/tg/ Confessional General

>>49291360
Is this why we get constant retardation whenever someone brings up any of 3.PF's flaws?

>>49291360
that's the most retarded thing I've ever read.

>>49291464
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>>49291585
>No judging people in this thread, no matter what.

>>49291585
to behave like him is spiteful and immoral, sure.

But the reasoning and execution stand in such stark contrast of effort, importance and payoff to each other that it must be the work of somebody unable to understand cause and effect to an extent that's more retarded than any mentally challenged person I have thus far encountered, much less read anything by.

Thus it's the most retarded thing I have ever fucking read.

>>49291360
I haven't played a traditional game in almost a full year. All I do is come here and post in worldbuilding and art threads, make D&D characters I'll never get to play, and complain about the setting of games I have literally never played in my entire life.

>>49291635
what worldbuilding do you do?

>>49291652
My own, and the current alt-40k if that counts.

>>49291660
what's your own is what I meant with my question.

>>49291360
I've got over a thousand dollars worth of Sisters of Battle / Inquisition that I haven't painted at all. I want to go to a local /tg/-related club but I don't want to be the guy with a shitload of stuff that only has primer on it.

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I'll repost a confession I have made earlier since I still feel guilty about it:
Whenever I make a character, I actively scour the meta of that particular system to make a powerful character. I don't do this because I want to break the game or just curb stomp every encounter, but because I am always afraid of fucking up my part as a member of a party.

I started playing with a group I found on Tumblr and not only are they good roleplayers but they're also fun and engaging with interesting characters and bring great ideas to the table.

They're still SJWs but it's not disruptive at all beyond someone making a trans bard (And even then his player is doing a great job at playing both the good and bad parts of it). Maybe I got some toned down SJWs or something, but it's all going better than expected.

>>49292012
Does this detract from the roleplay aspect?

Do the other players enjoy your roleplaying?

I make up fake stories about fake groups on /tg/ so I can pretend I actually have a group to play with.

>>49292085
I make my character crunch first, fluff second. Everyone I know has been happy with my characters, some have even praised me, but I just can't help feeling like a bad person...

>>49291595
My melanin-enhanced friend, judging others is what we do here. No matter what.

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>>49292107
As long as this doesn't detract from the fun of the group, you shouldn't feel bad.

I'm abusing the worldbuilding threads to help me make mlp fanfiction.

>>49292093
But you don't actually do that, you're just pretending so you can fit into the "80% of /tg doesn't even play RPGs" zeitgeist.

>>49292012
I do the same thing.

Secretly I'm dying for the day when I get a group who really sucks at the game in question, and my character is undoubtedly the most powerful. I would play that character somewhat ineffectively most of the time to fit in, and bring out the more effective tactics only when necessary to save a party member.

>>49292150
Damn, how did you know?

>>49291360

I play this mega WW2 hex and chit game. 100-150 hours playtime per game.

I've stopped caring about my current game, because my allies are retards. Now I just go through the motions. I don't know whether I should leave my group and find another one (don't really want to, I do like these guys, even if most of them are terrible players), but I also don't want to spend every Tuesday of the next year playing a game that I already know how it will end.

>>49291360
i do the same, but for runequest. and to be honest, it's not a sin but a virtuous duty. dnd and all that other shit has to die.

>>49292193
Can't you just double cross your dumbass allies?
Off the top of my head, Italy switched sides as did Finland.

Or, you know, you could just tell your allies what they should be doing or what they absolutely SHOULDN'T be doing. Inform and advice them like an ally would.

>>49292060
you haven't found toned down SJWs, you have found people that aren't SJWs. SJWs are people then, and only then, if you hate them for their social justice crap. If you're fine with em, you don't call them SJWs, simple as that

>>49291360

I regularly host games nights for my friends, mainly because I'm the collector of the group so I have all the games.

Occasionally we get into situations were a vocal minority of the group will demand we all play a certain game, even though it's clear the majority is either disinterested or actively unhappy with the choices.

When this happens, I power-play the game and end it as soon as possible so that we can get the group back to playing a game everyone is happy with. Most egregious example of this was winning a game of Sky Traders in four turns.

>>49292231
Finland was never really allied with Germany, per se. I wouldn't say that they switched sides.

>>49292262
What about Ryti-Ribbentrop agreement?

>>49291360
I know that Pathfinder is a shitty excuse for some asshole's 3.5 houserules masquerading as a real RPG.

Sometimes I deliberately join Pathfinder games and do everything I can to make a character that highlights all of Pathfinder's flaws, particularly trying my best to make as many other players at the table feel as useless as possible.

Usually this doesn't require any more work than writing "wizard" or "druid" on my character sheet.

I'll usually go out of my way to sing Pathfinder's praises the whole time.

I've "accidentally" converted more than one group away from playing any RPGs at all, because no game (or just playing board games) is better than a bad game.

>>49292231

>Can't you just double cross your dumbass allies?

No, not allowed. Besides, I'm playing the USSR, so it's not like this war is going away anyway.

>Or, you know, you could just tell your allies what they should be doing or what they absolutely SHOULDN'T be doing. Inform and advice them like an ally would.

I have been, but most of the time I get a cheerful

"hyup, will do that anon" and then either forgetting or doing it so badly that I wish I hadn't asked. And some of the things that they shouldn't have been doing were so amazingly bad that I hand't thought anyone would do something like that before it happened, and by then it was usually too late.

I'm talking things like

>Oh, he's got over 200 naval bombers unopposed in this sea zone. Better send 6 battleships there.

