice pick past my sinus'. Is there an easier way to enjoy this format?
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>>49369689
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>>49369689
Unbanning Jace wouldn't even do much, I honestly think that Nahiri is a better walker than jtms in modern now; high loyalty, quick instakill ultimate, capable of exiling creatures... that seems just much better than bounce for -1 and a 5 turn ultimate. Brainstorming for 0 is of course insane but bolt is much more prevalent in modern than legacy
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>>49366983
Pic related in Burn?
Also, Scrapheap Scrounger seems very good.
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>>49366983
This card is gonna go in a lot of sideboards
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>>49371698
What,would Burn cut? Our list Is so right with the addition of ACommand and Nacatl, we've got like, four flex slots, and the cards filling those slots are way better than that.
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>>49371751
Yeah I agree, just like affinity burn is so tightly knit at the moment that the barrier of entrance for any new tech is insanely high

People were predicting a fucking mox opal ban when kaladesh was announced because with all those new artifacts affinity was bound to be pushed over the edge, and I haven't seen a single card that could potentially be played in affinity
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>>49371770
Yeah, they say they don't test for Modern, or even care that much about it really, but it's pretty obvious they played it pretty safe with Kaladesh.

Although, RG Energy beats is looking like a fun deck that might even be a decent Modern port.
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>>49366983
This will see play in G/R Stompy decks. Also Naya Burn perhaps.
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>>49366983
This vehicle is pretty good. I can see myself running it in Naya Burn, crewing it with Wild Nacatl.
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>>49368071

Eldrazi of phyrexian obliterator.
Ill take the smasher any day.
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>>49372173
maybe if you're running a deck with no removal.
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>>49372091
>4 CMC
>burn
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>>49372426
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Been playing this recently, it's a lot of fun and has a lot of good matchups. Has fairly good interaction and a clock against combo and outgrinds most fair decks off the back of norin combos.

4 Norin the Wary
4 Champion of the Parish
4 Thalia's Lieutenant
2 Soul Warden
2 Soul's Attendant
2 Abzan Falconer
4 Dark Confidant

3 Genesis Chamber
3 Blood Moon
4 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile

4 Marsh Flats
3 Arid Mesa
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Godless Shrine
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Blood Crypt
2 Plains
2 Swamp
3 Cavern of Souls

SB:
2 Auriok Champion
2 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Stony Silence
2 Rest in Peace
2 Mark of Asylum
2 Wear // Tear
2 Electrickery
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>>49372786
This deck is gross. Once you have 4 life gainers out, it's nearly impossible to kill you
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>>49372786
For some reason I always think Norin is a goblin, didn't realize he'd work with Champion of the Parish.
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Why this isn't played in modern?
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>>49373370
Mana Leak better when there's none in the yard
Mana Leak better with snap
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>>49372426
Its a better Skiz that self-animates itself the first turn and then can be crewed with Wild Nacatl for additional damage. It being colorless means its pretty easy to cast, arguably easier than Ball Lightning.
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>>49373394
What about decks like merfolk that can either run pierce or negate?

Wouldn't rune snag work better in the long run?
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>>49373370
You see it once in a long while as Mana Leak 5- 8, but it's a really bad feeling to rip one off the top in turn 5+.
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>>49366983
New Chandra might swing herself a slot in Jund.

If you consider Skred a proper Modern deck then it is a sure thing since she will definitely find a place there.
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>>49373429
Merfolk is an agrro deck, long run isn't what it wants to be doing. When you're trying to counter a board wipe or combo piece spell pierce and negate are both better than rune snag.
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>>49372426
You can crew it with Goblin Guide to null its ability. It comes in very handy if the game gets long.
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>>49366983
Of the Gearhulks, the Green is the best one. Its x100 times better than a Terra Stomper and the +1/+1 counters give it a very high impact from the moment it hits the board.

We should expect this card on Stompy, ramp and even some midrange as a curve topper. Its just 5 cmc after all.
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>>49373512
See
>>49371751
>>49371770

Like, have you played Burn? You're hardly ever at 4 lands anyway. This dumb car is dead in your hand for a lot games. Burns lists are so tight, they can't even afford flex slots for this piece of crap.

I would literally run any four drop that Jund plays before considering anything else.
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>>49373664

Absolutely with white in a fairly far second. The rest are lightyears behind and not playable, but green is the biggest, greenest big green dude since Terra Stomper and god DAMN
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>>49373687
>running kalitas in burn
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>>49371633
>Unbanning Jace wouldn't even do much
It would help wizards in their quest to create the most expensive cardboard known to man
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>>49373762
I'd do it before fleetwheel crappier.

Put him in the side of a mardu/jund burn shell. Laugh as people give me the most hilarious looks.
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You think this card has a chance in Affinity? I mean it does take a slot in the 3 drop department, dies to removal.
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>>49374065
If you're suggesting that, you don't understand how Affinity works.
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>>49374065
Your hand is already empty by the time you can play it
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>>49373664
>5cmc
>stompy
?????????
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I fucking love when removing my own creature is the correct play
>Opponent at 2, swing with 2 bloodghasts into empty board
>He reanimates a griselbrand and blocks one for the lifelink
>"So I survive at 7 and one of your ghasts dies."
>"Before damage, I abrupt decay my own ghast that you blocked"
>mfw his face
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>>49375299
Preventing Greezy from dealing damage is the only reason you see Baneslayer in Legacy.
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>>49374065
>>49374211
>>49374087
okay I got it, midrange affinity

with actual affinity cards maybe
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>>49375534
baneslayer doesnt see any play in legacy
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>>49375299
ITT insane plays you got to make to win the game

