/wg/ - Weaver Dice/Worm General #4: Can't stop the Clock Edition

Better than the previous OP.

Should it be /wdg/?

What's the best way to set up a WD game?

What are bad powers for PCs to have?

>>49164887
should probably be /wdg/, now that I think about it

best way (assuming your the GM) is to set something up on Roll20 and ask for players, try not to drown in the wave that will pop up

bad as in "this power is shit" or "welp there goes my BBEG"

>>49165034
>bad as in "this power is shit" or "welp there goes my BBEG"
I'd assume the latter, as well as "that just trivialized the game". So high-end trumps and the like. Having a player use Hatchet Face for example, then give him a LMG and he'll ruin people.

>>49164745
Clock and taytay are worm's otp.

>>49164887
>What are bad powers for PCs to have?
Depends on the system. But generally, for all systems (and really all settings):

* Powers which are balanced around a critical, but disguised, weakness. For example, Shadow Stalker's; either the GM brings in the weakness and stupidly fuckpwns her, or she's virtually invulnerable. This is great for NPCs, because your players can feel clever for working out the weakness, but not so great for PCs because you already KNOW the weakness.

* Powers where strategy quickly collapses to a single repetitive technique. Again, Shadow Stalker's a good example. She can do some cool stuff, but much of it boils down to "desolidify, shoot people," which is not very interesting for a player. For NPCs, these kinds of powers are great, because it's easier for the GM to handle a bunch of them, but for PCs, nah.

* Passive powers. Auras would be a big example. These kinds of powers are fine, alongside another, more active, power, but as a sole power they're awful for the GM and player, because the player is doing nothing, basically. A similar issue shows up for PtV knockoffs; the GM tells the player what to do, and then they do it. Yawn.

* Powers the player can't really anticipate or use. For example, every time you blast somebody, the GM rolls 1d4 and picks between four different shot types with wildly different results. It makes it impossible to plan, and by extension, makes the player uninvolved in actual results of their plans.

* Powers where it's difficult to make it consistently clear to the player what options they have, in a prompt and brief manner. It's fine for the power to shift with each round or turn, for example, but it should do so in a way that the player can understand how it has changed with minimal muss or fuss.

* Powers which rely on circumstances or criterion outside the players' control to work properly.

Give me your fanfic pitches.

>>49166371
Taylor escapes into the real world and kills everyone on Spacebattles.

>>49166380

I would read it.

>>49166371
Taylor gets a Heartbreaker-esque Master power instead of her normal one.

>>49166380
10/10 would read

>>49166371
Taylor starts out as the bully.

>>49166371
Taylor permanently turns into a swarm of insects.

>>49166371
Taylor second-gens/pings off of Sophia and gets a shadow-based Master power. She puts two and two together, confronts Sophia, shadow fight.

>>49166509
Mirrorverse. It's smut as hell.

>>49166647
Like Nyktophobia's?

Damn, feel bad that it's not continuing.

>>49166371
An interdimensional get together of all the taylors in a yearly get together inside a pocket dimension.

Oh wait......somebody already did that....

>>49166371
More Regent.

>>49168328
Fund it.

>>49168028
What, all the fanfic Taylors?

>the Tinkers are off in a corner, building -something-
>the ones in relationships are arguing who is best girl/boy

>>49164887
>What are bad powers for PCs to have?
Over on the IRC, the general notion is that not all powers are created equal, so it doesn't matter TOO much if something is a little broken or a little weak.

It just needs to be interesting, and that really falls down to whatever horde of numbskulls you have generating the power.

Ideally, you match the trigger to the power type (If the player triggered by shitting himself in public, he'd get a Stranger/Sneaky power for example.), and you make sure it's not armor-face or knife-face as much as possible:

>He got punched in the face, so his power is that he has an armored face xD
>He got knifed in the face, so his power is stabbing people with his faces knife xD

Don't fucking do that. It should be related thematically to the trigger, but not a direct answer to the trigger, and "Lol, he replicates the conditions of his trigger when he fights other people now." is not the way to handle it either.

In my experience, you also don't go out of your way to balance the hardcore drawbacks (It hurts you to use!), you just let there be inherent limitations, like not being able to teleport a million times a second, for example.

Hardcore drawbacks and positives should be rolled in the luck phase.

I've seen some people here get pissy about rolling luck AFTER, but here's the straight dope: The reason for that is not being able to determine how good your powers are is the whole point. Rolling luck simulates this, and negates subconscious balancing.

Also, this >>49166334

Would have brought this up myself, but he had it covered so I got into guidelines instead of recommendations.

I'd say don't go out of your way to give the player a FLAW to their power, just let those drawbacks make natural sense. Also, stuff like the powers NOT just being a passive effect or functioning like an on/off switch of boring repetition should be kept in mind, but it's hard to negate entirely, don't worry too much, just try your best.

Has Wildbow ever talked about where he gets his inspiration? Because a lot of his more disgusting ideas feel a bit like the sort of gross fetish porn one has to wade through to find cute monstergirls on /d/.

Is Worm good? I have seen many fanfictions in Sufficient Velocity and SpaceBattles. Also, co you expect me to read a long webnovel in a monitor?

>>49168859
I feel the same way, Helen being a seductress that tears her prey limb from limb with her unstoppable grasp sounds like some /d/ shit. Except they don't allow guro on /d/. No way he doesn't have weird fetishes if he came up with that.

I know where he's coming from.

>>49168894
Worm is good, but it also appeals to an autistic kind of person. That's not really an insult, just a straight up fact. I read through it myself, but you have to be dedicated to go through over a million words of eye strain to really get into it.

As a consequence, I consider most of the fanfic to be Naruto-tier shit because the setting easily lends itself to autistic 14 year old's literally self-inserting themselves into the stories with, again, literal *teleports behind you*-tier shit.

For that reason I'd say the fanfic community is generally worse than most other communities you'll see.

I'm getting off on a tangent though, Worm is good. Why the fuck do you think this thread exists?

Just get HBO on the line and tell them that if they want a slice of the superhero craze pie they need to greenlight this right now, before the rest of Phase 3 rolls around and DC keeps burying itself.

>>49168768

>the ones in relationships are arguing who is best girl/boy
it's madison

>>49168768

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-annual-taylor-hebert-reunion-worm-meta-crossover.397696/

>>49169077
>but you have to be dedicated to go through over a million words of eye strain to really get into it.
I have to agree here. The only reason I read it in the first place is because I managed to find a pdf version.

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Post extraordinary human characters that would fit in/are too dangerous for other characters in Worm.

>>49170119
>that would fit in/are too dangerous
Which one is it?

>>49170165
Upupupupupupupupupup....

Defintely dangerous though.

>>49166371
Taylor starts at Khepri-level power.

>>49166608
That's already happened at least once, titled Fragmentation, has thirteen chapters published on spaec battels.

>>49166371
Blasto creates the Morrigan, which fights off Defiant and Bonesaw. Blasto is forced to continue upping his game and raising the stakes because now he has a kill order.

>>49166380
>>49166446
>>49166509
>>49166608
>>49166647
>>49168768

Can I ask, why does everyone feel the urge to keep writing fanfiction about Taylor? She's not a particularly compelling character.

An interesting fic would be about 'stories set in the world of Worm', the way all Weaver Dice campaigns are. For instance, a guy who's posted to Brockington Bay during the two-year timeskip, and has to deal with the Undersiders and the Red Hands as a member of the Wards.

>>49171749
>my opinions are objective fact
>I must share this as quickly as possible
kys tbqh my man

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>>49171195
Already done.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/dominion-worm-s9-taylor.340669/

>>49171749

thats probably more a fact about the history of spacebattles than it is anything to do with worm itself.

ZnT was the big thing there before worm. alternate power Taylor fics are a natural follow on to "Louise summons X" fics.

>>49171863

Those sound pretty terrible, especially the crossovers.

>>49171749
People that write fanfics are retarded and don't have creativity of their own beyond aping animu bullshit.

So, yeah, it's gonna suck.

Luckily they're also too autistic to get into a decent roleplaying game or GM anything.

>>49171749
On the one hand, you're wrong, Taylor is a compelling character.

On the other hand, that would be an interesting story.

On the same hand, I hate alt-Taylor fics with a passion, because so far, the characterization chops of Spacebattles are non-existent.

>>49171749
Terminally uncreative fanfiction authors and terminally retarded fanfiction readers who don't want to actually read anything new or interesting.

>>49171924
Then again, ZnT is shit. It makes sense that the fanfics it spawns are shit.

>>49171957

Hi, Nox.

Truebeast's Dragon Unchained was good and original.

>>49171957
>>49171951
JinglyJangles and Harbin write compelling stuff. Thinker6 too.

the link for the game in the OP is the same document as the "Oldversion" of the game?

Asked this in the last thread but what would people like to see or have if I ran a game ? Heroes,villains or rouges ? Would people be fine with weaversdice?

>>49172691
I want rouges, crimsons and scarlets of every shade all around.

What are your favourite claasifications of powers? I personally like breakers, just seeing what powers come out of them can be interesting and they are usually pretty cool.

>>49172691
Heroes.

>>49172188
Not him.

>>49173479
Knew it!

>>49166371
Any of y'all read Firefly? It features a genderbent Lung as the main change, with the personality obviously shifting a bit.

Wondering about other characters that would be radically different as the opposite gender.