>I know that the Japanese don't actually have anything in the Marianas sea, but they can react there, let me move a big stack of carriers there so he can engage me or not at his discretion.

>I'm going to lose Egypt to the fucking Italians because I'll just leave my forces strung out and unsupporting of each other, and not actually keep the supply lines open either. I'll also let the Italians land in Syria and do nothing while they close off the Suez canal from that side. I need all those ships, you know, so I can throw them all against his naval bombers and get them killed.

>>49292292
Finland needed the German aid to fend off the Soviet invasion, which it would have lost if not for that agreement. It was a strategic move, not a sign of like-mindedness.

>>49292489
like mindedness was never the subject of the argument

>>49291360
I am too good being the GM, I feel I can't enjoy others guys playing the role.

There are some times were I want to play a character, but it ends up being a chore, because the GM is killing the immersion and I know I can do better.

I know it's a sperg thing to do, but even some of my players are starting being interested to play a campaign only if I am the GM.

And when someone starts a campaign, they keep using my ideas. That's not a problem per se, but in the long run it's boring and half the time the guy doesn't understand what's going on.

I just want to have fun, and play with people who knows what they are doing or with a playstyle I like, in order to enjoy myself. Why is it so difficult?

I love 3.5, and I love min/maxing and using overpowered characters. I don't care if the edition dies, I am not like OP.

>>49291360
>No judging people in this thread
Where do you think you are?

>Spoiler
You are a retard, rat bastard or a troll. If the latter, 7/10, got me to reply.

>>49291360
I once wrote a fapfic about my DnD character getting captured, raped and killed [/spoiler

I miss the time when I played kitchen-sink urban fantasy PbP online games

I tend to sneak magical realm stuff into my campaigns. I just can't help it, though I try to keep it low-key

>>49291360
Fucking 3aboos. I hope you get penile and testicular cancer.

I'm not very good at creating balanced encounters and even when I do, I seem to roll really well.

Therefore, I fudge dice to keep my players alive. This DM screen isn't here to protect me, it's here to protect you!

>>49293400

I feel the same about being a player. I want to be verbose and/or have small slice of life scenes in between a murderhoboing and the next.

>>49291360

My wet dream as a GM is to start a campaign RuPaul/Masterchef/AGT style, where there are 10 or so players, and are given each session different challenges related to RPGs. Each day one is throw off the campaign, until I'm left with the dream team

I killed six player characters at last nights session, my first time ever killing characters in 10 years of running.

Im not happy with the out come, but they did everything they could to get killed the entire session.

>>49291360
My campaign world is actually full of my magical realm shit but its not too standout-ish and my players have absolutely no idea.

>>49295750
Actually, Mark, we are.

Two weeks ago I slipped That Guy some laxatives in his ice cream (ice cream sundae sunday is a bit of a tradition with my gaming group) because I'm too beta to actual confront his aspie dickishness, then found out later he crapped himself on the drive home.

Sorry Keith. Not sorry at all.

>>49295818
I'm not Mark

This isn't a big confession, but I stopped bothering to world-build in games I host because my players, while good friends and decent roleplayers, hardly ever seem to really pay much attention to their surroundings. I just use established settings like Iron Kingdoms now, since making my own is just a waste of effort for anything that isn't for those novels I keep telling myself I'll write some day.

>>49291360
I liked 4e dnd

>>49292160
I've done this before.

It's less fun than you'd hope after the first 5 times.

I always disregard the heavy special rule in 40k, its just way too annoying to play with.

>>49291360
That's retarded and petty and you are an absolute cunt and I can judge you for that all I want. This is probably one of the only confessions here that I can't not judge. This is the kind of shit not even a benevolent all loving god could forgive his children, you ARE going to burn in hell and be forced to GM FATAL for Adolf Hitler and a bunch of psychopathic pedophile serial killers, all the while you have to strample on a stationary bike that ramms a barbed wire coiled bronze lead horse dildo into your own ass while a demon squeezes out lemons over your eyes that have been pulled out of your head and left dangling on the strand of nerves still connecting it to your brain.

I confess to be currently working on an Chronicles of darkness game, based on SCP, that will later be a christian/theological circlejerk; even though most of my players are pagan/new-age/etc. I'm not doing it to spite their faith, I just wish they where less judgmental about mine.

>>49291360
I have infinitely more fun playing a murderhobo than an actual fleshed out character.

>>49291360
I am a forever DM for 9 years now. I run easily over 6000 game hours, for well about twenty people. I'm an awful player and it makes me sad. Everytime I try to play a game I do awful, like shitty person with shitty attitudes. But I'm a great DM. I think i forgot how it is not to be in the control seat. To the point It's been 2 years since I gave up being a player entirely, much to my sadness.

The main and near only reason I remain on the hobby is because of the romance aspect of characters/story, is the only part that has not became dull and predictable. PC to NPC romance and lewds are what keeps me going and if a game was strictly without those things, I'd just not want to run.

Can someone screencap the faggot of an OP for me? I want to remember this moment. The raw, caustic rage in raised in me.

I want to roleplay, but I haven't in years. All of my roleplaying friends are gone. Even my current friend, who is into roleplay, doesn't have the time, and doesn't want to be around me anyway.

I often consider an hero.

>>49297522

And the psychopathic pedophile serial killers all have a 6th sense for dodging your plot hooks and ignoring anything that you as GM think is interesting. They don't care about consequences and will make new characters 10 times per session even if you don't kill their old ones; otherwise they spend most of their time shoving objects up NPC's assholes, which they never get tired of.

