What is the most powerful fleet, and why is it the Irken Empire?

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From Tel Fyr to Hew's Bane to Akavir, and back again before the Maromer could jerk off enough snakes to breed a new cruise ship.

All Flags Navy > All other fleets ever

>>49246358
>Flys through a star because they cant be fucked to go around
A pretty good feat of strength.

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>>49246358

Sure it is.

>>49246548
This.

>>49246592
One ship isn't a fleet, no matter how hueg and manly.

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>>49246358

Okay..

>>49246728
They're also able to toss engines onto planets and smash them into eachother.


Or was that another species?
Was it specifically the Planet Jackers?

>>49246753

The Jackers were a separate species not part of the Empire. Their shtick was stealing planets and throwing them into their dying sun as kindling. Zim referenced some kind of treat they had with the Irkens where the Jackers were to leave planets marked for invasion alone. They pointed out Earth wasn't on that list.

>>49246777
Was it that episode, in which Zim and Dib battled with planets?

I feel like that was a different episode.

>>49246797
No, the episode in which Zim and Dib battled with planets was the episode in which Zim and Dib battled with planets. The episode with the planet jackers was the episode with the planet jackers.

I'm also now realizing that the Amarr Empire's ships from Eve are basically blatant reskins of Irken ships.

>>49246819
But were those planet-sized-engines Irken technology?

If so, that's a pretty yuge level of power.

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>>49246797

That was a different episode. Zim traveled to Mars and discovered the Martians worked themselves to death turning the entire planet into a single-pilot space ship. Dib's contact at NASA (a janitor) reveals the former inhabitants of Mercury did the same to their own planet.

>>49246852
Dammit, that's right.

Damn you, ancient aliens.

SPACE MEAT
But we cant afford space meat and instead use used napkins

>>49246888
Really though, meat would be obscenely expensive in space.

Irken Empire vs. combined might of every 40k faction

Who wins?

>>49246927

The answer to this shit is always 40k because everything in 40k exists in absolutely retarded extremes.

>>49246977
Yeah but Zim is Cartoonishly Dark Extreme instead of Grimdark Extreme, they're both pretty retarded.

>>49247019

Nothing in Zim quite exists in the same numbers as in 40k.

It'd probably be a spirited fight. Mostly likely involve the Irken enslaving the Tau as is their want. But the nasties in 40k (including the Imperium) win by sheer numbers.

>>49247019
But it does bring to question how the Irkens would respond to the warp.

Could they even give a shit?

>>49247041
They're probably too stupid to be affected, and their main mind is implied to be an AI of sorts, so it depends on if that got corrupted or not.

>>49247037
Maybe just Irkens vs. Orkz, then. Whoever wins, that would be a fun one to watch.

> That moment when you realize that Zim is the voice in Tzeentch's head driving him to act as he does.

>>49247076
Most Irkens are very intelligent, see Tak as an example. Their robots are usually hyper-competent as well, gir is an exception.

>>49247130
Overall though they're extremely hedonistic and myopic, with no real interest in anything besides domination.

>>49247170
What else could they possibly be, with their impossible level of military strength?

>>49246839
The planet engines were from some ancient species. They only did it on Mars, and another nearby planet. I forget which. Then they all died.

>>49246358

The answer is always The Culture. Because they both have retarded numbers and retarded power levels.

The "super amazing space anarcho-communist" plot armour doesn't hurt either

>>49246927
Zim/Dib would accidentelly corporealize a chaos god to the material plane, obliterate whatever fleet was there, and then be banished to the moose realm or some such other lol so randum deus ex machina.

>I said the irken empire
Same scenario. The whole universe was hinged upon people dealing with shit that was already vastly outside their realm of influence and accidentally this and that.

>>49247130
>most irkens are intelligent
Tak was literally an exception. Even the tallest are borderline idiots. They're just not as stupid as Zim. They were given rank depending on their height. Irkens are as smart/dumb as the joke needs them to be.

>>49247611
Fair point here, if any universe leaves itself open to almighty horrors from beyond space and time, it's the Zim universe.

>>49247574
>and another nearby planet
Mercury.

>>49247619

Irkens, at least their Invader corps, have very high Int but comically low Wis. Even Tak wasn't immune to this.

Even though most irkens are stupid, but they have such extreme technology capacity that they send single solitary invader units to conquer whole planets. Not scout the planets, conquer them, with one irken and a robot. They don't reproduce naturally either but are grown in artificial wombs and permanently connected with high tech backpacks that allow for high mobility and various tool usage instantly on hand from birth. Regardless of how good their ships are, which have been shown to be able to plow through stars, planets, and even their single person ships have been able to take down larger vessels, and how dumb they are, their superior technology would allow them to win against nearly all opponents unless those opponents had a similar or higher tech level.

