Bionicle

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>>49178141
Patrician taste here anon, Bionicle were a big part of my childhood. I remember being completely shocked when I discovered how developed their lore really was. Also I think it would translate pretty well to tabletop, although it would probably be hard to find dedicated players.

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Bionicle had great atmosphere.

Posting Bionicles

>>49178141
It did get hammy towards the end, but man, that was my shit. Also Xevoz. We should totally brew something like that for Bionicles, using some kind of Tactical Mech Wargame rules for it.

>>49178715
this dude was by far the best of the original dudes.

I remember they all came with like comics and the one for him was also pretty rad

>>49178852
>Pohatu has bigger hips than Gali
Gyno as fuck

I was a child when I first picked up a Green Rahkshi from the shelves.

I want to go back.

>>49178242
That kind of artwork was the best non-toy thing to have come out of the failed reboot. So pretty and full of character. Was nice seeing those statues in the cartoon.

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Matorans were the best part of Bionicle.
Macku was my waifu

Someone mind giving me the run down? Bionicle was a thing when I was a kid but I just never got in to it.

>>49179401
>Someone mind giving me the run down?
Polynesian bio-mechanical robots have techno-magical adventures.

Actual spoiler
as the lore progresses everything gets less magical and more biological, as it turns out that their entire "universe" is on/in the corpse of their creator god, which is actually a giant robot

>>49179434
>gets less magical and more biological
and more technological*

>>49179401
Robotic Tiki warriors on a tropical island. They have magic masks and elemental powers and battle an evil shadow god.

>>49179401
Basically Lego Battle-bots, except they were partially organic. Had a decent story, and the free monthly Lego Magazine came with an issue of the comic series, so it was easy to keep up. A lot of focus was put on the Masks, which basically gave their wearers extra power, plus, their weapons were sick most of the time.

>>49179401
Well, there's several way of going about it:

Amnesiac biomechanical color-coded warriors with attitude defending a beautiful island and its likewise biomechanical color-coded people with magic masks and control over the elements, hoping to wake up their god who was cast into sleep by an evil shadow entity.

Afterwards they learn that nothing is what it seems, and that the village elders have been keeping their history a secret. There's no magic, they weren't supposed to be living on a tropical island, the bad guy isn't an all-powerful god, and there's a bajillion other islands and all sorts of other advanced species they had no idea about. Mystical fantasy vibe gets replaced with more generic soft sci-fi and action and the lore is expanded a hundredfold. The genre shift (which was sorta planned) and some hasty rewrites (which were not) lead to inconsistencies out the ass. Especially when they decided to keep the story going and bring in whole new planets and civilizations instead of ending it as it was probably intended.

As a bonus, the entire thing is an allegory for biology represented through the juxtaposition and symbiosis of technology and nature, but it got stretched out to the point where this symbolism became barely relevant.


Basically a grand concept and original universe with tons of story content slowly brought down by being a toy-line that has to cater to the shifting tastes of kids and being really sloppy with its tie-in media.

Then it got a dumbed-down reboot last year that tried to fix its mistakes but instead of doing that, it made new ones, and it apparently performed so bad that Lego had to end it a little over halfway through.

But really? Not a single system for Bionicle?

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Pic related was my fucking dude.

I used to have one of the Bionicle Boardgames and knew the Matoran alphabet.

>>49180163
i still know the matoran alphabet

matoro was my favorite toa, rip in peace

>>49180163
How could one fire spitter be so based?

>>49179603
>Bohrok-Kal
Holy fuck, those guys were hardcore.
Like, seriously, you do not fuck around when a Rahkshi or Bohrok-Kal shows up.

>>49179337

Fuckin loved these guys.

>>49180340
The Rahkshi were the absolute shit.

The Green one was my first Bionicle, and Lego, and that motherfucker was glorious.

I still remember getting a VHS of the movie for Christmas in like 2003/04 or something. It's easily been 10+ years since I last saw it but it was amazing when I was like 10 or 11

I bet it was actually really shit but I didn't know any better back then.

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YO YO

>>49180396
It's not as amazing as we remember, but, surprisingly, it actually isn't all that bad.
It's actually one of the better kids VHS movies out there.

>>49178715
>>49178930
I liked him and Onua, but had a bit of a soft spot for Onua because he was the wisest and most soft-spoken of the original Toa, while Kopaka, while a damn good fighter (he canonically snuffed two of the Rahkshi himself), was also sort of a dick.

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For a few years straight when Bionicle had just come out my grandparents would by the entire set of the main heroes of each of the different generations.
The first gen were obviously the best, but what I enjoyed most was mixing sets together and creating new characters.
Bionicles were great for my bro and I especially since they interested both my little brother's love of action/wrestling figures and my love of Lego blocks.
I wish we still had them all, but during one of the many California wildfires one of my step-dad's coworkers lost their home and their kids lost all their toys. Since my bro and I were then teenagers we gave them most of our old toys including all our Bionicles.
I'd love to be able to build shit like the pic I included but the price to make such a piece is quite expensive.

>>49180340
I cannot fathom what fighting them would be like on tabletop.

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>>49178876
This anon has the right idea. Let's make this shit a thing. We basically steal from Xevoz with the Point Buy/Body part mechanics system, throw in some Tactical wargaming aspects, and have it play out like Voltron: the Tabletop Experience.

>>49180583
Imagine someone who can, at will, control gravity within his zone of awareness. Now make that person an incredibly intelligent and malicious leader of mechanical bugs each with an insane burrowing speed and destructive power, any of whom can possess someone separated from their Kanohi.
Oh, and he's also a mechanical bug that can spindash and is an expert fighter as well.
That's what you're up against.

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Posting the comfiest location and the best Bionicle related song.
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What's your favourite part of Bionicle lore? I always loved how Toa were basically Universe's/Great Spirit's antivirus system.

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Posting Rakshi

>>49180640
Meh, let's make it a trpg. Character Creation comes in three parts: Mask Power, Elemental Power, and Martial combat/weapons. Character goals come in the form of defining Unity, Duty, and Destiny, and from there it's just a matter of figuring out mechanics. How does Cypher System sound to you guys?

