Pathfinder General /pfg/

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I wouldn't, merfolk aren't for land campaigns.

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>>49208168

Cheshire catfolk in Bloodforge: Infusions when?

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>>49208280
Skinwalker caster that can cast invisibility.

>>49203081
Sharing this again just in case the anon missed it, I wrote a guide on how to start off in pathfinder a while back, hope it's helpful.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bzFGnyLO4TrOOLZ8Q1OROcB0lydVfF09JY2T1g4GxQ/edit?usp=sharing

>>49203081

Paizo had published a strategy guide that explains basic mechanics,has a "what type of character fits my style" quiz and build guides for the different types. The big problem imo is that it is only core. It is serviceable for what it does, though, and it may be a good book to check if you can get it.

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I've been destroyed both emotionally and physically /pfg/ I need a game to join so that I can earn gold for my hospital and therapy bills.

Ugh, looking back at my guide, I still need to update it for the occult and intrigue classes.

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>>49208393
Will you join my game even if you have to be around crossdressing shota trap kitsune foxboys?

>>49208376
Which book was this?

>>49208460
I'd roll Pun-Pun with a specific hatred for crossdressers

>>49208376
Do they inform you how shitty monk is how how much it will cost you in magic items to improve?

>>49208460
I said I needed to PAY for my therapy bills, not add to them, anon.

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>>49208511
Sometimes, though, cute things are good for the soul.

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>>49208530
Cute things don't make meaningful stories!

unless you're a good writer, which most cuteplayers are, infact, not

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>>49208548
>unless you're a good writer, which most cuteplayers are, infact, not
I'd say that applies to almost every roleplayer in general.

Question for those who have checked out the new Shadow Sentinel from the LV:V playtest;

Do you think the abilities that replace vigilante talents should be made into options? What about the shadow magic ability, think that should also be optional? I think both could probably be made optional, since nothing completely hinges on them.

>>49208505
The amulet of mighty fists was changed to only cost as much as weapon enhancements, and if you have a friendly druid you can get permanent greater magic fang for much cheaper. Also the unchained monk is pretty good.

Anyone got maps for Hollow's Last Hope? I'd love to use some maps for it, but couldn't find any so far. Both normal and battle grids.

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>>49208511
Okay, so what about crossdressing shota trap catboys instead?

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ILEOSA DID NOTHING WRONG

Seriously - if she had decided to power the everdawn pool with the blood of war prisoners or convicts or some dragons or something would it still have been evil? I don't think so.

>Ileosa X Sabina is love

>>49208647
What does the everdawn pool do?

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>>49208640
I think of murder when I see that in my games.

>>49208621
>as much as weapon enhancements
??
Pretty sure is x2 the cost of weapon enhancements instead of x3

>>49208621
https://i.gyazo.com/02b541e2a80ede3c4b1aaa0aef452a13.png
Costs twice as much to buy, just as much to craft.

>>49208640
>Those eyes
God that's an awful color combination.

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>>49208732
If it makes you feel any better I'm pretty sure they're deaf.

>>49208722
>>49208693
My mistake.

>>49208640
>Crossdressing shots trap catboys
Why is /pfg/ full of these autists?

>>49208640
Honestly, hunky catmen are better. Or at least rough manly cateenagers. Feline traits are wasted on something that's too young for sex and violence.

>>49208769
Because people take the bait.

Did I miss a spell sword build in the cache at the top? I was looking to build a hellknight. Probably a signifier as the other prc is meh.

>>49208757
So my question remains, do this guide informs you of how awful and expensive monk is?

>If you want to spend twice and contribute half PHB Monk is your class!

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>>49208750
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd-eyed_cat#Deafness_in_odd-eyed_cats

>There is a common misconception that all odd-eyed cats are born deaf in one ear. This is not true, as about 60%–70% of odd-eyed cats can hear.[4] About 10%–20% of normal-eyed cats are born deaf or become deaf as part of the feline aging process.[4] White cats with one or two blue eyes do, however, have a higher incidence of genetic deafness, with the white gene occasionally causing the degeneration of the cochlea, beginning a few days after birth.[13] If a white kitten has any speck of another color, the frequency of deafness is greatly diminished, even if the speck of coloration fades as the cat becomes more mature.[citation needed]

This one is blonde, not white haired.

>>49208820
Pft, like the CRB monk can even contribute that much.

>>49208820
Don't ask me I don't know what that book is.

>>49208845
30%-40% odds of being deaf are still fairly high. And that cat is totes white.

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>>49208845
Jesus fucking christ, can you stop with the pedophilia? This board is supposed to be about a tabletop roleplaying game. THERE ARE ACTUAL BOARDS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, GO THERE STOP IT.

>>49208820
Being generous there

>>49208460

Those are not Kitsune.

Those are Tanuki disguised as Kitsune.

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>>49208882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

>>49208882
>statistics regarding deafness in cats are pedophilic somehow
???
I'm legitimately confused. Is this some new kind of shitposting?

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>>49208882
>>49208683
>>49208548
Then stop being an avatarfag.

>>49208770

God, just imagine a well-built young cat-man with excellent hair and a killer smile.

>>49208942
He's talking about the pictures.

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>>49208915
Kitsune can have leaves on their heads!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune#Shapeshifting
>As a common prerequisite for the transformation, the fox must place reeds, a broad leaf, or a skull over its head.

>>49208943

Source?

How pissed would you get at an enemy that repeatedly ambushes the party with a blast spell before running or teleporting off, with little or no chance for the PCs to counterattack? How many times/frequently would it need to happen before you start getting pissed at your DM instead of the enemy?

>>49208967
So, what women in general are pedophilic, then?
I'm still confused. Is he one of those people that can't actually distinguish people's physical features? Prosopagnosia, I think it was called?

I figured an anime style with exaggerated features would be easier for those sort of people, not harder.

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>>49208945

>>49208945
Beast in the streets, beast in the sheets.

>>49208993

Rule of three, anon.

If the party can't catch them the third time than they'll just get frustrated.

>>49208993
One time. Then you get ready for it and prevent it the next time. Then it doesn't happen again again because he's dead.

Have any of our namefags come back since I left?

Also, does Dread's aura of fear still affect creatures that are immune to mind-affecting (and thus fear), or is it just things explicitly immune to fear, like paladins?

>>49209057
Blast spells can hit from a very long range, it's entirely possible to hit and run through that method.

>>49209022
No, the picture in question is quite obviously a picture of a woman far too young.

>>49209034
I know cat players are the cancer of FFXIV but if I ever start playing I'm making a catboy.

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>>49208770

>>49209072
It's not like contingency spells exist.
And isn't there a magic item which absorbs a spell?

