Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1063: Hooked in the Gabber Edition

>>49155209
Is that a bait reference?

You know, because we're so easy to bait?

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Jumpers, how were your first "boss fights" (or the closest equivalent)?

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Updated Nightmare Before Christmas with 3 more perks:

Nice Pipes, Bone-Daddy, A Witch’s Fondest Dream and Spirit of the Season

>>49155292
Huh, no thumbnail.

>>49155318
Yeah that is pretty weird. Something up with the system?

>>49155292
Spookio, my good tripman.

>>49155292
Spirit of the Season seems a bit weak for a 300cp perk.

A Witch's Fondest Dream sounds like it'd stake nicely with that perk from Monster Inc that makes you more popular the scarier you are.

>>49155292
Neat...damnit I'm going to have to revise my build.

>>49155292
What be the Jumper's favorite song from this film?

>>49155292
Tempted to get Spirit of a Season for the Fourth of July. Suddenly exude an aura of FREEDOM and 'Murrica.

>>49155419
The entire soundtrack is excellent, but I'd say I especially like What's This.

>>49155466
>The entire soundtrack is excellent
Well obviously. My personal favorite has to be Poor Jack though.

>>49155419
I like Jack's Lament a lot.

>>49155286
I beat up Brock real good let me tell you. Squirttled that Onix I did.

>>49155419
I've always been partial to This is Halloween as well as that song Oogie sings to Santa. I forget what it's called.

>>49155522
>Squirttled that Onix I did.
I hope that's not an euphemism for something else.

>>49155534
The Oogie Boogie Song.
No, seriously, that's what it's called.

>>49154973
So, I've looked through this now. Only got one question. Where the fuck are all those pregnancy charms coming from? Seriously, what? I guess I could expect it from Kimbery, but still.

Crippled Imperator Shintai and creating behemoths seems cool though.

>>49155548
Huh. Well alright then. Thanks.

Not entirely sure how I forgot that.

>>49155549
Szoreny "Borders" most of the other Yozi, and there is a Manse with a baby-thing in Szoreny that was made when Malfias danced through Szoreny

>>49155562
>>49155562
You probably made the assumption "That's not it's real name, that's just how I remember it". Because it's the song Oogie Boogie sings.

>>49155549
The weird thing is that the only example in canon involving Kimbery and weird pregnancy in any way is when her pre-Yozi Behemoth the size of an island (Lintha Ng Oog or something) was coopted and said to have 'given birth' when one of Kimbery's akuma burst out of a rock on it.

>>49155542
Do you want it to be?

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What are some good Jumps for an entertainer/theme park/traveling circus run? Besides pic related and the Generic X Jumps like Hollywood or Youtube.

>>49155292
>Take this as your first jump, pick up A Witch's Fondest Dream
>Go to Ravenloft next, take THAT drawback.
>???
>Profit.

>>49155621
Rick and Morty has the anatomy park blueprints for inside a human body.

>>49155549
Honestly it's somewhat magical realmy but it at least kinda fits SWLIHN and Adorjan, Ebon's a bit far though. I mean of course SWLIHN is going to have charms for making hereditary castes, while Adorjan it's fairly simple to extrapolate her love and four babies into making weird babies. And Adorjan already had one in canon anyway.

>>49155621
Sitcom has a lot and Fifth Element has radio talk show host.

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>>49155632
>THAT

>>49155648
Well Ebon Dragon does have third circle that's a shadow succubus, which itself has a second circle that's basically a succubus.

But I disagree on it fitting SWLiHN, she's a fucking collection of spheres and has never been known to create her own race or take mortal lovers like most other Primordials/Yozi.

>>49155632
>>49155666
Disfigured? It makes you a bit scarier.

>>49155666
>>49155680
The involuntary monster harem drawback.
You start attracting monsters like flies to honey.
A new Jumper would be scared, naturally.
The more scared they are, the more attractive they become to the monsters.

Infinite loop. Of despair. At least you'll die pretty.

>>49155674
I'd note that none of the SWLIHN charms actually require the Infernal to be either parent. It's adjusting your servitors for maximum efficiency, not having kids because you want kids. She's taking an unborn baby and forcing it into a particular spot on the hierarchy. But enough on that.

>>49155674
That's because SWLIHN's love for Theion is pure. PURE!

>>49155700
Except the perk makes you more attractive based on how scarY you are, not scared.

>>49155292
Does Spindly specifically apply to your NBC alt-form, or can I apply it to my forms as well?

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Question regarding banner Saga, how tough are the Dredge, from what we can figure?
Considering taking that as an early jump for blessing of Stravs to replace if it bleeds.

>>49155742
So it is. My eyes are retarded. I saw the '-ing' as '-ed'.

That perk actually has great synergy with Measure of a True Monster from Monsters Inc.

>>49155767
Whatever forms you have.

>>49155834
Can the Monsters created by Hiding Under Your Bed... benefit from Perks that enhance summoning abilities? Like the two from Bayonetta?

>>49155804
Yeah, I pointed it out earlier. >>49155371

Imagine using these two and then stacking all the scaring perks in addition to the charisma ones. What would the end result look like?

>>49155857
>What would the end result look like?
One glorious, gorgeous ball of eldritch terror.
So basically ASA after he spent all that CP on making his tentacles pretty. That pervert.

>>49155784
I think they're like, Draugr from Skyrim level.

>>49155925
So what if they start training?

>>49156009
looking at the wiki, you get scourges, who can equal or even surpass the giant Varl in terms of strength

>>49155449
Hey, could Nyarlathotep demigod powers from Percy Jackson be used to implant skills as well as knowledge? I want to start up a devil at the crossroads sort of thing.

>>49156211
Why not pick up archive magic from Fairy Tail? IIRC that can be used to implant knowledge.

>>49156211
There's an ability in the musician jump that is quite literally what you're looking for. I think it was under either blues or rock.

Message for Kotor Anon

Is there amyone else I need to talk to about a star wars Empire at War Jump?

I know in thread 1060 you said I could take a stab at it. Ive got a mock up halfway done but would like some way of linking you into the google docs as it goes.

>>49156211
My inclination is it grants knowledge, but some knowledge can be quite useful for improving or making better use of your skills. Stuff like architecture or medicine you're not going to see much of an issue once the person actually manages to sort through the years of college you crammed into his brain, but you can't just go make someone an Olympic athlete.

Basically it's purely mental, but you can get decently far with that.

>>49156375
ok, thanks

>>49156349
Considering your other jump so far and that you're putting more emphasis on critique (Or the lack) from spacebattles? I reckon you should fuck off and not ruin that setting.

>>49156349
Learn to ignore people like >>49156408

It's one of the tactics our shitposter uses to try and run off new creators.

>>49156408
Your entitled to your opinion, keep your hateboner in your pants.

>>49156421
I know, I should ignore, I know.

>>49156463
>>49156349
>Is there anyone else I need to talk to about a star wars Empire at War Jump?
Not that I know of.

>>49156662
Kay if youll be on rizon in a bit Ill hop on there after work.(about twenty)

I'd like to link you into a WIP.