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Slizers was here

Bionicle is... good, but not as good

>tfw had a system already built in for rules and game play

>>49180640
>>49180746
Willing to help with it, Do you guys want to ma Toas and similar powerful characters the only playable option, or Matorans as well? I would vote for the latter, the movies and games shown that Matorans van have pretty sweet adventures too, and more down to ground scenarios are fun to have from time to time.

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>>49180799
I had Sub I wanted to get Judge, but they had already replaced them with these guys.

What the fug, this story is complex.

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>>49180868
After awhile they got pretty fucking crazy.

>tfw this bad boy would curb stomp any Bioncle

>>49178141
Bionicle really sets some standards for lore, at least because the story started off with magic robotic tribal warriors fighting off a shadowy evil being and ended with two planet sized dead god-robots having a fist fight.

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>>49180921
That depends, does Matanui's original body as a Bionicle?

>>49181518
>started off with magic robotic tribal warriors fighting off a shadowy evil being and ended with two planet sized dead god-robots having a fist fight.
I mean, that's kinda already the plot to TTGL.

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>>49180475
I forgot that the Matoran had abs in that movie

It wasn't terrible for the time, considering where 3D animation was during its production. I was mostly disappointed that the masks of power didn't really get to show off as much as I would've liked.

>>49180340
42 different types of Rahkshi with a different power. You had shit like Heat Vision Rahkshi or Disintegrator Rahkshi. And their creators the Makuta had all 42 powers in one body.

>>49180435
THE GANG IS ON THE LOOSE

>>49183380
Jesus, fighting a Makuta on tabletop would be hell

but which toa is/are the best genderswapped???

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Takanuva was definately my all-time fave, shame he got relatively little to no action. From what I've heard, he was supposed to play a key role in a great-beings civil war that would have happened if Bionicle didn't get canceled

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>>49183380
>And their creators the Makuta had all 42 powers in one body.
I'm pretty sure Makuta was just one entity. Mata Nui's jealous brother, I think.

>>49180435
>>49183403

The Piraka rap was 10 times better than the linkin park shit the toa got

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1CTPC02n0c

>>49184058

Nah the Mukuta they fought was actually part of a race full of them.

THE Makuta the one in the lore was the most cunning one and killed off his entire race just because if I recall

>>49184058
His full name was Makuta Teridax. He was a part of a race called the Makuta that were basically responsible for making all the animals in the universe

>>49183174

>tfw the moatoran in the movies became toa later

>>49184084
Pretty sure he got like six or seven to join him. But they got killed off eventually

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>>49184084
>>49184106
Jeez. I must be really out of the loop.

I stopped keeping track of Bionicle some time in middle school when Metru Nui was a thing. though I only ever had the paperback books and not the comics.

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Cant we just add bioincles as like mega units for brikwars?

>Toy commericals will never have this DEEPEST LORE ever again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNJfvBL4mw

>>49180812
Definitely Matoran adventures. Toa are nice, but it's a Dark Heresy-Deathwatch relationship. What system base are you recommending?

>>49180812
I'd say that Toa are the main PC option, but we have Matoran as a viable option. So, are we going to use Cypher? Something else? Something we build from the ground up?

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>No one can decide how to run the system

This is easy anon

1) Savage Worlds. Homebrew the elemental powers but don't give players access to the book--if they play as Toa, the powers they unlock are random, representing them learning their abilities. The masks give access to a certain spell, without having to spend Power Points, as long as the mask is worn. Toa without their masks are automatically Shaken. Same goes for Matoran.

2) In order to play the game, players must build their own Toa from leftover Bionicle parts, using the biggest Lego collection the players can find on hand. I shit you not. How fun would this be? How amazingly fucking attached would you be to a character you LITERALLY built with your own two hands, designed a background and a name for, all while waving him around like a badass and playfully whacking the masks off other player's figures?

I tell you /tg/, it's like you don't know how to into Lego. The bricks and parts are the best element (pun intended) for holding player interest. You should exploit that.

Also,

>the entire adventure happens on a new island chain, which they must explore/learn about the inhabitants of
>spoiler, it's Mata Nui's knuckles/hand which is raised above the surface of the water

>>49184159
>>49184211

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>>49178141
Quick google search brought up the pdf from a thread 2 years ago. Here ya go!

>>49183174
The masks of power just weren't a plot point in 2003 like they were in 2001.

>>49184023
There's an official serial about him visiting alternate dimensions. Shattered Glass, I think? Civil War? I forget the name.

>>49184211
Toa seems too snowflakey. If we start with the buildingblocks of the universe and the average joe, I think we'll have a better experience. Numberwise, its best to start at the small things first, anyway. Don't want to have to be dealing with half an armor point.

>>49184226
What if I'm a scrub who doesn't like to mix and max muh canon characters.

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>>49184274
And the bestiary

>>49184274
>>49184292
>It's a d100 system
Thank you, God. And thank you, anon

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>>49184286

>Playing as existing characters instead of building off DEEPEST LORE

It's like you want your players not to feel special. I get it would be fun to play Matoran on Mata Nui but come on, there's only so long you can do that without having to whip out Greg Farshtey's 1000 page timeline of Matoran history so as not to intersect with muh lore

Spinoff/OC robots a best

>>49184327
I'm not saying I want to play as a canon character, I'm saying I don't want to mix and match my canon sets. I like keeping everything nice in its respective container. Anytime I mix and match it ends up getting lost.

>>49184316
>It's not a d10 dicepool system
Thank you, God. And thank you, anon

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>>49184381
>>49184316
I showed this system to my friends and they asked if I could convert it to a D20 system similar to 3.5e

>mfw

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>>49184430

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>>49184361

Use someone else's sets then. If you have a room full of LEGO nerds and no one else has a collection of any kind, y'all done goofed.

also

>not mix and matching sets

I respect what you're trying to do but it defs goes against the creativity principles of LEGO. Having an entire universe of parts to build and saying "no, they can only look like THIS" is kinda futile. THen again, I had a little bro who would pull my Toa apart and graft other shit onto them, so I never got that chance.

Now anons, riddle me this, who would be the villain in your Bionicle tabletop RPG? Makuta got stomped by the Toa, Bohrok-Kal are too OP, and I dunno what the fuck is even going on with the Piraka.

