MTG Kaladesh Spoilers

>>49208780

I think 6 mana nissa will see play.

>>49208814
She's only 5 mana

>>49208825
I think he means the planeswalker deck nissa and if that is the case then he is crazy.

>>49208825
he's talking about the precon one, because he's dumb.

>>49208825
There's also a 6 mana Nissa but if that anon really think's she'll see play then he's delusional.

>>49208814
Wizards has a hard enough time making cards strong enough to see play in the real world they WANT to be played. I doubt a card they're intentionally making bad would manage.

>>49208876
To be fair most of the strongest cards wizards has made haven't been intended to be such.

>>49208898
There's a difference between unknowingly making a good card and purposefully making a bad card and it ending up being good. I thought I worded my post carefully to imply the latter.

>>49208921
You did but I think you have too much faith in wizards design not to accidentally do exactly what they were trying not to do.

>>49208944
It's a lot easier to intentionally make a bad card than unintentionally make a good one

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Post your 3 favorite cards so far.

>>49208978
All I'm saying is that I think at some point in the future someone will mess up and there will be an intro deck planeswalker that is standard playable.

>>49208780

Nightsoil reprint when?

>>49209008
>metallurgic summonings
>In top 3 favorite cards
shit taste tbqh famalamadingdong

>>49209008
>Skysovereign
>Torrential Gearhulk
>Madcap Experiments

Honorable mention goes to the modules.

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>>49209027
Seems exploitable and fun

>>49209008
Chandra, Fennec artifact and new fastlands and if I can't chose fastlands than I'll go with Demon of Dark Schemes.

>>49209113
Slim Shady Demon is pretty fun.

>>49208780
Just happy to see dwarves back along with inclusion of vehicle cards. Now reveal meld and this'll be another favourite set of mine.

>>49209127
If energy gets just a but more strong cards he'll be better than massacre wurm while the card was in standard. I'm happy that he's not hype because I can buy some foils cheap for me deck, before he rises.

>>49209157
If there are at least 4 things in play that die when he enters and there is something good to resurrect he is really good by himself too.

All the designs so far have knocked it out of the park. Energy is really cool and feels like it adds a totally new layer to the game. I hope it will return. Vehicles are also very different and my first impression is that they will be very fun to play with. Perhaps even powerful in some cases. Fabricate is much more simple and subtle but the choices it gives you always make it interesting and sort of responsive to the game depending on what you need right now, more power on a single creature or more creatures.

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>>49209008
Torch Chandra
Voltaic Brawler
Green hulk

>>49209008
Filigree Familiar
Aerial Responder
Madcap Experiment

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>>49209008
Skyship
Who doesn't want a pimp ass Skyship, that only needs an average Bear and some baseline grunt to operate?

Gonti
You get to deny your enemy a card, and can even use it yourself. Repeatable if there is some flicker effect.

Demon of Dork Schemes
I like graveyard shenanigans.

Listing in no particular order. Even though the place for the demon is more contested than the other 2. Metallurgic Summonings or Rashmi could have gone there, among other things.

>>49209454
>Play a demon
>-2/-2 across the board
>Activate the ability, reanimate another demon
>-4/-4 across the board
>Opponent's shit dies
>Both demons trigger off the deaths
>It rains energy

What is the difference in usage between "all other creatures" "each other creature" and "other creatures"?

how many displays have you ordered?

>>49209552
Depends on the effect. An overrun is each. A wrath is all.

>>49209552

Generally just readability; there's no mechanical distinction between those phrases, but some abilities roll better if you think of them as happening to each creature in turn, some roll better if you think of them as happening to all creatures as a blanket thing.

>>49209454
>Gonti
>You get to deny your enemy a card
This is one of the dumbest things I've read today.

>>49209713
I think what gonti does is vastly overestimated or misunderstood in general. It really just chalks up to look at top 4 and draw a card which is better than just draw a card but still.

>>49209713
Technically he's right... If the deck is one of the ones that runs, say, Old'mrakul as a one-of and you manage to hit it.

Most of the time that aspect won't be at all relevant though, yeah. It's not something that should be listed as a plus of the card.

>genderless magical special snowflake beings
>Indians everywhere
>Chandra shaping up to be a dyke
>some random dyke is a character in the narrative
When did Wizards get so cucked?

>>49209834
>Only important male in the storyline of Kaladesh so far is an evil cis white(?) male
pottery

>>49209834

>Indians everywhere

...It's a fucking plane inspired by India. What were you expecting, France?

>>49209834
Don't forget Jace is gay for Gideon.

Why can't everyone leave me alone to SUCK DICKS IN PEACE

>>49209915
I thought he was already gay for Ral.

>>49209915
Everyone is gay for gideon. He has that charisma. Every sapient being the galaxy wants to be penetrated by his beefslab.

>>49209926

Even the name is merely a way for Liliana to openly crave that spicy grecian sausage while looking above it all.

>>49209951
She wants it the most. His not wearing a shirt just enflames her loins. No one in any fictional universe can resist Buff McLargehuge.

>>49209914
I can't wait for him to start shitposting about all the fucking middle easterners in the egyptian plane.

>>49209489
>panharmonicon
>everything -8/-8
>even greenhulk dies
>both demons survive
>laugh at your enemies' boardstates

>>49209834
>Chandra shaping up to be a dyke
When did this happen? I'm not complaining, lesbians are hot, Chandra especially, but I never heard of this happening.

>>49210080
At the end of the OGW storyline, when Nissa and Chandra teamed up to combine their powers and take down the two titans on Zendikar, they formed a close bond or connection and it's been "hinted" at ever since that they're more than just friends.

>>49208876
>the +1/-1 on skull skull clamp was added as a downside

>>49210112
They were trying to make it worse, not building a bad card from the ground up.