>>49156446
What is your other jump out of curiosity?

Was it worth it, /jc/?

>>49156876
ye

>>49156807
Ive got six in the making the one(s) Im co- authoring(with different people each one) goes slow due to the feedback.

I presently shifting my focus between a few rough drafts. The nag(that's what he is not a shitposter) seems upset at the long process multiple people are taking with short strides.

That's the problem with being the one face others hear from.

>>49156876
Not sure yet. After all, shit does happen on a pretty regular basis.

But I'm having an alright time.

>>49156876
was what? importing the pink tide into generic hentai?

absolutely.

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>>49156876
Usually

>>49156876
That depends on which event you're referring to.

Because I have made a lot of bad choices, some of which were worth it and some of which were not.

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>>49156876
Yes

>>49156876
Either way, we're in too deep to turn back now.

Ah cripes, I feel asleep at the computer last thread...Uh, so if the two anons who were asking me questions before are still around, here are your answers:

No, it doesn't have to be Lugh specifically, but it does have to be a spirit/god of equal power to him. Keep in mind though that there are physical requirements for channeling gods and spirits, and Io already fits those for Lugh, plus it gives her a confidence/power boost.

It's just when Shiva's really freaking angry. It doesn't have to be Kama specifically, it's just that that was the only way the cast could make Shiva angry enough while being able to aim it towards the enemy. We didn't see Shiva afterwards, but given the fact that in levels alone he's stronger than Polaris, I doubt that really drained him that much.

Magnetite is everywhere in the DeSu-verse. In SMT, magnetite was required to give demons a physical form, but in DeSu, demons can easily gain and maintain physical forms. In fact, magnetite is instead used to copy skills the party leader has. Basically, while it's not shown, as you fight and your demons land hits and critical hits, and resist, null, reflect, and absorb enemy attacks, they build up magnetite, which they may then use to copy a spell/technique from your COMP (For example, Muliti-Hit, Megido, Salvation, etc.)

>>49156876
I didn't ask for this... but totally would have.

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>>49156876
Yes.

>>49156876
Maybe, depends on whether or not I can retrieve the souls of all those dead Tau from the warp and put them back in new bodies.

>>49156876
I think so personally. As exasperating as my companions can be sometimes, as frustrating as the Benefactor can be sometimes, and as dangerous as the jumps I go to are sometimes, it's all been real fun ride.

>>49157151
>Waifuing the space gypsy

>>49157184
Unlike gypsys though Quarians don't break mechanical systems with their presence alone. They only break them when they steal the components.

>>49157184
But Tali is best girl.

>>49157263
>Not ME1 Liara when she's a cute doe-eyed, naive scientist

>>49157299
Liara a baka.

>>49157184
I always saw them more as Space Jewish diaspora, personally.

>>49157184
>He doesn't waifu the space gypsy
I almost feel sorry for you anon. Almost.

>>49157263
You're a cool guy, Justice.

>>49157310
The Volus are the Mass Effect Space Jews.

>>49157310
I would like to point out the irony that the Geth never had any intentions of fighting/killing the Quarians, and that a good chunk of the plot of the Mass Effect Trilogy could have been avoided if the Quarians had just said yes when that one Geth asked if it had a soul instead of trying to kill it.

>>49157310
>Space Jews
>Not the Volus
Are you crazy m8?

>>49157299
ME1 Liara was cute, but Tali is better. Hell I liked Tali more than Liara in ME1.

>>49157351
A good chunk of the Mass Effect Trilogy could have been avoided if the Salarians hadn't given a highly aggressive and fast breeding race that was only kept in check by the dangers of their home world several Garden Worlds.

>>49157317
There are lots of Jewish stereotypes, anon, there's room for two species to be Space Jews.

>>49157351
Eh, not that much. Not having the Geth around in ME1 would have made Nazara's plan harder, but I'm sure he and Saren could have done something. Like, maybe they'd just wait longer for their cloned Krogan and Rachni troops to be available, or something like that.

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>>49157172
Putting your heresy aside for a moment
Tau don't have souls

>>49157373
The Krogans are a delicate issue, because the alternative to happy Krogans early on would be a galaxy taken over by the Rachni.

>>49157409
Technically they do, but as where a human soul is equal to or greater than a human body, a Tau soul is equal to a single sheet of paper. Anon's a heretic either way though.

>>49157373
>Are you crazy m8?
Volus are wealthy Ashkenazim. Quarians are poor Sephardim. My people are a varied and diverse one, with each group having its own racist memes about them. Educate yourself.

>A good chunk of the Mass Effect Trilogy could have been avoided if the Salarians hadn't given a highly aggressive and fast breeding race that was only kept in check by the dangers of their home world several Garden Worlds.
But then they would have all been eaten by the rachni.

>>49157442
>>49157458
Or, Or, here's just a thought.
Give them the worlds they took from the Rachni. You know, those really deadly worlds the other Citadel races can't survive on, that the Krogan did just fine on.
Anything but fucking GARDEN WORLDS.

>>49157063
Interesting.

Considering how Shiva has higher level than Polaris it makes me wonder how did YHVH have any issues with her and other admins.

As for Lugh, nah, I meant like... Could a Jumper make a machine or such to channel the energy into a physical form? Considering all various perks existing...

I also have another question m8. Can we level our comp to 99 outside the jump, or we can only do it in the DeSu jump?

>>49157465
What if the Krogan were offended by that?

>>49157373
>>49157442
>>49157458
A good chunk of the Mass Effect Trilogy could have been avoided if the Rachni weren't so xenophobic.

>>49157443
The Salarians would have come up with a bioweapon, the only reason they didn't was because of plot related reasons.

>>49157475
Frame it as the spoils of their victory. They took those worlds from the Rachni, they belong to them now.

>>49157482
Rachni were being mind-fucked by Nazara/Sovreign into attacking.

>>49157390
If they're the space Jews, then who are the Space Germans? Reapers?

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>>49157486
meant for>>49157442

Just fuck it all

>>49157063
The COMP/Nicea stats are just boosts onto the jumper's existing capabilities?

>>49157465
They did. The Krogan then went "nuts to that" and went off to conquer garden worlds. This isn't a case of the Citadel mismanaging some invasive species, it's a case of Krogans being assholes. The only reason they don't look like assholes in the series is because our perspective on the Krogan is Wrex, the Coolest Krogan Ever. And even he says that his people are a bunch of assholes. His entire character arc is about him trying to convince the rest of the Krogan to stop blowing shit up for five seconds, so they can repair their destroyed world even a little bit.

>>49157172
Naw. Take all the souls and conglomerate them into one super Tau. With AT Field

>>49157520
That's not what happened at all. They gave the Krogan Garden Worlds. The Krogan bred like fucking crazy, because they are a stupidly fast-breeding species, and got to the point they had no more room. Then they started conquering other worlds.

The Krogen ARE massive assholes, but the Salarians were either complete and utter fucking morons when they gave the Krogan Garden Worlds, or they were planning for the genophage from the beginning.

