Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>49277927
How would anyone play a character who is permanently in gaseous form?

>>49277967
Live in a balloon

>>49277927
>How does it feel to know that H.P. Lovecraft is "officially" a kitsune?
Explain

>>49277967
Very carefully. Avoid areas with high winds.

>>49277927
Today, i learnt why using sleeping characters in an ambush as an improvised bludgeoning weapon is a bad idea.

>>49278027
Alex "Totally Not a Furry, Guys, I Swear" Augunas put out a new book for the RH Occultist. Guess what one of the vestiges is.

>>49278027
>>49278074
https://sli.mg/a/kikYv2
Updated album.

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>>49278027

A brave (perhaps foolhardy) anon purchased a copy of the Grimoire of Lost Souls, a 3pp book about binders written by Alex Augunas, and shared it with /pfg/. It contained many horrifying and blatantly sexual (if not outright fetishistic) pact entries-it also had one about a kitsune whose mind got stolen by some otherworldly entity, which is what OP is referring to.

Now you know as much as we do.

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N'th for "How do I Warsighted Oracle? What's the TL;DR for the simplest ways to use Martial Flexibility?" and "With mostly just 1pp, and passing over Paladin/AntiPaladin, what are fun gestalts for a Strength Oracle that's taking a Mystery to get Cha to AC/Reflex/CMD?"

>>49278043
Why exactly you thought that doing that was* a good idea at the time ?

>>49278123
>>49278027

H.P. Lovecraft did not have his mind stolen, he was writing based off the Necronomicon, which was written by the Mad Arab Abdul Alhazred.

>>49278043
Is it because of the -4 penalty to your to-hit value?

So /tg/, how do I help out a friend that wants to play but doesn't give a fuck about the game the second the encounter is over?

He enjoys combat and enjoys playing the game with us, but will do nothing on his down time to look at anything in the game. He is currently playing a sorcerer and I'm trying to help him by giving him 4-5 spells he would learn each time he gets a new slot, but he has yet to use any of the spells he has picked.

He is currently level 6, picked up Blur, Glitter dust, and Fractions of Heal and Harm for his second/third level spells, but only keeps picking his blasting spells from level 1 that he knows. He keeps picking up utility and then never using it or never needing it.

I don't want to say "fuck you, you are taking this spell", but he is taking spells that he never uses and using only grease and blasting magic.

>>49278230
If he only knows combat, either force him into combat scenarios that invalidate his normal stratagem (such as enemies immune to trip/grease or with the right energy resistances, or force him to engage in and deal with non-combat encounters that require utility magic.

Basically, force him out of his comfort zone where he has no choice but to adapt to survive.

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>>49278164

Didn't say he did-apparently some kitsune wrote a story about it based on some journal that kitsune occult scholars like to talk about. Hence, kitsune Lovecraft.

>>49278279
I'm not the DM, just trying to help him out since he shows interest, just nothing past what happens at the table.

>>49278230
Or if he has fun blasting shit, just give him some more blasting spells or metamagic feats so he can blast better. I mean, fuck, why isn't he allowed to have fun too?

>>49278374
Because he doesn't choose blasting spells.

I gave him the option of Haste, Firestream, Fireball, Ice Spears, Silver Darts, and a few other damaging level three spells. The DM mentioned Fractions as a silly off-hand joke. He took Fractions.

The problem is he likes blasting, but isn't picking up blasting spells when presented to him.

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>Lore Oracle/Paladin with bow and Child curse

Would you?

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Which Witch Patron and Oracle Curse is the best for the new pact wizard from Haunted Heroes?

Healing (since Wizard don't get most of the spell in that patron)

Maybe Lame curse so I can spam Academae Graduate?

>>49278478

That small child is wielding the Starbow, a weapon Arueshalae uses and only gives to someone she deeply trusts.

>Starting a combat focused campaign
>Party already has all the casters it needs (the dm will allow)
>dm known for going overboard with the difficulty, party often unwilling to run
>Not sure what I want to play yet

Any classes stand out in terms of general surviviability in combat? All official content is a go, 3rd party stuff is greenlit case by case.

>>49278631
Vitalist?

>>49278631
Starting level?

So on top of being a bloated mess of books and classes it's reduced to not even hiding the authors various fetishes?

>>49278668
Starting level 3

>>49278666
Haven't played a Psion before, I'll look into it

>>49278631
>dm known for going overboard with the difficulty, party often unwilling to run
That sounds familiar.

Stuff by DreamScarred Press is always fun. Psionics and Path of War.

Zweihander Warder archetype for Path of War is the most broken martial class in the game according to /tg/.

Aegis is a fun martial class. You get a lot of passive bonuses like the Fighter, but you take them as part of a suit of armor. You can change in an instant between super defense (extra Dex for dodge AC, DR/-, Energy Resistance), utility (having a backpack someone else can ride in, flying, climbing, underwater), and offense (~4 sizes up, +6 str, +5ft reach that stacks with size bonuses, dual wielding two handed weapons)

>>49278518
I'd say Merciful would work for Acadamae Graduate as well, although it would eat some actions to get rid of the fatigue, it would also give you straight healing you wouldn't otherwise be able to get.

>>49278712

Why do people get butthurt about the Zweihander Sentinel when they, in the same breath, casually suck the Aegis's ectoplasmic dick?

>>49278596

I'm just saying. Immortal loli paladin with huge charisma.

>>49278631

Well, in terms of 1pp, paladins can be pretty hard to kill. Good saves, several immunities, and Lay on Hands, plus you have Smite to tear bad guys apart. An Invulnerable Rager barbarian gets DR equal to half your level-add in the various Superstition powers, and you've got a very angry man who just won't die.

>>49278699
For Paizo content. Paladin or Warpriest have swift action self healing ability.

>>49278755
I was not trying to be smug or smart there. Zwei Warder is largely considered the best Martial Class here.

>>49278518
Looking at patrons, Shadow would give you insane utility, while Time has a very solid selection of spells.

>>49278757

Loli should not have large charismas, it's not right.

>>49278798
All Shadow X spell are already on Wizard list though. The patron is good for witch, but kinda meh on Wizard

>>49278817

The largest!

What's wrong, anon, does that intimidate you?

>>49278755
It's popular, but I honestly don't think Zweihander Sentinel is the best by a large margin.

Warlords are superior if you want pure offense
So are Mystics.

>>49278518
>Witch Patrons
Healing - gives you access to the Restoration spell line, which can be very useful and isn't something Wizards normally have access to.

Strength gives Divine Favor, Divine Power and other spells for boosting your physical characteristics. You pry won't want to get into melee range anyway, but it's not bad for boosting dexterity and such so you can hit with your ranged attacks.