>playing Jeskai Nahiri versus merfolk, lost game 1, playing game 2
>opponent has a chalice of the void on 1 and on 2
>I have stony silence into play, he's playing merfolk through Cavern of Souls
>Wear//Tear his Chalice on 2 by fusing it and also targeting my own Stony Silence, giving it cmc3
>follow up with helix snap helix
>win

game 3, same opponent
>opponent has chalice on 0 and on 1 to stop my AV
>cast Engineered Explosives off Ghost Quarter and Desolate Lighthouse, my only two colorless lands
>EE has cmc2 on the stack but sunburst 0
>blow up both chalices, resolve AV, flurry of cmc1 removal
>win

those were some saltwater fish I tell ya what
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>>49375714
Midrange Affinity would be terrible. You'd get outvalued by every Ancient Grudge.
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>>49375792
topdecking dregemangler and hitting for 3 against legacy jund for the win. IT was the only thing I could have played to win, Had 4 in the deck 2 in graveyard.
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Will this card see play in the traditional Death's Shadow aggro or the Jund delirium focused list?
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>>49366983
Probably this. Plus madcap and Chandra.
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>>49366983

since I'm building a Wilt-Leaf Abzan deck atm, I could imagine playing pic related as 1-of SB card against going-wide strategies.
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>>49376199
Damn that's really nice actually
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Serious question. Why do you guys enjoy modern when legacy is arguably the best format there is?
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>>49376365
I'm not made of money and no one plays legacy around here anyway
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>>49376365
I play both because both are popular where I live
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>>49376365
There are any number of reasons.
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>>49376365
I'm lucky if I get to play Modern once a month. Everyone around here is all Standard All The Time! So no legacy. Mostly standard, commander, modern in that order.

It can be suffering, but at least I'm good enough in standard to do well most weeks.
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>>49376365
I don't know anyone that plays Legacy. Also, I bought Affinity for Modern when the total cost of the deck was about $200 and practically nothing has changed about it since, Infect was mostly the same story, and I had 90% of Dredge lying around in my collection so it only cost me like $50 to put it together.

Basically, I have no reason not to play Modern and multiple reasons not to play Legacy.
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>>49376365
That's your opinion. I don't play in a pro tour-esque meta and I don't find legacy all that great. It's fun but not for me
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>>49376504
I wish I knew more standard players. All my friends are mostly limited or commander players.
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>>49376504
OP of the question here. Thats the problem at my LGS, everyone is standard, standard, standard. I'm just luckily theres a strong legacy scene 40 mins away from my place.
>>49376460
whats wrong with owning a piece of art work that will only rise as the cards become more and more scare
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>>49376584
It doesn't matter how much you love Magic, not everyone can justify spending that much on a single card
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>>49376365
I enjoy Legacy more than modern and occasionally play it proxied at fnm

but there are many MANY more people who play Modern and the entry fee for Legacy is inexcusable
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>>49372070
I could see this maybe being a budget alternative to goyf in zoo decks.
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>>49376584
>whats wrong with owning a piece of art work that will only rise as the cards become more and more scare

The initial investment.
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>>49376701
Specifically, I mean in the sb against decks bringing in chalice.
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>>49376365

Because the closest place near me does legacy once a month, and there's many places around me that do modern weekly.

And because spergs get whiny about chinaman proxies
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>>49377483
>spergs get whiny about chinaman proxies
Yea they're totally spergs for not wanting you to play with fakes. Kys fag
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>>49377797
suck a cock reserved list apologist
you cunts make magic shittier for everyone
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>>49377849
Lmao I must be an apologist eh?
Grow up kid
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>>49377880
as long as nobody is trying to pass off fakes as real, who gives a fuck?
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>>49377916
Maybe if that was the case you'd have a point.
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>>49377797

>he's a investor
>of cardboard
>on an anime imageboard
>he does it instead of starting his own business
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he whines about poorfags because whenever he gets upset that he spent all his money on collectable investments he has an asthma attack
>he wants legacy to die because poorfags shouldn't be allowed to play the best format
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
>he will have $40k worth of cardboard
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>>49378353
Holy shit, where did you get any of this?
I'm sorry you're so butt blasted you typed all this out even though I said nothing like this.
Feel better some day, won't you?
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>>49378395

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>49378423
Wow, ebin. This pasta never gets old

When can we talk about magic again?
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>>49378395
>he dosent know
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>>49377797
>That cardboard is completly different from this exactly equal piece of cardboard just because i say so. so fuck yourself fagget

Spergs will sperg

All my modern t1 decks are full of chinamen shit and nobody has noticed ever. fuck you enfranchised players that payed 200 for a goyf
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>>49378628
>fuck you for spending your disposable income how you see fit

Children will be children
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>>49378671

No, fuck you for being a basic fucking bitch and dropping $200 on cardboard when you could have spent $4. You got played, rich or poor.
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>>49378671
>Hey if i decided to invest bad my money and you don't you are a cheater!!!
+1$ added to your starofdavid games account
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>>49378701
>>49378708
Why is it an investment to you?

Also I do have fake goyfs from before I got my real ones. They're incredibly poor quality and I don't see why you're getting so damn upset over my decision to spend some spare change on things I enjoy
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>>49378755

Post Guru Lands cunt
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>>49378787
I don't like Nielsen art that much so I wouldn't buy guru lands. Why are you so hostile? Jealousy? Is me owning real tarmogoyfs interfering with your life somehow?
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>>49370199
>4 out of the top 20 decks have white
>only deck besides merfolk that's a pure playable colour in modern is soul sisters.
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>>49370199
What is abzan
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>>49379496

>pure white
>soul sisters

You mean D&T right? The mono-white version of that isn't even the best version
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>>49379635
>The mono-white version of that isn't even the best version
The different DnT variants are all around the same power level, but they have different strengths and weaknesses.