>>49157548
>Tau souls are so weak that bunching up all the ones in existence only equals one singular human soul

>>49157554
That's why you get soul training perks. Train them up

>>49157550
That's not what the Codex says. It says that Krogan warlords conquered garden worlds in the aftermath of the Rachni Wars, and the Citadel races were just too busy to stop them. The Krogan were given worlds, but there's no mention of them being garden worlds, and it is explicitly stated that most of the worlds they were given were former Rachni ones.

>>49157465
I find it pretty funny that you're blaming the Salarians for that bullshit when it was the Krogans that were trying to overtake the galaxy. And besides that, at the time the Salarians might have been grateful, and thought that giving the Krogans shittier planets would have been a bad thing to do considering their natural aggression and the fact that they bailed the galaxy out from the Rachni.

The Krogans were and frankly are pretty awful. The Genophage is at worst morally ambiguous, because at the time of its creation there was simply no other viable way to stop them that wouldn't have ALSO been genocide, and easily compensated for by the Krogan's rapid growth.

>>49155449
>become FREEDOM incarnate
>immediately jump Squirrel & Hedgehog
Best idea or Best Idea?

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Generic dungeon builder
25 yo male
The grand mountains
Overlord 900
When your evil free
A father to your minions 800
You and I were not so different 500

Dungeon
Golden core 400

Themes
Ruins theme 300
Gothic free
Natural 200
Outside 100

Adv themes
Dungeon towns -50

Facilities
Inn -150
Spa -300

Monsters
Binding -400
Monster safety -450
Special qualities -550 (humanoid, smart)
Adaptability -650

Perks
My art is dungeons -750
Phantom service announcements -850
Magic integration -1050
Musical dungeon -1100

Puzzles and traps
Skill tests -1200
Switch puzzles -1250

Items
Consequence tablets -1450
Dungeon chests -1500

Drawbacks
Public enemy number 1 -1300
Plucky adventurers -1100
Adventurers guild -900
Dungeon wars -300
Innefectual -100
Glitchy 0

I think I managed to make a hot spring Spa Resort on top of a dungeon. You pay to get into the dungeon and if you lose you just get kicked out to the entrance outside the inn. Monstergirls (and guys but mostly girls) help run the spa resort and come in all shapes and sizes, that way maybe the adventurers who come in will get distracted and be easier to beat.

Gonna teach all my monsters magic kung fu and normal magic.

>>49157625
So long as you are an amoral wolf man then great idea.

>>49157508
No one. They're Space Medieval Jews, there are Space Catholics and Space Conversos that they have to deal with, as well as Space Iberians and Space Portugese.

>>49157622
I'll admit I haven't read the codex in years, or even played the game since That game came out. But I distinctly remember it differently.

>>49157623
I'm blaming both of them. I'm acknowledging that the Krogan are fucking Aggression Beasts with little self control, and they breed WAY too fast.
But the Salarians were either idiots, or planning this shit WAY ahead of time.

>>49157655
>implying that removing kimchi is amoral
Kim Jong Un please.

>>49157471
Keep in mind, he's stronger in levels, and even then not by much. Polaris has multiple forms, where as Shiva has only one. Plus, Polaris has the conceptual power of the Heavenly Throne, and that's why YHVH has had such a hard time dealing with her and the other Administrators: he can beat them in a straight fight, but that thing's abilities are a pain in the ass to deal with, especially when God has a chunk of the multiverse he has to watch over, as well as fighting Lucifer and the Bels.

I suppose? In canon it required a deity like Lugh, but I suppose if you have the outside perks for such a thing you could pull it off with a tech solution.

As for the COMP, sure, why not.

>>49157518
Yes, it's just a stat bonus.

>>49157693
Hey hey hey, no. We can get rid of the North Koreans all you want, but retain the kimchi itself. That stuff is great.

>>49157693
No, just that the perks are like a low grade tolerance for evil. They make you goal oriented at all costs.

>>49157554
Isn't that basically the plot of Undertale?

>>49157747
It's a plot point.

>>49157708
>Rotten cabbage is great

>>49157747
It's not the whole plot, but it is an important plot point: already having six human SOULs, Flowey/Asriel absorbs all the monster SOULs in order to have the equivalent of seven human SOULs, thus granting him omnipotence, or so he says. Given that he casually destroyed a timeline, he might have been telling the truth.

>>49157508

daleks? imperialistic space nazis?

NO! JUMPERS! EVEEEER! [+600] – Hm, it’s a little early for him to be showing up, but it could be fun to watch. Jumper, you’ve somehow attracted the attention of a mad warrior from beyond time and space, one Barbatos Goetia. And he has decided he absolutely HATES you. The good news is that he is alone and won’t be pursuing you every waking moment of his time here. The bad news is that any time you’re in one place too long, he WILL find you...and his attacks WILL hurt, while you won’t be able to injure or even impede him. The only way to avoid him is to flee and drop whatever you’re doing long enough to escape. But still, no matter where you are, if you sit idle for too long (a day at the most), he will find you again.

Finally, on your tenth year, you will be able to actually fight the madman and harm him. However, there are conditions. The literal second you call upon your companions, your out-of-universe abilities, or even the simplest gear from out of this world, even the most passive and simple of abilities during this duel, you will immediately die. Because he will kill you while screaming the drawback name without any way to save yourself, regardless of your preparations. You need to fight and defeat the powerful warrior using only what this jump gives you, though you must still do so alone. As a small mercy, you CAN in fact use in-jump items without him immediately killing you, though using an All-Divide or some way to instantly end the fight will make that mercy disappear in a flash. You will be given at least a day’s advance warning for the final duel, and be able to shut off any abilities you have if you lacked the capacity for this occasion and this occasion only. Make it a good fight, Jumper.

I made this one a while go but the thread was having a stroke. As usual, have an insane and difficult drawback.

>>49157821
Nah, Daleks are Space Imperial Japan.
Except competent. Ish.

>>49157670
I think it was less stupidity and more desperation and no small amount of butthurt. The Salarians had just gotten over fighting a massively fast reproducing enemy. And then the very race that they uplifted to fight the Rachni turns around and does the same shit? I'd be pissed, especially if I gave them some rad ass worlds as a reward. It seems like very few council races have had other issues with rapid expansion, so the Salarians (being an especially short lived race) had no reason to anticipate it, Not to mention, this time they lacked another ace in the hole species to fight for them like the Krogan.

They weighed their options, and decided that wiping out the Krogan was preferable to the same dickbags taking over the galaxy and wiping out everything else.

>>49157867
Heavens, will you be offering stuff like the Mana Cannon as items, or a perk on how to build stuff like that? Maybe a background based on Dhaos or the demons or something?

>>49157910
Most I'm providing atm is a do-it-yourself item for building a Mana Cannon. So you'll have to build or somehow store one you built yourself, but yes, you can have one. I'm vaguely considering a Derris-Kharlan survivor background, but I feel like it'd too easily overshadow other backgrounds unless I handled it correctly. So wait until I finish the other ones, then I'll see if it won't be an issue. There will be a few Dhaos-based items and perks, at the very least.

