EDH/Commander General

Am I an absolute madman for wanting to make an EDH cube draft?

>>49302660
Wouldn't that just take a huge amount of work and end up being less fun than either a normal draft cube or normal EDH?

>>49302660
Yes

That would likely be astoundingly expensive and not very fun

>>49302675
I think the challenge of developing it sounds fun, plus it sounds like a wonderful way to use bulk cards that one wouldn't normally use

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X for RW will never be good

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>>49302633

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Obligatory "post them," post.

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So I whipped up a Nin, the Pain Artist deck recently and it has been rather fun to play.
I am looking to see if there is anything interesting or fun for me to use to help better the deck.

>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/progress-through-pain/

Which commander allows for the most avenues to victory? The most toolboxy

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>>49302724

Teysa = janky voltron
Kruphix = card draw addiction
Sidisi = goodstuff/tutor whichever depends on my mood
Jhoira = janky cheating eldrazis into the field
Sevala = grouphug deck, but cheating tokens into the field
Xenagos = Zoo trampling horde
Avacyn = boardwipes.dec

>>49302724
Is your Sydri list available for viewing?

>>49302823

Not that guy but check this one out:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/how-to-be-a-galvanic-genius/

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>>49302823
Yesh.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/06-09-16-sydri/

>>49302835
>>49302838
Thanks lads, excellent taste

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>>49302703
At least RW isn't the same shit like mono red

t. U/G who beats mono red bitches daily

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>>49302724

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>>49302835
This one is good too, contains pretty much every feasible thing you can combo with Sydri if you're able to spend that much on all of those cards.

>>49302838
My deck here like many of my others is within my budget though which is usually anywhere within 200-400 American Freedom Coupons.

>>49302855
Thanks

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So I made a Mina and Denn, Wildborn deck, but it feels kinda, I dunno, scattered? Not quite focused enough? I'd like some advice if possible.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-09-16-wildborn/

Obviously I'm missing some stuff, a couple of Overrun effects and probably Nissa, Worldwaker, but this is the best I could do with what I actually own.

>tfw you remand an Ancestral Visions

unf

I'm not super into edh but I'd like to have a whatever-deck to carry with me to FNMs and stuff for whenever the opportunity to get in some edh games on the side arises. I don't feel like spending much time on deckbuilding nor hunting down cards specifically to play them in an edh deck. Would buying one of the precons and upgrading it with whatever goodstuff that happens to find itself in my collection serve this purpose? Power level is irrelevant, I just want to be able to join in the average edh gang without feeling too handicapped.

>>49302823
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sydri-combos-2/

This is my current revision

>>49302962
Yes, as long as they aren't super competitive some of the precons are pretty nasty, special mention goes out to meren, oloro and prossh.

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>>49302962
Get the RW precon or the GB precon from the last set.

Meren was the absolute best precon you could get last year if that matters.

>>49302875

Dunno why there's no Pili-Pala to go infinite with Grand Architect though.

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>>49302875
>2x Akroma's Memorial

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>>49302724
Slightly updated.

Also, unpopular opinion: I actually am fine with Nin as my artifact Commander and I'm having very low expectations when they reveal the upcoming UR artifact Commander. Unless the new Commander has some form of tutor OR a way to dump mana, I'm sticking with Nin.

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>>49303007
>>49303006
Don't quote me, not my deck I was just commenting on it. you guys meant to quote >>49302835

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>>49302974
>that list
>those alters

Some top tier stuff my man

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>>49302724
Template

>>49303075
Ah man. I'll work on this next I suppose.

>>49303033
Oh, thanks a lot. My friend did the alters for me in exchange for all the extra paints I had when I changed to a different company for my miniature painting.

Outside of the aler for sydri, my favorite that my artist friend has done for me is the magus of the moon on this deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shitlorddec-1/

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>>49302724
>>49303075
Slightly updated. Got my friend in for his first few rounds of EDH today. His Grimgrin is surprisingly good for a first commander deck, but he's always been a strong player so it was to be expected. Says he wants to build build a five color Scion deck next out of a draft deck he still has left over from Dragons of Tarkir. Should be interesting.

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I am building Xenagod but I am not sure which and how much ramp I should be running. I do not like the idea of running mana dorks because they are completely irrelevant in the late game but I might as well need them because of my curve? what do you guys think?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-08-16-xenagos-god-of-fatties/

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>>49302724

Anyone mind helping me make cuts in Karametra?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-09-16-karametras-harvest/

Picked up Lotus Cobra, Council's Judgment, and Song of the Dryads today. I know I definitely want Cobra in, but I'm not 100% on the others.

>>49303358
How do you store all of your decks, anon?

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>>49302724

>>49303375
I like to use those clear hard plastic 100ct ultra-pro boxes so I can see what deck is what at a glance.

>>49303450
Ah cool you use ultra pro sleeve stuffs then. I wanted to use those but I ended up going with Ultro Pro Satin towers.

finally gonna try brago as a commander what with all these etb for energy counters in kaladesh. I have a few questions about his blink ability though. If I detention sphere an oblivion ring then blink all my permanents, does the o-ring etb with nothing to target on my field? Also, if brago hits a player and he activates spear of heliod, can I blink brago in response with his own ability to dodge that destroy effect?

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>>49302860
Kjeldon Firebombers says hello, ramp scum.

>>49303014
Can you post your 5 color aura deck with the sliver at the helm. That's the coolest concept for a deck I have heard in a long time

>>49302633
I'm working on a Reaper King Stax deck. I don't have a list right now, but what are some suggestions for it past the usual Stax and Reaper King tools?

I'm already planning on including most of the viable scarecrows/changelings. I have my Smokestacks, Ensnaring Bridge, Winter Orb... You name it. If it goes in Stax normally, I probably have a copy of it. I've never tried this five color game before however; I'm a bit lost as to what spicy tech to include (especially red and green).

>>49303471
For most of the sleeves I try to get dragon sheet mattes for their durability, but yeah those satin towers are pretty nice boxes.

>>49303538
For your second question, the Brago effect would go on the stack before your opponent has the opportunity to activate Spear first, so your opponent could respond to Brago's effect with the Spear's effect to destroy it. However, you cannot blink Brago "in response" to that effect. Also, if Brago re-enters after the blink, it wouldn't be a legal target for Spear.

>>49303538
I don't understand the question about O-ring, all of your permanents are back when O-ring is back on the field.
You can dodge the destroy effect, unless they're stupid and don't activate the spear in response to Brago trigger. If they don't and you decide to blink Brago anyway, the spear won't hit him anymore.

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>>49303573
In retrospect, I recognize haiku potential

Those fierce Keldon boys
fire bomb your filthy land base
blue green degenerate

I'm having a dilemma guys. Personal circumstances are turning me into a bitter person and my attitude is starting to spread into the time while I'm playing. Sometimes I don't even notice that I'm extremely irritable during EDH games. I've now acknowledged this and I'm going to apologize to my playgroup tomorrow. I don't want to make the game miserable for them.

