Jonah Orion in DoW3

>>49359675
Didn't he die in the last mission of Retribution or am I misremembering things?

>>49359693
You see his "corpse" on the road to Kyra's arena after Gabe gets smashed, yes.

But it seems like he survived as well.

My first reaction upon seeing it was that it seemed they exaggerated his lips to an almost caricature like state.

Does anyone else see this?

>>49359675
That fat flying baby is.... fat?

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>>49359848
Not really.
They hust pop out more since they're fairer than his skin.

https://sketchfab.com/models/f248e38a1dba46439c6c59af6b4b60e9

>>49359926
>>49359838
His face does look a little fucked up here.

>>49359675
He seems big. Is he going to be a Champion along with Gabriel "Slam dunk terminator" Angelos and Miss Knight?

I am hoping for Captain Titus cameo.

>>49360149
I'm more hoping for commander Hairgel to come back.

>>49359675
I honestly thought he died during Retribution but it was never mentioned as we only saw his body.

Him being Chief Librarian is fitting as is Gabriel Angelos being Chapter Master. Hopefully we see Commander Hairgel and the rest such as Tarkus and Thaddeus.

>>49360227
Tarkus, Martellus and Cyrus are likely to be seen. Thaddeus will come back if Hairgel comes back. One can hope.

>>49360260
Hope so. I liked all of them for their different personalities. Hairgel should be Captain of the 3rd Company as he should take Gabriel's old position.

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Yesssss
Every character that's confirmed to be returning from the previous game gives me more hope for our Lord and Savior, Martellus.
Please, DoW3, grant me the new and improved Master of the Forge with Servo-Harness Martellus.

And Davian Cool if you can manage.

>>49360286
Or Thule's, who was captain of the 4th IIRC.

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>>49360288

>>49360288

DoW 3 is shit.

It plays like League of Legends.

Very far from the action of DoW 1 or the graphics and realism of DoW2

It will disappoint fans dearly.

In some cases, its worse than Eternal Crusade.

>>49360307
I'll start a list of remaining members.

+Confirmed+
Gabriel Angelos
Jonah Orion

+Not Confirmed+
Commander Hairgel (I would call him Hargellus)
Tarkus
Thaddeus
Cyrus
Martellus
Davian Thule (still not sure whether he is dead or not but I doubt he is).

Any others?

>>49360346
That's nice dear.

>>49360346
I'd say the gameplay is basically the first few minutes of DoW I skirmish - you got a really strong unit and a few shit ones. Except in DoW III you get a few really strong ones and a shitload of shit ones. Couple that with the bad artstyle, horrible animations (the marines walk like retards, Gabriel's weebshit jumping and twirling,..), over the top particle effects and general lifelessness of the game (no sync kills and no dynamic squad movement/animations) and the game looks utterly disappointing.

Also fuck the developers, in one fan interview whoever they chose to defend the game is fucking retarded
>it's ok for Gabriel to jump around, 40k is retarded anyway
>tactical marines prance around like faggots so that you can distinguish them from assault marines who have a different movement animations (because obviously nobody uses the fuckhuge jump pack and the little squad icons to differentiate between them)
>the game is not that visually impressive because we want it playable on more PCs (that's also why there is so many over the top particle effects and everything causes an explosion for some reason, because that makes the game run better)
>the artstyle is totally not more cartoony than I and II or the tabletop, it just looks like that because the ice map contrasts it more
>we removed the retreat button because reasons and it makes sense from from the lore perspective because nobody in 40k retreats ever (and I personally disliked the retreat button, but their justification for removing it is complete bullshit)
>there are no sync kills, but we invented this new mechanic where all the random explosions cause enemies to explode so it's still awesome
>some more bullshit that I can't even remember now

>>49360410
Technically Hairgel was named Aramus in the novels but these were so aml over the place thanks to Goto that they can be considered non canon.

>>49360346
>[citation needed]
Even if you did playtest the game, the difference between Alpha and Release is pretty big.

