/swg/ - Moffrence Edition

need to add HoTAC to the OP pasta

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Posted this right at the bump limit, so here it is again:

In EotE an Aratech 57-D Speeder Bike is 2,800 credits. In supplements the Gallis-Tech 48 Roller is 750 credits.

If I wanted a motorcycle that was the Speeder Bike but without the hover capacity (and perhaps nerfed maneuverability), what would be an appropriate cost?

I'm looking for a bike that has more encumbrance and passenger capacity than the roller, but at a roller price point.

Another way to put it: how much of an increase in cost to upgrade the stock roller to have a passenger and extra cargo?

>>49223303

I don't know what you're talking about, anon. I've been playing with mine for weeks :^)

>>49223865
which is why I'm so confus about why the fuck can't they just send some to America

>>49223921
I know people who have had all of wave 9 since gen con

>>49223939
yea I fucking know

fucking ffg

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I recently finished painting my Y wing for the HoTAC campaign I am in

>>49223482
600 credits for a motorbike. They're simple tech by modern standards, they're even simpler by star wars standards.

>>49223303
It's nice to see i'm not the only one being an impatient fuck about this.

>>49224187
That's a good point. What would be a good stat block? I'd feel for that price it'd be worse than a reskinned roller.

>>49224284
I'll have one in a bit

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>>49224284
>>49224299
here you go

>>49224551
Yo, this is sweet, thanks! I assume the extra encumberence is from integral saddlebags.

>>49224651
exactly.

>>49223921
I've had it since gencon. Crazy how long it's taking to get to stores. I got an arc and a protectorate, but I'm really itching to get that lancer.

>>49223343
Who is that dashing man in the hover chair and what is that giant book in his lap?

>>49224837
The rule lawyer

>>49224774
It mostly has to do with the middle-man distributors. Consider this, then send them to the distribution warehouses (usually independant companies who hold an assortment of products from different companies, and sell them to local game stores or small chains. The local game stores (and big chain stores like Barnes and Noble) place their pre-orders in advance, and then receive the product within about a week of each other. And FFG gives them all the go-ahead to sell at a certain date, so as to not create artificial demand from stores trying to sell before the others.

GenCon was all FFG, no middlemen or retail chains, which means the profits they get for selling stuff is even greater than normal. GenCon is usually one of the last cons of the year that they sell merhandise at. Starting last year (or a few years ago), they stopped selling anything at PAX Prime. I assume it had to do with independant game store retailers being there, or simply because they just would rather hang out and enjoy playing games. But regardless, they had no store (again) this year, which means no Wave IX.

>>49225007
Yea, I mean it makes sense and everything. I'm just really hype for Vectored thrusters and Rau Rau fight the power

How broken would it be if we saw a Jabba crew that took 2 slots and allowed you to flip over used illicit cards?

>>49225289
With the absurd hype everyone including myself has for the protectorates' and Rau, it feels like a setup for disappointment when it'll turn out the fang fighter isn't the best thing since Empire Strikes Back.

>>49225864
We'll we've seen all the upgrades, pilots, and dials

They look super fun, I don't need it to be the best ship ever or anything.

>>49225815
Huh that'd be a cool. Like, as an ability or just one a turn or something? Or maybe a one shot that flips them all but discards jabba?

>>49226013
Or limit it per round like palp

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>>49225815
That sounds like a pretty fun Scum palp-variant actually. So every turn, a used illicit get's restored? I think it could work, with a cost in the 6-8 range it wouldn't break anything, although running it dedicated on Rigged Cargo Chute could turn ridiculous.

>>49226039
Infinite glitterstims seems a bit strong but then again so is palp

>>49225864
>2 slots
Make him a crew version of a huge ship!
Jabba (fore) 4 pts
The Hutt (aft) 4 pts

Hey, does anyone have the stats to the nemesis Rathtar from the TFA beginner game?

Anyone have any alternative game modes to X-Wing? I often play in large groups and my friends and I play something called "38". It's a free-for-all where each player gets exactly 1 ship and 38 points in which to make it. It's a bit of a story to how we got 38 points, but it's a really solid number as 40 is just too high and 35 too few.

>>49226396
5/3/1/2/2/1
Soak 7; 32 WT; 12 ST
Athletics 2, Brawl 2, Resilience 2, Vigilance 1
Adversary 2, Grapple (Once per round, may perform Grapple maneuver; until beginning of Rathtar's next turn, enemies must spend 2 maneuvers instead of 1 to move from engaged to short range of it)
Plethora of tentacles (Brawl; Dmg 6; Crit 4; Short; Spend 2 Advantage, target may not make maneuvers until the end of the following round)
Lamprey Maw (Brawl; Dmg 10; Crit 3; Engaged)

>>49226541
If you want something more mission oriented Heroes of the Aturi Cluster is a lot of fun

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>>49226581
Thanks man!

>>49226541
I don't have any game modes to contribute, but, mind sharing some build you or your friends used? I'm interested to see what sort of glorious bloat-monsters fly in such mode.

>>49226581
>>49226619
Woops, I forgot:
Easy Prey (when a rathtar makes an attack against an immobilized enemy, it lowers the critical rating of Lamprey Maw to 1 for the duration of the attack)

>>49226198
What if they added deathsticks in game as well for all those addictive drugs.
>Removes any stress until the next turn
>add focus
>deal any damage face up

>>49224551
Is there an online tool for a vehicle sheet like this?

>>49227436
unfortunately no. I made this by fucking around with the files for the character creator. It's pretty easy to do.

>>49227484
one quick tip is that the <KEY> tag in the vehicle's file is used to get the pictures that go with it. make sure the name is the same for both images and the <KEY> entry. If your custom stuff is not appearing , go to options in the chargen and make sure whatever source you specified is selected. Also, images must be .pngs.

>>49223343
SWG, I have a question.

I'm currently writing a Kotor era campaign and I'm looking for inspiration in non-star wars related media, having already exhausted my options in-universe.

Do you all have any recommendations?

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>>49226638
I doubt they'd be of much use. We tend to be very, very casual, only two of us play remotely competitive, and we certainly don't bring that spirit to the game. It's really more about creative combos or creating overly specialized ships; anyone who tries too hard will probably be focused down.

Soontir Fel is far and away the most played pilot; there are more games with multiple of him than none. He's just so darn versatile and leads to fun combinations.

>>49227793
What kind of campaign are you running? If it's noir, I dug the Stockholm Noir trilogy, and currently loving an LA Noire LP for example.
Have you read Synners? It's a really good cyberpunk book, could do stuff with implants and tech? Idk.

>>49227822
Both of those sound really nice, thanks. It's mostly going to be a dark times following the jedi civil wars. I plan to have a somewhat pulpy adventure being the main part with plot points rooted firmly in noir ( the betrayals, intrigue, and lack of overarching meaning outside the immediate).

>>49227995
Ok if you're doing Noir, Stockholm Noir might be a bit too 'modern' for your tastes, but stuff can be adapted (especially the 'wannabe royalty' subplot). LA Noire is LA Noire, a love letter to those films. There should be a Let's Play on YouTube with episodes titled "Lecture #" or something, that's the one I'm seeing.