Is there any tips that can help me keep my irritability at a minimum?

>>49303014
Post your Marchesa list?

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Best token producers for zada?
More Spell based, or more creatures ETB based?
How many rituals?

-A standard babby trying to learn edh

>>49303599
Oh, also, I'm not sure if should call it ScareStax or StaxCrow. Any input?

>>49303621

A better way to ask it is, if I blink a detention sphere that exiled a o-ring, in what order do they reenter the field?

I'm new to EDH. I've been reading up on decks, and I'd like one that's relatively cheap to build and works decently in both a group game and a 1v1. I'm interested in Stax, Pillowfort, and Eldrazi decks. Can anyone help?

>>49303664
First Sphere, then O-ring, since the exile is instantaneous and it's back on the field when the LTB-ability resolves. At that point you can't exile Ring with Sphere, but works the other way.

>>49303075
i feel like we're going to see a lot posted in a week when people actually finish filling it out, myself included.

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>>49303714
Eldrazi may be expensive but there are multiple forms of pillowfort you can do.

I'm not really sure what you're definition of "cheap," may be but here is my iteration of pillowfort as a WU spirit tribal that beefs up Geist or any other ghost you wish. It's proven effective in both groups and 1v1 and is under $200.

I'm sure plenty of others have great ideas too.

>>49303714
stax is far from budget and nobody wants to play 1v1 against it. eldrazi is meh unless you put money into it too, you that leaves your last option which is hardly fun in 1v1, but its the closest to what you described. Use edhrec.com and input commanders youre interested in running for ideas.

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>>49303769
>>49303714
Forgot to link it.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-03-16-spirit-tribal/

and as this anon said, >>49303776
edhrec is your best friend

>>49303714
>relatively cheap
>Eldrazi
Cut that option out senpai.

I'd probably recommend starting the GB Meren precon and then building around Mazirek, Gitrog, or Savra for stax. Pillowfort isn't as viable in 1v1 imo.

>>49303769
I like Geist. It's pretty cheap now, right?

>>49303800
yeah, especially since they sort of rereleased him in a duel deck.

>>49303714
Doran Big Butts? If you mean Pillowfort as in Treefolk with phat asses you might enjoy that

>>49303714
Favorite colors? Are you a Spike Johnny or Timmy?

>>49303796
Alright. Fair enough.

>>49303776
That makes sense.

Would a Lazav control/reanimator EDH be decent?

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>>49303831
someone needs to make an image of some sort for people who aren't familiar with those terms.

>>49303831
Esper colors, especially blue; Spike/Johnny.

>>49303823
I meant more of a stall/defensive type thing.

>>49303846
>esper colors

see

>>49302838
>>49302835

>>49303832
I've seen Lazav psuedo-tribal shapeshifters work pretty well. It seems a little matchup dependent, but it looked like a lot of fun to play.

>>49303845
I think a capped greentext summary of your image would work

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>>49303882
That's no fun though. I'll work on some meme image unless someone wants to do what you mentioned or make their own image.

>>49303776
In more advanced meta stax can be welcome, though, as combo decks won't win as fast and therefore are easier to disrupt. Of course mana/resource denial irritate many people who just want to play fatties in a battlecruiser meta.
I find stax really fun to pilot and somewhat fun to play against, depending on what kind of deck I am playing and what kind of stax is it.

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I have a long way to go, but I've been working on a Toshi Umezawa deck I could use some feedback on.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-09-16-toshiro/

>>49303896
I like your style, a little extra meme magic never hurts.

>>49302909
Get yourself more lands with Special ETB-triggers and Amulet of Vigor to abuse the hell out of your land-bouncing

>>49303902
My meta consists of two Jarad players, a Vorel combo player, a Zurgo aggro player, a Snakes tribal player, and a Reaper King combo player.

>>49303741

well shit. Here I though I could be a cool guy and blink my entire field so his o-ring can etb with no targets

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Why is he so perfect?

>>49303968
O-ring has to target, if it can. Opponent's have shit, too.

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>>49303573
>ramp scum

Sorry I don't ramp in blue green, I beat your shitty ass decks with infect and combos.

>>49303983
Anal Rodeo incarnate, literally perfect

>>49304018

yeah but if the brago blink etbs first, then he gets to rechoose exiling my stuff, unless I get to choose the order of etb

>>49303983
>>49302909
Is it me or does it feel like there should and Jund Landfall commander to play all these and Gitrog in.

>>49302974
God, I love this list. I'm so glad that tuned artifact decks pretty much run the same cards. I need to build this.

>>49304088
That'd be too perfect.

>>49303651
Go ETB token producers so there is synergy with Twimflame and Heat Shimmer. There are not many good ones unfortunately. You want creatures before, not after combat.

You want to roll Tempt with Vengeance, Goblin Fodder, Molten Birth, Krenko's Command, and Hordling Outburst.

All of those are cheap for Flashback with Past in Flames, or grabbing them with Goblin Dark-Dwellers.

No rituals besides Mana Gyser. You should instead run Gauntlet of Power, Caged Sun, Ruby Medallion. Most of your spells should be 1-2 CMC or free to cast.

Land that produce tokens or can be sacrificed for tokens are good as well.

>>49302909
1. Make Omnath the commander and moved M&D to lieutenant status
2. Add Azusa, Domri Rade, Courserof Kruphix, Crucible of Worlds, and Parallel Lives and DOubling Season
3. Outramp your opponent and watch your countless Omnath tokens sound your foe's dick to pieces

>>49303593
Unfortunately, the deck list isn't up at the moment. (Laziness is the excuse.) I can fill you on a few things: 1) The only "demigod Auras" I use are Favor of the Overbeing, (Flying/Vig), Gift of the Deity (Lure/Deathtouch), Steel of the Godhead (Unblock/Lifelink), and Runes of the Deus (Trample/2x Strike). I had all 10 of them but these four are the only relevant ones. Other Auras are obvious ones like Armadillo Cloak/Eldrazi Conscription/the like. Other than that it follows the same pattern as a Uril deck. I'm currently working on finding Enchantments that kind of mix up the gameplay a bit while retaining the Aura theme it has.

>>49303647
I haven't put up a list for Queen Bitch (again, laziness) but I will give you the Zurgo list before it became Queen Marchesa since a good chunk of it is retained through the transitioning process.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zurgo-helmsmasher-boardwipesuperfriends/
There are far less Planeswalkers and Boardwipes, and focuses more on Sunforger/Instants. The Planeswalkers I do keep all make tokens for themselves plus Ugin/Lilly v.1. Obliterate + Academy Rector is still a thing in this deck.