>>49157867
No offense, but this seems like an especially wordy way of saying 'lol ur ded'. Is this supposed to be a joke drawback? Is it actually possible to defeat him with only in jump perks/items/whatever? Can he use stuff like All-Divide or whatever? The drawback doesn't really say how powerful he is in the context of the setting.

>>49157979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chsl6EID50Y

For the record, this fight IS possible using only Tales perks, but it is ungodly awful and difficult. The 'pursuing you until year 10' bit is based on a different game, where if you spent too long level grinding, he'd show up out of the blue and tell you to run the fuck away or he'd kill you.

Basically, imagine if the Final Boss to a mostly unrelated JRPG decided to bully you and chase you around Benny Hill style. That's basically this drawback.

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>>49157867
Why are you doing this shit to me Heaven

I just want to kill shit with guns away from universes where panties don't gain sentience.

>inb4 you don't have to take the drawback

Something like that should put you over the 600cp drawback cap too.

>>49158038
This actually isn't the capstone drawback.

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>>49158053

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>>49158053
As they say in the old country.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

For those applicable, what Rider did you become in Darksiders?

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>>49158053
This ought to be good.

>>49158130
Rider of Dank

>>49158009
I choose to believe that he's not no-selling your stuff through fiat, but rather because he's just THAT angry.

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>>49158176
Yeah mang

>>49158130
Decay

>>49158130
Hope. And before someone says it, no Hope does not ride alone.

>>49158130
I used to go Rider of Redemption, but then I switched my Build around to the Drop-In origin so that I could take Maker.

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>>49156876
Some days I wonder. But then something little will happen. One of my Companions will smile at me when they think I'm not looking. I'll try a dish I've never had before. Then I'll realize that yes, yes it is.

>>49155419
Making Christmas was always one of my favorites.

>>49157151
I approve of your taste. So hard.

>>49157644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VP7xTQf_qI

>>49158130
Justice

>>49158287
>>49158371
>Hope
>Redemption
Fuck, those are good

>>49158130
Ghost

>>49158176
>>49158198
You mean, the fabled...
Low Rider?

>>49158009
So you can hack it as long as you grind/train your ass off, but also spend a lot of time running away?

>>49157867
That is a really lame drawback with way to much fiat-fagging.

>>49158394
I am unsure what that link entails. On the one hand, clapping. On the other, him.

>>49157867
I think it works better if you post the video alongside it.

>>49158443
Basically. This is honestly one of the sillier ones I've made, aside from leg day.

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>>49158463
It's part of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI

Which continues to entertain me no matter how many times I watch it.

>>49158394
That chameleon looks unhealthy

>>49158488
Same here. I never get sick of that song. Others, even songs I really like, I eventually find bothersome to keep listening to. Hearing about the cannibalistic tendencies of Shia Lebouf? I can listen to that on repeat all day.

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>>49158488
HE WAS IN THE AUDIENCE THE WHOLE TIME!

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>>49158515
Well, she does have a plant implanted in her chest cavity. It's okay though. She didn't need that heart and the plant is making all the oxygen she needs. I have no idea what I'm talking about.

>>49158525
>>49158519
Killing for sport!
SHIA LABEOUF!
Eating all the bodies!
Actual cannibal
SHIA LABEOUF!

Tsukuhime offers the... unpleasant Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, but the Servant Supplement offers mystic eyes.

Can I purchase Mystic Eyes at EX to gain the better MEoDP?

>>49158629
No, MEoDP are soft banned in all its forms

>>49158650
Proof?

Inspired by the slowly-rising death count of Legion, after the death tally of Draenor.

One Light in the Darkness (+500 - maybe): Disregard the choice of era you may have had - now, you start in the year 25 ADP (After Dark Portal), in a location that best fits your choice of race and class. You are going through the entire story - from when the drums of war begin to thunder, to the Dark Portal's opening to the devastated Outland. The Lich King's invasion, the cracking of the world by Deathwing's will, and the discovery of a lost continent to the south. You will be known as one of the world's greatest heroes, and fight alongside others of your ken, such as Bolvar Fordragon and Khadgar.

But no matter how your actions shape this tale, Wrathion will believe the events in Pandaria to be not enough in uniting the world. Someone will be sent to the other timeline - whether it's Garrosh or not - and the Iron Horde will be formed, and the Dark Portal will turn red and link to the alternate Draenor. And here... is where it will all go wrong.

The deaths will pile up. Slowly but surely, even as you attain victory after victory against the Orcs, those you've fought alongside for years will fall, never to rise again. Gul'dan will be freed to become a powerful scion of the Burning Legion, and the demons' final invasion of Azeroth will commence. The death toll will rise exponentially, many giving their lives to stem the tide. Not even your Companions are safe from this - if they die, they are gone until the end of this story.

For at the end, it will be you and the shattered remnants of the Army of Light and Azeroth's denizens - against the endless Legion, and the Mad Titan Sargeras that heads them.

>>49158629
try data drain?

and an extra life perk, just in case.

>>49158660
Don't feed it. That way lies salt.

>>49158692
>Miib, not Mib

Kek
This is just a suggestion, but maybe you should consider another handle. I mean ffs I can't keep up with all of reds

>>49158692
Is Legion just killing everyone?

Gaunlet, about your Exalted Gaunltlet...
since snce some destenies give discounts,
have you thought about giving a discount on
SweetVoicedBeggar’sPetition
to those with the destiny
ALout,aLayabout,aLiceRiddledBeggar?

>>49158692
The Spacegoats will be okay though right? Right!?

Also consider me officially hyped.

>>49158660
Go through the archives. You can see how people feel about it.

Pretty sure >>49158698 is the shitposter trying to be clever.

>>49158629
>>49158650
Doesn't Kara no Kyokai have MEoDP as a capstone?

That's where I got it.

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>>49158726
I don't think we're getting off that easy, anon.

Everything will burn.

>>49158728
Sure buddy. Trying to avoid a shitstorm is shitposting these days.

Admittingly I jumped on the troll bandwagon a little quickly myself. So my bad.

>>49158726
The space goats will be fine by dint of them being irrelevant to the plot.

>>49158760
I do believe KnK has the Clear Eyes, which evolve into the MEoDP when Tohno has an accident, but not the real deal in either form.

>>49158760
No, it has the MEoLP. Very different and massively weaker.

>>49158709
Once I finish this. Damn it, I will redeem the mib line.

>>49158714
We're getting close to that point, everybody has Death Flags a mile high and we've already had many sacrifice themselves to stall the Legion or help obtain the Pillars of Creation.

>>49158726
There is no escape.

Not in this life.

Not in the next.

>>49158808
The other mib was even a nice guy, someone has just gone out of their way to make a hate cult like they did for Babylon. It's disgusting.

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>>49158792
>>49158780

So let me get this straight
MEoDP allows you to conceptually murder things
MEoDP allows you to regularly murder things more efficiently... right

Just... fuck you Nasu

>>49158808
>Once I finish this. Damn it, I will redeem the mib line.
...You should make a Men in Black jump.

