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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
http://www.magiccards.info
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Rock out with your cock out
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>>49177361
>>49177361
That is phenomenally evil. Thank you.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/down-down-to-goblin-town-4/

Just putting the finishing touches on the deck. Thoughts/opinions? I'm probably going to cut parallel evolution for Triumph.
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Obligatory "Post 'em" post
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>>49177412
Do you play Sadistic Hypnotist in Nath?
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>>49177412
>not playing red in at least 60% of your decks
D I S G U S T I N G
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>>49177448
Is the Pope Catholic?
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anowon is the only one that's half decent that i actually have, progenitus is just a mish-mash of cards that does kinda ok, and memnarch ive only been looking at stuff for. i'd post the decklists, but i dont have them with me atm so i can't put them up
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>>49177412
I'm planning to change Lili into a Gonti deck.

My mono black deck is for casual value-based shenanigans, and Lili is simply too good for that playstyle. She offers too many options, and I hate taking long turns when my intent is to unwind.
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>>49177458
>Living in the same house Gwafa has been in
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>>49177479
>anowon
HOW MANY LANDS, ANON
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>>49177511
at LEAST 2, that i know for sure
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>>49177501
That wasn't me, sorry

Last time I played Gwafa, one guy got turbo-salty and removed him every time I didn't have a counterspell in hand. The guy has a pathological hatred of Pacifism effects
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>>49177479
I think I might play Magic with your dad on Wednesdays
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>>49177524
>at LEAST 2
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>>49177542
nah i don't think so, i doubt he even knows what mtg is
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>>49177554
that deck's at my dorm, famon, i'm home for the weekend
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>>49177458
But anon, I have a deck of every colour. Red isn't in 60% of all colour combos!
It is my favourite though.
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>>49177583
Damn. Well, I know a dude who's son has the exact same decks. Weird.
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>>49177603
Anon is it over 32 lands
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>>49177631
i can give you a solid probably
>>49177621
weird
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>>49177412
I need the rest of this set to drop so I can build Jeskai Racecars
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So how would you go about making an EDH deck that is a castle?

My first EDH deck is a Gisa and Geralf, self mill zombie horde deck. Lots of graveyard shenanigans and then token creation via army of the damned and what have you. And then sac mechanics. The idea is to build a deck to play against it that is a castle that the zombies are trying to overrun. Eventually I want to build an EDH battlebox that creates a world that builds out from this. Cause flavor.

Anyways, the plan so far is Doran, the Siege Tower for my commander, then a few Treefolk and lots and lots of walls. Then running prison effects, token hate, and other enchantments like Powder Keg, Lightmine Field, Opalescence, Academy Rector, Replenish, Assault Formation, etc. It's still very much in the planning stage. Any thoughts?

Also what card could I run that would be the princess inside of my castle. So when I play it, I can say 'fortunately, our princess is in this castle!', or something like that.
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>>49177758
Hundred-Handed One would probably be pretty hilarious in Doran

Especially since you have access to Sun Titan and can reanimate the fucker
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>>49177758
What's a castle without a Moat?

SIX HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS CHEAPER THAT'S WHAT GODDAMMIT
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>>49177479
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/steelnsteal/
this is almost exactly what i'm aiming for with memnarch
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>>49177412
We're Still doing this?
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>>49177412
I just want those 4 colour decks to come out so I can finish this collection and free myself from this evil.
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>>49178282
Why do you have 2 rakdos and golgari commanders?
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>>49177412
Should I try to branch out?
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>>49178282
>He doesn't know about Purple
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I am making a Mina and Denn, Wildborn deck, but I'm kinda at a loss. At it's base, it's a landfall deck, mostly focused on getting out stuff like Oracle of Mul-Daya and Asuza, Lost but Seeking along with Omnath, Locus of Rage out, then just making a shit ton of Elemental Creatures with Omnath to either attack with, or even just use something like Thermopod or another Sac outlet to deal direct damage with Omnath's other ability.
I've got some other stuff, like Avenger of Zendikar, and some overrun abilities, but I'm kinda stuck on other possible ways to win, say if Omnath was exiled so I couldn't recur it, so I was wondering if anybody had some advice regarding some other options.
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Heavily considering running New Marchesa because being the burger king sounds pretty silly and card draw is nice too. Anyone around here have experience with that lady?
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>>49178324
I made Thelon as a mono-green deck and elfball as my simic but it didn't work out so I just spiced up Thelon a bit and made Ezuri elfball and new Ezuri "Edric's Flying Men 2.0 feat. Sage of Hours".
Rakdos Lord of Riots had some stax stuff in it that didn't fit so when I retooled it I had a bunch of left over cards (hellbent, chaos, discard, etc.) and just threw Malfegor at the helm.
Those two decks are shit and worth less than $15 each but I figured I'd include them.

>>49178354
I know about Purple but there are no purple commanders yet. When there are, I'll hate myself and my wallet more.
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>>49178346
Your assignment is to build the 4-color deck that doesn't have Blue.
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>>49178346
What >>49178410 said.
Alternatively, run a very anti-blue deck with things like boil and pyroblast.

Alternatively, run make a voltron commander in anything without blue.
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>>49178399
>Being this new
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>mfw my decks are
>mono G
>UG
>UGW
>UGB
>mono R
>RB
>RWG
>UR
Father i may be homosex
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Im hoping one of the new commanders is dark bant so i can put the gender fluid robot in my current roon deck, just with more chocolate
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>>49178564
I'm not making a deck based upon some custom card.
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GIMMIE SOME DWARF, I NEED TO BUILD MY FLIGHT CREW
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>>49178573
It's okay, my decks are
>GW
>GB
>UG
>GR
>G
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>>49178573
>UGx
Disgusting.
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>>49178635
We get all combinations, there are only 5 four color combos.
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>>49178653
>1997
>No Ehcumeuqolf tribal deck

Typical fucking Orange player
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>>49177412
After I'm done with Feldon, next thing will be to probably retire Ezuri and make a fun pseudo cascade deck with that new U/Guy elf.
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>>49178696
Its gonna be nice when people realize how shit this card is and stop talking about it and faggot ass dwarf/car bullshit.
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>>49178768
why are you so salty? she's a fine lord, has decent card advantage.
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>>49178768
>Someone online doesn't like what I like?!
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How can I build a Maesltrom Wanderer chaos deck? Hive Mind and Possibility Storm come to mind.
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>>49178746
Reminder that if you can't build a deck without Brown or Yellow or themed around Trinket manipulation, you're a casual
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>>49178768
I dont give a shit about the game i just want to jerk off to the card in a plastic sleeve while i finger my own asshole

Dwarf bitches got me harder than 1st grade for niggerz boi
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>>49178768
>nofunallowed.jpg
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>>49177490
>Lili into a Gonti deck
Epitome of a waste, friend. Unless you can constantly cast Gonti through recursion his ability makes him absolutely useless.
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>>49179233
Just off the top of my head, here. There's got to be more, but this is with literally one second of though. Jesus Christ, /tg/
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>>49179233
Yeah, well. I want a mono black deck that's easy to pilot, and since black has so many tutoring abilities I'm sure you can see why it doesn't have the most straightforward play style.