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>>49184286
>The masks of power just weren't a plot point in 2003 like they were in 2001.
I mean that they didn't really get used much at all. Tahu uses his shield mask a grand total of once or twice in the movie and Pohatu was really fast.

It just would've been neat seeing them leverage those abilities instead of firing a friendship beam and winning.

I'm not going to complain too much, it was just a kids movie, it was just something that bothered me a little when I first saw it.

On the flip side, watching Tahu lava surf was awesome.

>>49184430
>D20 system
See, I like d20s. They have just about the right amount of granularity. Even d100 systems usually use 5% increments, which works out the same as a d20 but more fiddly.

>similar to 3.5e
Oh. Yeah, never mind.

>>49184485
Eh, the Cypher System is pretty nice. I won't brag about it, but it at least avoids most of the issues with 3.5, and even a few in 5e. It's a generic system though, so getting it to do what you want takes some extra work.

>>49184454
Well who's to say that Mata Nui was the only God Robot in the universe? There could be hundreds of them and whole new universes inside them

>>49184525
>It's just robots all the way down.

You know what? I spent enough time on sup/tg/ trying to find these, and once I did no one had a media fire link. So, here ya go /tg/ and possibly people looking at the archived thread, pdfs in a zip folder

https://www.mediafire.com/?2u9ubxkaajd42q4

>>49184558
This Obviously refers to

>>49184274
>>49184286

>>49184554
>Robots all the way down.
https://imgur.com/gallery/9KWrH

>>49184568
derp i meant

>>49184361
not

>>49184286

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>>49184558

>Matoran of Light, Plasma, Psionics, Shadow and shit

Holy shit, they really went all the way with this huh? My mind is going, Dave. So many rules.

I'm impressed, but it also seems clunky and hard to get into. I still say Savage Worlds with light mods would be easier. Hell, you could GURPs this at less effort than it would take me to read 10 pages of this monstrosity.

>>49184454
the piraka actually beat the toa nuva

>>49184632
Idk, frankly I like that it is it's own system. Is that not what bionicle deserves?

>>49184525
This was implied by the end-lore.
The truly godlike beings that created Mata Nui and the Makuta, as well as the two world-bodies, had left all these things behind them as failed experiments and gone off to other worlds to try other things.
they're the stand-in for LEGO obviously, but it does imply that there's crazy shit throughout the universe in Bionicle

>>49184681
It's not its own system though. It's the FFG system used in WHFRP, DH, BC, DW, etc.

But it's a great system, so it doesn't matter.

>>49184756
Holy shit... this just makes it ten times better. Playing a Matoran/Toa is definitely like playing Dark Heresy/Deathwatch, like >>49184159 said.

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>>49184864
:^)
I know this

Just without the critical tables...

>>49184864
The All Matoran Party and The Shadow Toa

>>49184889
No critical hit tables?

Can we fix this?

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>>49185295
You know it, baby.

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>>49184274
>>49184292
>Once managed to get enough people for a skype group to work on a bionicle RPG
>even managed to get a few people willing to try a game together once it was done
>we never completed it
>mfw there was a system already made the whole time we could have used

>>49185313
I say we make them as brutal as Dark Heresy, but they're Lego robots, so it's not that big of a deal to get patched up afterwards.

Although I know that's not how it worked in the comics

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Which mask looks the best and why is it Miru?

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>>49185454
You kidding me? It was all about Takanuva. It was Fucking Gold! I was the envy of all my friends because I had this one in Elementary school.

>>49185407
I think we should go for comic accuracy. Brutal dismemberment ruins the vibe when they're matoran.

Besides, losing an arm or leg isn't EZ PZ. They are BIOnicles, after all.

>>49184430
Now that you mention it, It would kinda be fun to run Bionicle using Mutants and Masterminds.

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>>49185499
I still have pic related around here somewhere.

>>49184473
>Pohatu was really fast.
Not really. Fucker got buried under his own element like a total bitch even though he had:
>super speed
>control over rocks
>the ability to vibrate through solid stone
>a Mask of Shielding at his disposal

The movie's not horrible but man did it screw up some aspects of the characters. Although I can look past the Toa not being able to switch masks. Maybe the creators thought kids would get confused if they saw the characters with each other's faces.

>>49185505
Yeah, sorry. Brutal Critical hit charts are my favorite things in an RPG though.

>>49185454
>>49185499

Those aren't Lhikan's variant Hau, Kakama, Mahiki, or noble Komau, anons.

>not knowing the Mask of Light is Kanohi Avohkii

>>49185557
I still have Lhikan's Hau from the book set.

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>everybody wants to run a bionicle RPG as Toa
>nobody remembers the Dark Hunters
biomechanical bountyhunters > toa capeshit

>>49185608
Yeah but all the dark hunters are special snowflakes and need special rules for each

Does Crika even have a race?

>>49185662
Depends. Who's Crika again?

I return from my journeys through the internet, and I bring you a nearly complete collection of the comics in PDF format: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/comics/

>>49185725
You, anon, are the hero Mata Nui needs.

Anybody got the name of the thing from the Metru Nui Arc that was basically the Tarrasque? I think it was the one that someone won a contest with, so it became canon.

>>49185762
Tahtorak?

>>49185662
You mean Krika the tragic Makuta? Or Krekka the stupid one-eyed Dark Hunter? Cause he belonged to a race of stupid brutes who worked as labor force on Sidorak's home island.

>>49185780
That's the one! I remember it basically rampaging a giant Visorak horde, attacking the giant scorpion Visorak thing that was summoned out of its pocket dimension, and asking for "The Answer."

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>>49185719
I assume he means Krekka

>>49185725
Great, now if some generous anon would just download them all, put them into a single folder organized by arc, then post it all as one big link, they'd have my gratitude.

>>49185719
>>49185944
Oh, OK.
Not really, there's nothing interesting about him.
"Krekka was living a simple, violent life as a guard on his home island, until he interfered with a representative of the Brotherhood of Makuta. He lost his job, along with one of his eyes, and was forced to flee his home. He eventually broke enough opponents in two to attract the attention of one of [the] Dark Hunters and was recruited to join the organization."