>>49173883
If Taylor had been a boy, she would have banged the shit out of Lisa.

>>49173944

Lisa's power means she doesn't enjoy sex, though.

>>49174098
There's always Rachel.

>>49174098
Boy Taylor would've fucked Lisa so hard she'd get over her complex.

>>49174140
Girl Taylor is into muscular hunks like Grue and Legend. Boy Taylor would presumably not be into the mega-butch Bitch, but instead into the cute blonde Lisa.

>>49164745
>Worm General

How long has this been a thing?

>>49172691
Rogues, leaning towards Villainy
Weaver Dice is perfectly fine

>>49168894
It's got its good points and its bad points. The World-building is too notch with some honestly pretty amazing powers, mechanics and characters but the plot suffers from severe pacing issues.

>>49172691

Whichever. Usually villains are more interesting, but heroes like Vigilant (Glory hound, homophobe, OCD and xenophobe) in WDSingapore can be really fun to watch.

>>49174186
Three threads ago?

The one thing I want to know is how WildBow came up with the concept of multidimensional space whales that control vast shards of semi-organic matter that can attach to lesser beings and give them the ability to bend physical laws.

>>49174301
He stole it from Exalted.

>>49174301
I once assumed he was drunk when he came up with the pan-galactic gargle fucks that are the Entities, but apparently he doesn't drink

>>49174310
Exaltations aren't fundamentally different from shit like Shazam or Lantern Rings. The only difference is that they affect the soul. Even then, they're a far cry from how powers work in Worm.

>>49174285
About a month then?

>>49174370
about a week

>>49174370
Think it's been more like a week. The past few threads moved pretty fast, but they're burning out now.

>>49174410
I didn't realize Weaver Dice was so popular. Last I heard, the system was only partially finished.

>>49173944
I'm trying really hard to envision Taylor as a boy and how it'd affect her personality, her relationship with Emma and if the bullying would even happen at all.

If it did, it'd arguably be worse if Taylor had a crush on Emma.

>>49174440
setting has been discussed more than the game system, but the conversation is starting to shift that way now
which is good, I might finally be able to find a fucking game
>>49174454
oh
oh man that'd be FUCKED

>>49174454
>Taylor had a crush on Emma.
Or on Sophia.

So the endbringers were losing on purpose all along right?

>>49174628
They were causing enough damage that they couldn't be ignored, and only leaving after being hit with sufficient force. But yes, every time they "lost," it was because they wanted to.

>>49174628
Not exactly losing on purpose, as they did win some battles, but they were holding back.

>>49174610
>male!Skitter and Shadow Stalker fighting
>"Stop paying attention to Grue!"

>>49174628
They were basically showing up, wrecking things, and leaving after they got scratched. More throwing the match.

>>49174679
>>49174688
>>49174892
And that was because they were only doing anything at all in the first place to act as opponents to eldion right?

>>49166371
A Guts and Glory prequel fic set in Boston where they try to save the city from Accord and Blasto who are in the middle of tearing the city apart.

>>49175070
The alternate earths and stuff showed that endbringers are there to stir up conflict but because this cycle got fucked because Eden died, so the endbringers were broken and linked to eidolon somehow. I think there isn't really word of God on it but it alludes to him activating them somehow or having a part in the ones on earth bet.

>>49174283
How is WD Singapore coming along?

>>49174628
It wasn't so much that they were gimping themselves, they were just acted really unintelligently (on purpose). They made a big show out of stomping around and destroying things, as opposed to just obliterating everything at once.

>>49175638

I get a turn in a few weeks. So far there are sessions for 'Amos Yee with superpowers' and 'Glory-seeking eye guy'.

>>49174477
No doubt about that. Though Taylor probably would barely resemble herself as a boy.

Boys and girls are different mentally, as far as I remember.

Did siberian die by the end?

Here's a few powers I came up with for a fanfic but will probably never use:
>Tinker
Can conjure tinkertech out of thin air, but everything disappears when he loses concentration. Larger or more complex devices require more concentration to maintain, and attempting to split focus can dematerialize only PART of some devices, leading to potentially catastrophic failures. The user always as the right tool for the job, but ONLY that tool, and any distraction or surprise can render him temporarily helpless.

>Mover
Projects skeletal limbs made of lightning from his body with great force. The limbs only appear for short bursts, but can come out again immediately and move with tremendous speed and strength. Every projection results in a thunderclap and a bright flash, rendering the user a combination concussion grenade/strobelight that can move at speeds limited only by his body's ability to withstand acceleration and crumble cars into balls of molten metal.

>Striker/Blaster
Can greatly accelerate time for any inorganic object he touches, limited only by volume. The user uses this ability to massively increase the speed and momentum of projectiles, throwing rocks straight through solid steel a hundred yards away and shooting bullets that hit with the force of high explosive anti-tank rounds. In addition he can massively boost the speed of mechanized transportation, breaking the sound barrier on any common car for example. Objects he uses his power on become extremely cold, as if bathed in liquid nitrogen, and may fail or shatter after extended use.

(continued)

>>49177664
>Blaster/Thinker/Stranger
The user fires piercing sliver/green energy blasts that first damage, then reset people and objects to before they were shot. the user retains constant awareness of the location and trajectory of these shots, and at any time can replay them, reverting the target to it's damaged state and continuing on to hit other targets. i.e. he shoots a guard, wounding him severely, then the guard snaps back to before he was shot with no memory of the time passed. The guard then goes on break several hours later and enters a sealed room with a VIP, as he turns to face him, he falls to the ground wounded and the shot hits the VIP, killing him. The VIP then snaps back to perfect health, only to die several days later by what appears to be a new attack but is actually the old one finally being triggered.

>Master/Shaker
Objects within the range of the user gradually become alive and aware, subtly altering into bloodthirsty insectoid monstrosities that mimic the appearance and function of what they originally were. They respond to the will of the user, laying dormant until he wants them to move and then unfolding and attacking. The process takes several hours initially, and several days to reach maximum saturation, and gradually fades in the user's absence. Given sufficient time, entire buildings can become infested, ready to disintegrate into swarms of teeth and razors.

Striker/Brute
Any force the user exerts can be made permanent, and compounds with additional force used. The user can slowly lift a car until it floats away, punch a wall again and again until it explodes backwards, or push a person and have them slide backwards until they're pinned to a wall. With a little time, he can render anything weightless, or crush anything between his palms. He can also, with relatively little effort, toss objects into orbit.

(continued again)

>>49177684
>Brute/Thinker
The user possesses slow regeneration that repairs, reinforces, and adapts to any damage BEFORE it happens, inevitably finishing just as it's caused. Examples include, growing gills before getting into a fight with a hydrokinetic, gaining thick blade-resistant skin on his throat before being ambushed and garroted, and developing extreme 3d vision in one eye before the other is gouged out. Not only do the adaptations keep the user alive and combat effective, they also warn him of the nature, timing, and location of incoming attacks, allowing him to prepare and counter anything throw at him hours or days in advance.

>>49177664
Should be Mover/Brute, if it isn't obvious.

>>49177471

Yes, Armsmaster kills him offscreen.

>>49177684
>He can also, with relatively little effort, toss objects into orbit.
Wouldn't he have to keep heading upwards (by, say, climbing up convenient stairs) to stay in contact with any significantly heavy object long enough for it to do more than slowly and inexorably drift upwards? I mean, even if he manages to go lift and not give in to the temptation to make it easier with his powers, he can still only apply so much force per second of contact.
Notably light objects would still be easy send orbital, though, just so long as you don't mind probably fucking up a satellite because Wormverse is a setting where the one in a million bad thing happens nine times out of ten.
[/autism]

>>49178185
To be fair, that entire month where terrible things kept happening in Brockton Bay was because multiple precogs had set events into motion.

Weaverdice is too narrative a system for me. It's not a roleplaying game because there's no gamist parts.

>>49178185
Anything he can throw just keeps on going forever. He could just nudge something and it would eventually circumnavigate the Earth. Granted, anything too massive would take so long he'd die of old age before it happened, but I was talking more about small, light objects. Don't forget he can also corner things against a wall and pound on them until they build up enough force to break through it to launch stuff.

>>49178458
>Don't forget he can also corner things against a wall and pound on them until they build up enough force to break through it to launch stuff.
Works as long as the object to be launched is made of sterner stuff than the wall it's up against. Which is not hard in Murrica, because drywall.

Then again, it's likely to get launched through before there's all that much force built up, because drywall. Seriously, that stuff breaks so easily you wouldn't believe it unless you've worked with it.

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Here's a shitty fanfic idea I might to get around to writing eventually:

After getting the two to the head at the end of the Golden Morning, Taylor's planeswalker spark ignites and she get's fixed up in Innistrad. Then powerless, massively traumatized and back to nominal sanity, she learns a small amount of magic, goes to seek direction, purpose and enlightenment on Tarkir, Ojutai specifically, and generally wanders around for a bit.

This all happens off screen, except for flashback interludes of the important bits.

The fic proper is her, a decade later, finally getting the guts to return whence she came and find who is left of her friends and family, knowing low-mid level blue white magic (mostly cantrips).


Yes/No?

>>49181416
Crossovers are invariably shit.

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>>49181505
I have found this to generally be true, however, I think there are ways of lessening the shittiness and garnering genuine awesome from them, foremost of which would be to ditch all gameplay mechanics in favor of translating the concepts and themes behind them to the story. I doubt I will include any major characters from MtG, just the setting and magic itself.