>>49359675
I'm just waiting to see how they're gonna explain him being alive, because contrary to Angelos' existence, getting hammer fisted by a Daemon prince is gonna fuck you up

>>49360870
We didn't see him getting fisted.
He was found quite far from the fisting actually. They'll probably just say he was left for dead.

>>49359675
>and Solaria
I kind of don't like solaria. She seems forced for a variety of reasons.

>>49359926
That beard makes him look awesome.

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I can't wait for the return of this glorious bastard.

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>Everyone hype about people coming back

>Literally no confirmation on Commander Hairgel and Thaddesus coming back from their crusade in the eye of terror

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>>49359926

>Gabriel im getting to old for this shit

>>49360288
>Martellus
>not playing none_purer.voxpic and having him go traitor
>not being able to stay with the chapter

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>>49359675
WE

>>49361659
Fuck off.

>>49361715
>SJW: the post

>>49361723
Jonah is based and your meme being anti-PC doesn't excuse it being stale. Kill yourself.

>>49361782
>Marry Sue chapter
>dindu
>based

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>>49361823
You're a mong

>>49361659

The Inquisitor in DoW 1 was black

Jonah was in the game before this PC bullshit.

Stop acting like an SJW

>>49361823
>Blood Ravens
>Mary Sue
>Have been up to shady shit since Kronus
>Lost about 50% of their strength on Kaurava
>Recruiting worlds fucked over by more than a decade of conflict
>Half the surviving members turn traitor and start a civil war that kills even more
>Distrusted and disliked by a fuckton of other chapters
>Barely even a thing outside of the games

Aside from somehow picking up fucking Forgebreaker and Custodes gear, they've had it pretty rough.

>>49361876
>The Inquisitor in DoW 1 was black
So what?
>Stop acting like an SJW
Nice projections

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>>49359838
>But it seems like he survived as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveHagB16Cc

Either they retconned it or judging by the cryptic cinematic trailer they are in some kind of afterlife purgatory.

>>49361898
>Jonah betrayal video
You know he wasn't the canonical traitor, right? He shows up in Retribution as a loyalist.

>>49361924

Ah right i forgot there were different ones but only one canon.

>>49361891
>>Blood Ravens
>hurr muh Thousnad Sons loyalists
>defeated hive-fleet without any help
>was totally corrupted
>chapter was saved by Angelos plot-armor
>without any consequences from the Imperium
>not marry Sue

>>49361891
>>49361876
Just ignore the retard and it will go away

The /pol/yp will feed on bad attention to flourish because it's the only way he knows how

>>49361936

Avitus FUCKING SADLY was the cannon traitor

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>still no chaos
>still no interesting factions at all

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>yfw the IG expansion has Stubs coming back

Sturn fags need not apply

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>>49360149

>>49362004

STAY DEAD YOU FOOLISH MOTHER FUCKER

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>>49362012

NO

>>49361891
Now let's be fair, if the game is 100% canonical, which it obviously isn't and the gear info are just stupid jokes, the Blood Ravens would be Mary Sue as fuck
>muh TS loyalists
>they have all this awesome gear, even from Custodes and they are so awesome nobody does anything, even the Space Wolves just throw bitchfits and then ignore them
>they destroyed whole sectors of enemies all by themselves, including several Daemon Princes and Greater Daemons and a whole Tyranid fleet
>they even killed other Imperial forces, but again they are too cool for school
>in fact they are so cool Abaddon himself is interested in them
>they also know pretty much everything, except for who their founding Legion is (or maybe they even know that!)
>despite all of the setbacks they have encountered they have always came back

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>>49361938
>>Space Wolves
>Hurr muh Viking not!traitors
>defeated hive-fleet Colossus without any help
>is totally corrupt
>Blatantly attacks the =][=
>chapter saved by Leman Russ plot-armor
>without any consequences from the Imperium
>not mary Sue


>>Blood Angels
>hurr muh pure vampire waifus
>defeated hive-fleet without any help
>was totally black raged/red thirst'd
>chapter saved by Sanguinius plot-aror
>Without any consequences from the Imperium
>not mary sue

>>Dark Angels
>Hurr muh first legion """""Loyalists"""""
>defeated an undivided Chaos champion without any help
>was totally corrupted
>chapter saved by Lion plot-armor
>without any consequences from the Imperium
>not mary Sue


I can keep this going all day, bruv. All Space Marines are mary sues, it's what makes them Space Marines.