Nidhiki, on the other hand, has much more interesting lore. He was originally a toa of air, allied with that fire toa Lhikan (who went missing in the metru nui movie) and the water toa Tuyet. Tuyet tried to off Lhikan and Nidhiki to take over Metru Nui and create a toa-led empire with her as empress. In the main universe*, Lhikan and Nidhiki kick her shit in and save the day.
Shortly after, Nidhiki also gets ideas of betrayal into his head and tries to get chummy with the Dark Hunters. His betrayal is a failure, but he does eventually get a job with them. Unfortunately for him, this only happens after he has a chance encounter with Roodaka, who mutates him heavily.

*in one of the alternate universes that Takanuva goes too, he sees a world where Tuyet succeeded with help from Nidhiki, and it ends up being pretty grimdark and interesting.

>>49185927
That's one of the books I haven't read. A large part of the overly messy and cluttered 2005 arc is still a semi-blank spot to me because I know the basics just not the details.

I know the books are up for download, but I never got around to reading them.

>>49186227
Well, another anon just posted a link to all of the comics, so get to it!

>>49185336
There is always time to adapt, always something to alter.

There is no rule saying that there must only be one system.

>>49186428
True. Just take a look at the options to run JoJo. There's even some guy in the current /sss/ thread working on a 1d6 Jojo system.

>>49184150
>They're touching the mask of life

YOU FOOLS

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>all these images bringing back long-buried nostalgia
I used to have a whole dresser stacked with all the Bionicle sets I accumulated over the years when I was a kid. Broke em down and sold em for like 200 bucks in spare parts. I sometimes wish I was a kid again.

>>49178958
More like always skip arm day.

>Still got boxes of lego aroud due to siblings/nepew
>all my old creations disassembled
>most parts are the crappy new chestpieces or arms
>even the shitty pics I made were gone

And probably worst of all, Lego's designer tool is completely useless. It would be amazing to build figures for all the monsters and NPCs in a campaign.

>>49186900
It's just too easy to import all the old technic parts...

T-too easy...

>>49185899
>Krika

Damn this nostalgia, Krika was my favorite character from the Karda Nui arc.

So of course he had one of the more horrifying deaths in the series. He did not deserve to go like that.

>>49187137
Didn't he get his atoms blasted across the galaxy or something like that?

>>49187193
That was Icarax, I believe, got hit mid teleport while his powers were going haywire.

Gorast caused Krika's intangibility powers to go out of control and he slowly became more and more intangible until he faded from existence.

>>49185364
>In the Bionicle game they actually use Matoran numbers to count out your time left in time-sensitive missions
It's the little things.

>>49187308
Damn, what a way to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0AZJ21J9GE

Music time, fuck you fuckers.

>>49179307
Fine taste my friend.
I got her and Huki sat on my desk.

I ran a series of Bionicle Quest threads two years ago, and I've been considering rebooting them now that I have time.

A few questions:

Would you rather play a Matoran or Toa?

Favorite setting? answers other than Mata Nui are objectively wrong, but you will get points for Bota Magna robodinosaurs

Which element is your favorite? Which Kanohi is the most interesting to use?

/qst/ or /tg/?

canon bionicle needed more balanced gender ratios. which toa is best waifu?

>>49187781
I would play as a toa but playing as a matoran who is going to become a toa isn't bad either. Playing as a Skakdi could be fun but you would need another Skakdi player so it could work properly

>>49187781
Hahli is quality waifu to Jala

>>49187781
>Would you rather play a Matoran or Toa?
Matoran

>Favorite setting?
Mata Nui

>Which element is your favorite? Which Kanohi is the most interesting to use?
Ice and Vahi

>/qst/ or /tg/?
/tg/

>>49187781
I want to play as a Matoran working for the Dark Brotherhood as a Toa Hunter. Later he manages to steal a Toa/Toa-to-be's power and become some kind of Dark Toa. Shit would be epic.

>>49186428
I know, but I was really looking forward to that game, man. I was going to be a coal miner turned Earth Toa.

>>49187985
From there the story is rife with Intrigue and backstabbing as he attempts to climb the Hierarchy of the Dark Brotherhood.

>>49187886
noted.

>>49187887
I phrased the question badly.

>>49187934
noted.

>>49187985
edgy.

phrased that last one pretty badly. what I'm saying is that I dislike Bionicle's stubborn insistence on a rigid 5/1 gender ratio. which element(s) should be redesignated as female? don't look at me like that I know you guys want waifus

>>49188129
Honestly, swap it around. Give us our fiery Redhead flame toa one time around, our Sturdy female Muscle Earth Toa another time, our edgy ice princess another, our ADHD Elfin Air Toa... you get the idea.

>>49187781
>Would you rather play a Matoran or Toa?

Matoran later becoming a Toa

>Favorite setting?

I don't dislike any of them really, but there was a great sense of mystery exploring Mata Nui in the beginning

>Which element is your favorite? Which Kanohi is the most interesting to use?

Ice all the way. Mask of Life due to the shear amount of shenanigans it's capable of

>/qst/ or /tg/?

/tg/, quests have more activity that way

>>49187781
>>49188129

>Would you rather play a Matoran or Toa?
Matoran

>Favorite Setting?
Mata Nui

>Which element(s) should be redesignated as female?
All of them. Just have male or female of every element

>>49188129
>>49188239
Or you know... just not the elements restrict Gender? I mean sure you can have one Gender appear more prominently than another but I don't see the harm in each element have both genders

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>>49188129
Water's good as a female as it is, Fire would also be good, as well as Air. You could argue that any of the other elements could be female though.

And honestly, no, I don't want waifus. A Toa girl can have a nice personality, but they're still essentially robots with little to no womanly curves. I hate it when games and stories try to force me to like female characters, and you could make an easy argument that gender doesn't even matter for bionicles.

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>>49188295
>>49188278
>>49188239
>>49188129
STOP GENDER MIXING MY ELEMENTS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49188239
>>49188278
I already know which Turaga (and thus Metru) are r63d - it's toa I'm asking for because I am an indecisive fuck.

>>49188295
noted

>>49188319
agreed. macku/huki aside, bonkles are not for romance. bonkles are for reawakening the Great Spirit and driving the shadow of the Makuta from the island.

