Battletech General /btg/: Purple Bird Edition

>>49262634
The Free Worlds League Parliament to the Steiner Archon!
>O Archon, Lyran devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of ruler are you, that can't slay a leech locust with your naked arse? The Usurper shits, and your army eats. You will not, you bitch of bitches, make subjects of Free World sons; we've no fear of your army, By land and by space we will spit in thy face, fuck your mother
>You Kuritan scullion, Liao mech-wright, torturer of Tamir, brother-fucker of Tharkad, swineherd of Skye, pig of the Pleiades, rascal of Rasalhague, Circinian cunt, hangman of Kentares, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, granddaughter of the Usurper, and the crick in our prick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own father!
>So the Free Worlds declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Mariks. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!
>-Duncan Marik, with the whole Free Worlds League

Why does /btg/ have such a boner for House Marik and the Free Worlds? >.>

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>>49262848
PURBLE BIRD STRONK

>>49262848
Best place to make your own stories in a campaign because there's so much crazy stuff about all the mini factions and they're not tied up in a super major plotline most of the time. It's the perfect sandbox.

>>49263261
MORE LIKE STINKS.

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Page 8 already? Am I posting in the wrong thread, or is the rest of /btg/ still driving home from work?

>>49264666
Davion trips

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>>49264832

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look at this qt motherfucker and tell me it isn't qt
I dare you

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>>49265175
and tell me this Archer does not look like a heavy, less retarded Mandrill

>>49265221
XTRO Primitives V is out, btw
http://www.mediafire.com/download/yb4d49e12iya8ct/E-CAT35XT015_XTRO_Primitives_V.pdf

>>49262634
Hey guys I've just woken up from a 16 year coma and I'm looking to getting back into Battletech. I used to play Word of Blake, Clan Blood Spirit, and the Circinus Federation and I'm just wondering what I should buy to catch up.

>>49265278
And Nelson succeeds in fucking up yet another mech. It's even in a 3/4 pose too!

>>49265289
Not sure if serious...

>>49265289
>Hey guys I've just woken up from a 16 year coma
Christ

>>49265289
the starter set of a different game.

>>49265289
>I've just woken up from a 16 year coma
it shows. You want to *buy* things instead of pirate them

>>49262848
If we don't, who will?

So, I'm presently GMing a campaign set during the Clan Invasion, mostly using Warchest and Megamek. I'm wondering, just to prevent the occasionally very lopsided scenarios that Warchest turns out with, what might be some good curveballs to toss at the Clan player beyond the usual vehicle/trap/ambush shennanigans?

>>49265289
>Word of Blake

Why do people like them? They're obviously the bad guys. Remember Myndo Waterly? They're like her.

>>49265289
The giant Intro box set with the Atlas on it is a great buy to start you off. Gets you a pile of minis and the current rules.

Get the 4th printing of Total Warfare if you want the everything-and-the-kitchen sink rules. Add Tactical Operations to that if you want to replace the old Maximum Tech book (aka, add another sink to your current one).

Also, Blood Spirit is dead. RIP.

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>>49266293
Because some people like old space wizard C*.

So... new XTRO is out. Not up here yet though.

>>49267169
Posted at the end of last thread, friend.

>>49265289
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!

America got into a war in the Middle East after a terrorist attack, constitutional rights are suspended until further notice, it's public knowledge that torture is a military policy, the minimum wage went up, gays are allowed to get married and serve openly in the military and Michael Jackson is dead.

>>49267169
>>49267191
Or a short hop up-thread.
>>49265278

>>49267169
Literally >>49265278

>>49267191
Oh cool. Thanks! :)

>all that reused vehicle art
REEEEEEEE

>>49267486
They almost never get new vehicle art.

>>49266293
Myndo Waterly was a great woman who did nothing wrong.

So there is an Orion where the SRM is in the arm.

>>49268231
Four, if you count the -V, -VA, and -V-DC.

>>49265175

Can I just say that I think the Trooper is so cute.

>>49265863
Just have faith in TPTB to do the right thing. They'll pay attention to the FWL when the plot needs them to.

>>49266094
I dunno. Give them a smaller, weaker opfor, but also an equally reduced amount of time to kill them in? Or, they need to capture a certain pilot alive, or a certain proportion of the enemy alive.

Or, enemies can voluntarily shut down on the field to make themselves worth only half victory points

>>49266094
>what might be some good curveballs to toss at the Clan player beyond the usual vehicle/trap/ambush shennanigans?
Terrain and force composition that disproportionately plays to IS strength (like say Hunchbacks and Awesomes in a plains-plains mountainous heavy woods map set-up)

>>49270497

>Just have faith in TPTB to do the right thing.

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

>>49266094

Civil unrest or guerilla combat. Those were only sucessful against the Smoke Jags but every Clan had to deal with them to some extent. Also ComStar dickbaggery.

Force selection wise LosTech has been retconned to be widely available prior to the Clan invasion so if you want to go nuts with upgraded designs feel free.

>>49272297

The next mission is an assault mission, so there's going to be an urban map. He's going to be allowed a full binary, so I'm thinking a merc company on the heavier end with a couple Lostech mechs?

>>49272422

Mercs are still kinda screwed for advanced gear until the mid-50s, the advanced tech was fairly widespread but confined to House militaries. It's be unusual (ie, Kell Hound/Wolf Dragoon) but not absolutely impossible.

If it's an urban fight don't even bother with 'Mechs. Just spam infantry, Hetzer/Demolishers and SRM carriers from hiding, not many Clan machines have Active Probes or anti-infantry weapons.

>>49272487

Heh, now that's an idea. It'd probably drive him nuts, and it'd be fun for BA on infantry action.

i would actually play that xtro primitives orion. it's a pocket assault that still manages to outperform a chunk of the tro 3025 actual assaults.

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>>49262634
>>49262670
Based FWL

Gud morning, btg

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>>49275760
OHAYO GOZAIMASU

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>>49265175

>>49276186
I love that white-haired fellow's boxer act. I mean, wearing a robe, undressing when it's time to get serious, an entourage just to carry his crap...

>>49276451
When you're the coordinator of the Combine, you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you say "It will be your great honor" in front of it.

"It will be your great honor to get me a snack."
"It will be your great honor to scrub my Battlemaster with a toothbrush."
"It will be your great honor to sneak into a Robinson March Militia base and spraypaint Kurita Dragons over their stupid shield as a prank"

>>49276451
And that look on his face that says "I just realised I'm not wearing pants... fuck it. I'll own it. Pretend it was intentional."