>>49181600
Polishing a turd... You know how it goes.

>>49181744
It goes pretty well, actually? Mythbusters did it with various kinds of shit, pretty shiny.

Alrighty then boys, I'm running my first game today. Team comp is a bit weird but we planned it so that its at least going to start more as each of us are capes that will run into each other a lot. It also lets us GM in a Troupe style which is something i wanted to try out.

Collin Rider (SPARTAN) - Tinker 6, Brute 4 - A Tinker with a focus in power armor and defensive systems.
Aaron Jaques (PRESENCE) - Stranger 8, Thinker 5 - Can become ethereal after a 10 second period, gains perfect clairvoyance in a 200ft rad sphere, can move 20mph through objects and stuff. He can't be seen or interacted with but neither can he do anything he can send and receive radio waves so he can communicate with a walkie talkie or some such thing.
Marcus Taylor (SHADOW PUPPET) - Thinker 8, Master 2 - Foresees problems, can influence outcomes by small mental tweaks. The precog part is more focused on things that would be problems to him.
Clade Geralds (ANIMUS) - Master 7, Shaker 4 - Can animate inanimate objects into a simulacrum a human or a human part, does not generate mass, must pull it from the object itself.

Animus and Shadow puppet are working together as part of a villain organization. Presence is a Ward, and Spartan is a Vigilante who is going after some gang bangers that caused his trigger.

Any thoughts?

>>49178390
There's a ton of rules though?

>>49182277

I think his issue is that the game isn't completed yet. For instance, armor and how weapons work have just been completely redesigned.

>>49182406
That's not what any of the words he said mean, though.

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>>49164745
>#4
The last thread was #4, this is the fifth one.

>>49182779
aha
ahahah
fuck
well at least we've got a direct link to the last one so it's easy to fix the mistake next time

>>49181778
Had to google Troupe style, seems like a good way to keep everyone engaged since the PCs won't cooperate much because of different affiliations.
Bretty cool anon.

>>49183186

we could just do every number twice. autistic thread counting gimmicks are fundamental to a healthy general.

>>49184688
Or
>/wdg/ Weaver Dice / Worm general 4.1
>/wdg/ Weaver Dice / Worm general interlude T: Shitposting

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Besides Weaver Dice and the obvious Mutants&Masterminds, what other systems are good for superhero settings like Worm?

>>49186491
GURPS
because GURPS is for everything
I have never played it

>>49186518
GURPS will forever be a meme system as long as people don't elaborate which expansions they need.

>>49181416

i would read a chapter or two for sure.

>>49181416

It's pretty shitty.

Are there any non-Taylor stories that feel true to the setting?

>>49186617
I have to reconsider writing it, as a MtG lore short story just got released with an eerily similar premise. I'll have to rethink my approach even if I do pursue that idea.

>>49186491
Well there is abberent from white/wolf onyx path. Has alot of the same elements, grand organizations of heroes with a darker side,various factions of villains,common power source for all the heroes. The system was kinda shit though, but 2e is in the works and looks to be much less shit.

>>49186729
Quite a few, because your suspension of disbelief isn't broken by poor characterization if the characters are all OCs or minor, less developed ones from canon.

Ones that heavily feature major canon characters are usually not that good.

>>49186751

The main problem with Aberrant was that it was written by a faggot with issues. He made all the gay characters superpowerful.

Also, the primary antagonist is 'Magneto, but absolutely correct'. In the climax of the first campaign, the PCs stand around and watch him fight the world's equivalent of Superman. Magneto wins effortlessly.

>>49186858
What all is he correct about? I mean he was right that project utopia had something more going on, but his response is still nonsensical.

>>49186898

I don't know, but he's basically right about everything in the setting, which is really dumb. Technically, the titular Aberrants are a lot more sympathetic. I love the fact that the Aberrants are literally led by a Chav Brit, who's somehow blundered his way into a deadly conspiracy.

>>49186491
Wild Talents is fantastic for it (easily better than M&M, as far as Worm is concerned), and while I'm not too familiar with HERO/Champions I've heard good things about it.

>>49186734
MtG introduced a superhero plane?

>>49186858
stupid metaplot was an issue that every old white wolf game suffered from.

>>49187417
No, the similarities are in the plot and the circumstances.
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/torch-defiance-2016-09-05
Honestly, it's not that big of a deal, and the similarities to what I had planned are not that many, but I'll still rethink bits of it.

>>49186858
Wasn't there an incident where the developer said "Aberrant" referred to Divis Mal specifically, not the PCs or aberrants in general?

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The PCs of your super power campaign have to go up against pic related, how do they fare?

>>49189598
I assume Spitfire is included too.

>>49189598
Gregor is neat as fuck.

>>49168328
He really was best boy

GAMES WHERE
nowhere because fuck me I guess, I'll never get to actually do things in wormverse without going full autist and writing fanfiction, or becoming a GM myself which I'm terrified of doing,

>>49192786
I feel you, anon. Roll20 would be usable for a Weaver Dice game,. yeah?

>>49192786
There's games on the IRC (irc.parahumans.net, #weaverdice), expect to idle for sixteen months before getting in one though.

>>49181778
Just ran the session, I kinda was the "leader" but I had whoever was not really in the encounter that much do the most Dm'ing panned out pretty well actually. Added two people to the game last minute and they worked out really well, a guy that can take over electronics and a guy that cannot be hit by powers, both of them joined the villan team and we fucked up the guys who triggered Spartan and got him loosely on our side when we fought the local Wards. Beat the shit out of em too, mainly because of surprise but we still did. The biggest issue to far is the villain team has really low kill power without Animus or Spartan.

>>49166371
>Leet centric story
>Uber get hurt really bad
>Brain damage so Amy can't help him
>Leet freaks out and takes the kid gloves off
>Retaliates while still keeping to his vidya theme

That's what I got so far.

>>49194555
I'd read it

>>49194620
I mean between shit like Ace Combat and MGS4 Leet has a lot of nasty shit he could unless, you know?

>>49194731
*unleash

Fucking typos

>>49194731
let's not forget Ratchet and Clank
seriously if there's a Tinker who can replicate tech from R&C the world might be FUCKED

>>49164745
HEY GUYS

are there any food based capes out there?

powers that pertain or heavily assist the making of food?

I could see Lung in a joke sketch flame broiling food in an establishment catering to dinner shows, dishes delivered by parians dolls etc...

>>49195326
Sushi Chef Oni Lee needs to be a thing.

>>49195326
Not that I can think of, it's possible for them to exist but it's not what powers were really built for.

The ones that I see helping the most would be side benefits from a Thinker power, Path to Perfect Sandwich, and some varieties of bio-tinker, like a corpse tinker.

Some Shakers would be entertaining, Vista would have everything in arms reach, and watching her flip food would be a sight to behold. Narwhal is a 50-foot sphere of butchery and slicey forcefields that she can use to approximate TK. Labyrinth would probably just make a banquet from Alice in Wonderland show up.

Imp, and other Strangers would make for hilarious waiters.

>>49195813
>Imp as a waiter
>"holy shit where'd my food come from"

>>49195586
>>49195813
>>49195843
...tales from the cape cafe...

>>49195843
It's even better than that. You wouldn't remember her taking your order in the first place.

From the perspective of a customer, they'd sit down, chatting among themselves, reading through the menus, not sure what they want when water glasses appear in front of them, and they take sips not questioning their presence.

Later they're planning on calling over a waitress since they haven't been helped yet, when they notice all of their menus are gone, another blink of the eye and the appetizers show up. Followed later by their meals, and a spilled glass of wine being cleaned up.

When the check comes nobody remembers writing in a 25% tip.

>>49196045
beautiful

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What would happen if trigger events happened in 40k?

>>49196155
everyone would be a cape
EVERYONE

>>49196155
There's a couple ways it could go. First, you have the standard pair of Entities playing asshole mad scientist with a single solar system and messing with them.

Or you want it to cover a much larger area, in which case you'd probably need multiple Entities working together to pull this shit off, and since you'd be spreading the powers over such a broad number of things they'd probably be less powerful and unique as a consequence.

>>49196906
>Emperor tells Scion to stop being so sad

This was a pretty neat read. Just exclaims why the beginning of Worm is not a chore to read.

http://prequelsredeemed.blogspot.com/2016/09/worm-end-is-beginning-is-end.html?m=1

>>49194731
>skyscraper revealed to be Excalibur
[Belka noises]

>>49197238
What the fuck is up with that page's layout.

>>49197199

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2oc7fa/respect_the_entities_worm/

the entity duo are not the same thing as the scion golden autist.

>Each signal is nuanced, shaped with subtle details and clues by the trillions upon trillions upon trillions of individual shards that make up the entity. Through these nuances, it conveys more information than an entire planet of sentient beings might in a hundred revolutions.


>When they were too far away to see one another, they communicated, and each message was enormous and violent in scope, expressed with the energy of a star going supernova.

they a very powerful and their arival would be a hugetastic game changer.

>>49194731
>Scinfaxi appears in the Bay

Could Chubster be the most underrated cape yet?

>>49201202
Meme cape/10
Though I'll admit that his whole "thing" of being a middle aged fat guy called Chubster did make me curious, someone who would do something like that seems like a cool person to hang out with.