Also, can we have a drawback that has you starting day one of World of Warcraft and playing through the entire series? Assuming that's not in the current version, I don't remember. Would take that even at 0 CP.

>>49158824
I mean MEoLP allow you to murder thing more efficiently

Just fuck my shit up

>>49158824
MeoLP. L. /L/. Life Perception. It's not Nasu's fault you can't read man.

>>49158824
>wishing for everyone to be happy

If everyone was happy, no one would be.

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>>49158692
Challenge accepted.

>>49158650
Uh, no? Maybe in purchasable form, but you can always figure it out on your own.

>>49158824
>>49158840
Two different things that are in the same category can be different? How dare that evil Nasu do this.

Come on dude. It's like you whining that the Sharingan is better then the Byakugan despite both being called doujutsu. Things can be better then other things in the same category.

>>49158629
You probably could, but there are better choices to be making with your sp. Especially considering how you can get similar things elsewhere.
God Hand comes to mind as does Pioneer of the Stars.
You'd probably still get aneurisms as well no matter how you try getting MEoDP.

>>49158660
You can take it if you like, but it's about the same as taking Real Eater in Medaka box.

>>49158629
>>49158871
Val has said in the past you can't take them in the supplement.

>>49158692
How does the location work if you have two or more classes? Is it based on your 'main'/first purchased class and race?

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>>49158824
>>49158866
I thought this would be relevant as an aside, especially NASU

>>49158890
Yep. Also how I'm running it for the freebie Artifact and Class Hall purchase.

Easiest way to keep shit straight, although if anyone has suggestions I'll give them a look over.

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>>49158856
> People don't like if you buy a thing because it's too powerful.
> But it's okay, because I decided to get it for free.

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>>49158848
We should wish for everyone to pursue happiness. I mean, she's what? 14? Her hearts in the right place, and you can build philosophy on to that.

It's why she's just the best daughteru ever. A good heart with lots you can teach her while also being weaponised cuteness.

War has changed

>>49158866
No no, I was just trying to wrap my head around the concept of a conceptual death. I mean Shiki never went that far in Kara No Kyokai.

I'm happy with just knowing where to cut to kill it. I like having a carcass left over to show off.

>>49158851
>Solar about to Exalt

>>49158928
Shiki killed timelines and distance. You sure you watched the show?

>>49158851
>Curved Scabbard
>Straight Sword
That the fuck?

>>49158934
Alternatively, Abyssal or Infernal about to Exalt after failing to Exalt as Solar.

>>49158944
It probably just bent/flexed as it came off.

>>49158856
Good luck with that whole void and root and akashic record thing.

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>>49158938
It was a while ago

Only one thing really stuck with me

>>49158928
Do we not define happiness in its opposition to sorrow? And do not some men find happiness only in the sorrow of others?

You know not what you threaten to unleash.

>>49158934
After the burial, I'd lean toward Lunar.

>>49158923
>you're limited to obtaining only what you buy with CP
>you just spend 10 years jerking off in a corner doing and learning nothing every jump
What you buy with CP is what you start with. There's absolutely nothing stopping you from grabbing up a ludicrously powerful artifact or power if it's up for dibs. But you have to go get it.

>>49158923
How does several decades/centuries of work with magic/conceptual bullshit perks=free? Since when is that a thing?

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>>49158996
Some people only find happiness in defending the weak and martyrdom.

The free market will prevail.

>>49158996

the good news is, kotomine doesnt get sad if he cant make others sad. he just gets... blank.

but beyond that, he and his gatcha full of black keys can go cry in a corner.

>>49158980
Thanks man. I appreciate that. Though from what I recall, Tohno's version isn't nearly as involved with the root/void/record, if at all.

>>49159014
>>49159023
> No, MEoDP are soft banned in all its forms
> Uh, no? Maybe in purchasable form, but you can always figure it out on your own.

I don't think you understand what banned means. If you're going to say you can get it anyway, then you can just go ahead and buy it.
There's not some magical "but it's okay if I do this" clause. It's the same power either way.

>>49159078
Yes.

But there are a couple of reasons for this. The main one is that powers bought with CP always work regardless of metaphysics or universal mechanics. Certain versions of MEoDP wouldn't work in other universes without CP as they rely upon metaphysical principles which don't exist there. There's also the issue that big scary artifacts tend to be guarded by/attract the notice of big scary people to go along with them. Also things that you pick up in jump don't respawn in your Warehouse post-jump like things you buy with CP do.

So there's a bunch of reasons why buying stuff with CP is better. But it doesn't mean that you can't acquire other items and powers.

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>>49159036
So be it. But be warned, only death is eternal.

>>49159078
No, I'm afraid you don't understand. The Eyes aren't banned in the first place. They're fucking offered in Tsukihime, and neither of the Fates or KnK actually ban it, they just don't offer it.

>>49159141
Please go through the archives.

>>49159141
I think that is the MC of that jump's version of the eyes, which is apparently inferior to another character's OP BS version of the eyes.

>>49159161
Not him, but you're the accuser.
It's your responsibility to provide evidence, not his.

>>49159161

why? if you want to prove your point, do it yourself.

because unless you have evidence, your word isnt good enough.

>>49159161
No. If you're going to make a claim that isn't supported in any of those jumps, you have to provide evidence for it.

>>49159161
You're going to have to provide evidence for your claim man. If you can't do that, don't go around making accusations.

Are we seriously shitstorming about the fucking eyes again?

Ok, I remember there's a butler option in The Dark Knight jump, how many other servant companions are there? IIRC there's a homunculus maid somewhere.

>>49159210
I wanna have Special Protagonist Eyes.

I wanna I wanna I wanna.

>>49159210
No, we're all dogpiling the shitposter for his fanon rurus.

>>49159161
>>49159184
I agree with the Great Old One.

>>49159180
>>49159184
>>49159188
Not him but I think he means that the Tsukihime Eyes are Shiki Tohno's Eyes and there is no option for Shiki Ryougi's more powerful eyes.

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>>49159141
> The Eyes aren't banned in the first place. They're fucking offered in Tsukihime
1) Soft Banned means they are present in the jump, but the thread gets mad if you buy it.
2) The argument is about the inclination that you can get around the thread's mad if you just earn the eyes in-jump.
3) This makes no sense, because that's not how people work.
4) If you don't care about the thread's mad, then you can just do whatever you want. Buying or not buying the eyes doesn't matter. Earning the eyes in jump is not somehow better. Just do whatever you feel like doing.
5) I don't really care what you do, and your face is dumb.

>>49159210
Basically our shitposter is samefagging to try and support the MEoDP despite it being pretty well know they're not supported.

>>49159210
Time moves in circles here anon

>>49159115
That's not always how it works. For example if you learn D&D magic without paying for it it still works out of verse. You can even teach it to scrubs elsewhere if you're wizard master race.
The only things that explicitly don't work when metaphysics are missing are fiat locked like infinity gems. Some could argue this either way, but jumpers for the most part trump setting. This is because otherwise shit gets really damn confusing.
For example plenty of Final Fantasy magic isn't even possible to pay for. You just learn it on your own even though it sometimes works only because of crystals or mist that doesn't exist in other worlds.