BRB, putting together irken invasion themed d20 game


Protip: you can't beat them unless your specific invader is buggernuts stupid

>>49247739
Incredibly high int but comically low wis is a perfect way to describe them, Zim can build a fucking time machine but has so little wisdom on how to use it that ends up fucking himself over every time. Which is basically the plot of every episode involving his world domination schemes, Irkens as a race seem to be similar in this regard but not as extreme as zim.

Remember why Zim was outcasted?

He used one of the Irken's own technologies, the front line battlemech, to rampage across THEIR OWN PLANET, their weapons are so obscenely overpowered, that they themselves are not immediately able to defeat them, even in the hands of an absolute moron like Zim.

It is also worth noting that most Irken piloting seems to be dependent on visual navigation, whenever possible.

They must be absurdly good pilots.

>>49247905

That's because the collective Irken war machine is built on the backs of enslaved races. Kind of cancels out some their problems when you consider them on a larger scale.

Zim has low Wis, even by Irken standards. The only reason he's even been as successful as he has been is because he's invaded the one race with an even lower collective Wisdom score than the Irkens. Frankly, Zim probably would have succeeded if he wasn't so caught up in his personal vendettas.

>>49247840
> Irken invaders are more effective than Genestealers.

Shit.

>>49248025
there is no "probably", he would have definitely succeeded, and quickly

>>49248053
Pride and vindication is his ultimate downfall even more so then is incompetency now that you mention, several times has he thrown his plans a monkey wrench just because he wants to succeed the way he envisions it or because he has a personal vendetta against someone. Hell he's even SAVED the planet several times because he won't allow anyone to destroy or conquer the planet he's been assigned to take over, even if it's his own kind doing so as was the case with tak.

>>49248030
And it's implied not all of them go the "infiltrate and gather information" route when they first get to there target, some just smack down with superior military might if they think the planet is weak enough.

If I remember right one of the primary reason the Irkens are the way they are is because their entire race is controlled by a hyper advanced A.I. that sends subliminal thoughts or outright takes control of individuals through their P.A.K.s.

Zims' is malfunction so he doesn't get anything from it. He is basically cut off from the Irken God yet still trying to serve as best as he can and does amazing considering his crippling defect.

>>49248197
Those packs are amazing, really.

How would you stat one, if you were going to add it to say.... a pathfinder or D&D setting?

>>49248238

The pak or whatever it's called is basically just the agency you get from being a player character.

>>49246358
You know, its almost funny how well Invader Zim fits into 40k. They are stupidly, stupidly grimdark, while still maintaining a militaristic attitude.

How could we work this into a actually functional army and part of the 40k universe, like the Covenant Fandex?

>>49248238
Via loading a gun, and shoving it in your mouth before pulling the trigger several times.

>>49248275
What the fuck, man?
I'm just asking a question.

>>49248197
So it;s kind of like cosmic dorf fortress is what you're saying...

>Irkist is seeking snack
>Irkist is interrupted by Troatian Spleebar
>Irkist in tantrum!
>Mecha is destroyed!
>City is destroyed!
>Planet is now desolate!

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>>49248275

>>49248265

Difficult to say, given how little we actually know of their military outside the Invaders. All we can really tell is the actual subjugation is pretty destructive. When they invaded the rat people planet, they just used ships to glass the world (presumably after loading up on slaves) so they could build a food court or some shit on it.

>>49248297
Play a fucking system that actually supports it, rather then trying to chain everything to that abortion of a system, you dense sack of shit.

>>49248238
Let's see if I can remember all the functions they have...
Spider-like mobility, climbing, and speed, welding, storage space, life support systems (irkens literally die without them), information relay into spinal column (Irkens are given a lot of basic knowledge from birth thanks to the paks), laser weapons, and a grappling hook...am I forgetting anything?

>>49248318

Parking structure planet.

>>49248357

You know, for the most part I think a lot of the show was cringey, obnoxious lolrandom bullshit. But damn did it have some clever moments when it wanted to.

>>49248238
Make it some kind of psionic arachnid parasite. Give it movment buffs and... a psionic blast? PAKs have some other shit but I can't remember.

A GM can use it to take control of the PC whenever.

>>49248357
WOOOOO PARKING STRUCTURE PLANET

>>49248378

I liked the art style for everything involving the Irken and other alien races. Not so much for humanity since it tended to overplay filth and squalor.

>>49248318
> Ironically, the galaxy resembles pre-space age mankind the more the Irken control.
> Entire planets are now arcades, parking lots, or fast food restaurants.

>>49248427
Yeah, it seems that most everything that isn't military related for the irkens is built around basic fast-service, creature comforts, and entertainment but on a galactic scale.

>>49248422
> Not so much for humanity since it tended to overplay filth and squalor.

That's because Vasquez has a very, very dim view of humanity.