And as to other non-noir things, the woman who wrote Synners also did Mindplayers, about mind-jacking (similar themes about mindplay) which is also excellent, and Tea From An Empty Cup which is more traditional cyberpunk. Neuromancer is a classic of the genre, but not sure what you can apply, slicing already is a thing. John LeCarre's books have a lot of spy tension in them, if that's what you're going for.

Have you read Discworld? It parodies a lot of genres and stuff, but it's got a lot of novel ideas, you could be able to crib something off of there (the Patrician could be a cool character for example)

>>49228070
I read discworld a long long time ago however, an update is probably in order for myself.

However, an odd thing that I've noticed was that watching "The young adventures of Indiana Jones" was quite helpful as well as a few more documentaries about WW2 in general. I've been looking into historical media concerning WW1 and the Napoleonic Wars as well.

I'm probably going to give Mindplayers or Synners a read first as I'm more interested in exploring the force as a personal dive into something that should be familiar to anybody as well as playing with cybernetics and droid "mental" development.

>>49228070
Also there was a Discworld Noir video game, I just remembered.

>>49227803
I find Fel to he anything but versatile, as far as build goes. On the table he's flexible, and can always boost/roll/evade around wherever he wants to go. But build-wise it's all-PtL all the time, with Autothrusters and Stealth/Shield or go home.

Unfortunately however, that's a common theme with Tie Interceptors anyways. Carnor Jax is always PtL with thrusters+stealt/shield as well, but with even more emphasis on R1 (and for good reason). And Turr Phenir is practically married to Veteran Instincts, although his ability makes him more fun to fly (IMO).

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>>49228150
I can't recommend Synners enough. I was first interested in Tea From An Empty Cup, but the bookstore had Synners so I thought I'd see what she wrote like before ordering the Omnibus.
25% of the way in, I ordered the Omnibus. Still haven't read Tea, actually.

Also look at that face, and tell me if she wouldn't be right at home in a Star Wars game.

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>>49223343
>MFW someone saved the image I made.

>>49224837
That's Grand Moff Hissa after an unfortunate accident on Duro and that book is the Dark Book of Imperial Justice.

>>49224198
My flgs is saying september 22nd

>>49228169
>it's all-PtL all the time, with Autothrusters and Stealth/Shield or go home
I agree, that's how I run him competitively, but when we play casual people usually just make him a one-shot-Johnny and go nuts with that.

>>49228662
Question: is the book physically dark or is it just a feeling

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You're cruising over Hosk Station and this SSD slaps you girl's ass. What do?

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>>49229443
SHE IS PURE MAIDEN! REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>49229308
The leather binding is as dark as whaladon orphan tears. Its pages are as dark as Supreme Prophet Kadann's boxer shorts. Its ink is as Dark as my Greetings to you.

In all seriousness, the only thing mentioned in the Dark Book of Imperial Justice is a brief marriage passage that basically states "If you marry the Emperor, you're his bitch forever and ever."

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>>49229443
She slaps him right back...

>>49229604
I don't understand how this design is even remotely practical. B-Wings always seemed silly to me.

>>49228169
carnor pairs well with juke too.

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>>49229640
I always interpret weird designs in star wars as being representative of the weird mentality of the species that designed it or had a hand in designing it. Like maybe there's a species that's used to having their cockpits gyro-stabilized relative to some imaginary plane in space, so they make something like the B-Wing as a weapons platform that obeys that mantra. I dunno.

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>>49226541

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>>49229640
>>49229640
Stranger things have been successful.

>>49229716
Oh. My. God.

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>>49229685
It was probably Lucas' WWII boner. Blohm & Voss made some bizzare shit.

Also, the B-Wing was designed by Ackbar and the Verpine Design Collective, so you're basically right anyway.

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>>49229738
I love how crazy 20th century aircraft designs got.

>>49229685
>>49229640
Take the B-Wing and its armament.

Then play Gyruss or Tempest to get the idea of what a gyroscopic cockpit would be like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3d1dM4B2rY

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I'm a newbie to x wing and have this card is pretty good but I'm unclear as to how it works. Can someone break it down for me?

>>49229926
If you have a target lock on a target, they cannot spend focus tokens or evade tokens to modify dice. They also cannot change the results. Its suspicious that it does not explicitly prevent your opponent from re-rolling the dice in question though.

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>>49229685
This guy made the B-Wing.

>>49229685
The Verpine are very odd bugs, anon.
Very odd.

>>49229926

If you have a target lock on the enemy ship, it can't modify any dice rolls. This means any abilities that would let them re-roll dice, change die results or add die results don't work.

This includes but isn't limited to: focus and evade tokens, spending target lock, Advanced Targeting Computer, Sensor Jammer, etc.

The only thing that works is Palpatine IF he's on a different ship than the one you're locked on to.

>>49230018
In new canon at least.

I do hope when they reintroduce him he's got a bunch of Verpine helping him.

>>49229716
That sounds awesome, but I'd call it "Super Bombad Dogfights" instead.
Personally I'd bring an A-Wing, Kihraxz, or (when it drops) Protectorate fighter.

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So when I use this do I need to have a target lock on an enemy ship? Or do I just spend a focus token and that's it?

Y'know, the Empire has Thrawn, and later Pellaeon.
Did the New Republic in Legends have any super brilliant Naval commanders?

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>>49230059
>letting fucking bugs be around your starships

>>49230090

Focus and that's it.

>>49230191
They had mai waifu, but I can't really think of any NR plot-important Naval masterminds.

>>49230191
Ackbar was their best. Garm Bel Iblis was noted as being fairly competent and Wedge, IIRC, eventually becomes the best damn carrier boss in the galaxy. During the hunt for Zsinj, Han also demonstrated considerable naval prowess.

>>49230208
That's fucking delicious. Thanks anon!

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>>49229782
The regular 104 was crazy enough- just make it go really stupid fast, really high, fuck turning, wings to carry fuel and ordinance.
They still use the silly little things to launch satellites
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160826-the-1950s-jet-launching-tiny-satellites

>>49230252
Bel Iblis was more than competent and one of the best fast-response commanders in the NR.

Etahn A'baht and Traest Kre'fey were also really good, but the New Republic lacking TACTICAL GENIUS level admirals compared to governmental bureaucracy was something of a plot point that allowed Imperial Warlords/Yevetha/Ssi-Ruuk/etc to rise to the challenge before the heroes stepped in.

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>>49228662
I got you babe

>>49229640
>practical ship designs
>Star Wars
Got some bad news for you...

>>49230293
You still will want something like Guidance Chip to boost your dice modification with the ordnance.

>I think the galaxy ought to avoid being united by a dictatorship. While it's true Fel might have that talent, what about his descendants? His heir? Rulers aren't necessarily wise through generations... I don't think the entire galaxy should be ruled by a system where everything depends on one person's character.

>>49230202
So instead you use wookie slaves? Those furballs on your battlestation? What would sheeve think if he could see you now?

>>49229999
doesn't rerolling come under modifying?

>>49231235
Yes. Rerolling is a modification.