>>49209084
No, it's a boy.

>>49208488

The Strategy Guide.

>>49208505

They do not deal with tiers, sadly, and focus on the core material only (though imo unchained rogues and monks are used in every recent version of the game, so they may as well be).

It is not great for optimization purposes, it is there so a completely new person has some idea what a class is supposed to do.

I give it a very small bonus point for mentioning strength and wisdom as a monk's main stats, with dexterity and constitution as secondary. It almost immediately loses it when talking about armor. saying that you should look out for rings and amulets and not even mentioning mage armor.

I still think it is a passable if no one has ever played PF or if you want to get an initial opinion, but I would not trust it for everything. Still, if you are a newfag with a torrent, it is something.

>>49208647
Eff her swimming pool, the bitch stabbed us in the back 3 books ago. I don't care if she was personally suckling kittens after that.

>>49209100
Assuming you only get hit once or twice a day?

>>49209096

That's too catlike.

We want manly hunks with cat-eyes and adorable ears we can scritch and pet while they feign annoyance at the attention.

>>49209042
Frustration is exactly what I'm aiming to encourage in this case, I just want to make sure it doesn't grow from frustration for the PCs to frustration for their players. My players are basically getting periodically sniped at by a ghost while exploring the area he haunts, and he's basically harassing them occasionally. When they find the specific place he actually died though, he'll fight to the re-death. I want that victory to be extra satisfying, so I've got three points on my map where the ghost will take a cheap shot before flying away while laughing.

>>49208919
>A man running around naked in public shouldn't be stopped or punished, everyone else just needs to not look.

>>49209148
(you)

Hi ladies and gents, what would you think of houserules where taking the improved X feat (for maneuvers, TWF etc) immediately gave you greater X as soon as you met the prerequisites? I am thinking of collating some feats together, i.e.weapon focus as well.

My main issue is that I do not want spell focus to immediately give you GSF. Maybe put a prerequisite requiring a certain caster level?

>>49209164
http://theworldissquare.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/

>>49209106
Does it matter?

>>49209139
What's stopping you doing those things with him?

>>49208280
Hint at that lewdy halflings were not limited to only blinkdog.

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>>49209139
'Too catlike' is a relative thing.

>>49209161

He's not wrong though.

If a man is running around naked in the streets than its your fault for looking.

>>49209216
We have the report function for that. If someone is shitposting for (you)s then the best thing to do is report and ignore.

>>49209198

Barbed penis.

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What makes up a "good" roleplayer? Of course, they have to actually consistently roleplay, but aside from that, what distinguishes someone who roleplays just enough to get by, and someone who REALLY stands out?

>>49209084
I see no indication of the person's age, and "far too young" for what? There's nothing happening in the picture.

>>49209118
Yep.
It costs 25K gp though.

Theres also several classes that get the ability to counter spells.

>>49209242

They make a character that is legitimately compelling, and shows eagerness to play that character from start to finish.

All the purple prose in the world for a grand sweeping narrative of some boring pirate King will not be as good as a well-done, richly explored "generic" slayer out looking for his missing wife.

>>49208915
>Those are Tanuki
>Tanuki may be shown with their testicles flung over their backs like travelers' packs, or using them as drums.
It's fine too.

>>49209242
I want the picture in that folder, please! Can you post it?

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>>49209233
Don't be a wuss.

Besides, the tongue is much worse. Imagine a catman giving you a blowjob, you'd need bandages after two minutes.

>>49209067
Reasking here. Have Gareth and Elric and the rest of DSP started visiting again after some idiots told him to leave?

Also, does the Dread's aura of fear still affect creatures that are immune to mind-affecting (and thus fear), or is it just things explicitly immune to fear, like paladins?

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>>49209201
Would you a blinkling maid boy?

>>49209313
Gareth posts often, yes.

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>>49209287
Non-shit (not from Amora) tanuki race in Pathfinder when?

Will the girls have huge tits?

>>49209310
>Besides, the tongue is much worse.
You are wrong!

>>49209313
Explicitly just fear immunity.

I think there's some bullshit feat that lets them fuck over immunity to mind-affecting too somehow, so they can scare things like tables or your mailbox.

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>>49208612
I'm getting to it...

Plague Bearer, Shadow Sentinel, and Symbiotic Slayer are still on my "to fully critique" list.

>>49209359
Someone post the "I roll to intimidate the wood!" story.

>>49209233
>>49209310

Fun fact: the barbs are actually blunted and before climax they're a bunch of bumps.

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>>49209347
Well, I've been licked by cats but I've never been fucked by one, so I guess I can't talk with authority. I'd expect that a thick condom would make it less of an issue, though.

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>>49208915
>Tanuki
We need a couple of very specific feats for them.

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>>49209429
You might be disturbed to know that I find that knowledge useful.

>>49208647
maybe not at first...
But this is the equivalent to a for-profit prison system. Invariably (this is no hyperbole, it ALWAYS HAPPENS, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME) "war prisoners and convicts" degenerates further and further

>And also robbers they're bad
>And also shoplifters
>And people who we think we smelled pot on
>And parking violators
>And you, you there, that son of a bitch, yeah you look guilty of something

There's a lot to gain from something that requires sacrifices? While it in itself will not push you on its own down a slippery slope, it IS a giant bucket of grease and a tempting "slide here" sign.

And you're always just one person from the entire thing becoming an utter atrocity.

>>49209482

This is why all rebellions everywhere need to get together and draw up a magically binding contract that no matter HOW cool the new method of execution some asshole will invent shortly after the revolutionary government is in power, nobody is getting addicted to using it.

How do I make the fastest possible character? I can get my speed up to 4,655 feet/round but I need to go higher. All material welcomed, Mythic is an option.

>>49209359
>>49209412
Do you think you could remind me of the name of that feat? PFSRD's subpage listing for psychic feats are...really poorly organized

>>49208993
Either as >>49209057
OR you could risk it and "he gets away that second time anyways".

BE AWARE: Doing that will cause the players to kick the destruction level up a notch, and they will be willing to fucking argue with you LOUDLY if you try to pull some bullshit about "Paladins wouldn't reduce an entire kingdom to magma like that" or other stupid lies about alignment or morality.

Be ready for a nuclear response, and if that's not enough, be ready for them to start planet-busting and planar-implosions.

After all, none of these are as bad as letting someone who needs that much to die continue doing dastardly deeds.

>>49209435

That image is adorable.

>>49209242
The important thing is they make sure their character is incompetent at its main job, to maximize the roleplay potential.