>>49379496
Isn't 8Whack mono red?

And there's Mono Green Stompy and 8Rack.

Merfolk and DnT are the only ones that are Tier 1/2, though.
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>>49379635
How do you not know what soul sisters is?
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>>49379715

>Merfolk
Only gay people play that deck

>>49379775
How do you not know reading comprehension? What I was saying was that Soul Sisters was never viable and that DnT was the only viable mono-white deck
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>>49379790
>was never viable
Blatantly wrong

>hurrr Dur gay Lmao
Kys
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>>49379944

>Blatantly wrong
Post results

>kys
Bruh, everyone knows all Merfolk players are gay. Stop getting triggered at banter.
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The only reason dnt is putting up results is because people don't know what it is trying to do or how to beat it.

Players will wise up real quick here and the deck will fall into obscurity again. It's just not strong
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Rate my deck /tg/
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>>49380481

enlighten me. what is it trying to do, how do you beat it, and what decks will make it fall into obscurity?
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>>49367109
kek
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>>49380662
How's the meta in Australia?
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>>49380976
It shows up right side up on my computer and phone, shit's weird yo.
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>>49381029
Jokes aside, it looks like fairly stock Naya Burn. What are you expecting people to comment on?
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>>49380976
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>>49381080
I want /tg/ to bully me for being a poorfag who plays burn, and for being a filthy weeb who likes digimon and wears faggy sunglasses.
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>>49373664
Why is /tg/ always bad at magic
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rate me /tg/
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>>49381278
Btl is superior
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>>49381278
>sideboard a bunch of fatties and become RUG Control
I like it
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>>49381278
Did you just happen to end up with an Expedition Grove or did you purposely select it?
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>>49375105

Some builds run 1x Garruk Primal Hunter for the value it produces. Its the best top deck if youre against grindy decks. Terrible in the opening hand sure, but being to synergize very well with Dungrove Elder or even just Baloth or rancored Avatar with its card draw deserves a mention. Replacing it with Gearhulk is an acceptable spicy tech
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ALWAYS SHOAL THE BIRD
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>>49381362
>superior
In what ways? I've done a lot of testing and come to the conclusion that RUG is better.

>>49381375
The deck is essentially RUG control with scapeshift as a consistent win condition. The creatures come in as a way to punish opponents for siding out removal as well as providing other ways to win/not lose.

>>49381414
I wanted it specifically. Its got some killer art and I bought it for just 40 dollars off some reader who found it in a fat pack.
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>>49381520
You won't get many replies when you samefag
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>>49381598
I'm using a tripcode, I don't think you understand what you're saying.
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>>49381631
>I'm using a tripcode,
no you aren't you're just namefagging
a trip requires you put a # followed by a code
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>>49381631
>>49381698
and nothing is stopping you from just changing the name field every time you post
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>>49381698
derp
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>>49381721
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>>49381631

although if I were using a tripcode I wouldn't be able to sit here and call myself a humongous fucking faggot right now
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>>49381815
>>49381772
why is this so funny
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>>49381843
because I enjoy molesting little children when I'm not browsing Reddit
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Is this a new meme?
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I wonder if he realizes this isn't like reddit and you shouldn't be using identifiers unless you're providing authentic and exclusive information
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I don't really care if this becomes a joke, I'll just drop the name and no one will notice.
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Post more rug memes
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>that fuzzy feel when you find out the people at your store talk about your deck
>tfw they say good things about your brew
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>>49382274
I've actually been debating making RUG Burn
I figure snapping an ataraka's command could be potentially gay as fuck.
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Okay guys, maybe it's just my meta or maybe it's just me, but I've been tweaking my Jeskai Nahiri SB for a while now to give me more flexible options for most decks, but a lot of the time the cards just go unutilized.

3 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Supreme Verdict (I play an Anger main)
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Counterflux
2 Crumble to Dust
2 Stony Silence
1 Dispel
2 Timely Reinforcements

I guess not a lot of Burn, Tron, or Dredge gets played at my shop, if any at all, so the Timely Reinforcements, the Crumbles, and the Relics pretty much never come it, but the relics are actually really good in the mirror from what I've seen. I also board absolutely nothing in against Jund, Bant Eldrazi, or Infect. Infect is a decent matchup and I think I might put in a couple of Ceremonious Rejection in for Bant but I just can't seem to come up with any sort of tech for Jund and it's a pretty popular deck around here.

Is there any actual tech for Jund or is their deck just that bulletproof?
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>>49383031
When in doubt, I put a pithing needle in my board.

If you don't bring cards in, don't pack them to fnm.
Remember not to sideboard for mtgtop8 meta, but your own.
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>>49372786

I was retooling eldrazi and taxes to play around with the human synergy in the deck.

Creatures
3x Champion of the Parish
4x Eldrazi Displacer
4x Flickerwisp
4x Leonin Arbiter
2x Magus of the Moon
3x Norin the Wary
4x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Thalia's Lieutenant
3x Thought-Knot Seer
Land (23)
4x Battlefield Forge
4x Eldrazi Temple
4x Ghost Quarter
2x Mountain
2x Nephalia Academy
3x Plains
4x Sacred Foundry

Instants
4x Path to Exile

Artifacts
4x AEther Vial

Sideboard
2x Duergar Hedge-Mage
2x Keldon Marauders

Maybe?
4x Blade Splicer
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>>49383144
that seems pretty good actually, seeing as how any good player would board out the Abrubt Decay.
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>>49383191

Either go Norin Sisters or Eldrazi and Taxes. You're just gimping yourself by making it a hybrid.
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>>49382837
Disregard that, I love sucking big meaty cocks and my opinions blow ass.