>>49230202
gee tarkin, why does sheev let you have FOUR blue pens

if you were a the leader of a mercenary starfighter squadron in ~10 ABY, what would your unit fly?

>>49234193
Headhunters most likely.

>>49234193
What starfighters are available in 10 ABY?

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>>49234193
T-65s, Galm Team colors.

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>>49234193
Y-wings mostly, with a screen of whatever higher performance fighters I can get my hands on. X-wings, Kirhaxz, stolen TIE Interceptors, anything that can preform the interceptor/superiority role.

The exact fighter complement will depend on how well the unit has been doing. If we've been winning a lot and making some money then the fighters will be better. On the other hand if we're just scraping by then expect some uglies around to fill in the ranks.

How long til we get an announcement for a new eote book. We've had an adventure then a class book so it's probably going to be setting stuff right? I am dying for the bounty hunter book

>>49234193

X-Wings. And if Incom isn't coughing those up, I suppose we'll go for Heavy-95s.

>>49226198
Glitterstim stresses the ship every turn, so even if it's renewed you might not be using it every turn.

It's also somewhat tricky to make Scum lists when you're down ~8pts and need a ship with a few crew slots, they have enough trouble finding really efficient ships as-is.

>>49234193
Two flights of Vaksais, one flight of Skipray Blastboats to bring the heavy firepower.

due to budget constraints I can only get one big ship
u wing or heros of the resistance?

>>49234754
Do you already have a Yt-1300 hundred?

If so, I'd hold on and wait to see more about the U-wing first

>>49234193
Retrofitted YT-series, there is a lack of heavy fighters and I'm going to corner that market.

>>49234193
B-Wings.

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>>49234193
Anything I could get my hands on. Old Freighters, Z-95's, Y-Wings etc.

No clue if you're around Anon, but to the guy who made that Whisper/2x Zeta Sqdn/2x Obsidian Sqdn lost, thanks. I did really well by my standards and love it. Will be my go to list from now on.

Much love Anon
Much love

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>>49235820

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What if "Alderaanian Princesses" were the Star Wars equivalent of "Nigerian Princes"? Shitty droids you got a deal on spit out a holo promising adventure and reward, then the droid leads you out into the desert to get carjacked by gangs of Jawas... or worse.

with the upcoming wave 9 release thinking about Arc builds

Was thinking of trying Thane with Advanced protons R7T1 and vector thrusters paired with biggs to trigger his ability more often and use the r7t1 boost plus TL to get a hard hitting initial joust with the APT.

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>>49237607
and i forgot the pic.

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>>49237607
>>49237649
It's a ways away, but I feel like she'll do well with Thane.

>>49235820
You're welcome!

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>>49223343
Make room, best Legends character coming through.

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>>49237929
How can he be the best if he doesn't bid you dark greetings

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>>49237929

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So is anyone else going too immediately repaint an Arc into razor squadrons colours.

>>49238571
Why'd you repost the other anon's pic? I don't get it.

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>nucanon has turned AT-ATs into jobbers

>>49238925
They got chumped hard in ESB anyway, being slow and taken out by a Snowspeeder.
And the ones in Rogue One seem to be cargo transport ones, rather than combat ones.

>>49238984
>They got chumped hard in ESB anyway, being slow and taken out by a Snowspeeder.
They still decimated the Rebel forces and shot Luke down. Besides, the tow cable trick is overrated, it only worked once and every further attempt was met with failure.

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>>49238603
shhhhh

>>49238596
I sure hope someone do. And then post pictures.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!120:18,37,-1,-1,118:-1:3:&sn=swoopY-wing

Swoopy Y-wings: Yay or nay?

>>49239008
If I remember my EU lore right wasn't the AT-AT really unpopular due to the towcable trick that the Imperial Army didn't use them until Veers came along and showed them how it was done?

Principally I suspect by fielding them in properly supported groups.

>>49239415
Yay. Just not with
blaster. Dorsal, TLT, or Autblaster is where it's at.

>>49239469
Dorsal would be nice, but I'm not buying a Ghost just for that. TLT is great, but feels wasted on Kavils extra dice. I considered autoblaster, but maneuvering a space cow into range one seems tricky, is it doable?

>>49239469

Kavil with Autoblaster IS pretty tasty.

Jesus I just realised you can give Kavil Fearlessness so with an autoturret you no longer have to worry about targets to the front of you.

>>49239567

It's doable. Range 1 is longer than you think.

>>49239425
>Principally I suspect by fielding them in properly supported groups
Pretty much. Fielding AT-ATs without proper support is as stupid an idea as fielding anything else without proper support. The Battle of Hoth demonstrated that when, IIRC, Vader rushed the deployment. In an ideal situation, Blizzard Force would likely have deployed the AT-ATs after they'd established air supremacy, and established a decent buffer of more expendable ground assets.

>>49239599

Well, in fairness, Darth was right to do that, two transports had already gotten clean away and he needed to try and capture as many troops and personel on the ground as quickly as possible.

Plus, that was why he took Veers in the first place, if there was one man who could make a landing that rushed work it was him.

Hi /SWG/, I'm gonna be DMing for the first time soon in EotE and was looking for some advice.

What's the best way to collect and keep track of all of the possible items/weapons players can find/buy? Is there a resource somewhere that already has them all listed out or do I have to help them pick through all the books?

How tacky is it to being in canon characters into the story? I wasn't thinking anyone to major, just a chance run in with Hondo somewhere down the line.

Finally, how overpowered are the inquisitors in F&D? I don't plan on the throwing them at the party for a long long time but would a fight with two of them at the same time be way to much in almost all circumstances?

Oh and if someone has good stats for a Super battle droid floating around somewhere that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance.

>>49239581

Fearlessness doesn't completely fix it, as it requires you to be in the enemy's arc to trigger. As a 1-agility turret ship, that's something you're generally trying to avoid.

>>49239684

Oh yeah, that's true. I wish there was a way of giving multiple Scum Y-Wings Elite slots, a pair of Hired Guns or Syndic Thugs with Title, Auto Turrets and Fearlessness would be hilarious.

I mean, you'd lose all the time, but it'd still be fun.

>>49239567
>I considered autoblaster, but maneuvering a space cow into range one seems tricky, is it doable?
With EU and unhinged a ywing can get itself around. Vector thrusters will probably be another good option for autoblaster ywings

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Freighter-sized up-gunned vulture droid: Yay or Ney?

>>49240010
Those are some serious looking guns.
Seems fine too me.

>>49239670
http://swrpg.viluppo.net/

I don't see a real issue with using canon characters as long as it's not poorly done (character acting how they normally wouldn't).

FaD Inquisitors can be pretty powerful, but it all boils down to both how you make them and how combat-oriented your players are. But against typical groups who aren't above 200-300xp, and using the suggestion to give them a second turn each round of combat, they're still fairly formidable.

>>49239567
Give Kavil Engine Upgrade or Vectored Thrusters if you go with Autoblasters.

TLT is actually not a waste on him. You end up with 4 dice out of arc, which makes Autothrusters less likely to negate the damage, and puts 3-agility ships into the realm of potential targets. Not even Fel enjoys trying to shake off 2 shots at 4-dice each.