>>49210112
>Darksteel was 12 years ago

>>49210080
>When did this happen? I'm not complaining, lesbians are hot, Chandra especially, but I never heard of this happening.
Since the end of Battle for Zendikar where Nissa used her magic touch on Chandras special spot making Chandra release a super explosion of fire that killed the Eldrazi and left her weak in the knees and barely able to walk.

>>49210107
Huh. Oh well. It's almost like her entire backstory in the purifying flames was entirely retco- Oh wait.

Man, I liked her and Giddyon having a relationship where they simultaneously want to jump each other's bones, but can't stand their personalities. It actually developed in a not shit way, and they both came out better at the end of the story than they were before.

>>49210147

>>49210194
l-lewd

>>49210194

Don't forget that she spilled her spaghetti when she tried to talk to her about it before jumping off to Kaladesh, and now Nissa is chasing after her.

>>49210138
>>49210112
Common misconception. They weren't trying to make it worse. It was changed from +1/+1 to +1/-1 to make it better, but last minute.

>>49210273
>>49210194
As a lesbian, I now have reason to read the lore.

>>49210312
>thanks wizards! I will now upvote your product on social media.

>>49210194
They went out with a bang.
Nissa really wants to give Chandra her wood.
Nissa saw Chandra doing her thing and thought she was hot stuff.
Seeing Nissa makes Chandra hot under the collar.
As above, but reverse.
Chandra ignited Nissa's passion.
Chandra saw Nissa and thought she was the only person hotter than herself.
As above, but reverse.

Okay, I think I'm done.

>captcha images with trees
it knows

>>49210336
More like attend prerelease with my wife

I'll admit, I'm a bit surprised by the blue one. I'd have pegged that as the red one if I just knew the effect.

>>49210220

I still get the impression Gideon and Chandra kinda have a thing, it's just that it hasn't been as prominent as the writing starts working on the four-person dynamic of the Gatewatch.

>>49210361
don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again

>>49210387
Me and my friend refer to it as "Snapcaster's Fat Uncle."
It doesn't have quite the punch of his nephew, who's younger and more spry, but he sure as hell is trying.

>>49210391

Chandra is likely bi because that's her character.

>>49210400
Dude I don't think my wife has any kids senpai. That sort of thing doesn't happen by accident.

>>49210421
wtf i really identify with chandra now

>>49210445
I think having kids is exactly the sort of thing that happens by accident.

>>49209008
>Voltaic Brawler
>Rashmi
>Panharmonicon

Honorable Mentions: Gonti because I'm a sucker for good and abusable ETB effects, Saheeli because she's a cute and Torrential Gearhulk because MUH MECHA SNAP.

>>49210456
Not if you're gay. Then it takes a lot of planning.

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>>49208780
>blue is the worst one

>>49210554
Hey, we haven't seen how they're gonna shit on red yet.

>>49210578
Probably gonna be haste and an Act of Treason effect

>>49210578

Red has been getting good shit this set. The red one might deal 6 damage to target player and each creature he controls.

>>49210578
So far, green feels like an overglorified Sandsteppe Mastodon with options, white is Duneblast Bot, and blue is Snap-fatty. Which implies to me we're gonna get reprints of almost-mythic level effects on a fatty.
>>49210607
>>49210608

These fellas have the right idea.

>>49208780
I'm getting flashbacks to the titans. They're so pushed relative to everything else at that CMC I can see them edging out everything else at that slot. Hope I'm wrong.
Best thread theme, though.

>>49210554
What? Blue is easily the most pushed one. Flash is infinitely better than the other shit.

>>49210657

You could make a cycle of instants, have blue be head and shoulders the best in that cycle while the other four are terrible, and people will still say Blue got shafted if that instant wasn't a counterspell.

>>49210107
Elf Hitler likes the planeswalker that's a living oven?

Golly that makes no sense atvall.

>>49208780
Wtf
Does that mean that I can plop down those +1/+1 on the hulk itself?
Can I have a 8/8 with trample for 5 mana?

>>49210607
>Probably gonna be haste and an Act of Treason effect
just

>>49210711
like pottery

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>Honorable mention
Speedway Fanatic, but i'm pretty sure that there are going to be other creatures that do things when they crew. The flavor on her is great though.

As for my top three, Build-A-Bear Lord is pretty cool and generally useful for future EDH stuffs. Magic Brann Bronzebeard will obviously lead to some fun interactions. Ovalchase Dragster just looks cool and i'm always a fan of Ball Lightnings

>>49210768
If you want to use the card like a pleb, sure.

>>49210768

You can, though that's the least of what you can do with it.

Still, if nothing else is available it's a nice cheap beater.

>>49210796
What do you mean. It's a 8/8 trample for 5 mana.

>>49210836
And when it dies you lose 8 power. Think of it like Wolfir Silverheart- put the counters on something else, making two good creatures instead of one big target.

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>Madcap Experiment out a Platinum Angel for 4 mana
>entire deck is dedicated to keeping that angel alive until your opponent decks himself

>>49210864
I guess you are right actually. Sorry I am sort of bad at magic.

>>49210901
There will probably be times where it'll be good to stack it up too if you need something to just overpower your opponents' creatures and you know/think your opponent has no removal.It's a card that'll work well in different situations.

>>49210836
If you already have another creature that can attack, then you can say it's half haste if you didn't put the counters on itself.

>>49210657
>>49210688
what instants would it want to hit in standard right now anyways? i was thinking madcap experiment interacted nicely until i realzed it's a sorcery. (it still interacts nicely just not as dumb as if you could flash it back with the hulk.)

and rather, what instants are impactful enough you'd want to flash them back with this guy to avoid him just being a vanilla 5/6 with flash?

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>>49210901
Don't sweat it, everyone on /tg/ is bad at magic

>>49211019
It would also be nuts if you could hit pore over the pages, since it would then be a 4 mana draw 3 discard 1 put a 5/6 into play. As it is I think scour the lab is the best card to hit right now.

