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Magic - Kaladesh Spoiler Thread

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>Red is the shittest color in standard
>All red decks are meme decks
>No bolt no wins
>Standard is baby power level
>Chandra is the worst gatewatch member, Liliana is better
>No Chandra will ever surpass flamecaller

APOLOGIZE

NOW

62 of 264 cards revealed ATM
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>All red decks are meme decks

Is meme deck official just "deck I don't like" at this point?
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>>49196371
>standard
>standard
>standard

WHO CARES?
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>>49196371

The fire rises
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>>49196405
You think she's only going to see play in Standard?
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>>49196441
This is the first time in years I laugh of a Bane joke
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>>49196441
Chandra's master plan: to crash this plane. WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>49196398
I think it means non competitive decks or archetypes that people try to push as good and insist about it.

Like R/B vampires in SOI/EM and Werewolfs.dek.

Anything blue/x is a meme deck at this point thought, the only good blue cards are Elder Deep Fiend and Reflector Mage.
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>>49196474
No, that's Tezz. Chandra is the Hothead.
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>>49196456
No, but I doubt I'll see her.. maybe in commander.
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>>49196441
YOU STOLE MY ORIGINAL BANE JOKE FROM LAST THREAD I'LL SUE WHAT'S YOUR EMAIL
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>>49196514
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>>49196474
>Chandra
>not the hothead

one job
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>>49196529
What's so funny?
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>>49196546
>>49196441
>>49196474
TELL ME ABOUT TEZZERET! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE HOOD?
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>>49196474
>crash the plane
Right into phyrexia.
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>>49196371
Eh, Firebrand and Ablaze still have a niche but this is the objectively best one. I like it.
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>>49196475

Yeah, that's why a GU deck got second in a standard open yesterday. Because it's a meme deck that isn't actually good.

This is why the term is stupid, because it doesn't actually mean anything.
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>>49196586
If take off the arm, will you die?
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>>49196475
so, decks you don't like.
Got it.
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>>49196639
It would be extremely painful.
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>>49196648
Was getting caught part of your plan?
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>>49196674
YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP YOU FUCKED UP
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>>49196631
>>49196646
Can you call a deck blue when there's only 3 to 5 U/other color inside it and the other 90% is green or other color?

Blue as a dominant color, as a color based on control and negations is dead.
A meme color, with meme decks.
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>>49196648

You're a big planeswalker..
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>>49196712
But Tezzeret gets caught at the end of today's story.
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>>49196755
4U
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>>49196755
4U

>>49196758
You posted out of sequence.
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Wizards, please give me something cool as a payoff spell for pauper Tron. Now's your chance in the artifact set.
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>>49196758

WAS FUCKING UP PART OF YOUR PLAN?
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>>49196820
OF COURSHE
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Can someone do a TLDR of the current Kaladesh plot? I just returned and I don't know what the fuck is going on

>Why part of the gatewatch is on Kaladesh
>Why are chandra and liliana going full autism and ripping shit up
>Why is chandra's mother alive
>Why is Tezzeret on Kaladesh
>Why is he a high judge
>Why the fuck they would make a judge of a complete stranger not even from that world
>Who the fuck was Tezzeret I don't even remember

Really help, what the fuck
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>>49196820
Of courshe!
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>>49196774
>>49196784
2RR
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>>49196731
okay, first, Esper Dragons was a year ago.
Stop using 'dead' for 'weak for a brief period of time'.
Second, Clash of Wills, and Summery Dismissal mad it to the top 8 of Worlds. You are full of shit.

Third, mana is good right now, so people are playing 3 color decks. Saying blue is dead, because people are playing 3 color decks, many of which include blue, is fucking retarded.
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We can all agree with Chandra is bad though, right?
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>>49196855
tezzeret is the inventor planeswalker, he jizzes all over artifacts and is the artifact god.

He is also Nigga Balls best friend and he may bring The Farexiunz to Kalakush.
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>>49196896
Yes, sell me all of yours so i can burn them in a bonfire. She's clearly trash.
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>>49196868
post more
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>>49196813
they are going to make angel support and make bruna playable holy shit it is cool.
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>>49196951
At common though?
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>>49196870
>I add some low cost blue cards to my deck that don't require any kind of commitment nor are part of the central part of my strategy (win)
>Blue is not dead XD
>Blue is still dominant XDD
>WORLDS RESULTS XDDD

Yes, if a color is not doing jackshit for more than a year IS DEAD.
And saying that Bant Company represents blue spirit is retarded.

Just move on when your favorite color turns into the meme color, it will hurt you less anon.
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>>49196980
>color is not doing jackshit
>just ignore all these decks using this color, they don't count

Jesus you're retarded
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>>49196917
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>>49196980
But that's as retarded as saying every other color is dead just because they're all played in multicolor decks.

Can you manage to pull the blinds out of your eyes and realize it or are you just too bullheaded to see that?
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why does mtg even bother with standard/constructed

its obvious they want to just dedicate themselves to limited where most of the fun actually is
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>>49197029
White got amazing walkers, creatures and spells.
Black got amazing walkers, creatures and spells.
Red got chandra and a lot of nice shit in this set that will make good shit from past sets finally shit.
Green literally gets everything and more.
All these 4 colors also got engines to make awesome shit happen, like delirium and company.

Blue got... Reflector, Elder Deep and a couple of subpar negation cards that are merely support to the good colors and engines,

Blue was turned into the Medical slut of the game, she is mercy, taking cocks all day and saying "thanks may I have another cumshot?"

You all as blue "devoted" players are no different now.
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weren't we promised dovin baan by the end of the day?
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>>49197145
It's only 8:20 PST, so there's time.
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>>49196529

This card is literally too bad for everything but Standard and Commander.
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please god just let the red Gundam just anger the board
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>>49196855
>>Why part of the gatewatch is on Kaladesh
>>Why are chandra and liliana going full autism and ripping shit up
>>Why is chandra's mother alive
>>Why is Tezzeret on Kaladesh
>>Why is he a high judge
>>Why the fuck they would make a judge of a complete stranger not even from that world
>>Who the fuck was Tezzeret I don't even remember
Dovin Baan brought them to protect the fair or something.
Pia's still alive because her death wasn't explicit like chandra's father or something
Tezz gotta get dem artifacts. A planeswalker level artificer is probably the or one of the strongest on the plane so theres no reason to not make him a judge. He probably snuck in like a normal kaladesh citizen when he arrived.
He's the buddies with Bolas and was involved with the phyrexians on mirrodin.
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>>49197178
Red one probably has haste (trample is taken) and deals damage (4?) divided among creatures and/or planeswalkers you don't control.

