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One thing that I've noticed is that girls are much more

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One thing that I've noticed is that girls are much more into fantasy than sci-fi

Why do you think that's so, /tg/?

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Fantasies involving white knights/barbarians
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>>49301550
Cause women do shit in STEM fields and fear a world where they have to deal with anything more complicated than an i-phone, plus there is more scantily clad men in fantasy.
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Science requires thinking and magic grants desires without effort.
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Fantasy has more appealing roles for women than sci fi, where they're usually treated exactly like men or overlooked entirely.
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Women want to feel special and it's easier to feel special in a fantasy land where women are warrior princesses than a scifi land in which women are part of egalitarian societies where they're no different than men. Because "social progress".
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>>49301550
Science.
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If they do like Scfi and said scifi setting has giant bug monster that nom on people then they go to them.

Or I dont know how to explain they tend to like the "sleek" factions closest things are shit like Eldar,and ALEPH from infinity
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They like elves and druids and wildlife stuff

Aliens don't compare very well.
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>>49301550
>One thing that I've noticed is that people are much more into fantasy than sci-fi

>Why do you think that's so, /tg/?

>pic unrelated
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>>49302215
Mostly this - although barbarians in loincloths or svelte elf men have plenty to do with it as well.

Like it or not, if you want to feel special or important, being a woman in Star Trek (whether UFP, Klingon, Romulan, basically anything except older Ferengi society) isn't going to do fuck all towards that feeling.

When everyone else is on that same level, you're like a republican senator in states where gay marriage is allowed: Nothing more than a random shmuck with nothing unique about them.

When it's wrong/taboo/illegal, much like the "warrior princess" who isn't letting herself be sold off to some fat bastard thrice her age, then suddenly the exceptions breaking said taboo are a special existence. They are notable. They are important to a narrative - any narrative.
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>>49301550
You're asking /tg/ why women prefer what and you don't expect neckbeard answers? (Or maybe you do?)

I prefer fantasy to scifi because it's more fun. Though I enjoy history (and science), I avoid low-magic settings because it starts to get into that "low-fun" territory for me.

I don't want to spend time trying to figure out the historical or scientific justification for my bullshit. I'd rather magic-handwave and move on.

Why do I get to dress my dumb elf in silk and gold while going toe to toe with orcs with spikes on their spikes who take pleasure in smashing long-ears? Because it's my kind of power fantasy to be able to wear ballgowns to battle, fuck off.

Space opera/space pulp/sci-fantasy is my preferred method of sci-fi. It allows me similar ballgowns on the battlefield pleasure. I can be a pulp-y Lara Croft robbing space-tombs or a beautiful-but-evil space princess helping the evil empire conquer the galaxy without having to wear practical bullshit and have arguments with Autismo the Great over whether or not I can shoot something in the head with my space laser because the atmospheric pressure wouldn't be strong enough to conduct the bullshit that may not even be able to work at all in the first place.

I'm not a hard science kind of person. I admire people who are. But I'm not going to take pleasure playing in a setting/system where people who are hard science types can make me feel like an idiot just because they get their rocks off in imagining I'm dumb, when I could probably trounce them in many of my chosen fields of experience and education.

I have no idea what hard-science focused chicks are into, btw. Most of the ladies I rp with are artist types and we tend not to maths. I suspect they're the ones that look down their noses at anyone - other female types in particular - who can't grok crunch-heavy systems and need to ask for help. Y'know, the insufferable bitches you guys probably complain about anyway.
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Well for one thing, women are far less mature than men. As a result, they are more attracted to fantasy which is a genre of convenience. Tropes and symbolism are representing by literal symbols. It's babby-tier story telling. Fantasy deals with immature themes and content. Sci-fi deals with the mature themes of speculative futurism and the dark side of human nature. Also it relies on knowledge of technology and science, things that women are lacking in. You know all those "Women in STEM" initiatives? That's an attempt to go against human nature. Women cannot handle the internal logic that sci-fi demands. They need plot-hole bullshit like that Veritaserum Incantum shit from Harry Potter because they are children.

Fantasy is about feelings. Sci-fi is about facts. That is why women like fantasy, and men like sci-fi.
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>>49301550
>wry

Have you tried asking girls? I mean, you must constantly be in their company based on what you claim to have "noticed" so, it seems really stupid to run to 4chan for answers.