>>49239670
Canon characters would be fine if it's minor stuff, just someone with a name to go "oh it's that guy", rather than having Leia or Sheev or whomever interact with a bunch of (probably) nobodies. But if I were a player I wouldn't mind running across some minor-but-there guy. Think "guy whose arm Obi-Wan cut off in the cantina" or "X-Wing pilot retconned to be alive" rather than Jabba or Luke.

>>49240279
Unless 2 players go before the Inquisitor, the first one gets a crit that prevents him voluntarily spending stress and therefore preventing any more parry, and then the second player downs him. Poor Inquisitor didn't even get to go.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Annihilator-class_starfighter

What do the shipfags of /swg/ think of these bad boys?

>>49240468
I can only imagine the Imperial response to a band of undesirables being shown to kill an inquisitor in a matter of seconds.

>>49239670

- There's an index which is mostly updated, only from official materials though, but you can use that: http://swrpg.viluppo.net/

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/223206-mackenziehnc-brand-new-shop-inventory-generator

This is also an excellent idea, just need to make sure to keep tabs on it, as it's only going to be as updated as the author deems it to be.

- It's not tacky, only if you make it tacky will it be. I think it's fine, but remember... your PC's want to be at the center of attention, otherwise why are they playing? But bringing characters in and tying them to the main characters from the movie is a good way to involve both. I'd recommend seeing how Shadows of the Empire tied Dash Rendar with Luke Skywalker.

- Unless you have people who are force sensitive/trained in the force... it's going to be a right tough challenge.

- I think you can look through some blogs, or try and take some resources from regular battle droids and just beef up the stats. If you find them too weak, then buff them up with bigger stats... and if your PC's notice, just shrug and go "Upgrades".

So, first attempt at a new Han, what do people think?

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!200:18,-1,33,63:2:-1:;31:18,72:7:-1:U.140;31:18,72:7:-1:U.140&sn=NuFat%20Han

So, it's a basic Fat Han build with the EU removed because I don't need it as much to close the distance thanks to deployment shenannigans.

So, 2 Greens with PTL and Crack, but I could take 3 bandits with 7 points left over, or 2 Prototype Pilots and a Bandit.

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>>49240509
The nucanon-grade chumps are called off and the Empire sends a Legends-grade Inquisitor instead.

>>49239599
>Blizzard Force would likely have deployed the AT-ATs after they'd established air supremacy,
Tricky to do under a theater-shield. though you could tow the ties/airspeeders in through the shield with ground vehicles, but that's got its own issues.

>>49240698
Sounds like fun!

>>49237607
Thane is nice with torps and R7-T1, just don't go crazy on him. You can reasonably expect 1-2 free actions and once Biggs goes you're in trouble. A focus + TL + chip torpedo can make life much easier.

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What does /swg/ think of this Z-95?

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>>49241784
The perfect reasonably-priced fighter for the average consumer. It's economical, easily modified, easy to learn, practical, fun to fly, decently powerful for a civilian/Outer Rim pilot, and benefits from ubiquity of parts. The Mk I's swing-wings are the sort of things that grace the posters of every young boy's bedroom walls. Unlike the TIE/LN, it doesn't need proprietary landing setups and unlike the T-65 or TIE Advanced, it's affordable. It gives hope to aspiring pilots the same way old Mustangs gave hope to aspiring petrolheads.

In short, it's the perfect blend of muscle car and hot hatchback.

>>49241784
it's fat

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>>49241784
I'll let my little friends speak for me.

>>49241890
Wait, shit, I misread >>49241784

I thought you asked about the Headhunter in general. That Z-95? Meh. The canards are too small and weirdly shaped.

>>49241784
It's great. I love cheap reliable workhorses.

>>49241890
I always thought the cloakshape was the reasonably-priced fighter for the average consumer, especially with all the aftermarket upgrades you can slap on it because of it's modular construction; including a hyperdrive sled.

>>49242043
Either works, really. I mainly go for the Headhunter due to its ability to mount internal hyperdrives (easing parking), larger boot, higher maneuverability, more attractive design, and natural progression from the Incom Skyhopper. The fuckloads of modded Headhunters in Legends also point to the Z-95 being just as modular. Plus, given its ubiquity and the piles of Clone Wars milsurp lying around, the Headhunter likely has a better supply chain.

>>49241921
I'd say this >>49241784 Z-95 is a lot like the modern Mustangs. They lack a lot of the 'hard' style of the original and are too sleek and 'sports' rather than muscle.

Okay, I'm about to go play some X-wing. These are the lists that will square off:

Rebels:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!95:-1,110,-1,-1:14:-1:;29:18,72:7:1:U.150;44:36,-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

Empire:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!28:18:-1:-1:;10::-1:-1:;10::-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;56:36,23,40,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

When I get back, I'll be interested to hear who should have won. What do you think?

>>49242337
>B-Wing
>Fire-Control System
>no torpedoes

Am I missing something?

>>49241784
That looks like a tail gunner position, I like anything with a tail gunner. It's a little rounded, personally I thing it looks like a New Republic trainer craft..

Hey /swg/ I'm looking for some critiques on this Rebel fleet. I don't normally build rebel fleets but I have some rebel models and decided to give it a try.

Rebel Strike Fleet V1

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 400/400


Commander: General Rieekan

Assault Objective: Precision Strike
Defense Objective: Jamming Barrier
Navigation Objective: Salvage Run


[ flagship ] Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- General Rieekan ( 30 points)
- Weapons Liaison ( 3 points)
- Redundant Shields ( 8 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
= 119 total ship cost


MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Foresight ( 8 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 82 total ship cost


Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points)
- Slaved Turrets ( 6 points)
= 63 total ship cost


GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Expanded Hangar Bay ( 5 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 31 total ship cost


1 Han Solo ( 26 points)
1 Luke Skywalker ( 20 points)
1 Wedge Antilles ( 19 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Nym ( 21 points)

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I can't wait to pick Palpatine's corpse out of shuttle wreckage and use the latent Force energy in it to fuck with my dice.

>>49242337
My money is on the space cow

>>49242451
The Tug-master 9,000 is going to be awesome!

>>49242390
Free target lock after firing. It's common on B-Wing builds, along with Adv Sensors.

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>>49241784
It looks like the T-70 to the Z-95's T-65.

AdamKop does good stuff.

>>49226334
Dammit anon, I was drinking coffee when I read that.

>>49242624
For the rerolling of attack dice, right. Fuck I keep forgetting that attribute of target locks and just think of them as the "requirement to fire a torpedo" action.

Anyone know any good homebrew rules to make starfighter combat less awful in EotE/AotR?

>>49243822
There are a few, like making Pilot skill count as ranks of Defensive Driving and changing Defensive Driving to outright dice upgrades.

Then there's Shiels give hitpoints =SRxSil(Some have suggested SRxSilx2 but I have yet to playtest either.)

>>49243822
Use X-Wing instead?

>>49243936
Not nearly as many ships and far more space intensive.

So, someone's making an mIRC script for FFG dice over IRC, which is really great. Though hilariously apparently someone already on the server already made that as a bot.