>>49248318
In that case, a Mini-dex like the Scions could work. Perhaps after Zim conquers earth and the Tallest arrive, they decide to pack him in with all of the defective Irkens they can find, and send him on a one way trip to the deadliest galaxy they can find, which just so happens to be the 40k galaxy.

>>49248502
> The tyranids aren't invading.
> They're running.
> From some shit Zim caused.

>>49247739
>>49247905

>Wis

Oi, wots dis fink?

I think it may also be worth noting that the irkens have massive levels of dedication to their cause. They have a huge sense of duty.


heh.... duty.

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>>49248496

Still loved the aliens, though, alongside some stuff like Professor Membrane and his technology.

Pic related. I remember thinking these guys looked awesome as a kid. Shame the fanbase was so obsessively shitty though.

>>49248545
>> The tyranids aren't invading.
>> They're running.
>> From some shit Zim caused.

>They're running
>From Zim

>>49248656
> Tzeentch embodies randomness, mental instability, and change.
> This was not always so, for once he could have been known as a God of Order.
> Perhaps even by a different name.
> Then he peered into the mind of Zim.

>>49248343
You need to chill

>>49248556
Wow, you know, Irken are basically Space Gobbos
>Lazier thans Orcs
>All a buncha weedy gits
>Utterly insane, need constant supervision not to fuck up
>Crafty and cunning, but not smart; they have the slave races for new tech.
>Literally born from tubes

>>49248496
Vasquez is just salty that he didn't hire a better lawyer to check his contract

>>49248656

To be fair, some of the shit the Imperium does fits right in with the Vasquez view on humanity. Hell, it's even easy to imagine a Commissar done in his artstyle.

Try and imagine it.

Bet you pictured the hat covering his eyes, didn't you?

>>49248609

>I think it may also be worth noting that the irkens have massive levels of dedication to their cause.

Again, that comes back to their low Wis and the apparent fact they're bred for warfare. The Tallest frequently bully and harass their underlings; even drawing their Invaders getting mauled to death at the fucking mission briefing. They all just kind of go along with it because they're short-sighted morons.

Ironically Zim is one of the closest things you'll find to a renegade in the Irken ranks.

>>49248631
>Shame the fanbase was so obsessively shitty though.

The show's fansbase is directly responsible for the unbearably awful Myspace culture which helped make /b/ such a fucking shithole.

>>49248719
>Zim infilrates a Schola ran by the Imperiun
>Claims that he's just from another planet that full of the people like him
>Due to his outstand loyalty, ability to overcome any challenge, and effectively lead the troops under his command(at the cost of their lives), he is made Commissar Zim

Fund it

>>49248780

To be fair, during the episode on the bootcamp planet, Zim was shown to be very skilled at rationing the lives of his soldiers to overcome obstacles in the pursuit of his end goal.

>>49248742

The closest thing to a renegade is probably the living table servant who told the Tallest to shove it and was summarily duct-taped to a frigate with its autopilot locked to navigate into a star.

>>49248911
Such a fundamentally huge waste of resources over something so incredibly petty, yeah that sounds about right for Irkens.

>>49249003
it sends a message...
into the sun

>>49249003

IIRC, they wound up owing that table slave a massive gambling debt because they forced him to bet on Zim surviving a training course.

Holy shit, are the Irkens just the polar opposite of the Federation of TNG/DS9?

>>49249109
Pretty much.

Take every meme about the Imperium being so bloody, wasteful and self centered and crank it up past elev- fifteen.

Crank it past 15.

>>49249109
The Irkens literally kill millions, and burn their entire planet's surface to ash.

To make a parking lot.

These are their "Leaders".
https://youtu.be/cUSLpTnL7C4

>>49249529
As noted they are figureheads, meant to appease the baser biological parts of Irken brains while the Control Brain (an A.I.) macro manages the species.

Man I would have love a mini series about these two being dicks to everyone.

Also on PAKs
The device contains all of the Irken's knowledge, effectively serving as a auxiliary brain, and it holds a great array of weapons and tools. It also contains the host's personality, charging cell, atmospheric processor, and a handy auto-reset that will 'reactivate' an Irken if they suffer a fatal injury (Plague of Babies). The Irken host's job is encoded into the PAK's programming, and can be changed instantly by a Control Brain (which can also delete all data in the PAK; such is known as deactivation).

>>49246852
>Well whoever they were they're all dead, and they left these huge monuments to mock me. I HATE THEM! I hate them so much I wish they were-
>*Goes to kick bare skull lying in the sand*
>Oh-ho. Yeah...

>>49249529

I remember one episode where Zim reported the humans were monumentally stupid despite being significantly taller than the average Irken. Red was visibly confused, asking how something tall could be dumb, all while Purple kept losing track of the conversation.