>>49211019
Hm, let's see...

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&block=|[%22Battle%20for%20Zendikar%22]|[%22Shadows%20over%20Innistrad%22]&type=+[%22Instant%22]

...Yeah, you're right. Doesn't seem like there's anything worth the time. I guess we'll have to just wait and see if any good instants get printed in Kaladesh.

>>49210881
I want to do this

>>49210881
are you around gA, am I correct in assuming that state-based actions are not checked until the spell is finished resolving so you could technically go into a negative life total and hit Plat Angel to survive?

>>49211157
You take the damage after the creature is on the board so it doesn't matter.

>>49211157
Not him, but you are quite correct. This trick works with Platinum Emperion as well.

>>49211091
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but

>anguished unmaking
allright you've got my attention. People have been trying to make esper control work too

>>49210881
>tfw when we never got Mirrodin Pure so we never got the Darksteel Angel
just fuck my shit up

>>49210361
Do you attend every event that includes references to your sexuality?

>>49211257
Who wouldn't?

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>>49210554
Cry more

>>49211281
People who have an identity beyond who they like to fuck. Healthy, well rounded people with balanced interests. So, no one who posts on this site.

>>49210607
>its act of treason but it does 2 damage to the creature

>>49211321
I was joking jeez

>>49211354
As was I.

>>49210608
Black will be ETB destroy target creature or planeswalker.

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>>49208780

>>49209008
CAN SKYSOVEREIGN
BE
MY
COMMANDER

>>49211491
Sadly, it's not a creature

>>49209008
In no particular order:
Verdurous Gearhulk
Animation Module
Slim Shady Demon

Honorable mention to the enemy fastlands.

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>>49211506
FUCK YOUUUUUU

>>49211536
Chill out, it's pretty obvious that it wouldn't be one.

>>49211491
nigga just houserules that shit

>>49210881
Should emporior work too since it's out before the damage is dealt?

>>49208780
Pipe Dream

Red Gearhulk- 2RR
Haste
When ~ enters the battlefield it does 2 damage divided as you choose to up to two target creatures.
4/4

Realistic
Red Gearhulk - 4RR
When ~ enters the battlefield it does 4 damage to target creature or player
6/6

>>49212040
>creatures
>4/4
Holy fuck you are one cucked anon, that shit should be bolting robo that can divide that damage to creatures or players with the haste. Its fucking red, not blue.

>>49208780
>Volcanic Gearhulk
>5RR
>Haste
>When Volcanic Gearhulk enters the battlefield, exile the top card of your library. You may cast that card without paying for its mana cost.
>5/4

>Apocalyptic Gearhulk
>4BB
>Deathtouch
>When Apocalyptic Gearhulk enters the battlefield, each player sacrifices a creature, sacrifices a land, discards a card and loses 3 life.
>5/6

>>49212134
Actually chance the name

>Bubonic Gearhulk
>4BB
>Deathtouch
>When Bubonic Gearhulk enters the battlefield, each player sacrifices a creature, sacrifices a land, discards a card and loses 3 life.
>5/6

>>49212154
>5/6 deathtoucher
just

>>49212161
No need to thank me when the actual gearhulk spoilers turns out to be near perfectly what I have wrote.

>>49212234
delete this

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So like does this work like Belcher where if you don't reveal anything you just win?

>>49213310
oh fuck never mind I'm retarded

>>49208780
I don't speak espanol, what does the white one do?

>>49213310
>this boros reckoner and turn the tables maybe even a soulfire grandmaster
So spicey

>>49211281
I'm straight, that shit would get expensive fast.

>>49213310
You could stuffy doll and pariah for shits and giggles.

>>49213588
Even better, play it with Runed Halo

>>49213619
>Stuffy doll
But then you have an artifact in your deck.

>>49211465
holy shit

>>49213588
Wew forgot my flash enabler

>>49213518
Same effect as Tragic Arrogance

>>49213665
That's pretty cool, actually.

>>49213665
Almost the same. But each player chooses the permanents they want to keep. Unlike Tragic Arrogance where the caster decides what each player keeps.

>>49213703
Except you don't choose the targets for your opponent.

>>49213715
Ah well. Still kinda neat.

We didnt get a full Collective Defiance/Effort/Brutality cycle.

What are the chances that we dont get anymore Gearhulks? Considering the amount of mythics so far?

>>49213310
So what would be the best thing to try and fetch off this bad boy? My gut says Blightsteel Colossus, but the faggot inside me wants to say Inkwell Leviathan or Sundering Titan

>>49213758
>We didnt get a full Collective Defiance/Effort/Brutality
Because only 3 colors had Escalate

>>49213758
creatures akin to these always get a cycle.

>>49213758
Might be a mega cycle between Kaladesh and Aether Revolt, so don't fret if they aren't included in Kaladesh.

>>49213772
Depends on format. Blightsteel is probably the best though. You're in read so you could even play haste enablers.

>>49213660
>>49213588
No fuck turn the tables doesnt do enough, enchant boros reckoner with pariah for a kill. Boros modern burn can play 1 platinum angel, that land from lorewyn that puts a graveyard card on the bottom the library, and stall out until they can pariah up a boros reckoner then burn their opponent for their remaining deck. That little lava goblin that makes red sources do 1 more damage would make it even better.

>>49213794
I threw this together really quickly, it's probably terrible but gives some idea of what you could play

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/madcap-colossus-1/

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>>49208780
This has to be one of the laziest and least powerful cycles of mythics.

>>49213966
No way, M15's souls Cycle was the worst

>>49213936
I like the Intervention Pact/Hallow play with Madcap Experiment, but the combo is a little fragile. If they remove your guy, it doesn't seem like you have much of a backup plan.

>>49210554
Sorry you get another Snapcaster on a fatter body that doesn't require you to pay the casting cost of the spell you want to reuse.