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>>49240742
Did the shield generator prevent air support? My assumption was that it was mostly useful for defense against capital ships launching bombardments from low orbit.
I figure for the same reason they were keeping their air support in reserve in order to pick off the rebel transports as they escaped from beneath the shield dome.
>>49239008
IIRC, Legends had it that Davin Felth (the Storm Trooper Obi-Wan mind tricks on Tatooine) was demoted for pointing out the critical flaw in the AT AT and coming up with an easy defensive solution (just make the AT AT crouch down and fire on your opponent like an emplaced anti-air gun).
You can easily assume after someone successfully demonstrated the cable trick, the Empire started instituting that as standard practice.

>>49243977
>Not nearly as many ships
For fuck's sake, what are you missing!?

>>49244190
Compared to what's in the EotE/AotR/F&D? A lot.

>>49244216
EotE still doesn't have an ARC-170

>>49244216
For starfighters? You've got the "main 4" rebel ships. All the Ties worth considering that weren't just goofy one-offs (minus the Avenger, which could be substituted). And Scum fills in many of the gaps in-between with shit like G-1As, Kihraxz, and even the esoteric Starviper. A lot of shit can be proxy off of something else's dial, and/or given custom stats. The light freighter, "large ship" list could always use some bulking up. But again... proxy and custom stats will take you far.

>>49242609
If by that you mean "I bet the lambda shuttle got of at least one shot before it was reduced to three hull and the empire yielded from critical loss of TIE fighters", then you were wrong.

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>>49242451
>>49242613

I really look forward to it as well. But, is there a specific reasons why it would be good against palatine shuttle that I'm missing?

>>49243936
>Fix the RPG by playing a wargame instead

>>49244134
>Did the shield generator prevent air support? My assumption was that it was mostly useful for defense against capital ships launching bombardments from low orbit.
>I figure for the same reason they were keeping their air support in reserve in order to pick off the rebel transports as they escaped from beneath the shield dome.
Shield generator fields block ALL crossings at high altitude be they missiles or landing craft, closer to the ground they generally just fry anything not grounded by legs, wheels, or treads and otherwise tend to fuck up repulsorlifts.

So it's hypothetically possible they could have bodged together a lander and a trailer to take TIEs and airspeeders across the shield gap given time. But they'd be crossing on low to no power in the cold.

>>49242430
Not inherently bad, some changes I'd make:

Drop the weapons liaison on the AF. They do nothing. Change the redundant shields to ECM. Much better card.

Generally people like Admonition more than Foresight, but they're both good. Also seriously, find some points for ordinance experts. You need them on a MC30.

Slaved Turrets, just no. Salvation or Yavaris is much better.

Your squadrons are probably fine overall. Just keep in mind for the cost of Wedge and Luke you can take three generic x-wing squads, and they'll still take forever to kill with Jan.

I recently ran Nym and he's great with bomber command. Keep him away from enemy squads though. Two blues suck.

>>49243936
As fun as it is, at least I wouldn't want to pause an rpg to play a wargame for 2 hours, especially since there would probably be a few players not involved. Not to mention having to get models for everything you'd want to introduce.

Exception would be if the whole party was ace pilots in some sort of starfighter-focused campaign.

>>49242430
Also with all those evade defenses you have, at least consider Mon Mothma. She'll make your ships survive much better in the first place, rather than letting them shoot after your dead. She's also great with Foresight.

>>49244372
Why not?
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/2/the-decoder/

>>49244484
My assumptions was that the rebels had more anti-air cannons that would pick of any bombers, light transports or fighter escorts, while the Ion batteries would make short work of any heavy transports. That would explain why they set down on ground a distance away and walked in.

>>49244609
Nah, you just can't get stuff through the top of the shield for direct landings, (Note that Veers called in Vader's extra landing party as the shield was about to go down but before the Ion cannon was down.)

So me and my group just played through the FaD beginner adventure and we decided on continuing it with making new characters or changing the premade one we picked for the adventure.

I played Kaveri, the seeker, and enjoyed the characters nomad background influenced my RP and the whole "You're a jedi now Harry".

Do I need to change anything on her skills, characteristics or such to make her more viable to play or is she good to go?

>>49244366
It has less to do with the ship itself and more with the illicit upgrade that comes with it (Scavenger Crane?) that is rumored to allow you to take an upgrade from destroyed enemy ships.
I doubt that it would be good for Palpatine shuttles since you need to kill the shuttle first and I don't think it will allow you to take crew upgrades anyways, probably just modifications/system upgrades.
Although it would be cool if it allowed you to use modifications that you don't normally have the requisites for.

>>49245489
Wait, seriously? That sounds fun as fuck. How much of it is speculation and how much is people decoding the fine print in the preview? I can't read that for shit.

>>49243822
The folders in the OP have a few different varieties.

>>49244905
Assuming you pick Hunter specialization, then everything as-is in terms of characteristics, skills, and force powers, are fine, both in terms of xp cost and also how they xp spent are in logical places for a hunter-type character. But just a note that you should also potentially have some XP to spend on, depending on your resources (Duty/Obligation/Morality) and what you do with them.

>>49245536
Its squinters filling in what they think would make the most sense from the fine print.
Here's whats visible:
Illicit: Scav
C
After a ship
destroyed,
discarded
or Modification
that
ship and
roll 1 att
result,
Scav
And this is what people on the FFG forums think it will most likely say:
Illicit: Scav[enged]
C[argo]
After a ship [at Range 1 is]
destroyed, [choose 1 of its]
discarded [Illicit Upgrades]
or Modification [Upgrades. Equip]
that [upgrade to your]
ship and [then]
roll 1 att[ack die. On a H]
result, [discard]
Scav[enged Cargo.]

Does the Ranged Defense of an armor stack with the Defensive Quality from a weapon?

>>49245618
I think it will be "Scavenger Crane" instead of "Scavenged Cargo," mostly because the picture on the card is clearly the cargo crane from the top of the Quadjumper that is illustrated in >>49244366
Furthermore I hope its you take a "Systems Upgrade or Modification" and not "an Illicit Upgrade or Modification"
Why would I use an Illicit upgrade to get an Illicit upgrade?

>>49244484
Ah! For some reason I was under the confused impression that the Generator protected the whole planet, or at least a large chunk of it, but it sounds like it just protected the area around Echo Base and general environs, correct?
There *are* planetary shields in Star Wars right? I thought that was basically the point of the Death Star, you can do significant damage to a planet with a group of capital ships but the Death Star has a laser strong enough to punch through a shield and destroy a planet in a single shot to boot.
>>49244905
I'm jealous. For some reason my friends all don't want to be Jedi.

>>49245706
>Why would I use an Illicit upgrade to get an Illicit upgrade?
If scavenger crane/cargo costs 1 or 0 points I could see why.

>>49245718
A full planetary shield takes multiple generators and projectors working to overlap their coverage areas/fuse them at the edits.

The rebels could only afford/capture one projector and one power core.

>>49245489
>Destroy a ship with a shield or hull upgrade
>Get an extra shield or hull
Oh yes chef, I can feel it.

