Drop a Dalek into the 40k universe. How long does it take for

More Tzeentch's favored I think.

>>49261346
Really?

>>49261292
Reworking this question: How much time would pass after it became said demon prince, before it self destructed due to no longer being a pure Dalek?

>>49261602
And then it gets reborn again, because the Chaos Gods are dicks like that.

>>49261292
Never get that far. The instant it gets a mutation it'll detonate out of hatred at itself for deviation from the perfect Dalek form.

>>49261292
Depends, do Daleks have a soul in the 40K sense of the word?

>>49261723
According to Rusty, they don't. But then again, the 40k sense of the word and the link between a creature and the Warp is often linked to emotional intensity, which the Daleks have by the Tardisload.

>>49261292
Daleks have no emotions bar hate. The Dalek is going to be aligned more to Khorne or Khaine.

That said: I always thought that the Newcrons were pretty much Time War Time Lords. The Necrons have that funky high crest coller thing on their heads like the traditional "Time Lord" cape. They use "bigger on the inside" technology and screw around with physics as a pass time. They fought a war with biologically engineered killing machines and between them and their enemies they unleashed true cosmic horrors on the galaxy. The Necrons unleashed the C'tan and the Old Ones unleashed (as a side effect) Chaos and such.

Between the Time Lords and Davros they unleashed the Nightmare Child, The Skaro Degradations and the army of meanwhiles, lead by the Could've Been King, and the Horde of Travesties.

>>49261796
But this raises the question of which Chaos God would take notice of said soul.

Also considering this gave me the mental image of a Khornate Sontaran.

>>49261920
Khorne rejoices just as much at the blood spilled by Imperials as he does by his Champions. If a kill is made in rage and anger, it's his.

>>49261920
Oh, the Sontarans would start Blood Cults at the drop of a helmet. The Rutans would probably fit Tzeentch quite well.

>>49261918
Malalice sometimes includes blind hatred. The Daleks are a bit too outwardly-centred for Slaanesh and not really angry enough for Khorne, just deep loathing with an inferiority complex.

>>49261918
I also think the Orks would like it, even if it did not like them.

>>49261972
Christ, Looted Daleks, orksterminatin' the galaxy.

>>49261292

Depends on which world it landed on.

>>49261993
When you think of it... Ork really is just a meaty green Dalek.

Live for war, simple life goals, autistic-genius when it comes to machines of war, and an ork keeps a savage racial purity based on Orky and Unorky.

>>49261970
>Oh, the Sontarans would start Blood Cults at the drop of a helmet.
I think the only reason they wouldn't end up as frothing, blood gargling nutters like everyone else who follows Khorne would be because they are bred specifically for HONOURABLE warfare.

>>49262112
The outlook's a bit different. The Daleks looked at the sky and went 'IT'S GOT TO GO', the Orks looked up and went 'Let's punch it inna face!'

Aren't they more of a Khorne thing with all the exterminate and wipe out all life?

>>49262140
They'd probably lock up the forthing, blood-gargling nutters and use them like Death Company.

>>49262171
Khorne probably doesn't want everyone dead, because then there'd be no-one to shed blood

>>49262154
What if a Dalek decided that the Ork method of propagation was beneficial to the Dalek War Effort?

>>49262177
That's if said nutters aren't summarily executed by the application of if several thousand volts into their probic vents

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>>49262112
Yeah but Daleks are pretty much fueled by pure hatred. Orks don't really have that hate, they're just in it for fun. I can't image that they'd get on well.

>>49261918
Not to mention that Trazyn is like a slight more violent Doctor.

>>49262274
>"YOUR METHODS ARE CRUDE, PRI-MI-TIVE AND IN-EF-FIC-IENT"
>"OH YEAH, WELL...YOUZE A GIT!"

How would the AdMech regard Mondasian Cybermen?

>>49262358
On the one hand:
>[Happy techpriest noises]
But on the other:
>[TECH HERESEY!]
I guess you'd get a rift in the Admech. Again.

>>49262274
>Not to mention that Trazyn is like a slight more violent Doctor.

Do you know what that motherfucker does to people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4xm9NHNUf8

Would the Emperor get along with the Earth Reptiles, or would they be on the Thunder Warrior hitlist?

>>49261292
Forever. Because Malal doesn't actually exist, and hasn't existed since the motherfucking 80's you snowflaking newfag.

>>49262686
Wouldn't that make them a neckbearded nostalgiafag instead?

>>49262762
No because 99% of people who mention Malal weren't even alive when he was canon. It's primarily all edgelords who want to be even more edgy than normal Chaos is.

>>49262686
t. Assblasted Autistic

>>49262813
How does Malal make Chaos any more edgy?

>>49263018
Because Malal worshippers are edgy fringe lunatics even for Chaos, which by definition is as edgy as possible.

>>49261972
>Cor, dat tin kan's ded killy! Not much in da way of choppa or dakka, but itz roight zzappy! Look, you can see da skellingtons!

>>49263142
At least they dont worship the chaos god of atheism.

>>49261602
>>49261630
So a warpstuff covered Dalek going on mass killing sprees before blowing itself up, only to repeat itself later

>>49262274
So the Orcs are Toclafane then?