>>49276610
>not going commando

Why

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>>49276610

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>>49278462

SRM 2 at Thunderbolt TDR-5S (Lyran Alliance); needs 6, rolls 11 : 1 missile(s) hit.

Thunderbolt TDR-5S (Lyran Alliance) takes 2 damage to CT (critical).
23 Armor remaining.
Critical hit on CT. Roll is 12; 3 locations.
CRITICAL HIT on Engine.
CRITICAL HIT on Engine.
CRITICAL HIT on Engine.
*** Thunderbolt TDR-5S (Lyran Alliance) DESTROYED by engine destruction! ***

Guess who got a new Thud!

aesthetically what is your favorite warship and your favorite aerospace fighter?

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>>49279031
The warship would be Kimagure, which looks as if it could be a Traveller ship. Of the ASFs, the Slayer looks best.

>>49278812
Nice shooting and a cheap acquisition, two SRMs are pocket money compared to a Thud.

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I feel like a heel, bullying bugs like this.

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>>49279150
Was a pretty good bit of work for the night. Last night's defence didn't net me much butthis round was pretty amazing. Didn't lose any mechs or pilots (Few mechs in a bad state but I've got enough reserves to keep all 3 lances at decent strength) and netted 40mil in salvage.

Got two Stalkers already so I'm scrapping the new ones for spares. One of the thuds is salvage only, the other Thud and BM I'm keeping.

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>>49280682
fug dis

Is there a planet called Hammerfall in the inner sphere?

>>49281274
Isn't that the name of a shitty metal band?

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>>49281274
Don't think so

Why do you ask?

>>49281850
I was kinda hoping to make an OpFor unit named "Hammerfall Irregulars" for my players to face off against in a tutorial campaign.

>>49282426
Would it be three Hammerhands and a Warhammer?

SSW hasn't been updated since 2014. Is it considered out of date now? Should I use MegaMek Lab instead?

>>49283333
When it stopped being updated it had pretty much all the basics down. So unless you're working with 3090 or 3145, you're fine. Even then, it only gets BV wrong on a few items, rather than not working.

>>49282426
>Irregulars
boring

We need better unit name ideas.

>>49283404
How about the Stormhammers

>>49283378
Hmm okay thanks. Upon checking version numbers it seems that the SSW I have is 4 versions behind. I'll just grab the new SSW and Master files.

The last time I played Megamek it had a bug where it would fire machinegun arrays a number of times per turn equal to the number of machineguns in the array. And it would crash if I tried to use mech mortars. That was years ago though, hopefully it's been fixed. With the new game by Harebrained Studios in the works I got an urge to mess around with Megamek botmatches again.

>>49283480
Already a faction

>>49283793
Just proves that it's a good name

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>>49283810
Damn right, son

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>>49283480
>Stormhammers
>>49283793
>Already a faction

Well duh!

TRO Soviet Civil Wars when

>>49285477
Right after XTRO:Virtual Geographic Corps
I wish they'd do that as an April Fools

>>49278812
>Guess who got a new Thud!

Did that to an Awesome in our last campaign game. Of course, I'm playing Op4 so I don't actually get anything, but I did cripple the PC's biggest 'Mech before the final mission of their contract. :-D

>>49279031

Conqueror and Stingray.

>>49281463

I think he wants to do some kind of Elder Scrolls expy actually.

>>49283404
>>49283480
The Odin sons

pbbt.

battletech is so unrealistic.

Has a war ever puttered out due to media coverage and anti-war sentiment? Has a congress ever pulled war funding out from underneath a factions feet? Have mechwarriors ever been sent out to guard government boondoggles that never get built?

Battletech is dumb.

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>>49286544

Do factions purchase millions of crappy, designed by committee deathtraps cause of government lobbyists?

Do they have problems fielding infantry because nobody is stupid enough to want to sign up for a 4 year stint in the next military quagmire?

Are their ranks filled with jarheaded idiots who light their own farts on fire and post it on youtube?

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>>49286544

>Has a war ever puttered out due to media coverage and anti-war sentiment?
Yes.

>Has a congress ever pulled war funding out from underneath a factions feet?
Yes.

>Have mechwarriors ever been sent out to guard government boondoggles that never get built?
Yes.

>Do factions purchase millions of crappy, designed by committee deathtraps cause of government lobbyists?
Yes.

>Do they have problems fielding infantry because nobody is stupid enough to want to sign up for a 4 year stint in the next military quagmire?
Yes.

>Are their ranks filled with jarheaded idiots who light their own farts on fire and post it on youtube?
Yes.

Battletech is unpopular because it is uncanny valley. People don't like things that hit so close to home when they want to just play with giant robutts.

Well, that and it's one of the most poorly handled IPs in the history of tabletop gaming.

So if I want to get into Battletech, is there a book I could read to get an overview of the history, factions and mechs without having to read page after page on the wiki?

>>49287753
http://www.battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BattleTechUniverseGuide-1.pdf

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Fuckers just don't give up.

>>49286544
>Has a war ever puttered out due to media coverage and anti-war sentiment?
3SW
>Has a congress ever pulled war funding out from underneath a factions feet?
Pretty sure that happened to the Burds several times
>Have mechwarriors ever been sent out to guard government boondoggles that never get built?
That was what the TSM was until GLORIOUS XIN SHENG made it work
>Do factions purchase millions of crappy, designed by committee deathtraps cause of government lobbyists?
You have no fucking idea
>Do they have problems fielding infantry because nobody is stupid enough to want to sign up for a 4 year stint in the next military quagmire?
Infantry rarely goes off-planet, it's mostly used in militias, so no.
>Are their ranks filled with jarheaded idiots who light their own farts on fire and post it on youtube?
This is literally the entire Clans.

>>49288627
That means you've got shit morale in that contract. Better start winning fast.

>>49288906
>This is literally the entire Taurian Defense Force

ftfy

>>49290251
Nah, until le ebin xin sheng idiocy maymay took hold, they were depicted as reasonably professional, about the same as everyone else.
It's certainly right for some of lower-end mercs in the old days, though, crazed rampages on account of fast food and all

I've been trying out refits in Megameklab but there seems to be a bug: I load up a Victor-9B and set the tech level from "introductory" to "standard" to pull the AC/20 and screw on the LB-10X, but the weapons like ERLL and LB-10X never show up in the equipment tab. Instead, I get shit like a rivet gun. What bothers me is that MML used to work like that for me, and now it seems to have shat the bed. Am I just missing something?