Hitler doesn't really care about combat or plot or sodomy or whatever, he just wants his character to be kawaii and get into cute situations. The other PCs ruin anything he interacts with.

>>49292193
A bit late to ask, I suppose, but what game?

>>49292012
>>49292160

Doesn't sound terrible, just sounds like you would have a new kind of fun if you would let go of that and build a character for coolness-factor.

Doing fluff-first-mechanics-second, thats a ton of fun. Building mechanics-first, but focusing on a power or mechanic that you think is really cool and building around that, also lots of fun. You don't get to do either of those things if you build your character like it's PvP.

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>>49298948
Same. Can't play in other people's games, can only GM. They fuck my immersion something wild. I'm not even that great of a GM.

>>49298368
I have a lot more fun with GMing a Diablo loot'n'shoot game with powergamers than a proper NPC involved adventure.

I only run my shitty homebrew system. I've corrupted most players and stole them away from 3.5, the only D&D played around here. My homebrew has homebrews that borrow its mechanic. It is extremely small (as in I've about 10-15 people playing it), but I'm proud as fuck about it. Wish I could write a good book.

>>49297892
see >>49297522

>>49299774
Sounds dope.

I also have a lot of trouble enjoying other people's games though I've gotten better about it. It took me a while to realize that the serious games which game designers blog about are rare, and that silly, immature, probably-getting-the-rules-wrong-and-don't-care type games with a lot of improv are actually the norm.

>>49299922

That's a dumb thing to say. Most people don't want to play a game based on a mythology that they actually believe in, I think it takes a certain amount of bravery to do so, and I think that his game will be richer because it's based on things he spends a lot of time thinking about.

Or it could be vapid, uninteresting morality play, but that's a danger in any game, I don't think that borrowing from the abrahamic mythos makes it less likely to be interesting,

>>49293400
Are you me? And why are you me?

>>49298948
I-I wish I could have a GM that loved romance and lewd stuff without being weird.

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>>49301147
Cheers, mate. Thank you.

>>49291360
>no judging, no matter what
Considered yourself judged, you selfish fuck. Lying about other games just to drag plAyers into your shitty system is like a tabletop deadly sin. You're going to hell, anon. Jump off a cliff and save yourself the anticipation. Here's my confession
I know this is bait :^).

>>49301210
What I am concerned about is the number of people who could not tell.

I powergame Pathfinder characters.

And I enjoy it.

I'm still angry with one of mm players for all but forcing us to stop our Bleach game. The Quincy killed a reaper accidentally, and instead of using it for character growth, she cried for three hours and we stopped the game. I still go over my notes sometimes and lament.

I have violent thoughts about two of my players. They can't roleplay their way out of a plastic bag, make really idiotic choices, and don't understand the basics of what makes a decent character. I want to strangle them while shouting, "READ A BOOK DAMNIT!"

I don't want to GM anymore. It's exhausting. It's way too much work than I want to do right now. But my players love the worlds I build and the npcs i create. How can i deny them fun?

I am the player that will never GM. Through ineptitude, laziness or fear, I will never be confident enough in a system to run a game.

I'm also a published author... So maybe that's for the best.

>>49299081
>this badly trolled by a falseflag

Sometimes, I worry about some people.

>>49293400
>>49300760
Interesting to see there are others out there. Tell me anons, what is it that suffers your immersion? For me its bad calls. GMs who don't know how basic physics or economics work, or anything about how society functions.

>>49292339
That second spoiler - why are you not going "why don't we try something else instead", because holy shit.

>>49301325

The DMG doesn't really warn you but strong emotional reactions come with the territory and are really a sort of circumstantial victory imo. What you saw was character growth happening to a player instead of a character. Also you should totally continue that game and the quincy's player can just sit it out if she wants.

I tell all of my players 5e is just 4e with slightly more options to keep them playing 3.5

>>49301372
I'm neither of the anons you responded to, and I don't think my case is as extreme as theirs. I have however noticed that I now find the descriptions that most GMs give to be bland and stuttering.

>>49301446
Plot twist: it's been two years since that game. Also, the player is my girlfriend.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I am resigned to the fact that this Bleach game, much like our other games set in pre- established worlds, are doomed to fail. I don't even try anymore.

>>49301394
Because he's just trolling.
I don't understand why you would take any of that seriously.

I'm currently playing a character whose MO in combat is "endanger literally everyone else on the battlefield, but hurt the enemy while doing so". I'm probably going to continue with that MO, because so far it seems to be effective.

I'm playing another character in another game who I'm pretty sure is about to go into a midlife crisis, and I have absolutely no idea about how to roleplay a character who's going through a midlife crisis.

>>49301330
>I'm also a published author... So maybe that's for the best.
I kinda have the same view, although without the "published" part. I realized I don't want to use the ideas I really like on TTRPGs, so I just use diet versions of PCs, and save the full versions for myself in the future.

>>49301337
>>49301287

4chan has always been a place where people intentionally seek out dissenting opinions. They find the people who disagree with them and they talk about it and they all get to be as rude and pissy as they want.

"Don't get trolled" is cancer. It was cancer 8 years ago and it's still cancer.

>>49301489

Okay then, wallow in self-pity an defeatism, that's fine too.

>>49291360

1) My players are shit at building characters, so I often over-power my DMPCs so they don't die right away. They never read the books nor do they take time to build good characters, so it's not surprising they die when I throw an appropriate level encounter at them.