The way I see it, Gonti is 100% a ramp deck. I literally don't need win cons in my deck, I can just steal those from opponents.
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>>49178696
you know i think we've got a reverse Ulrich situation going on here. like this boring lord would be strictly better, but not nearly as hyped if it just said 'other creatures you control get +1/1'.
Just like how Ulrich would be way worse if his ability said 'target werewolf gets +4/4' but there would not have been nearly as much whining. although to be fair, when was there ever not whining from magic players on the Internet. i can't remember.
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>>49177386
Lol i just noticed that
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Decent Voltron commander? I had a reanimator deck with him a few years ago. but found myself winning primarily withe commander damage.
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>>49177412
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>>49177402
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/down-down-to-goblin-town-4/

I like it. No Purphoros, though?
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>>49178573

>Mono B
>Mono B
>Mono W
>Mono G
>Mono R
>UW
>WBR
>URB
>mfw
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>>49178803
Knowledge Pool.
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reminder that other colors besides U and R need consistent ways to directly interact with the cards or abilities themselves on the stack, not just with what those cards will affect on the board
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>>49178399
Sorry to break it to you bro
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instead of focusing my efforts on many decks, I've focused on two...

Sydri, and Daretti.

And they are both very expensive.
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Any other decent sac outlets in Abzan? So far I got pic related, Evolutionary Leap and Birthing Pod.
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>>49180451
are you doing tokens, fatties or goodstuff or what
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>>49180451
Depends how much saccing you want to do. Or at least how much you can pull off.

Sadistic Hypnotist
Viscera Seer
Thoughtpicker Witch
Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
Ashnod's Altar
Altar of Dementia
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>>49180502
Karador good stuff with the bullshit quartet of Sun Titan, Saffi, Reveillark and Karmic Guide.
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>>49179992

No
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>>49180553

The bullshit quartet is actually a quintet, you can't forget loyal retainers
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>>49177832
>2WW
???
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cards that should be banned:
seedborn muse
cyclonic rift
palinchron
deadeye navigator
sol ring
mana crypt
derevi
food chain
narset

unban:
balance
sylvan primordial
braids
biorhythm
coalition victory
limited resources
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>>49180553
Disciple of Bolas
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Smothering Abomination (kinda, helps you with control)
Gate to Phyrexia (meh)
Flesh Carver
Attrition
Carrion Feeder


also some random recommendations that i came across while searching:

Deadbridge Chant
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>>49180711
>also some random recommendations
lmao forgot to write more than 1

rip
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>>49180692
>Unban Balance

Please go.
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>>49180692
Just ban all green and blue cards, they are the real reason edh is a shit format
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>>49180745

>"m-muh sacred lands don't touch"
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>>49180750
yeah and all tutors too
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>>49180750
if you think that those particular examples aren't busted in the format then you need to play the format more

it's not like U and G won't still be the best colors in the format even if those cards are banned
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>>49180765
I'm actually for that.
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>>49180692
You're an idiot.
Although I'm with you on Limited Resources
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>>49180755
I could care less about land destruction; Balance just isn't balanced. I'd be okay with a 4 CMC version of it. Probably 5+ these days, though, since we can't have 4 mana wraths anymore.
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>>49180792

so you don't think any of those cards greatly shift the format in favor of a few certain colors/strategies above any others?
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>>49180692
>Ban things I don't like unban things I do
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All my decks are online:
http://deckstats.net/decks/38880/?lng=en
Includes Grimgrin, Riku, Omnath (rage), Mimeoplasm, Sedris. Pic related.
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>>49180822
i love seedborn and DEN

they just ain't balanced senpai

every game i get either of them out becomes an easy win unless my opponents get lucky and have removal right away, made even harder with DEN

but then I also have counters, so that removal doesn't even matter that much
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>>49180840
Man, I hate Riku.
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>>49178362
Goblin bombardment, zuran orb, titania, splendid reclaimation
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>Vigilance

>When Metalic Mario enters play, each player chooses an artifact, a creature, an enchantment and a planeswalker among the nonland permanents that player controls. Then sacrifices the rest

Looks like white just got another boardwipe that is also an artifact, and a creature
Wew lad
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>>49180819
Not really. Sol ring and Crypt would be worthy of a ban, but otherwise everything's okay. I'd like to see tuck rule removed though, that's worst decision RC has ever made.
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>>49180986
>tuck rule removed
why?
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>>49177346
somebody explain this autism to me.

Why did the narset player concede? as far as I see, wanderer player is only countering an artifact?
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>>49181007
Because it was worst addition to the format. I want to keep Derevis, Prosshi, Narsets and all other retarded commanders in the bed.
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>>49181043
Probably because he's Mana Drain'ing it.
That card is pretty busted.
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>>49181056
that doesn't sound like a tuck rule problem, that sounds like a commander being too good problem
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>>49181043
I would assume that's because it's a good mana rock, and Mana Drain gives 5 mana for MW player to use.
Then again, Narset players are one of the saltiest players of the format, they just want to do degenerate things uninterrupted
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>>49181061
Ah, I see. And that would put him up to the amount of mana required to cast Maelstrom, correct?

I never scoop to maelstrom. Because I play Mayael if I see a Maelstrom player, and it's generally a fun as fuck race to see who can get the most fatties on the table as quick as possible.