>>49213966
>>49214026
And titans are the precursor to all of this
you made this world

>>49213936
Part of me wants to say you should run Runed Halo, even if its just in the side to avoid gay decks that might try countering you mid combo.

>>49214089
This is true which is why I said it was probably terrible.

>>49214126
Instead you pay the extra mana for the fatter body that doesn't matter when a 2 drop 2/1 body was fine for getting value out of instants even with having to pay the full price for the instant.

>>49214089
That same argument gets used against infect a lot but its still a solid deck.
On the bright side, Blightsteel is indestructible so the only removal that is can hit it is path

>>49214210
Remand and mana leak would also screw this deck over since it is running rituals to get the combo out at a faster speed so it would not only lose tempo but a lot of the ability to cast the combo.

>>49214210
I think the biggest issue if this ever became a real deck is redundancy. Really this only works because of Madcap Experiment but you can only play 4. I guess you could play tutors but that'd probably dip you into a third color if you play white for damage prevention.

>>49213909
>rare

>>49212154
>kills itself if it's your only creature
Pls no

>>49214236
Yeah the faithless looting and tormenting voice are to get anger into the graveyard but also to draw into the experiment but I don't really think that it is reliable enough. I could run gitaxian probes just to thin out the deck I guess but I'm not sure what I would cut I would really need to play a few games to see how it feels.

>>49214246
Muh Limited yo
Red isn't allowed to have good creatures, that would warp the format

>>49214192
A 5/6 for 6 that also gets to flash in with an instant in your GY is already pretty damn strong for a Mono Blue creature, Anon. Let's not pretend a fat body is anything to scoff at, especially when it enters with a solid effect.

>>49213966
The green and blue ones look decently strong, and the white one could be good. I like the cycle. Let's be honest, the Titan cycle was way too good.

magic wizards.com/en/story/planes/kaladesh

Literally the only male is the corrupt magistrate while all other women are supposed to be gooder than good.

Gsus.

>>49214286
Actually red gets even mana curve creatures for limited now.

See: Falkenrath Reaver from Eldritch Moon.

>>49214365
t. cis white male

>>49214313
The white one is fucktarded, its a 5 mana boardwipe that just says "you have now out tempoing your opponent"
if you have a card like utopia sprawl or a simian guide in hand you can drop this then path/bolt whatever creature your opponent kept or be cheeky and give it haste with a card like expedite or loot pitching anger. There is so much potential in all of these gearhulks.

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>>49214365
>he needs more men in his media
what are you, gay or something?

>>49214365
>MUH privilege

>>49213310
Personal Sanctuary. Boom no damage and you can take advantage of painlands and every other backlash cards

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>>49214438
Only for cute girls (male)

>>49214438
Not exactly my cup of tea when 2 of them are old farts and one of these grannies likes to munch carpet.

Now, if it was a Veldakian bombshell.Imagine the feeling of having a scientific gal analyzing every part of your body with her own body and 3 of her hands while the fourth milks your craving dick.

>>49213772
Blightsteel is good for it because you can play a single copy and discard it if it happens to get stuck in your hand.

>>49213758
If any color were going to be left out of the "big fancy artifact creature" cycle, it would've been Green.

>>49208780
mechatitan sounds way cooler than gearhulk

>>49214840

I'm actually liking the Inkwell because it is effectively unkillable outside of a hard wrath and it has two forms of evasion.

>>49214907
That would make it too obvious that this was just a rehash of the Titans though.

>>49213772
Blightsteel is the best option, you don't even need to haste it, just cast fling.

>>49215030
That doesn't work quite how you want it to.

>>49215030
You're going to need either Flesh // Blood or Soul's Fire.

After the first few spoils i was like awwww yeah podracing im gonna buy this shit

After seeing the absolute jank.mythics and rares coming out this week im like eh i dont feel like paying $6.50 for 20c rare yet again from 90% of a box
Ill just buy the 3 or 4 cards i want

>>49215364
The only reasonable decision.

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New spoiler

>>49215927
I wish it cost one less mana then it might actually be reasonable in some situations, this seems a bit too overcosted.

>>49213772
I hate to piss in your cornflakes but you dont get to fetch anything, you reveal till you hit an artifact, unless you can make sure you know what your top card is at all times, also if you had sundering titan in your deck you would be a fag because its banned

>>49216074
Why do you assume that he is talking about commander, by fetch I assume he means run only one artifact in the deck so that you can know what the madcap experiment is going to flip.

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>>49214365
cry harder

>>49215927
Seems good, but it will need testing

>>49216369
>Seems good

How's that?

>>49216410
I assume that he is thinking about if you bounce stuff that is free or thing like moxen which would then be able to tap for mana.

>>49216410
It's an instant draw spell that can bring more value from your etb effects. At the end of opp's turn, if you didn't have to use your mana because no counterspell and shit, you can use this on, for example, one of the mecha titan from the OP picture, and bring it back next turn while having an extra card (or more if you want).
It can also protect stuff by returning it to your hand. The draw is just icing on the cake.