>>49263465
Eh, Toclafane are childish, Orks are ladz.

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I don't know about later series', but the Daleks are an emblem of frailty. They're not immortal, indestructible, beasts; they're a metaphor for destructive isolationist, nazi-esque, philosophies.

Even in their later introductions, when a lot of their limitations were scaled back, they're still the same easily overpowered by friendship and egalitarianism lot.

Why even have these shitty threads? 40k is deliberately exaggerated. If games workshop thought their was a fair argument, they'd reboot the setting with more exaggerated fluff.
>would x beat y from 40k
No.

>>49263829
>easily overpowered by friendship and egalitarianism
So in other words, in 40k they'd have no real vulnerabilities?

>>49262527
>people

>>49262140
That honourable thing came from the new series, whose treatment of the Sontarans can only be described in terms of rape. Classic Sontarans were ruthless and quite prepared to engage in deceit and fight enemies on uneven terms (they didn't need any copper expander bullshit to be impregnable, their armour did the trick-even stopping Galifreian weapons), they just lacked somewhat in creativity as they were all clones.

>>49263829
I'd say they're a mix of both. At their height, the Daleks not only took on a civilization that was ridiculously high up on the Kardashev scale, but almost won, and almost every time need to be beaten via timey-wimey shit.
At the same time however, they are fragile, deformed mutants, trapped in a tin can, filled with loathing for everything around them out of a highly-developed sense of inferiority.

>>49263851
No his point was pansies could overpower them due to the ridiculous design flaws in their armour -the fliptop lid, inability to handles stairs and single easily obscured eye, combined with their tendency to self destruct at the slightest inconvenience.

>>49263996
They've had shields and flight for a while now.

>>49264056
Only really since the cancerous new series. They had levitation discs in the period of seventh doctor, but if anything they were more of a joke by then.

>>49263958

Their bodies are fragile, but the tin cans are pretty solid.

Honestly, any Daleks dropped into 40k would be without a doubt the most dangerous motherfuckers int he setting as soon as they hit the board. Not because they can't be killed, but because they will take one look around and say "Well, this all has to go".

And unlike the other powers in 40k, the Daleks have both the ability to build superweapons that can destroy the galaxy AND the willingness to use them. Their time travel tech isn't great compared to a Tardis, but its enough for them to participate in the Time War and not get owned, which is more than enough time travel to outmaneuver any 40k faction.

If the Daleks can set up shop and not get blitzed to death, it would take them a dangerously short amount of time to build something that will wipe out the entire 40k galaxy. The only question is whether or not they deem Chaos enough of a threat that the decide to blink the Immaterium out of existence and erase the Chaos Gods before they tackle their more conventional physical foes.
Horrifyingly, blowing up the Warp is actually something they can do based on their previous work.

>>49261292
About 20 minutes. Then the Dalek kills him for not being Dalek enough. Then "EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT" back to its own universe.

Followed by the next War in Heaven when he and his buddies come screaming out of a new Eye of Terror centered on Terra.

>>49261918
Four-way warp war between the (Great) Old Ones, the Time Lords, the Necrontyr and the Daleks?

The time vortex being in the deep warp would make sense

>>49261918
>I always thought that the Newcrons were pretty much Time War Time Lords

Ehhhhhhh.

Necrons didn't invent the concept of Physics. Like, the actual laws of the universe, not just the study thereof.

>>49262223
I thought they did at one point. The Asylum of the Daleks had the Ponds turning into Daleks slowly due to microscopic Dalek-germs transforming anyone on the planet.

>>49264263
The problem with Daleks is that while they are as hostile, super-weapon hungry, and about as xenophobic and hate-filled as the average Inquisitor or Space Marine, they keep what is basically their soul stones behind metal plating in a universe where weaponry is judged by its ability to demolish metal plating
They might do well against the Eldar, and maybe IG if its only flashlight Guardsmen

>>49264417

I don't think either of the 40k factions have enough time travel to really keep up with the Who races. I know that the Necrons have a little time travel tech, but only one single Necron Lord has anything approaching reliable time travel, and he doesn't tell anyone else he has it. I doubt he would be enough to combat the sort of factions that can send entire planets through time.

Both Time Lords and Daleks have a nasty habit of supergeniuses. We are shown multiple times where a single Time Lord or Dalek, left to their own devices on a world, concocts some superweapon based on whatever happens to be around that threatens all life on at least that planet, occasionally more. Usually doing it in plain sight in such a way that the locals buy into it right up until the moment it turns around and destroys them.

Shit, the Daleks put a bomb the size of a fist into an android (who, by the way, was sophisticated enough to mimic a human to the point that it passed medical examinations) simply so they could threaten to blow up the entire Earth with it as a means of distracting the Doctor long enough to get away if their plan fell through. That's their plan B superweapon in that episode.

>>49264569
Timer War era have extremely good force fields

>The Draconians' interstellar empire was a monarchy, led by the Emperor and his court of nobles. (PROSE: Doctor Who and the Space War) Former Emperors, known as the Deathless Emperors, were kept in orbit of Draconia.