>>49250006
Honestly, the Red one at least seemed usually competent.
I feel like he was low-key aware of being a puppet figure, but knew he had it good as is.

>>49250041
He was totally one of those upper management types who knew how to do his job -just- well enough to not bring ire or greater responsibilities.

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>>49250006
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dPbdyZRY6s

>>49250069

Thing is though Red isn't beholden to anyone. I do get the impression he was sincerley interested in expanding the Empire for the sake of more junk food and cheap entertainment.

>>49250080
That's the one.

>>49250080
Strangely one of the few times they seem to take Zim at face value instead of assuming he's too stupid to recognize the intelligence of other beings. Obviously the very idea, ahem, irked them that much.

>>49248343
>Waaaah I don't like these systems so I'm going to shit all over anybody referring to them

This is literally what you sound like, you dense sack of shit.

>>49250184
I get the feeling he knew that if the Control Brain thought the Empire was better off without him it would get rid of him.

>>49250246

Well their society is almost religiously adherent to the idea tall individuals are naturally smarter and stronger. They have a peace treaty with the Planet Jackers, which is unusual for an empire content to just subjugate whatever other races they encounter. It might not be too hard to imagine part of it is respect for the large height of the Jackers.

The idea an entire race of Tallest-sized aliens is collectively dumber than Zim probably intrigued them.

>>49250295
I'm also pretty sure he knew something was up.
He just knows better than to ask anything. This is pretty likely goven that he is the one making most of the "rational" decisions, and generally grasps the severity of whatever situation presents itself. Usually.
Actually, this would make him really intelligent given the setting.

>>49250415

Red almost certainly is smarter than just about any other Irken. But like the rest of them, he's still a short-sighted hedonist.

>>49250267
You know when you respond to a troll like that you're basically sucking his dick, right? Like to completion.

>>49250438
As is to be expected of one handed any luxury one would demand. He was a figure head, and this ensures that his life is comparatively luxurious within reason. The short-sighted nature of his work could conceivably be due to his suspicion of the Brains actual role.
They're pulling the strings and could dispose of him, so why risk personal agency? Go with the flow because that's your safest bet.
Still not calling him a genius though.

>>49250379

>Irkens are /fit/

>>49250438
>>49250520
If I remember correctly according to author notes there was an orange Tallest who died shortly before the series began or during Zims' romp who was actually more competent, in an autistic by the numbers way.

>>49250549

>give promotions and cushy assignments as rewards for growth spurts
>send manlets on suicide missions
>use the shortest individuals as mobile drink tables
>incapable of understanding how a tall person can be stupid
>completely unaware of their own myopic, idiot personalities

Sounds like /fit/

>>49250606
The powers of MIDDLE MANAGEMENT and ULTIMATE AUTISM combining might have made them the greatest threat possible in the setting.

Come to think of it, what was the second greatest threat to the galaxy? After the Irken.

>>49250606
I always thought it would be revealed that Dib's dad was the third Tallest, deposed in a coup and content to reign over the idiot-apes of Earth in disguise.

>>49250606

I believe she was supposed to show up in a flash back episode where she gets eaten by some kind of energy blob Zim accidentally unleas

>>49250648
Either the Planet Jackers, since they were feeding planets to a don't star, or the Santa suit.

>>49250714
Previous Tallest, both killed by Zim.
http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/Almighty_Tallest_Miyuki
http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/Tallest_Spork

Why the hell did the Control Brain and Tallest Red and Purple tolerate his existence?

>>49250720
Planet Jackers are the closest outside of the Space Donkey as they ha that treary. That one Planet Jacker was able to go toe to toe with Zim so they aren't half bad.

>>49250720
santa suit?

>>49251170
Something Zim made that turns into an annual apocalypse for the next 2 million years.

>>49251360
Oh, I forgot about that episode.

I really need to rewatch the show

>>49251394
Rewatched it a couple years ago. It holds up well, if you haven't had many bad experiences or hold much hate for the lolsorandumb crowd.

>>49250821
If you possess a sword that kills Gods at the cost of the wielders life, do you even dare to try shattering it? Or do you send it to your enemies, or merely banish it to the void. That's what they tried. After all, better to be safe than sorry.

>>49251497
It more like possessing the sword that will end the universe.

>>49250821

>it has been confirmed by Rosearik Rikki Simons while at InvaderCON that the character was named after the storyboard artist Miyuki Hoshikawa, who worked on such episodes as Bolognius Maximus. According to Simons, the writers of Invader Zim created the character based on their surprised reaction at learning Hoshikawa had previously done work on the anime classic Akira, which she treated with extreme modesty.

That's a very interesting career trajectory.