I'm very tired of green getting so many playables

It just leads to stuff like the cancerous standard we have now where you jerk off with a board of 20 2/3's

>Be Gideon
>Attempt to actually make something out of this band of misfits I'm babysitting
>Jace insists we hang out at his place
>Whatever, I can set up a gym anywhere
>Weeks pass
>Nobody actually wants to work out
>I'm fairly convinced all the ladies are in it just so they can stare at my chest
>It's not my fucking fault the only articles of clothing in this building are Jace's cloaks
>Nobody wants to train with me because they're busy watching Goblin races and shit
>Jace is sperging out because we're using his room for meeting so he had to dispose of his jars and bottles of piss
>Still dropping spaghetti around Liliana
>He is kind of useful because he landed us a job or something
>Brace for protecting a plane against a new kind of Eldrazi
>Brace for fighting against Nicol Bolas
>Brace for fighting... fuck, anything would do
>Turns out they want to hire us as a fucking security detail
>Okay, I can work with this
>Chandra spergs out for some reason
>Meanwhile Jace tries to get me saddled with an administrative job
>Heavily hinting it's one of his exes at work
>Dinner with the guy who needs security detail
>Jace is throwing a fit because of all the veggies in the soup
>Convince the guy that he doesn't need us to help
>Go back
>Chandra is in full sperg mode
>Nissa is blushing like an acolyte of Nylea
>Turns out Chandra burned down my gym
>Blurts an apology
>Planeswalks away
>Liliana nowhere to be seen
>I still have to deal with Jace's other ex
>Nissa volunteers to wrangle Chandra
>A bit too excited about it if you ask me
>I know this will end up poorly
>But whatever, don't want to break up whatever they're having

Anything for my bros

>>49215927
I like it? I guess?

I'm normally a fan of Johnny cards but this one seems hard to build around and I don't have the patience right now to figure it out. Cheerios? Jeskai Ascension? Weird. Probably could've been an uncommon and nobody would've noticed.

>>49215927
>>49216495
>>49216503
It's for Modern Affinity for extra gas and then redeploying your hand+ your last hand

>>49216877
*claps*

>>49216877
I always love these.

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Really makes you think...

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The corrupt politician is a man of color. Really Wizards? It's 2016. baka

>>49217298
what am I missing here?

>>49217298
>she's not even black or trans

#triggered

I hope WotC hires more "black people counselors" on their team to supervise all this

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>>49217298
That's pretty progressive of WotC, what an amazing company!
Joke aside, I don't care, but she might be a U/R legend artifact oriented, and that would be great.

>>49217114
>It's for Modern Affinity

Absolutely not.

>>49217298
See, this is how you ought to do same-sex relationships if you have to do them.

>>49217298
>lesbians
This challenges my worldview and scares me, someone should start a social campaign to shut down this blasphemy, or at the very least complain about it in every thread until Wizards understands our pain

>>49217371
Nice passive aggressive sarcasm!

What is your tumblr blog so I can follow you for more epic comments like that one? :)

>>49217298
>>49217334
So this is where they introduce the more or less major legendary creatures of the set.

>Depala
female, good
>Padeem
female, good
>Rashmi
female, good
>Gonti
male, evil
>Oviya
female, good
>Kambal
male, evil
>Pia
female, good

And in Aether Revolt we will probably get Baral (the guy who killed Chandra's dad), who is obviously an evil male.

They really went all out with their diverse depictions of the genders. Thanks Wizards! :^)

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>>49217334
no, he is a white guy standing in the shadow. You can see that because he looks like a child molestor and all white men are child molestors

>>49217462
>Gonti
>male

>anon
>not retarded

>>49217493
Be happy I even reply to your post you lowtest beta faggot.

>>49217298

Why does anyone even care, it literally doesn't matter unless they decide to feature a card with her scissoring somebody. Otherwise it's just a character feature for a minor character.

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Have they revealed any new boardwipes that are replacing the current Languish crutch half the fucking people in standard lean on?

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>>49217476
This happened to me in Spanish class back in high school. We had some silly project where we had to plan a pretend trip to a nation where Spanish is the national language.

Basically everyone in the class picked Mexico or some other South American nation. At least 5 people picked Brazil because of "dem ass and titties," and each time they failed to pay attention when the teacher informed them that they speak Portuguese in Brazil.

I picked Spain. The whole class erupted in laughter about how I picked a nation that didn't speak Spanish.

I looked over at my Spanish teacher and for a moment we shared in our despair for the future. Now those idiots have the right to vote, and 90% of them are blindly voting blue.

>>49217334
How does an Aetherborn even become a crimelord? Don't they just live for a year or something? That's some impressive crimin'.

>>49217747
yeah, its 5 cost and gives you a huge fucking robot

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>>49217933
This explains it, read flavor text

>>49218162
>get busy killin or get busy diein

>>49210080
>>49210194
>>49209834

Are gamergoobers really that delusional that they now hate fictional, hot girls that are in lesbians with each other?

What a time to be alive in...

>>49210795
Can you translate the one on the left

>>49218393
Trinket-Maker Expert

Color: White
Type: Creature - Artificer, Dwarf
Rarity: Rare
Set: Kaladesh

Servo and Thopter creatures you control get +1/+1.

(3)W: Create a 1/1 colorless artifact Servo token creature.

>>49217747
>languish is a crutch
T. company cocksucker

>>49217549
>getting this pissy when someone points out that you're factually incorrect

wew lad, you triggered?

>>49218578
Wanna fight bitch? I've eaten pieces of shit bigger than you for breakfast.

>>49218668
I'm actually 6'3, so that's quite a lotta shit to be shovelling in your mouth. I am legitimately impressed.

>>49218162
>Lightning Helix in black for 3cmc

Soooo... I'm thinking of making BW lifegain deck with 4 Lone Riders post-rotation. Would that be any good or is it a bad idea to build around Lone Rider?

>>49217800
I refuse to believe anyone could be that stupid. I thank you for the story but it can't possibly be real.

>>49218688
Thank you.

>>49218702
You're welcome

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>>49209834

Dont forget that Elves can be pitch-black niggers in MTG. Not Drow, just your regular frizzy-haired lop-lipped bix nood niggeladrin.

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>>49218841
>not liking brown elves

What is wrong with you and your sit taste?

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>>49218841
So you're saying MtG is anime?

>>49218841
Elves can be a lot of things, depending on the setting. They can be a fucking evil perfection cult or a robot loving set of twats if the world makes sense for them to.

>>49218689
No "or player", so not quite lightning helix.

>>49218689
Far, far worse than Lightning Helix.