Well?
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>>49302503
>Sci-fi deals with the mature themes
lol
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>>49301603

But all the most popular sci-fi franchises have mushy soft science.
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>>49302511

Oh hush, he might be too unaware to realize women like fantasy for the same reason men like fantasy; it's not a game of technobabble and you can play all sorts of hot races.
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>>49302503
>>>/r9k/
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>>49302418
This is an excellent point. In sci-fi, the central and most invasive problem with modern life for women (ie, living in male-dominated society) has already been taken care of, by society, offscreen. In fantasy, the women herself gets to be the instrument of its overthrow, personally..
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>>49302684
That's probably in the vein of what's being spouted over there. But note the Calvin's Dad image. I think it's more tongue in cheek than you'd think. (If not, your image def. applies.)
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>>49302700
>>49302418

... Until you realize the vast majority of fantasy settings have gender equality?

You're reading way too hard into this by making it some "empowerment" schtick. Women like fantasy because it isn't a pain in the ass to digest like hard sci and has awesome shit like dragons and horses and magic.

And elves, they're pretty hot.
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>>49302746
See: Everyone prefers fantasy, unless you're a Star Wars nerd because then your sci-fi is fantasy.
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>>49302700
I'm sure that's a draw for some women, but not all women consider their lives as being oppressed by the patriarchy. I actually prefer universes where genders are more or less equal and it is not typically unusual for a person of any gender to be [whatever]. If the most interesting thing about my character is his or her gender, then I dun fucked up.
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>>49302605
Doesn't matter. It can still scare people off. It's how its represented, not how it really is.

Take Titan AE for instance.

Action Adventure film, really not for young children. But it was a cartoon and it was definitely marketed without hitting on the darker issues, so its target audience never went to theatres to see it and the audience that did walked out on it.
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>>49302778

As a male who prefers sci-fi, I agree. the fuck is this shit that 'women want everything magic cause they can't handle the sciences like our masculine minds' shit? I prefer my sci-fi soft and gooey as far as science is concerned. It's unrelatable. Hard sci-fi is a pain in the ass to communicate to an audience that has no background in a STEM field, made all the worse by the fact that those who argue in favor of the rock-hard science in sci fi are often insufferable crustbeards. Sometimes people like concepts and themes that are familiar to them with a coat of space paint, you autistic fucks.
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>>49302817
That's a marketing fault though.
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>>49301550
This is not surprising. Men tend to be more fascinated by technology than women.
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>>49302511
This is the only reasonable answer.
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>>49302829
Well said, Anon.
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>>49301603

Grace Hopper faggot
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>>49301603
Son, you have no idea what pain in the ass can i-phone be. From developers point of view at least - the environment is straight up hostile and you have to make everything 200% idiotproof.
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Because fantasy is more popular right now generally, than sci-fi and virtually all women are profoundly influenced by trend. Whatever is more popular at any given moment, is what increasingly more women will show interest in. When Star Trek TNG or Star Wars Episode #1 were all the rage, women loved them.

In short, what a typical man likes, he likes regardless...what a typical woman likes, is what her peer group likes.
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>>49303070
I fucking love 4chan for posts like this.

Where else can you see such boundless hate paired with such purposeful ignorance?
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>>49301603
Virtposting is back on the menu I see...
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>>49303152
>Every bad guy is virt

nick off
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Mainstream fantasy's got more confident, rounded protagonists and intrigue and bants and all that gay stuff while a lot of mainstream sci-fi lately tends to focus on big explosions and impressive ways to kill each other in space. Nothing wrong with that, mind you, but y'know.
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>>49303144
I was so close to agreeing with them too. Humans, rather than women are largely influenced by trends. There are always outliers, of course, but for the most part, we get caught in trends because they make us part of the in group.
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>>49303035
And idiot STILL manage to fuck up their 200% idiotproof I-phones.
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>>49301550
I actually haven't really noticed that particular trend amongst the girls I know. For each girl I know who strongly favors fantasy over sci-fi I can think of at least one counterexample who strongly favors sci-fi over fantasy.

Assuming that the trend does exist and my sample size is too small, I'd say probably just lingering bias against women doing STEM. I know this isn't Tumblr, but I've definitely noticed that when given an equally-competent guy and girl, the girl will probably consider herself worse at math.
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Because women haven't yet found an easy way to exploit sci-fi on a large scale because it's a smaller, and less popular genre than fantasy, which is easy to understand, and doesn't often call for one to think about difficult concepts.
Also machines with their complexity scares them away.

Fucking fight me, /tg/
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>>49301550

Princess
Magic
Heroic Knight
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>>49301550

Scifi has traditionally been a very male-dominated genre. There's always been women writing fantasy, and honestly by number I wonder if there may be more fantasy written by women than men, but lady scifi authors are more rare.