Afterwards the best will have a defining personality, such as "is gay", "trans", or "it's because I'm black isn't it"

>>49209440
>At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk’s attacks may be with either fist interchangeably or even from elbows, knees, and feet.

Does that mean that I could learn 'The Way of the Tanuki' and tactical-teabag on the battlefield?

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>>49209559

Has anyone read the first module of Strange Aeons, and is it any good? I was thinking of asking on /r about it.

>>49209572
should be more of a wink, really.

>>49209531
The nuclear response (insofar as 5th level characters have one) is exactly what I'm hoping they'll pull out. If they're that fucking pissed off at the ghost when they finally have its back to the metaphorical wall, they should feel all the more satisfied when it's taken out, a feeling which will neatly coincide with the conclusion of a pretty important arc of my campaign.

I'm just not sure if maybe this is a horrible idea on my part and I'm just blind to some obvious bad DMing or something. None of the shots the enemy is firing at the party are enough to kill or even KO anyone, but it is just enough damage that the party will want to drop some heals before moving on.

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>>49208945
?

>>49208460
What if I said yes?

Quick question,

My google-fu isn't up to par apparently and I can't find a straight answer, with magical item creation, the DC for the spellcraft check is 5 + the CL of the item + 5 per missed prereqs.

My question is, and please forgive me for sounding like a fucking dumbass, is the CL listed next to the market cost of a magical item is the CL used for the spellcraft check?

For example a headband of alluring charisma has a CL of 8, would that then make the spellcraft DC 13, assuming all prereqs are met? Or is the CL something else entirely?

>>49209527
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/feats/penetrating-fear-psionic

I'm not sure there is one for the aura specifically

>>49209653
You did it anon!
YAAAAAAAY

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>>49209546
Have some more.

>>49209523
Misinput there, Haste will bring my speed up to 105 not 85, and applied again on the fly speed. Final speed is adjusted to 5,005 feet/round or 252.7 ms/-1

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>>49209649
Show us your F-List.

>>49209653
Actually, no.
The listed CL is how much it normally has.
You only need a big enough CL to be able to cast the spells used for creating the item.

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>GM just allowed Path of War
>GM just allowed this
https://sites.google.com/site/eberronpathfinder/conversion-info/classes/prestige-classes/escalation-mage

Is this even more broken than Sacred Geometry?

I could take Combat Training for Silver Crane...

>>49209698

I don't know what I want to do to that cat anymore.

>>49209777
Huh, so with the headband of alluring charisma, you would only need a CL high enough to cast Eagle's Splendor then?

And I guess that would make it easier to be detected and suppressed or whatever. Fucking weird. What's the source on this exactly?

>>49209759

Nigger I asked if I could join that campaign a month ago and you blew me off!

>>49209825
You don't need to meet the caster level as a requirement to make the environment, but the spellcraft DC to make it is still the listed CL+5, not your CL

>>49209855
>environment
I meant item

>>49209825
Crafting rules.
Specificly:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation
The FAQ

>>49209855
You can make an item with a lower than listed CL though, which reduces the DC.

>>49209855
>>49209870
>>49209902
This is exactly why I'm failing to get this.

So take the headband of alluring charisma and lets say we're a cleric. You need to be able to cast Eagle's Splendor, which requires a level 4 cleric, which would require a minimum caster level of 4.

Would the spellcraft DC be 9 (base 5 + 4 CL) or would it be 13 (base 5 + Listed 13)?

>>49209759
What if I just promise I'm a degenerate?

>>49209759
F-list?

>>49209971
The DC is 5+the caster level of the item. Not your caster level. You can make items at a lower caster level than your own but this doesn't effect the DC. The caster level of the item is not actually a requirement that needs to be met. That cleric can make that headband despite being level 4 with a 13 DC spellcraft check.

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>>49209812
Be a good owner, I hope.

>>49210059
Okay, that makes sense.

>>49209691
...

>>49210097
I was just saying that because you had it right the first time, buddy.

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>>49210094
That's like... weird looking.

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>>49209990
F-list!

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>>49210130

>>49210140

F-List is an erotic character-creation site that allows you to design profiles with extremely detailed fetish lists.

>>49210175
Someone told me to stay away from F-List because they use magic to curse you. This is the kind of person who uses (used?) F-List.

>>49210201

F-list will curse you with erectile hyperfunction.

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>>49210175
I don't even know why I ask anymore...

>>49210201
Eh, like all fetish RPs you get what you look for.

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>>49210215
Even if you're a grill?

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>>49210110
No it's not.

>>49209804
Isn't that just a less-balanced version of Forrest's Spellburst Savant?

>>49210254

Eh, the better site for female boners is Elliquiy, but that's mostly because that site's 80% writing and 20% lewd.

>>49210254
Especially if you're a grill.

How does a grappler beat a Ring of Freedom of Movement? How exactly does Inescapable grasp work? Does the monk have to hit the opponent to suppress FoM?

>>49210317
>Beat freedom of movement

Usually, you don't. Because Paizo are fucking hacks.

There's no counter-item, and only Tetoris can deal with it at all, and even then at a cost of 1 ki per round.

It's a swift action to use though. You just use it, and then you can grapple them. For that turn.

>>49210317
Tetori monk

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>>49208133
How are Merfolk not balanced for land and sea campaigns? They've got some nice abilities for low level characters but it mostly loses relevance past level 6.

The fact that their land-speed is all of 5ft does kinda cut down on their mobility, but you can pick your class to be able to get around that. Kineticist has a few options to increase your options within a few levels, and given that one of their favored class options is Sorcerer just getting som pillows and making sure that floating disk is on your spells known list can probably keep you covered in the short term.

At 3rd level and past, if you're playing a more martially-minded merfolk you can take Squire and get some big critter to carry you around while you either lance-charge with them or take archery potshots from a distance.

Arcanist has some teleportation exploits to work with move actions, but it's limited to spending from your reserves.

I'm not as familliar with PF psionics and the like but I'd bet there's something to work with there. if there's a translation of the Elocator from Expanded Psionics in there then you've got an easy solution there.

Heck, since it's still a land speed boost, you could stack up a level dip or two that gives Fast movement and just do the Magicarp Uses Flail and fish flop your way through life at rapid speeds.

>>49210417
>>49210440
Alright, cool. Any way to beat Gaseous Form? Tetori eventually gives you a way to beat back dimensional door and such, so turning into gas would be my main issue, I suppose.

>>49210481
Your real problem is how badly CMB scales against monsters' CMB.

>>49210481
>Any way to beat Gaseous Form?
Just use any magic weapon.

>>49210506
Meant the monsters' CMD**

>>49209359
If it's an animated object (per the spell)? Sure.

>>49210459
>How are Merfolk not balanced for land and sea campaigns?