>>49290722
...aaand fuck, it turns out that I WAS missing something.

Just on a lark I loaded up another Victor, set the tech level to standard, and changed the year from the default to 3050. And lo and behold, the new shiny guns appeared out of thin air.

Son of a bitch, I don't think I had to set the year before to get at the weapons.

>>49286637
>>49288906
>>49290251
>>49290564
DESU, it sounds more like Katherine "fuck pintrest, I'm for incest" Steiner-Davion's LAAF, more than anything else

Great, now I have to fish this thing out of the river if I'm gonna salvage it for parts.

Reminder kids: don't go in rivers if you've got something wrong with your mech.

Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) must make a piloting skill check while moving from hex 1044 to hex 1043 (entering Depth 1 Water).
Needs 7 [5 (Base piloting skill) + 3 (Gyro damaged) - 1 (entering Depth 1 Water)], rolls 5 : falls.
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) falls 2 level(s) into hex 1043
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) falls on its left side, suffering 8 damage when hitting the water surface and 8 when hitting the ground.
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) takes 5 damage to RL.
22 Armor remaining.
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) takes 3 damage to LA.
1 Armor remaining.
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) takes 5 damage to LA.
Armor destroyed.
8 Internal Structure remaining.
Flashman FLS-7K LA BREACHED
Critical hit on LA. Roll is 7; no effect.
Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) takes 3 damage to CT.
6 Armor remaining.
Possible breach on CT. Roll is 6: no breach.
Flashman FLS-7K LT BREACHED
Flashman FLS-7K RA BREACHED

Pilot of Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) "Mekonnen Durojaiye" must roll 9 to avoid damage; rolls 8 : fails.
Pilot of Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) "Mekonnen Durojaiye" takes 1 damage, killing the pilot (6 total hits).
*** Flashman FLS-7K (Lyran Alliance) DESTROYED by pilot death! ***

>>49290981
plz do not lewd the Archon

>>49291091
We wuz giant robots an shiet.

Is there a way to set the new megamek to show All IS or All Clan like it used to? I'm tired of hunting variants through rules level.

>>49291788
Select all options using ctrl or shift

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>>49291165
Make me, Lyran scum.

So I realised if I ripped off the turret on a Behemoth tank and put a 300 Fusion engine in it then max out the armor, I still have 32t leff for armaments. Should I mount an Arrow IV? If I do, what else should I go for?

I think I can reasonably fit a UAC20, RAC5, 2 tons of ammo for each and all with Case.

>>49292034
I'd say leave the turret, and just improve the armor without maxing it. Maxing armor on 100 ton tanks is iffy, since chances are they'll get critted to death before that.
At the least maybe consider using heavy ferro-fibrous to shave some armor weight off, since heavier vehicles can use it a lot more easily than any mech can.

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>>49292153
There's just so much weight to spare. I loaded up on regular FF and i can fit either of these loadouts.

>>49292306
take the first one. I'm a lover of ballistics.

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Is there some way of adjusting Princessbot's murderosity towards ejected pilots? Because some Independent (Periphery) bastard just gave a full broadside on my ejected 3/4 company second in command, despite having live 'Mechs in the area. And no, I'm not bitter.

In fact, I think the bot has always really had it in for ejected Mechwarriors. Take this psycho I had to cover once as an example. If memory serves, he was a 5/6 and hadn't hit anything in the entire battle. Then I brew up this unlucky sod's ride and this happens. There were two other enemies present, but apparently target selection is something that happens to other people.

>>49292306
You are now absolutely fucked unless a target is in your front arc. And since you're not generating a TMM as a 100 ton tank, and you don't have the advanced motive system that will reduce your chances of getting pillboxed, you're doubly fucked. An angry LB-10 unit will plink you to death from the sides.

>>49265175
10/10, would pilot.

A friend is running a chaos march(?) campaign and has invited me to drag out my old ass ral partha mechs. The chessex hex map he is using is too small to fit my huge bases. Any recommendations for maps besides the few catalyst offers and what I can eBay?

>>49265175
THICK

>>49293670
Heroscape terrain or print your own.

>>49293316
I'd say the bigger problem is the ranges he's working with. You can get away with fixed arcs better when you've got some range to work with, but this thing is overall just mid range, the HGR's long range may as well not exist as it's is simply too wasteful, a standard GR would be better at that point, and turret mounting simply isn't an option.

Like I said, it'd be better using heavy ferro if it's going to keep all that armor, doing that and dropping the AV by a measly 4 points would free up 2.5 tons so it can to keep a turret that can carry 25 tons, enough to mount both the UAC and RAC in the second config, so it can at least better handle the closer ranges its weapons are oriented for.

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>>49288906

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>>49293873

>>49293733
Thank you

>own lance is a Griffin, a Wolverine-K, a Wolverine-R and a Pixie
>enemy force is a pirate lance of two Wasps, a Stinger, plus a Blackjack with a 1/2 pilot
>think "that's a badass pilot but it's a Blackjack, what can he do?"
>what he does is kill my Griffin and Wolverine-K before I've even entered my own weapon range

Son of a bitch. Too bad the Pixie killed him with a LL shot to the head, I would have loved to see him taken prisoner to see if he would have turned.

>>49291091
>Great, now I have to fish this thing out of the river if I'm gonna salvage it for parts.
On the bright side, all you need in BT to deal with it is a hair dryer and an Astech.

IRL it's a bit harder..

Hey guys, I'm just getting into BT, and am on the fence between swearing my allegiance to House Davion or House Liao. Please sell me on them.

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>>49295069
>a hair dryer and an Astech

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>>49295090
I think this pic says it all, and what it says is "Hanse 'The Fox' Davion is your man".

>>49295069
Nah, you just need to put it in a vat of rice and leave it for a day. Capellans will appear and then fix the mech so they can eat around it.

wooooo I just got my hard copies of total warfare, tacops and stratops. Gonna order tech manual and i'm debating getting intersteller ops. Isn't IS ops a two part book?

>>49295270
Kinda. The original IO was split into two books, Interstellar Ops and Campaign Ops. Each book works standalone

>>49295183
I do like autocannons...

>>49295678
I guess i'll be getting them both because my autism commands me to, but generally campaign ops could be considered more useful yeah?

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I shall defend this stockpile of zucchini bread with this lance of Warhammers and Riflemen.
What forces do you bid?

>>49295700
Everyone likes autocannons (well, the big boys' sizes) until the first TAC that nails their ammo bin. Even more fun when you have something like the Victor with three tons of ammo for three times the possibility of a nice, big fireball.