There is also the fact that fantasy tends to be about characters whereas in most hard scifi the characters are literally dressing and plot vehicles. With social mores that push women really fucking hard towards being social and caring about people and you're a failure if you're not social in the "proper" way (I have a little sister, and seeing her grow up has been incredibly informative on the sheer shit a growing girl has to put up with. You have no idea how often I've wanted the ability to punch entire television networks), it's not terribly surprising that people that have been groomed this way would feel more at ease with the genre where characters and character development is important, over the one where the high concept is the thing and the characters are largely cutouts.
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>>49301550
I like scifi too anon.

I know I'm the exception though and not the rule.
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>>49301550
I'm not 100% sure on that. The Hunger Games is part of a larer context of girl's YA novels inoling Dystopian Sci-fi futures. My sister was into some of these for a while. I've noticed genetic engineering is one of the themes that pops up a lot, interestingly.
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>>49301550
It's because of your confirmation bias and/or insufficient sample.
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Sounds like a made up fact for troll/fun posting but

Sci-fi is liberal, logical in thought, atheistic, confrontational, societal, and often more cerebral

Fantasy is conservative, emotional in thought, religious/mystical, wish fulfilling, personal, intuitive and symbolic

Women are...
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>>49302700
>The problem is males
>It's not poverty
>It's not resource scarcity
>It's not any of the factors that *cause* all of those inequalities to even happen in the first place
>It must be the penis
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>>49304407
What is Jumping on a trampoline in really skimpy outfits!

I'll take Stuff that's on Tv for 800, Alex.
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>>49304407
Man, you just make both sound boring as fuck. Fantasy only barely sounds interesting when you describe it, but at least it's not plastic and static like you describe sci-fi.
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>>49301550
>>49301550
Sci-fi deals with high technology and complicated logically-founded topics. Medieval times let women be what they all long to be, genetically.
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>>49301588
>white knights/barbarians

>>49301603
>scantily clad men

But remember, all of this is just a "male power fantasy" that in no way appeals to women.
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>>49301550
>One thing that I've noticed is that girls are much more into fantasy than sci-fi

I'm gonna drop a truth bomb and remind you that fantasy dwarfs scifi right now and that this will inevitably to skewer your impression.
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>>49302421
That's an oddly reasonable point of view. Not for a woman, specifically, but for a 4channer.
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>>49301588
But barbarians are fun for everyone.
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>>49305148
Life's too short to try butting heads against something you're not having fun doing. On the other hand, it's dumb to limit yourself by being narrow-minded. Being reasonable is the only reasonable thing to do.
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>>49305490

Fucking this.

I remember when /tg/ was so much this.
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>>49301550
I haven't noticed that.

It's almost like anecdotes aren't evidence or something.
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>>49301550

I don't necessarily think that this is true, but I wouldn't know for sure since I don't actually interact a lot with women (or a large circle of people at all, generally - pretty much a massive introvert).

I'm also not going to speculate on if the trend if true, or why it might be true. But I will say this: Sci-fi in general is less popular than it was 30-40 years ago. So, it's probably less popular among ALL demographics, rather than one sex or the other.

I do however, really hate the tumblr/community college female demographic that seems to think we need more female sci-fi writers, and when confronted, can't name LeGuinn, McCaffrey Cherryh, Brackett, or Norton. They're all a huge influence on post 60's SF, and people who don't read SF should shut the fuck up about shit they don't know.

Yes, more female SF writers is good. But not knowing about the existing ones is a cardinal sin.
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I personally prefer fantasy because I'm a forever GM and it's what I'm best at. I'm quite into medieval literature and religion/myths, so medieval settings are easier to write. I have many sources to draw from, I'm comfortable with the genre.

I've been GMing my first sci-fi game for my boyfriend because that's what he's into, and it's quite difficult for me. I don't have the scientific knowledge and I refuse to handwave things, so I have to do a lot of research. Even then I don't think I'm handling this too well, I'm not showing the science aspect as much as the political and cultural elements.

I think my case is common. Women are more likely to be into literature/anthropology than sciences, it makes sense many of us would be more comfortable with fantasy. It's what we know.
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>>49304826
Strawman much? I didn't say males were the problem.
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>>49304254
>I've noticed genetic engineering is one of the themes that pops up a lot, interestingly.