Remind you of anyone

>>49264569

Don't forget Daleks have shields post time war. Ones that melt bullets right out of the air, and let 4 Daleks scoot through an entire warehouse of Cybermen shooting them with lasers and taking 0 goddamn damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9aSZsJrkM4

There certainly are futureguns that can hurt them, but its clearly not exactly easy. Bolters are not going to do it, but Meltaguns should. Plasma... probably does it.

>>49264809
And their metal armour was made of a super reactive unobtainium material, so they never really needed the shields to with, all they needed was to put a catch on the top of their suits.

>>49264809
Well thinking about it, fucking flashlights would probably work on them considering how their lasers, not bullets
And lets not even discuss things like Terminators or Tyranids in general

Anything that is energy-based weaponry in this situation would probably work on Daleks. And Psykers would probably fuck em up real bad too, considering how whatever soul they have is totally steeped in 'fuck son calm down' anger levels

Daleks would be like really angry Tau but more technologically advanced

>>49264660
>>49264809
We are often told that concentrated gunfire (from humble ballistic weapons no less) is capable of wearing through sections of shield, though the armour behind is still a factor, thus "aim for the eyestalks". Only once did this actually work, and it was by a handful of desperate civilians, though he Cult of Skaro soaked up fire from far greater numbers of soldiers and cybermen, so it might just have been that they were an elite unit with better equipment than the Emperor's thrown together Daleks.

>>49265029
>fucking flashlights would probably work on them considering how their lasers, not bullets
Video clearly shows them working on energy weapons.

>Psykers would probably fuck em up real bad too, considering how whatever soul they have is totally steeped in 'fuck son calm down' anger levels
This is viable though.

>>49261292
>Mutates once and kills itself
>And it would never become a demon prince because only humans can do that. Not once did an inhuman ascend. No inhumans besides orkz that serve Khorne even worship chaos.

Stupid thread is stupid.

>>49263958
>they are fragile,
>filled with loathing for everything around them
>highly-developed sense of inferiority
Swap inferiority for superiority and they're not dissimilar from humans in that setting, and they're pretty powerful on the whole.

>>49264263
Yeah, when they really get innovative Dalek tech is no joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rY9rkJckrg

>>49265400
>Saruthi
>Chaos Eldar
>Loxatl
>Yu'Vath
>Laer

>>49261292
Drop a Dalek into the 40k universe. How long does it take for it to come up with a halfway decent, if horrifying plan to kill demons?

>>49266283
Oooh, I don't know, let's say, until lunchtime?

>>49266283

The Daleks have manufactured psychic weapons before. During the time war they used a kind of psychic reflection bomb that doubled all of the thoughts in your head, which then doubled again and again and so on exponentially until you literally thought yourself to death as every synapse in your brain overclocked and tore apart. Noteably, the effects of this bomb carried over between regenerations, so if used on a timelord after regenerating they would immediately succumb to the effects of the bomb again, forcing a time lord to burn through all of their lives in less than an hour of being paralyzed by their own thoughts and agonizing death.

It was one of the many doomsday weapons that The Time Lords unmade with time travel, only for their sabotage to get unmade, only for them to re-sabotage it, etc in an endless loop such that it simultaneously killed whole fleets and was never once used.

Time war was bananas.

Anyway, I'm curious what effect that would have if used in the warp. It would either tear the warp a new asshole, or result in INFINITY DEMONS. And I'm not sure which.

>>49266570
Both.Neither.

>>49261796
Aren't they clones?

In 40k aren't clones soulless?

>>49264657
>I don't think either of the 40k factions have enough time travel to really keep up with the Who races

lol they have plenty just send 2000 fully equipped guard regiments in 1000 ships into the warp and have the techpreists disengage the geller field drives. Some of them are bound to end up at the right time.

>>49268893

Yeah, see, that's not enough. Not to compete with a guy who can park his time machine on top of the Emperor in the past such that it manifests around him trapping him inside of an indestructible box made out of the fabric of spacetime itself, and then hit the 'vent' button and dump him into the void between dimensions where nothing, not time or matter or even Chaos, exists or has meaning.

We are talking time machines that have, on no less than TWO occasions, been used to replace the universe after it ceased to exist by creating a new big bang and restoring the timeline to its most recent save file in the time machines database.

"A couple of ships of guardsmen will probably end up in the right century" doesn't cut it against factions that understand how King Crimson works.

>>49261967
Then Daleks would become instant daemon princes, considering that varying levels of hate is pretty much all they feel.

>>49265400

Daleks WERE human at one point, and that's why the salt-shaker is terrifying, because they have to potential to turn you into one as well.

>>49261292
Please someone do a quest about this.

What would happen if the Tau managed to reverse engineer a Dalek body/suit?

>>49267168
Convert all local warp energy into a flood of demons in the material, temporarily or permanently carving out that section of the warp.

>>49261292
Daleks don't bow. Any blessing chaos gives it will be entirely without the Dalek's consent.

>>49272439
Nor would they want it really since such blessings would be a corruption of what they see as a superior form.