>>49251497
And in the comics, this kinda bites them in the ass, in that Zim accidentally destroys "half of space" (the universe?) when they teleport literal trash to him with an experimental teleportstion device (because of course The Tallest have no better use for it then to fuck around with Zim), and he sends it back to them after a panic attack which, due to the nature of the device, causes space to jsut, well, explode.

IZ being IZ and having continuity that's as consistent as Warhammer 40Ks, that doesn't really matter and The Tallest (possibly?) survive, as we see them in the next issue when Future!Zim contacts them.

So yeah, as a feat, The Massive either is fast enough to cross across half the width if the universe before it explodes, OR it survived said explosion.

Or maybe continuity doesn't matter, who knows?
>>49250648
>ome to think of it, what was the second greatest threat to the galaxy? After the Irken

Still going by the Comics, and ignoring the Cosmic Donkey (a Star God that kicks planets into stars or, failing that, kicks it so hard that all life on a planet just dies), I'd say The Pants. An alien race of mind controlling parasotes that can take over entire planets in a matter of days, if not hours, and are Mercenaries to boot? That's just frightening to think about.

>>49252217

Are the comics any good?

I'm generally wary about revivals that take place years after the source material originally ended.

>>49252217
Interesting on both points.

Thank you for answering two of my posts[spoiler/].

>>49252249
I'd say so. They're fully written by Jhinen Vasquez, so they keep that weird dark random humour IZ had, and it has a bit (a bit) less of the "LUL IT'S RANDOM ISN'T THAT FUNNY!" Humour the show would sometimes have (i.e Gir just doing shit because, with the omly real bit of that humour being a recurring character who recaps and kind of sort of not really provides a synopsis for each issue).

But, yeah, I'd recommend it.

>>49252249
RIP Futurama.

>>49248306
Shit I'd play this, maybe make it a module to "Sci-fi army simulator" the way Chaptermaster was

>>49249656
as seen in The Trial said information needs to be processed by the Control brains for said deletion, attempting this on Zime drove three of them completely insane, 180ing from declaring him defective to singing his praises

>>49248265
I mean...wouldn't they just be Imperium of Man with a new coat of paint?

>>49252916
the imperium is to bogged down by its own ritual and red tape. bane blades could be rolled off the lot by the hour is it weren't for all the ritual to make sure chaos didn't get a hold of them in the blink of an all seeing eye for example. Irkins are much to efficient to be the imperium.

>>49246927
I think the Irkens might be able to take on any one single faction, but not all of them overtime.

>>49253190
I mean in terms of tabletop rules. Powerful vehicles, loads of trash infantry to clog the enemy's treads, etc?

>>49253681
They'd be some absurd combination of Tau and Ork.

>>49253681

Give them rules like whatever edition it was that had shooty orks sweeping shit, replace their vehicles with tau ones and give them absolutely terrible HQ choices.

>>49253934
On one hand Invaders are their most likely HQ choices and are combat monsters. On the other I doubt they have any leadership ability or knowledge of large scale military operations.

How this translates to tabletop I have no idea?

>>49246358
Because INVADER BLOOD MARCHES THROUGH THEIR VEINS LIKE GIANT RADIOACTIVE RUBBER PANTS, obviously.

>>49248197
Irkens /are/ the PAK. The PAK contains their personalities and their memories. Their bodies are mass-produced meat-puppets that only exist to carry the PAK around.

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Stat me.

>>49247840
So how does the Resisty fight them? Weren't there another race of gray-skinned shorty midgets who were on-par with the Irkens but lost?

>>49246358
Unless you go like culture or shit like that where its so OTT its ridiculous, then yeah the irkens are pretty fucking good in terms of tech

>>49246358
Fuck I miss this show, such an easy watch nonsense programme

>>49254274
They were a bunch of small fries the Tallest probably weren't even aware of outside of that one scientist they wanted to get their hands on.

It's like, you're doing this important thing but somewhere in the room there is a fly. It flies around you but fuck you're busy so you wave it away.

You'll get rid of it when you aren't doing important shit

>>49254267
1d10/1d100.

>>49247840
As mentioned before, incredible INT but awful WIS, they have the technological know how, even tallest red is more than capable when he needs to be, but most irkens have no real sense of how to use or react to anything effectively

>>49254274
They literally didn't, they were about to get blown the fuck up when zim hacked the "massive" and took control of it, allowing the resisty to attack them without being attacked back, although all they managed to do was graffiti the hull

>>49246728
But it's not just one ship. Each Space Gunmen is a ship onto itself. Likewise, while the entire fleet can combine into one grand warmachine, the fleet is comprised of multiple different parts.

>>49248719
Fuck, I sure did.

OP here, how is this thread still going?

Did we get anywhere with incorporating Irkens into 40k?