Women are natural geneticists, they have selectively bred the human race since the beginning while men are simply content to jizz in almost anything.
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>>49304906
As has frequently been pointed out, the male stereotypes we see in fantasy are ALSO male power fantasy. They're not "great dad, nimble tongue" they're "rippling pecs, huge sword." Its the male idea of what a woman wants, not the real thing.
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>>49307720
>Its the male idea of what a woman wants, not the real thing.
No, it's what men want to be for themselves, dumbass.
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>>49307720

But I love playing the handsome dad who's great with kids and has a clever tongue.
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>>49307720
Male power fantasy is indivisible from female sexual fantasy.
Females want to fuck powerful males, especially when in oestrus.
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>>49307735
>implying men care about their appearance for reasons other than sex

>>49307745
NIMBLE. Not a clever tongue. I'm not saying its euphemistically nimble. I'm saying its literally nimble. For eating pussy.
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>>49307904
I'm sure your vast wealth of experience with women's sexuality has brought you to this stunning conclusion, anon.
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>>49307924
>implying men do not enjoy being intimidating to rivals and impressive to peers
>implying appearance has anything to do with it and that men simply don't find the idea of being physically powerful a very pleasant one
What are you, a woman?
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>>49307924

>nimble for eating pussy

That's what I was saying as well, a clever tongue is a tongue that's good at figuring out just the right places to touch.

It's kind of like saying how a man could have cruel fingers even though they're doing exactly what the woman wants, they're cruel because they leave her wanting more.
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>>49307951
Yes.
There's a reason women go powerful males and not omegas even though both would happily fuck them.
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>>49301550
I've literally never noticed this. Have you seen how popular New-Who was among women?
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>>49302817
dunno it was one of my favorite films as a kid, I even had some action figures, I need to watch it again for the nostalgia value
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>>49308067

Doctor Who is hardly sci-fi.
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>ITT:
Ctrl-F "vampir": 0 results
Ctrl-F "werew": 0 results

It's like Twilight wasn't even a thing.
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>>49301550

Well, I have noticed that boys are more into fantasy than sci-fi.
It may just be that fantasy is more popular than sci-fi.
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>>49307924
desu, I'd rather a clever tongue than a nimble one. Bedroom antics can only last so long.* I want to be entertained the larger portion of the time.

*Any man who claims he could eat a peach for hours gets an eye roll from me. Excellent taste in bad movies, but I got shit to do than lounge around in bed having my ass go numb because you want to pretend you're somehow an excellent lover.
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>>49301550
It's not that women love fantasy more than sci-fi --most sci-fi is practically fantasy, after all -- it's that they tend to be more into stuff with a heavy focus on romance, sexuality, or interpersonal relationships, which fantasy tends to focus more on. Most sci-fi focuses on lofty speculation of the future and its societies or simply warfare, and while the former might potentially be interesting to most women, the writers of sci-fi are generally awful at depicting relationships and human interaction. That's not to say that there isn't plenty of literature popular among women set in a science fiction setting, though -- in fact, if I'm not mistaken, there have been far more movie adaptations from chick-lit sci-fi than there have been from chick-lit fantasy.
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>>49308191
Did you know that eating a woman out increases a man's risk for getting mouth cancer?

It's like God is telling us something.
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>>49308191
Your mom can only last so long.
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>>49308242
Some men will make up any excuse to avoid doing it?

>>49308279
Classic insult, but not clever.
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>>49308242
>>49308279

It's true though, I'd much rather have a man that can make me laugh than one who's kind of good at eating me out.
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>>49308423
Jessica Rabbit knew what's what.
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Have you or anybody else in the thread tries actually talking to women and finding out yourself?

I'm guessing not by the neckbeardy truism replies...

In general true Sci Fi ( as opposed to Science Fantasy like Star Wars) is less popular as it deals with more complex subject matter that you can't as easily squeeze into a Hollywood plot. This means less easily digestible media exists in the genre as most of the best stuff is written in books which people don't read. Star Trek is really the only good mainstream example and even the latest films are more fantasy blockbuster than traditional Sci Fi. This is nothing to do with gender. More men prefer fantasy too.
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>>49308123
Neither is anything else we commonly think of as sci-fi.
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>>49302511
>Using Carlos without making shitty pun
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>>49301550
They like sci-fi but they dont know.
Show gataca to any your female friends, they are gonna like it.

