What's the most tacticool Chaos warband?

>>49313572
Tacticool would be either Black Legion or Iron Warriors. Both put a lot of focus on small teams of elite infantry that are specially equipped for specific missions. Their only major difference is their opinions on the Chaos Gods and their preferred fighting methods - BL is speartip shock assaults, while Iron Warriors are siege-breakers with elite vanguard infantry and demolitions experts.

>>49313572
Iron Warriors. They don't rely on daemons for everything and have to manage supply lines. Alpha Legion is probably another tacticool chaos force.

>>49315003
>Alpha Legion is probably another tacticool chaos force.

Eh, Alpha Legion is more cloak-and-dagger than Tacticool.

>>49313572
>average group waiting for the Totino's brand Pizza Rolls to come out of the oven

>>49315828

Two sides of the same coin. One could easily feed into the other and vice-versa.

alpha leigon

>>49316178
lewd

>>49313572
>h-hey, have anyone of you noticed h-how we kind of look e-evil?
>What do you mean brother?
>W-well, all these demonic runes, and purple/red lights and horns, spikes, that snake guy over there... Are we the bad guys?
>Of course not. The emperor is the bad guy.
>A-are you sure? I mean, good guys don't usually dress like this and ch-chant to strange gods d-do they?
>Mere coincidence, brother.
The denial is strong in chaos

>>49316672

>"Have you looked at our armor lately?
>"No, yeah, a little, why?"
>"It's got spikes on it."

>>49316767
>So, you are absolutely positive that we are not puppets of evil gods playing us against each other to destroy mankind so they may harvest our souls?
>Why yes, just look at this fellow in the red armor, brother. What a magnificient display of eagerness and aptitude. He is clearly ready to do battle for our great and noble cause.
>Y-you know, he seems a bit too much e-eager. I think he's frothing at the mouth? Why is he screaming all the time? Why does he want more skulls?
>It is nothing but a testiment to his courage, brother. It is a holy ritual.
>Look, that guy over there barely even looks human, are you sure you aren't in denial here? Horus hasn't made a whole lot of sense lately either.
>...Look, we are the good guys, ok? Remember how the emperor is false? FALSE?

Alpha Legion.

Masters of Tacticool and Subversion.

>>49316999
Was any of the chaos space marines ever sane? Did they not stop to think, and realize the shit they were doing? Or were their minds too far gone already? I mean, if you are a space marine, what is the likelyhood of you abandoning your indoctrinated beliefs and become murder-hobos led by totally-not-evil gods?

>>49316999
What would a relatable Chaos Warband look like?

I'm thinking Night Lords leading the "lost" part of "the lost and the damned." Go around sacking corrupt Imperial worlds, vengeance vs. forgiveness being a major theme. Go for all the rich assholes at the top, try and inspire the common people to rebellion, that sort of thing.

>>49317300
See, I don't exactly how you can reconcile them doing the actions they have done, but then being relatable and somehow sane as well. You might handwave this as still retaining "moments of clarity", but then that is really just any unrelatable madman with a lust for the blood of the innocent

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>>49313572
The ones pillaging the old world in the name of the dark gods instead of brooding like edgy faggots.

>>49317345
Well remember, while many of the current members of various legions ARE from the Horus Heresy, they do recruit new blood.

While someone like Honsou is an example of this going even further down crazy-lane, there's no reason that some kids or young men who came from those oppressed places could be recruited by the warband in the wake of an assault and eventually come to lead that warband on a path of bloody vengeance against those people who hurt him and his family in his youth (at least, that's how he would see it).

>>49317459
somehow I doubt this. Maybe if said person never, ever, is taken back to the eye of terror or granted "gifts"

>>49317502
A lot of the Night Lords aren't really daemon-y. Most despise the Chaos Gods and their servants.

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Blood pact

>>49317300
>What would a relatable Chaos Warband look like?

fight for humanity but believe that the chaos gods are the help mankind needs to finally prevail against the xeno threat?

>>49317591
I don't see how anybody could think xenos are a greater threat than Chaos.

Not even die-hard Inquisitors from the Ordo Xenos itself would prefer a daemon incursion to an alien one. At least Tyranids and Necrons can be killed eventually, even if at great cost. Chaos can only be defeated by NOT fighting.