>>49362030
>whole Tyranid fleet

It was a splinter fleet. Which means it was 12 Hive ships. Do you have any idea how many splinter fleets were defeated by a motley crew of heroes in the canon?

>>49359994
I hate BF1 as much as the next guy, but it's one character.

Are there any other non salamander blacks in the entire series?

>>49362073

Ultramarines had a black guy in charge of their fleet.

Black Templars took in survivor Celestial Lions

I have a feeling Imperial Fists have black guys

>>49362030
>they have always came back
To a limited extent, and the most Blood Ravens we ever see on-screen never really exceeds company size. We have no idea how many Magpies are still around by DoW3, how fucked their recruitment rates are, or whether they're under new Inquisitorial scrutiny. The grim tone of the first trailer made it seem like their mistakes and losses would finally catch up with them.

>>49362073
Multiple Catachans, a sororitas, Celestial Lions, some unnamed guard regiment had a few in like the third codex or something, judging by their hair the Betancores too

>>49362063
>It was a splinter fleet. Which means it was 12 Hive ships
By what logic? Splinter fleet just means it's the remains of one of the main destroyed ones. The wiki just says that they can contain even a dozen of Hive Ships.
My other points still stand, BR are a straight up Mary Sue OC donut steel Chapter if you accept the games as completely canon.

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>>49361955
>no interesting factions at all
>in a game with the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death
Report to the Adeptus Arbites for re-education, citizen.

>>49361954
>FUCKING SADLY
why? he was the most interesting because of it

I mean I'd have liked to see cyrus bite it, but that's only because I think he's a twat and martellus gives me my dose of blum.

My only wish is when they add Chaos to the game, Avitus will turn up as a Daemon prince with a fuck HUEG kai gun and guardsman heads impaled on back spikes.

>>49362148
You're forgetting the Eldar, Orks, and Imperial Guard who were also fucking around the sub-sector at the time. We saw the Guard fighting Nids numerous times in the games and it stands to reason that the Eldar and Orks would be dragged into the fight as well.

So Hairgel and Thaddeus are just dead? They are not gonna come back?

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>>49362178
This. In DoW2, your space marines are basically just running around launching tactical strikes against the other factions to keep the sector limping along until the rest of the chapter arrives. The IG and PDF are doing most of the actual fighting; you just rarely see it because you're usually operating so far behind enemy lines.

>>49362178
Yeah and the Blood Ravens either came out victorious or whoever won completely annihilated the sector or planet or whatever while the BR managed to retreat in at least some numbers.
Even if they killed only half of the enemies you actually kill in the game that's really impressive. Adding all my other points makes them Mary Sues

>>49362030

Boreale lost most of the 3rd company

>>49362061
>All Space Marines are mary sues
I'm not sure where to place the Lamenters on the Mary Sue scale.

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>>49362176
>Avitus coming back
>mfw our hero is a cybered-up amputee who has just come back from grievous injury to rebuild his beloved band of brothers
You feel it too, don't you?

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Posting original Jonah for comparison.

>>49360692
>DoW2 novel
>Goto

>>49361143
>>Literally no confirmation on Commander Hairgel and Thaddesus coming back from their crusade in the eye of terror
Or whether that's even where they went.

>>49361891
>>Lost about 50% of their strength on Kaurava
30%
>>Barely even a thing outside of the games
They did get an Index Astartes article, which is more than many longer-established Chapters have, and one codex even named them a Chapter of Legend. In terms of actual (non-vidya) stuff they've done though, yeah, they're pretty irrelevant.