Mind can give you access to a bunch of Psychic spells, and they tend not to be terrible. I'd say it's a fair pick.

Devotion isn't very good at low levels but has some decent high level spells (bestow grace of the champion, holy aura and mass heal).

For Curses, Wasting is always a decent pick. Legalistic has some nice synergy with the Planar Binding spells. Infested Goblin is awesome if you're playing a Goblin wizard. If 3pp Curses are allowed, Feral is cool. Forsaken is probably the best one (automatic raise dead if you die after level 10).

>>49278847

They'll attract all sorts of attention! Huge charisma lolis will be turning heads wherever they go!

>>49278863
>>49278796

It's more like people moan whenever the ZweiSent gets mentioned or praised, but in the same thread you get people casually gushing over the Aegis and how it's the perfect class for basically any build.

>>49278873
Oh devotion could be fun!

>>49278757
Sounds great. My vigilante battlemaid will select your hugely charismatic loli paladin as her target for Companion to the Lonely.

>>49278885
oppai lolis?

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>>49279092

>>49279092
>>49279270

Breasts are best.

Though big thick butts are better.

>>49279280
And if you combine them
you get shortstacks?

>>49278195
No, the GM already let me take catch off guard (he also ruled that any magic enchantments to unarmed attacks also apply to improv weapons). It's just that i did to the poor sleeping magus 18 damage when i missed the giant porcupine dog and hit the floor.

In my defense, ha had failed 4 rolls in a row to wake up. Might as well make him useful.

>>49279295

I guess, but I've been very, very tired of short stacks recently.

Girls with big booties and boobs just sound better, especially if they're older.

>>49279300
Wouldn't the poor sleeping magus have been even more hurt if you had slammed him into the giant porcupine dog?

>>49278518
Are there any other classes or archetypes besides this one that get Oracle Curses?

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>He doesn't indulge the GM's magical realm

>>49279697

Magical realm is a fetish you don't want to indulge.

But I get what you're saying, and oddly enough I agree; once in a while I'm fine with giving the DM a little tug under the table, even if I'm not really into it. He or she deserves that much sometimes, and it just means they'll go down on me later.

>>49279338
I was a brawler, and i didn't want to take 4d4 bleed damage every time i attacked them with an unarmed strike.

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Your Paladin is sent on a mission of utmost secrecy. How does your character behave and interact with the party?

>>49279518
IIRC there's a beguiler archetype that takes the clouded vision curse.

>>49279326
So ara~ara~ is what you're going for.

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>monsters with swallow whole
>gm starts going into detail about it
>too much detail

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>>49279724

>>49279802

Not even, I'm talking a straight up older, unmarried woman who may or may not have kids. None of that motherly personality or refined noble-lady or even perverted crib-robber schtick, just a career soldier/priestess that every now and then likes getting her thick ass used by someone close to or her own age.

Just been something I'm really into this past week, older chicks that don't fit the traditional /ss/ or MILF mold.

Cleric/Druid hybrid class.

Y/N?

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>>49279887
What I'm reading here is "realistic adult woman".

Prime taste, friend.

>>49279918
For what fucking purpose? They already have enough overlap as-is, and we really don't need another arcanist.

>>49279918
but why

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>>49279887
That is too normal my friend

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>>49279887
>When anon's fetish is 'average college age female'

>>49279778
As normal, deflecting or dodging questions about any activities he performs in pursuit of his task.

If pressed, the easiest response is the truth: "I'm on a mission from God."

Then he'll put on his sunglasses, straighten his tie, and rev the engine of his Dodge Monaco before speeding off to save the world.

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How would one go about fixing the Corruption rules?

>>49280014
>>49280007
>>49279932

To be fair, we're so saturated with certain archetypes online that "normal mature Western woman" is kind of refreshing.

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So I'm planning on rolling a synth summoner for the first time because it sounds cool. I've been wondering though about how exactly that sort of character looks. Traditionally the summoner and his eidolon are just a dude and his weird pet creature. However the fluff for synth describes the eidolon as "translucent armour".

So is this similar to a stand, or could it be roleplayed as something akin to a symboite like venom, that when is summoned, becomes a physical extension of the summoner? I mean, I'm sure the DM would be cool with either because they're chill, but idk what the general thought is.

>>49280036
Don't make them NPCify anyone who starts taking them, and don't make them shit to take.

>>49280059
That should tell you something about your life, or at least about the way you spend your time.

I'm saying go socialize with the real world, it's a riot of insanity that the internet couldn't hope to replicate.

>>49280064
AFAIK its symbiote like venom.
Although you should totally play it as a stand.

>>49279991
>>49279961

Arcanist wasn't enough.

>>49280069
Agreed; NPCification makes absolutely no sense
And by 'not shit to take', do you mean make them less punishing?

>>49280064
A decent example might be the aegis artwork from UltPsi, though that is also a goblin.

Venom/Carnage are decent working points as well, though I wouldn't be surprised if someone in, say, Iron Gods wanted their armor to look like a suit of MJOLNIR from the Halo series.

>>49280036
Pretty much what >>49280069 said - don't make them turn PCs into NPCs. That was the first rule we took out in my campaign.

I'm going to get a Living Legend Soulknife as a cohort, and this shit seems awesome, but what kind of feats should i take? I've got straight up no idea where to even start. The soulknife in question is an Intknife, with a good Dex and Con score, and an int score of 25.

I'm pretty sure the main thing needed is increasing the damage.

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>>49280083

>Implying I'm a shut-in

It's less a case of "I never get this in my day-to-day" and more "when I'm online it's kind of fun to see something I experience get used."

>>49279779
Nope, that drawback was (quite fairly IMO) removed from the scarred mourner.

>>49280157
Well, what bladeskills does it have? If you feel like you're missing out on one, you can nab Extra Bladeskill for it. Don't forget the Psionics Augmented series on soulknives.

>>49280181
Fair enough. I'm sort of a shut-in so it gets projected.

Hey Occultistfag, if you're still around can you post caps of the Occult Scholar archetype? I'm using it in a game right now and I want to see the changes.

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>>49280064
This is what they canon, resemble.

>>49280207
its only level 3, with a blade skill of Focused Offense, since it probably couldn't hit anything. (Im taking the Cohort feat, and later retraining it into a Leadership feat.)
Even so, im not sure what extra bladeskill i should take. I don't really think its missing out on a bladeskill though.

>>49280285
No, use the versions made by the better artist!

>>49280207
I also highly recommend the Psionics Augmented Series.

>>49280084
>>49280285
>quadruped synth eidolon
>human summoner
Is.. That allowed? I thought you had to have all the limbs that your synth had. I suppose a human can sorta run on all fours though.

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>>49280285

>>49280328
Whatever gave you that idea?