>>49291165
Whattaya gonna do, concentrate weakness at me? I will lewd the archon, I will even the archon for sexual, and there's nothing you lie-rans can do about it

Best BT video games?

>>49297573
Gonna go with original Mechcommander and Mechwarrior 4: Mercs (especially with the MekTek patches).

>>49297573
Mechwarrior 3

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>>49295883
Ares and Poseidon
Good luck

>>49297654
Apparently I am biding two breakdancer mechs

>>49297573

my personal fav was mech 2 mercs

mech 3 was great as well

>>49297573
Mechwarrior 2 Trilogy, Crescent Hawks Inception, MechCommander 1 (2 is ok, but way too hand-holdy)
MW3 might be OK. What I remember was iffy, but the last time I could get it to run without major game-breaking errors, the WTC was still standing.

>>49297573

mech 2 mercs is magical because of the unlimited construction rules.
with the patch that allows dynamic salvage its 100/100

>>49297677
or ya frum dun unda!

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this shit just isn't right familias

>>49297855
The music is magical too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AjrLci_AL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wXxpQKpVOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcT8lu2dS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ma6k-Paf2g

>>49298154
I like the remastered MW2 soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_smBV2YBtk

>>49298153
It's perfectly right for a bug that's getting shot at with 6's and 4's to hit. On what planet do you think it's that smart to get in front of a command heavy at that range in a machine that churns through limbs like a race car burns through spare tires?

>>49298173
MW2 is good atmospheric music. But Mercs is the one that embodies the old "Heavy Metal Mayhem".

>>49298173
>remastered
remixed, anon

>>49297573
MechWarrior 3 and MechCommander

Anyone know why mekhq is only giving me ONE person on the personnel market?

>>49295883

Harmony Gold's legal team.

>>49298743
You win. Flawless Victory.

whats the difference between mechwarrior 3 and a time of war?

>>49299239

One is good. The other is A time of War.

>>49299239
AtoW is better, but still not good unless your tastes are pretty specific. MW3 is awful, especially if you try (well, anything) using all the lifepaths that came out in supplements, which detialed perfectly reasonable professions you might want to try but suffered from bad power creep.

which serves as a better add on to the rules? Interstellar ops or campaign operations?

>>49297337
You know, I rarely run into that problem with Victors. Most of the time it's headshots on my Atlas.

>>49297337
TAC's to a bin are super rare for me. More often somebody tags the gyro or the engine. Then actuators are the most common after that.

I guess that's why I have such good luck with Cruds.

>>49300255
Campaign Operations is for expanding the world, as well as tracking a mercenary unit. IntOps is for when you want more options to play. So if you wanted to be Hanse Davion, you can.

>>49300255
Interstellar ops, because of the new equipments
CampOps is only useful if you want really complex campaigns, otherwise you should use Total Chaos

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If I'm a Deutschaboo are the Lyrans the faction for me?

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Who is the Canada of Battletech?

>>49301025
>Hot blondes in snazzy uniforms
Check
>Famous beer
Check
>Industrial mega complex wank
Check

They just don't have anything resembling a competent military strategic command. Oh wait, I guess that's a check too.

>>49300345
Is total chaos the chaos campaign book?

>>49301205
Fronc Reaches

>>49301205
Rim collection, or possibly the pre-marian Lothian League

>>49301267
Yes.

>>49301261
>49301261
>They just don't have anything resembling a competent military strategic command. Oh wait, I guess that's a check too.

LOL

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>>49301261
btfo

Completely new to BT, but how do I get into Aerotech?

>>49301722
Start with AeroTech 2, don't include warships until you're comfortable with the system, and don't touch the TW books unless you have to.

>>49301722
seconding this, i'm new too.

>>49301722
Use Newtonian rules in space. Memorize the maneuver table. Look up the external ordinance rules and how it bogs down your available thrust.

If you want ground support then it gets a bit more complicated. Also, don't bother tracking fuel.

>>49301837
Sweet, is the AT2 book in the mediafile? I couldn't find it.

>>49301840
Is 3050+ a good era or should I start earlier?

>>49302114

I mean AT2 Revised.

>>49302114
Check in Old Books folder, it should be there

>>49302140
Yeah, I could only find AT2, not revised. Guess I'll go buy it.

What were the differences between AT2 and AT2 Revised anyways? I can't find a changelog anywhere.

>>49301025
>Deutschaboo

you missed out on "wehraboo", anon

also >>>/pol/ pls

I know I'm not blind. All I see in the old books folder is AeroTech 1. Not the anon from before

>>49302617
AT2 is in the other mediafile link.

>>49294599
>it's a Blackjack, what can it do
>implying the Blackjack is shit
It's like a baby Catapult. What you do is bring like 10-14 shots of AC2 then go full Catapult jumping around and MLing shit.

I've got one with my merc force that's fucking murder cause I got a guy with AC2 weapon spec.

>>49297573

>>49297573
MW4 Mercs for DUNCAN FISHER

HELLO SOLARIS FANS

>>49303318
So glad the Kickstarter got him confirmed.

>>49297706
This

>>49303318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XvjcCHjvok

Obligatory.

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>>49298817
>>49298743
Those are licensed, HG-approved minis, they can't do shit. Next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cplUonBPjrs
What is the Dattletech equivalent of the Addams Family.

Yes I'm suggesting the Mamushka being performed in Battlemechs, no I don't give a singles shit about reasons why it can't be done.

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>>49293767
>>49292698
>>49292153
I put the turret back on and went with a less schizophrenic design, the main weapons are pretty well mated range-wise. Ditched the MG for a pair of pulse lasers. Ditched a fair bit of the armor since it's going to be operating alongside heavy mechs so It shouldn't be taking the bulk of the fire and crits on tanks are a bitch.

>>49304985
Now I'm concerned it's too weak damage wise. Perhaps a some UAC5s and LRMS? I just don't know.

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>>49304411
>Next?
Sunrise legal team. HG has been stripped of the rights to everything but airing the original TV show.
Those minis are illegal as fuck.

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Hello people
I am a new-ish BT player, as I know of most of the basic general rules and lore, but only recently started to play the boardgame, thanks to some new people getting interested in my group
Is it possible to turn it into some kind of "campaign" with linked missions and a bit of resource management ala Imperial Assault?
Are there actual rules for it?
Where I can find some nice scenarios/missions?