>>49245536
It's partially squinting, but the concrete half is a Spanish distributor preview that mentions stealing upgrades, though it doesn't show which card, that illicit seems to fit the bill.

>>49245618
>>49245706

If that's what it is I think it might end up one of those cards that you very rarely actually get an opportunity to use. Still worth it for 1-0 points.

>>49245702
Defensive only counts for melee defence, Deflective counts for ranged defence, Armour defence counts for both and I think it stacks. Your charactor's defense does not stack with cover but rather uses the highest value of the two, in a similar vein when wielding two weapons with defensive then you use the highest value of the two. At least I think that's how it works.

>>49245902
So my player with an armor that provides 1 Defense for both Ranged and Melee with a sword that has Defensive effectivly has 1 Ranged Defense and 2 Melee Defense, yes?

>>49245924
Yeah

>>49245936
Thanks famalamadingdong

>>49245702
Per the book, yes. Devs introduced a change about a year ago when asked about it, mostly because of dice bloat concerns, but then rescinded it and basically said "Uh, we've got to think on it more," when it was pointed out that the way they said it should be was different than how the book specifies, and haven't yet said what their current stance on it is.

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Reminder that Boba Fett is a nerd.

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>>49246320
>yfw people gives that nerd credit for your role.

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>>49246320
If you say so.

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>>49246320
>>49246385
>yfw multiple people claiming to be you, and you've never seen their pasty white faces in the mirror before

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>>49246320
>a nerd
Sometimes, the nerdy-looking guy really is the most dangerous motherfucker in the room.

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>>49246420
Is that the Burn Notice Guy's character from Sicario?

>>49246320
of course he's a nerd

a bounty-hunting, disintegration-methods nerd

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Guess who just got himself a treat

>>49246468
Goddamit italianfag.

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>>49246463
If the character is supposed to be Mike Vining, then yes.

>>49246463
Nah, it's just that every CIA op requires a Combat Accountant, it's SOP.

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>>49246482

>>49246468
Great, kid! Don't get cocky.

Any advice on my Imperial fleet /swg/?

Imperial Strike Fleet "Hammer of Wrath" V2

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400


Commander: Admiral Screed

Assault Objective: Precision Strike
Defense Objective: Fire Lanes
Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory


[ flagship ] Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points)
- Admiral Screed ( 26 points)
- XX-9 Turbolasers ( 5 points)
- Overload Pulse ( 8 points)
= 124 total ship cost


Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 71 total ship cost


Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 61 total ship cost


Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Expanded Hangar Bay ( 5 points)
= 49 total ship cost


Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Expanded Hangar Bay ( 5 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 36 total ship cost


1 TIE Advanced Squadron ( 12 points)
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons ( 22 points)
1 TIE Bomber Squadron ( 9 points)
1 Major Rhymer ( 16 points)

>>49246420
Issat Vining himself there or just someone else like him?

>>49246857
According to Google reverse image search, it's him.

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SWX58?

>>49247724
Either a huge ship, something related to Rebels that they're not allowed to announce until after a certain episode airs; or both. If it ends up being both, then the ship might potentially be one they'll use for the missing SWM20 for Armada as well. Probably Thrawn-related is my guess.

>>49247724
Pinook pls FFG

>>49245761
I'm betting its going to be 0 cost if it is illicit and mods. Its fairly dependent on you're opponent taking certain cards and is then tricky too pull off in game.

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>>49247724
whaladons when?

>>49248585
Fingers crossed for a Scum Huge.
Toes crossed that it's an Action VI, with a Wild Karrde Title.

>>49249214
>tfw you just noticed one of the guys has a fucking sea captain hat

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>>49250077
You know it

So has no one have the TFA Beginner Game?

>>49250447
I do.

>>49250512
I mean like put it up for download?

Is predator and Dengar on the same ship too much?

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Hey there /swg/! I'm a long time lurker. Unfortunately I've been traveling the US for a while and haven't had access to stable internet to view you guys, and I was wondering if someone could catch me up with any major things that have happened in/for star wars since I left. The last thing I remembered was that Ahsoka Tano was going to show up in Star Wars Rebels or something? Did that end up happening? Thanks you guys!

>>49250997
She did and it was awesome. Go watch it!

>>49247724
Its the gunboat, no doubt about it.

>>49250779
Considering you can't reroll the same die twice, absolutely.
Even if you could, it's somewhat redundant and sort of a waste of points (admittedly a funny one)

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>That one ship you want in X-Wing but will probably never have
The N-1 would probably send the FFG forums into a rabid rage. I didn't bother checking to see the reaction to the ARC but it was probably pretty bad.

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>>49251378
Obi Wan and Anakin's ship from the beginning of episode 3.

>>49251378

If they ever release a TIE Hunter, they have a guaranteed sale from me, just for the sake of the mini.

In fact, I'm probably going to buy a U-Wing just so I can put that little fucker on my desk and play with the wings.

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>>49251378
I can dream

>>49251378
Eh, everything sets the FFG forums off to be fair and they weren't that mad about Arcs (probably because everyone loves Arcs)
You know I used to be all for pre-GCW ships and factions in X-wing but after thinking about it I would almost prefer it if they got their own spin off game with different mechanics and larger standard size for fights (due to the nature of the setting). Maybe they could some way to implement force powers since all of the Aces from the clone war era would either be Sith or Jedi. Also a fundamental difference between how the separate factions would be a cool way to separate it from X-wing.
I don't know I'm not a game designer.

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>>49251378
Because who doesn't love it when the girl next hangar puts on her little black dress?

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>>49251378
>>49251516
>>49251546
>>49251618
>>49251717
I feel like the N-1 has the best shot because it's shown up in ROTJ and in a comic that takes place after ROTJ. So it's technically active canonically.

>>49251809
>>49251378
Too yellow. I love the design, but the colour-scheme is a mess.

I want to throw a shout out to Covenant, in Tulsa. They're a super friendly group of guys that have been super nice both times I've gone in while I'm learning X-wing, and they never pressure me to buy anything, which means I wind up buying stuff while I'm in there. If you're in the area, give 'em a gander.

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>>49251884
That's why paint exists.

>>49251378
C-73 tracker and skipray blastboat
Alternately, the Kaloth Battlecruiser for armada

>>49251884
That's why you do two things.
1: Replace the chrome with gold, you're not RSF, you haven't earned the honor of the chrome nose.
2: Ditch the yellow, throw a little hot rod red in there.

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>>49251378

>>49251253
if you have 3+attack dice its a permanent targetlock essentially and probably worth it. There aren't any ships that will trigger both abilities extra dice.

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>>49252079

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>>49252109

>>49251378
given they make a brief appearance in the OT and are one of the big iconic SW ships its only a matter of time before we get them.

>>49251923
I've found X-wing communities all over the country to be welcoming and friendly. I wonder if the higher median age of players has something to do with it?

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>>49251619
>You buy squadrons which sit on stands like pic related
>but they're in scale with X-wing
>two to three ships per blister, about $40 per blister, each good for one squad
>squadron cards organised similarly to Armada, similar price entry point
>but with the same dial/action order of X-wing
Would you play it?

>>49251809
Call me a blind, garden variety scrub, but where does it show up in RotJ?