It's always me
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>>49181079
Still, I think there should be actual ways to deal with the cards instead of banning everything.
One could argue that tucking is unfun mechanic, but those who play commanders that need the tuck aren't for a fun game anyway.
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>>49180924
Not a big fan of Cataclysm effects, honestly. Most of the time I play a sweeper, it's because we need to get rid of one or two giant threats that can't be deal with with spot removal. Cataclysm effects just make the problem worse.
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I have a deck idea.

Maelstrom, 97 lands, kiki jiki and bounding krasis.

r8
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>new guy in our playgroup
>we unpack our commanders
>he slaps down Leovold
>we have that look on our faces
>"don't worry, guys. I'm not gonna do degenerate shit with him."
>five turns later
>Great Auroras for like 30+, while we're all at 12/13 because no extra cards
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>>49177412
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>>49179992
Seems decent, I prefer Molimo myself.
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>>49181401
Man, I wanna build a Gitrog, but it's so costly.
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>>49180365
What is Sydri, anyway? Combo?
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Another deck from Noogai, jank master at arms!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-09-16-mayael-fatties/

Please tell me how much of a scrub I am. It arouses me
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>>49181357
maybe you shouldn't be so dependant on playing draw spells

try playing more permanents instead of trying to sit back with a full hand
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>>49181571
Is this bait?
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>>49181642

>getting beaten by leovold
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I'm looking at building my first from-scratch EDH deck- how much fun is Feldon of the Third Path to play? I like his lore/theme a lot.
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>>49181703
Feldon is pretty good as far as red goes. And he's relatively build around and he does something generally fun that also doesntess with what other people want to do. He's a pretty good choice. Most precons commanders are
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>>49181317
what do you do when bounding krasis comes out before kiki-jiki
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>>49182705
oops nvm that, it doesnt matter

sounds like a good and fun deck
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>>49181507
Anybody? Pls help.
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>>49182717
Yeah it doesn't matter because I don't need ETB except to untap kikijiki to make another krasis, which automatically happens when krasis token ETB.

And then swing with exactly enough dudes to end the game.

And either get stopped by Aetherspots, aethersnap or some form of board wipe, but whatever, it's a 12$ deck.
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>>49181703
well he's mono-red. if you don't know what "he's mono-red" means in this context then you probably shouldn't build him as your first commander. mono-red tends to be pretty one-note and goofy. with very few exceptions

with feldon, either you win big on turn 3, 4 or 5 or someone saves spot removal for you and you quickly become more and more irrelevant as the game goes on.

i think he's kinda fun to play though, i recommend testing him out on xmage. although xmage servers have been kinda shitty lately so good luck with that

there are commanders that do stuff that feldon does, but generally better and in better colors, so consider those if you like the resurrection gimmick
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>>49182735
Loses instantly to Torpor Orb
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>>49182769
I've been hearing some stuff about this "xmage". What exactly is it? Is it free? also, I assume this isn't official, so ETA on Wizards swinging the takedown-notice-hammer?
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>>49182774
It's a 12$ deck, it loses to almost literally anything.

Only one person in my meta runs torpor orb as well. And ANY deck I run loses to torpor orb as well. I don't really care though, because it's a 12$ deck made to be casual as fuck.
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What are your hopes for the rest of the Gearhulk cycle?
>Red is Ruination on a stick
It wont happen but goddamn I wish it would.
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>>49182785
it's free

google it and use the reddit page because it's a bitch to install

it works fine except when it doesnt

wizards might annihilate it at some point but it works for now
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>>49182808
honestly if you want a cheap deck that just wins instantly early on, why not make a krenko deck instead? you can get the core components for like 15 bucks and then just sprinkle in a bunch of 20 cent goblins and artifacts and shazam, you've got a deck that's actually fun to play more than once
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I really think I should put price of progress in my mizzix deck. I run mostly basics in a meta filled with utility lands. I'm not enough of a monster to use ruination though.

Y/N?
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>>49182875
What's the goal of deck? If storm, probably skip it. If anything else, add it and Ruination.
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>>49182849
Oh, because I more than intend on making a Maelstrom deck eventually, I just felt like throwing something together with 2-3 cards and going for an infinite combo for a few games to show my friends the way they're building commander decks is shit and we should try to keep it more casual unless we want to go full blown competitive league

>one plays riku turn multiplication. Turn 4 can get 7 extra turns no issue, filling the board and swinging as we're tapped out
>one plays narset extra turn infinite combo planeswalker filth
>another plays sheoldred stax
>all decks are some form of control combo bullshit that's just not fun for anybody at the table

And then there's me. You've seen my decks so far. Trostani Tokens, Mayael fatties, Meren "combo" (depends which creatures I get in my graveyard early) and Leovold wonky elf tribal.
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>>49182891
Just the usual big fireball the table for lethal.

Light touch of "everyone draw lots of cards" effects.
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>>49182899
Have you considered that those are the kind of decks they enjoy playing with/against?
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>>49182925
They enjoy playing those decks, but they all start whining the moment I talk about making a deck designed around Helm of Obedience + Rest in Peace.

It's weird.
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>>49182912
It's mostly a meta question, then. I'd probably add both if I was you.
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>>49177402
I like this deck. Maybe take Naturalize out for Beast Within? Also Goblin Grenade seems fun if you're making tokens and copying spells.
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>>49182828
Ok, thanks.
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>>49182939
bulid stax, maybe with Hokori
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Just bought the wade into battle precon deck.
Anybody with experience on this deck?
These are not colors I'm used to and I would love some advice on what to replace and keep.
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Seriously though, how do you beat Leovold?
Everytime I try to stop him, my removal gets Dazed, FoWd or something like that, and he almost always has a wheel in the turn or two after he hits the field followed by a lock card like Puzzlebox or Anvil.
Every single colour combination and deck I've played struggles against him, turn 3-5 is just too fast for me.
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>>49177412
Why do we do this every thread? everybody just posts the same pictures every single thread.
There's literally no point to this anymore. It's just the same 10 people.
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>>49183240
People say boros cannot ramp and draw cards. You know what? Those people are idiots. You just have to be fearless of symmetrical effects. Mana Flare. Boom. Double all the mana. Who cares that your opponents get some too? You use yours to play Kalemne and Gisela and anything else and fuck shit up. Hand is empty? Reforge that soul, baby. Or drop Magus of the wheel. Or use Tamiyo's Journal, not to mention Skullclamp if you have anything remotely small or tokenish, or Slate of Ancestry which is awesome. Boom.
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>>49183302
>my removal gets Dazed, FoWd or something like that
Power through it, or use graveyard shenanigans
The moment he hits the field, the Leovold player is drawing hate from everyone
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>>49183302
You walk up to the player and punch him in the face.
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>>49183302
Spot removal and board wipes in large quantities. The only way I can see is to build around him. Also something that fucks with manacosts of creatures to delay him.
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>>49183329
Thanks, Anon. Anything I don't want deal with while playing? Like a color or a commander to look out for. Certain effects and the like.
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>>49183329
>>49183410
Kher keep is amazing, especially with skullclamp added. Card Draw for days.