This is why you trip code when you namefag kiddies
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>>49383230
The thing is most of those are humans and I'm trying to incorporate the magus of the moon as a giant control manuever
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>>49383191

What the fuck is this deck
>human synergy
>no caverns

That's the first of your issues
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>>49383255

Then cut Norin. Youre incorporating Norin the Wary but you dont have Ranger of Eos, Soul Sisters and Genesis Chamber with you, the payoffs just too little.
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>>49383256
>death and taxes
>running caverns
nigga are you retarded?
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>>49383356

>he doesn't run cavern to shit on counterspells harder
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>>49383356
Are you? Any kind of "tribal" deck needs to run caverns
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>>49383245
We should all be RUG
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>>49383437
Please do, maybe the deck will gain in popularity
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>>49383431
>DnT
>tribal
wew lad
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>>49383423
>>49383431
The idea is that you have so many other non basics there's no room for cavern.

It probably wouldn't hurt to squeeze a few in if you're going for a human theme though.
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What are the best cards in modern to give someone with harmless offering
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>>49383887
pact :^)
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What would be the best colours for rug burn? Should I splash black for bump in the night?
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>>49383912
First, tell me the pros of RUG burn over other burn decks. Namely, Naya burn.
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>>49383887
Immortal Coil, Steel Golem and Demonic Pact
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>>49383936
Pretty sure they're still just mocking the namefag. I mean, "the best colours for rug burn" is a pointedly retarded question.
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>>49383887
Could be funny to Offer Percy. Decks without Path or Liliana could actually have a hard time getting rid of it.
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>>49381698
>>49381718
>>49381721
>>49381772
>>49381843
>>49381857
>>49381932
>>49382049

Nice meme fellow memers
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Why is affinity such a large part of the metagame despite not putting up a lot of top 8s? I swear I've seen more Bogles than Affinity
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>>49385216

i would imagine that affinity gets hated out by people packing affinity answers, and people are all packing those answers because affinity is such a large portion of the metagame. if it were a fringe deck like Dredge was before everyone started dedicating a third of their SBs to it, you might see top 8s. but affinity has been so consistent and vicious forever that it's not going to be easily forgotten as a tournament threat.
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>>49385244
Pretty much.
Any major tournament you'd go to will have enough rounds that someone is eventually going to draw their entire sideboard and take you down.
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>>49378701
>>49378708
>Not being able to afford simple cardboard at just 200$ a pop
How's it like being a poorfag? Take care not to ruin your 'collection' with all the dollar menu garbage you probably pile up in your pre owned high mileage 19xx corolla. But then again some trash bags are good at keeping liquids in and out, hope the one holding your cards in is tied up well then.
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>bought collected company for standard and to get into modern with stompy
>test it out
>boring as fuck and super narrow

wish i bought into BW tokens, looks fun and cheap.
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>>49385216

It's a powerful deck, people have just been efficiently sideboarding against it lately.

Although at the moment you risk getting swallowed by Dredge if you focus too much on affinity.

Dredge is the best format boogeyman, and I'm glad it's back.
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Hey modernites,

Any way I can improve my Faeries deck?

4 Darkslick Shores
2 Faerie Conclave
3 Ghost Quarter
2 Island
4 Mutavault
4 River of Tears
4 Secluded Glen
2 Swamp
1 Batterskull
4 Bitterblossom
3 Cryptic Command
4 Go for the Throat
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Mana Leak
2 Mistbind Clique
2 Remand
2 Scion of Oona
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Spell Snare
4 Spellstutter Sprite
2 Thoughtseize
2 Vendilion Clique
Sideboard:

2 Appetite for Brains
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Drown in Sorrow
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Hibernation
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Spellskite
2 Surgical Extraction
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>>49382837
>RUG burn
Domain zoo revival when?

>>49386787
hurkyl's recall. What are you going to do against affinity?
flaying tendrils is probably better than drown in sorrow.
i want to see at least two tar pits as well
manabase looks pretty greedy, would add fetches unless you're confident you won't face blood moons
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>>49386903
Swap a secluded and darkslick for two tar pits?

Swap the relics for hurkyl's? I could drop the two muta's to bring my manabase down to 23... but not sure what to add in. 2 ancestral's?
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>>49386903
>Domain zoo revival when?
I would fucking play the shit out of that if the manabase didn't rape the fuck out of my life total.
Tribal Flames is a legit card
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>>49387060
Low life total? I know just the creature for you!
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>>49386993
yes to the first one, but keep the mutavaults. You need all the faeries and lands you can get.
i would probably swap out appetite/extraction for 2 recalls
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>>49380662

You passed the test of playing the only good version of lavamancer
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Help.
Thoughts and opinions?

Pretend 1 kird ape is a Hierarch. Need to find something to replace the other 2 apes. 2 more paths?

Yes, I like Sin Prodder, he's value and people don't even know it.
>Get him off CoCo
>Feeds lands into Knight
>Feeds cards into become immense
>Evasion

Yes, I also like become immense. It steals games. Won't be taking them out.
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>>49388053
Forgot pic apparently.
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>>49371724
moron
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>>49386213
>You don't want to do bad financial decitions?You must be poor

How delusinal are mtg players this days
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>>49388065
jelly
i want that exact set up.
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>>49388065
Why is one Kird Ape randomly hanging out with the Noble Hierarchs?
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>>49388065
Ayy I ran pretty much that list actually, minus the reckoner and with voice of resurgence and 4 knights, ran it more of a toolbox
super fun, would rec
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SCG Open Orlando (Modern)
>twitch tv/scglive
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>>49386250
>creature roulette with beats is boring
Who woulda thunk?
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Guys, how do i effectively beat up my chinamen cards to make them look older?
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>"girl" on stream playing magic the gathering
>big hands
>strong facials

why do i even expect otherwise?