And even if that Psycho Gecko guys write ups borderline on lolSoRandom, his epitaph for Chubster had me in stitches

>>49181778
Those are some high ratings.

I am unfamiliar with Roll20, how exactly do you find games on there on a system that they haven't registrated? I tried typing "Weaver Dice" in the tag bar too but nothing came out of that either.

>>49202209
You'd do better to look through the Looking For Group forums instead. The LFG function is very barebone.

>>49201436
>>49181778
Jesus, those thinkers are a bit powerlevel for a worm game - shadow puppet is practically plot device tier, and presence is just bullshit invulnerable
Oh, and Shaker 5+ is necessary for Animus, since 5 is the "assume cover useless" level, and well, cover becomes more minions.

>>49186491
>that picture
So it seems like that boy has explosives in each limb that he can trigger without (or only mildly) getting hurt.

Would someone whose body isn't affected by certain things, like explosions in this case, be a Brute or a Breaker?

>>49203468
Depends.
The power categories are prescriptive (they tell you how to fight them) not descriptive (they don't give a fuck about how the powers work)
If he was immune to all other explosions, all the time, that's more "brute" if it's a state he shifts into and out of, that's "breaker"
But someone who generates explosions around them self is probably a Shaker - unless they can project them quite a distance, then they're a blaster.

Though, Ash Beast is a Breaker, but he's a very special kind of living perpetual explosion.

Weaver was a mistake

>>49197858
>>49199554
>Kaiser minding his own business at a E88 valley
>A fucking fighter plane weaves through the buildings
>TOO BAD, BUDDY
>THIS TWISTED GAME NEEDS TO BE RESET
>Giant blonde bimbo gets her neck sliced by a laser
>Jesus Christ

>>49164745
Was Moord Nag black or one of those booers?

>>49205470
Nah dude she was black as shit, had dreads and everything.

>>49205470
She was an african warlord, I'm pretty sure they are all black.

Were all the Undersiders (besides Regent and Foil maybe) Brockton Bay natives? We know that Brian, Aisha, and Taylor all were born and raised there but what about Bitch, Tattletale and Parian?

>>49205986
Rachel is an out-of-towner (Maine I think?), Parian is from Basra, couldn't find anything about Tattletits.

>>49205986
>>49206074
bitch is from a middle america kind of place, unspecified and variable because of her fostered upbringing.

tattletits(stealing that name btw, it'll be good for bugging this girl I know whats to fuck her silly) is from the northern east coast and a reasonably wealthy white family.

>>49206074
Tattletale is from away, ran from her famoly due to issues

>>49206074
>>49206211
Ah yes Tattletits, the third best Undersider right below Skittles and Butch.

>>49206537
I dunno, Splinter, Porcelain and Princeling are cool too.

>>49206677
Who's the better Ward? Cocklocker or Apeshit?

>>49206770
Landscape, of course, with Scrapheap a close second.

>>49206770
XP Professional Edition is a cute but Shadow the Edgehog is the worst.

Is this actually a legitimate system, or is this some sort of FATE hack thing?

>>49207126
Legitimate, but unfinished. The main draw is the power generation system imho.

>>49207126
It's pretty legit but far from finished, generally people here here will tell you to use the bomb ass character creation part and then stat the finished character and play using another system like Mutants and Masterminds for the time being.

If you're brave you can try actually playing Weaver Dice but be prepared to home rule some unfinished things.

>>49169745
How is the best girl/boy in every universe's relationship not Taylor?

>>49207126
It's not a FATE hack at all, man. It's absurdly more lethal than FATE is; if you try to do the same sort of shit that you do in FATE in this, you're liable to wind up dead inside of a single session.

>>49207204
>>49207212
>>49207408
I'm not actually seeing where it says how powers actually WORK, though. Am I just blind, or what?

>>49207349

Because it's the alternate universe Taylors talking about it and they don't like Taylor much?

Who is Abbadon and what is it's deal?

>>49207749
Could you maybe elaborate what you mean? I mean if someones power for example is super strenght then just raise their strenght stat above 5 (with 5 being the peak of what a human could achieve without powers).
As with any Superpower focused system you have to always bullshit some rules together yourself for the more abstract powers but especially with how Worm usually has a somewhat balanced power level it shouldn't be too hard to set some extra rules based on the powers.

Or did you mean something else?

>>49194555
I'd only read it if stuff still kept blowing up on him. Dark Powerup doesn't do it for me.

>>49186780
This.

>>49189598
Not so good. They took on Chevalier and Myrddin and got away.

>>49201278
“Ben. He was Ben. As a superhero, he went by Chubster.”

“Chubster?”

“It means fat. A funny sort of fat. He was that sort of guy. To poke fun at himself. And he chose the name because he was frustrated all the good names were already taken.”

“Oh.”
(PRT Quest)

>>49207777

Those are some upsetting quads.

>>49208456
What I mean is that I'm not seeing what the actual power, well, DO. What's the effect of regeneration?

How do you shoot light beams?

Where is shit like Crawler statted?

How do you actually make something like a less-retarded Hookwolf?

>>49209289
>What's the effect of regeneration?
Every third round, reduce a Moderate Wound to a Lesser Wound, or remove a Lesser Wound outright.

>How do you shoot light beams?
Make Dex/2 attacks per round up to X distance which deal [Moderate Wound type].

>Where is shit like Crawler statted?
"This guy can only be beaten if the players hit him with overwhelming force. Otherwise, just throw Rends and Burns at them like crazy for his claws and acid spit if they're dumb enough to get in melee. Brawn, uhh, 9."

>How do you actually make something like a less-retarded Hookwolf?
"Parahuman turns into a giant pile of blades, dealing Moderate Cuts to anyone who attacks them unarmed, and attacking for Moderate Cuts in melee. Additionally, [insert some other stuff here, I can't be fucked at the moment, you get the idea]."

Weaver Dice doesn't use components-based balancing like Hero or M&M, it's more like Exalted where every power (or Charm) is a holistic piece.

Admittedly, it should probably have a sample set of powers, like how Exalted has eleventy bajillion Charms to use as a basis/balancing point for homebrew.

>>49171749
>She's not a particularly compelling character.

She's a ruthlessly driven teenage girl with nerves of steel who manages to convince herself that she's morally justified in ruling a post-apocalyptic cityscape. I'd call that pretty compelling.

>>49164745
Is there a smoother way of explaining character creation? There's the fair chance that I'm more than a little dense, but I'm having a hard time understanding what you do with the 2d4 and 1d47 you roll for perks/flaws. Is that allotted somewhere, or tell you exactly what you get?

I'm also failing to understand the nature of certain things in the detail generator sheet, like the LIST page. Perhaps I'm just blind, and there are massive swathes of text explaining these things, but I might as well raise my questions here. I'm just confused by the character creation for trigger capes in general.

>>49209507
Alright, and where is this shit actually listed? Because I've yet to find it in this clusterfuck of googledocs.

>>49209658
Not the guy you are responding to but I think the point is that you are just supposed to make up this stuff yourself. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that regeneration can be simulated by having wounds removed in regular intervals.

Though I agree with >>49209507 that there should be a sample set of powers to make it somewhat easier/more streamlined by giving some examples.

>>49209887
I mean, I know I can come up with stuff, but if you're making a system, and your system has abilities in it, it's a good idea to actually have said abilities in the system or at least some sort of laid-out guideline of "Hey man, this is how you actually make the abilities." type thing.

>>49209658
>>49210187
Those are just my rough estimates of appropriate powers.

There's not really a very good, centralized repository of example powers. There's a few bigger sheets with several capes, but they're either overly specific (e.g. all Tinkers), or there are some lower quality ones mixed in (OP, not PC appropriate, unclear mechanics, etc).

There's also a guide here, written by one of the regulars in the IRC, which covers a lot of dos/don'ts and guideposts regarding power gen: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L3aKXlCRzefWw7ukY2yHUGb1EKplfAklX1Kk_9u8Z90/edit

Again, it's not like Hero or M&M, with components you interconnect as you like: you homebrew each and every power.

>>49210187
The idea is that abilities are fairly unique.
Like, if you had to write all your own charms for Exalted
Except you only need 2 or 3, tops, not 100.

Check out the new player primer:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Py-zQBE94hm8Iu0Oqoy_p_svALXYkKVpTiq-i7PwCwE/edit
and the sample cannon capes list:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxYrt2d6b_LAaMPphcZEzwAruiSHQaiaBa3x2WMsGvA/edit
And, for good measure, the character sheet for Damsel of Distress:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y9EM6krS6MfQy04IJYNkIKRri5jMpHaOTAvvSegpmgI/edit#heading=h.915qif9e6c0p

>>49209577
So each person at the table writes down one or more trigger events (or you just use some of the pre-made triggers), these are then distributed amongst the players.
Going around each player now reveals their trigger event and the others brainstorm a superpower, the person in question has to be silent during this and is not allowed to have any impact on the power they get.
When the power is finished the player can say a couple of things about the type of person their character is going to be.

Now you roll 2d4 and see how many and what kind of perks/flaws you get. Now maybe I'm just making assumptions here but did you see that at the top of the list here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aHyZ7c7TIgt903mPinOakrgli2WZu5IRtiGYPCnCqDE/edit#gid=405464285) it says "Perk:Power" and "Perk:Flaw" etc.?
So if you rolled a 1 and a 4 meaning you get a Life Flaw and a Power Perk, now you roll 2d47 to see which ones you get.
So you could get a 33 for Life Flaw and now your character has a hard time getting respected, then you get a 51 for Power Perk and your get to add a mobility enhancing effect to your power.