>>49304105
Thank you! It's been a labor of love for the past year and a half! Istill need to make room for a few more optimizations, like Imperial Seal (lul price tag). The deck plays pretty nicely, though.

>>49303800
Go for the dream. Invocation of Saint Traft and and moonsilver spear on him

>>49302974
If you brought this deck to my table I would never let you back into my house. Not sure if you realize but this is a casual format, bub.

>>49303646
Take a deep breath and contemplate on what exactly irritates you. If you know why then you can stop keep it from ruining the experience.
Just go:
"Deep breath"
Why am I angry?
Does it makes sense?
Does it have anything to do with the situation at hand?
If no, then calm down and relax. There is no need to be upset.

It works for me and hope you find it helpful.

>>49304503
Commander is a format where you can use almost every card in the history of magic in it. It's also a social format. Me and all my buddies have been playing Magic for 18+ years. This is casual to us. The term is relative based on your local playgroup.

Hey, a tangentally related question. Sorry if this is off topic, but I checked the catalog and couldn't find a better general to put this in:

I need money and I'm considering selling my Magic cards (mostly EDH stuff). What's the best way to go about this? I've sold cards to LGS before, but they have to resell the card, so you don't get the card's full value that way.

>>49304630
Ebay.

>>49304707
A possibility. One of the wrinkles about selling your collection is how to break it down. Most people won't want your whole collection unless its at a discount, but selling singles is more time consuming. I'm not sure what the best balance is.

>>49304716
I'd sell the more valuable cards in your collection as singles and then the rest in bulk, probably.

>>49302633

New Grenzo is so fucking fantastic as a commander.

>>49303358
Out:
Great Aurora, Boundless Realms, Archetype, Primeval Bounty, Rampaging Baloths

In:
Tooth & Nail, Craterhoof, Song of the Dryads, Bane of Progress, Courser of Kruphix

Paying 8+ mana should win you the game, not ramp out more lands.

>>49303910
Seems to lack wincons. I would cut some of the shittier and more situational instants like Treacherous Urge, the other Kamigawa legends, and Spotlight for Coffers, Nykthos, Expedition Map, and a couple more haymakers. The deck looks weak against spellslinger and control, so I would also like to see some stax effects like Bottomless Pit

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>>49303646
Just remember what makes you enjoy playing. But if your rage gets the best of you, play this commander as penance.

>>49305165
Maybe I'm just way too much of a Spike but I just can't understand how commanders like this could be fun to play as. Yeah, you're running the table politics etc etc, but you're never going to win. What's even the point in playing?

What are some fun budget Jund commanders?

>>49305200
>Infinite mana
>Suture Priest
>Give gorillion tokens away
I'm sure there's more interactions with him, but that's the most familiar one.

>>49305225
Kresh, Mario Brothers and Prossh

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Hey /edh/ I'm looking for some mono red sac enablers to get pic related into the graveyard quickly in my Zirilan deck. I have Fling and Barrage of the Expendables but I'd like to add more if there are any to increase the reliability. Any suggestions?

>>49305270
Ashnod's Altar is basically never useless

>>49305345
Oh damn this is exactly the kind of shit I'm looking for. Thanks!

>>49302660
They exist. Usually theres some funky rules around drafting, like draft commanders first and last pack is lands or something like that, but they're hella fun.

I've been playing a MonoB deck for roughly 2 years. Not too long ago, I got the Daxos precon and decided to build on it, but only proxied a deck to test, so far, and didn't like it all that much. Eventually decided to try out Gitrog. Yesterday was its first test run.

As a result, I'll be buying Crucible of Worlds instead of Serra Sanctum next month. Holy shit it's so fucking fun! Who else frogging here? Anyone wanna share secret mad techz for it?

Any up-to-date proxy maker websites? Bluebones doesn't have take the crown.

>>49303538
You cannot use Brago's ability to dodge a removal, because it is a trigger that immediately goes to the stack as it deals combat damage. By the time opponents get priority, the effect is already on the stack and any removal would resolve before the blink.

When it comes to o-ring, it is important to notice that it has two triggered effects: one that triggers when it enters the battlefield and another that triggers when it leaves. So if you blink o-ring (or cards with identical wording) with brago, bothe the ETB trigger and the LTB trigger are put on the stack st the same time and you can order them on the stack as you choose. In other words, you could have the o-ring exile a permanent before the last one comes back or vice versa. You cannot exile the same permanent because the ETB effect needs a target when its put on the stack and at that point the original exiled permanent hasnt left exile yet.

>>49303832
Lazav is a blast to play if a bit unpredictable.

>>49305270
Replace Goblin Bombardment for Fling. Shivan Harvest is fun too. Also theres Greater Gargadon.

How many of your decks stray from the norm?
Like a non-voltron Uril or a non-combo Ghave?

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i want to make a deck that uses these cards. what are my options?

other requirements
>must be fun
>must be somewhat legit
>more controlly than winconny, i don't want to be focused down

>>49305961
Literally any black commander

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>>49305961
This is the general you want. I guarantee its all of the things you want.

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>>49305961

>i want to make a deck that uses these cards

You have like a billion options that can survive on a sac theme.

I'm particular to Meren since she can run the sac-control shit along with a larger toolbox, but Mazirek is legit too, as is Shirei and mono-Sidisi and Teysa, and Ayli and old-Marchesa and Ghave.

Fuck, most black or part-black commanders can work with those cards, it's really a question of just how powerful and synergistic you want it.

>>49306063
ok well i'll narrow it down since i've got so many options

my last deck was mostly green so i'd prefer not to use that color

i also don't really like monoblack since i feel like it limits the deck to playing the same old black goodstuff as always

i also don't really like build-around or mana-heavy commanders, since in my meta, the response to someone casting a commander is "i vindicate it as it enters the battlefield" unless that commander is really goofy or cheap. i don't know if a shirei deck could work in my meta since she's on the high end of commander manacosts, and she looks somewhat build-around (not sure if she is)

i'm mostly looking at the orzhov colors right now since they lend themselves well to a controlly, saccy and lifegainy strategy, but sadly none of the orzhov commanders really do it for me. ayli seems nice in a couple of ways but her 2 sac abilities are low-impact and winmorey.

but thanks for the suggestions so far

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>>49306146

If you're looking at Orzhov then I'd definitely go with Teysa.

Cheap to cast, works great with the cards you wanna lose and has some really powerful combo potential with shit like Darkest Hour+Blasting Station or Darkest Hour+Ashnod's Altar+Blood Artist

She really powerful and really fun.

>>49302633
>Slobad is the OP
Fuck yeah

Has the red Gearhulk been spoiled yet?

>>49306548

No

Anafenza = Wienie tactics + pacifism-like cards + dream (orb) of winter
Laquatus = Easy peasy infinite mill combo deck
Jhoira = Get that Bringer of Red/Blue Dawn, Red Akroma/Dream Pillager/Myojin Red/Blue/Inkwell Leviathan/Isleback Spawn/Hateflayer
Barrin = Fuck your general! Bounce/counter deck. Slow motion + Reality strobe lock down.