>>49271760
Well more then likely just material advances, possibly making their tanks and walkers a bit lighter or sturdier. Dalek on board weaponry would probably not be useful to them, dalek lasers, though incredibly deadly, aren't the most accurate, that or daleks are terrible shots, take your pick. The squishy flesh center might offer some scientific advancements in just how far mutations can go. If the dalek body in question has deflection shields, or emergency temporal shift generators those would probably be the most valuable pieces to take away from it.

>>49271760
The most adorable battlesuit in history. Imagine his knees sticking out the top as he wedges himself into the casing to pilot it around.

>>49266570
>Time war was bananas.
It's a miracle that time itself didn't fucking collapse, with the sort of shit they were throwing at each other.

Then again, by the end you literally had the "Never-Was King and his army of Never-Existed", so it probably WAS falling apart.

The Ood would get daemon-possessed at the drop of a hat.

>>49262527
Then there was the time he used the Moon landing to make humans murder the creepy Silence dudes

>>49261292
Destruction, Khorne.

>>49261292
Who can get up a flight of wooden stairs faster?

A terminator or a dalek?

>>49273812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZLVwwY2WE

You mean this scene?

>>49271760
judging by recent Who, the retro engineered Dalek tech would be infected with Dalek nano-viruse immune system bullshittery that would prevent any Tau using it from saying anything other than EX-TER-MIN-ATE and then convert them into Daleks

>>49273851
That's the one

>>49273851
>>49273893
Speaking of the Silence, whould they make a good villan for a Dark Heresy campaign?

>>49274317
who?

>>49274317
With some tweaks, I think so, yes

>>49274774
What stats and traits do you think a Silence woudl have?

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>>49271405
Yer thinking Cybermen.

The Daleks are the result of Davros accelerating the evolution of his (yes, humanoid) people into what he believed to be their ultimate final form... A, small, super-intelligent, jelly-squid, full of nothing but hate, which wouldn't threaten anything outside of its reach, if it wasn't mounted inside a magic salt-shaker tank that they've, apparently, been constantly improving upon.

Granted, this was on Skaros, which had been in perpetual civil war for thousands of years.

Still can't imagine how the Daleks came to be a threat against the fucking Time Lords, unless there was some internal sabotage going on. Which would be par for the course, as that is how the Sontarans managed to land on Gallifrey - the Time Lords have always been their own worst enemy.

>>49274828
No one knows - you forget them as soon as you look away from the character sheet.

I think there's some intresting similarities between the human's tendency to put supersoldiers in metal boxes and the dalek's salt shakers.
Considering OP's question it comes down to dalek time travelling or not. If yes they abuse it and cheese a victory. If not, they probably can become a faction and a threat but not exterminate everything.

What I really want to see is daleks copying dreadnought and biilding oversized salt shakers to put damaged regular size salt shakers in.

>>49275050
Time Lords were arrogant as fuck.

They probably looked at Skaros and its inhabitants and saw it as a global Somalia.

And promptly gave it no more thought.

Then the super genius Davros comes along, unearths some of the old pre-war tech makes or some other way aquires a time machine and once you have a time machine it's very difficult for you to un-have it.

Goes to the furthest reaches of Space and Time, beyond where any self respecting Lord of Gallifrey would go, to perfect his work then attacked a thousand places across a thousand times before the Time Lords could get their shit together.

What would the Dalek statline be? I'm thinking that they'd be a small, elite army, more so than the Grey Knights. Each one would be incredibly tough (T5, 2 wounds, 2+ armour, 5++?) and have a pretty good gun (24", S6, AP1, Instant Death?) but they'd be Slow and Purposeful, be terrible in close combat and obviously have a problem with hordes (though they do have a heavy weapon variant if I remember correctly).

>>49275050
>The Daleks are the result of Davros accelerating the evolution of his (yes, humanoid) people into what he believed to be their ultimate final form...

I was under the assumption that the Daleks mutated into what they were now due to the enormous amounts of radiation and chemicals they unleashed during their wars. Am I mistaken, or did the nuWho reboot retcon things?

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Aren't these things beaten by stairs?

>>49277167
EL-EV-ATE!

>>49275980
>What I really want to see is daleks copying dreadnought and biilding oversized salt shakers to put damaged regular size salt shakers in.
That would be ridiculous and I love it.

>>49277167

First Dalek we ever see literally flies up a flight of stairs.

>>49277138
I THINK it was a bit of both. I couldn't be wrong, due to poorly remembered lore, but in the end the Kelads were unable to live on their own homeworld due to the radiation and chemicals unleashed during their wars, step forward Davros and his twisted vision. Davros himself is a mutated Kelad, born with the horrific mutations that were running rampent through their species. His Daleks were the only lifeforms capable of surviving the hell that had become of the planet Skaro.

>>49277242
Only in the new series. The original Daleks never really encountered the issue bar in a couple of stories, while in Remembrance the Daleks first demonstrate their ability to hover.

>>49277167
Daleks simply blow up anything they can't get into.

So, you're sitting at home, minding your own business, when the TARDIS shows up in the room, and The Doctor pops out to offer you a position as one of his companions. You only get one shot, and you've got to leave right away. If you accept, you get about 10 minutes to gather anything you're taking with you, and you get to pick the next destination.