>>49188321
haha no
we already have orde in canon

Got the Red one from Gen1 as a birtday gift as a kid. All I knew about the lore was from the first movie and the game (?) on the mini-rom that came with the figure. Is there somewhere I can get the comics for free , and read from the beginning? At least up until the lore apparently got fucked

>>49178810
I have this one!

>>49188398
>haha no
>we already have orde in canon
What about him?

>>49188452
see
>>49185725

>>49188452
>>49185725

>>49188398
I mean sure there is some actually kinda nice bionicle porn out there, but you can see just from the sheer lack of it how little there is to work with.

And even then ignoring the sexuals, romance was also never really a thing. No Matoran lovers, no marriages, no playful banter between two Toa turning into a relationship. It's just something not in the setting, and I'm actually a little glad of that.

>>49188452
Give me a bit, my friend - there's a site out there with all the comics on them, I just have to find it again. I wouldn't let a fellow Tahu fan down.

>>49188541
We've already linked it, famalam.

>>49188495
>>49188498
>>49185725

>>49188472
just to say that the great being's choices of gender for elements were arbitrary anyway - to the point where they built prototypes that worked otherwise.

actual reason: my sister and I used to make houses out of system lego and shoeboxes and capes out of cloth for our bonkles and she wanted a female Ta-Matoran so we built one together, and I stopped caring about element/gender distinctions.

>>49188452
Here's also the books if you want to go deep (and because the comics leave a fuckton if important things out).

http://cross-wired-freak.tumblr.com/post/68472919868/bionicle-chronicles-bionicle-adventures-bionicle

Of course even the books get sketchy at times. The first novel in particular is a mess that's irreconcilable with other story material and the ending got retconned later on.

>>49186759
>tfw my father told me to never sell the all toys and cards, to have something to look back on my childhood
Still have them, so based.

>>49188695
>http://cross-wired-freak.tumblr.com/post/68472919868/bionicle-chronicles-bionicle-adventures-bionicle
I'll never forget the part they added into the "Web of Shadows" book adaptation of the movie.

In the movie, when talking about becoming a Hordika, Nokama says that she's been feeling "Animalistic urges" recently. Understandable, since they became literal beastmen.

In the book, and not in the movie, Matau follows up.

"Hey, do any of those urges happen to involve me?"

The a b s o l u t e m a d m a n

>>49188695
What was wrong with it? I read the books religiously as a kid, and I don't remember anything different between them and the comics.

>>49188794
Oh Matau, so full of yourself. I did love how the Toa Metru were very distinct from the Toa Mata, and even their later Toraga selves. With Toa after that, I can't remember a distinct personality.

>>49188794
Matau was the greatest member of the toa metru, he was the only one that really talked smack.

>>49188729
Your Father was a good man, Friend.

>>49178931
>Sooo... you swing around here often?

>>49188495
>>49188498
>>49188541
>>49188695
Apparently I missed it while reading the thread. Thank you!

>>49188895
>What was wrong with it?
The 2001 plot wasn't set in stone until years later, so understandably the writer (who was a hired outsider, not someone with deep knowledge about the lore) tried to fill in the spots with her own ideas. For instance MNOG was considered non-canon for a long time, so the first book completely ignored the Toa's fight with Makuta and anything relating to Takua. The Toa Kaita formation is also different compared to both MNOG and the canceled PC game and the Makoki stones never come up.

Furthermore, Greg later decided to go and de-canonize the way the Shadow Toa were defeated. In the book, the Toa destroy them through teamwork, but in Greg's more official version, they "accept that darkness is part of their being" and merge with their shadow counterparts.

There are also legit goofs in the book, like how some of the Toa are described having their Nuva weapons in a few scenes.

The rest of the early books were mostly true to the comics.

>>49188794
The WOS book and movie are so different. I like the movie well enough, but the book adds so much more detail. Like how Vakama wasn't really evil, he just wanted to free the Matoran by himself and it wasn't until he touched Makuta's throne that his mind got completely corrupted. Whereas in the movie, all it takes for him to go over to the dark side is Roodaka commanding a bunch of Visorak to kill themselves (in the book they don't actually die).

Matau also brings up Lhikan when he tries to reach Vakama, which adds a lot more drama into the scene than simply reciting the three virtues like in the movie.

For the record, from what little I read from the The Legend Reborn book, that one's also a gigantic improvement over the film. Not that remarkable of a feat, I know.

>>49188895
>With Toa after that, I can't remember a distinct personality.
Jaller's personality as a Toa was literally that he wanted to avoid being like Tahu and Vakama. Being less of a hothead and listening more to his teammates with whom he was friends. Though he didn't take too kindly to Matoro upstaging him when they went underwater.

>>49178715
This was the dude that made me obsessed with ice/snow related powers.

Ice is the most superior element.

>>49189684
>ice
>not just shitty water

>stone
>not just shitty earth

>>49189698
You have it the other way around, anon.

>>49189698
you shut the fuck up. earth and stone have important differences in philosophy, and power implementation

>>49179225
Mine was white. Fucking loved that Guy

>>49179337
These guys were the shit.

>>49184023
His surfboard or whatever was awesome

>>49188729
My mother made me sell my entire Beanie Babies collection because I "never played with them". I still fucking hate her for that and have all my other kid stuff in boxes somewhere.

>>49188729
>tfw you used to collect all the mars mission stuff as a kid
>still have it all stashed away
>tfw your grandmother got you ever Hess truck from the day you were born
>still have all those too

>>49189995
>mars mission
you're a man of fine taste, good sir

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Reminder that Hero Factory was also meant to have deepest lore and an expansive universe until it got neutered upon release.

>>49180340
>Rahkshi or Bohrok-Kal
Man I loved those. Rahkshi staff weapons were cool and the Bohrok-Kal were awesome with turning into formfitting balls

>>49180558
huh I didn't know that Bionicles had a Haruspex
keke

just tell me which toa mata would make cute girls already

>>49180868
>Roboriders
oh man that brings back memories. I had the red one though I didn't play with it much.

>>49185608
Man I loved this guy. though his character was weak sauce in the movie, I always wanted one of these and made a bunch of drawings of creatures of the same design.