If I'm 11th level and can only use 1PP material, what's the best build for a guy who focuses on single-target buffs and debuffs? I was thinking of a Curse-oriented Oracle, but I'm not sure.

For reference, the guy I'm trying to buff is a Warpriest, and the other party members are a Druid and a Sorcerer. I don't know what any of their combat styles are specifically, but we'll just assume they use very generic strategies.

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>>49280451
>For reference, the guy I'm trying to buff is a Warpriest, and the other party members are a Druid and a Sorcerer. I don't know what any of their combat styles are specifically, but we'll just assume they use very generic strategies.

>Warpriest, Druid, Sorcerer and maybe Oracle
>Four caster classes

I've always thought it was silly how people act surprised when they hear I prefer playing martial classes, and appreciate a martial's presence even if it feels like they go without saying.

And then I see a post like this and get reminded people don't play martials as often as they should.

>>49280485
Because pure martials rarely get fun toys in 1pp material.

>>49280485
Well, the Warpriest isn't a very good class, even if he is a martial. I was thinking I could help him out.

Also this >>49280517, I'd have made a Warlord if I could.

>>49280517

They get enough to get by, and it's not like you can't just have a nifty fun character through roleplay and the campaign itself.

>>49280485
Play martials with small amount of magic for best of both worlds
Warpriest, Bloodrager, Hunter/Ranger, they are all fun.

>>49280485
Probably because 1pp martials are a pain in the ass to make useful if you want to do anything other than hit things in combat. You can still enjoy them, but they're much harder since you're fighting against mechanics.

On that note anon, how would it make you feel that my currant group is a Summoner, Alchemist, and Inquisitor? The alchemist also bought into the Promethean/Preservationist memebuild

>>49280451
Cyclopean Seer Oracle, use Doomsaying on anything that's remotely threatening until your GM makes every enemy immune to curses out of spite.

>>49280533
>even if he is a martial
a caster.

Brain pls.

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>>49280561
>how would it make you feel that my current group is a Summoner, Alchemist, and Inquisitor?

I mean, as long as you guys are having fun...

>>49280562
Are there any archetypes compatible with it that'll give me the Misfortune hex as well?

>>49280619
Aside from spiders with pounce and rake, there haven't been any close calls. It turns out two people dumping earth elementals en-masse on enemies while a Greatsword Inquisitor hacks away is highly effective. Who'dve guessed?

The fun has diminished after our summoner decided to be a petulant little shit last session, but that's unrelated to party composition.

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>>49280485

>mfw nobody bats an eye when the casters do cool things with their spells
>mfw people get salty when my barbarian does exactly what he should be doing and kill large threats with one or two hits

>>49280806
Then they get even saltier when someone shoots a dude in the face for half as much as the barbarian - but still enough to kill the dude outright - from OH NO 80ft away.

At what point is it too much optimization, /pfg/?

>>49280851

Holy shit, 50 damage from 80 feet away in ONE ROUND? That's insane, how did the developers allow this?! Clearly the player is a powergamer.

>>49280876

When you're rubbing off 4 points on your Intelligence to bump your Strength up an extra point.

When you think an after-racial 18 at level 1 is "not enough."

When you think stacking more than two classes on your build is good sense.

When you think having a 1-20 build at all is good sense.

>>49280926
>When you think having a 1-20 build at all is good sense.
It can be good to hedge your bets when your group is never sure what level to start on until a few hours before the first session when you have had a character concept in mind for a while.

>>49280926
>When you think stacking more than two classes on your build is good sense.
Bait

>>49280876
Depends on the group and what's the mood at the table. If everyone is playing like that, you shouldn't feel bad going all out. If no-one is playing like that, you should reign yourself in.

>>49280982
I feel like they meant more in a 'have everything specifically mapped out' as opposed to 'a general plan'

>>49281023

Has anyone here ever encountered a situation where a player *didn't* rein it in? Where everyone showed up with competent, fun builds and someone comes along with a min-maxed monstrosity?

>>49281047
Yes, the correct response is to talk to the player. That's actually the correct response for everything in game.

>>49280926
>almost every character I've made has at least one 20 after racials
>I have one character that will likely hit 3 classes by 10th level
>That character is gonna end up with CHA to AC x3 at the very least, with a charisma near 40 before items

I mean, really?

>>49281061
One of my players is fucking my wife, but he's a really good roleplayer and keeps the party together.

What do I do /pfg/?

>>49281047
Well, I had one game where everyone else was fairly unoptimized, and one player showed up with a pretty highly optimized character(twice, after his first character died). But he was a nice guy and he filled roles no-one else wanted to do(like healer and utility caster - the first character was a vitalist, for instance) in a generally low-key manner, so it was pretty much a non-issue.

>>49281027
Well that could still depend on the character.
If you map out a Fighter's feats or an Oracle's mysteries, that's not nearly as bad as planning out which spells you need to pick up for your spellbook at every level, including via scroll shopping, killing other Wizards, etc.

>>49280926
>When you think an after-racial 18 at level 1 is "not enough."
High point buy can mean that that's actually true though.

>>49281117
Well yeah. The less decisions there are to make, the less questionable it is to have all of them premade.

>>49281088
Did you try talking to your players and scheduling game at a different time so the player isn't fucking your wife during it? It's generally a good thing for a group to decide to ban distractions during game.

>>49281158
I once made a Sorcerer with spells known planned out from the start, but that was more out of boredom than anything else. I still haven't played that character.

>>49281130

To me, high point buy means getting an 18 in strength and then having fun with making my attributes reflect the character.

>>49281225
Ditto.

>>49281088
>One of my players is fucking my wife, but he's a really good roleplayer and keeps the party together.
>What do I do /pfg/?
Keep the bro, drop the hoe.

I revised the Corruption rules. Please give any criticism or suggestions you have to improve it, since it's the first draft.

http://pastebin.com/uUGMBeZu

>>49281225
I tend to use 32 PB, which gives an 18 16 14 12 10 8 array.

It's way too easy to get a 20 post racials without dumping too hard.

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>>49281277
>32 PB

>>49281277

>8 charisma

Anon please, if you bump the strength to 18 with a racial +2 you'd be saving 7 points, which could be used to get a fancy 12 Charisma and have the right to call your character "one formidable dude."

8 charisma just seems like "strong faceless goon."

>>49281323
It's mainly because the DM likes throwing dungeons full of CR+3 encounters presided over by a CR+6 boss and gets mad when we decide to camp overnight in secured areas to recover daily resources/hp.

>>49281349
The array isn't necessarily in that order. I wouldn't want Wis that low on a Str based character anyway. Domination isn't fun.

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>>49280339
>>49280285

If you have multiple natural attacks, can you full attack with all of them and your manufactured weapons below BAB+6?