>>49306190

I use breeding pit and attrition with her.

>>49305961
Endrek sahr, master breeder

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>Played card games throughout highschool/college
>Played Yugioh back before game went to complete shit
>Loved all sorts of toolbox decks
>A nice engine allowing one to search for the answer to the problem presented
>Since it was reactionary it made everygame interesting because of the different problems needing solving.
>TFW I now am playing more constructed Magic events
>Want to catch that "toolbox" feel with EDH
>Have no fucking clue where to look or how to go about it.
>40% of decks I see are just reanimation decks
>20% are infinite combo decks
>20% are just Goodstuff value decks
>Rest is just badcombattricks.dek

What are good "toolbox" decks for EDH? I want to build a deck with the ability to play and find answers to situations very quickly and be able to react while slowly working out a win con with the parts presented.

Anyone have some good ideas, I'm freaking lost in all the options. I was thinking Toshiro Umezawa or Dranu Lichlord as they allow me to turn my graveyard into a tool box but I wanted to see what other options exist. Also what win conditions could go along with these?

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Okay okay, answer this:

Extort gimmick deck

Awful jank, or fun jank, or fun AND good? (in a somewhat casual, control+creature heavy table)

>>49307358

Fun jank.

It's not even competitive in a casual environment, it's just too slow and costly.

>>49307385
huh

i was thinking of putting tons of extort stuff in an ayli deck and using it to be health taxman and board police. i'm currently doing it on xmage with some shitty deck and it's pretty fun, but it might be because i'm otherwise the most useless player on the board and no one has time to deal with me and my shitty cheap enchantments like blind obedience and bloodchief ascension

>it's just too slow and costly
not sure if it's really a problem since i can go heavy on control and just deal with individual things that screw me over, and the fact that the deck is so non-threatening and grindy is probably good in our meta where it's 4 players racing to victory every time using their build-around commander

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>>49306548

Oh look, red got a disappointing card.

What a shocker.

>>49307562
In Daretti its either drawing three cards or filling graveyard. But besides him its pretty shit tier.

>>49307562
bruh that is some sick rakdos tech right there

>vampiric tutor your 3 favorite fatties to the top of your library
>cast red gearhulk
>your opponent foolishly puts the cards into your grave
>he takes 40 damage from 3 eldrazi and then you can reanimate them immediately with feldon
>gg ez

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Last night I had a dream that the Brothers Yamazaki were breaking into my house, so I tried to stab the one that was standing in front of my window with a katana, but it turned out to be a fake, and the real brothers were holding my 9/11 Legendary Dog hostage. I was scared they were going to deal two damage to her.
and the day before I dreamed that I was part of a werewolf church who were trying to purge the zombies from our city

>>49307562
>not even haste
Motherfucker

>>49307255

Grave Consequences, Betrayal of Flesh, Devour Flesh + False Cure combo... that's all I can think of on a whim.

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>>49307562

>>49307595
There aren't enough CMC on three different Eldrazi cards to cause 40 damage though... and the ones with the Higher CMC also reshuffle your grace meaning Feldon don't do shit...

He is still golden in a Lord of Riots Rakdos deck though as you could do 6 damage, play Conduit of Ruin, reveal that Emrakul, the Promised End is going on the top, then play Gearhulk and force someone into bad choices. The deck also runs a lot of high CMC cards anyways due to Rakdos.

>>49307562
Would run in wanderer/10

>>49303983
I like how cheap it still is for how powerful the effect is.

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Not Standard Legal

>>49308002
TFW the gearhulk is the green one instead of the red one for my Darreti...

Disappointing, but the Walker and Gauntlet will look awesome in my deck. Wallets going to die getting them though.

>>49308032
Apparently there is going to be a part two in the reveal for these things so there may be more? also the ratio for getting them is:

The Masterpiece Series will exist at a rarity higher than mythic rare. For example, in Kaladesh, you will open a Kaladesh Inventions card roughly 1 out of every 144 boosters. (Technically, the Kaladesh booster pack says the ratio is 1:2,160 cards.) This is slightly more often than opening a premium mythic rare. These ratios may change for future sets.

>>49302633
> http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/deathtouch-commander-2/

This is my friend's current deck. What can he improve? Right now it's basically a pure Johnny deck, and I'll beat him every 4/5 times because he can't pull out the right card, or I disrupt him with board wipe and removal to poke holes in his strategy with my Athreos Sac and Lifegain.

>>49308002
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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Step aside Flashy mythic garbage
Real chase rare of Kaladesh coming through

>>49308002
>anus symbols on the Mana Crypt

No thanks.

>>49308002
The fuck is that

>>49308166
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/masterpiece-series-2016-09-12

>>49308147
God damn, I need this for my neat art Teferi deck.

>>49308178
Oh nigga

OH NIGGA

>>49308147
Oh baby

>>49308002
That card background is fugly

makes me think that I'm playing Yugioh

>>49308157
Show us on the doll where Kozilek touched you.

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>>49308228
Yugioh is next block. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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>>49308178
>Masterpiece Series will exist from now on
>Innistrad 3 will have a Masterpiece Series
My dick is unbreakable

>>49308250
Think they will have any cards to reference Yugioh, like an Exodia-like creature?

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>>49308178
>One that kept popping up was a desire for players to have more abilities to "bling" their decks.
>We're releasing themed Expeditions every set now

>>49308002
>yfw someone cracks a Lotus and realizes that Wizards has announced the end of the RL

A man can dream.

>>49308250
>TFW Nicol Bolas' plainswalker card is the Masterpiece of amonkhet, with him sitting on a throne like a pharaoh....
I would be so hype...

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>>49308273
There will probably be some subtle nod here and there. They're both card games that have been around for awhile after all.

>>49308275
muh deek

>>49308297
I expect he'll have gone into hiding and became the "god," of this plane by some means.

>>49308002
>tfw the Expedition I pulled was a Prairie Stream.
>If I pull one of these it's going to be the Hangarback.

>>49307255
Honestly, Meren makes a great toolbox if you don't go the reanimator route. People see her and think that you should focus on dumping and reanimating, but she's much better if played as a toolbox with recurrable answers. You can force saccing, prevent damage with things like spore frog, access good kill spells, and tutor with things like Vampiric/Demonic/Diabolic/Worldly Tutor or Black Sidisi for misc. answers, play fatties for threats, drain/gain life, draw cards because of black's exceptional card draw, and ramp because green.

Her ability is just frosting once you consider how solid the 99 is. She makes the entire toolbox reusable and he's just being present is a value engine because her ability is so easy to set up, but it's not entirely necessary. GB is a great color combo because the colors cover each other's weaknesses pretty well, and Meren didn't have to be gimmicky if you're smart about it.