Because they're too good. +2 to three stats, with no penalties.

>>49210517
This, I made many trippers/grapplers, but Magus and Barb (only played paizo splats) seem to be the most reliable at the job.

>>49210317

Be a caster as well and cast antimagic field. IIRC all such effects are supernatural, therefore suppressed in an AMF.

>>49210547
Iunno, you should be able to superspecialize your cmb for a grappler. If that's the only thing you want to do. doesn't sound very fun to me, though.

>>49210534
Which, y'know. Makes no sense.

>>49210514
If you're high enough level to be breaking FoM, you're high enough level to have magic fists in one way or another.

>>49210571
If a creature has 0 Wisdom, it's incapable of rational thought. Does that mean a creature with a Wisdom score of 1 or greater (read: "a creature") is capable of rational thought? Does that also mean it's capable of irrational thought?

>>49210568
I managed to get it pretty high. This is all for theorycrafting, really. I'm just wondering if there's a way around things just saying, "No. Fuck you."

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>>49210544
>no penalties.

I just gave a post listing the class options neccessary for them to be functional outside of an aquatic environment. In a Land AND Sea campaign, they are at a significant disadvantage without some means of overcoming that mobility issue for however much of the campaign needs them on land.

+2 to 3 stats is good, sure, but actual class levels make that, along with the rest of its kit, insignificant in the long run. Unless your problem is with folks surviving the first few levels of the game (something of which is by no means ensured by those stats at low levels, simply slightly off set) then I fail to see how it's too potent in comparison.

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>>49209297

Its from the manga Prunus Girl

It's pretty good if you like romance and...mystery.

>>49210599
>>49210571
Like, seriously dude, if you're imbuing an object with the capacity to execute tasks without manual input, you're introducing a system that can be fucked with. Think about it that way.

>>49210599
Well, at Wisdom 1, you have a Wisdom Penalty of -4, so you Could think rationally and remember things and perceive things, but you wouldn't be terribly talented at it.

>>49209410
Plague bearer was a special request from the publisher, symbiotic slayer is what the icon from this book will be using, Ms. Kareena. And I'm just glad shadow sentinel isn't garbo anymore. I do appreciate you looking them over though, as I always welcome feedback.

>>49210709
Yes, but that system doesn't necessarily involve what could be called emotions and thus fear.

So the method of fucking with it shouldn't be the same as 'grr, Ima hurt you'

>>49210701
No, I know that. It was cute, though I'm glad it ended, it felt like it was starting to drag out. I just wanted that picture with the question marks without having to go through 40+ chapters.

>>49210728
-5 penalty.

When you use maneuvers which grant you extra damage, is that damage weapon based or untyped? Basically, if you use a blunt weapon and use a maneuver on a zombie, will it soak up the 5 from it's damage reduction from the weapon damage, or will it get a damage reduction on the maneuver as well? Or is the maneuver damage extra damage like sneak attack and other precision damage, untyped or what have you? I know some maneuvers have descriptors in their explanation, but some just say that you do extra damage.

For instance. Outer sphere stance from Thrashing dragon

When wielding two weapons while in this stance, the disciple gains +1d6 points of damage with his weapons and suffers a -2 penalty to AC. The AC penalty to this decreases by 1 once the character's initiator level reaches 8th, and is negated at 16th initiator level. Upon reaching 10th initiator level, the bonus damage increases to 2d6.

Would the DR to that type of weapon soak up the damage from the extra it gives?

>>49210800
If nobody else steps up, I'll give it a read and post it when I find it.

Have you ever had to deal with Corruption rules? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/corruption

>>49210882
I imagine it's weapon damage unless it specifies otherwise, like profane or elemental damage.

>>49210944
No, no I'll do it later if the image isn't on hand. Although read it anyways.

>>49210987
Already am, thanks though

>>49210882
>Would the DR to that type of weapon soak up the damage from the extra it gives?

Yes. If your Thrashing Dragon dude was using two clubs (1d6 blunt damage) each club would be doing 2d6 blunt damage. If he was using sword swords (1d6 slashing) each sword would do 2d6 slashing. If he used a (fire) Elemental Flux maneuver with a club, he'd do 1d6 bashing and 1d6 fire.

>>49210952
Not with those rules. I played a character once who captured by Illithids and implanted with a tadpole. He slowly turned into one over the course of the campaign.

>>49211119
>was slowly replaced by one over the course of the campaign.
ftfy unless you're using weirder illithids than normal.

>>49210952
I have gmed them actually. I plan on doing aeons with them. One PC is starting possessed the other with a deep one.

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21st and probably final update. Includes mostly just typo fixes, and a slightly expanded skill list to let them play a rogue-ish role in a party and so it lined up nicely in layout.

Been a lot of fun, thanks for all the feedback I've gotten, and I hope anyone who actually plays one enjoys it. Tune in next time for some other oddball concept when I get the chance.

>>49211332
I was using some 3rd edition rules with feats and a prestige class that turned you into an illithid. My character spent a lot of time fighting with the voice in his head.

>>49210952
I'm considering using these for my party. One of them failed a lycanthropy save a few sessions ago and their current adversaries are looking to make use of the next big lunar event, but I'm not sure if I should just apply the template for it, or start using this variant, or even just give him a 1/day Beast Shape with a specific creature limitation.

>>49211431
I was liking this class until I saw the name and it made me tear my own eyes out.

>>49211517
Don't use corruptions, it's a shit system.

>>49211599
What would you suggest as a better name then?

>>49211431
>for some other oddball
There is a chance that it will be PoW-related oddball concept?

>>49211517
Just give template. Corruption is shit.

>>49211599
I'm very sorry to hear that. I'm definitely interested in hearing any suggestions you have, though I personally like the current one.

>>49211631
Dunno! I haven't thought that far ahead. Right now my brainspace is devoted to linear algebra and Java though.

>>49211605
>>49211651
Any particular reason for the distaste?

>>49211671
I prefer single word names I guess, for base classes at least. Just "savant" sounds fine to me.

>>49211710
3 failed saves and you're out of a character. It's not interesting, it's excessively punishing.

>>49211724
Savant rings more like a skill monkey to me.

>>49211710
My personal distaste of the system comes from the extreme penalties for failing, the brevity of it. Like you could be corrupted for 2 sessions then be a npc for the rest of it. And lastly the fact some of the corruptions could make you take saves for basically no reason. I decided to work on a rewrite for the system to change this up a bit.

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>>49211724
Ah. That's fair, though I'm in the opposite camp; I don't think that the unwritten rule about single-word class name is worth paying attention to, and don't think "savant" would convey what the class is any better than the current title does (at the very least, that as a one-word title would do nothing to imply they're a mage).