>>49280064

if you want something that will play more like an actual stand/stand-user combo go Fractured Mind Spiritualist. your casting stat becomes CHA and your phantom is now a force of your personality (aka FIGHTING SPIRIT) made manifest

>>49281432
Yes. You make your attack with your main weapon, and the rest of your natural attacks count as secondary attacks. Don't be that dumbass that tries to make claw attacks while wielding a greatsword though, that doesn't work like that.

>>49280982
...Do groups like this exist?

I can't imagine how you could expect people to put actual effort into their builds in PF without giving them a level to start.

>>49280926
>When you think having a 1-20 build at all is good sense.
Yeah you can fuck right off. That's a natural consequence of a game loaded to the brim with trap options.

>>49281782
They aren't trap options. They're just not good options to make our Ivory Tower players feel better about themselves.

>>49281323
I also run 32pb.
Higher point buys generally let people build more interesting things.

At the end of the day unless you're in a MAD class, which needs the help, all your secondary stats hardly matter apart from an extra +1 or +2 here or there.

What are good ways to reduce preparation time for wizards/arcanists?

I'm ideally looking for as short as possible, but any examples will do.

>>49281887
Have pre-selected spell loadouts ahead of time.

>>49281905
I mean stuff like Collegiate Arcanist's Intoned Recollection. (I can't remember what the non-OGL name is)

>>49281692
>claw attacks while wielding a greatsword
Nah, bite and gore with a longspear.

>>49281930
The Pact Wizard can memorize all spells in 15 minutes.

>>49281930
I don't think you can reduce Intoned Recollection, but you can reduce the time it takes to prepare spells each day with Fast Study or something similar.

What are some decent teamwork feats to get as a Drill Sergeant/Myrmidon Fighter? Party is a Wizard, Fey Adept, and Heavens Oracle.

I played the first module of Strange Aeons and is fucking retarded.

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>>49282342

>>49282247
So it's caster heavy and everybody is playing different classes?

Bonded Mind and Share Spells lets your casters cast their "You" spells on one another, which can be marginally useful.

Spellchain is decent enough, letting your spellcasters work together to overcome SR.

Those are about the only ones that spring to mind though.

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>>49282360
Compared to the first module of Carrion Crown In search of Sanity cold opening and main reason shit hits the fan in the asylum is hurried and absurd at best.
In The Haunting of Harrowstone you have a build up, the supernatural phenomena start to increase exponentially until the PCs are compelled to investigate and to stop the stirring of the psycho killer ghosts in the ruined prison.
In the first module of Strange Aeons all start because a patient is possessed by a nightmare doppelganger that is a follower of Hastur and the psychiatrist treating him fucks up using experimental methods from an ancient keleshite medical book, unleashing the entity into the material world.
You spend most of the adventure fighting ghoul and doppelgangers and the haunts are uninspired at best compared to the ones of the first module of Carrion Crown.

>>49280895
There must be some way to stop this!

Quick! Tie a mouse-cord around your wrist and flop around a few minutes! You have more than the maximal human dexterity don't you?

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>>49282484
It's almost like they were written by different people and comparing them to eachother is redundant.

>>49281088
What is it? Your boss? The party fighter? some delivery guy?

>18 year old highschool girl

Why don't I tell us about our sale on HD cameras and high capacity external drives...

>>49282191
I don't see that aspect in Pact Wizard

>>49281088
You two should spit roast her in the middle of a session.

>>49282453
Can't get any of those, as a filthy martial I don't meet the prerequisites for any of those except Bonded Mind.

>>49282536
See
>>49278518

It's the Pact Wizard archetype from the Horror Heroes Handbook, not to be confused with the Pact Wizard from the Familiar Folio.

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>>49282526
Thematically both campaigns are heavy on horror.
The Haunting of Harrowstone showed that a low level adventure can deliver a frightening experience thanks to haunts and narrative skill, In Search of Sanity is basically a dungeon crawl without charm that has been written by an edgy teenager: Your characters wake up after having a nightmare of being hunted and killed by a Freddy Krueger wannabe, then you see one of the asylum orderlies being gruesomely tortured front of you but the doppelganger is so distracted by its sadism doesn't realize you steal its key that will release the party from imprisonment, anyone killed by the Freddy wannabe becomes a ghoul or a doppelganger...
Really, it was excruciating.

>>49282620
Then you are of absolutely no use to them whatsoever. Still, if any of them ever decide to summon up monsters, you could give those monsters teamwork feats if that's any consolation.

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>>49282632
Maybe your GM just didn't portray it right? You also sound like you have personal bias.

>>49277967
How balanced is a race that is permanently in gaseous form?

>tfw Sage/Figment familiar, so it has really low HP and can't move more than 100ft away from me
>Whenever I'm targeted by an AoE the familiar fails because familiar-tier saves, and the familiar gets fried and vanishes for the day

Is there anything I can do about that?
Can they get exempt from AoE stuff if I carry them?

>>49282832
Not at all.

>>49282842
>Can they get exempt from AoE stuff if I carry them?
Yeah if they're on you, familiars are considered part of you.

>>49282892
Right, my PC will now forever have a cat on her head.

(Where exactly in the rules does it say that?)

>>49282876
Well they're certainly not going to become imbalanced. No legs to trip over.

>>49282150
Tail too, and wing buffets if you can get 'em.

Gotta make being within your reach just as bad as not.

>>49282733
I mean, it's Horror written by Paizo, the same people that put actual stats on Cthulhu, making him something you can kill and, thus, not something that has any place in lovecraftian horror.

He's unnecessarily salty about it, but honestly.

Who the fuck has any high expectations for Paizo anymore?

>>49282832
About as busted as a 3 copper whore.

>>49282963
Apparently Paizo is making a Sci-Fi Pathfinder in ~spaaaaace~

I can't name a single soul that would play that shit

>>49282963
Back in the day Paizo showed some taste with horror, specially with Rise of the Runelords.
In the hands of a competent GM, Aldern Foxglove becomes the most memorable villain in the whole campaign, more than the main BBEG because you meet him when is still a functional normal human being that is going through an ordeal after killing his own wife in a jealousy attack.
Then he gets infected with Vorel's Phage and he turns into an undead horror with a multiple personality disorder.
I know that the Graul Family was intended to be a tribute to old redneck horror movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the Hills have Eyes or Deliverance but found them more disgusting than scary.
Still none of that material is as an awful as the first module of Strange Aeons.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game
where do people find groups like these

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>>49283482
>Wizard is constantly bullied, berated and backstabbed
>The party members sound like OOC dickheads
>The wizard decides to try and cry instead of just casting Cloudkill

>>49283392

I mean, I kind of hope it's good. I like dumb, pulpy science fantasy adventures.