2) I build homebrew systems since I think almost all gaming systems suck ass and have too many damn rules involved. (Looking at you, GURPs.) Most of the time my players just accept shit, ask questions where it is necessary, and let it go.

3) I have only run two campaigns to it's conclusion, though I've been DMing for three years. By break-down, campaigns end in the following ways:
55% Due to sudden party death-match, where they all kill each-other due to conflicting ideas/morals.
25% Due to lack of interest OR interest in another project I'm running.
15% Due to one player doing something dramatically stupid and getting the rest killed
10% Due to all players doing something stupid and dying
5% Combat related deaths.

5) I actively sabotage sessions I have no interest in DMing. If they make me do a stupid setting, I'll gladly shoot it to shit and not feel bad. No, I don't want to do fucking robot mechs, stop asking.

6) I just reuse the same BBEG in my D&D campaigns since my heroes have yet to figure out who it is. I've ran close to 30 campaigns for D&D.

My players insist I DM and think I am quality. They always run to me and have been loyal for three years. Others say I'm a good one, average rating of 7/10.

>>49301479
Hmm... as a forever GM I am more inclined to go on at length about political or anthropological nuances of a local culture, but my setting isn't terribly saturated with striking cinematic visuals.

For instance, I might note that you're in a desert. Specifically a Xeric shrubland with no cacti. It extends for a vast region of land as deserts often do. Its inhospitable and empty. There are occasional marble ruins of a civilization that lived here ages ago, but they are weathered with time and picked clean of anything useful or informative. You're here to protect an oil field from kobold harassment while a construction team works on it, and they haven't gotten far, what with the kobolds being crafty saboteurs.

Is this sufficient or insufficient detail?

>>49301558
I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

The only place you were originally supposed to be a cockbag was in /b/. There's leniency and an extended benefit of the doubt on the other boards, but trolls have been getting banned since day one, and encouraging trolls by reacting to them just so you can act morally superior (while often spouting even worse material than what the troll provided) is just being a dumbfuck for no good reason.

"Don't get trolled" is common sense. If you are coming to 4chan just to willingly get upset, you might be better off seeking psychiatric help. If you can't afford that, just stick to the shitposting boards, where you'll find plenty to get upset about without bothering the people who want to actually discuss things.

I got roped into playing ponyfinder... and im actually enjoying it

>>49301372
Simulationist scum reporting in.

As a GM I put a lot of work into creation the illusion of an impartial world that the player can explore. I create complex situations before the session and then I commit to acting as a referee while my players interact with those situations.

It seems like most GMs just don't do that, they make it up as they go, and for me it's very transparent. What I'm doing is basically bantering with the GM to create a fun story, and that's fun, and I've learned to appreciate it more than I used to, but it's hard to care about the world around my character because I know there's basically nothing there.

>>49297522
you sound like you have a dick in your mouth. orignal penis has all the right to propagate pathfinder, albeit he would be better off endorsing runequest. /drops the dice

>>49301287
but they could kiss. the ass.

>>49301739

You are convinced that OP is a troll. I know that there are people who would say that just to troll, but I also know that there are people who would say that and mean it. The difference is immaterial to me and I consider that a healthy attitude.

"Never respond to posts which you dislike, always assume they're just making up opinions to make you made", I consider this to be a very unhealthy attitude, and I have watched this attitude degrade the level of public discourse on 4chan (and, later, on the internet in general) for many years now.

I'm not talking about namefags with toxic attitudes, and neither are you, you are talking about someone who (clearly and politely) admitted to doing something shitty. And, in doing so, OP gave me an opportunity to express an opinion which I sort of always feel like experessing anyway, which is that roleplayers all benefit from the health of the roleplaying community, and that being a partisan about your particular game is stupid. Maybe OP doesn't even play Pathfinder, but why would I give a shit? What's the difference? I got what I wanted out of him.

I love MTG. It's one of my favorite games, and I am a big fan.

But I got banned from the subreddit.

See, what happened is I posted copy pasta (the attack helicopter one) on a shower thought about sigarda helping humans give hexproof, and as you're a human it works with you. See, my thought was that "oh, an attack helicopter isn't a human, so that'll work and everybody will laugh," and lo and behold, I got banned. Now, I can accept a ban. What I can't accept is that this chump (ain't going to say his name, because he knows who I am and that's all that matters) said was that I'm PERMANATELY banned from me posting the copy pasta. I've rechecked the rules after this little episode, and NOWHERE does it say that copy pasta will get you a permanent ban, even if it's your first offense on Reddit. He also said that I wasn't someone that was wanted in the community because of this, when (up until like two weeks ago, and this happened during eldrich moon spoilers) the mtg subreddit was my HIGHEST karma rating. HIGHEST, and this guy said I wasn't wanted.

To top it all off, now every time someone makes a joke about "sexually identifying" as something, it gets people laughing! Heck, even in my English class with an unconfirmed anon from /b/ said "I sexually Identify as a washing machine," NO ONE CALLED HIM OUT. Not the Mormon teacher, not the lesbian, NO ONE. So, does this mean I got perma-banned for doing something NOT states in the rules, is that what happened?

I'm still mad at this. I might not have been as mad back then, but ooooooooooh boy this crap has been brewing for a looooong time.

Thanks, for at least reading this.

TL;DR you can't describe pain in one sentence. Now go and freaking read the whole thing, cuck.

>>49301926
Now, I am convinced you are a troll, because it's hard for you to be defending your personal brand of shitposting otherwise, as well as shitposting as a whole.