>>49304985
Better. I'd think a RAC5 would be a better choice, though. Trade the MPLs for SPLs to rape infantry with, and use the freed tonnage to mount a RAC5 and more ammo.

Can someone explain what stupid fucker came up with Clans Blood Spirit, Fire Mandrill, and Ice Hellions in the first place?

>>49305646
>Is it possible to turn it into some kind of "campaign" with linked missions and a bit of resource management ala Imperial Assault?

Yes.

>>49305763
The Kerensky kid.

>>49305763
Nicholas Kerensky.

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>>49304411
Jesus Christ, that model quality is almost as bad as the Toynami Robotech models.

>>49305795
>>49305783
Who wrote their piss-poor backstory though? They were literally
>Failures: The Clans

And what distinguished Hells Horses?

>>49305805
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Field_Manual:_Crusader_Clans

Here are the names of those who caused your pain. Be sure to cleanse them with fire ASAP.

>>49302530
Some people like Germany, not just nazi stuff. kys

>>49305605
When did this happen? I'd rather have sunrise holding the rights than HG.

>>49306256

They're the same thing.

>>49306812
Even the makers of BT had a more complex image of their SPACEGermany than you, and they're flyover/rustbelt scum.

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Not a bad haul i guess, lost my Battlemaster to a TAC ammo explosion though.

>>49305646
current rules are in "campaign operations." old versions can usually be found it books with "mercenary" in the title. The early editions of the RPG also had a system, as did the "tactical handbook" (earlier than and different from "Tactical Operations").

I think the current place to find scenarios/missions is in books with "chaos" in the title. old out of print stuff were called "scenario books" ("chaos march," "explorer corp" and "hot spots" also had mission contracts).

>>49307384
>>49307384
>as did the "tactical handbook" (earlier than and different from "Tactical Operations").
which is to say, new-ish people sometimes get these two titles mixed up, and only one of them (the handbook) has a campaign system.

>>49305605

>Revivever

What the actual fuck? This has to be right up with "Well, the military force that sails is called the navy, therefore the military force that goes into space should be called spacy."

>>49307475
Although the Japanese concept of English might be shaky, I'm guessing it says "35th Revive Ver.", as in version.

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>>49306571
Not that long ago. 2014-ish? IIRC, it was clean-up in preparation of Delta.

Pretty sure it was one of the main catalysts of why both CGL and PGI put pedal to the metal on unseens after years of being scared of HG.

>>49307599
They figured out all that legalese back in 2008. It's why we have the old school 25 Years of Art and Fiction. What tanked that was the secret settlement that nobody but apparently HG and Jordan knew about. So the current thing is "Close but still different enough to get around the settlement."

They're all pretty good too, minus the locust. And not even because it's ugly, but because it looks like a tiny marauder with flippy arms instead of a locust.

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Has this ever been expanded on in any sourcebook, as in which units they were? Because deliberately abandoning House units is such a monumentally dick move that I can easily see Takashi do that.

>>49308381
Thats pretty atrocious behavior

>>49308381

Amphigean and Legion of Vega, probably.

>>49308469

Welcome to HB: HK.

>>49308559
i've only read a littlebit of it. I like the kuritans because they aren't clearly good guys like the Fedsuns were supposed to be but they aren't lame like the caps.

This is pretty awful though.

>>49308381
I'm pretty surprised mercenaries don't have a "shoot kuritans on sight" directive

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>>49308594
>yfw Wolf's Dragoons are working for the Kuritans again

>>49308606
They're of Clan descent, they're supposed to be retarded

>>49308633
"Are they supposed to be retarded?"
"Yes, sir. They're bred that way."

>>49307418
>>49307384
Thanks man, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Bringing another question, it's me or is the Ostwar pretty hot shit?

>>49308559
If memory serves, the Amphigeans were actually described as being treated like mercenaries, not as House troops in the 3025-3050 era, being paid bonuses when they went on ops and having to scrounge their supplies by fair means or foul, etc.

>>49308594
I'm surprised everyone doesn't have a directive like that, considering the idiotic shit they still have in HB HK, like the "execute all POWs" stuff.

>>49308695
>it's me or is the Ostwar pretty hot shit?
It is, but it's from a time when most stuff was pretty hot shit to be honest. I still like it and think it looks sweet, but yeah, it's not a good design. Paddlehands are boss as fuck though.

>>49308695
I guess it depends when you're talking about. When it was a primitive machine too late to the field, a star league upgrade that died so much from engine hits that they were better known for spare parts to keep other Osts running by the 3rd War, a Retrotech corpse made by space tractor manufacturers or a machine 20 years out of date by the time it hit the production lines?

I prefer the last one personally, because I like the Regulans, stupidity and all.

>>49308769
You know what's also cool shit?
That custom Thug, the one with command console, Twin ERLL, and a boatload of SRMs

>>49308790
It's a shame the Regulans had to take the "Jihad stupidity pill" and get addicted. They were fun before.

>>49308815
The Amaris one, I think it's called the Thug Jose or something? Yeah, that's a solid machine and quite interesting to boot.

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>>49290981
Makes me wonder what the Steiner-Davion childhoods were like.

Dumb question, but has the Star League cache stuff been fixed in recent versions of ATB? Specifically, does the employer actually give you a trade-in for the SL 'Mech you find, or is it still simply "fuck it and nab it"? Because whilst it's fun to find an Emperor in an era where you actually dare use it because you can buy stuff like FF armour and endo parts, it's not that fun in the 3030s.

>>49308925

All right. Fine. Post "2 of 2" or the dammed sauce.

>>49309813
Not the poster but it is from Megan is Missing.

>>49310231
Isn't that the one with the on-camera rape and it's all one big fear-mongering campaign against meeting people online?

>>49310259
you got it. It also wasn't a good movie lol

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>>49309813

>>49307475
It's Revive Ver, as in Revive Version. There's a space.

>>49305805
>And what distinguished Hells Horses?
muh warrior spirit, muh combined arms, muh tonks

>>49305805
>And what distinguished Hells Horses?

Tanks and radical mowhawk helmets.

So I didn't see anything about the latest book that came out, the one about clan wolverine, so I made a link to it

https://mega.nz/#!GIZzVKxa!LP58NX2OkZS5Yltz3VCVCSDLKir8fVFr1OFeUu0JIsM

>>49305805

>And what distinguished Hells Horses?

Their willingness to suddenly and enthusiastically suck Bear dick after hating them with every fibre of their being for like 200 years.