Also, stuff like solemn simulacrum and burnished hart can fulfill a lot of the ramp needed. White has enough reanimation to make them useful several times.

What to watch out for... I'm not sure, I'm still building my boros Brion Stoutarm deck. Something I'm a bit curious about myself.
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>>49177412
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New Commander enters the fray!
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>>49184111
>jank/10
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>>49184162
>muh tiny commanders
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>>49184111
how can they release an op commander like this for mono-red
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>>49184111
Hmmm...

No sir, I don't like it.

Also, I swear I'm not one of those "It's new so I hate it" autists, but man, "create" seems dumb. It wasn't broken, why fix it?
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>>49184111
Just like Gonti she has an ETB ability.
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>>49184200
New players thought "Put a token" meant you needed the token in your hand or some stupid shit. Create is obvious that it just shows up.
It also saves a little bit of card space as "Create" is less than "Put a.... onto the battlefield" which is fine by me.
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>>49184307
Ok, but now newfags are gonna be confused as to whether or not "creating" something procs ETB effects. There's already enough confusion about "cast" effects among these idiots.
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>>49184111
Meh?
I mean, probably decent in other formats, but I don't see her having any value in EDH. There's plenty of other stuff that does what she does and that does it better.
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>>49183410
Well white can deal with artifacts, enchantments and creatures pretty well, and red is excellent at removing artifacts too. Edict effects, ie forcing you to sacrifice creatures, can be a yuge pain in the butt, especially if all your creatures are expensive and you can't just have 10 out. Token making helps there. Counterspells can ruin your day too, but white has stuff like grand abolisher to protect you from that as well.
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>>49184200
saving words on foreign language printings is a really big deal.

especially the German printings.
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>>49184111
So Kiran was the good one of the two?
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>>49184462
>foreigners
Like I give a fuck. Make your own fucking games. And Germans need to come up with new words instead of jamming old ones together.
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>>49184462
I'm just happy if i can keep Wurmspiralmaschine.

Is anyone else getting a slight core set feel about Kaladesh so far? The spoiled cards are mostly pretty simple and there's few new mechanics, most of which just modify the basic creature combat. I think they said they wanted to dial it down with the complexity a bit with this set, and boy do I see what they mean by it. Not complaining before I actually play the set, it's probably good, I just hope limited doesn't become a race who can snowball their stupid Topan Freeblades first and attack attack attack like stupid fucking magic oranges jesus christ i hated that set
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>>49184528
the german board game and card game market is huge

like about as big as the US huge

>>49184531
I'm just glad we have 3 mechanics this time instead of 5+. they can actually explore them instead of dumping too many half baked ones.
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Looks like a nice place for Riku to hang out.
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>>49184624
>reposting this 3 threads in a row.
We get it, it's insanely good. You can stop now.
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My Riku deck has veered away from the "fun" part, it focuses more on comboing off now.

I am thinking of making new Grenzo or the new Dwarf if there are enough vehicles/dwarves.
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I haven't been around the last couple of threads, how strong is this?
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>>49184805
Depends on the deck. I'm willing to say that it's pretty good in Gitrog or Shirei or anything that relies on permanents and preferably saccing, but I wouldn't say that it's an auto-include.
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>>49184706
Your competitive playgroup looks awfully unfun. I would also have a field day against dumb narset players.
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>>49184862
The decks might have changed, I haven't been around the competitive one in a while.
I think the "M" narset is now playing either Teeg or Triplets.
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>>49184706
>Riku
>Zur
>Narset
>NARSET

Kill yourself and everyone you know as soon as possible.
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>>49184706
That is hands down one of the worst groups I've seen. The only good players are probably MB and maaaaybe MD.
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>>49177412
One day I will be able to shill out the $2000+ so that I can own all these decks, but now is not that time.
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>>49185034
Just buy the commanders and throw together whatever relevant cards you have lying around. From then on just add new cards you get from events and/or fully build a deck once you feel like playing that deck.
Building them all at once will leave some unplayed.
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>>49184111
It's firebreathing and pathclearing for something like Wurmcoil Machine, seems interesting. If only it was just R to buff.
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>>49184111
Unworthy of trips
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>>49184674
We'll keep posting it just for you
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>>49184979

Fuck what an awful playgroup
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>>49184706
Your group is horrendous
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>At least two more Planes before even the possibility of going back to Lorwyn
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>>49184706
I'd be tempted to call this a troll, but the Magic community is actually this awful. So, even if this anon is making it up, I'm sure it actually exists. Jesus.
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>magiccards.info is back up to date
Thank goodness
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>>49185625
at least you don't have to sit down with rando's only to find you are trapped with Braggo and two narsets

and you are the only one able to stop braggo's nonsense. Thank you based hushwing gryff
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Ok so I stopped playing magic around when dtk came out and was thinking of getting back into edh. I still have my Ghave deck, which was the one I put the most time into building but I've almost forgot how to pilot the thing. I looked at the decklist today and there's just so much jank in it and I have no idea what I was thinking when I made it.
Shit like varolz, deciever exarch and eidolon of blossom seem pretty shit when on their own outside of the really narrow birthing pod chain combo.
Has anyone else ever come back to an old deck and just felt aghast at the silly card choices?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-06-14-tokens-and-what-not-to-do-with-them/
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Creature - Dwarf Artificer
Servo and thopter creatures you control get +1/+1.