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>>49251717
You were saying?

>>49252483
at the end where they show celebrations on various planets. one is Naboo and there's some N1s doing a flyby.

>>49252673
Meh, not really a fan and not the same as an F-22 in space. That N-1 is too much the stuffy rich girl for me. It's like getting a black Lamborghini or Alfa, or tamely clapping at the Academy Awards. Why bother? She's the sort of craft that looks better the more flamboyant she gets.

>>49252432
That's cute, the TIE's on the right are wearing pretty red bow ties. D'awww.

>>49251378
Arc was well received. A lot of people were happy to see it.

>>49253070
the general feeling i get is that people dislike the acting or writing of the prequals. the ships and space battles that appeared in them are generally liked.

>>49253121
Except for the N1, and the royal ship, I agree with that. The N1 I dislike because the R2 unit has to decapitate itself. It's a victim of Lucas having too much control over ship design, and not listening to the designers when they say "this won't work".

>>49253253
I always figured if they just modified it so the Astromech goes in sideways so it's shoulders are parallel with the cockpit then it'd fit.

>>49253253
why does the r2 have too decapitate itself?
isnt it just pulled up from an opening under the craft.

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>>49253494
It does.
And the it decapitates itself.

>>49253494
When they designed it they forgot to include room for the 'shoulder' jounts on an R2's arms/legs

>>49253579
>>49253551
Wouldn't it make more sense for the legs to come off than the head? I feel like they've found the most mechanically complex solution to the problem.

>>49253551
>>49253579
oh shit. lol never noticed that.

still seems an easy fix for the mini if it really bugs you.

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>>49252034
>calls himself Red and Gold N-1
>never posts his Red and Gold N-1

>>49253253
How do you know that was lucas? And a telescoping neck isn't such a bad thing.

>>49254067
It was bad therefore it must have been Lucas.

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>>49251378
Scimitar Assault Bomber. I feel like without nu-canon we would have gotten it eventually too, since it shows up a fair bit in the Thrawn books. Now I doubt it, and the Punisher is basically the Imperial bomber with boost now, which is I imagine the niche it would fill.

Still would have loved to have gotten it though, it's been one of my favorites since I got the Essential Guide to Starships back when I was like 10.

Also seriously, there's no good art. I'd love to see some FFG-quality art of it.

>>49254665
it looks like a robot dildo with solar panels on it.

>>49254728
The fighter and interceptor are just anal beads. That's why there's so many of them.

>>49254665
you could probably make one based on some bombrr bits and just counts as it as a bomber/punisher. i doubt anyone would mind in casual games and even in tourneys conversions are allowed if they're not confusing.

>>49254665
Wasn't Thrawn also the one who placed shields on his Tie Interceptors and Fighters due to him stating how foolhardy it was to loose such capable pilots so quickly in Palpatine's doctrines?

I'd feel pretty good flying under his banner in the Remnant.

shenkem benkem Anakin Skywalker pilot card when

>>49255269
He gets to barrel roll three time a turn, no question.

>>49255269
FFG have said they're not going to do prequel era.
We won't get Phantom menace characters.

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>>49226541
I found one on the BGG website once. I'll write it out.

Free For All Deathmatch:

>Play Area:
standard 3x3
>Initiative:
Everyone throws 3 attack dice. Most hits and crits takes initative, second highest goes second, ect. Initiative stays the same the entire game
>Obstacles:
6, which stay during the entire game
>Set up:
Players choose 1 board edge. The entire game, that player will enter the game on that board edge
>Factions:
Players choose 1 faction at the start of the game. They only play ships of that faction for the entire game

Players start with 15 squad build points.
When your entire fleet is destroyed, you gain 5 squad build points.
When you destroy a players entire fleet, you gain 5 squad build points.
At the end of each round, check if anyone has 100 (or any other agreed upon number) squad build points. If so, they won. If not, another round starts.
If you fly your own ship off the board, you loose 15 points. (to prevent people suiciding and denying points)

>>49253551
>>49253253
Do you think the droids are programmed to feel pain, /swg/? Do the look at N1s in fear of what they know is about to happen?

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>>49255993

>>49255993
Well, they're clearly feeling pain at the beginning of Return of the Jedi; to the point that Jabba had a torture droid and a whole torture chamber just built for droids, so yeah... droids to feel and get affected by pain.

Which is weird, because the thing we watch get tortured in RotJ is a mobile power droid. Why put pain receptors in a battery?!?

>>49256219
Same reason you have pain receptors yourself - to warn you you are in danger of injury or death.

This makes a lot of sense for a mobile battery, because then it can shut down instead of overloading and blowing itself, your ship, and all the armaments inside your ship to pieces.

I picked up Armada as a side game with the intention of playing imperials and proxying/borrowing upgrades.

I got a core, ISD, interdictor, and imperial fighters. I also picked up liberty since it was on sale.

What can I build with these?

>>49256219
>>49256257
Clearly the droid designers are twisted sadists who want to cause pain without any of the moral quandaries that come with organics.

>>49251378
You should have seen the bitchfits people threw over Imperial Assault getting Obi-Wan and Greedo, all because the core IA campaign takes place (immediately) after A New Hope.

>>49251378
How would an N1 be statted.
First thought is a 2/3/2/2 ship. But that might stepping on the wings toes too much. Would a different dial, torps and astromech instead of missiles with barrel roll instead of boost be enough of a difference?

>>49256478
>barrel roll

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlhgAkJBos

>>49256478
Make it 2 across the board with an evade action so it's not as dodgy as the A but more than the Z. Maybe even a title that gives a free evade after rolling.

It could fit in as a cheap torpedo carrier or support ship with Leia and Shara pilots.

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What is this craft meant to be? It can't be the Royal Bomber, it looks nothing like it.

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>>49256772
For reference this and >>49252109 this is the Royal Bomber.

>>49255858
Is that why the ARC comes with A-Wing and X-Wing pilots instead of clones or other random people?

>>49256219
There was an explanation for this in the old visual dictionary. I can't remember what it is though.

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>>49256478
>>49256767
I saved this from a thread a few editions ago. I thought it was a decent attempt.

>>49257121
Wasn't there someone with quite the body of work for Clone Wars stuff?

He posted here sometimes.

>>49257121
>Queen Sorana

who?

>Leia
>flying an N-1

>>49256313
>>49256257
>>49256219
>>49255993
>>49256103
There's a short story explaining it. The head torturer installed those pain circuits out of a twisted curiosity.

>>49257289
Ohoho. You're far behind on the Nucanon, friend.

>>49257303
Redpill me. What happens?

>>49257104
Pretty much yeah, we have the arc as it was during the rebellion flown by rebel pilots. Its old clonewars surplus like the ywing and z95.

>>49257328
>Redpill
I would have, but you had to go and use 'redpill'

>>49257328
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_Cinder

>>49257349
Ah.

I don't get it though, why was Naboo demilitarized? It was Sheev's homeworld, surely he respected it as he did in the old EU where he built his summer palace there.

>>49257328
In short empire goes after naboo, leia is there on a diplomatic mission and her, the Queen and a couple others are the only pilots available to fly some old n1s, cue n1 vs tie fighters battle, n1s come out ontop (just). Its in one of the recent comics.