Different strokes, I guess.

>>49211724
I understand your feels, anon.

More than one word and it sounds more elaborate and fancy, more suited for things like prestige classes, whereas a base class should be nice and snappy.

In my opinion at least.

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>>49211517

>Player getting infected with lycanthropy

>>49211793
The problem with that is that there are limited one word names that help define what a class is about.

>>49211787
It's pretty pedantic I guess, but the name seems a bit grand alongside stuff like "fighter" and "rogue".

>>49211748
The PC in question actually has a flaw/trait called Corruptible. I was thinking I'd just add another -2 to the baseline one for each manifestation level rather than NPCing him entirely. Just exploits a weakness that he'd chosen for himself along a theme that fits the character's concept.

>>49211828
Spellburster?

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>>49211671
>devoted to linear algebra
>applied sixteenth-century logic, didactics, and Euclidean geometry to fencing. The result, he said, was a system of fencing based entirely on mathematic principles

Sounds like initiating archetype for swashbuckler.

>>49211724
Then make the name "Spellburstsavant" there now it's one word.

>>49210130
Do I have to? Why won't you just let me in the shota trap kitsune club?

>>49211846
Maybe it's just me, but that sounds like an anti-magic or counter-magic based class.

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>>49209297
So I found the frame, but the question marks appear to be after-market.

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>>49211911
I love you!

>>49211846
That name still feels a bit off because you wouldn't really know what that means until you were familiar with the class. Names like cleric and wizard let you know what the class is, given a certain basic understanding of fantasy settings.

>>49211926
Chapter 28, page 3, if you're curious.

>>49211828
That's pretty much it.

Like, a while back I was pondering a sort of psychic class that rather than using spells or psionics or psychic spells or anything had a far more focused scope mostly focusing on the myriad uses of telekinetic power or more mental effects (Like mindcrushing or mental therapy). I was pondering them picking one 'track' and getting the other at half level or something

I was reading back issues of the Sonic comics, and Silver is shit at being psychic except for TK, whereas Gold is really good at mental stuff.

But then I had no idea what the fucking hell to call the damn thing since everything good is already taken.

>>49211828
Then use compound words. A Soulknife is still pretty obvious; he makes a knife out of his soul.

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>>49211846
Or Spellburstered?

>>49211985
Soulknife will never not be a dumb name. Sounds like something an edgy teenager would come up with for their OC.

>>49211808
I'm not sure but somehow I suspect that's the woman from the anime with the two werepups.

>>49212030
I WROUGHT THIS BURNING BLADE FROM MY VERY OWN MANLY FIGHTING SPIRIT

>>49212110
That's more a Dynamancer's schtick. gotta grab some kinda 'summon weapon' thing from somewhere else though.

>>49212044
>I'm not sure but somehow I suspect that's the woman from the anime with the two werepups.

Nah, it's just an inquisitive innocent anime girl expressing my mildly lewd interest in lycanthropes.

>>49211836
But "unchained summoner" is fine?

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>>49212030
>>49211985
>>49211828
>>49211836
>>49211793

So, reading this stuff, it sounds like my next homebrew should have an extremely edgy compound word name? Got it.

>>49212416
Well that's 'Summoner' with an appellation. The unchained bit is irrelevant to the class itself, it just means 'summoner again'

>>49212449
Two compound words would be best.

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>>49212449
Darkmood Doombringer
Gun-totin' harbinger.

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>>49212449
Excessivelygrotesquefleshbender

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>>49212683

>>49212449
The Forrestfire

>>49212591
>gun archetype that deals with the misfire and reload rules by tossing the guns and drawing new ones instead

>>49212683
I'm fresh out of fleshbending ideas after the Pain Sculptor. Took me a long time to figure out what to do with that one, too.

>>49212792

.... the first thing was meant to direct to >>49212621

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Path of War 1 errata when?

>>49212449
Exactly! Like EdgeLord.

>>49210568
>>49210517
I'm playing a tristalt steelfist commando//aberrant aegis//deadly fist, how might i improve my grappling power? at 4th level, planning on throat slicer/greater grapple/rapid grappler, but there's gotta be other options

>>49212958
Jesus how did I quote two wrong posts??

Meant for >>49210547 >>49210609

>>49212931
Maybe when you stop jerking off to children.

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>>49213013

Jesus fucking Christ when will you retards realize that wailing against any perceived degeneracy in this thread not only solves nothing, it simultaneously empowers the fucktards that post it while leading to endless rage-debates by those who are booty-bothered by these things.

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>>49213109
If I want to shitpost by responding to shitposts then that's my decision!

>>49213109
Well this is my first time here, also you seem like the only person enraged here, buckaroo.

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>>49213109
>>49213142
>>49213013
>>49212931

>>49212977
if you've got all the tentacles, Kraken Style gives a +2. Gauntlets of the Skilled Maneuver, Thorny Ioun Stone, a Size increase, Anaconda's Coils, a Brawling Amulet of Mighty Fists with Permanent Greater Magic Fang +5, Brawling on your armor, and the relevant feats. If Kraken Style is passable, go for Grabbing Style, as that will let you grapple with one hand. Then grab a Katar or something stupid for x4 multiplier on the crit. That'll pretty much insure it stays down.

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What's the largest number of enemies you've faced on your own, and prevailed?

>>49213377
Usually don't face hordes in games I play, but one of my characters punched the Tarrasque out 1v1.

>>49213401
Didn't kill it, though. Ya pansy.

>>49213377

Like 60 goblins

>>49213423
No, instead I tied it up and used it as a weapon. Doesn't have Freedom of Movement, so in that game's world there's still some Alchemist stomping around with a Tarrasque slung over his shoulder.

>>49213423
>He doesn't get a free casting of wish on every successful unarmed strike.

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>>49213377
>What's the largest number of enemies you've faced on your own, and prevailed?

I'm fighting 27 Orcs in a PbP right now, and so far I've been doing a gay old time cutting them down.

>>49213475
I think Tarry may weigh more than you can carry. Probably.

>>49213484
Wish isn't guaranteed to the kill Tarry anymore.

>>49213522
After the 30th casting or so it'll probably have some effect.
hopefully

>>49213254
I'll have all the tentacles in the next level or so. At the moment I've got two, plus Tear Flesh (which only matters when a target escapes my grapple but hey, free damage), Empowered Natural Weapons (so Deadly Fist abilities apply to the tentacles), and I was considering grabbing the Psychokinetic Armor bladeskill to get free armor enhancements (especially since Brawling is only +1 for armor).