OP is obviously a troll. If you can't see that, it's either-

A) You are OP, trying to keep the charade going for a little longer
B) You are being willfully blind just so you can mouth off, saying something either incredibly stupid or just something everyone already knows

>"Never respond to posts which you dislike, always assume they're just making up opinions to make you made"

This? Strawmanning, the classic tool of a troll.

The simple rule is "Never respond to obvious trolls. Don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Just ignore them, or report them, but don't bother wasting your time engaging with them."

You broke that rule, as I am doing now, because I'm stupid enough to think that at the very least, even if I can't persuade you to stop, I can at least encourage other people to just leave trolls alone.

>>49300685
Well, your players decide the taste; my current bunch are light-hearted newbies so the rule of cool is quite in effect, and it's not hard.
They were angry that an enemy wizard counterspelled them once. The audacity of that enemy wizard, gosh.

Slowly ramping up the difficulty as they level up, and they seem cool with it.

>>49292339
>Deliberately sabotaging games because you don't like the system when you can just not join

Jesus, man, I might despise 5e but at least I don't do this shit. Just let us play what we're comfortable with/having fun with, and just play what you're comfortable with/having fun with.

Then again, I mostly despise it because I hate the player base.

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My fetish of Male Human x Female Furry has been getting in the way of my worldbuilding. I keep wanting to put a cap on the amount of beast races I want to put and I keep wanting to dig up more.
>I'll just throw in kitsune and tanuki for some nice racial conflict.
>Okay, kobolds are pretty cool and I bet I can put a unique twist on them.
>Okay so this twist requires ratfolk too.
>WoW has made me enjoy british wolf people so I can add that too.
>Dragonlance had those cool Greco-Roman minotaurs. If I tone down the evil part I could have some cool-ass minotaurs.
>Also humans and minotaurs can breed together but only male human and female minotaur. It's rare but this combination gives birth to satyr-like people seen as gifted by the minotaur gods.
And I'm thinking about adding more too. Kill me please.

>>49301646
I'm alright with that, clearly the oil field is what I care about anyway, not the vast swaths of shitty dunes. I will ask about the oil field though, and if it's capped, so I know whether or not my trademark FIREBALL RAIN is safe or not

>>49301646
I'm fine with the level of detail. For me, it's not so much how much detail but more that the GM sounds like he's as interested in the world as he wants the players to be. If the GM sounds bored and uninterested then I'm gonna have a tough time getting invested in the world.

Also, most GMs people in general stutter alot, and that really kills it for me.

>>49301996
Damn dude, my feels. For once on this whole board I feel bad for someone.

That's what you get for using Reddit.
(Says the guy who spends his whole day checking tg for new threads)

>>49302043
>Now, I am convinced you are a troll

Gee, what a surprise. Anything you don't agree with is a troll and anyone who says otherwise is also a troll.

But you are also perpetuating a very silly opinion where "quality of posts" is concerned, and I am going to call you on it, because that I what I do when I see an opinion on 4chan and think that it is wrong.

"OP your actions are bad because X, Y and Z" - This is a quality post, which discusses traditional gaming. If there were more people (trolling or otherwise) willing to espouse OP's opinion then posts such as this could lead to an actual conversation.

"You're all stupid for getting trolled" - This is a shitpost. It means that something offended you and you dont' want to talk about it but people are talking about it anyway and that makes you made. Posts such as this cannot possibly contribute anything to any conversation.

>>49292060
>I hate these people for being SJW, but in getting to know them I've learned SJWs aren't even that bad

>>49302190

Me again, I swear I do know how to spell "mad" and I don't know why I keep getting it wrong.

>>49292060
>I've learned that people are more than just one-dimensional stereotypes propagated by the internet and real life is complex and interesting

>>49302234

That post didn't surprise me at all, liberals are better roleplayers and generally better people than conservatives are.

Most liberal-hate comes from just one or two experiences with people like >>49301996 . Well, like his mod I mean.

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>>49295936
thats a felony my nigga

>>49302284
>And generally better people than conservatives are
Spotted the liberal.

Political beliefs doesn't make or break a person. You can be an asshole if you're a conservative or a liberal.

I'm participating in a freeform roleplay
And it's actually not as bad as I thought it would be

>>49292339
I do this for all D&D! Make a super broken caster, stomp all encounters boringly, brag about how great D&D casters are

>>49302093
I have no problem with beast races, but once you start getting into the specifics of hybrids, you've entered into a magical realm. If you absolutely must have half-breeds, at least spare your players the details until someone specifically asks about it.

>>49302190
>This is a quality post

No, you dumbfuck. It's a shitpost with effort put into it. That's what's eluding you, because you think that what people want to read all day is people posting retarded replies to falseflags from idiots who think typing a lot makes them sound smarter.

Anyone can type up "because X, Y, and Z". Even trolls. So, while you go back and forth, having a bullshit conversation that's basically you wanting to be upset and trolls wanting to upset you, you end up producing a mountain of unreadable garbage because your goal isn't to discuss games with people who want to discuss games.

>>49299081
How the fuck can you not get your own goddamn screencap? Are you having this shouted at you by town crier? Fuckin google "[your phone model] screencap" and follow the goddamn instructions. You're pitiful.

>>49301147

Don't indulge those people. Feed a man a fish and all that.

>>49301287
y u on 4chan if ur not gonna get trolled?

>>49302358

But assholes incline to the self-motivated politics of conservativism, whereas friendly nice people migrate to the group-oriented politics of liberalism.

>>49302625
And here I was, thinking that liberal were selfish because all their policies were about extending their personal freedoms to the detriment of society, while conservatives were more concerned with policies that were for the ultimate good of the community as a whole.