>>49218689
lightning helix hits players and is main deck lifegain in a format where red exists

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>>49218865
>>49218883
>>49218919

You call those brown?

WE WUZ ELADRIN N SHIET

>>49218919

Not in conspiracy 2 they can't.

1) no negroids in other races, just elves
2) a Pangaea with no isolation between landmasses to ensure that racial traits are developed
3) conspiracy 2 had oversight from blacknerdgirls to ensure diversity

So fucking summa summarum: get your dirty multikulti away from my cardgames.

>>49219023
Or maybe stop being so fucking autistic because it's just a fucking cardgame and fuck off back to /pol/.

>>49219051
>it's just a fucking cardgame
honestly, this isn't a good defense

but it's not like wotc has ever been consistent with the mtg universe

>>49219066
The worlds feel more believable when they are more diverse, like they have actual people instead of placeholders.

>>49219139

But anon, mudslimes and niggers aren't PEOPLE, they're just sub-human apes, and any kind of representation as anything else is offensive to my highly developed and rational brain.

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>>49219051

If it's just a fucking card game, why are you so adamant on ruining it?

I have no problem with black characters in general but when you take a pre-existing and well defined race and just fuck with it, you're emphasising your status as an outsider.

Go watch LotR and tell me how many niggers they had in the elven cities.

>>49219212

You know what?

Elves aren't people. Niggers are people. People aren't elves, ergo niggers aren't elves.

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>>49219271
>pre-existing and well defined race
This isn't LotR. This is Magic the Gathering. WotC can call people elves and do whatever the fuck they want with them. Tolkien did the same thing.

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>>49219292
>Niggers are people.

>>49219139
How are humans and goblins not more diverse than just black and white people?

>>49219298
Stop feeding the /pol/tards.

Honestly, it's two sides of the same coin, two sides using the exact same arguments as the other against the exact same things, just given different labels.

>Wahwuhwah, there are too many white heterosexual men being represented, this is problematic. Pander to me, Wizards of the Coast, or I shall bitch incessantly about you on my choice of media no matter how much or how little I actually play the game.
>Wahwuhwah, there are too many non-white non-heterosexual women being represented, this is degenerate. Pander to me, Wizards of the Coast, or I shall bitch incessantly about you on my choice of media no matter how much or how little I actually play the game.

Post that picture of a SJW wearing a mask as much as you like, this doesn't change the truth. This is a hilarious mockery of a discussion between two extremes that can't recognize how similar they are to one another.

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>>49219314

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>Was a non-white Mtg character before it was cool.

>>49219314
2bh I was a little upset about the amount of black people in Theros, about as upset as when there would be a bunch of blonde or East-Asian people in Notegypt.

If you're gonna overtly base yourself of a specific culture don't introduce things that don't belong

>>49219334
The usual argument against this is:
>But SJWs don't actually play the video game, they just laud it as being good and forget it exists! We actually play the video game, we actually care about this medium!

Incorrect in this case.

The majority of the 'poo in loo'ers and the shitslingers are just /pol/acks standing at the sidelines without any investment in the game, they're just taking cheap shots at anything they consider to be a part of the SJW agenda.

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>>49219335
How much would /pol/-kun lose his shit, if he knew that the main hero of Magic's main story line had black foster parents?

>>49209834
>>genderless magical special snowflake beings
I assume warforged and droids in general trigger you as well, my god, star wars must be your nightmare.
>>Indians everywhere
As we have had greek everywhere, japanese everywhere, mongols and chinese everywhere...
>>Chandra shaping up to be a dyke
I think I can stand one lesbian between a miriad straight character without suffering any discomfort. If you cannot you have some issues.
>>some random dyke is a character in the narrative
Who, Baan? Lavinia? Tezzeret? Pia?

Your troll is weak, but since there are actual people who would fall for it and believe it to be reasonable and truthful, you better stop it.

>>49219314
The first one is wrong, the second one is right because they are disgusting degenerates. Playing the game or not is irrelevant

>>49219382
Yada Yada SJWs Yada Yada REEE Yada Yada.

>>49219392
I'm ignoring you on principle because you use now-meaningless buzzwords like 'degenerate,' just like 'problematic' is a now-meaningless buzzword.

Stay mad over card games.

>>49219392
"It's wrong because I don't like it."
Your skin is as thin as a tumblerina broskii what are you doing? You sound like a 13 year old who didn't get what they wanted.

>>49219298

Oh for fucks sake, OF COURSE WotC can piss in their own cereal if they want to.

I'm just pointing out where they aren't doing things to benefit MTG and where they're doing things to benefit Hasbro. Meanwhile idiots like you are helping them turn a deep and story rich setting into a kiddie pool of with no content.

>>49219425
* Kiddie pool of shit with no content

>>49219425
No, we're ignoring the story and focusing on the mechanics of the card game, because it's a card game.

Why do you care about the irrelevant story of a card game? If I told you that the Queen of Diamonds was a trans-dyke and had a girl-boner for the Queen of Spades, would that enrage you? No, because it's meaningless. Just like it is in this.

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>>49219382

Black people exist. Black elves who aren't drow don't.

>>49219408
Of course, anything that goes against hedonism, perversions, nihilism, lack of morals and principles and lust is "a buzzword".

>>49219410
I don't like it because it's wrong. I could also say that you only think my post is wrong because you don't like it.

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I'll forgive WIzards for how terrible the diversity in the Keledesh lego and walker line up is if they make a planeswalker Gremlin.

>>49209834
They are trying to expand their market and sell the game to girls and LGTB people. They know that those people don't really care about the cards nor the game, just about the characters, so that's why almost every relevant character in MTG is a girl or LGTBI.

>>49219452
There is literally nothing that makes it impossible for a world in MTG to have brown-skinned elves. Being an elf doesn't require you to be white.