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>>49187781
>Bota Magna
Never of heard of that before, but if it had RoboDinos I no doubt would have Loved it.

my knowledge of Bionicles comes from the toys, the films, and the Book of Rahi Beast (a personal favorite)

>>49191825
Bota Magna was the third of the fragments of Spherus Magna sundered by the Shattering. pretty much all we know about it is that the Great Beings left robot dinosaurs in the jungle there, and everybody agrees that robot dinosaurs are fucking amazing.

>>49191872
Yeah, and the sad thing is the line got canned before we got to explore that planet.

We could have gotten biomech dinosaurs and a movie about them. Yeah, it would have been made by the same people as TLR, but who knows, maybe they would have gotten better at making movies by that point.

Technically stuff like the Rock Steeds can maybe be seen as dinosaurs, and there were the Bahrag in 2002 who were kinda dinosaurian. So at least we had them. But I wonder what they would have done for the scrapped 2011 line.

>>49178931
Lewa best tribal character.

>>49191578
Lewa, Kopaka, and Tahu are all decent candidates, I think. Particularly Lewa.

Gali is still cutest girl, though.
I'm probably just saying that because water is my favorite element, but whatever.

>>49192319
Gali a cute guy

>>49192418
G2 isnt canon

I think Michael Bay should make a Bionicle movie.

>>49184061
>Knocking All-American Rejects
BITCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZbCsJttSyE

>>49192319
>Not wanting a gentle femOnua

>>49193179
honestly onua as a character is underrated. people forget how chill he is.
>sitting in kini-nui
>ugh those guys are fighting again
>gali's still wasting her time trying to get them to shut up
>well if they don't want to cooperate then they can do whatever
>it doesn't bother me.
>gonna dig out a new mine for Onu-Koro and help my people instead of wasting my time bickering

what a cool dude.

>>49193179
>gentle

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I'm 80% certain somebody on the internet has made Bionicle Rule 63 already. We just need to find it.

>no one has posted best bionicle music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4P3evYGQ_Q
DO YOU KNOOOOOOW
WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A HEROOOOO

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>>49193493
Do YOU know, anon?

>>49193493
mein neger

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>>49193415
I retract that statement. I found gay porn of Takua and Jaller instead.

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>>49193415
>>49193716
Wait! Found something!

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>>49193783
And here's Tahu as a chick.

>>49193830
THAT'S LEWD ANON

>>49193783
those lower arms are going the wrong way
(wow i have autism)

>>49193830
good post

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>>49193830
MODS!!!!!!
This is a fucking blue board, dammit!

>>49193932
No they aren't. Check that original artwork back near the top of the thread.

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>>49194176
here you go. Jaller Mahri. take a look at the forearms and their orientations.

check the post I quoted.

Join the /biog/ discord, faggots.

https://discordapp.com/invite/wWehshZ

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>>49194257
Well fuck.

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>>49194939

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>>49194257
>>49194939
Still hot though.

I bought the Mata's and the Metru Toa's 2 years ago, still got them all complete

Anyone else think the Kanohi Nuva were unnecessarily ugly?

Anyone used to be on BZPower? I remember it was fine enough was back in the day, but it gradually turned more and more into a draconian circlejerk shithole as time went on.

>>49195429
I liked the Miru Nuva, but on the whole yeah the organic look didn't really work out so well.

>>49195646
years and years ago.

>>49195646
BZP was the first forum I spent any time on way back when, but I got way too tired of the Orwellian sensibilities of the admins. Did meet some good friends there, though.

>>49195646
>>49195765
Same, and the place is in shambles by now, the userbase is drying up.

>>49198092
The Vahki were the shit man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8lGEfkhvYg

>>49199324
Those are fucking amazing for 2004 flash animations

>>49199324
Fuck, I haven't remembered Metru Nui was THAT Orwellian.

>>49200148
That's because Templar Studios knew what they were doing. Too bad they stopped working with Lego afterwards. They were one of the main reasons why the line got popular in the first place.

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Oh hey. A Bionicle thread

Might as well post my collection.

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>>49200258

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>>49200272

>>49200258
>>49200272
>>49200285
That's amazing man! I really regret selling mine, had quite a lot of them as a kid. I considered starting collecting them again, even bought few Toa Mata online for start, but since I'm a student without a steady income I can't really continue with it for now. And most of them have to be bought for either UK or USA and shipping prices are outrageous.

>>49200512
*from not for

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Something that's bothered me - if Metru Nui is below Mata Nui, is that in Mata Nui's head? How are you supposed to get there? Why is there earth and dirt below Mata Nui?

>>49200541
What a coincidence, this i something I was thinking about a few minutes ago actually. Metru-Niu is supposed to be Mata Nui's brain, so it make sense to be under Mata Nui Island. But I also never really got how is it possible if you have all the dirt, rocks etc beneath it, not even talking about the mines.

>>49200541
>>49200572
All the islands inside Mata Nui's bodiy are in huge domes.

What did you guys think of the Barraki?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaLX6pRtM8I

>>49184150
Gee Kongu, how come the Great Spirit let you have two cordak blasters?

>>49196001

Considering the main topic of discussion has been dead or irrelevant for years now, I'm not surprised.

But BZP was going to shit long before that. Most of the administration, at least when I was there, was in their late teens and seemed to get a particular thrill out of being in control of a userbase primarily consisting of children/pre-teens and their parents.

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>>49200541
An what about Voya Nui? What is the cord that connects it to the bottom of the ocean(Mata Nui's body) in regard to Great Spirit's anatomy?

>>49202116
Looks kinda like it's attached to the bellybutton area.

>>49185725
This site also has all the old flash games and shit.

>>49203076
so it's the umbilical cord?
Gross.

>>49200541
whats with the bit in the middle

>>49186586
Oh yeah, I remember that scene, rip in peace Mataro

>>49200541
the Mata Nui island is an automatic camo system for the face of the Mata Nui robot, and the Bohrok were designed to clean it away. Metru Nui is in the head of the robot, like a brain; Voya Nui was on/in the robot's torso before the Cataclysm broke it off- it rocketed up to the surface and lava from the volcano there progressed downward and formed a chain.