>>49362123
>judging by their hair the Betancores too
They were both explicitly black. Their entire planet even, in fact. And if you want another Abnett example, Mersadie Oliton from the first HH novels.
Really, they're actually all over the place, it's just not given particular attention because there's no reason to.

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>>49362284

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>>49362284
>They did get an Index Astartes article
They're also mentioned in the latest SM codex

>>49362284

Angelos suspected Hairgel of being chaos corrupted at the end of Chaos Rising so he sent him and some other marines to the Eye of terror

>>49362148
>By what logic? Splinter fleet just means it's the remains of one of the main destroyed ones.

Don't be idiotic. A splinter fleet doesn't mean it comes from a destroy Hive Fleet.

The Tyranid codex says that Splinter Fleet just has around 12 Hive Ships.

There is a lot of examples in the fluff of factions and groups taking care of splinter fleets. The Farsight Enclave in fact utilized the same method that the Blood Ravens did to destroy the splinter fleet that attacked them.

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>>49362268
>waaah we're dying
>we do such great stuff but we're dying man
>we're too honorable for this universe, but please do not cry for us because those tears could be used to water thousands of crops to save thousands of normal humans
>did I mention that we're obviously the most based because we do one or two cool things and then beat ourselves up after? The fact that all our other losses are based around just being in the wrong place at the wrong time doesn't take away from the fact that we were based like twice
>please don't let the Emperor's light shine on me, because if it shined on someone else it could save thousands

Do you get what I'm saying here? They're sad, but only in a way that's supposed to make you pity them. It's like when people will ask you if they're horrible people, just to force you to be polite and say that of course they're not horrible.

>>49362284
>>49362284
>>Barely even a thing outside of the games
>They did get an Index Astartes article, which is more than many longer-established Chapters have, and one codex even named them a Chapter of Legend. In terms of actual (non-vidya) stuff they've done though, yeah, they're pretty irrelevant.

Are we being invaded by /v/ and /pol/? The Blood Ravens have a character + model from the new Deathwatch vs genestealer board game releases. Also the Deathwatch Blood Raven character got a short story explaining his backstory.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/known-unknown-eshort.html

Newfags and cross boardposters get out.

>>49362340
It was Kyras who kicked Hairgel out the sector. See the Hammer of the Nameless.

>>49362249
>and the Blood Ravens either came out victorious
Through combined arms tactics, cooperation with other sub-sector Imperial forces, and generally doing what every other Space Marine is expected to do. Their victory/survival seems pretty reasonable and justified, especially if you've played intelligently and/or abused the shit out of Cyrus, Tarkus, and the banner heal.

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Are they gonna include Thaddeus?

He felt the most human of the marines to me, even if he was surprisingly ignorant for a sergeant sometimes. I want my boy back.

>>49362073
Cadian blood has a black/arabic commisar.

>>49362410
>Banner heal
Man that shit was the main reason I wouldn't put the Commander in Terminator armor.

>>49362369
>The Tyranid codex says that Splinter Fleet just has around 12 Hive Ships.
At minimum. I thought you liked to be exact.

>>49362405
Forgot about him, it was an honest mistake. Calm down, Carnac.

>>49362095
There was a short story with a squad of ten that took the time to emphasize they were all from different planets and had different colored skin, and at least one was a desert worlder. I think they may have done something similar with a short story with some scouts.

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>>49362530
I.AM.CALM.

I am suppose to believe that somehow you *forgot* about this guy? The guy who has appeared in the artwork of recent DW releases multiple times. The guy whose kneecap has the words "Vidya" on (reference to Azraiah Vidya) which sparked a little storm here?

No, this was intentional. You hate the Blood Ravens. You want them to be irrelevant. Or you are a /v/fag and should go back.

>>49362721
Wasn't there some old pre-videogames lore where the Blood Ravens got into a conflict with some sisters?