>playing half orc oracle with little boy curse
>party won't let me drink a pint of mead even though i'm 34

Fuck this nonsense

>>49283541
The player is obviously a woman
She is too weak to being as abusive back

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>>49283558
>a woman
>too weak to be abusive back
>implying

Anon, I...

>>49283551
>Complaining about a curse being detrimental to your gameplay

>>49283558
Oh right, I didn't notice that. Still though, it takes a special kind of woman to just take that much shit and not just fucking kill everyone

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>>49283558
>Women aren't spiteful, vindictive, or abusive at all.
Fucking god-damn you don't know the world whatsoever.

>>49283392
>>49283548

I want it to be good, I expect it to be bad. The impression I've gotten so far is that it's mostly cobbled together from bits and pieces salvaged from one module or another, so we really run the risk the the whole thing being a lurching frankenstein's monster with no coherent theme or interesting content.

I hope my paranoia to that effect is proven wrong.

>>49283593
I don't seem to know your world. I know plenty of women who aren't like that.

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>>49283700
>all those cases of women abusing their spouses and children
>all those stories of women being abusive verbally and physically
>All of the obnoxious and in your face feminists/ecofreaks/whateverthefuck else
>My own personal experience of being molested in abathroom by women I trusted
>Hillary Clinton

Oh, you're right anon, women are all perfect innocent angels who can do no wrong and would never have a bad bone in their body.

If a gnome has swallow whole, and becomes huge via beast shape 3, eats someone, and ends the spell, what happens?

>>49283931

He shrinks back to his normal size, making it so he no longer has enough available space. Assuming he isn't horribly suicidal and has functioning self-preservation instincts, he barfs up the target before any damage is done.

>>49283819
>>all those cases of men abusing their spouses and children
>>all those stories of men being abusive verbally and physically
>>All of the obnoxious and in your face men
>>Countless experiences of sexual abuse by men
>>Male politicians
Losers attract losers. Don't sulk about your inability to surround yourself with worthwhile people.

Right now you sound like a male version of those obnoxious, man-hating feminists.

just wondering, Has the Akashic mysteries been added to the trove? and has the Grimoire of lost souls been added to the trove?

>>49283959

>women can't be abusive because men are

ok

Both sexes have the capacity to produce shitty people.

Let's not be those people in this thread.

>>49283994
Both can be abusive. The point is that complaining women are abusive in light of how abusive men are is hilarious and just shows that you're bitter towards women, not that you're fighting the good fight against violence.

>>49284044

That's not even what the fuck he was saying

The conversation was

>Person is being abused
>Person must be a woman because abused people are women
>Women are abusive
>NO HOLY SHIT YOU FEDORA TIPPER MEN ARE ABUSIVE (you)

Jesus fuck

>>49284044
>Ignoring context of conversation this hard just so that you can feel self righteous and project your bullshit viewpoints onto strangers on the internet.

Fucking. Kill. Yourself.

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>>49284077
Conversation went
>Obviously butthurt nerd bearing PTSD against women tries to shit up a thread with reverse-feminist drama
>Point out the irony of sulking about female abuse when men are just as bad if not worse
Don't pretend for a second >>49283593 was posting to make an innocent point.

>>49284219
Chins jiggling with anger are they?

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>>49284244

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>>49284244
The shit this thread falls for

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>>49284244
Here's how it actually went.
>This person has trouble being abused in their game.
>Someone suggests that they should abuse back or stab their gamemembers in the back.
>Anon, they can't do that, they're a woman and women are incapable of being abusive.
>Yes they can, here's examples of women being abusive.
>FUCKING BUTTHURT FAGGOT MEN ARE MORE ABUSIVE.

You're an idiot.

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How are your games going, /pfg/?

>>49284290
Actually, the user didn't imply women are incapable of it, just that the abused person sounded like a woman, because women in tabletops tend to be much shittier at standing up for themselves. While that's somewhat true, I also think men just play tabletops more often and it's just as likely to be a beta male.

At any rate, some fedora took this as an opportunity to act triggered and shit the thread up with a bit of reverse feminism.

>>49284044
Hear hear! Every time these fucks talk about men being abused they raise absurd shit like raising abused men awareness and having mens shelters it makes me sick. Like society should give a damn about these manipulative fucks who abuse their significant others to the point that violence happens on them.

>>49284336
i'm probably going to drop out of mines

everyone's just kind of taking everything i want to do and doing it better.

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>>49284356
>>49284360

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>Running a gestalt game for my 2 man party for the first time, allowing PoW for the first time as well.
>They choose Musket Master Gunslinger/Summoner and Horse Lord Ranger/Two Handed archetype Fighter, respectively.
>mfw
I managed to steer the Gunsummoner toward Warlord or Paladin after I told him that guns don't fit in the timeline of the setting (they were invented during a different campaign, and this one is specifically set before it) and that they are terrible, but the Ranger/Fighter tends to be very stubborn.

>>49284406
Isn't there a male version of Jezebel you should be acting triggered on?

>>49284406
Nice joke but even US law enforcement doesn't teach about females as abusers since it's such an absurd concept, when there is domestic violence they look at who is actually instigating violence and it is always the man even if the woman is causing harm. Quit your anit-feminist bullshit and look at the fucking laws made by people with half a brain and time to look at the issue.

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>>49284356
Okay, I'm going to show you why you're wrong and why you're fucking retarded.

>>49283482
>Person being abused
>>49283541
>Person should abuse back or kill the party
>>49283558
>The person is a woman because they can't abuse back
>>49283593
>Women are capable of being abusive and you're an idiot for thinking otherwise
>>49283700
>But anon, my personal experience with women (that can't be disproven because it my persnl exprince) says otherwise!
>>49283819
>Here's examples of women being abusive and referencing countless stories that you can find fucking anywhere.
>>49283959
>FUCK YOU ANON, YOU'RE A LOSER AND MEN ARE MORE ABUSIVE THAN WOMEN

>Everything else is you being a self-righteous and dilusional cunt while everyone else says you're retarded.

Do you understand now, is your perfect little glass ball of "Teehee I'm right, and you're just mad, you *insert stereotypical expletive*" broken yet?

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>>49284422

>Musket Master Gunslinger/Summoner

But why.

Like, why Summoner?

How can you possibly excuse those combinations in a character?

>>49284422
>Not playing Bard/Summoner
Why not? It's like one of the most broken things I can come up with off the top of my head. Eidolon buffed by a full compliment of spells and fully augmented Bardic Performance. Shred things with an awesome tentacle tiger while your character is the smarmiest motherfucker with a lute.

>>49284449
>People acually believe this.