Was this what you wanted clarifictations for?

>>49210277
What's the IRC? Is it worth joining?

>>49210788
>What's the IRC?
#weaverdice at irc.parahumans.net

>Is it worth joining?
Probably? The perks are: easier access to the giant fuckoff web of google docs (because people there know it); the possibility of joining a game (certain over a long enough timespan, but often glacial/irregular); the possibility of getting in a one-shot; and Wildbow is there and it serves as the primary playtest/feedback group for Weaver Dice as a game system.

>>49210865
Huh. I don't see it on my list.

>>49211069
/server irc.parahumans.net
/join #weaverdice


Also, here's a list of example capes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxYrt2d6b_LAaMPphcZEzwAruiSHQaiaBa3x2WMsGvA/edit?usp=drive_web

>>49207349
Because I'm pretty sure there's no Taylor/Taylor fics out there.

>>49212299
Not yet.

>>49210788
Doesn't cost anything, no need to even sign up.

>>49212618
I more mean is it worth joining in the sense of "Is it a flaming shitpile like the Pathfinder General IRC is?"

>>49212676
it's a long slog to get into a game, but when the creator frequents it it must have SOME measure of quality, and it does
don't make an ass of yourself by forgetting real life exists and having to leave a game in front of everyone like I did, it's why I avoid that place like the plague now.

>>49212800
Just change your name and rejoin? Or go apologize?

>>49212800
Hey, we forgive you. Probably.

>>49212676
I have no idea what the Pathfinder General is like. It's not horrible.

>>49213750
I think I was named Emrys, might have been ElodinA though

>>49213750
Do you have a guy who's REALLY obsessed with anime and who shoves it into everything that's possible to shove it in, regardless of how it fits? Does he post messages that take 6+ paragraphs, filled with excessively detailed wordings that don't actually make his point any better, clearer, or help it at all? Does he ignore all feedback by people that might help him be less obnoxious, and in fact go out of his way to start problems, and then hide behind his autism?

Do you have the a different, but similar, guy who's REALLY obsessed with builds and how powerful they are, and the ranking system for builds, who shits up every conversation he joins?

Do the people there jack off over little girls, shit up the threads and chat with anime, and generally ruin everything?

This isn't even half of what /pfg/ is. It makes /scg/ from /vg/ look like the best thing on the site.

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>>49213765
Don't worry about it, nobody remembers you.

>>49174317
That dude smokes pot like a damn chimney all told

>>49213765
Yeah, what >>49214023 said. I idle there 24/7 and I don't remember who you are.

>>49213988
>Do you have a guy who's REALLY obsessed with anime and who shoves it into everything that's possible to shove it in, regardless of how it fits?
Nope. He's in #parahumans.

>Does he post messages that take 6+ paragraphs, filled with excessively detailed wordings that don't actually make his point any better, clearer, or help it at all? Does he ignore all feedback by people that might help him be less obnoxious, and in fact go out of his way to start problems, and then hide behind his autism?
Holy shit. No.

>>49214074
>>49208133

Here you go. Feast your eyes on just how bad your general could be be.

>>49186491
I'm going to be running a game in a month or so using the Mistborn TRPG

will report back

So, I've gotten myself roped into running a Worm-style Mutants and Masterminds game. And I need ideas, ideas for capes. And badass normals. But mostly capes.

>>49214595
Classification: Brute 12/Mover 10
Name: Saiatama
Boom, you now have someone to prevent TPKs if the dice seriously fuck your party over.

>>49214595
Run with that Dragonslayer idea from canon. A (relatively) normal non-cape person running around doing capeshit thanks to support from a Tinker who specializes in power armor or something

>>49215674
Well, I already had an idea for a modular weapons Tinker, with shit like multiple output frequency laser/plasma weapons, modular grenades(think protean grenades from Borderlands) and mine frames that you can put a grenade in to have a trap version of it, something like Mega Man X's virtual weapon emulator system(program new weapon type, upload to system; you can switch to it, and it has its own ammo counter), that sort of stuff.

Having him be a meek non-combatant with a badass normal, or a low-end cape with an equipment dependent power, like enhanced aim or amplification, absolutely works wonders.

>>49214595
what do you need the capes for? Heroes? Villains? NPCs? PCs?

>>49215844
Heroes, Villains, and Rogues, though the lines are going to be heavily blurred. I'm taking a route similar to XCOM 2, where humanity lost a war to aliens, and the aliens are undertaking extreme propagandist measures to convince what's left of humanity that they were trying to uplift them, were attacked first, and simply retaliated to that.

The powers are coming from what are essentially ethereals which, in XCOM, are psionic energy beings that require a host, not just to live long-term, but also for reproductive purposes. They're inserting bits of their psionic potential into humans that experience high-enough magnitude emotional spikes, to do a bit of, "terraforming," of the humans' minds so they'll make better host bodies when they decide to take over.

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>>49214595
Blindside
mover 2
thinker 7
breaker 2
trump 3

granted a raw boost of martial skill and the ability to see weaknesses in opponents and or structures. these are usually thinker powers, the mover and breaker ratings are really extensions of these. the mover because the skills increase the efficiency of movement through a space, and the breaker because he can perceive weaknesses in anything given observation time and knows where and how to strike. upper limit described in the source material as "at peak capability with suitable observation this hero may deliver a punch to break a battleship"

the trump rating is a resistance to mental influence or reading.

these powers were rolled randomly for the quest Capes of Rain City

pictured is some drawfaggin I had done...

>other capes to include
Blowout, who is a breaker-blaster capable of manipulating soundwaves(other powers unknown) he runs underground raves and is a villian only because they are technically illegal gatherings

RedLine the vehicle-tinker builds the slickest rides out there, has a penchant for watching 7 different anime at once while she works and her tech looks like something out of same, neon lights, flanges, edge-work, and on and on...but you will lose any hot-rod race you'd think to run against her.

Belts a breaker of similar power type to parian, she controls strips of material as though they were snakes or claws or prehensile iron beams, her costume is made of tough leather-like belts.

Meatgrinder a Brute Mover. he charges his targets, is prone to rage and looks roided out, like, just on the human side of being a case-53

>>49216069
I've read Capes of Rain City, and I wouldn't want to step on the toes of its author by swiping its main characters. But, I could see taking some inspiration from them.

Someone similar to Blindside for the badass normal/low-end cape in >>49215791, etc.

>>49216221
Watchman. Thinker 5-ish, total awareness of objects within 20 feet due to seeing from thousands of perspectives inside the sphere. Basically third-person view from every angle simultaneously.

>>49174283

Is Vigilant the guy who kept calling his attacks during the fight, in order for future merchandising?

He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a rocket launcher.

>>49216069
>Mover 2
That's pretty generous for someone who's literally no more mobile than any adult male of his fitness level. I guess you could argue a functional Move 0 due to his combat trance's aid in navigation - but he doesn't merit even a "1", he probably can't out sprint most trained, athletic soldiers, fat mall cops, sure.
>thinker 7
my ass
Thinker 5, tops - Blindside does not requie a full, trained team of capes with squads of PRT in backup to handle. He'd be hard pressed to deal with a trained squad equiped with flashbangs and foam.
>Breaker anything
Hahaha. Does not "Toggle state" does not change interaction with natural laws of physics.
>Trump anything
I wonder if this power will ever actually come up.

Also, he'd probably only be a Trump - 1, the PRT doesn't have access to a whole lotta mind-control stuff, so it'd be a curious footnote appended to his file, not a big number since it does him literally zero good against normals.

Based on what he's actually demonstrated to the PRT, he's probably Thinker 3/Striker 3 currently - if he ever is actually able to split a battleship, he'd go up to Striker 5+, just like Faultline, a striker cape who can... split battleships, and if they knew the full extent of his powers (peek at his character sheet, so to speak) he still wouldn't be higher than Tinker5/Striker5/Trump1

Also, someone tweet JimMac and see if he's alive, he said he'd have started up again by now.

>>49216364
>Also, someone tweet JimMac and see if he's alive,
I tried a week ago, no reply.

>>49216364
gerrr THINKER 5. fuck my shitty typing hands.

>>49216394
Welp, it's probably dead forever then.
Maybe someone else will start one up.

>>49216304

Basically yes, he walked away with cracked ribs. The villain was deliberately holding back.

>>49214595
Vajra. Can generate spikes of crystal which can have an electric charge from his hands.

>>49214595
Slinky- Breaker/Mover. Capable of stepping, lunging, or flailing his body across gaps of terrain to tangle foes in his contorting form. Hates his given name the public gave him.

>>49217259
Fuck, I was just spitballing again, but now it sounds rad. I think I wanna play this.

>>49216282
>Byakugan confirmed
This is good, and easy to do, to boot. Lots of points to spare to extrapolate secondary powers with.

>>49217127
So, they make the crystal spikes that the Shock Jockey Vigor creates? Neat. Also pretty easy to do.

>>49217259
>>49217280
Oh, this is nice. Preference on hero or villain?