>>49308273
>>49308313
>First 5-way meld card

>>49307626

> 6/6 + first strike + catch-22 ability for 6cc

Kids these days fucking complaing about everyting that doesn't immediately win them the game on turn 0.

How many sac outlets are usually recommended for Alesha?

>>49308395
Maybe an auto-win con if you have 5 different cards in hand?

Would like to play Maze's End 2.0

>>49307562
M I N D G A M E S
I now must build any one of Feldon/Daretti/UR artifacts to scry and cast this.

>>49308250
As a YGO and MtG player I'm looking forward to subtle nods to YGO in Amonkhet. Also actual ancient Egypt shit because YGO design equip does that once in a blue moon.

>reference to Exodia
Maybe something like Hedron Alignment? Or five different permanents referencing the same God, when they are otb you win?

>>49308406

>Catch-22

This is in no way a catch-22, especially not in fucking EDH.

>>49307562
Pretty good actually. You can tutor up combos with him in Temur real nicely to either draw awesome things, or burn people really REALLY hard. He could be good in Izzet with cheap cantrips and high cost spells.

6/10, neat and underrated at the moment, but not amazing.

>>49308002
>super-deluxe rares again
I dunno, man

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>>49307562
>Read draw three cards, get excited
>Opponent decides

>>49308002
Oh boy I can't wait for more expeditions!

>>49308531

Okay, wrong word use? But it still creates a dilemma where the opponent has you chose you getting a 3-card draw or take direct damage that could easily net up a loss.

>>49308663

I'm imagining using this with Book Burning then Browbeat, then Gearhulk and having my opponent giving me the "are you fucking serious" face.

> Already have fun with my Talrand Spellslinging deck
> Kind of want to branch out a bit
>See this
>Similar concept but different variety of possible ways to approach the concept
>Notice that my lands, being creatures, are vulnerable to removal and board wipes

Is Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper a viable commander or just a bad idea. I play Talrand and find his change of pace interesting and the ability to play with white cool but he seems far too risky.

Ideas guys?

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>>49308758
forgot pic...

>>49308758
>Dump all the counters on 1 lands
>Dump all the counters on a fletchland
Oh no you've lost one land
Oh mercy you had to fetch a land instead of hitting someone
What a world, what a world you've lost probably your only creature to a boardwipe

>>49308758
>>49308804

>willingly turning your own lands into things that get hit with WoGs/Damnations/every other insanely popular form of boardwipe that EVERYONE runs in their deck

? ? ?

There are more fun ways to lose the game other than enabling mass LD on yourself.

>>49308758
Just put your counters on Darksteel Citadel

>>49308813
This.
Basically do voltron with one land and sac it when things get hairy.
Combine it with cantrips, counter adders, and Exalted, and you'll do fine.

>>49308758
Terra Eternal, Idyllic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor makes it doable, just gotta protext Terra.

>>49308395
megameld

Any idea when we'll get some news on the Commander 2016 stuff? I mean, we know they are 4 colored, but something beyond that would be nice.

>>49309289
spoilers will start probably asap after kaladesh is out.

Given its release date is Nov 11

>>49309289

>Any idea when we'll get some news on the Commander 2016 stuff?

We just got news.

>>However, when we experimented with putting some of these older cards in Standard, we found the more powerful ones warped Standard in a way we felt was unhealthy for the format, so we looked to other avenues to release these cards. We tried putting some in nonrandom supplemental sets like Commander and Duel Decks, but it warped how the products were selling. We were able to reprint some in Masters sets and others in supplemental booster releases like the Conspiracy sets, but we recognized there was still more demand for reprints and we needed to find additional places to release them.

There.

They've confirmed that there will be no relevant reprints in Commander 2016 because all of them have been moved to the Ultra-Mythic lottery.

Isn't that just AWESOME news?

Wouldn't want to "warp" how Commander decks sell after all.

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>>49309435
Is this why CMD2015 was so fucking awful?

>>49309435
>Oh no we're selling too well

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>>49309435
>>49309514
>>49309531

>we tried putting some in nonrandom supplemental sets like Commander and Duel Decks, but it warped how the products were selling.

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>>49308758
>>49308927
Also don't miss an opportunity to viably play jank special snowflake cards.

>>49307255
Toolbox is literally good stuff with tutors.

>>49309289
>4 colored
I have 0 faith this will end well...

>>49309289
Here's to hoping the nephilim become errata'd to say "this creature may be used as your commander"

>>49309545
>>49309531
They're talking about the price blunder of Grixis precon in C13, it was way pricey just because of fucking True-Name Nemesis. Also somewhat about C14 red and Wurmcoil Engine but that was less of a blunder.

>>49309648

How the fuck are they going to do it.

There's literally zero chance that they are willing to ship them with good enough mana bases to be actually playable out of the box.

And now we apparently can't even expect to get any actually decent cards out of them.

What the fuck is it gonna be.

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>>49309689
I'm holding off on building Alesha in case that happens.

>>49309693

>They're talking about the price blunder of Grixis precon in C13, it was way pricey just because of fucking True-Name Nemesis

Oh what the fuck ever.

The price corrected itself over time anyway.

Also, TNN wasn't a reprint so I don't see how it could be relevant to this post.

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>>49309514
>>49309531
mfw when comparing the commander 2011/2013 to the newest stuff.
FUCK I wish I got into commander earlier

>>49309745
What you don't want a manabase that's 90% ETB tapped?

>>49309803

Are there even enough basic-bitch taplands in existence to fill this out?

>>49308273
>Think they will have any cards to reference Yugioh

why would they? did mtg ever referenced pokemon? no, and they are both owned by wotc

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>>49309769
I'm more of a pic related fan myself
>>49309745
Well we can assume there will be a command tower in each, as well as the tri lands.
I doubt fetch lands.
The four color commanders won't be like the nephilim when it comes to casting cost, the commanders will simply have 4 colored COLOR IDENTITIES. Calling it now. They will be each mono colored casting cost with an activated ability of the other 3 colors each.

>>49309854

>The four color commanders won't be like the nephilim when it comes to casting cost, the commanders will simply have 4 colored COLOR IDENTITIES. Calling it now. They will be each mono colored casting cost with an activated ability of the other 3 colors each.

You absolute fucking madman

They really would do something like that, wouldn't they?

>>49309899
It will be.
I can FEEL it

>>49309854
they could also be DFC, or dare I say

Flip commanders

>>49309899
I expect the extra commanders to be something like this 4 color identity cards vs 4 color costs

>>49309854
>The four color commanders won't be like the nephilim when it comes to casting cost, the commanders will simply have 4 colored COLOR IDENTITIES. Calling it now. They will be each mono colored casting cost with an activated ability of the other 3 colors each.

my two cents: I think the default commanders will have a four color casting cost in them. the other legendary creatures in each deck that can work as alternate commanders are the ones who are likely to be designed that way.