This is why courts and police need to stop discriminating in favor of women...because then you get stupid shit like this.

>>49284454
>>49283558 's post was a casual expression of likelihood, not impossibility, but fedora-kun nonetheless took the post as an opportunity to derail the thread with obvious baggage. I'm here to discuss Pathfinder, not to feel like a fucking shrink to losers.

>>49284458
He wanted to use an avian Eidolon to fly up and use pitfall spells while he summons minions and shoots as support. I don't think he was taking his MADness into account.

Also this is specifically a dragonslaying campaign and he knows it. Maybe he wanted to hit the dragon's touch AC? Either way he was going to get wrecked by any dragon in midair.

>>49284479
I never would have thought of that. He loves high-Cha characters, but I don't know whether or not he would want to go Bard considering he's playing a Skald in a different campaign.

>>49284517

No, you're here to bait for (you)s

Have another

>>49284517

>Men who get abused by women are losers
>Women who get abused by men are brave survivors

>>49284517
>I'm here to discuss Pathfinder, not derail the thread and be a shrink to you fedora-wearing losers

>>49283959
>>49284044
>>49284244
>>49284356
>>49284449

>Literally shoving your delusional opinion down our throats.

This isn't like real-life where you can just claim "No, I didn't say that, but they said this!"
The posts are fucking there and we can all see them you dumbass.

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>>49284539
>Also this is specifically a dragonslaying campaign and he knows it.

LET ME JOIN HOLY SHIT I NEED THIS.

>>49284336
Setting up to DM my first gestalt game. Should be fun if my players make something that isn't retarded.

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>Hey guys, what's going in the thread right n-

[x] Touch fluffy tail.

>>49284449
The worst are cases where the one who committed, say, rape (roofies and all) turns around after being arrested, goes "no, he was raping ME", and next thing you know the victim's in jail.

>>49284561
It's an in person group, sorry.

>>49284454
wew lad

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>>49284582

>>49284582

Anon please, that never happens.

Every accusation of rape is genuinely accurate, but the incarceration rates are so low because the court system hates women.

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>>49284422
>I'm having a hell of a time getting my GM to take the plunge for gestalt for a game with only 2 PCs, let alone PoW
>these chucklefucks get everything given to them on a platter and pull this shit out in response

Why though. I guess I'm just a salty motherfucker, but why would you waste gestalt on that, especially with PoW sitting right there.

>>49284539
Ah, yeah.

Has he considered something like Druid/Gunslinger if he wants to do the flying on a mount and using the environment to screw over his enemies sort of thing still? Could even go Cleric/Gunslinger and focus on summons to keep things distracted and then shoot them in the face if that's more his style.

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>>49283819
Women that jam their cigarettes into their two year olds to put them out aren't being abusive at all because they're women, obviously

>>49284614
>Every accusation of rape is genuine.
>The court system hates women

Go back to tumblr.

>>49284625
>but why would you waste gestalt on that, especially with PoW sitting right there.

One man's dream campaign is another man's boring 9-5.

>>49284491
>Discriminating in favor of women
Rapists and domestic abusers skating on by because of police ignoring it or requiring a complaining victim only shows how much the courts favor men. For the majority of other crimes this would not happen, like if they went by this logic for murder, murder would not be a crime because they wouldn't have a complaining victim.

>>49284646
Something something women gets 60% less jailtime for the same crimes

Something something a woman can say she was raped and the man will still get jailtime irregardless of any evidence, even if the women was lying, and if she admits she lied the man will be released but has no grounds to sue for any kind of returns even though he now has a criminal record and has probably been abused in prison.

You can literally google this shit and it'll be in the top three results.

Learn 2 research.

>>49284614
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

-Source: I'm a court clerk

>>49284625
>why would you waste gestalt on that, especially with PoW sitting right there.
Inexperience with gestalt, I think.

>>49284632
I suggested Hunter with a Longbow to get the Druid spell list for control along with the capacity to use a vastly better weapon to kill things.

>>49284645
>One man's dream campaign is another man's boring 9-5.
This is the first time anyone in the group has used gestalt or had PoW available. I can understand the poor class choices, but neither of them even looked at PoW even though I really strongly recommended it

>>49284641
You mean the ones who were psychologicaly damaged by living in a society that removes basic human dignities and limits their choices in life while presenting them with "partners" that belittle, sexually objectify, and ignore their emotionaly needs on a daily basis. Yeah they exist and they're doing that because they are women in this society. You know how fucked up a woman has to be to hurt her children? Really fucked up, nature does a fuck ton on their hormones and attachment neurology to deal with shitting screaming babies so the species can survive, it takes a lot of abuse and damage to go against that.

>>49284709
lmao what the fuck am I reading? Get this shit out of /pfg/

>>49278873
Endurance gives you access to Miracle, which is always hilarious.

>>49284677
And the child services and childcare associates always siding with the woman and assuming the man is the bad guy despite any evidence whatsoever otherwise.

>>49284709
>Men are evil for abusing people and children.
>Women are just psychologically damaged and it's their husband's fault for the woman abusing their children.

Jesus fucking christ, what is wrong with you, why are you a bad person, stop being a bad person!

>>49284709
>Yeah they exist and they're doing that because they are women in this society.

And I imagine abusive men just pop up out of nowhere in comparison?

>>49284677
Hey look we have an MRA here, shouldn't you be saying that rapist Brock should be left alone and that men should keep their HIV, HPV, and Herpies spreading foreskins while Doxing random women on twitter?

Gee I fucking love sharing a hobby with sexually undesirable men and getting educated on what women are "really like" when I want to just discuss the fucking game.

>>49284700
>Looks up
>Finally sees that gunslinger isn't in your game
Wow I'm stupid.

On the actually using the things you're actually using, Hunter for the badass companion and spells and shit, pair that with Slayer to pick up the prereq-free "Ranger" style feats as fast as possible. Or even good old Druid/Fighter. Doesn't have to be extremely fancy, but it just has to get the job done.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/

Literally all you need to do is look at this shinanigans...
And I mean actually look into and read it, not just glance over going
>Lol, this is all jus propaganda and lies becuz muh patriarchy
or
>Lol, reddit, you think I'm going there?
Because that just means you're a dumb.

So I'm going to be joining an Iron Gods campaign, is an Investigator a good idea?
Any archetypes?

>>49284730
Yeah it's called daily testosterone spikes and the general damaging effects of high levels of testosterone being in your system. There's a reason men die younger it's cause they have literal neuron killing, blood rate increasing, and sexaul desire (read not love just stick it in regardless if it wants it not) poison being their primary gender hormone. I think women would be just as bad if they had all that shit in them too but that's just biology for you, you have to accept that men can just randomly become sociopaths and forget all human decency when their randomly spiking rage drug courses through their veins.