Black one probably has lifelink (regenerate?) and returns an artifact/creature from the graveyard to the battlefield/your hand?

Blue one.. has hexproof (how can a giant robot fly? nb4 it flies anyway) and..... draws cards for each nontoken artifact you have? That seems pretty strong even if it's like 7 mana.
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>>49196371

this card is really good
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>over push Chandra
>after WoTC goes full feminist by denouncing that all demons are male
>by regretting making male angels
>by making Chandra a lesbian
>by banned pro players for being sexist
>by supporting TransWalkers(tm)

I seriously dont understand how feminist/SJW/liberals have been able to completely and utterly hijack every and all hobbies?

Movies, Books, Video Games, Card Games, Board Games, TV....

EVERYTHING has to cater to this fucking people now.
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>>49197239
Blue time walks. It'll be called time walker :^)
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>>49196855
>Gatewatch uses Tamiyo to advertise, gets first deal, Vedalken Walker named Baan.
>Baan doesn't get that Gatewatch is more about "stop planeswalkers from fucking things up" than "be planeswalkers and fuck things up", hires them to run security against some renegades in Kaladesh.
>Gets told that's not their job, but Chandra sympathizes with the renegade (see origin) and, with some convincing from Liliana and a pinch of instinct, planeswalks to warn them that Baan's not f*cking around.
>Gideon and Nissa follow after Baan hears the name "Nalaar" and repeats Chandra's origin to them. Jace gets held back to babysit the guilds on Ravnica.
>Liliana and Chanda get into all kinds of shit, eventually hunt down who they think the renegade is (was actually Tezz) and in doing so found who he was hunting (Pia Nalaar, 'cause they ain't dead 'till y'eh see the body).
>To be continued.
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>>49197255
>>by banned pro players for being sexist
wot? when/how?
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>>49197239
black one will have deathtouch bro, it will be the spinal tap collossus of motherfucker.
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I noticed some statements about jund

how is Naya looking with this?
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>>49197317
I know it will, but BIG THINGS DO NOT NEED DEATHTOUCH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WIZARDS.
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>>49197255
They made one male angel, and that was planeshifted. When have they made a female demon? Was it a special case?

Also, Chandra's not Lesbian, she's just out for a night on the town with a friend, probably ending with there no longer being a town. Maybe Bi, considering she's shot remarks at Gideon before.
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>>49197239
>how can a giant robot fly?

oh ye of little faith
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>>49197353
Nissa and Chandra are total Lesbos dude.
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>>49196371
>Red walker that isn't trash or only good in specific situations
HOLY FUCKING SHITBALLS STOP THE SPOILERS, WE HAVE OUR MVP
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>>49197353
Oh no, theyre going full on pandering with the whole Chandra/Nissa thing.
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>>49197403
>pandering to /u/
This can only mean bad things for the future.
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>>49197385
Chandra isn't an elf though.

Also holy fuck that was the worst "professional" canon story I've ever fucking seen WotC shit out and that's saying something.
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>>49197255
>All demons are male is SJW

That's just society. We're fine with watching the opening to Saving Private Ryan and watching a bunch of dudes get absolutely fucked up but when it happens to women we get squeamish.
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>>49197300
This plot is surprisingly not shit. Sure, its a bit of an asspull as to why they're on Kaladesh in the first place, but everything else is looking good.
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>>49197425
Interracial AND gay relationship. Hitting on all cylinders.

Also to be fair they've been hinting at it ever since the teamed up to change fireball Ulamog and Kozilek.
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>>49196371
can this guy put all the counters on himself to make a 8/8 trample creature for 5 mana?
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>>49197255
>EVERYTHING has to cater to this fucking people now.
oh how the tables have turned!
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>>49197431

Considering that Angels are universally female and nastily snuffing angels is WoTC's primary way of showing things are going bad, I don't know what to say to that.

People are reading an agenda into the angels are women, demons are men thing that isn't there. Half the time the angels aren't even good guys, and when they ARE they're usually the ones who get violently worfed to show how bad the bad guys are.
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>>49197489
Yes
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>>49197489
Yes but that would be dumb and not what makes him good. This is such a simple yet sort of skill testing because of thst. Most people see an 8/8 trample for 5 when that's really not it's best mode.
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>>49197492
>cutting off your nose to spite your face

Its like companies dont like money and/or respect that made them successful in the first place.
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>>49197489

Yes. People in an earlier thread said it was shit, and compared it to Wolfir Silverheart of all things.
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>Love the shit out of artifacts
>Can't stand the extremely obvious soulless corporate pandering to minorities

Kaladesh is going to be a mixed bag.
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>>49197509
Yeah, I don't think the angels and demons thing has any subtext to it. It's just how we traditionally see them. I feel it's kind of pointless to hard-line it that 100% there can be no gender swaps but I don't think there's any agenda there. Aetherborn are another thing though.
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>>49197523
>don't like money

Last time I checked, they were selling more cards than ever. I guess /pol/acks who don't play the game and just want something to be triggered over aren't a huge market.
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>>49197551

How is Kaladesh pandering to minorities? We've been to planes that aren't based on white cultures before. This isn't any different than Tarkir or Kamigawa.
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>>49197492
The people they're catering to don't buy the product. Same like Marvel.
They buy maybe 5 packs/ issues then piss off to whine about something else while the entrenched players/readers keep eagerly lapping it up.
It's more along the lines to stay "controversial" and relevant but it's pitifully shallow and ham handed.

These franchises will never go under but know that YOU are no longer their core demographic.
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>>49196475
That would have made sense if the term hadn't also been prolifically used to refer to Abzan Midrange when it was the top deck of Standard. It was always just 'decks I don't like'.
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>>49197527
Wolfir Silver heart was good in standard. This thing is mostly better than I with the main downside being is that it's not also an 8/8 when you pump something else +4 but without trample it didn't matter anyway. What the fug
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>>49197577

Don't reply, he's a baby who has likely never heard of Jamuraa before.
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>>49197551

>a bunch of white males literally can't want to share with females and non-whites

Jesus Christ.