>>49309693
Wurmcoil seems fine to me. These things need a couple value cards to be worth anything.

>>49304019
What combos do you run in your U/G deck?
looking to tweak mine so i can close games without fucking around for 6 turns

>>49309435

>We have to balance our releases so they don't get warped
>We need more selling diversity because the RW commander didn't sell

OR YOU KNOW
ACTUALLY PUTTING GOOD SHIT INTO EVERY PRECON
AND NOT MAKING RW FUCKING GIANT TRIBAL
RED HAS ANGELS
WHITE HAS ANGELS
ANGELS ARE POPULAR WAIFUS
ANGEL TRIBAL FUCKING SUCKS
HOW DO WE FIX IT?
HMMM

I KNOW

FUCKING GIANTS

>>49309803
City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Painlands, Forbidden Orchard, Commander Tower, the basic filter lands (like Sungrass Prairie), Signets, Talismans (would be cool to introduce enemy talismans so everyone gets the fun), Deserted Temple,Grand Coliseum, the tribal reveal lands, Tendo Ice Bridge, finishing the Krosan Verge cycle, Petrified Field, finishing the Riftstone Portal cycle, finishing the Lair cycle, Mirrodin's Core, Pillar of the Paruns, Ancient Ziggrat

I can guarantee at least one of the 4c dudes is going to be an elemental

>>49310009

Not anymore they don't :^)

>>49310009
They'll probably continue to include reprints of cards that are under $10, but nothing like Damnation or Mana Vault that people keep begging for.

is savra, queen of the golgari shitty or why does she have 1/10 the popularity that meren does? is it just because meren is so goodstuffy and viable in way more deck archetypes?

i feel like meren would be the smart thing to build but i kind of want to be a hipster and build something that isn't cookie cutter powerful. i like the idea of grave pact on a creature but i think it might draw so much hate on that creature that it wouldnt really work

>>49310060
the RW deck was the best sold because of Blade of Selves you retard

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>>49307562
>tfw everyone else is upset

>>49307562
should've had haste and it wouldve been fine

>>49305961
Seconding this >>49305987 Friend of mine has her built and holy hell is it value town all day everyday duting everyone's turns.

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>>49307255

Like what >>49309605 said, toolboxes are just goodstuff decks that have ways to ensure they tutor the stuff they need.

I get your reference to YuGiOh, I played Gravekeepers and Warrior toolbox back in the day.

Here are a few commanders that could help you. All of them allow tutoring in various ways. Some tutor for certain cards, like Toshiro and Dranu, but some are far more general like Pic Related, who is literally a tutor on a body.

Captain Sisay: Tutors for legendaries
Meren of Clan Nel Toth: can be built toolbox like >>49308319 said
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary: A Green Blue creature tutor engine, limited to creatures only
Zur the Enchanter: low Cmc Enchantment tutor engine
Sliver Overlord: Sliver tutor for sliver tribal
Scion of the Ur-Dragon: Dragon tutor
Arcum Dagsson: non creature Artifact tutoring
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard: Creature tutor
Zirilan of the Claw: Red Dragon tutor
Godo, Bandit Warlord: Equiptment tutor
Maralen of the Mornsong: Everyone tutors
Sidisi, Undead Vizier: Tutor anything

Just look over these and build a toolbox out of the types they tutor for with just good cards. Or, look into stuff that messes with the graveyard like Toshiro, Dranu, Darreti, Meren and other resurrection themes. You mill your toys into the graveyard and when needed you can use them like a tool box, just be wary of graveyard hate.

>>49308002

At least the art on the mana crypt is amazing, even though the border is ugly

>>49310447
I also like the Gauntlet too.

>>49310297
i actually tested shirei out on xmage earlier and it was decently fun. the problem is that the commander is pretty much inherently win hard or lose hard, which is something i don't want right now (my last deck was like that). shirei would also never survive longer than 1 turn in my control heavy meta where everyone gets spooked and shoots removal everywhere the instant someone else does something remotely threatening

>>49308319

Reanimator Meren and Toolbox Meren aren't really incompatible.

Entomb, Buried Alive and Jarad's Orders are all highly efficient tutors that rely on reanimation.

>>49310060
>finishing the Krosan Verge cycle, Petrified Field, finishing the Riftstone Portal cycle, finishing the Lair cycle
I would LOVE those to happen. Finish some land cycles from FUT too, like Nimbus Maze or River of Tears.

>>49310574

>Full Nimbus Maze

Anon please, my dick can only get so hard.

>>49310574

Real talk, I only run Trostani because of Krosan Verge and Riftstone Portal

Too bad it's just going to be vivid lands and karoos and khans taplands

>but guys, if you bounce the khanlands with karoos you get 2 life and 3 mana it's great

>>49307255
Fellow tutorfag here, it depends on how serious your playgroup is. Mine is relatively casual and the decks are mostly midrange. I play a Zirilan toolbox deck and a Sisay toolbox deck and both do pretty decently in the casual setting. They're both budget (at or less that $100) so that's cool too.

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>>49309951
>they could also be DFC, or dare I say
>Flip commanders

Man, the Kaladesh basic land arts are baller

What are the most baller ETB and combat damage triggers for Alesha? Besides Master of Cruelties, I know about that one. Working on a sort of hatebears/ETB build

>>49310068
Yes they do, that just means they aren't worth shit. I can buy singles and rebuild it but better for cheaper.

>>49311174
>>49311245
>baller

>>49307711
You know the shuffle trigger goes on the stack and you can in response Feldon targeting the eldrazi right? Its the same principal that allows me to goyro's vengeance an Emrakul before the graveyard shuffles.

>>49311314
Whoops

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What is the most aesthetically pleasing card?

>>49310542
Yeah, I just advise people away from the mass mill trap. I think limited, controlled mill is good, but milling a whole bunch of stuff is just asking for a Rest in Peace.

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>>49311542
>tfw dropping Helm of Obedience with a RIP out

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I'm making myself custom RW commanders because I'm that frustrated with the state of RW commanders. This is the worst.

Not even with the most broken shit will RW be good enough

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>>49311662

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I'm thinking of making a PDF of the types of decks and strategies for a guide to new players. This will include an in depth description of different deck archetypes, as well as what colors each fit into, and which commanders are popular for each category.

If anyone wants to contribute, I'd be happy to include your work in the final for the PDF.
Anything helps!

>>49311733
Timmy Battle-Cruiser
Defined by the player archetype, Timmy battle-cruiser decks revolve around the three B's: big land, big creatures, big beatings.
These decks often feature green, but can be any assortment of colors. If you like creating a massive boardstate of immense creatures, and trampling your opponents to death, this is the type of deck for you.