3W: Create a 1/1 colorless Servo artifact creature token.
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>>49185617
>Implying we're ever going back to Lorwyn

Amonkhet>Kamigawa>Alara>Magic Central/South America>???>Ravnica 3

Embrace the suffering, Anon.
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>>49185812
>kamigawa
>consistently the worst ranked planes by all metrics
>every comment made by wotc amounts to "we have no idea how to do it right"
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>>49185794
Should've been "artifact creatures you control get +1/+1"

Not bad I guess, but not likely to see EDH play
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So what do you want to see in the upcoming Commander 2016?

A new mechanic? Reprints?
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>>49185884
>Nephilim as Legendaries
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>>49185884
A decent starting manabase. I know it'll never happen, but I can dream, damn it. ;_;
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>>49185924
Why would you want those shitty cards to be the new commanders? "Wow, new space to design 4-color cards without any real restrictions!"
"Let's make the nephilim legendaries"
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>>49185884
Crucible of Worlds
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>>49185839
>We have no idea how to do it right
And yet here we are with BFZ. Besides, it's a POC plane. Bet money.
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>>49184111
>cheap
>cheap sacrifice outlet for artifacts
>slightly expensive pump ability but with mono r artifact ramp hey who knows
>tiny 1/1 thopter bonus

Just saying, I dont think she is quite as bad as most people make her out to be.
On the other hand its not like she is good at anything she does..
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>>49185884
mechanics

always mechanics
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This is just a random rules question that I couldnt find on google.

If I sacrifice a permanent and I have three creatures which have "sacrifice a permenant" abilities, do all three abilities trigger, or do I only choose one?
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>>49186023
You sacrifice something as part of a cost. You pick which one you're activating before you sac it. You can't just "sac something" without an outlet to use.

If something says "Whenever you sac something, do a thing" then those will trigger.
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>>49186064
So the only ability that triggers is the one that I specifically pick?
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>>49186023
Let's look at 2 examples. The first is Ashnod's Altar. You pay the cost of sacrificing a creature to gain CC. Because it a cost you are paying to activate the ability, if you sacrifice a creature for another reason, this ability does not trigger.

The second example is pic related. This is a triggered ability. If you were to sacrifice a creature to Ashnod's Altar, Mortician Beetle would get a +1/+1 counter. Note, however, that it does not ALLOW you to sacrifice a creature, it just gets counters when you do.

Learning the differences between activated and triggered abilities is key to success in magic. Rule of thumb: If an ability includes a colon, it's activated. If it starts with "when" "whenever" of "if" it's triggered.
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>>49186137
>activated ability
>triggered ability

this makes far more sense, thanks
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>>49177412
Still trying to build reaper.
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>>49186137
Forgot the damn pic
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>>49186137

Actually, "If" means that it is a replacement effect of sometype. Or an old ass card where WotC was still in the same implementation of rulings as Yu-Gi-Oh! is.
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>>49184805
it'll likely draw removal before you hit it's effect.
same as tomes and other counter shit.
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>>49186208
Ah, good call. I think I probably meant "at"
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>>49184111
Hey now i can have my mother and daughter fetish.
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>>49177412
Played this Sunday: Queen Marchesa twice (need to update this thing later), MW, and Mazirek
Really digging the Queen's card value. Having a good chunk of instants to draw into is so great, and getting back the Monarch has proven to be way more easier than I thought it would be. Odric, Lunarch Marshal is an all-star in this deck because I learned that his ability activates /on each combat/ meaning if you have the Queen or her Assassin token out, your guys are going to all be badass walls.

MW I am slowly coming to realize that the things I could be doing in blue, I can just do in Red. It has clone effects, but with cards like Heat Shimmer and its variants I can accomplish the same thing without shoe-horning a third color. I am currently looking to convert the deck to either Jund using Kresh/Prossh (switching between the two metas) or Wort, the Raidmother since it already has a sub-theme for Goblins.

Mazirek didn't get a lot of screen time due to drawing badly the whole game, and multiple "gain control" effects on the board
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MAGICCARDSINFO HAS BEEN UPDATED TO ELDRITCH MOON

I REPEAT, MAGICCARDSINFO HAS BEEN UPDATED
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>>49186481
>Its real
Oh shit waddup
Now let's time how long it will take for Conspiracy II to come up
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>>49181491
Yup.
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>>49186539
Conspiracy 2 is up too!
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>>49183240
She's my favorite deck to play. For your inspiration:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kalemne-sitter-of-faces/
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>>49186633
What kind?
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>>49186665
not funny stop posting
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>>49184111
Here's that new artificer you wanted so badly! Hope you like it!
t. Maro
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>>49186649
Nice
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>>49185978
May as well run Pia and Kiran since it makes more tokens and lets you sac any artifact to deal 2 damage.
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>>49186689
Last time I posted it was 5 threads ago.
the person brought up the commander themself

if it botheres you this much just ignore it instead of giving me (You)s
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>>49186681
Infinite mana shenanigans. Goal is to combo out as fast as possible with protection, or play a sort of controll-y route if you know you can't slap down a winning combo early and just glide in at the right times. Horribly unfair deck in my meta, as I can win as early as turn 1 (with magical christmas land opener and draw). I average around turn 4-5.

My other deck is just a really strange Daretti deck that wins by replicating memory jar a shit load of times, or finding a combo and comet storming the whole table. Or dropping Kozilek, Butcher of Truth on turn 2. Fun times.
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>>49186904
>be me

Yes we assume it's you if you're giving the greentext story. No need to be redundant, leddit. Try again without that.
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>>49186987
That's how every single greentext used to start, newfriend.

>I MADE FUN OF REDDIT, GUYS. DID YOU SEE? GUYS! AM I COOL NOW?

Summertime and the postin's shitty.
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>>49187085
No, it really isn't how every single greentext used to start. Maybe if you started browsing last year it did.
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>>49187066
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>>49187102
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>>49186987
>Started College about a week ago.
>Classes were done for the day so I decided to play a couple of matches.
>Playing with a couple of friends and a Professor.
>Having a great time until some fat ass in full camo walks up carrying munition crates full of EDH decks.
>Asks to play.
>First Deck: Jhoira infinite turns. The match lasts for what feels like forever and I can feel myself aging.
>Guy says he has a second deck, so we go again. Daretti mindslaver.
>Second match takes longer so I check my Email. Guy gets pissed off because I'm being "disrespectful" or some shit.
>Fatass wins and is really fucking proud of himself.
>go to LGS yesterday to pick up a model and some paints, hang out because I like the people who go there.
>Here a guy yelling.
>Same Guy. Same Clothes. bitched out of a Conspiracy II draft in the first round.
This made my weekend.