Just because corporate culture requires that you sell everything, it doesn't mean that the thing made wasn't made honestly.
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>>49197593
delete this
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>>49197509
>Half the time the angels aren't even good guys,
Try "in maybe a couple of sets angels aren't even good guys", Selenia is the only other Angel I can think of that is evil.

Bad things rarely happen to women in Magic and in media in general. I think it's unfair to point as Magic as being unique in this regard.
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Uh reading the wikia to catch up

>Eventually, Tezzeret and Jace were pitted against each other due to the manipulations of a third party. Jace and his lover, Liliana, invaded Tezzeret's sanctum. Tezzeret captured Jace and allowed his second in command Baltrice to torture Jace while Tezzeret worked on a device that would turn Jace into his puppet.

>Jace and his lover, Liliana, invaded Tezzeret's sanctum.

>Jace and his lover, Liliana

>Jace and his lover, Liliana

What? Was this confirmed? I thought it was just shippers being retarded.
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It was a short fling that died out quickly.

Jace is too awkward to hold a relationship (being able to read your lovers mind at any given time makes for funny moments) and Liliana was too busy doing her own thing and couldnt stay with him (demons to kill)
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>>49197627
>Selenia is the only other Angel I can think of that is evil
>Bad things rarely happen to women in Magic and in media in general

Could post more, but this is easier than posting the like 15 cards from the latest Conspiracy set where horrible shit happens to women in the art.
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>>49197577
Anon's probably talking about "in general" rather than "in Kaladesh"

>>49197593
A bunch of black people on a plane literally based of africa makes sense.
a bunch of black people on a plane based on gothic europe does not make sense.
hiring a black nerd girl consultant when designing a black planeswalker is obvious pandering and fucking retarded.
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>>49197610

>be born literally inferior
>see superior people having fun
>bitch about it
>superiors leave to another fun thing
>previous fun thing collapses because superiors were holding it up
>superiors having fun

the cycle never ends
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>>49197628
they fugged or something, but broke up soon after because Liliana is Liliana.
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>>49197628
Jace wanted some fuck from Emmara Brandeis too. he likes his women a little bit older. Like 100s of years of older.
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>>49197662
>>49197627

Yeah women got fucked in SOI and EDM. The most horrific art in MTG is easily Brisela.
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>>49197659
She will probably into lesbians soon if not this block because that's what's trendy.
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>>49197677
>a bunch of black people on a plane based on gothic europe does not make sense.

I have the feeling that you're a retard who associates "gothic Europe" with the middle ages. Not that it matters, since it's a fucking fantasy world and not the actual historical places they take inspiration from.
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Well, at least we had a couple spoiler threads in there without /pol/ shitting them up with nonsense that has nothing to do with the game.
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>>49197558
Trannies, gays and whatever the fuck else is included in that overarching group barely account for 4% of the population, and an even tinier minority of them would play MTG. It doesn't make sense to try and change something to specifically cater to their tastes, save for the browny points you'll get from everyone for doing it.

Wizards aren't doing this to make them feel welcome. It's just a glorified PR stunt and moral signalling. If I were gay, I'd be insulted by poorly written all of these characters are.

>>49197677
>Anon's probably talking about "in general" rather than "in Kaladesh"

This.
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>>49197700
I hope when we get Return to Return to Ravnica we get a redo on Emmara Tandris because she is a fucking bombshell and but her card I unplayable.
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>>49197677
You do know that something can be based on or inspired by something but doesn't need to slavishly imitate all aspects of it right?
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>>49197712


>b-but it's fantasy

B=but that's poor writing.
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>>49197662
>Could post more, but this is easier than posting the like 15 cards from the latest Conspiracy set where horrible shit happens to women in the art.

Compared to the 30+ cards where something horrible happens to men?

Meanwhile, a woman is now king of Paliano (who ordered a woman planeswalker to kill the spirit of a man).

Quit while you're ahead, cuzz

>>49197593
Oh yeah man remember when Kaervak was a white dude and there was this tribe of perfectly white and asians and there was also a gay couple and a trans supporting character?
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>>49197743

They aren't "blowing any points," because your average person does not go into an autistic frothing rage over these things like you do. People are still buy packs and playing the game, in a larger quantity than ever, because the people who give a shit about this in a card game of all things are far less than 4% of the population.
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>>49197627

Legendary Angels:
>Akroma: Neutral, focused entirely on defeating Phage, died
>Anya, Merciless Archangel: Evil
>Avacyn: Went insane, turned evil, died
>Aurelia: Insane warmonger, strongly evil-leaning
>Basandra: No lore implications one way or the other
>Bruna: Went insane, turned evil, died
>Gabriel Angelfire: Shouldn't count
>Gisela: Went insane, turned evil, died
>Iona: Good, but lost to the eldrazi
>Jenara: Don't actually remember, did she take part in the story at all?
>Radiant: Went crazy, turned evil, died
>Razia: Used by the Dimir, died
>Reya Dawnbringer: Good
>Selenia: Evil, died
>Sigarda: Good, spared most of the shit that went down on Innistrad
>Tariel: Ambiguously good/evil
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>>49197763

How is it poor writing to recognize that taking inspiration from a culture is not literally creating a 1:1 copy of that culture? Are you dense?
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T1: thraben inspector, investigate, meaty enough to stick around a few turns
T2: vessel
T3: sac vessel, get chandra, now +1 for draw/damage (likely damage as you likely won't have any mana unless you happened to lay down a third land that turn, which even then will only be one mana), or +1 for RR then use RR to sac the clue for draw.
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>>49197779
I kind of thought Akroma/ixidor were mostly antagonists.
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>>49197610
>Just because corporate culture requires that you sell everything, it doesn't mean that the thing made wasn't made honestly
No, that's exactly what it means. When a series stars pandering to this or that group, its a clear sign that the product's success lies more in its marketing than its merit.