>>49311733
Do you have a format you want it to be submitted in?

>>49310447
Based Volkan Bagan. I think the border looks great though.

>>49311761
Any format , really.
Even just a text post I can copy and refer to would be nice.

>>49311245
Abyssal Horror
Agent of Erebos
Anathemancer
Avalanche Riders
Big Game Hunter
Devout Lightcaster
Earsplitting Rat (reanimatable discard outlet)
Faceless Butcher

>>49311733
Someone posted a great summary of the stax archetype a few weeks ago, I'll see if I can dredge it up.

>>49311797
>dredge it up
That got me

That would be amazing, thank you!

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>>49307644
Thanks!

>>49308319
>>49310542
Thanks, I have a few golgari players in my area and half of them run Meren so I'll shy away from her for now but I appreciate the help.

>>49309605
Seems I just need to better understand the meta then.

>>49310336
Holy shit this is useful! Thanks the list is helping a lot for getting my feet wet.

>>49310877

How is Sisay? She was one of the ones I was interested in.


The other major one that caught my eye was Momir Vig as the creature tutoring could be very interesting. I checked out the EDHREC page on him and the cards seem cool, a lot of potential to have fun with big creatures and counters built into the deck. Anyone have experience with him?

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>>49308758
>>49309563
This is best piece of tech for the dar bar

>>49311733
I can submit a Talrand/ Spellslinger perspective, but I think a Mizzix player would probably describe this better then I could...

>>49311857
I would love to see what you have to say, and I would really appreciate your input

>>49311245
Ebonblade Reaper is fun when he connects

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>>49311843
I love all this jank. I think I need to build Noyan Dar myself now.

>>49310134
meren's ability is just so much more value then savra's , savra is basically gravepact on a dood but there are already enough gravepact effects to go around, butcher of malakir gets to see play more due to it being a fair sized beater and the enchantments are harder to remove , as life gain goes she is pretty bad too

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>>49311513
sexy hip sliver is best card art

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>>49307562
>6/6 body for 6
>first strike
>potential to burn your opponent to the face if they don't let you draw 3
>potential to burn your opponent for as much as 30ish in magic christmas land, or with top deck manipulation
>it's an ETB, abuseable with reanimate and blink for some intense burn and reasonable self-mill
>it fuels graveyard interactions with some light self mill if your opponents don't want you to draw

Y'all motherfuckers can complain all you like, Feldon is gonna have a great time with this badboy. It's not raw good stuff, but in a deck that likes graveyard stuff, artifact stuff, big stuff, and/or some combination of 3, it's very respectable.

>>49311733
There was some good stuff about toolbox a little while ago.

>>49312037
Feldon gets all the good fucking toys, it's not fair

>>49311691
I know, but it's fun

>>49310134
Savra is more fun to play

>>49312039
If you know where, I'd be ecstatic to see.
Otherwise, I'll just lurk around EDH general and continually add to what I have. I'll post the first draft eventually, expect within a month

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>>49312118
>fun

>>49312189
>Foolish boy, little did you know that all your hard work fighting through all the players on my UNO ISLAND was for naught. Weep as I show you the true meaning of power!

>M-Masaka!

>Oh yes, my hand is expertly crafted and sculpted to the exact proportions of Michelangelo's David. What hope do you have, boy? You might think to draw into a +2 card, maybe you even have one in your hand, but when I unleash the power of my Millenium Eye, I can ban one card type for the remainder of the match. Your defeat is ensured! CHAOSU BREKKU: CARDO LIMITU

>YOOOOOOOOOOO

>>49312332
I laughed harder than I should have.

How exactly are you supposed to play Sidisi? Just use her as a tutor and sacrifice her back? I feel like I'm missing something here. Is there ever a reason to use her actually as a creature?

>>49308820
>mass
Will this meme never die?

Noyan Dar is best utilized with counters on 1 land, swinging as one fatty, perhaps having been given flying somehow.

>>49312381
You're thinking of Halimar Tidecaller

>>49312332
>There will never be a cheesy anime about high school/college students playing MTG and fantasizing about how the duel would look irl

>>49311819
Can't find it, I'll do a stax writeup tonight when I have time. I've played quite a lot of Slobad Stax.

>>49311733
What is the difference between enchantment voltron and enchantress? Are they both the same, or are there unique differences?

>>49311991
>>49312131
thanks for the replies

i think i might go mono-black instead. i think erebos would be a little boring but he would really work well with what i want to do, which is various low-cost spells, forced saccing and lifedrain.

not sure if mono-black control would be an oxymoron considering the lack of enchantment/land/artifact removal. never played mono black before.

>>49312451
Thank you so much for looking, and I'll keep my eyes on the edh/ commander generals for what you have. No rush, and thank you for your contribution

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>tfw your edh channel is growing stronger

>>49310148
>blade of selves
>the sixth most expensive card in the decks made its deck sell best

Anon, please. Meren, phyrexian arena, command beacon, and mystic confluence are all more expensive. Also, when you try to buy one of the decks, you will note that Meren is by far the most expensive deck, in no small part because it performs quite well out of the box. The RW deck is the rock bottom cheapest. This is not because it was "best sold". It does not cost $15 less that Plunder the Graves because it was popular.

>>49312106
Feldon's love is for all, please step on to the Feldon train here, complementary ruination and keldon firebombers at the door.

>>49312580

I checked the price of the individual cards in the BG deck and it's definitely over the retail, even when my LGS was missing a few.

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>tfw Johnny in a Timmy meta
HELP ME

>>49312638
>Tfw timmy/johnny masterrace

>>49311833
>How is Sisay?
She's brand new - literally just ordered the cards the other day so I haven't been able to play her in the actual group yet - but I've been doing some play testing on Tappedout with my other decks and she seems like she's gonna be at least decent in my group's meta.

Basically the idea is mana ramp as quickly as possible, tutor out Reki and sometimes combine him with Zendikar Resurgent for huge card draw, tutor Sigarda to keep Sisay safe, and then each turn build up board control with dudes like Michiko and Dosan. You can also tutor out more protection for Sisay or Sigard to secure your board state with Saffi, Eight and a Half Tails, and Yomiji. For removal, there's Glissa and Mangara to tutor, as well as Swords to Plowshares, Condemn, and Dromoka's Command. Yisan can quickly tutor out important non legends like Mother of Runes. The wincon is essentially overwhelming your opponent, most often using Odric Lunarch, Sigarda, and Myogin to give all your creatures Flying, Hexproof, and Indestructible during combat.

Here's the decklist, keep in mind it was built on a budget so some of the beefier white legends aren't included. Even without them though, the deck has plenty of answers for most situations and a lot of variety.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/09-09-16-wait-for-it/

>>49312646
>>49312638
>not being Spike/Johnny Master Race

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Any good synergy with le ebin tax man?