>>49257606
They don't fit the theme at all, but if they did appear in 40k, assuming they don't fuck themselves over with incompetence I believe they could take the imperium or orks or tau but chaos, nids or necrons are where they would struggle

>>49246823
[citation needed]

>>49257606
Expensive combat monsters, bad armor but a revive chance. I don't know if there's already a keyword for that, I don't play the game.
Bad or no tactics, but you can field any models that are physically shorter than your HQ.

>>49248496
In-universe, there's also the issue that the show takes place after the Earth has recovered from some kind of apocalypse. When asked why the sky is red in the show, Vasquez said it was the aftermath of an apocalyptic event in the past. In light of that, here's what I think happened:

>Nuclear war or some other apocalyptic event wipes out majority of humanity
>Human society regresses by thousands of years
>Remaining humans rediscover pre-apocalyptic technology and build their new society on it, without really understanding it
>Crapsack world because it's basically cavemen stumbling around with ray guns

>>49246358
>why
Dumb weebs.

Also, downsteamers will be here, and you're all not even worth calling fags.

>>49257606
It's called Dungeons: The Dragoning 7th edition
And it was also combined with D&D.

>>49246358
Because they conquered the galaxy despite being literally retarded and literally basing their command structure on who is the guy who is tallest.

The only way you do that is by being the unquestionably strongest.

>>49258122

Explains why so many humans are so grotesquely deformed.

>>49258309
They're really good at utilizing enslaved engineers and scientists from smarter races. Their MO seems to be conquering a planet, glassing it to construct some kind of instant gratification service, and then using the surviving inhabitants for menial labor and scientific advancement.

Pretty easy to become the big dog in the galaxy when you devote entire planetary populations to expanding your war machine.

Yet they still aren't at war with the Jackers.

>>49258506
Not yet, they have a treaty with them (unsure why?) maybe they have sufficient tech levels to cause an issue for the irkens? They will get around to conquering them too though

Also maybe they use the jackers as a form of mercenary? In exchange they tell them which planets they don't want

>>49259291

>they have a treaty with them (unsure why?) maybe they have sufficient tech levels to cause an issue for the irkens?

Well, their ships are powerful enough where a two-man vessel can tow an entire planet out of orbit and across space. Not to mention they can place their towing shells around a planet without the inhabitants ever knowing what's going on.

Then of course there's the fact individual Jackers are apparently very large and strong, so I doubt they'd be pushover like most of the races the Irkens subjugate. An Irken-Jacker war would probably be pretty costly for both sides and the Irkens don't seem to like conflicts they can't easily win.

>>49246358
they have the best soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTUx52syT4o&index=1&list=PLAxh2zbwIqOKd2T1001qimWfcT6f7dIns

>>49258122

so Fallout?

>>49259446

Fallout if humanity was more or less able to rebuild themselves and then became an even more extreme parody of consumer culture.

>>49258506
Yes but Zim is objectively a complete moron and even he would conquer earth if it wasn't for Dib

>>49259614

Earth is a special case. Humans are shown as one of the stupidest, most self-involved species in the galaxy. The Membranes are the only individuals actually appear intelligent, and even they're too short-sighted or inattentive to look beyond Zim.

>>49259614
I used to wonder if Prof.Membrane was really as unaware as it seemed. He might not have known about what his son was up to but the atmospheric water balloon planet jackers and planet duel are hardly things a scientist like him could straight up not know about.

Some of those things must have crossed his radar at some point and he had to have been curious.

Unless lol continuity.

so what would happen if zim actually won

>>49259769

The Tallest would've steamrolled the planet to build a giant Dave & Buster's and then send Zim on another suicide mission

>>49259769
Dib goes on to join and then lead the resisty.

Gaz becomes a baddas space bounty hunter who turns a blind eye to the resisty cause deep down she does care about her brother.

Prof.Membrane gets to enjoy work as a science slave, maybe doesn't even realize it's a different government paying for his stuff.

The Tallest don't really care.

Zim gets sent to some planet chosen at random. Maybe gets told to conquer a blackhole.

>>49259839
>Dib goes on to join and then lead the resisty.
Wasn't that the long-term plan for the series? Dib joins the resisty and spends 3 seasons chasing Zim from planet to planet until he becomes Invader Dib and conquers the Irken homeworld?

>>49246592
This, the end of Gurren Lagann was a fleet of ships so strong they were going to go fight a sentient singularity that formed because they were making so much god damned energy the universe was trying to implode.

The flag ship is a god damned reality bender so large he uses galaxies as shurikens.

>>49259868
Yeah pretty sure it was.

Also forget what I said about the Tallest. They turn Earth into a juicebar, stay a couple days then move on never to think about it again.

>>49246753
You realize that that entire fight was happening in an alternate universe made of magic willpower... They weren't REALLY throwing planets and galaxies around.... They were huge, but not THAT huge, and especially not in the real galaxy.