>>49197712
>>49197760
I want my fantasy to be immersive and authentic. sue me.
Although, I will give credit where credit is due. At least Wizards is putting white people in NotIndia! at the same time as they're putting black people in NotEurope and NotGreece!
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>>49197817
>authentic

It's not the actual place, it's a fantasy world that takes inspiration from things like a region's folklore and aesthetics. How is this so hard for /pol/acks to get?
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>>49197742
The problem has gotten really bad, at least chatting about it on my friends fb group has been pretty chill
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>>49197779
Where the hell did you get that Anya was evil but acknowledge that Basandra had no lore

Also Aurelia isn't evil. she is a zealot but not evil. Boros were protagonistic in both Ravnica sets.
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I'm actually from /pol/ and I think some of you are blowing some of this way out of proportion.

Yes the surprise lesbians thing was fucking stupid and was clumsy and forced. Hell that entire story was fanfiction.net tier.

But as long as WotC isn't insisting I'm pure evil for being white and/or male or blatant clumsy liberal politics in their policies writing or setting I don't really give a shit.

Sit back and keep away from the designated shitting streets as we watch the jactice league screw the pooch again.
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>>49197883

Aurelia's a straight-up psychopath. The fact the Boros have seriously gone downhill since Feather's day can be laid squarely at her doorstep.

Anya and Basandra both have flavor blurbs from the EDH releases. Basandra's doesn't really say one way or another if she's good or evil, just that she doesn't allow for trickery in the battles she oversees, while Anya's flavor is that she grows strong on the approach of death and kills people. The most positive thing said about her is that she gives swift death to the deserving.
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>>49197777
>They aren't "blowing any points,"

Did you even read what I said? 'Browny points,' not 'blowing any points'. Reading comprehension is key.

> because your average person does not go into an autistic frothing rage over these things like you do.

Anyone who talks about something I don't like is automatically autistic, frothing and angry.

>because the people who give a shit about this in a card game of all things are far less than 4% of the population.

And even less of that population would be the minorities that are being pandered to. 4% of 4%. Like I said, moral signalling. It's the same shit that EA tried to pull years ago.
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>>49196371
FLAMING PIGGU~
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>>49197902
I mean, to be fair, if there HAD to be lesbians in the Gatewatch, hippie granola girl nuNissa and Chandra would be it.

First choice should have been beefslab gids due to being from ancient Greece and his fuckboy Jace though.
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>>49197839
That isn't what I meant by authentic.
If the entire world is one culture and one climate, why would there be different ethnicities? Why would some humans evolve significantly more melanin then other humans? More importatnly, why would these ethnic differences still exist after generations of people with the same culture interbreeding.
If you gave me a setting based on fucking scandenavia and made every single human in that setting black, that would be authentic. I could understand that its not scandenavia and thus people don't need to be white.
If you gave me any setting with only one culture and one climate, there is no reason for there to be more than one ethnicity. That's just weird.
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>>49197917
But she isn't "evil". Her problem is said explicitly to be just that she takes too much to warring and battle. Again. She's a zealot but not outright evil. She doesn't have bad in mind. The guilds of Ravnica are mostly just massive, one note caricatures.

Anya just sounds like an angel of death. That's not an evil role and it wasn't painted that way imo.
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>>49197957
Nissa should think everything non-elven is disgusting; removing her hitler persona to generic her up to be the new face of green was a bland and expected move.
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>>49197509
I think the true problem is that they are willing to print male angels but not female demons.
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>>49197779
>Forgetting Linvala

Also, they're not legendary but just look at Chancellor of the Annex and Shattered Angel.

Other pretty bad shit that happened to women in Magic card art off the top of my head:

>Induce Despair
>Grip of Desolation
>Grasp of Darkness in Scars block
>Befoul
>Horobi's Whisper
> Emmara Tandris
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>>49197975

Have there been planes with one culture and one climate? It's not very clear with Theros, but Innistrad certainly isn't, as they reference another continent across the sea with weretigers and other exotic monsters when talking about how the Cursemute in AVR didn't get rid of all the werewolves.

So that's why there are black people in Innistrad; they're descended from the people on the other continent, because I imagine both continents on that god-forsaken rock are bad enough people are fleeing back and forth across the sea.
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>>49198012
They printed one male angel and it was an alternate reality themed set. They dony otherwise make male angels.
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>>49196371

I don't think She'll be too prominent in red aggro decks. I'd play her in Jund Walkers though.

>Card Advantage
>Mana that can be used to defend Chandra with removal, or ramp to big threats
>Kills Kalitas
>Emblem might be win harder, but the two plus abilities make up for it
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>>49198026
I want to fuck shattered angel
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>>49197169
See >>49196529
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>>49198030
Did they mention that there were black people on the other continent, or did you assume that, because they're weretigers, they must be black?
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>>49196586
PERHAPS HES WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD SHOOT A MAN BEFORE THROWING HIM OUT OF A FAIR
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>>49197774
Oh, a namefag being stupid. That's new!
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>>49198070
>or did you assume that, because they're weretigers, they must be black?
busted
Privilege status: checked
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>>49198070

Werecreatures on Innistrad take the form of a local fauna; in this case, wolves, as found in the european-ish locale Innistrad has.

Logically, it would follow that the locale you find weretigers in, tigers are as common as wolves, and so it would follow it has a climate you'd find real-life tigers in.

Last I checked, people tend to be darker in climates where you find tigers.
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>>49198058
>dat rack
>dat ahegao
>dat squat
>dat POV

anon she's begging you
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>>49198093
Wiseguy, huh? At least he can talk. Who are you?
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>>49198120
The people where you find tigers (SEA, India, and Siberia) range from whitish to brown, no real black people.
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>>49198138
It doesn't matter who I am. What matters is Bolas's plan.
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>>49198070
They actually mentioned other continents (plural) in the lore for the first Innistrad block. It's definetly implied that they correspond more or less to the continents on our planet.
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>>49197902
Hey fellow /pol/ack, I'm totally in agreement with you.

There are bigger things to redpill on than "muh lack of melanin", and that is how absolutely fucking cash Kaladesh is shaping up to be
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>>49198203
If I pull that off, would you die?
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>>49198042
>Ignoring Gabriel.
Typical SJW playing with selective data.
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>>49198120
Other continent could just be siberia/china. tigers live there. Could be filled with Asians for all you know.