Which regeneration of The Doctor is it?
Do you accept?
If so, what do you take with you?
And where (and when) do you visit first?

>>49277222
There is actually an ordo of the Inquisition that deals with time travel, the Ordo Chronos.

>>49261292
Wow, so superior. It has laser weapons!
>mfw everyone else also has laser weapons, occasional shields, and crazy weaponry way better than it.

Jesus man, it's literally just an angry armed servitor with a building lasgun, and not even a good lasgun at that.

>>49277346
Are you sure you're replying to the right anon, anon?

>>49277313
Twelfth Doctor.... Shut up I like him.
Fuck yes.
Phone (Doctor has done useful things with phones in the past)
Either the city of Bubastis or Xochicalco at their apex.

>>49277167
Aren't space marines beaten by stairs too?

>>49277167

There's an old joke that goes something like:

>A Dalek's target is on the third story of a building. How does the Dalek get up the stairs?

>Trick question. Daleks don't need stairs, they just demolish the building until the target is on the ground floor.

>>49277286

There are several origins for the Daleks, because the Time Lords (and the Doctor) tried to erase them several times from history, but they kept popping back up.
In their original incarnation, they resulted from mutations caused by nuclear fallout during the Kaled civil war. They went on to wipe out everything in the galaxy, so the Doctor went in and undid that so they never happened.
Then they just kept happening, later with Davros appearing, and discovering he could force mutations in the unstable Kaled genome to produce Daleks.

Getting rid of them was like trying to get that bubble of air out from under wallpaper. You push it down and it pops back up somewhere else.

>>49277346

You are correct, even if they almost never show up in the lore, but its important to note that the Ordo Chronos dealing with time travel is about as effective as the FBI trying to deal with aliens.

The Ordo Chronos exists to seek out and deal with those that are out of their own time, either willingly or unwillingly. But they also have NO ability to actually travel in time themselves, or really have any special way of detecting that it has happened other than diligent investigation.
They want people from the future so that they can know what is going to happen, and they want people from the past who are far enough to know important details about the Horus Heresy/archeotech/anything else they can get their hands on. There is a lot of study into how time displacement in the warp functions in the hope that they can one day do it intentionally, with the grand goal of going back and saving the emperor if possible, but there is no reason to believe they will ever accomplish that goal. They can't intentionally go back 10 days, much less 10,000 years.

If the Daleks or the Time Lords start abusing their time travel tech, the Ordo Chronos's best contribution to the conversation would be to convince the High Lords of Terra that Time Travel is in play based on the evidence, so most people probably won't know what signs to look for. However, that knowledge is of minimal benefit because they can't actually do anything about it other than say "you need to throw every single space marine in the galaxy at this problem right now, and hope you can stop them/take away their time machines before any of them get a chance to time travel. Because if you don't we have already lost."

>>49263829
>Why even have these shitty threads?
Well in this case, I'm writing a Doctor Who/40k Crossover and I'm subtly stealing ideas.

>>49277351

> Laser weapons

Dalek beam weapons have multiple firing modes. They use a big fuckoff laser for blowing up buildings and shit, but their 'anti-person' beam actually just takes every atom in your body and teleport-swaps it with a randomly selected other atom in your body. It turns your insides into a slurry such that you have nothing resembling organs anymore. This effect can be carried by an electrical charge, so if it hits something, anything that would be shocked by contact with it gets scrambled too.

A direct hit with this weapon can even permanently kill timelords, and even a glancing hit does so much internal damage that it forces a regeneration.

But based on how it works, a direct hit from this weapon would insta-kill any Ork, regardless of size or toughness, and if it can hit a space marine then that space marine not only dies, but all of the special organs and cyberware implanted into them is permanently destroyed beyond any hope of salvage. The space marines only hope is that their armor is enough to soak the shot, but Cyberman bodies are entirely mechanical except for the brain, and hitting a Cyberman in the chest still killed it dead. So I'm honestly not sure that any kind of traditional armor CAN help you against this.

>>49278485

In that case, something to consider:

From a Dalek point of view, Khorne would have made a good Dalek if not for his inexcuseable flaw: he does not hate enough.

Khorne hates, and relishes in combat. But he stays on his throne instead of taking up his sword, because he knows doing so would risk destroying the universe entirely.

The Daleks would consider him weak because he lets that stop him. The Daleks would gladly risk the destruction of the universe if it meant the death of all non-Dalek forms of life in the process. Khorne fights for the blood and the death. Daleks fight because they want everything else to not being around anymore, and killing them makes them happen. If they had a button they could press to simply wipe the universe clean of life, they would press it without hesitation. And more than once they have attempted to build that button.

>>49266570
Daleks would make a really good addition to 40k.

>>49262527
This was a weirdly dark turn for the doctor, being in suspended animation forever? Being trapped in a collapsing galaxy FOREVER... dick move doctor

>>49272935
>Never-Was King and his army of Never-Existed
>Nightmare child

I want more expanded universe shit on these, they sound cool as fuck, wish we had a little more info

>>49278816
It's constantly illustrated that the doctor struggles with his own inner darkness. 10th Doctor goes power mad near the end of his run, and it takes someone committing suicide to preserve the timeline to make him realize he went too far.