>>49203723
Voya Nui

>>49202116
Voya Nui was originally a "plug" of sorts on the top of the Mata Nui robot's heart chamber (at elast according to some concept art). When he hit the planet, it broke off and tore its way out of his chest, and as it drifted to the south, that island formed around it.

But then part of the island broke off and landed on the Pit, and cooling magma formed a cord between the floating Voya Nui and its broken-off bit (Mahri Nui). This cord solidified and anchored Voya Nui in place (Mahri Nui's working name was even Ankor Nui at some point).

Doesn't make sense at all but it's an interesting concept that should have been thought through better.

>>49205356
Thanks for both replaying and bumping the thread, I don't want it to die yet.

By the way does anyone knows a good place to buy Bionicles (in terms of price and availability) other than Ebay?

>>49201368
I joined that site around 2005, and it still felt like a highly active community at that point. Sadly it was the first forum I had experience with, and all its autism, strict rules and the like tainted my perception when I registered to other places.

It had a rough time in past years, saw waves of drama, but by this point it's practically on life support, it's not even worth to harp on it.

>>49205471
Well, Bricklink would be the obvious answer in terms of availability, but people there know how much a set is worth and can demand good money for them, so it really depends on what you want to buy. Used sets that aren't so rare have affordable prices, rares ones, especially unused are pricey.

I had more luck with eBay back when I still tried to complete my collection. It often took years of patience, but I managed to snatch some older sets I always wanted for a decent price.

>>49205595
Well, thanks a lot for telling me about Brickling, never heard of this side and it has some sets I've been missing in much lower prices than anywhere I've seen.

>>49178958
That's 'cos the weird motherfucker's body is upside down.

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You're at the club with your matoran when this guy comes and slaps their ass.
What do you do?

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>>49205999
Move her.

Poor guy's just trying to clean up the place and she's in his way.

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Would you a bionicle girl?

>>49180632
dude needs to clear that fuckin acne

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>>49206186

I remember there used to be a mod on BZP who would lose their shit without fail every time someone posted a build of a female character with a discernible bust, especially if they used those armor shoulderpads or Rahkshi heads.

This was in spite of the fact that Roodaka exists.

>>49206895
BZP used to flip out about such things even not too long ago.

But I remember reading that others were also outraged over Roodaka, which is why the designers stopped making "obviously" female sets later on.

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>>49189684
>>49189698
>wind
>not the best element

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>>49180683
I like how the star that revived everything that died became broken and instead made monsters out of dead matorans

>>49180721
Rakshi from Mask of Light gave me nightmares for years

>>49184114
I wanted more bromance between Jaller and Takanuva.

They were best friends as matorans after all

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>>49207105

The Metru were the best Toa bodies. Yeah, they were a little samey once you took away the weapons, but it helped to unify them as a group and the whole thing was far more solid and versatile than the older Toa.

Those two special edition Toa Hagah with the spinner shields were perfection. Iruini is one of my all-time favorite sets.

>>49205999
Dig a hole in front of him and watch the dumb fuck fall in. It worked for Onua.

>>49207347
Rhotuka are god tier as well. They're still the best projectiles.

>>49207347
I never liked how the Metru body was built, the torso was too small and thin, the stomach-area in particular is an eyesore, the arms too far out to the side (at an odd angle at that) and articulation was limited due to the gimmick. Didn't like how the chest armor had more holes in it than the Great Beings' logic, either. No wonder the movie designs changed them so much.

The Hagah fixed some of those issues with their extra body armor, their longer arms and by halving the arm-spinning gimmick. They look great, I sorta wish they redid the same design without the action feature and fixed proportions.

>>49207347
>tfw we never got a full team of them
Shame,the spear/shield combo was the best one 'till Kongu double minigun

>>49207347
Iruini was my first Bionicle. He also had the best mask power. Imagine being able to teleport to anywhere you could see.

>>49178141
Was recently digging through my old room and came across my old collection of Bionicle comics, was kind of just paralyzed sitting on the floor with sheer nostalgia as I went through them all. They were torn up pretty bad, 'cuz you know, kids don't go easy on comics, but fuck, I'd almost say it was magical.

>>49200541
Metru Nui is basically built on top of Mata Nui's brain. You have to travel through a tunnel system accessed from Mangaia to get from the island of Mata Nui to the dome it's located in. It's shown in the old MNOLG that if you dig down deep enough on Mata Nui you'll eventually hit an impenetrable layer of material that exhibits some organic qualities. That's his face.

>>49207595

Iruini and Norik's Toa sets were originally supposed to be Nidhiki and Dume, which explains the similarities in masks. I think making them Toa forms of two of the Rahaga was a fairly last minute change.

>>49208568
Not only that, but their torso armor is also the same and Iruini's spearhead looks like Nidhiki's pincer.

That's a lot of obvious similarities to simply throw out like that, but I guess the Rahaga were in bigger need of a backstory because they were the current sets in 2005.

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>>49206186
I dunno, probably. I kind of laugh at the porn, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't want a romantic subplot for once in my bionicles.

It's ironic, though - I get so tired of romance subplots in other media that feel like they're detracting from the story. But for some reason I wouldn't mind them in the one setting that I know of that doesn't include any room for them.

>>49207347
The big plus to the Metru were the fact they actually had limbs that could bend. Otherwise, my favorite would still have to be the Nuva.

>>49207803
I thought there was a sea described as being between the two landmasses?

>>49187781
>which toa is best waifu?
Pohatu is best boy, and would obviously be best girl.
Pohatu/Kopaka yuri, also.

Everyone stop what you're doing.
You're now aware that some guy with way, way too much time reverse-engineered a full language out of the few Matoran words we got from canon, and it's GREAT.
http://outofgloom.tumblr.com/matoran-language
Anyway, continue.

>>49180868
one of my earliest memories is my mum buying me onyx, frost and power

i lost her last year

>>49180868

I had almost the whole set of these. The only one I was missing was Power. The whole collectable wheel thing was a little weird, but they were neat little sets.

>>49209351
Sorry for your loss, anon.

>>49188729
My dad collected all sets except for the ones for Bara Magna for myself and my little brother, along side Yu-Gi-Oh cards and the odd Sonic toy/comic. He still has everything, but the Sonic stuff. He's the best father in the world

>>49192723
That gave me goosebumps.