>>49317643
Because, if you think about it, all of the entirety of recent history, including the birth of the chaos gods, has all gone down from stuff happening in a single galaxy. Now, the tyranids are from outside this galaxy, and are implied many times to have simply eaten everything else. Heck, their might be much more powerful entities outside the galaxy than those who have been seen within it.

>>49317568
This. The sabbat regime is the only aligned warband to have a few self sufficient sectors + forge worlds outside the eye of terror under their command.

>>49317568
Did someone just take the hellsing nazi vampire art/design and slap a chaos symbol on it?

>>49317300
See I don't think Chaos is supposed to be relatable, unless you're an edgy kid wearing a jean cap and trench coat, cutting your wrist in class muttering to yourself how one day you'll build up the courage to bring your dad's revolver to school and show the jockeys how much of a cowboy you are.

>>49317794
>implied many times to have simply eaten everything else

when has that ever been implied?

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Who is the most fucked up Chaos marine? Lucius? Honsou? Fabulous Bill? Typhon?

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>>49317914
The only one we've received lore on.

The 40k universe is massive, anon. It's about YOUR DUDES.

But the Blood Pact are pretty metal, so it's OK. They're a big deal in their neck of the woods.

>>49317939
Depends, 2001 was when the book with the first mention of blood pact came out.

>>49318018
Fabulous Bill is so bad he got kicked out of the Emperors Children for being too fucked up.

Think about that.

>>49317944
Well then what's the point? Unrelatable Saturday morning cartoon villains are cool once or twice, but I don't see the appeal in having characters that are so boring and unrealistic.

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>>49317914
>>49317939
>>49318037


Not alot of artist renditions but most seem to think they have a german storm trooper look.


and this is the only GOOD Blood Pact work but the same artist since this guy is edgy AS fuck. but its chaos so whatcha gonna do

>>49318505
I love that guy, to be honest.

Just how hard the Russian tries to convince everyone Chaos are the good guys.

>>49319631

Then there is Kreig who tries to modernize chaos cultists too

>>49318018
Fabius Bile, a cunt of such tremendous power that he seems to exist solely to piss off loyalist SM chapters. To date, I think Bile's most impressive accomplishment was gaining entrance to Commorragh and then getting advanced torture instruction by the Haemonculi.

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Sons of Sek are probably more actual tactical than Blood Pact

>>49320117

the nigger is literally a Saturday morning cartoon villain grimdark edition

>>49319631

>Naked flayed SoB on a raptor
>Chaos is the good guys

Yeah... no.

>>49317939
yes anon, and also if you look carefully you can also see some hints in the flavour of line work some of influences from Metzen's illustrations throughout warcraft 2 - 3

>>49320234

And as >>49318139 said, he actually got KICKED OUT of the Emperors Children for being too fucked up.

Do you know how hard it is to get kicked out of the club that exists literally to do the most depraved shit imaginable, for being TOO DEPRAVED? It's insane.

>>49317300
Relatable chaos warband coming right up.
Give me time to write.

>>49322002
>>49317300

>Name
Crimson Phalanx

>Allegiance
Khorne

>Blessings
Low.

>Common Blessings
Weapons of Chaos: Daemon bolters, etc.
Deadly Protrusions: teeth, tentacles.

>Headquarters
Fleet based

>Structure
Platoon level element worth of Marines but still heavily reliant on cultists

>Recruitment
Harbors fleeing traitors of the Imperium
(Still dying of attrition despite this)
Uses cultists within the war band who show the appropriate fervor and potential.

>Combat Doctrine
Shock and Awe

>Exalted Champion
Champion of Chaos: Dušan Jovic, warband leader.

>Deed
The Champion single-handedly wiped out the warband of a rival Chaos God

Formerly known as the Emperor's Beacons, the chapter was embroiled in a month-long siege of a hive world in their home system. A small force of Word Bearer cultists and World Eater marines descended on the planet, looting and burning as they went.

The Beacons were soundly crushed in the first engagement and the survivors regrouped to defend the capital. They held out for about a month, the chaos forces happy to pillage their way across the planet and leave only a token force preventing communications and escape.