>>49312408
View from above is also sick tech in the dar bar

>>49312667
but muh giant montars

>>49312679
I think it's pretty telling that WOTC considers life to be synonymous with money

>>49312548
link it you bitch

>>49312679
I'm just going to throw him in my Athreos

>>49312694
>stagnating with nothing but giant monsters
>not being able to whip out really cool ones when it's convenient
>making your deck so that it relies on nothing but fatties

How dull.

>>49312694
value > size , i take a solemn simulacrum over a ruination wurm 9 times out of 10

>>49312667
I like jank and weirdness too much to ever be a spike

Also bullshit alternate wincons

>>49312709
https://www.youtube.com/c/mtgorzo

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>>49312774
What's wrong with being able to win in different ways?

>>49312679
>UG gets another broken commander.
>us WB players get this.
At least it's not as bad as RW, but it still hurts.

>>49312797

IT'S SHIT

>>49312613
Oh shit this got me thinking

Can you build Feldon as a stax/prison style deck with ETB damage triggers and shit? Stuff like the burn Kavus and Firebombers paired with MLD. Or would it just be too slow?

>>49312797
You should get someone to design a better banner for your channel.

>>49312831
UR SHIT

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>>49302724

>>49312848
you don't like comic sans anon?

>>49312679
he seems bleh. i guess he does *technically* give you a lot of value in edh, but life is not that useful. i wish there were more ways to spend your life, but sadly all life-spending cards need to be balanced on the basis that you will have infinite life.

if i had to build him, i'd probably go pillow fortish control with lots of "spend life to draw cards" effects. can't think of anything else, really

>>49312860
seriously brah, your banner is probably one of the worst things on the page.

>>49312844
i haven't tried it but basically what will happen is that one of the people playing good colors will get a little grumpy when you first do your thing and then they will bounce/counterspell/burn/destroy/exile your shit to oblivion and that will be that

>>49312860
Your channel presentation is a big element of getting people to take you seriously. If I randomly navigated to that channel on Youtube and the first thing I saw was that hideous banner, I'd instantly click away and not even consider subbing you or watching a single video. It just makes it look like you're not taking yourself or your content seriously enough, regardless of whether or not that's actually the case.

>>49312875
>>49312899
's fair enough
any suggestions for an artistically challenged anon

>>49312917
Just use a zoomed in image of command tower until you can get someone to make something for you.

>>49312895
>implying anyone can build worth a damn in my group
No one buys singles. It's all either pack chaff opened from booster boxes or barely modified precons. I am the only person who buys singles in my group

Does anyone have suggestions for something that can give all my creatures either flying or reach?

>>49312917
Better font, a good, solid contrasting color(black with white borders really pops out no matter the background) use images of some Commanders in the banner so that people get the point of the channel, and if you have a video intro, make it less than 5 seconds

>>49312956
color?

>>49312956
Archetype of Imagination
Levitation

>>49312956
Wonder

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Oh shit, I was testing that custom commander and it was incredibly fun. Now I'm even madder because I know wizards will literally never print this or anything like it. It's just a creature that loots when it or another creature enters the battlefield for you.

>>49312844
Well, the other day I locked down the game by cycling a duplicant and beating face with a hardcast inferno titan.

Also, firebombers IS mld.

But desu, ETB damage triggers aren't the best thing you can do with Feldon usually.

You can't really do much for traditional stax because Feldon doesn't usually have tokens. mass land destruction tho, that can work. You only need 3 mana, a scary thing in the graveyard, and Feldon in order to beat down. After a Keldon firebomber wipe, beat down via it that betrays can be hard to come back from.

>>49308002
Oh shit, they're reprinting Gauntlet.

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>>49312917
Use an image like this instead. Get a graphic designer to make you an identity if you got the cash. It's not cheap.

>>49312917
If you're artistically challenged, minimalism is always the best way to go. Block fonts, solid colors, not messy. It's much easier for someone without artistic ability to make something decent looking in a minimalist style than it is for anything else.

>>49312953
>only one to do coherent deck building at the table
Then be kind, anon, and do not beat down your friends with a prison deck. Allow them to play the game.

>>49313083
>>49313092
Not gonna lie, that wasn't the type of feedback I was expecting, but it's pretty rad, thanks all

>>49312679
The question is of course do I just put him in my Obzedat deck or do I make him the General?

>>49313054
"reprinting"
This is unlikely to impact price in any way, anon. I am sorry.

>>49313102
Fair point. I just want them to go faster, nothing happens on their boards before like turn 4

I will save stax for LGS nights I've never been to an LGS

>>49303385
I'm curious about "Color alignment". Is that just one's favorite colors? Or is it what you play the most, perhaps some kind of personality test? I sorta want to do one of these for my group and I'm not sure what it actually is based on.

>>49313174
I think it's what you enjoy playing most. Your personality naturally falls in line with your alignment generally.

>>49313139
>need for speed
>want to better the meta

Monored may yet hold the answers. Krenko goblins and purphuros tokens can make your deck the deck archenemy in a more fun way, the kind that encourages your friends to improve without subjecting them to the experience of having their spirits broken with stax. A fast, aggressive, but fair deck can be just what some casuals need to step up their game a bit.

>>49313220
Ah, cool. Thanks

So is Leovold literally wheels.dec? I'm putting together a list and that's the first place my mind went and apparently that's what everyone else was thinking too.

>>49313334
leovold is more like "what if we made nekusar, but way better and way less fun to play against"

>>49313174
It's more or less what your favorite colors to play are.

>>49302633
Hey, /edh/
First time Poster here.
I'm passionate about my Izzet Decks and all, and I'd like advice on my Commander
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/izzet-time-walkers-wip/
Any advice welcome!

>>49313222
I am already the premier red mage in my group

seriously 4 of my 5 decks contain red and 2 are mono-red

>>49312419
What is daily lives of high school boys?

>>49313374
>Nekusar but better
I call bullshit because opponents can't draw themselves to death.

>>49312162
Here's a small snippet. It's not much, but it's a start. I'd talk about how the core of toolbox style would be that the 99 is flexible with many answers to many situations, and you'll be tutoring them or reusing them a lot.

>>49308319
>>49310336

>>49313766

Nekusar allows them to draw. Leovold is doesn't. He's far far better in colors that can support stax

>>49313417
I can't tell what you're going for here, it overall just feels extremely unfocused. You've got a ton of nonbasics for seemingly no real reason, the weirdest of all is Shrine of The Forsaken Gods.
I would advise picking a theme and sticking to it a little bit tighter, and also pay attention to the charts on the right side there. Just from a glance it's obvious that this deck might have some problems casting the red spells.

Also you have Keranos in the 99. It says you have 101 cards, so you have to cut him and another one since tappedout doesn't consider the commander part of the deck.

>>49308758
This is what I just finished making recently http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/29-08-16-noyan-dar/