But we don't need them to be rubbing shoulders with huge chapters and getting involved in gigantic events. The Blood Ravens can be a perfectly good minor chapter, and a bit of a self-insert for the player and their favorite chapter.

>>49362850
>Wasn't there some old pre-videogames lore where the Blood Ravens got into a conflict with some sisters?

I don't think so.

By the way, the CS Goto Dawn of War novels were removed from the BL site. Only them, though , CS Gotos other works are still for sale. Any ideas why?

>>49363024
A slow purge has started. At least, that is what I hope.

>>49362268
I know it's tvtropes but I'm pretty sure there's one for sympathetic sues who just have life shit on them and you're supposed to feel so bad

>>49359675
>And as Master Librarian of the Chapter if you please.
You gotta be shittin me if you telling me that is the best the blood ravens have to offer when it comes to powerful librarians.

He didnt seem that powerful to me.

He should become a librarian dread thought.

>>49360410
Sargent Coralis?

Anyways This is a true missed opportunity. Jonah should had been a Librarian dreadnought.

>>49365167
They didn't had much considering what happened in Retribution. Also Gabe is no psyker.

>>49359675
he's black ergo dead in canon i'm not joking

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>>49361891
>picking up Forgebreaker
So they have my hammer, do they?

>>49362073
Some Catachans, Celestial Lions, and if you count the now-dead RPGs, some of the Maccabian Janissaries guard regiment*.

*maybe, the only picture of one without their mask was a black woman, iirc, so they might be all black, or not. Who knows.

>>49366363

You could argue some Kreigers are black.

Remember the planet was said to be a peaceful one before the heresy started

>>49366292
Yes, though IIRC, it's a rare drop, so the real question here is how the fuck some random mook from the Black Legion or Alpha Legion stole it in the first place so that he could drop it in Sub-Sector Aurelia. Also a volume of the Book of Lorgar, though nobody really knows if it's one of the master volumes or just a copy.

>>49366363
One of the Verghastite scouts in Gaunt's Ghosts was also black. And given the variety of worlds controlled by the HH Ultramarines and Imperial Fists, it's logical that they'd have a variety of skin tones. Same goes for the HH World Eaters, who recruited from lots of places.

>>49366406
>Book of Lorgar.
Maybe Kyras lost it when he was too distracted with that eldar soulstone from Kronus.

>>49362411
They should do, and HairGel/Aramus too..
People where asking for them on the DOW3 forums.

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>>49366498
>>49362411

From what we know

The Cannon ending to Chaos rising was the neutral one BUT Gabriel still labeled hairgel as a traitor so in order for hairgel to redeem himself he had to go on a penitence crusade in the eye of terror for 100 years

They said Thaddeus is with him since he trusted hairgel

>>49361968
Daily reminder: Stubs ran like a coward instead of fighting to the end, like a true champion if the Imperium. He is also guilty of having the blood of both Sororitas and Astartes on his hands, and deserves nothing but a BLAM'ing by the commissar


https://youtu.be/9Z1fET8UEvM

>>49366525
They obly said that Avitus was the traitor was Hairgel got kicked of the sector by Kyras.

>>49366578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_to6Rru5sQ

>>49366396
Nah, I like my Kriegers near ghost-white pale sick freaks who only live so that they may die for the Emperor.

Everything else's fine though.

So Sturnn and Alexander are dead

This leaves Stubbs or Castor to return in the IG DLC.

OR we go way fucking back and they bring back Commissar Holt the OG IG commander

>>49362073
Chris Wraight's Blood of Asaheim / Stormcaller series featured black Sororitas.

You'd think pairing pious black SoBs with pagan space vikings would be Deus Ex level social commentary. Pro tip: it wasn't. It was fucking badass.

>>49366643
Or they could add a completely new Guard leader. Fingers crossed for a non-Cadian, non-Krieg regiment. The lesser-known Guard regiments need some love, too.

>>49366698
Elysians when?