The Anaconda's Coils is less helpful (aegis stat bonuses are enhancements already, and by the time I get it the bonuses to str/grapple will be higher than that belt's. I'm not sure if constrict is worth that much from that source).

Of note, my GM for this game did away with 'wondrous item slots' being location-specific, so now we're just limited to a number of effects equivalent to the number of slots there are (eleven, iirc).

I'll check out Kraken and Grabbing styles, the Katar is easy enough to grab. Thanks for the help!

>>49213522
>>49213631
Can't you put Tarry under 0hp (unconscious) and then Miracle for it to take 40 divine damage/round or something to negate its regen?

>>49213685
>No form of attack can suppress the tarrasque's regeneration—it regenerates even if disintegrated or slain by a death effect. If the tarrasque fails a save against an effect that would kill it instantly, it rises from death 3 rounds later with 1 hit point if no further damage is inflicted upon its remains. It can be banished or otherwise transported as a means to save a region, but the method to truly kill it has yet to be discovered.

>>49213701
>suppress
That is not what I said.

>negate
This is what I said. It regens 40hp/round, so if it takes 40 damage/round it would effectively have no regen, hence "negate".

Comprehensive reading is important. This would obviously not kill Tarry, but keeping it unconscious is the second-best option.

Updates to the playtest

>Shadow Sentinel now has optional shadow talents
>All replacements for social talents are now shadow tricks

The archetype's more modular now, so it combines with a lot of other things, instead just replacing

>Specialization
>Startling, Frightening, Stunning appearance
>Vengeance Strike

Personally, shadow alchemical scoundrel is looking pretty hype.

Also kind of thinking of changing the name of alchemical scoundrel and shadow sentinel, I'm up for suggestions.

>>49213731
You could also whip up a way to permanently turn the tarrasque into your plaything by sucking your DM's cock. If you have to go by the DM's whim then it's not really an option worth discussin'

>>49213522
130 tons right? I did the math, I managed to get a high enough carrying capacity to drag it around without a problem.

>>49213760
Fine.

Magic Jar the Tarrasque with a Wish spell, and then planar shift the gem to the negative energy plane.

When the spell ends, your soul goes back to your body, and the Tarrasque's soulless form will be a living vegetable for the remainder of eternity, since the gem would be outside the spell's range when the effect ended.

Magic Jar is not a mind-affecting effect, so the Tarrasque is not immune to it, and it's got a fuckin +12 Will save.

>>49213636
Might want to ask your GM to allow you to custom the grapple enhancement and constrict might be nice for things immune to crits, since they won't fall to the Coup. That way, you can completely unload on them, grapple with a grab, constrict for more damage, then break the grapple on your turn, and repeat. It can be a decent little add-on.

Also, don't forget the +4 to grapple from having grab. All your tentacles actually give you +10 total to grapple.

>>49208945
>tfw playing exactly this in my next game

He's married and dad-mode though.

>>49213851
4 tentacles only gives +8, unless there's a clause about multiple limbs somewhere I haven't seen.

I've been considering asking about some way to get constrict, but until we get a bit further in and find out whether or not he's being serious about tacking mythic on top of our tristalt I was thinking to hold off.

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>>49213870

That's still cute! His wife must be a lucky woman!

>>49213377
Two years ago my GM ran a one shot for us. We were playing 10th level dwarven fighters. We had all the cleave feats. ALL the cleave feats.

Then he started throwing waves of goblins at us. Just wave after wave of low hit dice goblins that we could cleave. Thanks to Great Cleave and Cleave Through, my character managed to kill 30 goblins in one one. Cleave, 5 foot step, cleave, 5 foot step.

>>49213377
I once destroyed an entire city by myself.

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Okay /pfg/, give me your crunchiest bullshit.

How many different ways can I apply a phat Charisma?
I've got armor (Mystery Cultist of Arshea), deflection (incorporeal through Ghost Syrup, snagging an Amulet of Grasping Souls for the sake of ease), carry weight (incorporeal), saving throws (paladin dip for Divine Grace), and to spells (Incanter). Is there anything else I even need to worry about, or is this already excessive?
Charisma is at a 33, will be 38 in two levels before any items

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>>49214041

You're literally playing an ultra-slut, you should know that.

>>49214041
>and to spells (Incanter)
SoP?

>>49214041
Oracle can grab you some nice things. Depending on what mystery cultist grants, a single level dip in Sphere Oracle (so you don't lose CL) with the Nature mystery for Nature's Whispers or w/e can sub in for your AC. It's explicitly not a Deflection bonus; it replaces your dex for AC/CMD with CHA, so it works with your ghost syrup idea.

Lore works too, iirc, and has some other good revelations to grab.

Noble Scion (War) gives CHA to Initiative.

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>>49214088
Not that there's anything wrong with that!

>>49214041
Deflection will also apply to your CMD so you're fine there, but you need to add it to your HP somehow. If you can snag a level of Agent of the Grave you can get Cha to HP, and then you might need to see about retraining previous HP values to change the modifier if your DM allows it.

>>49214147

Of course, but we're talking... Like, a degree of slut that transcends most succcubuses, this is almost beyond Nocticula-tier.

>>49214239
Still nothing wrong with that! It's only wrong when it starts harming people, like addictions!

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>>49214262
>It's only wrong when it starts harming people, like addictions!

You don't understand, she's gonna RUIN you for other women; the level of Charisma we're operating at is beyond most deities, we're talking about a fuck that would get Calistria jealous.

And since she's an Arshea cultist, she's gonna be spreading that love to all sorts of common-folk. You don't think Joe Schmo is not going to get addicted to the prospects of another go?

>>49214041
I want to fuck your character.

>>49214307
I think having one good meal won't permanently ruin all other meals in the future. They may be the most experienced lover you ever take, but that doesn't mean you still won't be able to enjoy your time with others afterwards.

>>49208133
why is the pfsrd site missing so much from the bestiary?

>>49214390
Because it's like two guys running it.

>>49214406
this is a recent development

>>49214348
The entire concept of fae food is that you are wrong.

>>49214450
I thought fae food was eating something and then being locked into the fae world because of it?

>>49214088
Well no shit, the first six levels of this character are DSP's Succubus.

>>49214114
Yep.

>>49214144
Mystery Cultist drops one level of spellcasting overall, and grants (for the six levels I'd need) some neat stuff up to Cha as armor (specifically Arshea's second boon). I'm considering ignoring the PrC, as by the time I got to its 6th level I'd have only gained the second boon one level in advance (15th vs 16HD as per Celestial Obedience).

I like Nature's Whispers, though being incorporeal is gonna negate most combat maneuvers so the best part is charisma to AC for a third time (armor, dex replacement, deflection).