Here's what I have so far:
>Switcher: Modular weapons tinker
>Name Pending: Knowledge thief
>Name Pending: Body-adaptive precog
>Kelvin: Ice-based accelerator
>Docwagon: Medical Tinker
>Vajra: Generates electrically charged crystals
>Slinky: Highly mobile battlefield controller

>>49217365
Slinky here. Whatever side you want him to be, man. Who's on who's side so far? Need more capes with different classifications to make things interesting?

>>49217434
No one's been specifically committed to any particular side yet, with the exception of, maybe, Kelvin being in the Wards equivalent in-setting.

>>49217448
We'll Tinkers would love the PRT for their free money for tinkering unless they're a cunning escape artist robbing each bank nearby.

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What exactly does the Protectorate do with people whose power is taking over bodies?
Like if Regent wasn't a sociopath and wanted to do good they surely wouldn't be ok with him taking over villains, there surely must be against their code of ethics right?

>>49219138
They send them to Las Vegas or various other black ops teams.

>>49214595
See the posts I dumped up here:
>>49177664
>>49177684
>>49177711

You should also make sure you have personalities, not just powers. Canon is all about how synergy is the greatest strength. Jack Slash, Tattletale, and Skitter all have AWFUL powers in the wrong hands, only through their particular personalities and skills do they become dangerous. Whereas Leet and Parian have top-tier powers that are almost neutralized by their personalities, Leet to the point where he'd almost be better off WITHOUT powers.

>>49166371
Taylor instead triggers with a Trump power (shadow stalker was the person who directly shoved her in the locker) that lets her copy he power of any ONE Parahuman within 10 meters.

>>49220083
Alt-powers are super overdone.

>>49174454
Boy Taylor would never have had the same amount of bullying, or Emma would have gotten the guys of the school to try something.
They would promptly be punched in the face because Taylor takes after his dad.

>>49166371
Mistborn crossover. Scion got some investiture caught under his fingernail as the entities were booted off of Scadrial, and is now using it in a shard. But it's still a piece of preservation.

>>49220110
Well I dunno. Was going to consider a self-insert fanfiction but there's already one thats better than anything I'll write and fairly long (about 486,000 words) and completed. Linking.
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10377231/1/Security

Martyr.
Rapid healing. All damage taken gets mirrored on the person that instigated the attack (Physical only).

Stat me.

>>49220148
Just create original stories in the same setting.

>>49220151
I'd change it a little. Instead of rapid healing its just faster healing increased exponentially by how many people are within a certain short range (like 5m-10m) of you. 0 is 2x normal human healing, 1 is 4x faster, 5 is 64x faster, 15 is 65,536x faster (a day of healing per second), 25 for a busy mall is 67,108,864x faster (111 weeks of human healing per second). Or some other qualifier for boosted healing capacity. I'd keep the mirrored damage part.

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Post famous scenes in cinema where trigger events occurred.

Tinker/Thinker powerset revolving around the idea of losing a close one when you least think about it, unintentionally involving them in your case.

Maybe he has his powers revolve around surveillance bots everywhere or some kind of super suit that prioritizes everything he can't observe where he isn't at.

>>49210288
>Damsel of Distress's backstory
Oh wow I didn't expect her to be such a sad character, based on her name alone I'd have never though of taking her serious.
Didn't she in canon only appear for one scene as a Slaughterhouse member before getting killed off?

Maybe not the most dramatic trigger event, but one that would probably lead towards a hero, and those are in short supply in Worm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g4LxLHoIag

>>49219138
No one gets a power they aren't willing to use.
Anyone who triggers with the ability to control/manipulate humans is the type of person willing to do so.

>>49220833
Correct.
She's a favorite of Wildbow though, prior to Worm being a thing, he wrote a lot of short stories as world-building exercise, I'm pretty sure she featured in a few.

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>>49220972
Oskar Schindler triggers with the powers of pic related, except it is not just a joke.

Every time he observers a process his powers feed him information on how the process could be done better in every regard if repeated (smoother, quicker, less demanding, more streamlined etc). This can be done multiple times but with diminishing returns.

Combat applications are interesting, Schindler accompanies heroes who are about to confront long standing and troublesome villains and with each fight he witnesses he gets a better grasp on what exactly you have to do to defeat them.

Downside for the combat application is that the fighting scenario always has to be similar to get the most out of his power. If one of the fights takes place on a different terrain than usual, or the enemy has a different number of underlings with them, or the heroes have a slightly different line up, his power becomes less efficient, because of this all attacks have to be carefully planned beforehand and forced during the right time and place.

I feel like this power is especially fitting because Schindler was a successful factory owner before which implies that he has experience with improving the labour process of his product for more profit.

>>49220972
>"I could have got more, and I didn't"
The only time I ever cried during a movie.
Possible categories:
>Breaker: abstract stressor
The realization that he could have done more to save those people, and the huge amount of regret and perhaps self-loathing that came from that.
>Thinker: emotional or mental strain, reaching a crisis point in short time
While the circumstances he was involved in were years in the making, the realizations he came to above all came crashing down on him in one moment towards the end

One possible power would be a precog ability that let's him see the indirect consequences of any action he contemplates, but only its negative consequences. I'm having a bit a trouble coming up with a possible Breaker power, however. Those usually come appended to another classification, don't they?

>>49220148

Frankly, most fics should stay as far away from the protagonist as possible. It just feels wanky.

Someone above suggested a guy battling the Taylor-less Undersiders and the Red Hands during the timeskip. That's a good idea, because all of this stuff can just slot right into canon.

It's the filler arc defined.

>>49221551

Don't forget Weaver Dice Lausanne, which may as well be canonical. The only commonality is that everyone is already doomed, as they've all heard the Simurgh's song. Whatever happens next, it's all setup for the eventual earth-shaking disaster.

>>49220148

Of course it had to be a self-insert, it couldn't just be some guy.

>>49221025
Nah, he fell in love with her at Bonesaw's tea party.

>>49221009
Not true. Valkyrie comments that there are rare people that don't use their powers.

>>49221771

They're usually very rare, because the shards push you towards conflict. They want you to get into fights. It's actually a Power Flaw.

>>49221836
That's why they're rare.

Now, that I'm thinking, I can use this general for power generation.

Huzzah!

>>49196155
The Entities would get rawcucked by the C'Tan

>>49208305
It's another Entity that murdered Zion's Waifu, one of the shards he used to do so wound up in Contessa

>>49209507
There is a sample power stat list

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You know, I've been thinking and I'd like to know your opinion. I wanna run a game for my friends but I absolutely hate how hard to set up most capeshit rpgs are.

But wouldn't MASKS be perfect for running a Worm game? At least one centered in the members of the Wards or teenaged heroes in general; it relies a lot more on narrative stuff and on emotions / the way you perceive yourself is determined by the way others treat you; which are recurring element's in Worm from Taylor's point of view.

My only issue would be the power creation (but I could use the idea I saw for Weaver Dice, with players deciding a trigger and the other players discussing the powers they'd get from that) and the high-risk / high-mortality rates in the Wormverse.

>>49222425
>There is a sample power stat list
Link?

>>49222425
>>49222470
Fucking hell why are all the google docs for Weaver Dice scattered around so much?
Is there a masterlist or something of all existing docs?

>>49222409
Ugh, fanon.

>>49219429
I used those for Kelvin and the unnamed body-adaptive precog listed in >>49217365, and the Tinker from your posts that's capable of manifesting tools and tech out of thin-air for one that's not listed, naming him Prefab.

As far as personalities go, for the ones I've mentioned so far:
>Switcher is meek and unassuming; he can't even use his own tech. He's a bit afraid of it, in fact, forcing himself into a purely support role akin to Mr. Wizard from the Punisher comics, which is just fine by him.

>The Knowledge Thief is driven, but lacking in common sense. She wants to cure cancer, because someone she cares about is slowly dying of it. She doesn't realize it, but she's slowly making herself go insane.

>The Body-adaptive Precog is a bit bipolar. She waffles back and forth between thinking she's invincible and being absolutely terrified of the very concept of pain, usually caused by something similar to what caused her trigger.

>Kelvin is naive and childish, reckless even, but does very little inside the box thinking, making him versatile in combat, but also often causing him to injure himself in the process.

>Docwagon legitimately wants to help people, but can't not see the good in people, to the extent that he's a bit of a sucker.

>Vajra is cold and calculating, more often using his powers as traps. He's a perfectionist, but has a bit of a big head, owing to being touted as a prodigy when he was young; he's also not immune to his own powers, so when something doesn't go right, and he charges in, he might incorrectly assume that one of his traps had been set off already and run right into it.

>Slinky dislikes the public for giving him his name, and tends to be curt during PR gigs, especially when the press starts making jokes about his name and powers. He tends to be a joke magnet and has, more than once, just up and left a press conference in a huff. He has also quit and rejoined the force more than once for similar reasons.

>>49222941
And last, but not least:
>Prefab has a laser-focused level of concentration, but an extreme one-track mind, and hates when plans change and she has to work around new needs and restrictions. She can often be caught muttering something along the lines of, "if all these damn people would just stop getting in the way of my work, I'd have fixed the world by now." It's hard to tell if she's just whining or if she actually believes it.

>>49194555
I'm throwing money at the screen, and nothing is happening.
In all seriousness though, this sounds like a fantastic idea.

I'm now envisioning L33T building stuff out of Armoured Core, or going Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander on the city

>>49223293
Don't you think that if that were within his capabilities he would have already done that?