>>49257121
Ps8 seems a little high for a diplomat.

>>49257458
Diplomat? Try more like general, politician, resistance fighter/organizer, and latent force user. Han and Luke may have been the "heroes", but Leia practically ran the fucking Rebellion.

>>49257513
Yeah she did a lot, but being a highly skilled ace isn't one of those.

The force would help her but only so much, ps 6 ish seems better for a pilot without combat experience but some force shenanigans.

>>49257617
Alas, FFG assigned Shara to the PS6 slot.

>>49257513
Yeah but none of those are "fighter pilot".
I'm sure she can handle herself in a fighter, but I see her more at PS 5-7 rather than 8

>>49257651
Ps5 then, shes a general not an experienced ace.
Hell kyles a full blown jedi and he's only ps6.

>>49257682
Drop the generic and do it like the ARC. Make up somebody to fill the PS7/8 slot.

How many years of service as a naval officer do you think it takes on average before you get to captain your own star destroyer? Or in other words, what's the average starting age of a star destroyer captain

>>49257617
She's a main character. All main characters get high PS values. No difference there. Plus someone's got to be the "7 through 9" pilot.

>>49257667
That we know of.

Also the guffin with Kyle Katarn, is he even said that Jan was a better pilot than him.

>>49257667
Wasn't she flying an N1 in one of the comics?

>>49258289
>All main characters get high PS values. No difference there.
No they don't, chewie and sabine are only 5, ezra is only ps4.

>Plus someone's got to be the "7 through 9" pilot
Sure, but it should be someone who's actually a really good pilot.

>>49258289
>heroes of the resistance chewie

>>49258315
Just being able too fly in combat doesn't make you an ace.

She flew because they desperately needed everyone who could. She's fired blasters but that doesn't make her a soldier either.

>>49258363
What about that guy from the Starfighter Game?

>>49258201
I think you can look at average time-in-grade for United States and Commonwealth navy officers. Extrapolate how long it takes an officer candidate to go through all his schooling, whether that's Academy or public school and then Academy, and then use the time-in-grade to see how long it takes an officer to reach Captain grade, and whether it's actually Captains commanding Star Destroyers, or if it's just a courtesy title, like it is in the USN for the officers in charge of a ship.

>>49234193
DIE Wings. Uglies.

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>>49223343
What sort of plot hooks would make for a good Repulic Commandos/Sheevy P's private clean-up team campaign?

>>49258388
Chewie's not a main character. He's a (british-term) bat-man.

>>49258363
>Talonbane Cobra is PS 9. And he was a chump early-level mob in Galaxies. For that matter, Jek Porkins is a 7, and all he did was crash spectacularly, while Biggs is a 5 and survived until the (3rd attempt) trench run and was one of the final pilots remaining.

I could see Leia as PS 7, based upon her role in the comic.

>>49258406
X-Wing and Tie Fighter? Keyan Farlander and Marek Steele are both PS 7.

>>49258464
That's not a bad idea at all anon, thanks. Though I guess an ISD is more like a carrier than a RL destroyer? Or well, hybrid

>>49258388
Chewie (and Kyle Katarn that someone else mentioned) are much more co-pilots than actual pilots.
Not too familiar with X-Wing, but I can see the Force-sensitive daughter of one of the best pilots in the entire history of Star Wars, and wife to Han "probably gave her pointers" Solo being a very good pilot. Maybe not THE BEST pilot, but there's basis for her being more than just decent.

>>49258928
I get that, but PS2 is decent. 8 is among the best in the galaxy second only too the likes of han or darth vadar. Leia is 5 or 6 at best.

>>49259056
7. She's not a mechanic co-pilot, and not doom-guy who says he's not good at flying. 7 is where I'd put her. Probably one of the few reasons she didn't fly much, was because she was one of the main rebellion leaders and it'd be like putting Patton in the leading boat headed to Normandy.

>>49258886
The way I have it organized is that Imperial class Star Destroyers fall into a sort of hybrid cruiser/battleship/carrier role. They're good for force projection and bringing Imperial will to bear against singular systems or worlds, and they're more than capable of handling themselves in a slugging match between ships smaller, the same size, and even a bit bigger.

Like, obviously you wouldn't want one against an Executor or Eclipse, but even if she's fighting a Mon Cal Star Cruiser or two, she'll either come out on top, or go down swinging brutally hard. Stuff like the Tartan, Lancer, and Raider fill out corvette, destroyer, and frigate roles in our IRL navies. Coastal interdiction, picket duty, trade inspection, etc. Victories are used for less valuable systems inside solid Imperial space, as consorts and escorts for Imperials in enemy territory, and for policing duties and whatnot, as second-line, older ships.

(Caveat: That's all personal headcanon supported by what I've read from what's now the EU (rip), as much as I hate the term, and you're free to make up your own or use mine, or ignore it entirely.)

>>49259056
Oh fair, like I said I don't KNOW X-Wings beyond the basics. Yeah if Han and Vader are 9, I'd ballpark her around 6 or 7 just on gut, especially if the skill is also supposed to represent general mind for tactics and not just "how good do they fly a ship" alone.

>>49259124
Aren't Rebellion era MonCal Cruisers kinda shit because they were basically converted luxury liners?

>>49259133

If they did a Leia pilot card and she was PS 7, that would be hilarious. Doubly so if they do eventually do that Resistance shuttle thing with old-lady Leia and she keeps the same skill.

Because Kylo Ren is only PS 6

New to /swg/. What's a good big-guy race that isn't a Wookiee? I want to play a >big guy but something other than space bigfoot.

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>>49259276

The Lasat fit that criteria I guess, although they still kind of give off a bigfoot vibe

>>49259133
Pretty much my thoughts, although I lean towards 7.

Basically PS 1 is considered gutter trash pilot, pirate scum, fresh from the academy cannon-fodder, or the ship handles like a rabid Canadian Goose. PS 2-3 is the realm of "basic, run of the mill pilot who might be a low-end veteran". PS 4-5 is veteran nameless rank and file soldier, with 5-6 being named middle-rung pilots and all pilot droids (due to lack of instinct, and predictable nature).

7 and 8 are named ace pilots, with 9 being top of the fucking line Vaders, Wedges, and Hans of the galaxy.

Interesting thing to note about 7, 8, and 9, is how fluid that region is for a pilot's skill rating. Adaptability and Veteran Instincts adjusts those numbers (usually up)... With the value being worth less the higher you go. PS 9 pilots therefore gain very little by jumping up to 11, and are free(er) to grab skills like Predator or Push the Limit. Meanwhile PS 7 and 8 has a lot of incentive to bump itself up to "the big boys" level. So those three PS levels are more of a "pick your pilot/ability", and adjust their skill or take an EPT as necessary. For example, Vader and Juno Eclipse are PS 9 and 8 respectively. But Vader gets two actions, while Juno can adjust the speed of her maneuver... The end result, is it boils down more to what you want your top-ace Tie Advanced to do, as opposed to PS number.

>>49259238
That would be fitting for Darth Emo.