Also the majority of sci-fi hard book follow a pattern in wich the protagonist is used to carry the narrative that describe an utopian/distopian/weird society/situation/war and then he solves the problem/live with it/adapts. And in the process the protagonist find the chick and sleep with her.
Science fiction or early science fiction is specially dependable of the point of view of the protagonist, an the majority of targets are teenager/adult males.
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>>49301550
Less technobabble and autists whining about "muh realism"
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>>49301550
guns are bad and kill people

swords are manly and kill monsters
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>>49308836
that is why my favourite author is philip K Dick.

No techno shit, the weird stuff simply is, how the people reacts to the weird stuff is the important thing.
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>>49301550
Elf boys
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>>49307991
That is just one particular type of fantasy. As a man, i don't fantasize about slutty bad girls all the time either. Human beings have various fantasies at different times.
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>>49301550
Space fashion is less appealing.
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>>49308191
It's not mutually exclusive. However, females that have an entertain me attitude are not particularly fun to hang out with anyway.
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>>49302418
Gay marriage is allowed in all states. Supreme Court said so.
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>>49302421
We're talking about legbeards, so a neckbeard seems a reasonable expert.

>it's more fun
Way to start with a total fucking non-answer. Fun is subjective, the question is WHY vagina people find it more enjoyable.

And then you wrote a bunch of lines that just amounted to >>49301609
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>>49304188
>(I have a little sister, and seeing her grow up has been incredibly informative on the sheer shit a growing girl has to put up with. You have no idea how often I've wanted the ability to punch entire television networks)
Did you ever consider turning the television off?
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>>49309227
Scifi is full of girly boys in tight suits, though.
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>>49305053
The word "skewer" is totally unrelated to the word "skew" which I'm pretty sure is what you meant.
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>>49306859
>I like it because I like it
>probably most women also like it because they like it
ITT: We see how women answer questions.
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>>49308132
That stuff is ancillary to the genres we're currently discussing.
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>>49310200
Nice reading comprehension, /r9k/. It was more "they like the source material the genre is derived from, so they like the genre".
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>>49308191
>I want to be entertained
With an attitude like that, a man that thinks bedroom antics are the best thing he has on offer is probably the best you're going to be able to keep long-term.
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>>49308132
Girls like that and girls like Hunger Games, which is sci-fi, but those aren't really representative of the genre as a whole.
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>>49310137

Women don't want girly boys in tight suits, they want handsome immortal pointy-eared Elves with good hair.

The three most popular non-human romantic interests for women are vampires, werewolves and elves, figure out what ties them all together.
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>>49310242
You're right, that is a more accurate characterization. It still has room to go a step further, though.
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>>49310313
>Women don't want girly boys in tight suits
I'm pretty sure some women do.
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>>49310284

What exactly are you suggesting? Wanting a partner you enjoy spending time with outside the bedroom is something men and women want.
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>>49310313
They don't die in situations where a human would. Is that the connecting feature you were going for?
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>>49310358
Yeah, but phrasing it in that way "HE entertains ME" is not the same as phrasing it "WE enjoy spending time TOGETHER".
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>>49310313
>vampires
>ancient and knowledgeable
>pale
>night time
>rich
>manipulate you

>werewolves
>bestial and physical
>giant animal cock
>live in forests
>night time
>rape you

>elves
>skinny and sensuous
>ancient and knowledgeable
>live in forests
>seduce you

I mean I'm seeing some common factors but nothing for all three.
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>>49301609
Science fiction is usually just saying there's an explanation for your magic, then not explaining it.

Also, how do you explain the female interest in Shadowrun where you have science AND magic? An equal amount of the Shadowrun Returns games backers were female.
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>>49310372

They're tough, mysterious beings that form obsessions with a single person and devote their time to courting, seducing or marking them as their mate/lover?

It's like you don't read smut-fiction or trashy romance novels, anon.
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>>49302276
Counterpoint: Tyranids.
Chicks love Tyranids.
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>>49310523
Well, I don't.
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Chicks that are involved with 40k like tyranids. That's a pretty small subset of chicks. I suspect it might just be an expression of the "white girls fucking love pets/animals" thing.
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>>49310441

It's assumed she's putting something into the relationship too, anon.
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>>49310561

You really should, they're quite fun.

And very useful for learning fun new words or phrases for campaigns.
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>>49310498
>Also, how do you explain the female interest in Shadowrun where you have science AND magic?

URBAN FANTASY.