>>49219449

If they printed little lore snippets into the dyke love in the cards and had artist -drawn versions of the card characters, wrote a million stories about the cards and actively promoted the cards with the characters and racebent the jack of hearts to Indian like they did with Gideon, hired Will Wheaton to meme about "not all spades" with Tiny Tina, and had consulting from Dyke Co. to make a real juicy story, I'd definitely have a problem.

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To talk about the actual game and not meaningless story bullshit, can anyone identify any potential uses for the Panharmonicon so far? Any good ETBs?

>>49219488

Yes there is.

All explained here: >>49219023

>>49219392
Okay. You can believe that all you like, with all that evidence and reasoning your providing how could anyone not? But Wotc don't care, I don't care, most people don't care.

>>49219506
Goes infinite with Palinchron.

>>49219509
Not all planes are Fiora, and if goblins can be red or green or fucking pale for no real reason then elves can be brown for no real reason.
You are trying to use science to prove why a magical realm is wrong, and frankly it is embarrassing to watch you sweat so much over it.

>>49209834
>indians everywhere
>on an indian plane
The bastards!

>>49219506

Modern Goblins

Warren Instigator already makes 4x siege gang commander a must, loads of Goblins have surge or kicker for +1/+1.

>>49219517
And I don't care about that

>>49219521
That doesn't seem like a very effective combo. It's also a combo that requires you to have 11 available lands.

>>49219527
Does Modern Goblins have room for a 4-drop that doesn't do anything on its own?

>>49217800
This can't be real. Anon, this can't be real.

>>49219537
2 card infinite combos are still pretty strong though. All it needs is a second combo enabler and a decent control shell built around it + a win con to work out,

>>49219546
Exactly what format would you dream of using that combo in?

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>>49219522

You fucking retard, don't you understand that I'm too invested in the plot to act rationally?

Why else would I be mas about fictional races? It needs to make sense in order for me to like it.

>>49217349
>master of etherium is 3 cmc
Well why do you think that anon?

>>49218841
M8 brown elves are for sexual, they played right into our trapcard unless youre some sort of fag.

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It's a worse Resurrection Angel but are there any uses for it in Standard?

>>49219537
Not really, just 7, less if you have lands that tap for more than 1 mana. You can target the lands twice since it's 2 instances of target 7 lands. Let's assume for the sake of simplicity that you're playing basic islands:

>tap 7 islands
>Play Palinchron
>Trigger, target 7 of your islands
>Trigger copied, target same 7 islands
>Resolve a single trigger, untap 7 lands
>In response to second trigger, tap those same lands for 7 mana
>Lands now untap thanks to second trigger.
>Tap for 7 more mana, spend 4 of your currently 14 floating mana to bounce Palinchron.
>Spend 7 of your currently 10 floating mana to recast Palinchron.
>You have 3 leftover.

You can repeat this ad infinitum, generating 3 mana each time you perform the loop. Then finish by casting something like Blue Sun's Zenith to kill your opponent.

>>49219567
>thinking brown girls are attractive in any way
Embarrassing

>>49219570
No. Too slow. No flash. Body is inefficient for the cost.

>>49219585
That's fair. Nonetheless, that seems like a combo that requires too much mana. Splinter Twin was barely an affordable combo as it was and this is far worse.

>>49219554
Here is some simple shit I threw together to explain brown elves on fiora:
>Elves on Fiora just get more extreme tans then humans. This is why Edric is a pale ass motherfucker but others are pretty dark.

>>49219553
None. If I wanted to do infinite mana combos in modern I'd do: crumbling vistage + amulate of vigor + retreat to coarlhelm + ghost + an x spell.
If I wanted to do one in legacy or vintage I'd just do food chain.

>>49219570
Nope, it is doomed to only see draft play.
To be fair, Resto angel is fucking broken and shouldn't have been printed.

>>49219452
What is a drow?

No seriously, MTG has no idea what a drow is. Drow is a staple of most fantasy settings as the dark elves, evil elves, black elves, etc., but MTG so far just has...elves. Almost always nature-loving, knife-eared, arifice-hating, and nearly hive-minded regardless of where you are in the multiverse, but never renamed as "drow" because of being evil or black.

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Using either the Zada or Mirrowing version of this combo and a decent board to create a large amount of energy, what could you use that energy for with the current cards we have?

>>49219609
Splinter Twin was an easily affortable combo (mana-wise), that's why it was banned. (along with being a format staple that stifled other decks/cards/combos). 7 mana combos split up between 2 cards into chunks of 3 and 4 mana respectively; while being included in a control shell that prevents interruption by the opponent while simultaneously stopping them from going off worked out pretty well. Half of the combo could even be used as part of part of your disruption package (I'm talking about Deciever Exarch).

I do agree that this is unlikely to cause any ripples though. You need all 7 mana at one time (for Palinchron). It'll find a home in some commander decks that already abuse Palinchron with Phantasmal Image, Deadeye Navigator, and a half dozen other cards.

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>>49209008
Animation Module
Fabrication Module
Decoction Module

Man that fucking design win.

I already tested a deck with those as 4x and the two decent red 1-drops in Standard, it was shit.

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>>49219335
>Was a female non-white Mtg character before it was cool

>>49219641
The current energy sink cards are:
>Longtusk cub: Pay 2 energy, give it a +1/+1 counter
>Multiform wonder: Pay 2 energy, give it lifelink, flying, vigilance, or +2/-2
>Architect of the untamed: Pay 6 energy, make a 6/6
>Territorial goger: Trampler that gets +2/+2 whenever you gain energy.
So really there is nothing amazing, and your combo has no real pay off.

>>49219641
Currently, your best options are:

1) Funneling it into a huge attack with either Territorial Gorgers (since each separately triggers it), Voltaic Brawler (who also has trample and gets huge), or Longtusk Cub (who keeps the power bonus).

2) Depending on the actual number of creatures targeted, you may be able to get a decent number of tokens off of Architect of the Untamed.