>>49223345
It is in his capabilities though. He can build ANYTHING, but he plays it so safe his shard ain't having that shit.

From reading Worm, I've got the feeling that for somebody triggering with powers, there are two bad things that need to happen. One that sets up a difficult living environment, and then the actual trigger.

Taylor: Her mother dies, her father goes depressive, and then the whole bullying thing. Trigger: the locker.

Clockblocker: His father slowly dying from cancer, and then he only triggers from the actual operation that may or may not save his life.

Grue: Even though he probably lied about his trigger, his environment was pretty fucking shit what with his slutty druggy mother and his father who's incapable of being a father.

Tattletale: First her brother dies, and it's only after that that she triggers, after wondering how she had missed the signs.

What do you think of that ground rule for trigger events? Two events, the first leading to a shittier life and the trigger.

>>49223409
Yeah it seems like having a shitty life leading up to the actual trigger is a recurring theme. But I don't think that it is 100% required, only that it is common.

Surely if the trigger event is bad enough it would be also possible to get powers, even with an ok life beforehand.

>>49223409
it just means that character generation is done with longer backstories.

>>49223384
No, he can build anything... unless it's close to something else he's built. He's out of good options.

>>49223384
>>49223565
He can't build "anything," that's shorthand. His power is extremely broad and versatile and it's not particularly limited in any direction but he can't literally build anything. Particularly, I would assume that he can't build factories, since that would neatly avoid his power's issues, which his power doesn't want.

>>49223409
It's just that triggers have to be EXTREME. A simple 1-level bad situation isn't good enough. Triggers are the worse day of the worse week of the worst month of the worst year of your life. So take a bad situation, and then layer more and more bad ontop of it until it's absurd, until the person going through it would normally go insane and never recover from the trauma.

Example:
>you lose your job for something outside of your control
>can't feed your family or pay the rent
>have to take out a loan from a loanshark
>you can't pay fast enough and he starts getting more and more violent
>he shows up at your house and starts beating up your wife
>you get into a fight and he shoots your wife, you grab the gun and shoot him back
>the police/EMT arrive and cart you off jail and the loanshark and your wife to the hospital
>you wife is DOA, the loanshark is seriously wounded but survives
>he has lots of money and hires a good lawyer, you can't afford anything
>the court blames you for your wife's death and the attack on the loanshark, saying you shot him when he tried to protect your wife from you
>your children go into foster-care, told that you killed their mother
>while in prison the loanshark visits you and reveals that the only reason he survived is that your wife was an organ donor and they used her organs to save him

What about the plain old Brutes?

>>49223345
Waaaay to high profile. However, if Uber were dead or crippled, revenge would be one hell of a motivator to up the stakes.

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>>49223719
Get the shit beaten out of you.

>locked in a cage match for the amusement af a somalian drug lord.
>your family will get executed if you lose.
You win a few matches and end up fighting the biggest most burly dudes in the game.
>you fight tooth and nail but you still eat pavement all the same.
>just as you start to fade you see your family get executed.
>trigger.

>>49223976
>Shatterbird is naked
>Covered in glass
There are children present, Birdy...

>>49223384
He can't build *anything*
He's locked out of plenty of stuff, even before he builds a copy of it. There's a lot of WoG about this (he got annoyed at all the Fanfic that uses l33t as a deus ex machina I guess?)

>>49223409
It sure would happen more often for people in shitty situations, which is acknowledged and addressed in cannon - but it's not necessary.

I'd say a better rule is you either need to have a shitty life situation (that your new problem can never solve) OR the one bad day is so bad that it encumbers you with a bad life situation (that your new powers can't solve)

So, like, take Emma in the Alley, is it bad enough for a trigger? Maybe. What if she lost her father? Or a limb or two? Or disfiguring scarring? Or Brain Damage? Or all of the above? Then totally.

>>49224065
>So, like, take Emma in the Alley, is it bad enough for a trigger? Maybe. What if she lost her father? Or a limb or two? Or disfiguring scarring? Or Brain Damage? Or all of the above? Then totally.
Are you reading my mind, Anon?

Because that's what lead me to this particular idea.

>>49224065
Emma would also be likely to trigger if Shadow Stalker walked away if Emma saw her.

>>49224095
Well we don't know if she even had the potential to trigger

>>49224119
Sure, but this is hypothetical.

In general:
The irony is important to powers
Look at, say, Grue. He triggers out of a desire to protect his little sister from... lets call it "unwanted attention" - an interesting twist on the Stranger class of triggers, but, see, the power it gives him can "cover" her in a very literal sense, but it's ultimately worthless. First because his sister is a histrionic, and secondly because it renders her (more or less) unable to act (it's pretty... smothering yuk yuk yuk) It's a nice helicopter-mom type of irony.
Then, when she triggers, it becomes even more useless, but that's beside the point.
Other example: Clockblocker - sure it's a striker power, but the function of it is -painfully- ironic. His father is dying, his power lets him stop that - but he never knows for how long, the timing is always uncertain (just like his father's death) Plus, while his power gives him more "time" with his father, it's not meaningful time, he can't interact with him at at all. Probably one of the most beautifully ironic powers in the setting.

>>49223731
What I'm saying is that he literally can't. He is't even able to make bombs anymore, he has to make holograms of bombs.

>>49224434
I'd argue just about everything he makes is a bomb by the start of cannon.

I am currently leading 3 people through reading Worm...

does anyone else enjoy such things?

>>49224512
Mono, I've read too many posts by you to see you "leading" anyone and not think leashes/chains are involved.

>>49224529
only in one case

I do not practice on-consensual.
and I am too straight to lead my male friends in that way regardless

>>49224567
... So i wasn't totally wrong.

>>49224588
you were at best 1/3 correct, and I don't have her in any manner of physical chains or shackles....

If I were running a game or quest in the Wormverse, should I do it in the city/state I'm more familiar with or should I run it in an extravagant state similar to New York? I know there's a team there, just asking.

Have any of you guys been to Alabama?

>>49224529
>>49224567
>>49224588
>>49224614
Could you please not?

>>49224678
Whatever you are more comfortable with. A completely fictional city also may work.

>>49222465
Pls respond. ;_;

>>49224691
>Could you please not?
what?

I wanted to talk about the fun of following someone else along as they read worm for the first time.

Dingus there was the one who realmed at me, I was obliged to realm back at him as is my custom.

so to restate my question.
HAS ANYONE ELSE HERE INTRODUCED WORM TO A FRIEND AND THE DERIVED JOY FROM DISCUSSING THE STORY WITH THEM AS THE MAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH IT?

>>49207349

Why would she be? Taylor would be a cool ally to have as a cape, I suppose, but she has basically 0 redeeming qualities as relationship material.

>>49223636
Not always so.

Some triggers aren't from THAT level of excessive stress, trauma as simple as a bad enough pileup on the freeway or a failed suicide attempt can do it

>>49224809
>Why would she be? Taylor would be a cool ally to have as a cape, I suppose, but she has basically 0 redeeming qualities as relationship material.
She's... uh... very loyal, as long as she can't rationalize her way into leaving you to join the PRT. Or maybe you like tall girls.

>>49216069
Jim Mac is such a g I miss him

>>49224678
never been to Alabama, is it anything like Kansas?

that said, you'll want a relatively high population area, or to move to one once the early phases of the game are done...more things happen in cities generally speaking. medium cities have enough going on and enough open space around them to allow for both lots of things to happen, and lots of places to hide.

>>49224841
>Or maybe you like tall girls.
a line from the story about small targets comes to mind

but would totally sit for a chill evening with taylor

>>49224849
we all do, but there's nothing for it if he's dead.

>>49207349
Because the actual best girl is Rachel?
Also I vaguely remember Rachel cuddeling and sleeping with a girl (as in next to each other) that was working for her, was she a lesbian? It was never mentioned again.

>>49224984
She slept with either Barker or Biter, and praised them for not making it anything it shouldn't have been.

>>49225008
biter.
she never liked barker.
that epilogue made me sad

>>49224984
that girl was gay for rachel but otherwise straight...singular same-sex attraction and whatnot

>>49224984
WagTheDog was just a big fan of the Undersiders and Rachel in particular, and probably had a fucked up home life as well.

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>>49224926
No clue, never been to Kansas.

But if pic related is any indication on cities, it should be fine. I'm 20-30 minutes out from Birmingham so I try to be there often. There's places you want to sight-see in the day and should avoid at night. Then there's obvious shit in the day you should never go to.

The city has UAB, regarded as one of the best hospitals in the world I believe, local clubs and restaurants for uni students and tourists, and everything around this are churches on almost every street and suburb/ghettos being pushed out by the city.

>>49224830
It's all about perspective. Horrible traumatic things might not affect someone, whereas very simple things will set them off. For instance, the Buddha couldn't be triggered by demons sawing him in half with rusty spoons, and a teenage girl could be triggered by a zit that leaves a scar. It's about how you emotionally react to what happens.

Which is why capes are all so volatile, calm and steady people don't trigger unless some truly insane shit goes down, and that's way less likely than some histrionic asian kid deciding his life is over because he got an A- on his midterm.