>>49389065
throw them on ashes after a barbecue, rub them. then, let them on the sun for a while.
you can finish it off by rubbing some rock on the edges to erase some of the paint
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>>49389001
>watching people play
Hmmmmm no thanks
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>>49389121
Thanks, i was thinking of using my barbeque.
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>>49389001

I've never before watched magic streams, tuned into this for one game, and the girl immediately punted away a very winnable game holy shit
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>>49389274
>i expect skill from sgc tournaments, specially day 1

that's on you m8
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>Jeskai throwing the game

At least the more the tournament advances, the better the players and matches.
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>>49389274
>punted
>>49389334
>throwing the game

What exactly happened?
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>>49388890
He loves the white women, cuck
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>>49389290

BBD was the opponent, there is skill to be watched somewhere. All she had to do it wait out 2 more turns and hope for a topdeck. I don't expect people to be masters but if you have that much money committed to the game and are competing at a big event, I expect you to at least not make the worst play possible (Vendillion Clique main step wtf?)
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>>49389346
got too agressive
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>>49389358
>the white women
>Noble Hierarch

Try again.
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>>49388890
U jelly white boi?
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>>49389346

Jeskai has 3 snapcasters on board, with mana for Colonnade and 3 extra open. Clique in hand. Bant Eldrazi has a 5/5, a Displacer, and a Heirarch on board. Jeskai at 4, Bant at 13. Bant has lots of mana open and 1 card in hand, likely irrelevant but showed Negate earlier in the game.

It's jeskai's turn and she's looking probably for spot removal or a board wipe but hasn't gotten it. She taps for Colonnade, attacks with it and 2 Snaps. Bant blinks the collonade, takes 4 from Snaps. Jeskai then taps out main phase to play V. Clique I think targetting herself. Bant untaps, displaces the clique and the untapped snap caster, swings for lethal.

Jeskai could have done any number of things to stay alive for one turn, and likely could have stayed alive for two or more considering mind games and then fact that she had several cards in hand that BBD could reasonably have believed were bolts/helix/sweepers. Jeskai made the one exact worst play there was possible
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>>49389346
Bant Eldrazi has a Displacer on the battlefield and tons of mana for it.

Jeskai needs to use its mana to cast spells like Timely Reinforcements.

Jeskai chooses to animate Colonnade and attack, which then immediately gets displaced. No mana left for spells and then loses.
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>tfw can never get the T2 Spellskite to live against Infect
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>>49389129
I don't understand how can anyone have fun watching people play magic. it's the most boring thing ever
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>>49389976
>tfw got chalice on 1'd then spellskited as infect vs mud eldrazi
>both fucking games
felt bad man
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>u-uh... p-pump my inkmoth
>activate spellskite to redirect
>ok. a-again, mutagenic on inkmoth
>spellskite
>t-third mutagenix!
>-2 life
>ok... p-pass

fucking cucked
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>>49389992
Seeing good plays and lines can make you a better player. It also sometimes shows unconventional decks and it's a great way to explore the decks.
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>>49390047
Has anyone ever actually done something that stupid?

The only reason I could think to trade cards for life against a Spellskite is if you had a Thing in the Ice and could close the game out with damage instead of poison.
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>>49390071
Modern isn't that complicated. I already know advanced lines of play.
Watching magic is pretty retarded
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>>49390241
>thing in the ice
>in infect
That's even more retarded than the previous poster's story
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>>49390241
the guy just literally did that on stream
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>>49390241
There was literally no other plays to do. Just try resolving your pump spells.
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>>49389976
What kind of main board removal is infect running?
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>>49390372
twisted image
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>>49390371
How about holding onto your pump spells till you get twisted image or your sideboard hate for spellskite?
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>>49390356
It's a sideboard tech sometimes.

For example, this Grand Prix winning list:
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=13391&d=278584&f=MO
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>>49390047

>be me against naya burn
>opponent goes "swiftspear, atarkas command 3 damage and +1/+1, skull crack, swing with swiftspear, suspend rift bol-"
>"I path swiftspear"
>"uh dude, you should have responded before I was suspending rift bolt"
>"you're going too fast"

He left it at that but was pretty visibly buttblasted. Feels nice to cuck burn players.
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>>49366983
Other than the fast lands and Chandra, I'm curious about pic related as a Kitchen Finks replacement for Jund.
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>>49390599
(You)
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>>49390599
why would jund play this when they can play the real finks? if anything, this will be played in grixis
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>>49390619
>>49390635

>Advantages of Finks:
Can gain you more life
Better for beating down
Most removal is bad against it

>Advantages of Familiar
Easier to cast
Draws a card when it dies
Being an artifact helps to fuel Goyf

I'm not saying it's better than Finks, but it's close enough to warrant some testing.
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>>49390666
You have good top decks and bob gives you all the draw power you need. Even though Finks can be awkward to play at times, the whole point of him is to stabilize against aggro decks and getting 2 bodies that gain you 4 life overall is way better then a easy to remove artifact creature that gains you half the life. Having draw a card on it doesn't instantly make a creature high tier.
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Hey /tg/ I have a question.
. I don't usually play modern but I'm planning on playing in GP Vancouver in February. I was wondering if there was a way I could make my Mono-red skred deck any better for the meta. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks
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>>49390726
The card draw is useful in the grindier matchups though, which is where I think that Familiar may hold an advantage over Finks. This also helps with making your Goyfs bigger and getting Delirium online for Grim Flayer.