>>49366715
A multi-regiment Guard DLC with a variety of play styles would be fucking sweet.
>Elysians
>Valhallan Ice Warriors with unique commissar skin
>Tanith Ghosts with unique commissar skins
>Tallarn
>Harakoni Warhawks
>Praetorians
>Motherfucking Mordian Iron Guard

The potential is endless.

>>49366698

Colonel something Catachan?

Lord Tank Commander Al-something Tallaran?

Captain Something Elysain?

Or they shill the Scions which actually might not be a bad thing since it might actually give them personality/character for once

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>>49366740

Actually funny story about this.

Remember how Catachans were units in Retirbution? Compared to fucking everything you had Catachans sticking out for some reason

There are voice lines in the files with units mention Tallarn,Elysians, and Death Korps

Death Korps WERE added but they were DLC skins the other 2 were cut content supposedly

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Say what you want about some of the shit in DoW

Some of these character interactions get to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_vcm7eKIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIu4jUJriUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cno-_CM0yyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKIAMAqGNIY

Some of the writing in this game surpasses Black Library but then it turns to shit but those moments where its good its really fucking good

>>49366853
A personal and (I think) underrated one is near the end of Retribution as the Orks. The final mission's description is only Kyras giving his (totally awesome) speech, but Bluddflagg adds a little answer:
>Mistah Nailbrain, all hands of deck! It's time to finish this spiky zog!

>>49362073
Ciaphas Cain is banging a black chick at the start of book 4, before he got pulled in with the Russians.

>>49366207
He apparently had a miraculous survival from what seemed to be mortal wounds.

Inb4 Demon Corruption

>>49366784
What could have been...

>>49366578
pretty much.
As far as we know Aramus/hairgel and Thaddeus could had been outside of the sub sector aurelia wipping or gathering the other remaining Blood raven companies and fleet etc..

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I hope that either Relics cuts the fucking bullshit out or this game dies and burns them for turning into a dogshit company after DOW 2. Only three factions in the first DOW game (are you fucking kidding me? both first titles had 4, they need to add another and for FREE), they're clearly catering to the MOBA crowd/utter retards who can't fucking distinguish units by the weapons they're carrying and have to look at stupid things like the retarded bunny hop pattern the unit moves in, worse cover mechanics than even DOW 1, pretty much abandoning ALL improvements DOW 2 made and making things even worse than DOW 1 in terms of mechanics/simplicity, and adding fucking retarded animations for seemingly everything. Hell they even added blatant warnings whenever somebody pops a special ability because you, the player, is obviously a complete retard and incapable of noticing when an Imperial Knight is about to fuck your shit up.

Why the fuck can't I just get a 40k game as good as Total Warhammer.

>>49366784
There where voice files for Vostroyans actually. They where going to make them as a skin pack but thq died.

>>49359675
what the FUCK is that thing behind him

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>>49359675
Damn. Black dudes actually look pretty cool as Space Marines

>>49366853
I always liked O'Kais vs Thule

I wish all Tau were like O'Kais. What's his canonical end?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHhS5IkRR0

>>49369444
looks gross isnt it?

>>49369444

Looks like it's supposed to be a cherub. They're servo-skulls, but made out of a baby instead of a skull, basically.

You see them in quite a bit of Imperial art, actually.

>>49369594
jeez, 40k is sure stupid sometimes.

>>49369621
>not wanting a lobotomized baby to fly around and hold shit for you.

>>49359693
You're probably not wrong, but Space Marines are fucking hard to kill.

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>>49369621

you dont know the half of it

>>49369569
Farsight enclaves puts him in stasis until he's needed again.

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>>49369569

>Do the deaths of yours mean so much to you? Are you that weak?

>>49361778
implying they wont have a completley different voice actor and make it a completley different character like Slam Dunk Angelos

>>49370000
>Slam Dunk Angelos
I would actually be okay with Jonah suddenly being voiced by Charles Barkley.