Weird how that works.

>>49302183
Lel, I guess we all have vices. Thanks for the condolences.

>>49302670
Must be hard to pretend you're not an asshole when you're gonna have to vote for Donald Trump, huh? I feel for you. Vote Johnson.

Confession 1:
>I still rp on gaiaonline.
Confession two:
>I've fantasized about my current d&d character getting railed up the ass.

>>49302742
I actually feel sorry for you, because genuinely you think your political allegiance makes you less of an asshole, rather than more.

I wonder what horrible things you've said and done without even realizing what you're doing.

>>49302769
What detriments, exactly, has liberal society brought, I wonder? It seems to me we have a peaceful, happy world growing more peaceful and happy by the day. What hazards do you propose to protect us from?

>>49302284
Well, I'm kinda glad he banned me (how else are they going to enforce the rules properly?). I'm just mad that he went... "Overboard..." With the ban hammer.

>>49302476
It was originally a way to actually put satyrs in, since it's the only reason I like them otherwise.

>>49292339
Yeah, this is just bait and the poster hasn't done these things. Casters were better at everything than other classes in 3.5, but Pathfinder does a much better job of niche protection. All casters are worse at direct combat than a fighter with equal levels unless the caster is a magus, which is a fighter/wizard hybrid class that specializes in combat above anything else anyway. Casters have niche protection too, there aren't anymore bullshit prestige classes or feats that'll let a wizard out-cleric a cleric. The only role that isn't so well protected is the skill monkey, because there are still a number of spells like Knock, Detect Secret Doors, and Glibness that are relatively low-level and perform tasks that should be the skill monkey's domain.

>>49302531
>stop talking about things that I don't want to talk about!

How about you go read something else and stop shitposting.

I'm not talking about just this thread, by the way; in this case there was no real conversation about the "troll" topic, just a lot of "you got trolled!" style shitposting. I am referring to a general trend of some anons choosing to discuss inflammatory topics and then shotlords such as yourself coming along trying to convince them that they got tricked somehow.

/tg/ is hard to troll and that is awesome. You're probably one of the posters who BEMOANS the fact that /tg/ is so easily trolled. Well, look around. On any other board what would a thread comparable to this have turned into? NOthing but trolls, and countertrolls, and assmad nancies such as yourself oh-so-helpfully pointing out the bait over and over.

Instead, what do we get? The lion's share of the thread is good, high-quality discussion of OP's fucking topic, i.e. gaming confessionals. Because when /tg/ sees a topic that they want to talk about they just talk about it. Because they aren't neurotically afraid of being one-uped by a troll. Because /tg/ is better and it always has been.

>>49302670

It depends on what country you are in, but in the U.S. it's been over a hundred years since anyone has improved any community by voting conservative. Voting conservative is voting for blatant corruption, and conservatives are people who are threatened by progressivism and so are willing to compromise with blatant corruption.

I wish it wasn't that cut and dry, because it would be more interesting if it wasn't, and frankly it's a lot easier to reach consensus when both sides have a point.

And liberals can be corrupt too and can make bad choices, because this is the real world, and having a total and obvious badguy doesn't mean that the other side is goodguys. A lot of liberals don't get that.

Most conservatives are just critics of ultra-liberal-progressivism and they vote conservative for lack of a sane option. And their points are good, and American liberals should be listening to those points. But they aren't good enough to justify voting for a conservative politician in America. Nothing is. Those guys are evil and their voter base consist overwhelmingly of very ignorant people and people with emotional problems.

Now, when I say liberals are better roleplayers and better people, that part is just a matter of taste. Liberals are statistically a lot more intelligent and better educated, and I prefer to game with more intelligent people. Different strokes for different folks. My experience with conservatives is that they don't put a lot of thought into the game and are very prone to using it as a moral soapbox, meanwhile a liberal will make a conservative character and make it sound more reasonable and sympathetic than a real-life conservative.

>>49302803

American conservatives don't know ANYTHING about socialist countries (i.e the countries filling most of the top 10 or 15 spots for highest standard of living, highest freedom of press, lowest perception of corruption, etc). Most of them think that if liberal policies run amuck you'll get Maoist China. I'm not being snide, they literally think that.

>>49303464

Thanks, McCarthy.

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can we at least pretend to be on topic?

>>49303632

On /tg/ I always pretend to be on topic, even when I'm completely off-topic, I'm very good at pretending.

Fine, fine, here's mine: I run like 2 sessions per year and my group has gotten used to it. Half the time those 1 or 2 sessions are oneshot scenarios using homebrew rules and characters that I will never revisit.

Part of it is that I work seasonally and I'm not always in town but it's mostly that I'm a procrastinating ADD kid and I'm always working on dozens of RPG/adventure/setting/short story/novel/novel-series ideas, all of which I think kick ass, and I'll probably never finish any of them.

And I think that all of my players should give up on me and stop being frustrated by all the "Yea, new session soon, I'm working on it!" bullshit. But they love my game and no matter how much I jerk them around they refuse to stop saying nice things about it and it makes me feel like such an asshole.

And yes I'm also the liberals-are-generally-better-people guy so if you want to make fun of me for both things at once that's cool.

I change my character's skills, advantages, disadvantages in subtle ways after the first couple of sessions to better suit the game I'm playing, especially if I don't think the gm will let me.

A recent example is a GURPS game today, I made up a thief character that had pacifism cannot kill and squeamish. What I didn't realize was that I'd be shoehorned into a party of bloodthirsty murderers, under the guise of an adventuring party. Fuck that. I swapped out cannot kill for self defense and squeamish for something else I don't really remember.