Can Light AC's still use specialty ammo? I had a dude tell me no, but that was like their only good use when they came out. I think he was confusing them with HVAC but he was adamant it was Light too.

>>49311740
Yes they can.

>>49311740
sarna says they can still use the three specialized ammo types

>>49308925
Well, they weren't really raised together, so it's entirety possible that she just never got all westermarked'd up regarding tricky Vic and the magical attraction powers of his dick to all princesses in the inner sphere.
Of course, the fact that she's a straight-up psychopath doesn't help

>>49311500
>>49311415
And jump infantry with bear hunter ACs.

>>49312487
>A weapon they only invented one year before the Dominion War
>Distinctive of the clan

Ehhh.

>>49312185
>tricky Vic

I'm still certain that the best way to bring about a true second Star League would have been to have Victor marry Omi Kurita, Isis Marik, Danai Centrella and Kali Liao, and whoever they could have found in the Outworlds Alliance and the Taurian Concordat. After that, you could move to the Clans, since the Green Birds had Marthe Pryde and Samantha Clees and the Care Bears had Aletha Kabrinski.

Truly the power of the harem and tied royal bloodlines has been underrated.

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>>49304101
>I'm Duncan Fisher and i have my head up my ass
Every time

>>49311740
I think he's confusing LACs with LB-X ACs. LB-Xs can only use standard and cluster rounds, but LACs can use the standard and special AC ammo IIRC.

>>49313546
Eh, he like left a generation of kids who all got a legal claim to 3/4 of the IS plus one that can lay claim to half ot it plus a bloodname. I'd say he did well as far as royal studs go.

>>49314517
>Engaging a Cyclops with a Vulcan 2T, not even a Fire Vulcan but a 2T at that range

Whew is right

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Worst case scenario time:

What if the attacks on the NAIS and Kathil shipyards in the 4th Succession War had been successful?
Say Hanse survives but Morgan Hasek-Davion is killed.

How would this affect the timeline?

>>49311545
Good stuff, anon
Thanks!

>>49315862
Instead of rebuilding the McKenna Yards post-war, Panpour would have been expanded instead. NAIS wouldn't have made a ton of difference since the faculty would have been largely intact.

The biggest fuckup would be the Capellan March now being leaderless. Old school FASA would have probably handed that football to Justin and folded all of St Ives into the Capellan March, even if realistically they would have pulled a Hasek out of their ass from somewhere.

>>49291878
>>49297544
that's a awful nice piece of infrastructure you got there, it'd be a shame if I were to volunteer these Lyran trained mechwarriors to guard it

>>49316380
Lyran MechWarriors are some of the best trained ever. It's their operational and strategic leadership that's poor.

All this Lyran talk reminded me to go see what happened to Timbiqui.

>FWL takes it in 3068 and holds it the whole war
>LAAF apparently has it back in 3079 and only makes references to driving off a pirate attack, not retaking the world

What the hell?

>>49318156
Where the FWL is involved there are a lot of gaps in writing. For instance they took Denebola in Operation Guerrero since it's a member of the Border Protectorate, but then in FM:U it's listed as being Lyran again.

Putting together a Davion company. Rolled the following mechs. Probably introtech for now. If not that, depending on the group I'm playing with this weekend, 3060 tech.

Recommendations on lance organisation?
>Victor
>Cyclops
>Orion
>Crusader
>Catapult
>Thunderbolt
>Grasshopper
>Grasshopper
>Rifleman
>Ostsol
>Ostroc
>Assassin

>>49319205
I'd put the victor with the 'hoppers and catapult as a blistering close-assault jumper unit. The rest are a bit of a mess, so I'll think on them some more

>>49318251
There's a lot of weird shit I didn't realize for sure.
>Orloff Grenadiers have been folded into the FWLM as of 3139
>The badass 8th Orloff crushed by mere Capellan raiding parties

Why must the Dark Age take everything I love that's left?

>>49319422
>Why must the Dark Age take everything I love that's left?
Because you made the choice to be a fan of something other than the republic-bears-liao unholy trinity. It's like being a davion fan and playing in the The Human Sphere AU. You knew what you were getting in to

>>49319205
I'd stick the Crud, Thud, Orion, and Cyclops as a heavy/assault 4/6 lance, Hoppers, Cat, and Victor as a 4/6/4 murderlance, then the Rifleman, Osts, and Assassin as a generic lance.

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>>49319422
>>49319555
Forgot my image

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>>49319422
>>The badass 8th Orloff crushed by mere Capellan raiding parties
fucking bullshit

>>49319205
Command Lance
Cyclops (commander)
Orion
Rifleman

Assassin (independent scout)

Jump and stomp lance
Grasshoppersx2
Crusader
Catapult

Trooping demi lance
Thud
Victor

The 5/8 catchup crew
Osts

Basically you can group the Troop demi lance with the jumpers on flat terrain as backup or with the command lance for extra protection. The OST's are reinforcements that you can slip around wherever because they got good direct firepower and move faster than the standard 4/6 of the rest of them. They're about the only things you got that can chase the standard 5/8 mediums you'll probably encouner on the field.

Then just let the Assassin be the Assassin. An overgrown light.

Hey, does anybody have the Field Manual: Free Worlds League pdf? I can't find it. Have the Housebook and the Handbook but no field manual.

>>49317960

Not particularly. It's the Dracs wo have the best academies and churn out the most skilled and trained of the House militaries, followed then by the FWL and Caps. It's just that everyone except the Suns immediately goes HURR DURR for the entire period between their first deployment and when they muster out, while Suns personnel turn into fucking super geniuses.

>>49315862

Tech recovery is still right around the corner and the Suns rebuilt more of that infrastructure than anyone but the FWL. It probably hurts for a little while and Lyran merchant shipping makes a tidy profit before new facilities come on-line in the early to mid-50s. Might delay the appearance of the Fox for a year or two, tops.

>>49314657
Fire Vulcan?

>>49321369
5T. Like the Fire Javelin, you turn it into an ML boat.

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>>49321434
>mfw the Vulcan 5TS
4 MLs, 2 Flamers, 7.5 t armor, 6/9/6, 12 SHS

it's beautiful

>>49321552
Jump 6 + fire 4 MLs, Jump 6 and sink, repeat.

Me gusta.

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>>49321552
It gets even better if you throw a little 3050s tech at it.

>>49321722
>jumping alphas all day ready
aw yeah

>>49319205
>Close Assault/Striker Lance
Victor, Hoppers, Catapult.
Here you've got a very nasty 4/6/4 pack of asskickers.