>>49362411
It's pretty explicitly stated IIRC that Thaddeus IS the most human of the marines, because a number of the psychological effects of being a posthuman superman either haven't come into play yet, or have just started to. I seem to recall a conversation where Thaddeus says "hey guys, I used to feel a rush from combat, now I just feel really serene, is this normal?" and they basically tell him "yup, this is the beginning of marine puberty, get used to becoming steadily more inhuman".

>>49370092
Ah, found it -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_vcm7eKIc

>>49370125

This shit is more deep than most of the trash BL shits out

>>49370092
>serene
Kind of funny then that unit chatter shows everyone having a blast during combat. Except Tarkus and Cyrus, anyway.

>>49362319
>black
>tall
I bet Orion is the best space marine basketball player. I bet he can play 1 on 1 with Vulkan.

>>49360557
>>it's ok for Gabriel to jump around, 40k is retarded anyway
thats not wrong in any way whatsoever.

Guess what faggot, all the tactical realism and small unit scale led to dawn of war 2 being called a fucking MOBA.

So they turned it into a more warcraft 3 style with squads.

people like (You) were the cancer that killed dawn of war with your emphasis on basebuilding and having RNG kept to a minimum because of ESPORTS.

>>49362721
>vidya
>sanskrit for knowledge
>morons think it is called videogames.
Chapter that is all about hoarding forbidden knowledge, founded by a person whose origins are cryptic and is all about hounding out knowledge.

>>49360346
>Very far from the action of DoW 1 or the graphics and realism of DoW2
>graphics and realism of DoW 2
>realism of DoW 2
>realism
>DoW 2

>>49370498
>inb4 anons throw a hissy fit because devastator marines had to be deployed in MP

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>>49362406

>>49370442
Wow faggot, way to miss my point and still be wrong anyway. The justification for Gabriel jumping across the map while doing backflips and twirling his hammer was basically "well 40k is retarded anyway". How is that not wrong? That's like saying well 40k has Titans and all the Tau weebshit in it, that means my IG Regiment consists of humans that are 7 meters tall.

I don't even know what kind of point you're making there. DoW III takes the worst aspects of I and II, makes a shitload of stuff worse and then removes the things that make DoW games unique compared to other RTS games.

>>49371358
>that means my IG Regiment consists of humans that are 7 meters tall.
An all ogryn regiment, then?

Or maybe you mean longshanks.

>>49371501
Ogryn and longshanks are, at best, still under 3 meters tall.

>>49369621
I take it you've only ever touched Dawn of War as your sole interpretation of Wh40k?

Because "sometimes" is an understatement of the century when it comes to this setting.

>>49359848
The same here, he looks like a minstrel show character in that pic.
It is slightly better in >>49359926 however

>>49361024
And hopefully his arch enemy the Beeehnblaade

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>>49366853
I personally think Isador"s death scene was pretty good as well.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0IRYJCRec

>>49361936
I know it would have been weird for avitus to go full khorne, but I'd be great if he just ran up to you and bitch slapped with the heavy bolter whilst screaming 'more corpses' louder and louder until the actual voice actor was foaming at the mouth and then died off
>>49361891
Have been up to shady shit since they were founded, they're founded from 30k loyalists, of course a few inquisitors will have disappeared, and there's only a thin line between librarians and relictors
>>49361024
IT IS THE SAHDOW SHWORD
IT IS THE IMPERAAATOR
IT IS THE GETCHIN
>>49360870
Martellus came back without telling anyone
>>49360164
He's on a penitent crusade in the eye of terror so he could reappear due to warp shenanigans. If they loved their old fans they'd let you import your chaos rising file to see if he comes back as a rightful agent of the emperor, renegade, spawn or daemon prince
>>49359994
He's not a nigger he's a well written character who happens to be black, that's when I'm fine with diversity in games. It's like the Thebes thread the other day, it's fine to have gay characters but don't introduce them as gay people introduce them as brothers in arms that would fall on swords for each other
>>49359982
Maybe it's artificer cataphracti and he got raptor jump feet with the rest of his bionics
>>49359848
Yep
>>49359675
>Big ol' red lips
Jonah was a cool guy don't turn him into Jim Crow
Also
>THICC cherubim
It's like they wanted all the black stereotypes at once apart from 'fruit on southern trees'
>>49359838
Gabriel looked pretty fucked up but bionics saved him, and I'm sure jonah's mind was strong enough to survive

>>49369569
He canonically survives. Rallys some of the Tau survivors and makes it off planet.