Not really in the mood to sit out for 3d days after every combat because my party wanted to murder everything in sight and in one case literally dissect an enemy on the battlefield.

My character flaws are always blessings in disguise.

>>49303632
Something like 50 per cent of the actual quality content on /tg/ comes from people not being on-topic, whether that's because somebody deliberately posted something ridiculous (see: toilet paper and butter golem), someone misunderstood something and /tg/ ran with it (see: literally any thread rendered awesome by someone going "I'm now imagining..." in response to a post with "for a moment I thought" in it) or because /tg/, being the place that attracts a surprising variety of people that it is, gets people with all kinds of viewpoints who are more than willing to have arguments online and can still maintain a high standard of spelling, grammar and non-retardedness.

tl;dr: how about no

>>49291360
Forgive me Father but 3500 points of my 4000 point 30k army is recast.

It's WarDream though, so no one has even the foggiest idea

My confession is that I want quest threads back on /tg/ and don't comprehend why they were removed in the first place.

>>49292012
I'm guilty of something similar

I come up with a character concept desgined for RP and end up min-maxing and even sometimes outright cheating (fudging rolls for stats ect.) because i'm worried my char will be inept

I genuinely believe I am the best roleplayer in my group, and every time I try to play out a scene, I am reminded of how two dimensional, predictable and dull everyone elses characters are.

It's gotten to the point where I refuse to put effort into my characters or even run a game, because I feel it's a huge waste of effort for a group that's unable to appreciate it.

I've kicked women out of my games so I don't get accused of sexism just because they lost. I've made up all kinds of excuses.

I genuinely do this for my protection.

>>49291635
Maybe I can help ya

>>49300685
>I also have a lot of trouble enjoying other people's games though I've gotten better about it. It took me a while to realize that the serious games which game designers blog about are rare, and that silly, immature, probably-getting-the-rules-wrong-and-don't-care type games with a lot of improv are actually the norm.

I know, but they can't be all the games out there, and their problem is sheer incompetence. There's only a guy who's really good, he plays since I was born and he used different settings and rules. Too bad he plays with this other guy who keeps doing the same shit over and over again (torturing and killing important NPCs) failing the campaing. And I think the GM likes it, because when I tried playing with him, he totally ignored the rest of the party following this guy.

>>49300760
>Are you me? And why are you me?
Probably because we are the ones in our groups who cared to understand and know the rules, and have a decent cultural level not to fuck up everything.

>>49301372
I am >>49293400

GMing is hard, and because of that there are too many things that can go wrong. You shouldn't feel ashamed for being a bad GM. It happens. You should feel bad if you didn't do your best.

Between them, I really hate when GMs treat everything like it's a videogame. Blatant side quests makes me nervous, can't we play something more organic and based on a living world? I love videogames too but I play them alone, I don't need a PnP videogame.
The other thing I don't like it is when the GM doesn't do description and just take out a portrait of the character, ignores the world around the player, and worst of all, just tell the damage without describing the action.

Basically the problem is the lack of cure. If a GM just doesn't care enough to do a good work, you can call him out immediately, and abuse the thing.

>>49292012
You must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
You will face your fear.
You will permit it to pass over you and through you.
And when it has gone past you will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only you will remain.

>>49301754
Are you me?

I run my games in exactly the same simulationist , sandbox manner and find that I can't play in other games at all because I know it is being invented on the spot and and this style of 'illusionism' seems to be heavily defended but it stinks of gross laziness to me.

Take for example a murder mystery scenario , the simulationist GM designs it so an NPC really did commit the murder and sprinkles clues so the players can work it out. The players might catch him or they may not and both will have interesting consequences for the game and world. The illusionist just lets the players wave their dicks around and eventually decides that whoever they pick as the suspect really is the suspect, or not, entirely arbitrarily as he has no idea of anything in advance. I don't see how anybody could disagree that the latter is far, far more satisfying and I don't know how anybody could enjoy playing the former.

The argument tends to be that the players will not realise anyway but as far as I'm concerned that's total bollocks. Your players are intelligent human beings and they do pick up on this shit , they just don't call you on it because of social contract and they may not realise better exists.

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>>49301558
>4chan has always been a place where people intentionally seek out dissenting opinions. They find the people who disagree with them and they talk about it and they all get to be as rude and pissy as they want.
That could be on a banner somewhere.
(Got a story about that)

>"Don't get trolled" is cancer.
I disagree with you. But I would discuss the matter with you rather than insist you are trolling.
For the record, I suspected the OP was fibbing, but did not assume it was trolling, just OP faggotry.

>>49301926
>The difference is immaterial to me and I consider that a healthy attitude.
>"Never respond to posts which you dislike, always assume they're just making up opinions to make you made", I consider this to be a very unhealthy attitude
I agree and assume this is what you meant by “cancer” earlier.

>>49302190
>"OP your actions are bad because X, Y and Z" - This is a quality post
>"You're all stupid for getting trolled" - This is a shitpost
This.

>>49303244
>On any other board what would a thread comparable to this have turned into?
Wait- There are *other* boards?
>>49302043
>B) You are being willfully blind just so you can [post your countering opinion]
Not him, but I think this is close. Referring “suspending your disbelief” as “being willingly blind” is a touch hyperbolic though.