Again, I'm not saying that Familiar is going to replace Finks, I'm just saying that it's something worth testing.
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>>49390744
If you can wait 6-7 hours I'll post my list

I'm the skred king
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>>49390773
Alright sweet, I play the deck a lot but I don't care much for the modern format so I don't keep up on the meta. And the only help I get is from a judge who just tells me to not play it
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>>49390787
>tells me to not play it
Fuck that.
It's weak to combo and smashes aggro and midrange. Guess what modern is full of? Not fucking combo.
It's well positioned and of course moon is a menace
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>>49390574
>hur dur my opponent has mana open so i'll just do my whole turn in 2 seconds anyways

id purposely wait until eot to path his creature and make him redo everything. fucking piece of shit
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>>49390425
Displacer can blink Spellskite in response to removal for Spellskite, and Spellskite can redirect removal for Displacer and THEN get blinked by Displacer. You're a retard if you think Infect had an out.
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>>49390744

My mate has a fully foiled out Skred list, and he plays a ton, so I know a bit about it.

The meta is a lot fairer with not much combo running around, so it's business as usual in Skred. Make sure you're packing a bunch of Graveyard hate (main boarding as many relics as you can and side boarding Grafdigger's cage,) as the new Grim Flayer Abzan and Jund lists will grind you down without it, and dredge will walk all over you.

You also NEED NEED NEED 4 Mainboard Angers, they are the MOST IMPORTANT card in the deck at the moment as it deals with SO MANY decks. I'd be running less late game finishers in the main as control is declining, and more early game interaction as the meta is pretty quick at the moment.

Honestly, Skred is well positioned at the moment (well compared to when Twin and Bloom were around,) so just pray you don't get paired against Deaths Shadow Zoo or Ad Nauseum or something stupid like that and you'll be in with as much chance as anyone.
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>>49390829
Anger if the gods really? I never liked that card because it kills reckoner and I enjoy having him around. But now that you say that I'll definitely give it a shot to see if I like it.
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>>49390767

It unfortunately falls into the position where it is not good enough to mainboard in Jund in its current form, but if you were to sideboard it in, 99 times out of 100 you'd prefer finks.

If you were already playing MB finks, maaaaayybe he might be better, but to be honest, if you're playing MB finks, you're concerned about Deaths Shadow/Dredge, and Finks is 100% better than familiar in those matchups.
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>>49390862

It's huge at the moment, it all depends on your meta, but I'd definitely at least run a 2-2 split between main and side, there is a ton of relevant stuff you can hit with it that you can't hit with pyroclasm and the exile effect really helps against graveyard decks which are huge at the moment.

My mate runs a very controlly list with tons of removal and not even the full 4 reckoners mainboard, so in his case, he just wants to control the board and let Koth or Ugin mop up.
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>>49371379
What are you playing over baubles?
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>>49390884
MB Finks is good an an aggro-heavy meta or a meta where Eldrazi is huge (most Jund decks were playing a 2/2 MB/SB during Eldrazi Winter). Part of why Jund plays Twilight Mire is to cast Finks more easily, but you will find yourself shocking yourself to cast it from time to time - a problem that is easier to avoid with Familiar.

Finks is also good in the grindy matchups like the mirror or against RUx variants.This is where I see Familiar slotting in since the extra card will often be more important than the lifegain and extra body.
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>>49390574
Fuck burn honestly, good job blowing the fuck out of him.

Yes I hate burn, it's the one deck I truly feel is a no skill deck.
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>>49390906
Okay sounds good. I don't have a complete sideboard for the deck yet and I have to do some major changes to my main board. My local meta is fucky, everyone is too cheap to pay for non basic lands so I don't even run Blood moon because it wiffs whenever I play it. I do have them though and will 1000% be sticking them in the deck for the GP
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>>49390948
Burn isn't a no skill deck, but the difference between a good Burn player and a bad Burn player is much smaller than it is for other archetypes.
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>>49390929

You can't really compare the current meta to Eldrazi Winter as both Jund and the Meta has changed.

Obviously in those days, you had hands where you could get mimic mimic thought knotted swing for 8 on turn 2, so finks was much more relevant. Also, you knew that a LOT of the field was playing Eldrazi, so you could Mainboard finks safely because it would always be decent.

Plus, Jund is much lower to the ground and quicker now and doesnt really want to cast a 2/2 for 3.

I do like the thought of pitching it to Collective brutality to get a Grim Flayer online on turn 3, so I'm not completely writing it off, but comparing it to Finks is a bit too simple.
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>>49390862
different anon here. i run a 3/1 fallout/anger split main with reckoners, 1 anger in side. It works pretty well and i'd recommend that if you don't want to go deep into angers.

>>49390829
is the death's shadow match up even that bad? I've played them once or twice and either moon or reckoner pretty much stonewalls them

>>49390948
>no skill deck
what about tron? bogles?
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>>49390977
>So easy that a literal retard can win GPs with it
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>>49390963

Blood Moon is still good, but don't be surprised if people play around it because I certainly do.

As soon as you show me the basic mountain I'm suspicious, especially if you don't follow it up with a swiftspear or kird ape, and I will most likely fetch for basics.

Then again, I play Jund so normally I'm looking at your hand turn 1 anyway, but at a GP your opponents will be of a much higher standard, so be wary of that before devoting too many MB slots to moon (not to mention, it sucks cock in multiples unless they have a way to remove the first one)
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>>49391141
Okay the 3/1 split sounds good to me ill try it out for now.
>>49391168
What do you think is the optimal number for moons? 3 with a magus? Just 3? If not 4 of course
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>>49391141

Yeah, Deaths Shadow can just dodge all of your removal by holding up pump spells, usually are probing you so they can see if you have moon so they can play around it, and since you don't have a way to get rid of large creatures, can just alpha strike you.