You are also assuming that this other continent has natives that are a different skin colour - something for which you have no proof, and, in fact, there is more proof for the opposite; that just like innistrad-europe is racially diverse for some reason, that innistrad-tigerland is racially diverse as well.
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>>49198229
It would be extremely painful.
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>>49198229
It would be infinite consortium.
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>>49198216

Kaladesh looks like a bigger pile of poo than the country it's based off of
>entire fucking millenia of culture to delve from
>entire pantheons
>endless amounts of mythology
>NO FUCK IT WE'RE STEAM PUNK PAJITS

At least Kamigawa had some delving into japanese myths. This is just brown people steampunk
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>>49198245
More like GAYbriel Angelfire
Just like u
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>>49198271
For you. Is Tezzeret's arm even attached directly to his body? Would it really be painful for him?
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>>49198216
next set we'll see just how far they'll go since we're headed to the land of KANGZ
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>>49198288
It's Esper tech. That shit doesn't need to be attached.
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No one cared who I was until I put on the arm.
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>>49198347
But is it like connected to his nervous system? Would pulling it off be analogous to tearing off an actual arm in terms of the pain factor?
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>>49198368
Although I'd like to say that it'd be extremely painful, chances are it wouldn't hurt at all.
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>>49198278
are you retarded. its not a plane based on india, it just features brown people. Jesus people around here are idiot racists.
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>>49198289
I'm actually gonna be super happy if I see flavor text that has kang descendants fighting to retake a forgotten throne from Bolas in KANGS: the Plane. Meme magic would reach unstoppable levels

PRAISE KEK!
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>>49198368
I think it would pull and tear at his body a little but it wouldn't be to bad.
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>>49198410
>the pharaoh's name is literally Pharaoh Kaeng.
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>>49198396
>>49198418
What if it's just sort of held there by some force and not really connected? So if someone pulls it off, it still behaves as if it's attached while being, say, 30 feet away. It could also be its own entity or something and we'd have Tezzy's Arm's Magical Adventures or some shit.
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>>49198406

Kaladesh is very clearly Indian based with the UR planeswalker being very obviously Indian.

>are you retarded.
>.

shaking my head
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>>49198460
Cause if that happened, I'm certain someone (either Tezzy or some other Esperian) would have tried it already
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>>49198464
You proved him wrong and right at the same time.
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>>49198454
>Pharaoh Keang's empire was overthrown by Bolas's henchmen who were, my mere coincidence, pale men
>half the men wear powdered wigs just because
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>>49196475
>spell queller
>jvm

Not to mention the plethora of strong instants
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>>49198522
>Kaengs people were mad slaves, forced to build pyramid monuments for bolas, and pick cotton for some reason
>Bolas' loyalists are literal white devils (as in the kind you pay white mana for)
>Their leader is a tyrant named Drumpf, who uses the slaves to build walls
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>>49198460
I can imagine him ripping off his own arm and throwing it like a psychotic boomerang.
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>>49198576
>spell queller

Doesn't count, along with all of the bant shit that is currently dominating, because it's not just blue.

Seriously, that's his retarded logic.
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>>49197489
Too slow for competitive memedern but goddamn do I love this card
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>>49198464
there's a brown planeswalker. What else about this plane is indian? Their ingenuity? Deities? Design style?
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>>49198577
>Drumpf is an ogre warlord who has layers like onions
>is obsessed with walls and defender
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>>49198628
and Jace doesn't count because he's cheap and not a counter spell
and the counterspells that were present in the top 8 worlds decks don't count because because I say so.
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>>49196398
Meme means:
Things people keep doing even if they're shit and no longer funny.

Example; random funny EDH cuckmander decks, BR aggro in eternal, voting for trump
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This is good.
I'll try it in naya zoo
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>>49198703
>>>/leftypol/
Go away
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>>49198749
ALERTA!
ALERTA!
I CALL MY BROTHERS OF THE ALERTA ANTIFASCISTA!!!!!
FUCKING /pol/ RETARD!!!!
KILL THE /pol/ RETARD!!!!
/tg/=PROUD ANTIFA LEFT WING RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY BOARD!!!
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Does red get to be decent again between this and Incendiary Flow?

>>49198784
>anti-fa
I sure hope you're memeing at this point and not literally this retarded.
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>>49197957
It's not gay when gideon does it m8.

Also jace is too old.
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>>49198797
I hope you fucking kill yourself drumpfite retard!!
REPRESENT!
ALERTA!!!!
>>>/pol/
GO FUCKING HOME YOU STUPID RACISTS!
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>>49198797
>harnessed lightning
>decent
It's bad creature removal but good energy generation. I hate that it can't hit face.
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>>49198797
>No "or player"
Dropped.
I don't even want to hit players usually, I just want to be able to kill planeswalkers.
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>>49198818
>does nothing but scream at me without knowing anything about why I hold the views I do
The more I try and tell myself that leftists aren't so bad the more I realize you need the gas chamber. You seem totally incapable of accepting others could have opposing beliefs and also post on the same board as you.
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>>49198886
We get it, you're shitposting.
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>>49198886
My views:
Shit mate planet is running out of space
Can't just go colonize America when we get large political/religious disagreements
Guess the next step is space travel
Leftism will destroy us before we develop space travel but once they can fuck off to their own rock I don't care.
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>>49198900
We get it, you're a stupid >>>/pol/ racist, now FUCK OFF!
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>>49198929
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>49198918
So
>Racism and xenophobia
>Imperialism and racism
>anti-science fascist. Science is always LEFTISTS.
>Wrong side of history.
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>>49198953
>Science is always LEFTISTS.
Except when that science proves blacks are more aggressive then whites, then it's a lie!
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>>49198976
>responding to shitty bait
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>>49198976
mhmmm yess?
Fucking stupid racist.

>>49198942
>>49198989
ITT: STUPID RACIST AND BUTTHURT RACISTS GETTING BTFO BY PROUD ANTIFA!
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>>49198278
They're not gonna make a set based on a mythology that's actually believed and practiced by millions of currently living people.
>>
So I presume Kaladeshi Aether is probably the same fundamental thing as Esper Etherium, and that's got something to do with Tezzeret being there and a high judge of all things? Maybe Nicol Bolas trying to use his minion's power over the A/Ether/ium to annex the plane?
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>>49197628
Read the agents of artifice book, they were a couple.
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>>49199021
>>49198976
>>49198953
>>49198918
>>49198929
Can't wait for this fucking election to be over so we can actually talk about things.
USA elections bring out the worst in everyone.