>>49159247
>the thread gets mad
No, the thread gets mad at dumbasses like you who keep reiterating points without evidence.

>>49159260
Time always moves in circles. that is why clocks are round.

>>49159247
Way to miss the point. People were upset about the eyes being offered for purchase because they are better than anything else in the jump. It was a balance issue. The thread never once concluded that the eyes should be 'banned', soft or otherwise.

>>49159313
>People were upset about the eyes being offered for purchase because they are better than anything else in the jump. It was a balance issue.
That has never been a problem. There's only bitching if that obviously better thing isn't on sale.

>>49159328
You must be new. Thread flips its shit if one option is far superior to all others.

You know, I found the proof in the archives.

But the sad thing is, Red commented in that long-ago argument, and I'm fucking guaranteed a shitfest if I post the arguments about the MEoDP as a result.

>>49159255
You're the one making claims about banning the MeODP that are completely unsupported by all written Type-Moon jumps, then getting butthurt and crying samefag when people ask for evidence that you are incapable of supplying.

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>>49159213
Homunculus maid is from Overlord. Theres also pawns from Dragons Dogma if they count.

People actually bought companions in Dark Knight that weren't CIA, Bane?, Dr. Pavelheer, Smee, Maimen, or Juan of Hugh?

>>49159343
You're wrong, though. People love super great options, especially if they're overpriced.

>>49159354
DO IT FAGGOT.

>>49159354
Just do it, it's storming shit anyways

>>49159343
Then why does thread flip its shit whenever a super superior option is banned from being taken out of a setting? Just a few threads ago you saw people bitching about Stargate update banning Ascension.

>>49159367
He's not saying that people don't like their absurdly overpowered 1000 CP options. He's saying that the thread doesn't like it when those options massively overshadow everything else in the jump.

I'm tired as fuck, people. Be a little more reasonable please

>>49159380
That's just people memeing on Red.
It wouldn't have mattered if it wasn't her jump.

>>49159359
My butler is my rock. He's always there to provide a second opinion to everything because he can and will call me out when I'm doing something stupid.

He keeps everyone centered and helps new companions get adjusted. Heck, even though most of them are older than him, he's kind of the de facto dad of the group.

>>49159354
Riiiight. You supposedly found proof of all three Type-Moon jumpmakers agreeing to ban the eyes in their jumps, and the only reason you give for not posting it is because of Red. You're definitely not shitposting.

>>49158650
>MEoDP are soft banned in all its forms
>>49159247
>Soft Banned means they are present in the jump, but the thread gets mad if you buy it.
The thread gets more mad when shitposters assert stuff like this.

Soft banning does not exist, only trolling shitposters.

>>49159380
I didn't see that, But I remember ascension being a fail condition.

I mean if I'm wrong I'm wrong but if I'm right then why not just leave it like that?

>>49159354
Just post it, our shitposter is already here trying to support the MEoDP, nothing would change.

Why do you niggers care so much about the Eyes anyway.

Is this like the guy who kept wanking Gilgamesh ridiculously much.

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>>49159402
>It wouldn't have mattered if it wasn't her jump.
>mfw
The reason people jump on Red for it so much is she does it way more often than other jumpmakers, so of course she's going to get remembered for that. But it still happens to other jumpmakers. Hell, Vampire Diaries got put on the drive despite the jumpmaker wanking it so much. If thread sees something strong and shiny in a jump, of course they're going to want it.

Telling thread "no" is just fucking stupid on your end and makes you an idiot.

>>49159465
Saying red hate is a meme has become a meme at this point. We're reaching levels of shitposting previously unimaginable.

>>49159462
It's not the Eyes anymore. We're just bad at not taking the bait.

Speaking of attractive stuff, people in this thread seem to care a lot about tiddies. What about asses?

>>49159380
There's an acceptable level of power that /jc/ tends to tolerate and that power level tends to be the point at which you become so strong that there is little or nothing in even a high power setting that's capable of threatening you in the slightest. This is because at that point it becomes an exercise in masturbation and you may as well just go ahead and Spark. There's no reason for you to be jumping anymore. So a lot of times stuff that's ridiculously OP in other settings will be limited to that setting or will be locked away until post-Spark.

>>49159465
>Vampire Diaries got put on the drive despite the jumpmaker wanking it so much
>Something I don't like got put on the drive, it must be a terrible conspiracy instead of me just being plain wrong
Oh just shut the fuck up.
It got on the drive, which means people thought you were a lying piece of shit then, and you are a lying piece if shit now.

>>49159400
Yeah? And I'm still saying he's wrong.

The only way I'll concede that point is if it's part of a background, which gets discounts, meaning that an entire background overshadows everything else. Which, in all fairness, I'm pretty sure the eyes actually do that. But that is not why people flipped out about them.

But we put massively superior options in jumps that overshadow everything all the time, and people love it. They're just usually their own seperate thing.

>>49159500
There is no such point, shitposter. You just want to control people's chains.

>>49159488
Well look at it this way, anon. People don't just get that hate out of nowhere. Unless you're implying that people just randomly decided to pull a name out of a hate and target them for years every time they post?

But that's drifting off topic. The point is, thread really isn't caring much for lore anymore, or what's an unbalanced option. They care for what's shiny.

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>>49159489

>>49159400
Pretty much. One of the biggest criticisms I've seen of the SB Gamer jump, besides it being made by SB and it having a lot of OC, is that The Gamer is far and above the best option.

In general, thread loves super strong 1000 CP options since they tend to be rather interesting (aka not "your strength increases by 300%).

>>49159443
Ascension isn't a fail condition. Ascending is choosing to stay. Godhood = choosing to stay isn't new. At the very least, it was done in FR (or one of the D&D settings anyways), and I'm fairly certain it's been done elsewhere as well. Most of the shit the stargate update got was simply because it's a Red jump.

>>49159500
And you think that this applies to Tohno's MEoDP? Really?

>>49159465
I always suspected the guy who started the hate train on Vampire Diaries was the anti-red shitposter. Now here is proof.

>>49159489
https://youtu.be/xasMasGkyYY?t=3m30s

>>49159522
>At the very least, it was done in FR (or one of the D&D settings anyways), and I'm fairly certain it's been done elsewhere as well.
Guess what? It's a stupid condition then, and it's a stupid condition in Stargate. The shit it gets is because it's a shit decision. Part of the setting, it shouldn't be blocked off.

>>49159524
No. I never mentioned the MEoDP. I'm simply explaining the typical logic behind why some aspects of a setting are sometimes limited.

>>49159547
>>49159510
You must be tired, you're trying to hide your vitriol. But it's still obvious it's you, with the same tired arguments.

>>49159527
As somebody who had to watch that fucking show because of a really crazy girlfriend way back in the day - yeah no, the jump's way off from the actual tv show.

>>49159566
Yeah and my mom the queen likes it too. What's your point?

>>49159527
Not him, but I'm pretty sure that the TVD jump is based on a SI fanfic over on QQ rather than the actual show. Author dropped his SI into Marvel later on and rolled over (most) of the setting, but he at least avoided fighting The Hulk.