My mate is currently running RW Skred, splashing for paths and sideboard cards like Timely reinforcements. It seems pretty good, I'd probably prefer it over mono red if I was playing it.
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>>49391209
I was thinking about splashing for white for pretty much just paths but I'm not wholly convinced yet. As for deaths shadow in specific, how fast are they? Will they be able to get going on t2 or 3? Because if I'm able to get a reckoner out, I feel a bit safer
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>>49391209
Death's Shadow can't play around Blood Moon because some builds don't run any basic lands and the builds that do usually only run one.
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>>49391241

The white splash is really good, honestly if you have access to arid mesas/sacred foundry's and paths, I'd definitely give it a shot. It lets you deal with stuff that Skred can't.

As far as deaths shadow is concerned, with the nut draw, they can theoretically turn 2 Some decks, but honestly, against Skred they probably won't because it involves getting deaths shadow out on turn 1 which will just die to your removal.

Remember, they can become immense/battle rage you on turn 3 with the right hand, if they see that you only have bolts and skreds, they'll just wait until they can land deaths shadow where it won't die and eat you alive.
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>>49391263
Some people literally sideboard a basic Forest.
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>>49391263

They can play around it partially because they can see it coming with probe sometimes and just commit whatever stuff they need to the board. It does shrink their kitty cats and apes though, which is very nice. It's still a really good card in the matchup, just not the blowout that it is against stuff like abzan

Also, I've seen some lists running 1 forest 1 swamp because of this exact reason.
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>>49391316
My only issue with that is that I don't have any mesas or sacred foundrys (paths for days). I supposed I could grab them at the GP if I needed to but I'm not a fan of running foundry because it will make my moons affect me and they don't add to the snow permanent count
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>>49391394

I wouldn't mainboard more than 2 moons in this environment, plus you can just run out the path then drop the moon if need be. That corner case scenario seems to be less likely than hitting something with path that you couldn't hit with your other removal.

Also you can always fetch for snow covered mountains so realistically it's 4 out of however many lands you run which is such a minor impact for the flexibility path offers as well as the slew of amazing sideboard cards like timely and rest in peace and stony silence.
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>>49391456
Alright maybe I'll give it a shot, we'll see though. I'm not to keen on scooping up some arid mesas
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>eldrazi mirror
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I'm also thinking of trying out the new Chandra to replace Chandra Pyro master as 1 of or 2 of main deck.
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>>49391627
For skred, forgot to clarify
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>>49391609
>i hope i draw worship first
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>>49391209
yeah death's shadow seems tricky but at least we can interact a little there, as opposed to the tron and combo matchups.

>>49391394
>>49391456
i don't recommend splashing as it opens up several different problems, and i feel path is too counterproductive to moon lock
imo stony silence is the only sb card you mentioned that skred really wants.
i'd sooner splash black for terminate and slaughter games/discard

>>49391565
torch chandra looks pretty good.
do you have a list?
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>>49391726
I'm about to head to work so I could post my list later, it's pretty standard, definetley too many walkers and dragons. Have guys ever tried prophetic flamespeaker? He's been great when he doesn't die and thinking of sticking 2 in the board
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Bought an Origins pack on a whim and opened a Jace, Vryn's Prodigy. Is he used in Modern or is the price going to tank in two weeks when he rotates out?
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>>49381278
I remember two years ago when this was a deck. The mana base can be awkward at times, and when things go late, running out of mountains for scapeshift is actually something that can happen.

I've been messing around with Inferno Titan, and just found Prime Time combined with Valakut to be superior in most situations.

I'm not a fan of Surrak either. It could be completely different for your meta, but I just don't ever run into decks that run enough counterspells to justify the slot. Certainly not enough for Surrak and Teferi. But as I said, you're meta could be different.

I do like Keranos, and Primal Command in the side.

Overall, not bad. Nothing ground breaking, and I'm not sure it's still a top-tier deck, but not bad.
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How can I fight dredge as Ad Nauseam? I got rekt really hard today, although I guess I wasn't drawing too well
I figured boarding out etheral haze for lotus bloom is good but I'm still dying too early to go off
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>>49391975
ok. Flamespeaker is very vulnerable in modern. When would you bring him in? i could see maybe for grindy midrange but they'll usually have blockers. outpost siege seems much more reliable for getting cards.
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>>49392060
It sees some play, mostly in Grixis Control.
One small problem you might notice there is that Grixis Control is not a very popular or well positioned deck.

I'd sell now, there's 0 chance it will get more expensive post-rotation and it very well could drop noticeably.
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>>49391726
>>49391975
CREATURES
4x Boros reckoner
3x Thundermaw hellkite
2x storm breath dragon

INSTANTS+SORCERIES
3x volcanic fallout
2x pyroclasm
4x skred
4x lightning bolt
2x faithless looting
1x magma jet

PLANESWALKERS
2x Chandra, torch of finance
4x koth of the hammer

ENCHANTMENTS+ARTIFACTS
2x relic of progenitus
3x blood moon

SIDEBOARD
2x relic of progenitus
2x prophetic flamespeaker
1x shatter storm
2x Grafdiggers cage
1x smash to smithereens
1x nahiri's wrath