>>49277091
WS-5
BS-6
S-2
T-5
W-1
I-3
A-1
LD-10
SV 2+/ 3++

Hatred (everything)
Fleet
They shall know no fear


Laser beam thing - S9 AP2 Assault 2
Plunger - Kills any non vehicle unit on a 3+

>>49278880

Anon actually got the name wrong.

Its the Could-have-been King and his army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres.

>>49278964
Them, the horde of traversties as well, I know the skaaro degredations were just daleks torturing and mutating and experimenting on daleks to make them nastier and more fucked up

>>49278617
What would they think of Tzeentch? They clearly don't give any shits about Nurgle and Slaanesh,

>>49279180

I can't think of a reason they would hold Tzeentch in any special regard. Tzeentch has all of this information and power, but ultimately doesn't accomplish much with it because he sabotages his own plans for reasons.

They wouldn't consider him anything other than another enemy to be destroyed. The only reason they ever might have to think of him as something else would be if they were convinced that they could exploit him and his knowledge somehow to accomplish their goals much much quicker.

Daleks make convoluted plans, but not out of hope or ambition. They make plans to kill as many people as possible, to purge the universe of all inferior forms of life. To a Dalek, Tzeentch is nothing more an a powerful psychic parasite, just as inferior before innate Dalek superiority as the orks are.

They wouldn't fear him. They didn't even fear the time lords during the time war, just hated them. The only being they have ever feared was The Doctor, because somehow he keeps bating them and they can't figure out a way to stop him. The arrival of the doctor is almost always followed by all of their plans being torn asunder, and he has 'exterminated' their entire race down tot he last Dalek a bunch of times... all without ever firing a shot.
So they kind of freak out when they see the Doctor, but they won't give a shit about the Chaos gods. The Chaos Gods, after all, can only genocide the entire Dalek race a single time.

>>49264263
Daleks would basically play, in the long game, as glass cannons. They would spread out as much as possible and start working on separate kill-the-universe projects in secret. They would only deploy armies to seize vulnerable worlds or as a means of distracting powerful forces from one of their plots.

Now most of their plans would fail and most important battles would be lost BUT they would have enough labyrinthine contingency plans to avoid absolute death. Foil one plot and another pops up in the next system over. They would be like Tzeetch version of orks in their propagation.

Daleks wouldn't be the thing you'd see Spess Marines fighting, they'd be more of an Inquisition threat. They are more Bond villain than mongolian hoard. They would be a lesser threat in the eyes of most commanders but a major one to the Inquisition.

>>49272574
>dalek lasers, though incredibly deadly, aren't the most accurate, that or daleks are terrible shots, take your pick
I'd actually go with the second bit. Daleks seem to be pretty prideful and disconnected from reality. I could see them being really bad at practising things they aren't naturally talented at. Considering they are weird little squid guys who move via life-support system they probably wouldn't be too great at things like coordination or spacial intelligence. I could see most of them giving up pretty on physical tasks pretty quick and assuming their superior technology and Dalek genes will bring victory.

>>49279920
So this egotism has let to them loosing any ability to aim? Seriously, a Dalek couldn't hit a barn door with a banana from INSIDE the barn.

>>49262686
Was Malal even in 40k at all, ever? The only place I actually remember him being mentioned was in the original WHFRP core book, which gave the chaos gods as Malal, Nurgle and Khorne. Pretty sure he had been removed from the pantheon before chaos was introduced to 40k.

>>49280194
There's Malice, who is Malal but copyright-friendly

>>49262619
Are they Human?
>No
They're exterminated with as much prejudice as possible

>>49280194
No. GW lost the rights to Malal in 1987, chaos was first introduced as a 40k faction in 1988 (Adeptus Titanicus and Slaves to Darkness).

>>49280340
Pretty sure they never specified what 'Malice' was in 40k. You had the 'Sons of Malice' chaos marines in the 3rd ed chaos codex, but it wasn't even clear if Malice was their god, their founder, their leader, the general principle of cruelty or just a cool word they used for their name.

>>49280053
>>49279920
One eye - no concept of depth perception.

>>49280053
>So this egotism has let to them loosing any ability to aim?
egoism gets in the way of them ever getting any better at aiming because they don't want to admit there is something they naturally suck at.

>>49262154
>The Daleks looked at the sky and went 'IT'S GOT TO GO

...Hitchhiker's Guide reference? The Krickiters? Good show, sir.

>>49278816
The Doctor is not a nice person and never has been. He can just act that way sometimes.

>>49277091

Pretty much completely identical to Necron Destroyers, honestly.

>>49278667
The issue with the Daleks in 40K is that they have overwhelming numbers, casual mastery of time travel, FTL speeds that are good enough for meaningful interGALACTIC travel, and weapons far in excess of anything the Imperium can muster. Their plots and plans also often involve the extermination of the entire universe or even the entire MULTIVERSE. Galaxies are a trivial matter to them.

If you have a functioning Dalek Empire in 40K then the Dalek win against everything that isn't Chaos in a matter of weeks, or less. The Imperium certainly stands no chance at all.