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>>49219665
I love when they do this stuff.

>>49219685
Architect of the Untamed pays 8 for a 6/6, actually.
Aetherworks pays 6 to look at the top 6 cards and casts one among them for free.
Demon of Dark Schemes pays 4 and 2B for putting a creature from your graveyard on to your battlefield tapped.

Just a few corrections.

>>49219665
>>49219691
I love the flavor and design of these, even if the power is probably not there. Could go infinite with Ashnod's Altar I suppose, but the that's 4 cards to go infinite. Have fun with that.

>>49219685
Won't Territorial Gorger trigger separately for every copy of the spell? So you could get an insane pump out of it.

>>49219713
See >>49219689

>>49219708
It's Sword of the Meek and Thopter Foundry, that one combo that fucking destroyed Extended that one time.

Unfortunately spread across three cards instead of two.

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Surprise Ajani visit

>>49219716
>>49219689
Isn't Voltaic Brawler only able to spend an energy counter once every time he attacks?

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>>49219691
If a set has 0 panoramic cards in it the art then the set has poor art design.
Kamigawa still has my favorite panoramic sets.

>>49219703
>Aetherworks
So a less consistant "play big things too early" then just doing ramp? I'll pass.
>Demon
No worth while creatures to just cheese in through entomb style. Emmy is easier to just cast in delerium, and ulamog gets almost 0 value through this.

>>49219713
Yes. That little guy gets real big and I'm proud of him.

>>49219726
This fan art is so garbage and also Jayce is stuck on ravnika doing paper work so it can't happen.
I hope Ajani joined Nico Bolas to help him with the Planeswalker boot camp plane.

>>49219718
More cards does make it harder to go off though. It's also worth noting that you don't gain life, which helped make Thopter+sword resilient.

>>49219729
You are correct, I am bad at magic.

>>49219726
Are we sure that's Kaladesh?

>>49219734
>Jayce
>ravnika

Triggered.

>>49219735
One the other hand you get X energy and X counters to distribute, which means this combo would close out games faster.

>>49219740
Jace is specifically stated to not be in Kaladesh, Gideon is not on Kaladesh as well, no sign of Chandra either and she's a key Kaladesh figure.

>>49219740
>>49219747
I'm pretty sure that's because the pic is just fanart.

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>>49219747
she's too busy leading a rebellion with her mom to photo bomb.

>>49219771
What are they even rebelling against? A society that loves science and even supplies its peoples with the resource to practice and expand it? With some minor corruption? Like even Gonti doesn't seem that terrible of a person. He just steals shit and resells them.

>>49219767
>fanart

Well, post the source then will ya?

>>49219785
Its a communist plane under the guise of a utopia because we just so happen to be arriving at a time of festivities.

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>>49219785

Patriarchy.

New thread:
>>49219795
New thread:
>>49219795
New thread:
>>49219795

>>49217800
Anon ... p-please. Don't do this to me. You'll come back any moment now and say "lel I rused u" don't you?
There can't possibly be almost an entire class full of people that stupid.

>>49219799
Holy shit. Is this real?

>>49219785
All of the flavor for Kaladesh is written as though it's part of a travel brochure designed for tourists.

Just like a brochure for Rio doesn't tell you about the rampant crime, corruption, drugs and the corpses floating in the beach water, the lore for this set focuses on how wonderful Kaladesh is and doesn't say a thing about how awful things can be.

Expect there to be a sudden twist in Aether Revolt, where it suddenly makes Kaladesh look darker, grimier and a controlling, unpleasant place. Like, some sort of exposé that talks about how awful the Ghirapur regime is.

If they don't do that then yes, they're making Chandra look like an asshole who is wrecking a wonderful utopia because of MUH PARENTS

>>49219539

Modern Goblins has a mana curve that ends in 3. There aren't any viable 4-drop Goblins and this makes Warren Instigator, the main card of any goblin deck, better.

>>49219789
I do not have a source, I am merely speculating.

Upon noticing the artist's name and WOTC branding at the bottom, it seems I am wrong. It is worth noting that I still feel something is off about this picture though.

>>49219816
No. None of the things posted in those posts is real. Stop falling for blatant /pol/ bullshit.

>>49219816
No, it's not real. Google and search for it all you like, it's not real.

>>49219474
It's not that we don't care about the game, it's that the game culture is clearly unwelcoming to us. Look at this thread. Not everyone has skin as thick as mine. And for good reason. I'm getting leathery.

>>49219023
Just stop playing, guy. It's not "your" card game anymore and no amount of bitching will ever change that.

>>49219840
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with most lgbtwhateverthefuck people basing their personalities on their sexuality and just being unpleasant to be around. The victim complex certainly helps too.

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>>49216877
>>49216877
>>Whatever, I can set up a gym anywhere
>>49216877
>>I'm fairly convinced all the ladies are in it just so they can stare at my chest

mfw

>>49215927
So it warps shit away (bounce)and you learn from it?(draw)

How is that a paradox?

On a scale of /pol/ to storm front, how insufferable will this board be when we get to Amonkhet?

>>49221027
No one will complain about brown people or women in Egypt because there's precedent for both

>>49221027
Expect WE WUZ

>>49221332
Just like no one complains about women and native Americans in not-India

>>49219335
I want him back desu
phasing is fucking cool

>>49219570
If there are any ETB trigger effects you can loop two of them. If you also had that artifact (panharmonijiggy) you could infinitely flicker the angels and a creature of your choice. In standard the only way to abuse having 2 angels is that module that gives you energy each time a creature ETBs, if you include Panharmonicon you can pretty easily get infinite creatures (eldrazi scion creators), infinite mana (eldrazi scion creators), infinitely large creatures (Obsessive Skinner, Wall of Resurgance), infinite life, or infinite drain (Kalastria Healer).