>>49259917
So they created entire universe to fight in, one that was visible to our universe?

>>49259839

Gaz was sexy.

>>49259974
She was ten! But yeah she grows up to be super hot.

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>>49246592
>implying that's at all an impressive fleet
C'mon, nigga. Even a mostly-normal Scopedog could do what Gurren Lagann did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAmzPj9bLE&index=81&list=WL

>>49257998
Don't forget their Invader units. Irkens can replace non-unique "named" characters on the other side with a single unit that compares favorably to a Daemon Prince in powerscale.

>>49246977
That's not even remotely true. The Terran marines' basic weapons from Starcraft could turn a company of space marines into paste without running out of ammo, based on its lore. And Starcraft isn't that bad compared to most.

All in all, 40k is a pretty restrained setting.

>>49247037
>Nothing in Zim quite exists in the same numbers as in 40k.

Oh, you mean the entire million of space marines across the galaxy? Or are you perhaps referring to the 10.000 stormtroopers the Imperium can field?

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>>49260163

>40k is a pretty restrained setting.

>>49260208
Don't listen to him, anon. He's just confused at the fact that sci-fi settings have no sense of scale whatsoever.

>>49260188
Not to mention the trillions of imperial guard, and trillions of orks and probably quintillions of nids

>>49259993

>D&B offers junk food (including tendies), alcohol, and video games all in the same building

Sounds exactly like the kind of place the Irken would divert resources into building.

>>49260245

Orks and Irken are both green warmongers with a hierarchy based on physical size.

>>49260208
It really is, compared to the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, Starcraft, Culture, and so on and so forth.

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Prepare your anus.

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>>49260163
>40k is a restrained setting
>There is an entire sub-faction and whole nother pointy eared spikier faction of pic related
>The """good guys""" are Nazis, Soviets, and extreme Catholicism attitude smashed together with an unhealthy dose of vestigial 80's metal album cover and drugs in the darkest grim they could think of
>40K
>Restrained
>The sub faction of the """good guys""" worship machines, but their expertise boils down to cultism and cock slapping buttons
>40K
>RESTRAINED

>>49259446
I think that IZ is actually set a LOT farther in the future than it appears. Far enough for humanity to have regressed and then recovered (sort of).

Fallout, but far enough in the future that the world is more or less indistinguishable from its pre-war state.

>>49259763
It is implied that several episodes are non-canonical, if only by the fact that there's no evidence of them having occurred in the next episode. Like in the water balloon one, the entire city is leveled by Zim's orbital water balloon. Next episode, like it never happened.

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>>49260163
>The Terran marines' basic weapons from Starcraft could turn a company of space marines into paste without running out of ammo, based on its lore.
actually going by the lore, the bolter is more ridiculous than the gauss rifle. It just never comes up because no one gives a fuck about made up weapon ballistics.

>40k is a pretty restrained setting

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>>49259974
>>49260013

This so much

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>>49260617

>>49259917
>>49259959
Gurren Lagann was a parody of shonen giant mecha animes. It doesn't HAVE to make any kind of sense, except in its own context, and even then, only in so much as it's necessary to tell a coherent story.

Dib would make for an interesting member of the inquisition

>>49261327
He would be really good at it, if it wasn't for the fact that no other Inquisitor would believe him.

>>49262022
You aren't listening to me! The lord high inquisitor is actually BIGFOOT!

smash cut to a bunch of jokaro slapping typewriters while what is clearly a big foot pokes at an evicer coffin with a stick.

Cut back to inquisitor dib being carted away for servitor conversion.

I WISH TO VIOLATE TAK

>>49264591
I also wish this.
If only Irken had sexual organs.
Perhaps my height would be of use then.

>>49264892
They might have some vestigial ones. It'll hurt her but her PAK can fullheal on command so do whatever you want.

>>49264960
> Humanity turns the tide of the invasion.

>>49249033
This did happen. Although I think they killed him or something and didn't honor the bet.

>>49249656
PAK's are a future version of cellphones linked to Facebook profiles. Nothing more.

Saying a PAK is the Irken is like saying you ARE your social security number. It accesses great deals of information about you, which you can affect, but it is not you exactly.

>>49265153
You're right, they didn't. They flew him into a star.

>>49265153

>Although I think they killed him or something and didn't honor the bet.

As was stated, they got rid of him by strapping him to a ship programmed to fly into a star.

the same ship they gave Zim to return to Earth

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Marie Kanker or Gaz?

>>49265550
This isn't fair, anon.

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>>49265581

>>49265550
Gaz

>>49265667
Why do you do this to me?
Why are we born with such fragile hearts?

>>49265550
>into punk chicks
>colored hair is a warning sign

Also, kinda horrified by how much r34 of both of them there is. God damn.