We're already playing, so I'd have to retrain my first level feat (which is totally acceptable tbqh).

>>49214190
Agent of the Grave would be reasonable, probably, though it conflicts a bit with the direction this character is going (it requires an Evil alignment. What was that 3pp feat that let you ignore one prereq? or was that /pfg/ just postulating?).

>>49214343
As does most of Sandpoint.

>>49214406
the website is affected to such a degree that i'm suspecting hacking

>>49214667
I noticed this while looking at the Oracle, the lists of Mysteries are empty.

>>49214682
It's more likely an attempt at reorganizing things.

>>49214706
Most likely. He does everything on the live site, instead of doing the sane thing and working on a mirror and pushing changes once complete.

>>49214682
They just be updating. The mysteries were up about two hours ago when I was working out an oracle character.

>>49214348
You forget this shit literally starts wars.
It is THAT bad.

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Alright, which one of you chucklers is in my myth-weavers game trying to play a god damned shota trap foxboy as a fucking aasimar rather than the Kitsune I redid for this purpose (minus the shota bit).

Chuckler wants to play a shota foxboy for what I can only presume is fetish reasons.

He wants to do this by playing an aasimar with fluffy tail.

But what I don't understand is if he wants to be a kitsune boytoy... why not be an actual kitsune?

Yeah, normally kitsune are fucking furfags, but I fixed that. No more furfaggotry, at will shapeshift to babby fox, hid kitsune features (ears, tail) at will, etc, etc, etc. So why not the actual fox person rather than a part angel?

>>49214845
Pft, everything starts wars. That ain't no accomplishment.

>>49214861
>Muh stats

At the end of the day son, Aasimar are just stronger than Kitsune.

>>49214861
I once played in a game with a dude who did the exact same thing. When told to play a kitsune he flipped out. He was an 11 year old bard who tried to get people to fuck him. I was disturbed.

Wonder if its the same dude

>>49214861
>>49214887
Fuck I'm so glad I just play with my bros. If I had to share a table with fucked up losers bringing their fetishes into the game I'd have abandoned this game long ago.

How can I pirate Haunted Heroes?

>>49214947
What about if it's an online game and you're bringing your own fetishes too?

>>49214861
Aasimar with tails (which are a thing) have different stats from kitsune, and different fluff.

Or at least that's how I'd assume it is. It doesn't sound like that's why he was going for it.

>>49214947
I usually dont play with them for long. Longest fucker I played with was a chronic cheater.

>>49214956
There should be an imgur link in the previous threads.

>>49214861
Stats. An Aasimar just has better stats than a kitsune and you can fluff them to be the same, so why not?

>>49214947
Play a fetish character isn't the same as forcing that fetish on others. If someone likes kitsune traps that's fine to play one. It's when you're making the others uncomfortable that it isn't.
My current character is a hermaphrodite, but no one at my table knows that, not even the DM.

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>>49214959
Doesn't sound like it would actually be a good game.

>>49214995
There's the other players not knowing the fetish shit at all, there's forcing it on others uncomfortably, and there's a razor-thin territory between that I'm not sure even exists.

>>49214995
I'm your DM. Now I know.

>>49215079
>and there's a razor-thin territory between that I'm not sure even exists.

I've seen it exist, it's a fabled land where people know you're getting off to a certain aspect of the character, but that doesn't bother them because the character's got more to them than that and you're all good friends.

A good example is the woman that spends the entirety of the campaign pregnant, but there's a backstory reason for her to be adventuring while knocked up and the player's a cool person trying to put effort into making a dynamic character.

>>49215079
>There's the other players not knowing the fetish shit at all, there's forcing it on others uncomfortably, and there's a razor-thin territory between that I'm not sure even exists.

I'm sure there is, but it's definitely not something I would try unless the other people in the group were okay with it.

>>49215109
>spends the entirety of the campaign pregnant
Oh god no you're going to kickstart the BUT WHAT PENALTIES SHOULD SHE HAVE argument again!

CLEARLY SHE SHOULD BE PERMASICKENED+NAUSEATED+EXHAUSTED AND HER MAXIMUM DEX SHOULD BE 10

>>49215124
>Oh god no you're going to kickstart the BUT WHAT PENALTIES SHOULD SHE HAVE argument again!

The average campaign happens over the course of maybe 3-4 months.

Assuming she gets the baby-batter on the night before she leaves, she'll barely start showing by the time she's a high-level adventurer.

>>49215109
>A good example is
Still pretty fucking dumb by the sounds of it.

Been reading up on that Spellburst Savant pdf for a bit, got a few concerns about it though.

>Can prepare any spell from the entire Sorcerer/Wizard spell list
>constant 30ft/60ft/90ft/ radius 2nd-step detect magic
>9th level constant 30ft radius detect spellcasters
>gun witch can use her round's nova ability use to fire as a full BAB class, free action to reload, no ammo dependencies, no misfire

>>49215156
Timescale is the weirdest thing in games. You spend 18-20 years attempting to master your craft, and then you spend 3 months until you're able to fight monsters that could wipe out whole cities.

>>49215079
>>49215109
Can confirm that it exists. It helps when the fetishy stuff is completely inoffensive to the game as a whole.

>>49215210
Set the XP track to slow and then cut the XP gained in half. Bam, now you have realistic XP gain.

>>49215236
Also less fun.

>>49214041

Scaled Fist Monk and Enlightened Paladin. All of those stack Cha to AC cause of their wording

>>49215243
Let's be honest here, anon...the goal for that was never to have fun.

>>49215191
>Gets only up to 5th-level spells, at a REALLY shit progression
>Just a slightly faster version of constantly concentrating on detect magic (since any caster can do that out of combat, when it matters, and always be on third round), since it's a cantrip. Eventually anyone sane will have arcane sight permanencied anyway
>Detect magic and arcane sight will tell you who's relevant anyway, this isn't a big deal
>"They can use guns without the issues of them" it's not even as good as the gunsmoke mystic.

>>49215285
I'm not sure if the gunsmoke mystic should be a balance point here.

Though I agree that the Gun Witch's abilities aren't really overpowered. It's basically equivalent to getting an advanced firearm and using good ammo-tracking houserules.

>>49215285
A bit of the concern does come from being able to just waste time making a shitton of different scrolls or potions and so on and so forth, but the main detractor (I'm discussing the class with some of my TT group) forgets that not all campaigns give players free time and/or time to travel and sell shit.

Any decent GM wouldn't let that shit fly to begin with.

>>49215285
>>49215351
I've avoided making my own commentary on Gun Witch with my group since it's the newest archetype, that and my group has a tendency to shit on anything and everything I show an interest in until I stand stubbornly behind it long enough for someone to actually read the shit and understand why it ain't bullshit.