The only way it'd be fair for the rest of the factions is if there were only, like, 100 Daleks at most.

This is not to say that 100 daleks could necessarily take on a squadron of Space Marines in one-on-one; I am not doubting the power of the Space Marine weapons and armor. Rather, it's that the daleks WOULDN'T get involved in fights. The first time Space Marines showed up and their doorstep they'd cut and run immediately. But they'd have to be stopped because whatever they were planning would likely involve wiping out at least an entire quadrant of the galaxy, if not the whole damn thing in one go.

>>49280053
Keep in mind that the thing we most often see them shooting at is the Doctor, who has been implied in a number of episodes to a) have massively greater spacial-temporal reasoning than a human, and b) might actually be able to personally slow down time around himself.

(RE: The fan scene in "The End of the World" with Nine)

>>49275078
underated post
>>49277435
I haven't really heard anyone say they hate the twelfth doctor more along the lines of the shitty writing hes had to deal with just like tennant.

>>49265633
I thought the Void Ship was Time Lord tech that the Cult of Skaro had hijacked; or was that just the Genesis Ark?

>>49265152
Looking into the mind of a Dalek has happened a few times, IIRC, and it never goes well. There's not really anything to exploit, their entire psyche and personality is squarely focused on killing everything that isn't a Dalek.

>>49283149
Just the Genesis Ark.

>>49265029
>And Psykers would probably fuck em up real bad too, considering how whatever soul they have is totally steeped in 'fuck son calm down' anger levels

I pity the psyker that survives contact with a Dalek mind.

>>49283251
Fuck me, they really don't kid around, then, do they?

Kind of plays into how I've come to think of the Daleks - the masters of space in the same way that the Time Lords are the masters of time. Their tech is actually essentially equal to the Time Lords' own tech, it's just advanced down a different path that makes them the master of the material rather than the temporal.

>>49273851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxh4uxLkco

How about this?

>>49283324
They've been sinking all their research points into 'kill things' and 'prevent us from being killed so we can kill more things'.

>>49283213
Daleks can be conditioned to hate anything if the person poking about in the Dalek's head really, truly hates that something enough.

Remember that time the Doctor tried to teach a Dalek how to not be a genocidal maniac but it latched onto the Doctor's seething hatred for the Daleks instead and proceeded to go on a rampage killing every Dalek it could find?

Daleks are physically incapable of being anything other than genocidal maniacs, but it is possible to direct their genocidal mania at a target if you really, truly hate it enough. I imagine there are more than a few people in the Imperium with an intense enough hatred for the xeno, the heretic and the witch to sway a Dalek if they got direct access to one's mind.

>>49283849
An Inquisitorial Dalek would be every radical inquisitor's dream.

>>49262154
How about the krikkiters then?

>>49283908
EX-TER-MIN-ATUS
EX-TER-MIN-ATUS

>>49283908
Until they're shot in the face for being corrupt. Really, they'd see heresy everywhere, and the purge'n times would start.

>>49263142
But what if I want to play a *teleports behind u* Mcgee in a already edgy as hell setting?

>>49284159
Warp Spiders?

>>49284223
But Warp Spiders aren't nearly as edgy enough.

>>49284067
So literally a tin can version of Inquisitor Feldor or whatever the name of the guy who made his throne into a tank or whatever in Text To Speech was?

>>49283849
Yeah, but that was the Doctor.

If you try to read his mind and he lets you you normally die in the most horrible way possible. Just because he can do it, doesn't mean that anybody in the Imperium can.

>>49284051
>Inquisitor Dalek, I understand he disagreed with you, but I don't see why we need to kill his whole planet over i-*zap*

HER-ESY
HER-ESY

>>49286920
>>49284368
>>49284051
>>49283908
DRAWFAGS I COMMAND THEE, I DEMAND THIS

>>49265029
>Daleks v. Nids

The PUR-IT-Y OF. THE. DALEKS. WILL. BE. PRE-SERVED.

>>49280754

Yeah, this is something the Time Lords used against them many times. Deliberately screwing with their origins to introduce technical flaws that could later be exploited, knowing the Daleks are too insane to admit to having flaws.

>>49280676
But this guy's right: they can't hit moving targets very well because they have only one eye. It doesn't prevent them from curbstomping other civilizations left and right, though. After all, it just makes them angrier.

>>49279690

I don't know. Daleks love to play sneaky, yeah, but they also love building massive Dalek armies and fielding them to carry out the extermination of lesser races.

>>49287816
Am i bumping a 10 page thread? yes. But i must ask, how do daleks percieve lesser races? In the sense of, do they take their power's, chaos, etc iinto account? Would they look at the humans and go "not right now, little too much for us"

Also, i want this. >>49287017

The Doctor had numerous opportunities to wipe out the Daleks, but held back out of retard pangs of conscience. 40k offers no bangs of conscience.

Dalek materializes and gets in a fight with the Lamenters. A bunch of Lamenters die. Dalek dies.

>>49264236
>cancerous new series
I'm taking this bait hard. Don't you talk about muh 9 and 10

Dalek's wouldn't go for any god because the Gods are not Daleks.