Anyways, hoping we get some more interesting artificers in white. Really want to build a deck with inventor's goggles with this girl at the helm
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>>49199112
Etherium is some weird metal made by a sphinx (that was maybe a planeswalker). Aether is a substance found in the Blind Eternities that flows through Kaladesh for some reason.
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>>49198406
Kaladesh is explicitly said by the creative team to be based on India, it's just not a top down Indian mythology block.
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>Plane of artifice
>Nothing to do the greatest artificer of all

This makes my 90s-era inner child sad.
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>>49199207
Tezzeret is the new Urza
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>>49196371
Remember guys all that glitters is not gold.

Standard Rotation = -25% (on average)

>BUY YOUR SHIT FOR MODERN
>GET YOUR KALITAS IN A WEEK
>IT WILL DROP IN PRICE.
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>>49199275
Wait until just before the next set in the expansion releases before you buy anything you want
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>>49197975
>Why would some humans evolve significantly more melanin then other humans?

I dunno, why would Elves, Dwarves and Vedalken evolve in the same place when they all clearly fill the sameecological niche? Magic isn't really something you should be asking for ecological consistency because it has literally never been there.
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>>49198733
>4/3 trampler for 2
>leaves something behind if it dies.

holy shit it is good.
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>>49198797
>kill token or a 1/1
>energy leftover

>have energy
>remove fatties

gud. this whole energy bullshit is getting really versatile with those istants/sorceries because they can be used differently in different times of the game.
I like them.
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>>49198797
>"may spend energy"
>may
Spend 0 and generate 3 energy
>cast another one and spend 0 to generate 3 energy
>spend 6 energy and activate your aetherworks marvel and put any card from the top 6 of your library into play for free
Wew lad
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>>49199781
Probably going to have an energy deck in Standard.

Just needs a U or 1U cantrip that generates energy and maybe Sleight of Hands.
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>>49199781
>look at 6 lands
>you can't cast lands
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>>49199968
Even a R/G energy deck seems like it could work

Generate all the energy
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>>49199781
That's probably one of the actual worst ways to spend your energy.
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>>49197424
...like half-elf magicbabbies?
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Magic now copying card designs from Hearthstone. We've gone full circle.
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>>49199257
Well Urza stayed on a plane called Shiv for a while, so it might make sense that Tezzy is a descendant of his, or something.
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>>49200268
Shiv is a location on the plane of Dominaria.
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>>49200261
>What is Dovescape
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>>49200261
That's not even a new effect, besides, that card has probably been designed like two years ago
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>>49200290
>baby dont hurt me
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>>49200261
not even a hearthstone card
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>>49200371
It's pretty much Summoning Stone/Medivh.
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>>49200391
This card has been ready a long time before those cards even existed in HS. Besides, aside from summoning creatures from spells, which is not something new nor inventive, the way they function is worlds apart
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>>49198678
Technologically, they're Edwardian Era turn of the century. But with Magic. Kind of one of those Legend of Korra situations, though Korra is closer to jazz age about 20 years later.

As far as we know, they worship no gods but SCIENCE and PROGRESS.

Design, however, is very a different matter. Compare Rai's sari to formal indian wear. They're identical.
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>>49200622
Scientifically POO IN LOO
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>>49200656
Oh shut up you twat.
>>
Selesnya Eldrazi

3x Eldrazi Displacer
3x Whispweaver Angel
2x Panharmonicon
3x Foul Emissary
3x Eyeless Watcher
3x Tireless Tracker
3x Eldritch Evolution
4x Thought-Knot-Seer
4x Filigree Familiar
4x Declaration in Stone
3x Thraben Inspector
4x Fortified Village
4x Canopy Vista
2x Inventor's Fair
4x Crumbling Vestige
5x Forest
6x Plains

Post rotation list. The idea is to combo off with 2 Whispweaver Angel, a Panharmonicon, and a Thought-Knot-Seer to make your opponent draw their entire deck and lose on drawstep.

Kaladesh has enabled combo decks in standard again, and I love it.
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>>49200391
Was gonna reply but >>49200450 is spot on with them functioning entirely differently
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>>49200622
>>49198678
>>49198464
>>49198406
>>49198278
It's a block with an artifacts-matter focus given a coat of Indian paint.

Just like how Theros had an Ancient Greece focus with a coat of enchantments-matter on top of that.
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>>49200667
Stop giving uncreative and unfunny shitposters (You)s.
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>>49200677
I think we should have a Global Rule similar to GR15, but for /pol/.
>>
So we've got 2 gearhulks:
Cataclysmic Gearhulk
Verduous Gearhulk
What will the:
B Gearhulk
R Gearhulk
U Gearhulk
be? It's looking like a pretty good cycle so far.
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>>49200712
>It's looking like a pretty good cycle so far

It's a cycle of giant mecha with badass art, of course it's going good
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>>49200712
Red will get one that would be great for aggro only it costs 2 more than it should.
Blue will get a piece of awful jank that has clunky synergy with instants and sorceries.
Black will get something fair but ultimately unplayable in constructed featuring graveyard recursion.
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>>49200744
>>49200737
Well the two we have so far have something to do with options
I feel like R will just deal x damage split how you want but I'm pretty sure Wizards will be a bit more creative than that.
U might freeze things?
I hope B will be something like: return any amount of creatures to play with total cmc 4/5
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>>49200676
They have literally said so during PAX. Some indian asked them about it.

I fail to see what thathas to do with her not being indian. Did Theros not have enchantments in it or something? No, it was covered in them? I guess this plane has a lot of indian-styled humans then, in addition to living pollution hedenists and 6-fingerd vedalkens, as just an incontestable quirk of the plane.
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>>49198278
because it's not rabian nights.

it was "oh we gonna make some inventors now. wait who do we use as the people? Chandra has an "aa" in her last name, maybe India? sure why man not."

They said as much at PAX.

What are you the SJW twat who threw a fit at the lore panel come on here to throw another fit because they shot you down?
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>>49200816
You're retarded.
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>>49200982
:(
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>>49197353
>probably ending with there no longer being a town
Okay okay, you burn him to death, then I raise him, then you light the zombie on fire so we've got walking torches running around. Sound fun?
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>>49197255
>all demons are male
Does this mean we will never get a juicy succubus card?