>>49284709
Fundamentally, we are all victims of both society and the genetic blueprint laid down by our parents'. A broken person is a broken person, regardless of their genitals.

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>>49284645
>>49284700
I know that's probably it, but... I just want to have fun too. It's not too much to ask that I want to play an Magus||Empiricist Investigator in a game that only has 2 PCs, is it?
Or a Warlock Vigilante||Anything, using Jolly's stuff.

>>49284831
see >>49284811
some "blueprints" cause more problems than others.

>>49284858

We are not allowed to have fun, anon. Our place on this Earth is to suffer.

We will always be the ones who discover the Dream Campaign an hour before it closes, or hear about an awesome campaign that recruited from /tg/ when you were working.

>>49284808
Ehh... Actually should be fine. Had to look over the Studied Strike stuff again. Make sure to max your Knowledge (Engineering) and take the Technologist feat.

Just don't make my mistake and bring a witch.

>>49284811
>testosterone turns men into monsters.
Okay, we get it, you like making uninformed statements and still acting high and mighty about them.
Stop already, this is fucking /pfg/, not tumblr where you can spread your misinformation and bigotry.

>>49284808
EMPIRICIST. Fucking Empiricist. Int to everything is a godsend. That is, if you intend to go with investigator, which isn't the worst possible idea. You might want to beg your DM to levy the Infusion tax, and maybe ask about taking deadly agility.

t. Person playing an Empiricist Investigator in Iron Gods and doing pretty okay.

>>49284859
Just as a woman has no choice but to be born into this society, a man has no choice but to be born into this chemical makeup. We are all of us slaves to forces beyond our control.

>>49284927
>Stop already, this is fucking /pfg/, not tumblr where you can spread your misinformation and bigotry.

Anon, he is almost word-for-word quoting a person from the Paizo forums, someone Jessica Price agreed with.

>>49284921
>>49284974
On a side note I could do Unchained Rogue. personally not too sure myself, since I'm a big fan of 3rd level Dex to damage w/ UnchRogue.

>>49282876
How would you balance a gaseous race?

>>49284727
INCLUDING when the woman making the demand to recover full custody has just gotten out of jail for having nearly killed one of the children in the first place.

Not one time has shit like this shown up on the news and NOT been an utterly surreal story.... especially when the story ends with "so she got them all back because children need their mother"

>>49284765
I just love the Hunter. If they ask for a DMPC like they did in our last campaign, it will probably be a Hunter/Vitalist for combat support and healing because I'm the only one in our group that's EVER willing to play a healer, but I'm DMing now and I don't want to see them get killed if I throw two encounters per day at them.

Which of the dozens of rulebooks in the mega do I use to learn this?

Is it Pathfinder [pzo1110e] Core Rulebook (6th Printing) (July 2013) (Lite).pdf?

>>49284796
>can't find anywhere to live
>can't get any scholarships
>in some shitty job where only women are taken as assistants (what the fuck job is that?)
>same company that's apparently full of women want to diversify to include women, straight up tells him that's the reason which rarely if ever happens
>goes to shitty bar that has ladies nights to actually draw women so customers might actually get laid (but not the poster)
Women get extra support here and there but this is basically proof that a lot of this is people blaming gender politics for their own failures.

I'm a paralegal and while women are desired in my position I haven't had any trouble getting work. I certainly didn't have trouble getting scholarships or finding a fucking room to rent.

>>49284980
>It's fine if men rape and be abusive shits it's their nature
We have the abilities to stop this, and we honestly should do it. It's people like you that caused this rape culture in the first place with your "boys will be boys" nonsense.

>>49284999
Trips assure your success.

But in reality, that isn't a terrible idea. The only problem is getting a bit ground to dust by gears, but that's nothing new to a lightly armored frontliner.

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I kind of want to play a gem! Does anyone know any good homebrew rules for gem classes/races?

>>49284858
Sorry Chalka friend. If it was online I might recruit from here, knowing the shortage of games for people around here to be in.

>>49285039
>That reddit link though.

>>49285086
He should have posted r/Redpill while he was at it. Redditors love that MRA shit.

Remember when pfg was about whining about wizards?

>>49285119

tbqh fampai pfg has always been 1/3 complaining about wizards, 1/3 complaining about social justice bullshitters, and 1/3 posting cute traps

>>49285043
If women are not responsible for being broken by these circumstances, then neither are men. Conversely, if men are responsible for these circumstances, then women are as well.

It's as simple as that.

>>49285039
>My success invalidates your failure, you're only failing because of your own faults.
Millenial, go away.

>>49285119
>Wizards are privileged as shit
>Have teleport powers that they can use to rape the shit out of a woman and get out scott free.
>Wizards have fucking aracane magicks flowing through their veins that turn them into rape monsters by 100 years old

>>49285142
But now those are all 1/4ths and there's the new 1/4 of that shitposter whining about PoW

>>49285152
Even with him wording it euphemistically it's obvious the poster made some poor decisions along the way (lol STEM is autistic lol) and has half-assed things. That's assuming it's even true which is questionable as it's quite a march of convenient strawmen.

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You all suck equally and you're all wrong as fuck, now shut the fuck up.

>>49285012
wind

>>49285012
Why are you so obsessed with intangible races?

>>49285062
The Coreid from Bloodforge Infusions are basically gems.

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>>49285070
I'm not exactly hurting for games, I just wish I could convince my GM to use some of this cool stuff. Especially with his boner for "solo campaigns" with questionable alterations. He's getting better since the first try though.

>mfw trying to do RotRL with nothing but a single-classed Destined Bloodrager and a Cleric that was going to spec into Mystic Theurge
>while shifted to medium EXP track instead of fast, for some ungodly reason
>mfw getting brutally assfucked by the Goblin Druid and his firepelt

>>49285152
And yes, to a certain extent other peoples' successes do invalidate your failures.

>>49285218
no they're not they're bipeds.
I read that and thought we'd have psicrystals running around but it's people.

>>49285155
>Wizard privilege is the result of fucking hard work and training
>More wizards are killed at low levels than other classes
>Wizard genital mutilation is socially acceptable.

>>49285204
I wanted to build one. A race whose shtick is being made of insubstantial.

>>49285234

Wizard spell book/component mutilation

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>>49285218
Hmm, I forgot about those, I'd have to do something else for powers, but I'm okay with that. Yeah. I'll take a look at those!

>>49285262
Fuck. I should have used that. It's much better.

>>49285039
>goes to shitty bar that has ladies nights to actually draw women so customers might actually get laid (but not the poster)

Why is it always the shittiest bars in the city that have ladies night? You never see that shit in the places that actually get traffic.