>>49262358
Probably the same way they'd regard the Tau if they started cyborgifying themselves:

We do it better and less tech-heretically.

How do you run a Doctor Who campaign, /tg/?

>>49290395
You don't desu. At least nothing related to the Doctor

>>49290395
You roll for bullshit technobabble and plot armour.

>>49290395
You make sure the Doctor is nowhere near it.

There's other time-travel capable species, and maybe even other Time Lords out there, so making your own party of time/space travellers would be the best option.

>>49290095
>how do daleks percieve lesser races?
EX-TER-MIN-ATE

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>>49277091
>>49278930
>>49278930
Based on what I read here:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek
and here:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalekanium
and here:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Gunstick
they'd prolly be more like
WS/BS 2; S/T 4; W 1; I 2; A 1; Ld 10; Sv 3+, 4++

Jet Pack Infantry, Hatred, ATSKNF, FNP

Disintegrator Gun: S6, AP 2, Assault 1, Instant Death

This is based on a variety of factors. First off, dalek accuracy isn't really commented on in any of the wiki articles that I could find, but, in the show, they seem to have great difficulty hitting moving targets, probably due to only having one eye and low-grade targeting systems.

The S/T is based off of how 'ard the dalek mutant itself seems to be, in combination with the fact that it's essentially a cyborg. 1 wound, because I seriously doubt an average dalek can feasibly take more punishment than a space marine.

I 2 because they're slow as shit in every iteration on the show. Even in tense combat scenarios, Daleks seem to take things slow; calmly observing the battlefield and making adjustments accordingly.

Sv 3+, 4++, because dalekanium (the stuff their armor is made of) is described on the wiki as being reliable against small arms, but vulnerable to 20th century anti-tank weaponry. The force field is tricky, but I based it off of a rosarius, as in 40k fluff, that's reliable enough that Goge Vandire willingly allowed the SoB to shoot at him with no concern that he was in danger.

The gun profile is based off the fact that a dalek gunstick is a pseudo-plasma gun that apparently re-arranges organs or something like that. It's anti-armor capabilities are not really detailed, however, so I made it AP 2 instead of 1.

Jet Pack Infantry because they can hover around and FNP due to the fact that they can regenerate.

Everyone keeps going on about how terrifying daleks are, but I feel that the cybermen are much more terrifying .

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>>49291167

>>49291262
Ha

But I dunno,

If my options are being killed or being stuffed in a metal suit through a very painful procedure to become a soulless husk I choose death.

>>49291281
Is this an epic burn for ants?

>>49291281
The Cybermen in that episode were pussies, but there are later iterations that get beefed up enough to potentially go toe to toe with Daleks - the ones that 11 went up against in Nightmare in Silver will upgrade themselves to counter weaponry used against them unless you kill them all at once

>>49291281
They had to make up for that
>'Daleks have no concept of elegance'
>'This is obvious'
remark earlier

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>>49291281
It's a shame they have to show the Daleks so often. If they'd left the Daleks alone after the first two series (this is the second series right) they might actually be respectable SciFi aliens.

They're still a fave for me but literally every dalek episode after this one was absolute trash the only one being half worth while was the WW2 one not for its contents but simply to make this coolest of all Dalek designs a thing.

>>49291458
Blame Terry Nation's estate.

>>49291167
Well Daleks do just outright kill you, while Cyberman make your body into a tool while doing torture on it during the conversion.

>>49287119
I can see the tyrannids absorbing dalek genetics and it going either horribly wrong - with the Dalifexes turning on other tyrannids and needing to be internally destroyed - or horribly *right*, with the Dalifex genetic sequence spreading throughout a Hive Fleet and resulting in a species nearly as smart as the Daleks, but now with far more robust physical capabilities.

Either way, a Dalifex would be bad news.

>>49291458

The WW2 is where daleks actually outwit the doctor

>>49291458
Much as it made the Ironside a thing, it also made Fattybumbatty Dalek Sentai Skarroranger a thing.

>>49275050
>>49276073

Plot happened. It involved a Time Lord civil war, the Doctor accidentally allowing the Daleks to have access to the Time Lord library, and a really weird host of events from the 8th Doctor novel series that left the Time Lords AFK for a while.

>>49293158
Oops, forgot to add: Once the Daleks got temporal shielding, time traveling backwards to stop them wouldn't work, and the Time Lords were thus forced to go into a Time War right after their civil war.

>>49291281
>Rusty and Kroton will never team up and become buddy cops

>>49290095

They seem to decide on a case-by-case basis whether a civilization is weak and can be safely steamrolled into dust, or if a race poses a threat, and should be destroyed carefully via some doomsday plan.

>>49290095
>But i must ask, how do daleks percieve lesser races?
INFERIOR. EXTERMINATE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysvNOmDMVvk&t=1m41s

Case in point.

>>49277313
Tom Baker, a bag of oranges, 10 years into the future to see if orks ever get buffed, then we find out that GW is run by aliens who can only survive if they consume a specific combination of nutrients as found in the frustrated tears of overweight neckbeards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLbwOGT8eM