>>49159579
I'm saying there's a reason people are calling out VD for being a non-canon powergrabby hackjob. But I guess it's too easy to lump every argument you don't like ever under one label, huh?

>>49159558
Ah. Carry on, then. I typically agree with that logic, it just seemed like you were wanking Nasuverse to have brought it up in this conversation.

>>49159500
The problem is that level changes. It's been raised significantly since the first hundred threads, and seems to fluctuate depending on the time of day and the people in it. There's never been anything approaching an actual consensus on that level either.

>>49159601
Too bad you decided to lump your argument in with a bunch of Red hate, huh? If there's ever an issue you actually care about, you have to learn to not do that.

>>49159601
>non-canon
This is wrong.

>powergrabby
But this isn't.

>hackjob
Neither is this, for that matter.

>>49159510
Only one person hates Red. Try harder.

>>49159566
Wasn't the jump based on the book?

>>49159641
I'm passively indifferent to Red.

>>49159641
Ooooh, are we doing this again? Trying to accuse all of jumpchain problems with one person?

Sorry sweetie. But the people who "like" her are in the minority. Just look at how many people didn't want her to even touch the Atlantis setting.

>>49159624
Yeah, that's the shitty part of it huh.

>>49159634
Justify half of your beliefs right now without relying on anti-Red feelings or being contrary.

>>49159661
Far as I know, blackshadow111 admits to pulling from the movie. If there was anything related to the book which I admittedly have not and do not want to read I'm unaware.

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>>49159670
Yes yes, you enjoy samefagging and phoneposting to generate false consensus. Why do you think anyone falls for it anymore?

>>49159713
Because everybody here fucking loves the taste of bait.

>>49159679
Why does he hate the chairs so much?

>>49159612
Yeah, I've noticed that.

I've always held that it's at the point where you can no longer be challenged by anything and the possibility of defeat or losing becomes realistically impossible. If you've got Yukari's boundary manipulation, for example, then there's essentially nothing that you can't do. You're practically omnipotent and nothing can really challenge you unless it's some insanely, unrealistically specific power that hard counters yours or you cripple your abilities down to practical nonexistence. So that's a good example of something that you really should not have pre-Spark.

>>49159612
>consensus

What is... this word? This heresy you bring into my house?

What next? Are you going to propose we start having "fun"?

>>49159733
Not everyone goes into this for the sake of combat, which is why people with your view of 'battle challenge' have never been able to dictate how things work.

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>>49159728
It's the only thing that makes me feel anymore!

>>49159733
Yukari isn't omnipotent. Just throwing that out there. She gets trumped by lunarians multiple times and it's outright stated she can't just open a portal on the moon. With the lunarian barrier in the way.
She's got limits, and therefor a jumper with her power would also have those limits.

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So, here we are again.

>>49159782
It's all we know how to do.

We can never live and learn.

>>49159731
He comes from a planet where all chairs were destroyed long ago in the great Cataclysm. He's been standing up for the past several hundred years, and to see humans use chair technology so frivolously enrages him.

That's not a joke, by the way. That is actually why he is tossing those chairs around. The only exaggeration is saying that it's chairs specifically and not any product of human civilization at all. Demushu is really angry at humanity for having all these cool things when he's just been standing in the middle of the woods for the past couple of centuries.

>>49159522
>Ascension isn't a fail condition. Ascending is choosing to stay.

>Choosing to stay in stargate isn't failure

I mean it's not bad, but out of all the IPs you could chose why would you pick Stargate?

>>49159790
SET ME FREE

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>>49159790
What are we, if not slaves to this torment?

>>49159796
Why didn't he just make a chair out of wood?
That seems like the smart thing to do.

>>49159767
>>49159779
I suppose that's not a great example. What I'm trying to say is that if you acquire a power that allows you to win automatically at everything barring some incredibly specific, unrealistic circumstance that counters you then there's no reason for you to be jumping anymore. I'm not talking about just combat. It's why you can't get Contessa's Path to Victory until post-Spark; you'd essentially be unbeatable at everything.

>>49159796
> standing in the middle of the woods
> middle of the woods
> woods
Does he not know how to... make... chairs?

>>49159818
Let's be honest.

Demushu does not really use what he's got in his skull much. He is very much a RIP AND TEAR kind of Overlord.

>>49159796
That sounds unbelievably stupid.

Where can I watch this glorious show?

>>49159805
Fair point. On the upside, you have tons of alien civs to fuck with and you get to hang with Sci-Fi MacGuyver.

>>49159811
I'd fuck either way

>>49159833
Kamen Rider Gaim.

>>49159818
>>49159826
I don't know. You'd think he would have, at some point And it's odd, because Demushu, like all the Overlord Inves, can mentally control the plants of the Helheim Forest. He could have just grown a chair out of the ground. But no, the Overlords have no chairs. Not a single one of them.

>>49159833
It's Kamen Rider Gaim, there are a number of translation sites that have it. I believe Aesir Subs is considered to have done the best one.

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>>49159833
Anon's at least 25% serious

But seriously Dem is not a smart fruit person hybrid

>>49159820
You actually can get Contessa's Path to Victory. It's just not for sale in the jump.
Grab her as a companion and get her a power sharing perk. That's all there is too it really. It's not like you'd be unbeatable with that either. Thinker headaches are a bitch after all.

Challange isn't the only reason people jump. Just look at ASA. There's still plenty to do even with arbitrarily large amounts of power.

>>49159861
>Just look at ASA.

Yes, we see every build post about how he smacks the setting with his dick. Your point?

>>49159861
>Challange isn't the only reason people jump
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>>49159871
Name me any long-running jumper who doesn't do that.

>>49159861
If you podded Contessa, wouldn't the shard get left behind and she'd just be a normal person again?

>>49159871
My point is there is no cap where you have to stop jumping.
Not even if you're literally omnipotent. Auto sparking isn't a thing and if you're too lacking in creativity to think of something to do at that point then the problem is entirely yours.
This doesn't mean you should be able to buy omnipotence, but to claim an arbitrary power limit before there's no reason to continue jumping is absurd.

>>49159861
Contessa doesn't get headaches. It's added in the perk (I think?) as a limiter, but it's not part of her canon power. Her power was unlimited, then Eden slapped a restriction (or two) on it as she sort-of-died, but she never applied the full suite. So no thinker headaches, and the power isn't properly restricted.

Of course, you could also just recreate the shards/entities themselves, which has much more potential but is significantly more difficult. More of a late-chain option unless you build specifically with that in mind.

Few other powers that got away without the proper restrictions. Hero is a great example, Eden died before she could properly restrict it, so if you can rez Hero, he's fucking BULLSHIT.

There's also powers that were intentionally stronger than normal. Nilbog and GU are likely examples.

>>49159890
Worm companions work off fiat post-jump.

>>49159820
Because exploration and learning is fun.

>>49159882
Konata_Anon, by default. And Red.