We Happy?
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>>49186904
Been working through my first few weeks myself, gonna go to the Card Game Club meetup tonight to see what the MtG scene is like, here's to hoping I don't sperg out.
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Spicy tech for a BW lifegain deck?
>inb4 hurr durr lifegain go kill yourself
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>>49187294
Paying over 50 life into Hatred
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>>49185633
Thank god, I was getting nervous
>>49187294
Who's the commander? Karlov? Ayli?
If karlov, go for essence harvest/dazzling reflection.
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>>49187294
Run Ayli and exile everything
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>>49187294
Rhox Faithmender
Proper Burial if you're running Ayli
Phyrexian Processor if you want to weaponize your life gain.
If you're running Ayli, Tree of Perdition is really good.
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>>49177412
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>>49186972
Why Sydri, though?
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>>49187397
Pls no bully it was the first mythic I ever drew.
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>>49187212
>same clothes
>crystalpepsi.jpg
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>>49183302
Fuck removal. Sure you should have it and play it if you can, but if you really want to keep him off the table, at that cmc and in those colors, you need to steal him. Otherwise hes just gonna come back. Just steal the fuck out of, or copy him.
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>>49187416
>Phyrexian Processor
That's a great card. Will use it if I can get it.
Thanks.
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>>49187416
>If you're running Ayli, Tree of Perdition is really good.
Why?
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>>49187599
Honestly, it's cool. I'd rather see an uncommon commander than the same shit every game
>>49183302
Nevermore, declaration of naught, darksteel mutation
>>49187697
Swap tree's toughness with an opponents life total, then Sac the tree with ayli to gain like 40 life
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>>49187697
Take your oversized life total, change it to 13, then sac the tree to gain that much life or more if you have doublers.
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>>49187749
Only targets opponents.

Still, a good effect for 4 mana if you can pull it off.
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>>49187749
Wrong tree, you're thinking of tree of redemption
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>>49187552
Because she enables some infinites with her abilities and some other cards. And I just like her. -Shrug-
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>>49187740
>>49187749
I assume that I have to have sanguine bond out in order for this to work? Or am I missing something?
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Haven't played Magic in years, recently got back into it after watching some friends play an EDH game. Been working on this Glissa the Traitor infect deck. Any advice?
http://deckstats.net/deck-11031902-2c4c1e0bd483d87fcf7692ffa8daa215.html

There's a couple black staple cards I'd like to add, but I'm just really unsure of what to take out for them, and if they even really fit with the theme of the deck or not. I'm also well aware of Skittles, and things like Blightsteel Colossus but I'd rather avoid those in my current playgroup, also budget concerns.
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>>49187740
>Honestly, it's cool. I'd rather see an uncommon commander than the same shit every game
Also thanks, it means a lot to hear its not completely silly to hold onto a card for sentimental value. Especially when its a commander.
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i was really skeptical about this card because 7 mana enchantments that need to survive a round of turns are not really my thing but this card just keeps winning me games basically all on its own

ive noticed its especially great as a recovery play, like i'll have a big board of creatures that i built with my first 4-5 turns, but after a lot of removal spells and wipes get cast, they finally destroy my board

then my next turn i play this with just 1-2 creatures in hand left, and since they used all their removal in the previous battle, it often lives, and i go off turn 7 or so

i highly recommend considering it for your big mana creature decks, but maybe it only works in my meta because its a heavily black and blue centered meta. if everybody's in green white there may be too much artifact/enchantment removal and not enough mana rocks to eat up said removal
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>>49187937
No problem man! There will be people that make fun of you for using ghost council, don't take it seriously. Diverse commanders are a part of what makes commander fun.
I play tsabo tavoc, and I LOVE how the deck runs. I'm building enderek sahr stax and tymaret boardwipes and pain
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>>49188013
Nah. Also the art is about as shit as it gets for ogw.
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>>49187927
>my playgroup doesn't like good infect creatures
Why play infect, then?
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>>49188013
I mean, I have one, and I would totally use it, but the art is just too shit.
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>>49188071
>>49188091

fair enough yeah, not a fan of the whole gatewatch storyline much
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>>49188073

Because I like infect? Also Skittles is a 10 dollar card, and Blightsteel is like 20, so... yea, not gonna happen probably.
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>>49188118
But why would you play infect with no good infect?
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>>49188157

Skittles and Blightsteel isn't the be-all end all of infect?
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>>49188182

i think hes just saying that there arent really enough infect cards for you to forego the 2 best ones

especially since youre only in golgari and youre missing out on blighted agent and also blue proliferate stuff
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>>49188227

But to say any infect deck without Skittles or Blightsteel isn't worth playing is simply stupid. Also I once tried splashing blue back when this stuff was standard, and I just really don't like blue.
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>>49187889
Ayli's ability gains you life if you sac a creature. Tap the tree, make someone have 13 life, then Ayli sacs the tree and nets you 40 life.
With Sanguine bond out you would just kill them, yeah, but its still good on its own.
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>>49187889
The tree combo? OK, let's take this from the top.

On field is ayli, tree of perdition. Tap the tree to swap opponents life total for the trees toughness (13) and use ayli's ability to sacrifice the tree and gain life equal to the trees toughness (probably 40, or 30 something)

Now your opponent has 13 life and you have around 80 or so.
You can add effects like life doublers or sanguine bond to add on that effect
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>>49177511
29 swamps, but don't worry, I have Dark Ritual too.
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Buil this on a whim.

Deck is super cheap to build. Already have most of the good cards for it anyway.

Anyone done this deck before?
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>>49188621

I could see good use out of this with Sudden Spoiling.
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>>49188558
And then you get beat in the face with 21 commander damage.

Lifegain is a meme in commander. Trust me, I play trostani.
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>>49181357

>People bitching about Leovold
>What are Library of Leng, Nephalia Academy, Madness cards, instant speed removal, 1-mana counterspells, declaration of naught/nevermore, Wilt-Leaf Liege, etc etc etc.
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>>49188621
Are you doing shadowborn apostles?

Yeah, the deck was my second one. Was trying to build a grindy sacrifice deck without the apostles, ended up with lots of dead draws, and being very slow. Used alot of 1/1s in the deck.