>>49372114
His quotes were pretty good too.
>"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."
>"There's no such thing as innocence only degrees of guilt"

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>>49369621
>>49371673
Even Dawn of War (1 at least) had the cherubim's cousins, servitors and servo-skulls. Plus the SoB organ tank, which also comes with a built-in servitor loader.

>>49373110
Ian wells sucks ass.
I dont know why relic hired Ironlore, they should have hired the guys of the witch hunters mod instead.

Soul storm its such a mediocre piece of shit, people only purchase it cause its last expansion and >muh big armies.
despite sucking at multiplayer, yet they play them vs the computer so how should they fucking know.

>>49372292
>He's on a penitent crusade in the eye of terror so he could reappear due to warp shenanigans. If they loved their old fans they'd let you import your chaos rising file to see if he comes back as a rightful agent of the emperor, renegade, spawn or daemon prince
We dont know.
He could had been away rounding up the rest of the chapter. And it looks like it will be that way anyways.

>>49361267
Ok, I was a little put off before, but I mean Danny Glover as a Space Marine? Sign me the fuck up

>>49361896
So got back to /pol/ faggot

>>49362376
The Lamenters don't really mope about it though. I think the provide a nice contrast to the Salamanders, who are also humanitarian space marines.

>>49373110
Speaking of DoW, are there any mods that update the Dark Eldar to their post-2010 look?

>>49375150
>Soul storm its such a mediocre piece of shit

It adds under-represented factions, gives you more of Dark Crusade campaign and fixes the atrocious balance somewhat.
As long as you like DoW, there is really no reason not to get it.

>>49369252
>Why the fuck can't I just get a 40k game as good as Total Warhammer.

Because the Total War engine can't really handle anything more complicated than Napoleonic era engagements.

>>49366363
If memory serves their fluff is that they're pilgrim volunteers from around the galaxy who just go to Maccabeus

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>>49375648
How about Wargame 30k/40k? Or a Paradox grand strategy title?

>>49375648
>>49376716

How about no strategy games at all

>>49376716
How about Deathwing?
It promises a lot more than DoW3.

>>49376745
>no strategy games
>about a tabletop war game franchise

>>49376844
I'm excited about Deathwing, but I'm more interested in strategy games than in shooters.

>>49376895
Strategy games died a lot time ago anon.

>>49376999
A man can dream, goddammit. A man can still dream of Horus Heresy Wargame.

>>49375643
>It adds under-represented factions,
In the most mediocre and broken way possible.

Fixes the attorcious balance? it just brought more problems to the table, including half assed gigantic maps and flyer units for a game designed to be ground battle.

That sir its the reason of why its shit.

Only faggs that play against the comp like it while the more competitive and multiplayer crowd prefer DC.

>>49370125
>>49370138

>Avitus being a loud bitch

I should have suspected back then that he was a heretic.

>>49377160
>while the more competitive and multiplayer crowd prefer DC.

I dunno, I've played the game online for a while and practically no one was playing Dark Crusade.

Then again, maybe you're talking about some DoW2 Elite-like mod?
Because Dark Crusade is definitely horribly balanced compared to Soulstorm.

>>49377160
DC has horrible balance. Soulstorm HAD horrible balance but they fixed it later on. No one played DC after that soulstorm patch. You are basically confirmed for being a shitter.

>>49377349

DC was the much preferred choice when Soulstorm initially came out and even after it had its balancing patch. Nowadays, DC is dead - but no one plays (or should play) DoW1 competitively anymore.

>>49359675
That cherub needs to lose some weight.