>>49159890
Companions get to keep the power without a shard. Use a blue feather for max gains.
Or you know just steal the power with your own bullshit. Several ways exist to get really good power copying.

>>49159909
>Red

Oh great, and incoming shitposting in 3.

>>49159909
>And Red.
Doesn't count.

>>49159882
Justice anon, when he talks about his adventures beyond posting a build, mostly talks about waifus, building shit in his lab, helping people, or trolling people.

>>49159908
Which is why omnipotence and omniscience totally suck.

>>49159921
>Incoming
>anon is part of a shitstorm trying to drum up some asa vs red nonsense already
You're part of it.

>>49159878
Personally I like bringing freedom to the multiverse With my waifus

>>49159921
>>49159923
It's hard to slap a setting with your dick when you don't have one.

>>49159909
>Red

Doesn't count, any Jumper with at least 10 jumps under their belt can kick her ass with how she downplays anything and everything.

>>49159933
Which is why post-spark is boring. There you go.

>>49159902
I still say that having what is effectively a tas bot doesn't mean you're unbeatable. If someone is way out of your league you're still shit out of luck.

>>49159947
>traveling the multiverse with omnipotence is way better than traveling the multiverse with omnipotence
I'm not sure if you're being serious.

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>>49159861
Not even hating on ASA, but he pretty much has to invent things to challenge him at this point. If he doesn't specifically have things scaling to his power level or a drawback ripping away his powers so he's made of meat, then every jump is a vacation for him. He's not really a good indicator of power.

Especially since he still posts long rambling dialogs about his jumper's builds and feelings, and other people who are supposedly at his level... don't.
So we can't even know if that's normal, or if people are really just steamrolling everything. ASA's an outlier in every sense of the word. He can only be looked at as a potential, not a baseline.

>>49159947
Post-spark you get to invent new things to learn about and explore. At least if you made your build correctly.
It's just more freeform than before.

>>49159946
Pretty much, she's always saying how she's horrible and weak. Anyone who bitches about ASA hasn't been paying attention to Red being more of an actual one-trick pony. At least ASA has variety in how he takes over a setting.

Red just runs and emo whines about the setting being able to beat her up all the time.

>>49159977
>long rambling dialogs about his jumper's builds and feelings, and other people who are supposedly at his level... don't.
Sorry? I'm bad at writing and would rather write nothing than write cringe worthy stuff

I've done a little writefagging, but not much.

>>49159946
>>49159991

At least you're waiting between samefags to make it seem like you're not waiting on the 1-minute timer at least.

You're improving your Shitpost-tential.

>>49159967
There's no way to get actual omnipotence pre-spark.

>>49159913
What were those? Besides Sacrificial Bestowment and the Bleach jump, I mean.

>>49160002
I would read your writefagging, Justice.

Well, as long as you can fit it in a post or two.

>>49160013
Put one of the omnipotent versions of God in a pod, then do Lip Service + Megatama.

>>49160013
But there could be anon. And that's why there are rules. I'm just saying.

>>49160008
He's also accomplished the magic of making me look forward to mondays.

>>49160022
>Implying you can seduce the omnipotent

>>49159977
Part of the thing with ASA is that at this point, it's not physical danger he has to worry about, it's his mental state. He used to be a powemad maniac, then he became obsessed with stasis, then he got Cosmic Power from Kamen Rider, which is the power of friendship, and had a mental breakdown...that, and he actually takes threats like the Outer Gods, the big players of SMT, and I think the Solar Exalted seriously, to the point where Nyarlathotep tormented him for hundreds of jumps.

>>49160013
There actually are. Find an omnipotent being and convince them to make you omnipotent.

>>49160020
Fine. I'll do some for Infernals when it comes out, for both Justice and Gamer/Minion Master.
Because it's a setting I know and love, and my favorite splatbook of said setting.

>>49160038
They can choose to let themselves be seduced.

>>49160019
Copying? or granting?
Either way Heroes has literal power copying. It's just one slot, but I'm sure you can fit something good in there.
There's also Data Drain and Get Ability from Generic Virtual World and Battlenetwork respectivly. Those are digital only for recieving, but they work in meat space once you're done. Just upload whatever you want to a VR and get to work.

If you're looking for granting there's Loyalty ending Dishonored, and lip service from medaka box. I think avengers has a good one as well.

>>49159959
I don't think I said anything related to that, but yeah? Having said that, Contessa can handle just about anyone in-setting despite being an otherwise normal human, assuming she isn't blindsided by something she can't see coming. With jumper abilities, an unrestricted PtV, and good prep time, you could handle pretty much anything.

Also of note, the "guide" aspect of PtV is mostly fanon. From her interlude:
>Her uncle was only getting to his feet now. Every action was mechanical, spelled out by this surety in her mind’s eye, helped along by a complete, exacting knowledge of how and where to move every body part.

>Seven involved uncorking the right bottles. Eight involved obtaining a specific amount of powder, moving her hand in a careful, precise way, so the exact right amount piled up in her cupped palm. She dashed it into a half-full mug and drank, just as her uncle reached her, putting his hands on her shoulders, shaking her.

Also:
>Her body ached, but it was easy. She knew how to move, how to place her feet so the branches didn’t catch on her or trip her, to avoid the patches of lichen which would break away and make her foot slide on the rock beneath.

Her power gives her the steps and all the info she needs to complete them. Basically, it looks at the future and finds out what it needs to tell her to accomplish the steps properly.

>>49159241
...why am i a great old one?

>>49160008
You think she'd actually come in and defend herself, or show that they were wrong.

Actually, when was the last time she bothered to post a build?

>>49160082
>Actually, when was the last time she bothered to post a build?

Why bother posting builds when you know the only thing waiting for you is shit and drama regardless of what you try to do?

You saw the crap with Stargate.

>>49160082
She doesn't because shitposters gonna shitpost, at any excuse they have.

Show me a post she's made in the last... three months? Six months? Where someone hasn't shitposted as a response.

The problem is that it's become such a part of the idiotic trolling we've got here, that I can't tell whether YOU'RE trolling by asking for her to post.

>>49160108
We do lose more builds that way, don't we?

There really isn't any hope, is there?

>>49160082
Be honest with me, do you really think that Anti-Red would stop even if he got proven wrong? I mean, we've all seen him repeat the same insults and arguments over and over again.

As for her last build...actually? The last one I remember for sure was DeSu 2. And I think that was posted last year.

>>49160077
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Anon 4chan wgah'nagl fhtagn!

Anon fhtagn! Anon fhtagn!

>>49160082
Theres really no wining for any namefag in her position. She either says nothing and gets called out for not defending herself, or she posts and the shitposters start pulling her shit apart.

In fact the only thing she probably can do is anon post something like this pointing out how fucked she is in regards to this community.

>>49160108
>Why bother posting builds when you know the only thing waiting for you is shit and drama regardless of what you try to do?
To show the shitposters she's a strong, independent woman who don't take no sass? I'm sorry, I'm trying to be humorous. I'd be surprised if she didn't give up trying to update Stargate or do Black Crusade, which is sad.

>>49160138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75hQwSJFuXg