It's big with women and there was at least one smut-series in that genre.
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>>49310313
>Women don't want girly boys in tight suits

That's like claiming men don't like fat chicks..
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>>49310653
Perhaps you assume that, but I don't because I have known women who think in those terms.
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>>49310714

Most men don't, I do however know quite a few men who like some volume to their preferred sexual partners.
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>>49310284
>>49310441
>>49310716
You just spend your life looking for things to be mad at, don't you?
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>>49310685
Any recommendations?
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>>49310906

I'm not at my bookshelf at the moment, but Nora Roberts is always a surefire bet, as well as novels written in the 80s-90s (that magical period when online smut wasn't really a big thing, but computers let anyone with an idea write them.)

As for smut-fics? I'd sign up for a website called Elliquiy.
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>>49308123
All sci fi is just an aesthetic for fantasy.
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>>49310906
It's easier to eye what's available and then try to zero in on the sort of scenario you like. There's so much fricking books of the genre out there that you're bound to find what you're looking for in a decent to good quality.

Me personally, I enjoyed Tessa Dare's post-napoleonic wars smut a lot.
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>>49301603
I think the "discussion" goes something like this.

Lonely misandrist lesbians taking a break from smearing cheetos over their fat vaginas will sometimes see themselves in the mirror and realize what a fat and digusting whale they have become. As they try to escape into the world of fantasy, they realize that 99% of the women there are better looking than them, which is only accentuated by their clothing, charisma and even intelligence. In a furious rage they hit the echo chamber blogs with manhate, and buzzwords like the patriarchy, sexualizing, male power fantasy and others. Eventually some desperate intersectional ethics in journalism will claim someone got ptsd from online rape and the news will expand faster than a line of feminists outside an abortion clinic. At some point after this, someone will claim heresy and point out that men possess similar buzzword faults as the females in games, but somehow be overthrown by fallacies such as "muscles represent power, not sexualizing" and then it eventually dies out as the betacucks lose interest and go back to their favorite rape game, and the misandrists find an unexpected package of cheetos left.
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>>49313522
You put a lot of effort into that post.
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Because Fantasy is more popular and way less cerebral than actual science fiction (read, non space opera non cybershit)
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>>49302421

>Hard sf is math heavy shit


I don't get this viewpoint. John Brunner was a hard SF writer and all he wrote about was realistic future scenarios. Hard sf just means realistic science fiction, and I always found that way more interesting than spaceships in space stuff
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>>49313522
Here's a (You). You deserve it.
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>>49310748
>Most men don't
>I have met most men and can assure you this is the truth
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>>49314052

That feel when you forgot to sage your post

T_T
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>>49314052

If most men were into fat chicks than we wouldn't have such a large HAES movement dominated almost entirely by white women.
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>>49313951
There's hard scifi about marine biology and about 19th century modes of transportation.

Probably everybody here has seen one of the many movie and cartoon-adaptions those two books got.
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>>49301550
Are there any studies to confirm this? I mean, something beyond the usual confirmation bias and small sample size? I know feminism is fantasy and robot waifus are sci-fi, but
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>>49314142
The problem is that everything's called fat, from women who got big butts, to pear-shaped ladies to landwhales that are only identifieable as humans because their extremities are still visible.
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>>49314414
Honestly, as soon as you hit 200kg+ you are big enough to be classified as another animal entirely. I don't think any other adult animal has that large a fluxuation in body mass percentage.
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>>49309861
>>49310284
>>49310441

Obviously I do not expect my significant other to be my pet clown who dances when I'm bored. I'm speaking in the broader sense of a relationship. Someone who is merely a good lover is of interest only some of the time. Someone who is clever is of interest pretty much all of the time. I look for someone I really enjoy spending time with, bouncing ideas back and forth and shooting the shit over common interests and playful bullshit conversations. That doesn't happen in an unequal relationship.

I'm saying I like geeks and nerds, dipshits. Trust 4chan to turn an quip along the lines of, "I like smart, witty men and any sensible woman prefers that over some dude whose main attractive quality is that he'll go down on a girl." into an accusation of What An Awful Woman, God Women Are Such Bitches, Amirite, Boys? Glad I Don't Have To Put Up With That. Rite?

The post I was replying to was the fucking context. The context was not, "What do women want in a relationship?" it was "What do women want in a man?" Oversensitive nancies.

>>49310052
See this: >>49310242

>>49313951
Thank you - I'll look into the author.

>>49314357
I actually adore Around the World in 80 Days and 20,000 Leagues. Leagues is absolutely "sci-fi". I don't actually remember any sci-fi elements in AtWi80. The game 80 Days, yes, but not the original source. Anyway - they're part of what feeds my steampunk fascination.
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>>49313951
AW SHIT NIGGA

THAT'S MY FAVORITE BOOK OF ALL TIME
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>>49319602
No joke
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