>>49285119
>>49285155
>>49285234

>Wizard's are privileged

Oh my fucking god why does this make so much sense.

I'm instantly reminded of all the times I've seen wizard players bitch and moan like they're getting stabbed in the balls because someone gave the martials more options or nerfed problem spells in their inventory.

Like Jesus Christ you sound like those people who assume building someone up involves tearing you down.

>>49285292
Places that actually get business don't need loss leaders like that

>>49285292

...The point of Ladies Night is to get women (and men seeking women) to come to a bar

It's an advertisement schtick

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>There's no magical item that summons a band to support your Bard Song
I just want to play Steve Harwell

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>49284974
Another downside is that we don't use PoW.

>>49285045
Fuck it, coinflip time
1. Unchained Rogue
2. Investigator

>>49285341
>It's an advertisement schtick

It's an advertisement that places which have healthy business don't need.

Which is why you always see ladies night being done at seedy, grimy hole-in-the-walls. Places that actually have healthy scenes don't need to do gender-based advertisements.

>>49285373
Congratulations. Pick a slashing weapon or rapier, then play a human so you can get Fencing/Slashing Grace at 3. Or play a Str Investigator if you don't mind getting memed on.

>>49285361
>One-man-band of the Many
>Summons a full illusory accompaniment complete with sound and slide whistle that adds to your perform checks.
>Also adds bonuses to your bardic performance when activated.
>Can only be active as such for so many rounds per day.

>>49285400
Nah, I'm a dexfag at heart. Probably gonna grab a rapier since I lack proficiency in the slashing weapons I like/want.

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>>49284336
Lots of breaks between sessions due to life things getting in the way (work, pain, doctors appointments, etc.) I'm not complaining though; Roll20 seems to have been rolling out with some updates every-other week or so and each one seems to have chewed up the damage macros, and since we just started a crawl into a Dwarven settlement to find the cause of a demonic outbreak, shotty damage rolls is going to be a problem.

>>49285456
>dexfag
I often try to think that maybe being a dexfag is a meme and I should build str, but with every martial character I've had, I've considered going the dex route. The call of the dex is too strong.

Except on a bushi/brutal slayer stalker. That is the true way.

>>49284336
Eh, my only complaint is that it's early in the morning for me. But that's what I get for gaming with non college-age people.

>>49285478

Elsbeth is cute! CUTE!

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Not counting Iron Gods (already played), which other Adventure Paths are actually good?

>>49285456
I know exactly how that goes, friend. I had to build a Str Oracle and I could feel my autism burning and telling me to play a Dex character of another class instead.

>>49285379
What.
That's not true at all. Plenty of very decent, sometimes even rather exclusive places have ladies night. Because ALL OF THOSE PLACES ARE BUSINESSES, AND MORE MONEY IS MORE MONEY.

>>49285400
Speaking of Investigator, which would be the better FC option, Half-Elf's +1/4 bonus to inspiration rolls, or Human's adding one extra formula that's at least 1 level below your highest extract level?

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Has anyone checked out the new corruption rules in the Horror Games book?
Spoiler alert: Your character turns into an NPC if he fails 3 will saves

>>49285697
Half Elf's bonus hands down since it makes it even harder to fail skill checks, if you decide to not go for the health. Which would probably be worse, but it's there.

>>49285602

Ladies Night doesn't give money unless the establishment is normally far under capacity and Ladies Night brings enough men to make up for the loss taken from the women

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>>49285718
Paizo does it again!

>>49285728
Eh, our group always start 1st level at max roll on HD, and
14 13 18 10 11 9
ain't a bad starting roll-set. Didn't add a +2 from either race yet.

>>49285718
Hey, welcome to like two weeks ago.

Glad you could join us.

>>49285756
Oh I'm sorry I thought you were still mad about casters being objectively better than martials

>>49285755
>always start 1st level at max roll on HD
That's what you're supposed to do. It isn't a houserule.

>>49285772
Oh, it isn't? Didn't know that.

>>49285292
>Why is it always the shittiest bars in the city that have ladies night?
Because they're bars where men go to get laid, and in order for them to get laid the bar can't be a sausage fest so they have to draw women in.

>>49285765
That's an ongoing thing, anon.

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What reason does a defeatist have to go adventuring, /pfg/?

>>49285859
Define defeatist for me, please?

>>49285871
Someone who goes through life assuming they will fail and thus never gives a genuine effort.

>>49285859
Roped into it by someone who's less of a sadsack than they.

>>49285962
Someone suicidal who thinks they'd even fail at that, so they'll get goblins to do it for them.

How can I overcome DR/good as a druid with natural attacks?

>>49285998
Holy Amulet of Mighty Fists?

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>>49285871
>Define defeatist for me, please?

Based on his picture and description, I'm assuming a character that has had some traumatic event happen in their life (or has constantly happened in their life) which has caused them to believe life is cruel, petty, and probably not worth it.

>>49285962

The thing to remember is that nobody ever truly goes 100% defeatist, there will always be a spark of hope that "this time will be different" which drives them to get up every day.

A defeatist adventurer would be dead inside, someone that thinks they're already not worth the effort to save so, obviously, they might as well throw themselves at the goblins and see what happens. These characters typically gain huge successes in the field yet still continue to be defeatist, moving their goal-posts to "okay, I'm good at killing, but nobody will ever care about me or my accomplishments."

In other words, the defeatist adventurer turns into a classical cynic once they get a waifu/husbando and some admiration in the town square. Now, the defeatist does not think he is worthless, just that things will "probably" not go as planned.

>>49285998
Be level 20 and cast Greater Magic Fang.

Has the Grimoire of Lost Souls and Akashic mysteries been added to the trove yet?

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>>49286045
https://sli.mg/a/kikYv2
Grimoire of depression

>>49286059
Folio of Furries.

Document of Degeneracy.

Codex of Creepy.

>>49284758
"Hey look we have a feminist here, shouldn't you be insisting that women can do no wrong and that all men should be roasted like the pigs they are?"

>>49286307

>wasn't getting any sweet sweet (you)s
>reply to self to spread more shit around

here is the (you) you are so thirsty for now fuck off

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>>49286332
>come back to thread after being gone for 4 hours
>see this ridiculous shit having happened at all

It's a fuckin general

>>49286307
Fuck. Off. You sad fatasses already ruined a good chunk of the thread.

New thread

>>49286385
>>49286385
>>49286385
>>49286385

>>49286373
>thread's autosaging
>complaining about it being ruined

Just hit the new thread, famalam.

Duettist bard, any ideas on how to make a decent familiar combatant? Raccoon with a weapon somehow would be pretty funny if my DM allows it. Cat has 3 natural attacks to benefit from inspire, but natural attacks kind of blow.

Hawk for flying mount? (Small PC)