>I'm a grown man and a toy ad from 06 gave me goosebumps

GG lego

>>49207049
I always thought they were just pecs and Roodaka was just a buff dude

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>>49178141
>All your middle school years were spent writing about your own OC Toa.
>You can still remember so much of the lore.
>You remember the name change from tohunga to matoran.
>Spent all your time in BZPower threads.

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>>49211099
I used to have more of these little gifs, but I don't know where they went.

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Just came to show you guyst that I still have my Lewa, sealed and mint. Still has the disc too.

>>49211349
The day they switched from canisters to boxes is when they fucked up, the canisters were always rad as fuck.

>>49210913
You're not alone.

>>49211349
Mint Toa is rare, but a big part of me really want you to open it and assemble him so he could fulfill his destiny after all these years.

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>>49211931

The canisters made them so easy to pack away and store. Plus on a lot of them, you could use the lids to store or display stuff like the Masks.

My favorite ones were easily the Bohrok's. Peel the back off and use that clip on the inside to suspend them in a pod.

>>49212863
Unless one wanted to just display the sets and keep the package in storage. From that perspective, canisters were fucking awful, whereas G2's paper boxes don't take up as much space.

>>49212712
>have been bought years ago
>whatever child ever bought me never opened me, so I waited
>and waited
>finally, I am opened - assembled, even
>a rush of elation fills me - what battles am I to partake in? Will I see the friends I was promised, foes I had been warned of?
>I am put on a shelf. I am alone. I am too late.
>I'm waiting again.

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>>49214209
D-don't do this to me anon...

>>49212712
Trust me, I wanna, but my now Wife got it for me one Christmas, and she paid a pretty penny to find him in this condition.

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>>49214209
You bastard. Now I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

>>49214830
that's really sweet of her to do, anon. at least he isn't suffering in there. maybe you can give him to your child, if/when you have one.

>>49184454
>who would be the villain in your Bionicle tabletop RPG?
another Makuta. Recall that the various makuta had been assigned to specific islands by Miserax. If those assignments remained by the time the brotherhood became openly evil, the campaign could take place on another island terrorized by a makuta.

Holy shit, a bonkle thread
I remember helping with the Skype system a while ago. Someone should do something with it

>tfw massive lorefag (only got one set but have all the comics in some form)
>tfw I really like the Spherus Magna setting because there's so much that hasn't been explored and explained and there's so much potential for storytelling, just like Mata Nui was way back when
>tfw everybody else thinks it's shit

I'm just mad we never got the ultimate showdown between the Element Lords and Toa Nuva

>>49215170
I don't hate spherus magna but I dislike the glatorian and agori. perhaps the prototype robot's matoran inhabitants might inhabit the wastes instead? robo-augmented everything is pretty great though

Reminder that the big secret was planned from the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkcjbInbRU
>>49209295
I remember this.

>>49215218
I can see where you'd be coming from. But, I don't know, there's just the chance to really go into interesting territory. I guess it scratches the itch I felt playing MNOLG harder.
I actually like the Glatorian/Agori, if only because there are a lot of different avenues of thought you can take and there's a lot of canonical wiggle room .

For instance:
>It's canon that Glatorian and Agori have metallic bones
>Mining and metalworking industries collapse during the Core War when Iron Tribe all die off or go insane
>Fast-forward to Bara Magna, where everyone still is able to make metal weapons somehow
>There's also a group of bandits named the Bone Hunters
>Connect the dots
To this day I'm still unsure if Greg Farshtey knew where this was going when he came up with the metal bones thing, which was after the Bone Hunters were established in the comics.
That's another thing, the relative lack of interest in Spherus Magna/Glatorian/Agori stuff means there's less stupid shit to worry about (both from fans and 'official' sources)

>>49215423
I think one reason why the Bara Magna (and more recently Okoto, and thinking back basically anything post-2005) stuff didn't grab me was the lack of atmosphere and exploration. I didn't get into Bionicle because of the plot or lore, but mostly because of the tone and setting.

Mata Nui struck me as a vivid, living setting with many mysteries to explore even when I had no access to stuff like the website, comics and MNOG. But the early promo images, videos and mini CDs not only told me enough about the place and the main characters to care about and want to see more of them, but they also gave me a sense of the place's atmosphere.

Even Metru Nui felt like a well thought out little world through those Toa Metru promos and the CD games, and it had its own mood. Whereas with for example Bara Magna, sure I also know the backstory details, the tribes, the characters, I got the guidebook packed with story and lore details. But it all felt like fluff to me due to the lack of genuine exploration and a sense of atmosphere. Conceptually interesting ideas and backstories just thrown out there, but I couldn't get invested in the setting enough to care. Same with stuff like Voya, Mahri or Karda Nui, and Okoto especially.

Granted, I was also a far less jaded kid in the line's early years, so it's no wonder I ate up Mata and Metru Nui more easily.

>>49216022
That's fair.
I myself didn't actually really get into it until 2004, but I've played all the older stuff. Which, granted, most likely isn't why I have the same opinion you do.

Don't get me wrong, I like the original settings much as anyone else, I guess I just feel like there's less to discover --especially now that their biggest secrets have been laid bare.

And to be really honest, I find the backstories of the Matoran Universe and Spherus Magna to have the most potential out of any time period. Of course, the MU has 100,000 years of backstory and Spherus/Bara Magna has even longer than that to wonder about.

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Should I post some of my mocs from over the years?

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>>49215170
I feel bad for abandoning the skype group. It started going slow, then I had computer troubles, then when I got back things were near glacial...

I don't think Spherus Magna was bad, but it just wasn't what I wanted. Having bio-mechanical elemental warriors was cool enough.

>>49216358
Do it, I suck with those things.

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>>49216413
Alright then.

BIONICLE Quest is starting up.
>>49216454

>>49216506
I am monitoring.

Please start up soon, I've got to get to bed for work.

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>>49216506
How does a quest even work? I've never done one. Don't come to /tg/ much

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>>49216556
think of it like an old-school forum play-by-post game - except you all play and I do all the posting.

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>>49216598
Some of my older camera work was not great.

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