I actually agree with the adage, “Don’t respond to obvious trolls.”
It encourages idiots and bad trolls. If I see an obvious troll post on a subject, I ignore it.
If I see a probable troll post with an arguable point, I post my position and gauge their response.
Because this is /tg/.
Your waifu is shit.
Your favorite system sucks.
And your opinions are objectively wrong.

However, I have to ask where you consider “commenting on other people responding to what you perceive as trolls” falls on the shitposting scale.

My confession: I once successfully convinced an anon to seek therapy when my goal was just to out him as a troll.

Tl;dr: He made

>>49305822
Too many characters?

>>49305955
There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And there's not much love to go around
Can't you see this is the land of confusion?

>>49303244
>good, high-quality discussion of OP's fucking topic

Holy shit, you are actually serious.

You're a fucking moron.
You actually addressing OP's secondary topic has lead to dumb whining and soap boxing from idiots like yourself.

/tg/ is easy to troll, and so we get dumb trolls, and we also end up with incredible idiots like you who enjoy getting trolled.

And that's certainly something to bemoan.

>>49305955
>Too many characters?
If you are referring to the last line, see >>49302243

>>49305963
Also, this is truly the land of confusion.

>>49306040
Bah.
Not him but the first half of the thread had more OP rage and the second half had more derailment.
I see nothing to bemoan.
But then, you like to bemoan, don't you?
Each to their own.
I personally don't have strong feelings for tilework, the same is not true of everyone.

Man, I have so many.

I still gloat every time I remember that an rpg group died after I left/was kicked out.

I was one of the two "GMs". My partner's contribution was coming up with the idea. I was recruited to do all the work and tell people "no". Got tired of being combination Disciplinarian and Scapegoat for when my partner went behind my back on something we decided and let someone have what they wanted anyway and could I please take it back?, so I took a break. Wasn't gone long before my mod powers were removed.

Within a few weeks the group folded, only to be "rebooted" and fizzle out a slow, horrible, messy death as everyone got to do whatever the fuck they wanted, which was mostly be the Specialist Snowflake Of All.

How about also:

Let a character get involved in a character romance with another PC "under the table"/semi-OOC. Whatever, it was fun, so what if it wasn't entirely canon?

They were involved in another romance with another PC. My character was barely allowed to have other friends without the other PC/their player getting pissy about it. The one they were most pissy about ended up being my character's official love interest, not out of spite, but because they really genuinely clicked.

I don't miss the other romance in the least.

The relationship dynamic isn't my kink like the other one was, but there's comfy-cute and a real, healthy partnership based on friendship - as opposed to my character having to constantly prove they were "good enough" to even be noticed by senpai. Plus the lewds is always fun rather than the same shit all the time.

I once created an IM account to talk to a possibly mentally deficient person under the guise I was a character from a cartoon. A character she had an unhealthy fixation on.

The fandom had a girl in it notorious for her fixation. She drew fanart, wrote fanfic, & tried to apply to RPs already married to the character. It was a wonderful trainwreck & consensus was torn over whether or not they were a troll. Someone else got curious enough to hit her up on IM.

This person posted logs of their chats. One of which included a bit about how she was convinced she was visited in the middle of the night by the character, because she woke up with something white & crusty on her chest. She was thrilled.

The curious person had a brainstorm. What would happen if this trainwreck/troll was able to actually talk with the character in question? Obviously *they* couldn't do it. They weren't a good enough rper. So I got recruited. Why not? I was of the opinion they were a troll.

I think I only managed one or two conversations before I couldn't hack it any longer. It's been years & guilt has made me forget most of what we discussed. But their real, desperate loneliness & the idea that I might have been making actual psychosis worse made me feel so guilty I wanted to throw up. So I said I had to be away for awhile & stopped using the account.

I was haunted for ages when the other person involved kept passing me IM logs where the trainwreck went on about how wonderful it was to talk with the character & how much they missed them.

It still makes me feel horrible.

But at least on checking in on them, they seem to have moved on to other characters.

Unfortunately, either they are the most master of trolls, truly dedicated to keep it up for more than 10 years, or they are actually as disturbed as I picked up on.

>>49305424
You are a sexist.

>>49305479
Looks weird in second person.

>>49300907
You still can *wink*

>>49301372
Mostly it's the shallowness of NPCs. They are all the same people all the time. I put so much effort in making the way they speak and phrase things different, put motivations and undertones and enrich them. Most of my DMs end up making them 2D, shallow pieces to serve a function. Give a quest, fight the adventurers, etc. But they never do that for a 'Reason', except the basic reason that they exist for.

my favorite DnD is 3e. Not 3.5 but 3. It's the edition my cousin played so it's the one I first played and eventually my cousin gave me all his books, miniatures and an old book that just has a bunch of notes and ideas. It has sentimental value to me

I've never actually ever played a PnP game, of any sort.

The /tg/-est board game I've played is Settlers of Catan, and that only because I wanted to see if the nerd hype was founded (naturally, it wasn't).

I used to play MtG, but it's been over a decade since I've played, and I don't really get what's going on anymore.

I want to start a Star Trek game, a "You're the Admiral" scenario and/or using the LUG system or maybe heavily modifying Traveler, but I'm too pussy to put myself out there, and it would probably end horribly anyways in a "blind leading the blind" sort of way - see the first thing.

I come to /tg/ for off-topic or non-game-specific threads. Even though it's a shadow of what it once was, Moot (RIP in peaces) was right: /tg/ is the best board.

>>49291360
i have a bad habit of banging cute group members and have occasionally brought people into the group just for that purpose. I'm still seeing the trap from time to time.

I have a bad habit of bumping threads that I probably shouldn't.