>>49224095
>>49224119
If Shadow Stalker had been a little slower and that asian girl actually stabbed her in the eye that would be the perfect moment. I'm seeing Brute, Blaster, and Mover possibilities, maybe Breaker or Stranger too. Some possibilities:
>space ripper stingy eyes
>teleportation that disrupts matter between the endpoints
>super adrenaline
>suicide field that reflects people's intentions back on themselves(i.e. thinking you stabbed someone else while you're stabbing yourself)

>>49225120
>that's way less likely than some histrionic asian kid deciding his life is over because he got an A- on his midterm.
I'm pretty sure Bakuda's trigger involved a bit more than that.

>>49225146
I wasn't talking about Bakuda, I think the general assumption was someone stealing her work and passing it off as their own.

>>49224841

loyal? She joined the Undersiders with intention to betray them, betrayed the heros who she was theoretically undercover for by comitting herself to villainy, led her team into a betrayal of their employer, betrayed the Undersiders by defecting, betrayed PRT by undermining it at every turn and bouncing out as soon as her probation was up, and betrayed humanity by violating the last truce in the most dramatic way imaginable.

Betrayal -defines- Taylor. It's no wonder she and Emma got along so well.

>>49225146
it probably involved some elements of:
1.) Loosing a direct competition (her desire to be BEST)
and
2.) Plagiarism (her ability to "copy" other capes powers into her bombs)

>>49225209

feels a little on the nose.

>>49225203
In order: then she didn't; theoretically; employer betrayed her first; given; that's not what happened; that's also not what happened; you're stupid.

>>49225106
whats that a count-down of? danger cities?

>everything around this are churches on almost every street
abandoned churches?
they make GREAT hiding spots, and lots tend to be sturdily built, great for someone to make a use of...forting up an old church, even an abandoned community chapel tends to be a simple endeavor. before I was big into /d/ I was HUGE into the building of bases, I never walk into a building now without thinking of ways to fortify it, churches are FUN.

you could have your team knock over several drug dens for cash to buy basic supplies to safe-house several churches...

a reasonably high crime rate makes EVERYTHING MORE FUN in a game like this.

but also more dangerous, because in the Worm-verse a gunshot will likely kill a person.

Man I wish Bakuda got more useage in fanfics, she's seriously powerful as fuck. In the tiny amount of time she was operating she casually surpassed most tinkers in the setting and was creating stuff that gave pause to endbringers. She learned brain surgery by winging it, copied and modified powers after barely observing them, reverse-engineered and subverted Dragontech while handcuffed and drugged within minutes, and build a goddamn bomb out of bedsprings and broken TV parts that blew a hole in the birdcage and almost killed Lung in like 5 minutes!

Then you take that INSANE FUCKERY and add someone who can create infinite instant copies of everything he's holding and teleport. Lung is chumpchange compared to Bakuda powerwise, yet he gets all the attention and she gets nothing.

>>49166371
It would be interesting to switch a few of the classifications around.

Like, for example, Path to Victory manifests as a tinker power instead of a thinker, allowing Contessa to build anything perfectly suited for any specific purpose. (Fanon Batman, effectively)
The ramifications would be that you could actively involve Contessa without her being a massive mindscrew.

Or imagine Armsmaster being an efficiency thinker instead of tinker. He can see the most efficient path for any single action - Parkour paths, force application/leverage in melee combat, etc.

If you reshuffled key characters in this fashion, you could freshen the story up quite a bit.
Bonus points for doing an SI story where halfway through the SI is confronted with the reality that no, your canon knowledge means fuck-all when Foil is now a Mover and Tattletale's thinker power actually does work on you and makes her draw wrong conclusions, because, you know, she kinda lacks the clues to get a proper conclusion about you even with her power. Which ends up fucking everything for you over.

I just want to see a self-insert story crash and burn and see them get cancer from Panacea because they pissed her off or something.

>>49225254
>she didn't; theoretically;
You can't just use the two betrayals here to cancel each other out like that.
>employer betrayed her first;
Based on information from the future obtained via precog. Taylor was the driving force of events.
>given;
k
that's not what happened; that's also not what happened;
Something being for the best isn't the same as it not happening.

>She learned brain surgery by winging it
This got me thinking, all Tinkers can do shit like that right? Part of becoming a Tinker is getting super smart all around and only becoming godlike in their specialization (plus occasionally getting hit by inspiration for alien technology) or am I wrong?

>>49224791
I'm currently reading it, up to Colony 15.2 at present, but I've got nobody to talk about it with and was told to leave the IRC.

>>49225349
You're wrong. One of the Tinkers in canon (a Brockton Bay Ward, iirc) has dyscalculia.

>>49225356
I (used to) know that feel, be wary of spoilers and have fun reading anon.

>>49174301
What the fuck kind of question is this?

Either he randomly had this idea of shards that collect information via human creativity by lending humans power and then made up a reason for them to exist.
Or he took the Zerg to their logical extreme. The Worms sound a lot like the original Zerg in their backstory.
Or he tried to do a superhero setting and then slowly formulated a more and more elaborate explanation while writing the story.

He generally has a dehumanizing and grimdark tone going on, so I'd assume that the idea of having some kind of inhuman power granting device in the background was always his intention.

On the matter of inhuman power granting device, I wonder if a fun Crysis crossover could be done.
After all, Crysis has the same basic idea of "humans use completely inhuman alien shit to fight the aliens that made this shit in the first place". It even has the same "the aliens aren't really creative and more like very clever roombas" aspect going on, as well as all of that body horror and "the mind isn't sacred" stuff.

>>49225203
>>49225254
>>49225334
Every one is up to their own interpretation. And everyone else is up to find that interpretation fucking stupid.

>>49225372
That's also enhanched by his power, which is gear with variable forms of function. Like his electroball pistol. His power kept stopping him midway through projects since it had already done what it wanted him to do.

>>49225372
That was Kid Win yes, but how did she manage to do the brain surgery then? Was she just that smart herself? Or does it maybe just depend on the Tinker?

If I think about it I don't remember if it was ever mentioned what exactly she was studying in college, it might as well could have been medicine and she was asian enough to pick it up in her own time.

>>49225349
Tinkers usually have superhuman manual dexterity, working memory, and attention to detail. Like "carve the ten commandments on the head of a pin" dexterity, know the position of every gear, bearing, screw and wire in a factory" memory, and "read a 747 blueprint once and then copy it perfectly" detail. But it might be hard or impossible for some of them depending on the nature of their powers. For instance, Leet would be great at it the first few times and then start accidentally lobotomizing people, and Kid Win would be perfect for the first few minutes and then forget what he was doing and freak out.

So lots of Tinkers could read a book on brain surgery, watch a few videos, and then perfectly emulate master surgeons. Non-bio tinkers would be fucked if something unexpected happened, because their powers wouldn't let them improvise on the spot or intuitively understand biology, and certain specialties would have a lot of problems, but they'd be almost incapable of making mistakes otherwise.

>>49225273
The countdown is for the top 100 dangerous cities in America, with Birmingham, AL at the 12 spot.

And, to most of my knowledge, all of these churches are doing well. All occupied every Sunday/Wednesday/Saturday with services hosting anyone from the city or the hood. Most people don't want to stick up a church due to a guilty conscience. But crime is very prevalent. I think that if you're near a church you're pretty much safe, unless the assailant doesn't care.

>>49225468
She's smart, and probably her power was helping her along since the "brain surgery" she was performing was "stick bombs in people's skulls."

>>49225349


As a standarf Tinker package you get all sorts of tech, a much larger amount of tech around your specialty, a directly power backed intuitive sense for how to build and operate that tech, and superhumanly fine motor control.

I wouldn't say that any of that I'd the same thing as being 'smart' though.

Having a pile of blueprints and steady hands is nice and all, but there is more to intelligence than that.

>>49225436

That's fair.

For the record, I don't think Taylor is a bad person, really. Most of that stuff she had good reason for. I just object to citing 'loyalty' as a virtue.

>>49225513
Man, I'd love to see some Valefor bombs that program everyone in the blast radius, or Armsmaster-style bombs that cram thirty different effects into one explosive shell.

>>49225563
Bakuda is fucking scary, man.

I've read one fanfic where her specialty wasn't "bombs" but rather "one-time use technology". Kinda similar to String Theory. It was pretty interesting.

>>49225559
Bitch be pining for Grue's dick after two years separated. I wish I had a girl who'd pine for my dick after two years apart.

>>49225578
>Oni Lee bombs that teleport and duplicate themselves exponentially
Or even better:
>Bakuda gets her hands on a Cauldron formula
>Makes bombs that give people uncontrollable superpowers
>Contessa can't stop her because of the continuous wave of trigger events
>Scion has to step in to prevent her from ending the world

>>49225630
I have one, it's not all its cracked up to be.

I hope during the editing Wildbow unfucks Grue, dude was basically not there anymore after the second trigger despite being even closer to Taylor than ever before.

>>49225661
Man, it must really suck to get to have sex with a woman, who wants to continue to have sex with you. You poor, poor man.

>>49225662
That was kinda the point, yea? The traumatizing situation ruined his confidence, so he became a wallbeefcake.

>>49225689
Namefag probably meant an obsessive ex was stalking him or being all yandere. Not a pleasant situation.

>>49225689
dude, I have a small array.

thats not the point.
Taylor was trapped in post breakup cling.
that mindset is nearly traumatic to just be around.
or at least my ex was that, still is that on occasion, to me...

it could be that I got the shitty end of the stick for that, BUT the shitty end of the stick for that DOES exist, and it fucking blows.