>Command/Fire Lance
Orion, Cyclops, Rifleman, Thunderbolt.
Solid, well-rounded group of fire-support and generalist designs, two of which are fragile and specialized.

>Scout/Cavalry lance
Osts, ASN, Davion CRD
Honestly, the CRD probably belongs in the "command" lance as well, but the Davion model is at least acceptable in a scout-command role, and stiffens the rest of your explosive fast-boys. f I had the option, I'd probably swap it for a PXH or a Wolverine, though.

>>49322159
>Victor, Hoppers, Catapult

Hanse H. Davion, I have to try one of those lances and see how the enemy sees me hopping.

So I've been reading up on the rules for the first time in a while (Only really play megamek) and I read that firing HGRs requires a PSR if you move and fire.

I want to design the smallest possible HGR mech in the vein of the Hollander. Like the Cricket from men in black, I want something that can run up to a target and then blow itself back in the opposite direction after destroying whatever stands in its way.

>>49323379

There's already a HGR Hollander, the -F7. It's about as light as you can go while still getting anything usable out of the attempt.

It can also kill itself by firing the HGR.

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>>49323379
Took less time and weight than I thought.

>>49319708
Yes, will link soon. Best of the FMs in my opinion. I was surprised how much character they gave the FWLM.

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Tell me about your favored light 'mech
Why do you like it? What makes it special?

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I'm producing an ONTOS line of 1:285 minis, [email protected] if you want to keep up to date

>>49323970
Favorite light? Probably Venom-9KC
3MPL, Much needed DHS, 8/12/8. C3, and punchan hands. Beefier than the original Venom.

Because while a true recon mech has rarely been needed in my games, very mobile strikers that can reliably hit and harass are handy.

It's like an anemic little Wraith.

...Though I've got to say that a combination of CGL suddenly loving to push mixtech/tacops/field-manual-exclusive stuff means that I've not had much of a chance to experiment with the new tech. There might be better toys that are available to me now. Then again, I play Drac, so probably not a whole lot. I'm playing in said era with AtB, but I'm only facing and using what shows up in RATs from FM: 3145 or earlier, at this time.

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>>49324247
I iterated a lot on this one, but now it's a Venom that runs heat neutral, and in close range, deals 18 points. The only thing I use over this is a mixtech variant that swaps the VSPLs with 4 CMPLs.

Not a big fan of lights normally. Utility wise the Hollander since it punches well above its weight and makes a great support filler to a lance of mediums.

Appearance wise though? Probably the Raven.

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>>49323970
The Wolfhound (both the -1 in the 3025ies and the -2 in the Clan era) is probably my favourite, since it's fighty enough and not that fragile. After that, the Panther (great for giving fire support with the PPC and a good driver) and the Locust, especially the all-laser variant.

>>49324247
>>49324320
>...Though I've got to say that a combination of CGL suddenly loving to push mixtech/tacops/field-manual-exclusive stuff means that I've not had much of a chance to experiment with the new tech

Yeah, this is one of those cases where MVSPLs are a no-brainer, really.

>>49323970
Fond of the Valkyrie and Javelin after years of using them. Locust is my favorite bug because gotta go fast on birdlegs.
Like the Arctic Cheetah because it's what the Hammer wanted to be and I enjoy frustrated purple birds.
The Firefly I have a soft spot for after playing MechWarrior 3 for so long.

Wolfhound and Commando are best part of the Lyran years.

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>>49323970

I realize this is probably unsurprising, but the Urbie -AIV. Mainly because the existence of the Mech at all is my (and the Battle Pope's) fault.

Otherwise, the Unseen Vixen and the Kit Fox S among Clan Mechs. Panther and the COM-1B Commando in 3025. I've got a standard Javelin in a 3044-era AtB campaign that has a huge number of kills (34 kills in 14 missions); the performance of the mech has actually surprised and impressed me. The WLF-2 and WLF-3S in advanced-tech play, for obvious reasons, although the WLF-1 Allard variant is absolutely brutal (cERPPC, x3 cERML, 12 DHS, Tcomp). Finally I really enjoy fielding the Ebony, but holy hell does it look like shit.

>>49323970
Hollander. Well constructed 'Mechs aren't nearly as fun as dumb 'Mechs with a gimmick.

>>49323970
Can I nominate one of my own? I don't really do light mechs much (a quick peek in my primary customs folder shows 162 out of 2247 total), but I really like the Kitefin. Not for being Clantech, but because I absolutely adore underwater mechs, despite them being pretty blah on the table.

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>tfw no protmech cockpit to snuggle up in

>>49325165
NEA have you ever done a write up on Star League warships? Thoughts, strength and weaknesses of each, how you'd use them in a squadron?

Was just thinking of it while reading Liberation of Terra sourcebooks.

What would an optimal zeus build be?

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>>49325800
Probably the -7Ga in pic related, which is a 9S that actually has armor and more than a ton of ammo for the LRM. The -8Ga (I iterate names badly, if no one can tell yet) would be an alternate, adding an XLFE so it can have a Gauss, in units not lucky enough to get a Devastator or a Nightstar. Some variants need to exist, because not everyone gets the best toys.

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>>49325800

Depends on what you mean by "optimal".

I like running around in something like this: it loses a little bit of long-range firepower (SNPPC instead of an ERLL, and 1 LRM from the battery) in exchange for more survivability (LFE instead of the more common XLFE) and having a truly mean - and heat-neutral - up-close battery.

Do note that if mixtech is an option, a straight swap of the ERPPC for a cERPPC and maxing out the armor is strictly better, though.

>>49325319

Not to my memory. I will say that that's a pretty huge project. There's a LOT of SLN ship classes, and you'd have to go year-by-year, since their use (or lack thereof) would change as new classes come online.

>>49323970
The Commando. Gotta love them missiles.

>>49325931
That 7Ga is honestly reminds me more of the 5T, right down to the ArtIV.
Main difference is 5T has FF instead of ES, so it still has one ton of LRM ammo but still lacks CASE so it's not necessarily all bad, and the AV bumps only to 224.

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>>49326180
I built it off of the -9S, but yeah, it's a ringer for the -5T. I'd probably drop the Art-IV for, I dunno, TAG or something, but I want my refits to logically replace or sidegrade into canon. Unless it's a one off, or something like my Shogun IIC. Especially my Amaris war one offs.

what changes would you make to intro tech rules if any?

>>49327091
The optional rapid fire autocannon rules are now standard. Optional rapid fire machine guns are now standard. TAC's are now standard. Forceful startup and shutdown are standard. Extreme and LOS range brackets are now standard.