Desperate to save the lives of his people and cut off from the Emperor's guidance, Chapter Master Dušan Jovic took up the Dæmonic power axe of a fallen World Eater champion, and urged his marines to follow his example.

Newly empowered by Chaos, the Beacons rushed enemy encampments and the Chapter Master struck down the leaders of World Eater and Word Bearer forces alike.

>>49322251
Continued

Knowing his forces were too weak to prevent the decapitated Chaos forces from rampaging across the planet, Jovic took a last desperate step. He took the armour of the World Eater champion and donned it, his few surviving marines following the example. They collectively then ordered a retreat, gathering the Chaos forces together and hunting down those too blood-crazed to hold back.

Since that moment, the remnants of those Bearers, Eaters and Beacons (as well as their cultist followers) have roamed between worlds, wreaking untold havoc on the forces of chaos. The once loyal Beacons long ago became the masks they wore and join in the slaughter as readily as their old foes, but never attack an Imperial settlement unprovoked.

The name of Crimson Phalanx represents how through blood, they shield those of the Imperium. It's mostly self-delusional thinking by the ex-chapter master desu, but they've protected more than a handful of Imperial worlds by slaughtering Orks and rival warbands before they could threaten the Imperium.

Khorne's just pleased that the Imperials went from fighting a Chaos invasion to LEADING it, and doesn't care how many of his followers die from that.

>>49322277
>He took the armour of the World Eater champion and donned it
Wait, why? How would that benefit them?
>they've protected more than a handful of Imperial worlds by slaughtering Orks and rival warbands before they could threaten the Imperium.
>Khorne's just pleased that the Imperials went from fighting a Chaos invasion to LEADING it, and doesn't care how many of his followers die from that.
I normally don't like when people try to make Khorne more interesting since they usually completely miss the point of Khorne (especially the "muh marshall honor" shit), but this I can get behind. This is totally the kind of thing the Blood God would engineer because he thought it was funny.

>>49322412
1. Because daemonic shit has better stats
2. Because the World Eaters would be less likely to kill them on sight if they looked like World Eaters.

Thank you.

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>>49317300
>Night Lords

Sounds more like a job for the Alphas. It's established they rely on/fight with human allies more then the other traitor chapters, and prefer unconventional tactics and precise targets. And some fluff had them thinking they're still fighting the good fight.

>>49316672
>>49316767

I'm pretty sure chaos marines know exactly what hand they're dealt. They're either stuck with it or are too power hungry to care

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>>49316672
Prepare yourself, for ADB is turning Abbadon into a victim of Chaos.

>>49317300
More like the Norscans from Warhammer Fantasy - at heart they're people with their own interests, lives and loves, they just also have to deal with Chaos bullshit from time to time. Yes, they worship the Gods but its a fact of life - they exist, they aid those that follow them, and they're worth honouring. Some in the band go a step further than that, and that's an respectable thing, but its not for everyone nor is that even that desirable. Its all very well leading the skull hunts and drowning your enemies in blood, but someone has to patch the tank hulls, work out the logistics of a raid and occasionally interact with the other warbands.

Normal Imperial humans are at least semi-relatable - they have families, friends, enemies, basic motivations like love, lust, greed, looking good in front of others, cowardice, everything. A loyal Space Marine is, by contrast, quite boring because bar a few exceptions they don't have a particularly broad range of motivations and most are quite happy doing their job (murdering things, training to murder things) and nothing else. A CSM, even with the Dark Gods whispering in their ears to indulge their worst inclinations, is free to think more for itself and each has a lot more to worry about. They've got to worry about things like ammo, repairing equipment, replenishing losses, navigating through a minefield of psychotic leaders who may or may not have your best interests at heart and companions who you've potentially had millennia to pick up aggravating habits. You've got to interact with "mortals" a lot more, and unless you're someone like Abbadon there's even going to be some that don't owe you anything and you have to respect. Its all very well the Apostle saying you should sacrifice the entire bridge crew as a sign of thanks, someone still needs to fly the ships, which means finding food, water...

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I believe it would be sons of malice corpse fuckers and heretic worshippers!!

>>49315828
Haven't you read the AL-related HH books?

They are the definition of tacticool.