This deck is very much a work in progress so don't take this as my end all be all. As for flamespeaker, I don't know I just like the card but lightning bolt and path are probably too good against him. I don't like outpost siege a lot because it starts to glut my 4 mana drops with the 6 walkers I already have. And yes I haven't made room for anger of the gods yet I just copy pasted this and stuck in chandra
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>>49388065
If you're already running Reckoner, why not one of a Harvest Pyre, to relive the standard glory days?
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>>49392234
Never thought of it, looks great I'll try it out
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>>49392279
It's a lot worse in modern than it was in INN-RTR, since removal is better, but if you wait for the opponent's shields to be down it can just slam for 11-15 damage out of nowhere.
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>>49392065
>when things go late, running out of mountains for scapeshift is actually something that can happen.
This is actually incredibly rare. the deck can still deal 18 damage if you only have 3 mountains left in the deck. very hard for the deck to flop due to playing too many lands.
>Prime Time combined with Valakut to be superior
Prime time + valakut is good, but because I only run 10 mountains and two valakut, the ceiling is much lower than a different deck.
>I'm not a fan of Surrak either.
I'm still testing out surrak, but he's won me quite a few a games when I cast him. being able to untap, swing at nahiri and then resolve any of the other creatures I sided in really helps the deck get offensive out of no where. I had my doubts, but it definitely pulls its weight against blue. I have quite a few control players in my meta because 50% of our area was on twin before the ban.
>Overall, not bad. Nothing ground breaking,
I agree. Its still a ton of fun to play!
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>>49390948
>It's a no skill deck

Yeah, if you're terrible with it. Which 90% of burn players are. Yes, sometimes you get free games with burn, and the deck runs on autopilot. And then you have to play actual games where the margin of victory is so tight that one misplay fucks all chances of winning a game. Not to mention it's incredibly reliant on a quality opening hand, your mulligans are usually terrible, and it's incredibly difficult to play from behind because your topdecks are usually pretty poor. To win consistently with burn takes a ton of skill.

What really takes more skill: burn, or a deck like Scapeshift, that has top decks that just win a game from almost any board state?
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>>49392450
as a scapeshift player, I will say that burn is probably harder to pilot at peak efficiency.
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>>49392337
I'm not saying it's going to happen often, but I've had it happen to me. I switched onto RUG scapeshift after the pod ban. Feels terrible when you realize that you're just short of the win because you've drawn 8 or 9 mountains.

It also makes drawing valaukuts much worse, and makes you more reliant on scapeshift because a "natural" valakut activation much harder to set up.

I'm not saying this to shit on your deck, I'm just trying to point out those actually are real things you have to think of when playing.
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>>49392634
I know all that, and you're right. it can be difficult. I've been testing out a version that uses prismatic omen for games like that. Fortunately, the meta is so linear right now. You rarely need to worry about drawing the red half of your lands.
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>>49392234
There was a 6 week period in my local meta where about half the players at my lgs were on B/W tokens. Siding in Blasphemous Act with Reckoner was one of the most satisfying choices ever.
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I am bringing hyperjank T3 winning to FNM after Kaladesh drops.

>T1 Black Mana, Paradise Mantle, Night Watch Lookout
>T2 Blue or Black Mana, Thoughtseize/Inquisition/etc, equip Paradise Mantle, keep blue for counter
>T3 Freed from the Real, infinite drain enemy

Incoming Night Watch Lookout ban.
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>>49392746
My bad, is it Night Market Lookout?

B
1/1
Whenever X is tapped, each opponent loses one life and you gain one life.
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>>49392746
>"...Lightning bolt?"
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>>49392746
Getting a three-card combo comprised of three different card types (meaning it dies to Bolt, or any creature, artifact, or enchantment removal) consistent enough to get any card from it banned would be a sight to see.
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>>49392856
On T2 I can float U off Paradise for instant countering or just go with B to use Thoughtseize, Inquisition, Duress... Getting rid of removal. Also, I don't expect anyone to... Expect this.
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>>49392168
>3x Thundermaw hellkite
>2x storm breath dragon
I've always found this to be wrong. This is modern, not kitchen table. These might be strong threats but more often than not they sit there dead in hand.
I'd never run more than 1 in my list ever again.
Faithless looting is straight card disadvantage as well
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>>49392168
i advocate:
4 relics main
at least 1 pia and kiran nalaar main, some lists are running 3-4.
4 stormbreath before the first thundermaw. pro white is frequently relevant
cut looting, maybe for more jets
pyrite spellbomb/kozilek's return and roast somewhere in the 75. i think roast is better than wrath.

As far as cluttering the 4-drop slot, most lists run some form or ramp, be it mind stone or simian spirit guide. i personally like ssg because of possibility of fast moons and surprise bolts but it's really up to you.

Also, February is pretty far off. the meta could be different by that time
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>>49392895
"If I have 4 exact cards plus the mana to sequence them properly I can beat 1 lightning bolt"
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>>49392895
So you need to draw 3 distinct cards in the first three turns, and hope your opponent doesn't have multiple removal spells or disruption of their own.

Solid plan.
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>>49392895
>I can float U off Paradise for instant countering

Howdy.
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>>49392746

not when on my turn 2 I cast a heartless summoning recurring two Myr retrievers and then grapeshot you for infinity using a simian spirit guide and mox opal

incoming Myr retriever ban!
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>>49392084
Grafdigger's Cage, mulligan aggressively.
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>>49392084
>How does my uninteractive deck beat a linear combo-aggro deck?
By drawing the silver bullets you boarded in.
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>>49393376
>>49393376

New thread
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>>49392895
If you ever see a creature and you're not sure why it's in a deck, you kill it.
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>>49366983
In Lantern Control Inventors Fair replaces Sea Gate Wreckage and Aether Hub is just a more affordable Tendo Ice Bridge.
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>>49388065

Is CoCo reliable to hit two creatures with that many spells?
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