Came back to it a year later, built and tested online a list with apostles and demons just to see if it was worth buying, and it wasn't grindy enough for me. I wanted to make the most of cards like attrition. It seemed too...samey... every match tutored for the same demon. It's cool if you're into that , wasn't for me. I'm building endrek instead
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>>49188558
Holy shit I need to look closer at cards. That is a powerful trick. Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>49185943
Just make them the reprint secondary commanders in the 99. Done.
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>>49188865

Everything you listed is either misguided and unhelpful (madness, library of leng) or something that works on any annoying commander, but less so against leovold (removal, counterspells, nevermore)
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>>49188728
I wasn't advocating for lifegain, I was explaining how the combo worked.

And honestly, it's not a meme in a more casual playgroup. As long as you can prevent infinite combo wins, commander damage and infect, you're golden. It's only a meme if you're in a high power level meta
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>>49188925 #
Im not. Im trying to get rid of Meren and make Shirei just general reanimator, with main focus on those small creatures.
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>>49189436
I see what you're going for, give it a shot and see how it feels. I'm not a fan, but we're all different.

Green really adds a lot to reanimator. You may miss it
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>>49189473
>infinite damage
I'd love to be in a situation where I can gain any amount of life at instant speed and someone is trying to dish out infinite damage. Then we get to shout high numbers at each other until someone concedes.
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>>49188662
>sudden spoiling
What's the synergy there?
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>>49189691

He's saying sudden spoiling your own guys, then they have power 1 or less

He may have forgotten that sudden spoiling will remove shirei's ability, or he's saying you cast Shirei afterward

Seems dumb either way
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>>49189745

I was thinking using a a weaker board wipe to take out their board while they are all 0/2s and then gaining all their creatures.
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>>49189796

You gotta read Shirei again m8
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>>49189816
>your graveyard

Welp.
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>>49177683
>Narset
How bout you kys desu sempai
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>>49189588
So long as the infinite damage is in chunks (1 damage, 5 dmg etc)
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>>49189876
You have to name a number for infinite anything. They say 5000, I say gain 10000 in response.
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>>49189876

What's the point of collective blessing here?
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>>49185884
WUBR Artifacts deck Urza Legendary Creature

UBRG Enchantments with a focus on accelerated card draw/ramp

BRGW Tokens out the ass

RGWU No clue honestly, burn I guess?

GWUB Counters (+1/+1, -1/-1, Charge, Poison, whatever you can think of)

Reprints of the dual-color Theros Gods (Two to a deck)

Reprints of Checklands, Pain Lands or Shocklands, just any dual lands that aren't Guildgates/Scry Lands
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>>49188621
My friend has a Shirei deck with a huge focus on little artifact creatures like bottle gnomes and triskelion. Theres also a ton of good little black guys to kill as long as you have sac outlets. Plus its every turn, so its value as fuck. Its very good once he has a few pieces in play.
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>>49189951

>UBRG enchantments deck

What the actual fuck are you thinking? Why the fuck would the enchantments deck be the not-white deck, of all 5??
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>>49183302

clone or copy him.
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>>49189923
To gain infinite life.

Let's pose that your opponent has the card that lets you sac a creature to deal 1 damage to a player. He also has darkest hour and the commander that makes a 1/1 spirit whenever a black creature dies, so he uses this for an inifnite loop.

He keeps saying "X amount of damage" and you go "X amount of damage healed, times 4!", as your 1/1 soldiers turn into 4/4's.
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>>49190186

This is actually the best plan, better than removal anyway

>i swords to Plowshares Leovold
>mental misstep, thanks for the card draw btw
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>>49190207
Shouldn't collective blessing say, "enters the battlefield with +3/+3 counters" instead? Otherwiseven aren't the counters just static and aren't even applied until after the creature hits the field?
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>>49190207

I don't think that works, if he can loop damage at instant speed, he can just keep responding to your triggers with 1 more damage until you're dead

In order to stop an infinite damage combo you need to be able to respond at instant speed to his damage with your lifegain
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-09-16-kruphix-edh/

My Kruphix deck I was thinking of building. Anyone have any suggestions for cards I should add to it? Any tech I should be aware of?
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>>49190238

Well yeah, static bonuses only apply to creatures, and creatures aren't creatures until the moment they enter the battlefield, BUT abilities that trigger upon entering the battlefield won't resolve until the static bonus has already applied so there's no need for creatures to etb with counters to get the desired effect here

And collective blessing would be infinitely worse in most cases because it wouldn't buff the creatures you already had in play, only the ones you play after
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>>49190244
Thing is, if you take the damage 1-2 at a time, there's no way he can stop your life gain. Unless you're at 1 life.

He does one point of damage. The ability goes on the stack, damage resolves, my ability triggers, netting me a soldier, which nets me life.

It all happens at instant speed, i'm pretty sure. I am pretty tired though.

>>49190238
Collective blessing is a board wide buff. The boardstate checks for buffs as a creature enters.
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>>49190300

No it doesn't work that way

Let's say he has Melira, viscera seer, and murderous redcap, you have your Trostani Darien combo

He sacrifices redcap, it returns to play, 2 damage trigger on the stack, that resolves, your soldiers trigger goes on the stack, in response to that soldier trigger, he sacs redcap, it comes back in and deals to 2 damage to you, you put another soldier trigger on the stack, he responds by sac'ing redcap

And so on

He could even let the soldiers resolve and respond to trostani's lifegain trigger if he wanted, makes no difference

You will die with 40 soldiers on the stack
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>>49190362
When you sacrifice redcap it hits the graveyard and it creates a trigger for persist, which you opponent can respond to. As your redcap is in the yard, you cannot sacrifice it, and he will heal.
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>>49190362

To clarify, in order to beat the Melira redcap combo you would need something that gains infinite life at instant speed like archangel of thune + spike feeder

Now when he sacs redcap, you respond to the persist trigger by starting your own combo, and he can no longer interrupt your triggers by restarting his because redcap is in the graveyard still with persist on the stack

You gain infinite life then pass priority, he starts his up again and whittles you down from infinity, then finally you stop him again with persist on the stack and gain infinite life again

A true stalemate

Although actually it's not because I think he can direct redcap damage to spike feeder, so maybe that was a poor choice of examples
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>>49190518