Or that succubi are devils not demons?
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>>49197347
you're right, let's give it infect instead. been a while since we've had a colossus like that. effectively the same as deathtouch 99% of the time, but more deadly to players.
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>>49197760
>slavishly
HA
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>>49200676
Uh, about that...

Maro said in his article that Kaladesh is NOT an artifact-matters block.

Excuse me while I go panic.
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>>49200704
its offtopic, so technically speaking, if mods would just do their flipping job it would already be more or less the case.
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>>49201130
that's true, to an extent. other than the metalcraft land, can you think of another thing where artifacts "matter" in this set?

instead they're all stuff that benefit artifacts, or make artifacts.
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>>49197300
>>Gideon and Nissa follow...
Only Nissa leaves for Kaladesh. Gideon and Jace stayed on Ravnica.
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>>49201231
The spoilers has just started.
With barely any black, blue or red cards spoiled.
>>
>hop in thread to read about mtg spoilers and strats
>it's all /pol/ trash and whining
Glad to see /tg/ never changes. Stay classy, neckbeards.
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>>49200704
We do.
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies...
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>>49201827
>these rules
>on 4chan
kek
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>>49201959
4chan has many rules; it is because shitposters like you choose to ignore them that the site is a chaotic, cancerous mess.
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>>49202054
just go to reddit then
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>>49202111
Bitch, until those rules get scrubbed from the rules page, you're the one who needs to leave.
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>>49202154
>you're the one who needs to leave.
after a decade of being here, fuck off.
Aslo lets get back on topic and stop being offended by "racist" truths, I mean things
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>>49201959
Yes, 4chan has always had rules and if you choose not to follow them, you get banned. This has always been a thing, and I don't think you quite understand what 4chan is.
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>>49202191
>I don't think you quite understand what 4chan is.
I don't think you value enough the opportunity that this site provides. Go try to have a discussion like what was discussed before the "boo-oo" of the last few posts, on any other site and look at the result. At least here, we can call a nigger a nigger.

Anyways, back on fucking topic guys.
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>>49202212
>unfunny racist twat
>calling out the unfunny racist twat
>racist twat cheers that they can be an unfunny racist twat if they want
>pointing out that no, that is against the rules
you're right, if the rules were enforced we wouldn't have offtopic bullshit started by someone being a racist twat.
Oh the horror. Go back to stormfront if you want post racist bullshit and get cheered for it.
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>>49202495
fun fact, this was my first post in this thread >>49201959
what I mean is that you should come here at all if you mind some "racist" comments.
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>>49202191
PeOple keep fOrgetting about rules IN the site, LOOk on the brightside, we have a new magic set
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>>49202788
That was almost creative, good job!
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>>49197555
It's not an agenda in this case, I think wizards just decided to stick with it because it's what we enjoy really.
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>>49197129
jokes on you,I love when they fill my ass with love and tender
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>>49199164
>This with the new goggles
Yes pls
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>>49200329
more like
>baby dont bird me
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>>49198797
zada and mirrorwing turn this into just "1R: energy for days"
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>>49203085
not a terrible idea, if you will have something to spend it on
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>>49203091
>Aetherworks Marvel + an untap effect
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>>49203091
Plenty of options.
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>>49203091
not the hardest thing in the world if you can manage any amount of board presence.
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>>49203126
wait, just realized that only triggers once per harnessed lightning. still doable, but higher bar set.
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>>49196371
And in stark contrast to Chandra the Flame Sculptor, we have....

LOL
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>>49203187
2/2 lols

These are the Planeswalker deck face cards.

>all that speculation that Wizards would fuck up and print a broken walker
You fags underestimate Wizards' ability to print disappointment on cardboard.
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>>49203230
Helps to post images
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>>49203187

Wow, that just seems unplayable.

Like, even in limited that won't really do much of anything.
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>>49197817
This whole discussion shows that it was a mistake to base planes off real world cultures.
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>>49203187
>>49203245
>>49196371
I don't get it
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Seems decent, maybe not constructed decent.. but maybe.
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This + Top + Blightsteel ?
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>>49203315
I think it's really good for standard and draft
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>>49203285
This Nissa and this Chandra are for the new Planeswalker decks for new players. They're not designed to be genuinely competitive, only to be simple and representative of their colors.

Check the card numbers.
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>>49203315
Say hello to your 'burn', red.

From the article:

>...we've had a number of variants on the fragile-but-fast red creature that acts somewhat like a burn spell, somewhat like a creature.

>On its own, the Hellion comes out of nowhere and hits for 4 damage on an empty board for just three mana. That's not a bad rate, as far as burn decks are concerned... You lose the flexibility of a Flame Javelin or an Exquisite Firecraft, but what you gain is the opportunity to hit for more.
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>>49203387
>2R for 'deal 4 damage to target player and get two energy counters as long as your opponent doesn't have a board'

Do they have any understanding of what burn means?
>>
>>49203245
Wow, that art is even worse than the good Chandra's art.
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>>49203187
It's fucking immortal though.

At the point you need to deal eight damage to a walker, you could as well half-murder your opponent.
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>>49203361
Wait so are these for starter decks, or do I actually have a n equal chance of pulling these terrible walkers as I am of getting Chandra the Flame Sculptor
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>>49203315
4/4 for 3 with haste, seems pretty aight.
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>>49203450
Look at the collector numbers. They go over the set's total, so they're not in packs.
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Here's the real Nissa in packs.

Still hot garbage.
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>>49203245
what the fuck is this, why another one?
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>>49203504
Planeswalker deck. RTFT.
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>>49203462
thank god.
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>>49203501
That's not hot garbage. If you're able to protect Nissa for the turn after she's played, you can easily chuck that emblem out.

It's not a game-deciding emblem but I'd say it's worth the 3GG investment.
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>>49203342
This plus platinum emperion as only artifact in your deck.
Or this plus soulfire grandmaster for all free artifacts.
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>>49203501
>Plus: Meh. Seems like a healthy beater
>Minus: Complete shit, only ever will be used in edh
>Ult: Might be viable since it ults the turn after it comes out
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Sins of the Past for instants only in blue on a body.