So not a ton really.

>>49327091
floating crits

>>49327091
CASE is baseline on every mech for free, regular CASE becomes CASE II (and the Clans get it at .25 tons), and CASE II stops cascading crits. Which isn't introtech, but what the hell.

>>49327091

Introtech is Clantech. 3025 tech is eliminated entirely.

>>49327602
What about CASE being on a per-ton basis, with CASE II staying the same but CASE costing x% of the ammo in a bin instead of taking up more crits and weight?

>>49327930
Because that means rewriting all of the mechs with CASE, and that's a gigantic pain in the ass. This way, you just have to say CASE is on the mech unless otherwise noted. Unless you want to redo thousands of units.

Not an introtech option, but vehicles get the option of 10 SHS or 5 DHS standard, and vees can have DHS, but any heat not used completely is considered wasted and doesn't reduce heat damage.

>>49327998
That is a major thing to work around, you can't change construction rules without invalidating everything. Doing so would fuck the whole lot.

Call it iCASE. We already have c3i and iNarc.

>>49327091
change movement modifiers to disfavor standing still to shoot
reduce forward arc to one hexside, and flank the rear arc with "rear sides" arcs, so each armor location has its own hexside
change how heat works to make ballistic weapons more competitive
change initiative to somehow incentivize light units, but also disincentivize swarms
add basic campaign rules which disincentivize fighting to the death- like, anything powered down voluntarily gets half repairs for free, anything retreated gets full repairs for free, anything active and on the field at game end can only be fixed with matching salvage

>>49327558
floating crits away from the torso helps heavier mechs more than lighter mechs. would be nice if there were another way to implement that.

>>49324157
Wat

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>>49326072
>Not to my memory. I will say that that's a pretty huge project. There's a LOT of SLN ship classes, and you'd have to go year-by-year, since their use (or lack thereof) would change as new classes come online.

If it's something you'd ever be interested in doing, I'd like to see it. Maybe your own WarShip of the Week type thing?

WarShips are fun after all.

>>49324157
post more models

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>>49323970
I've always been a sucker for the Raven. Sure, it's usually outclassed in a fight, but I like electronic warfare and underdogs.

Last and final battlebump

Remember to update the OP with Primitives V and Betrayal of Ideals. Please remove butte hold and Campaign Ops too

>>49327832

The only tech is clantech with single heat sinks.

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>>49331432
I love the Raven, but the best thing you can do with it is to replace the NARC with another weapon system. Then it becomes a pretty good brawler as well as a scout. Conversely, upping the engine at the cost of the NARC is good too, leaving everything else as-is. But my personal favorite is stripping the NARC, putting JJs on it, and using the rest to split the difference on dual MML launchers. Makes it tactically flexible as all hell and compensates well for the base speed. Basically, a modified 4Lr

>>49325165
Mah nigga. The Urbie-AIV is awesome, and I love my kitbash for it to death.

>>49323970
That's some sexy Hollander fanart, and it's one of my favorite Lights to boot. I have a soft spot for the Locust, as well as the Liao Wasp. For some reason, the Wasp L just flat always kills above its BV for me most times; I feel like it's my lucky 'Mech. Lights and Mediums are my favorite chassis, so it's hard to pick honestly. Raven gets a mention, since at the time I liked how it was a pretty neat approach to a beleaguered faction re-arming and getting with the times. I would really have liked if the Cappies hadn't become the secondary Gausswall faction, but eh. Gimme AIV, TAG, and AC/20s all day for them, honestly. But I digress. I love the Hussar for being a glass cannon, and the Panther for being a Light trooper. Etc etc ad nauseum. In all honestly, pic related is probably my favorite Light chassis. I just wish it had a variant that swapped in SRM4s or a Medium Laser for the TAG as a bodyguard unit. The laserboat version is nice and all, but I mean something less thoroughly re-designed.

Man, now I want to make a custom faction that can only manufacture Lights and Mediums, but is capable of designing new chassis and not forced to just fart out bugs and trios. Maybe it's because they have limited resources? I dunno, do I really need a reason? BATTLETECH.

>>49333711
>Man, now I want to make a custom faction that can only manufacture Lights and Mediums, but is capable of designing new chassis and not forced to just fart out bugs and trios
I think that in a universe where the periphery states didn't join up with the capellans, that would be a way that I could easily see the MoC going in the 60s; new designs, but only in the weight classes that they already rely on

>>49262670
This is glorious, can I get a source? Or at least the inspiration?

>>49333821
MoC is Thud central though.

>>49333932
The source was a bunch of anons last thread, .
And it's basically a battletech-ified version of this infamous letter, the Reply Of the Zaprorozhian Cossacks. The OP image is also related.
Here's the wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

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>>49333932
Basically the Turks got BTFO and asked the Ottomans to surrender. On the battlefield the Ottomans gathered around and had a hearty chuckle while writing that.

>>49334058
that's actually their neighbors, the taurian concordat.

>>49334087
you mean the cossacks, not the ottomans. the ottomans sent the original note the cossacks replied to.

>>49334087
>Basically the Turks got BTFO and asked the Ottomans to surrender. On the battlefield the Ottomans gathered around and had a hearty chuckle while writing that.
you're just slightly confused. Ottomans ARE the turks. it's the COSSACKS who were asked to surrender and told the Ottomans to eat shit

>>49334110

Eh, they all look alike anyway.

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>>49333821
>didn't join up with the capellans, that would be a way that I could easily see the MoC going in the 60s
Hm. The trouble is, they'd still be the MoC. Good for fapping, not for actually playing/belonging to/liking. But yeah, probably.

>>49334422

Better than being Mary Sues, NPCs in two flavors of yellow, Nazis, or completely forgotten about.

>>49334422
My favorites stories of the MoC will always be the ones where the blakists took over and burned a ton of it to the ground. The one where they turned Aris Sung into a double agent and then killed him was just icing on that cake.

Not that I don't like the old Amazonian Thug Magistrixes from Periphery 1, but after all the 3060's Ebon wank, it was cathartic to see the old space wizards show them how cybernetics were really done.

>>49334491

The Ebon Magistrate was such fucking bullshit too.

"Oh yeah, in addition to the Magistracy being the best at whoring, medicine, and cybernetics they're even better than WoB ROM at intel and covert ops!"

Fuck you, Kit. Fuck you.

>>49334470
But anon, they ARE Mary Sues. They also became yellow-flavored.

New thread?