You're correct, I'm only referring to the combo he posted above, which only included trostani, Darien, and collective blessing

He thought he could beat infinite damage since he would gain 4 life for every 1 point of damage dealt to him but it won't work because it's all triggers
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Whats a good proxy seller for MtG cards? I remember one chink being mentioned on here, think his handle started with a J or something, but forgot it. I don't wanna spend lodesmone for certain cards for some of my EDH decks, but i'd like some nice prroxies to fill the slots instead of printed out stuff.
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>>49190588
starcitygames.com is great.
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>>49190617
fuk off cunt
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>>49190633
If you buy proxies you aren't even really playing the game though.
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>>49188013
I use it in mono green ramp and it's fucking ridiculous at how strong this card is. I use it because i can easily drop it and i don't give a shit about the art.
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>>49190144
Alright, throw the Enchantment deck in RGWU then (No black since we just had the Daxos deck), but then what would UBRG be, just huge dudes with some mix of graveyard recursion and discard?
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>Friend has recently discovered this as a silver bullet against my Zirilan deck
FUCK
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>>49190848
>brother makes a dragon commander recently
>you post this card

Thank you
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>looking through cards to find some new saucy pieces for a deck
>notice that a lot of artists with a more abstract style stopped doing pieces around Lorwyn-Shadowmoor
Why must this happen? Also:

>Phil Foglio will never do art for a return to Lorwyn set
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>>49190588
Chinamen is the chink site.

Don't use proxies
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>>49177758
Maybe a general that sits on a throne with good defences?
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>>49178362
Land destruction.
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>>49177838
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>>49177758
If your playgroup let's you run this, use pic related as the princess
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>>49184111
I actually really like this. I like being able to give thopters firebreathing, to me that is her ability. The one that comes with her is cherry. I bet I'd really enjoy some mana heavy red deck that built up for creature strikes instead of fireball. And the last ability is fine, why not have a small and easy way to manipulate the field for fun, tacticool games? I enjoy creature combat, I do. Also makes a good start to artifact reanimator since she can eat them herself.

I think she's pretty great actually, just looks boring because there's no large numbers on it.
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>>49191134
Oloro
>>49177758
Run the card meekstone!
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>>49177412
Here, here

>>49183302
I know a leovold is coming to my LGS soon, so I'm just gonna have to remember to keep some counterspells open to protect my abundance. Leovold being on board will probably be a big boon to my intet deck anyway, since I only want to draw lands and keep ly spells topdeck, and unless I've got burgeoning out, I can only benefit from drawing one land a turn, anyway?

>>49185884
>>49185924
I really like inktreader, personally. I feel like an entire deck having it at helm might be kinda exhausting. I wouldn't mind seeing artifact or elsewise colorless creatures who just have 4 activated abilities in each of its deck's colors.
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>>49191288
I don't understand why they made her firebreathing so expensive, personally.
Just a R wouldn't make it broken, just decent.
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>>49191044
Avon does some amazing lands. Not sure if he still does or not.
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>>49191347
You're not wrong, it is frustrating. But I'm not going to let it take it from me. Maybe it's boring but I think in play I'll find myself having a ton of fun with these admittedly weak abilities.
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>>49190846

UBRG could be like a sacrifice theme deck, it's anti-white, and white is the color of teamwork and fairness, so to go against that we have a deck with selfish creatures that sac other creatures to feed themselves like prossh or devour creatures
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>>49191044
I enjoyed the art of Larry MacDougal.
>>49177758
Does the princess have to be legendary or a non-legendary creature?
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>>49191372
He's still around, but I don't think he's hand-painting stuff. He did announce recently that he's going to use paints and not digital for something upcoming

>>49191402
Drew Tucker or RKF are my favorites
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WHAT THE FUCK

This is a really good card for mono black decks

I thought Beacon of Unrest was a fluke
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>>49191607
Good card in general, I'd draft that shit
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>>49191607
Mono black? Meren just got more hilariously bullshit
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>>49191607
I love colour-shifted cards
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>>49191607

oh baby.
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>>49190588
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/magical-Game-the-king-gathering-card-silver-bundle/32639827313.html?spm=2114.08.3.17.y6JrHY&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201602_3_2010014_10036_10035_10034_507_10020_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201603_9&btsid=f97f0580-8fb7-4748-9a68-ca83135553f0

is the link

card list is here:
http://imgur.com/a/x2dIV

I've ordered from this guy many times, like 95% of the cards are excellent quality.
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>>49191738
Man, SoM was a depressing block
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Hey guys, what is the most diplomatic/political commander, whose win cons are big creatures beating face late game, and include UG in their identity?
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>>49192285
probably something Temur but none of them are particularly political

Edric sounds like a better fit but his game plan is 1-drop and 2-drop evasive fuckers
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>>49192529
I was afraid of that. I love Edric's ability but I hate the whole weenie based strategies. Oh well, I will have to make compromises. What about some UGx or UG commander who fit a doctor/biology theme?
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>>49192698
Ditch the nasty U and go full Seleysna with Trostani
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>>49192285
Tasigur. Use his ability as a bargaining chip to get cards back while going insane with Gitrog and Life from the Loam.
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>>49192698

Momir vig is literally a UG biologist
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>>49178573
>G
>WG
>BR
>BUG

>WU and WR in the works, awaiting UR news

i-is this actually cancerous? (It's Dwynen, New Siggy, Old Grenzo, Mimeoplasm, then Brago, what was going to be Adrianna but is now new dorf, and if not good UR artificer then Melek, and considering both Marchesas in the future)
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>>49180924
Best part is if you have a creature with an attached flicker effect like Roon of the Hidden Realm, Mistmeadow Witch, or Eldrazi Displacer, you can choose this guy as your artifact and the flicker-er as your creature.
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>>49177758
the 4/4 teysa could be the princess
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>>49180209
What would happen if you had knowledge pool and possibility storm on the field?
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New chandra
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>>49194609
>Chandra_the_Fire_Sculptor.jpg
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>>49194609
Chandra, the Fire Sculptor
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Any ideas for a demon and/or vampire tribal EDH deck?

Better to go mono black or maybe BR or BW? or even BRW?
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>>49194609
Would play it for both +1's alone.
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>>49194541
I would probably go home.
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>>49194609
Finally! A Chandra I actually want to use!
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>>49194609
That looks pretty solid
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