At Mythic.
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>>49203550
If only part the waterveil didn't exile itself on the first cast
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>>49203501
>that +1
This feels like a bad idea. maybe all the "dies to removal" arguments have gotten to me, but I feel like this is just a way to take a moment every turn and go "I sure hope you don't have a kill spell" and then wince every time your opponent touches a card in their hand.
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>>49203550

>3GG
>3WW
>4UU

Why do you hate blue Wizards?
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>>49203550
It's a cycle all of the jaegers I mean gear hulks are mythic.
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>>49203550
What next, Erupting Gearhulk?
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>>49203515
I still have no idea wtf you are talking about, what decks?
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>>49203578
>4UU for a 5/6 with flash and a free instant that's in your graveyard

Yeah, that's totally trash.
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>>49203569
Part the waterveil is also a sorcery so you wouldn't be able to get it anyways.
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>>49203583
>It's a cycle all of the jaegers
Yay! That means I get to post this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWFXdiezkY
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>>49203550
Fatcaster Mage
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>>49203597
The replacements for intro decks that almost no one buys.
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>>49203501
It's basically, "protect for one turn, then all your lands cantrip".
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>>49203455
>rare

>>49203501
I think she can be okay. 5 mana to get that ult the turn after she comes out with her +1 protecting her.
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>>49203550
So... How do you like this cycle of fixed Titans?
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>>49203625
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>>49203625
>>49203638
Wow, that's really shitty
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>>49203638
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These are fun
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>>49203597
Wizards wants beginners to play with planeswalkers and know the characters, without the price of entry being too high, so starting kaladesh, they'll release intro decks with intentionally low-power planeswalkers, and some cards centered around those planeswalkers.
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>>49203642
>thopter/sword 2.0
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>>49203654
Also worth noting they replace the old intro deck things.
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>>49203642
>>49203652
Sweet, a self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>49203652
the first is strong but more combotastic.

i think the real good one is the decoction module:
getting free energy and saving your creatures from removal is good.
plenty of ETB effects and flash in bant company cards and kaladesh too.
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>>49203642
>Drop all three of these
>4-tap the fabrication module
>Suddenly servobears.
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>>49203597
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/ramp-approval-2016-05-16

Read this article and stop asking stupid questions.

INSTEAD OF INTRO DECKS AS A WAY OF INTRODUCING NEW PLAYERS TO MTG, THERE ARE NOW PLANESWALKER DECKS.

PLANESWALKER DECKS ARE CALLED PLANESWALKER DECKS BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN PLANESWALKERS THAT ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PLANESWALKER DECKS AND NOT TO BE COMPETITIVE.

NISSA, NATURE'S ARTISAN IS A PLANESWALKER FOR A PLANESWALKER DECK FOR NEW PLAYERS. YOU CANNOT FIND THIS CARD ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR IN A PLANESWALKER DECK.
CHANDRA, PYROGENIUS IS A PLANESWALKER FOR A PLANESWALKER DECK FOR NEW PLAYERS. YOU CANNOT FIND THIS CARD ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR IN A PLANESWALKER DECK.

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO DRAW THESE CARDS FROM BOOSTER PACKS.

IF YOU ARE NOT A NEW PLAYER YOU HAVE NO REASON TO BUY PLANESWALKER DECKS AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE CARDS EVER UNLESS YOU PLAY AGAINST SOMEONE USING THEM IN STANDARD BECAUSE THEY'RE A NEW PLAYER.

To put it plainly, neither of those cards should matter to you because if you're an experienced player that only plays with other experienced players, you should literally never see them.
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>>49203631
they're kinda inverse primordials. honestly the rare/mythic cycle of "big dudes what do things" goes back a good while. at least to the bringers in fifth dawn, but I expect there were others earlier than that.
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>>49203668
More like mirrodin stations 2.0
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>>49203668
>except requiring 1 more card and not providing a disgustingly huge lifepad to secure the win
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>>49203652
Flavour points for ulting Sarheeli and grabbing all three of these
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>>49203692
except not infinite or game winning on the spot
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>>49203685
okay thanks. Sorry I never read things from their site, I just look at spoilers on mtg salvation and here
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>>49203626
Rarity doesn't matter regarding a card's playability.
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>>49196371
>>49203501
Not insignificant to note that Nissa and Chandra are paired up again in the same set. Wizards please.
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>>49203550
6 mana for a 5/6 with flash+any instant you played so far seems aight.
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>>49203727
It really should.
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>>49203685
Unless your an EDH player that runs a themed deck based off of them...

I have a friend that runs a Jace EDH deck where its filled with every version of Jace, the commander is jace, and most cards are ones that have him referenced, either in the lore, flavor, picture or name on the card. He would love a Jace deck in the future.

I would love a new Ajani version for myself. More Plainswalkers just adds to my superfriends 5 color deck of jank and seeing as these are mediocre as all else they will probably be cheap and easy to aquire.
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>>49203780
It really shouldn't.
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>>49203762
But LilianaxChandra is the OTP
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>>49203762
Anon they are both part of the gatewatch, they will be paired A LOT in the coming years
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>>49203780

It really shouldn't, rarity should be an indicato of the complexity of a card nothgi else.
Otherwise we decks need to be made out of 100% rare cards to be playable and the rest of the sets are just a waste of space.
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>>49203795
And that is why unfortunally we never get to see it, anon.
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>>49203802
But without the rest of the gatewatch...? Seems pretty /u/ to me.
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>>49203722
yes but wizards hates infinite combos now so of course they won't make one of those except for the jankiest possible types.
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>>49203824
they are ALL on kaladesh. Expect to have them over the 2 sets
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>>49203599
>Not even instant or sorcery
I'm genuinely mad
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>>49203571
yeah, i feel like usually when they have something like that it says "up to one" so you don't necessarily have to do it but you still get the +1
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>>49203811
God fucking damnit wizard,you can't even do that right!
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>>49203878
...Needs more elf for Jund color lewds.
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>>49203950

New thread, jump when ready.
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>>49203501
It's bad
>+1
Say goodbye to your lands against any competent player. Absolutely awful. Landcreatures doesn't even work in EDH, i've tried with noyan dar.
>-3
It's okay
>-6
Somehow even worse than the +1. Remember that she costs 5 mana. By the time you get to 5 mana you don't want to be drawing lands on top of being statistically less likely to be drawing lands in the first place. The ult is literally "you might benefit slightly, maybe. depends on how long the game goes."
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