Same person who had issues with getting my group to understand that Occult Adventures isn't OP and that they're either echoing the only person who had (terrible) experiences with 3.5 Psionics or just don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

>>49215398
Isn't it basically just the same as a cleric for scrolls and options?

>>49215421
Pretty-fuckin-much.

Kinda the problem I have with my group. They make what 'could' be problems out of things that are already a thing with other classes.

It's why we never touch- correction- we're never allowed to touch 3pp. Nobody's willing to read the shit to figure out whether or not it's 'balanced' (for what balance is worth) and even if they are (ie I read something myself and start talking about it) it's always approached with skepticism and always, without failure, all commentary on said content is made in an extremely dismissive tone.

>>49210506
I see people say this all the time, but my experience in-game so far has not indicated this to actually be the case.

>>49210547
I dunno, a monk that another player was running in a high-level game rarely had any problems tripping or grappling his opponents.

>>49214869
There's a difference between
>use your power/riches/influence to systematically provoke conflict between two groups which are now antagonistic to one-another

and

>so there she was with her tits out and those four kings got into a fistfight, then swore eternal enmity over who would get to squeeze them first

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>>49215191
Hey, thanks for taking a look. I had been going to just leave it be for now, but your post made me go double-check the gun witch.

So, update.
>Gun Witches now have proficiency in guns

Regarding your points though...
>Spell prep
While this is very strong, I would definitely take into account what >>49215285 said. Their spell progression is /incredibly/ slow compared to full casters, so while there's added versatility, in the end it's generally going to be a lot lower (even if you can access day to day low-level silver bullets easily).

>Detect magic
I've actually been fiddling with that in chargen and discussions with my own group, and I've now made the choice to downgrade the always-up detect to 1st-round. Personally, I don't think the 2nd-round is an issue (Detect Magic is at-will, after all), but I /do/ think it'd be a bookkeeping nightmare to constantly track that. Now, concentrating on it will give you detection as if 3 rounds, but the passive is only a binary "is there magic around y/n"

>9th-level blindsense for spellcasters
This is very, very strong, and will be useful for finding hidden spellcasters and psionicists, but do note that it doesn't discriminate based on type. It will ping "someone who has picked up a cantrip in their lifetime" the same as "the BBEG in disguise," making it a decent detection tool but not something that will throw a wrench into everything

>Gun Witch
At the same time, the only native boost she gets to it is as part of that ability, and using it drastically cuts her ability to cast spells (since she used her nova spell already). Most of the gishy spellburst scholars will extensively use Quickened spells, but gun witches don't even get that. Personally, I'd say it's comparable to things like the Desperado Warlord. It is better than the Gunslinger, but that's honestly not a high bar. Ammunition costs are negligible past a certain point, and reloading tends to have a class feature (like this one) supporting it.

>>49215667
Yeah, yeah, background making it more complicated than it's name, but still.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_War

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>>49215700
>Gun Witches now have proficiency in guns
Aww, no monks not being proficient in their unarmed strikes joke?

>>49215731

STOP BULLYING THE COMPUTER PROGRAM.

>>49215731
I couldn't think of a good pun.

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>>49215777
Can we at least get a different pun instead?

>>49215667

Now now, you're going too basic with the hyper-whore's influence.

It would be more like one king really really wants to keep her as a treasured concubine because holy-shit-those-38-Charismas, but another King also touched her butt and wants her for the same thing.

They start to bicker and whip out the old grievances, and then nobility on both sides fan the flames because a good old war is just what they need to further their agendas.

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>>49215805
I aim to please.

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>>49215850
Yay! An Axe-olotl!

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Is the Investigator class considered any good? It seems like a lot of fun.

>>49216116
I really like the idea of it, but it honestly feels like a shitty vivisectionist. Although I could be super wrong

>>49216116
Inspiration's definitely neat, free applications of Inspiration to Knowledge, Linguistics, and Spellcraft's just gravy.

Studied combat does limit you to melee, especially if you want to use studied strike.

Can't really say much else right now because the only time I've played it, the campaign was put on hold after 2 sessions because time was an issue... and then suddenly a new campaign took it's time slot and everyone seems to be rolling with it.

>>49216116
>>49216141
You are indeed wrong, friend. the investigator is the best skill monkey in the game. It simply lacks combat ability, but you can make up for that with proper use of extracts and the infusion discovery.

>>49216116

I'd say it's the best skill monkey in the game, personally. Its combat performance isn't all that and a bag of chips, but it's still a pretty decent combatant, miles ahead of the rogue.

Particularly if the GM is not a faggot and doesn't make you pay a feat tax to use studied combat at range.

>>49216116
Depends on what you want to do. As a combatant it's a bit behind many of the heavy focused damage classes classes, though if you go for mutagen you can catch up a little bit.

As a skill monkey it's amazing, and Inspiration lets it pull off a couple of neat tricks. Plus it has alchemy.

Overall, it's a fairly solid Tier 3 class with a lot of options available for solving problems, though again, don't expect to be a damage machine.

>>49216183
Ah, okay, yeah, that would explain it. I'm a whore for combat, probably why I don't like it.

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>>49216205
>page 7
>foot fetish pic
Please die quickly and painfully.

>>49216116
Empiricist Investigator is the god of skill checks. Inspiration is fucking amazing, but it might take a while for it to really ramp up. ANY Investigator needs to beg their GM to let them have a talent at 1st level so they can alleviate the Infusion Tax. You'd also better hope your GM is letting you use Deadly Agility, or else you're stuck with a STR build or eating fat feat taxes for a Dex build. If you have Dex-to-damage, and if you can get a setup, studied combat+mutagen can turn you into whirlwhind, but you're not going to be a combat monster like an alchemist or barbarian.

Combat Inspiration is amazing for saving throws, but kind of meh for actually adding to attack rolls, IMO.

Lets try with a non fetishistic pic for the first time in forever:
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>>49211090
So basically, for that scenario, he'd use his attack and let's say he hit with both, each attack dealing 1d6 damage. He gets a 6 and a 5, basically making 1 hp of damage to the zombie. And then he'd roll another 2d6 damage(1d6 for each weapon) while in this stance, and the DR would apply for that as well for every 1d6?

>>49217610
No, each attack would do 2d6 damage. That poster was saying how the extra 1d6 on each attack counts as the type of damage the weapon deals. So if you hit with two attacks, and roll a 6 and a 5, then, say, a 2 and a 4, you deal 6 damage with the first, then 1 damage with the second, assuming your weapon doesn't bypass a zombie's DR.