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>>49265550
>>49265581
>>49265667
>>49265674
>>49265698

>which prepubescent girl makes the best waifu

>>49265716
What is wrong with colored hair, anon?

>>49259839
>Zim gets sent to some planet chosen at random. Maybe gets told to conquer a blackhole.
And he'd actually do it, too. And then he'd deliver the whole thing right to the Tallest's doorstep, just to show he could.

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>>49265729

>>49265720
The one you can patiently groom before taking her for a woman.

>>49265720
Anon, Marie is in high school.
Or at least she was years ago.

>>49265720
In all fairness, I was like 14 when invader zim was on tv.

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>>49265729

Not him, but a certain and very unsavory political demographic has largley co-opted the dyed hair look in the modern image.

>>49265783
>Peach Creek Jr. High

Even if held back she's no older than like 14.

>>49265806
And didn't EEnE air even earlier?

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>>49246358
nah

>>49265824
Now why did they have to go and corrupt a neat little hair style for everyone?

>>49265878
They're not traditionally attractive, and they know it. So instead of try to compete, they mistakenly assume 'alternative modeling' means they're good enough to do it to. Except they fail to realize even the alternative models are fucking hot traditionally.

It's the same problem as girls liking the pinup girls from the 50's and rockabilly stuff. For whatever reason, they think because the pond is smaller, they can look cuter there instead of compete with the massive bust cheerleader.

>>49254149
It's somewhat overstating it to say that the PAK is their "real" body. It's vital to their biological processes and contains data on their memories, skills, and personality, but their organic bodies still seem to be their "main" selves. In the episode where Zim lost his PAK, he retained all his physical and mental faculties but his condition rapidly deteriorated, as if he had lost a vital organ and was dying; meanwhile, his PAK carried out a simple autonomous program to find a new host body, rather than acting like a sentient being in its own right.

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>>49265667

>>49265950
I'm sure the spleen is the critical vent for whatever the Pak facilitates.

Because Vasquez loves hurting spleens, possibly with bees when available.

>>49265729
>What is wrong with colored hair, anon?
It's a rage trigger for people like him. They mentally associate it with certain objective facts which are also rage triggers, so they tend to see red whenever they see it even when there's no sign of the things that they use to rationalize their anger.

>>49266007
He seems more sad then angry.

You cunt.

>>49265988

>Because Vasquez loves hurting spleens

I thank that's just because he thinks the word "spleen" sounds funny.

>>49266007
>person that has not dated girls with brightly colored hair
Thanks for your insight.

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>>49246358
Is the most powerful the one with the mightiest weapon or the one that doesn't need weapons at all?

>>49265878
>Now why did they have to go and corrupt a neat little hair style for everyone?
They try to destroy, demonize and ruin everything related to politics, feelings or facts they deem "unsavory". Mental scorched earth tactics are simply what they do. It's not meant to be reasonable; if they were reasonable, they'd be able to distinguish between the people they're trying to annihilate and the things they say about them.

>>49266036
Over generalizing Women who choose that as a fashion choice is rather similar to a radical feminist declaring the evils of men, isn't it?

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>>49266097

Regardless of politics, most women I see with dye jobs don't know how to rock it and just make themselves look uglier.

Short hair with tasteful dye is unbelievably attractive. But I've sadly realized most of the women who can really make it work don't go for that look.

>>49266097
>But great emperor, is it necessary to create legions of genetically engineered cybernetic super soldiers?
>Did you not see the fabric of space rip open and living ships spewing literal demons spill out?
You meet the opposition with like or greater force. If feminist nutjobs hadn't ruined colored hair, no one would associate it with feminist nutjobs.

I even mentioned punk chicks. They were crazy back then too, but they were into going to concerts and fucking. Now it's less about punk music and more about fighting the mythical patriarchy they learned about in college.

It's a genuine warning nowadays.

>>49266116
I think they'd sort themselves out without any effort on his part.

>>49266186
Which merely makes it all the more special when it works.

>>49266186
>tasteful dye
no such thing

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>>49266243

This. A cute girl with a good dye job is like a unicorn.

I never thought he'd be relevant again but he is now, for this thread and where it has gone.
http://illwillpress.com/HAIRCAREHD.html

>>49266320
You just have to close your eyes and believe, anon.

Close your eyes and take the leap, because that's where she's waiting for you.

>>49266359
Why did you go full fag?

>>49266359
>ruining a good irken 40k thread with this bullshit

>>49266434

The thread went downhill as soon as people started waifuing the show's characters.

>>49266097
With the exception that it actually happens, yes. Pointing this out isn't going to stop them. Hypocrisy is something they actively seek out; they call it "ironic" that their favorite tactics are also their favorite accusations, as if declaring war on something entitled them to be that thing.

>>49265720
You're in the wrong thread, son.

>>49245889
>>49246027
>>49246301