The Official MTG Snowstorm/Lore Thread

>>49137570
inb4 second image

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>mfw Serena ducks up.

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An army of these horrific hybrids of naked mole rats, ant-eaters an rust monsters want to eat your flake's gear.

What does your flake do?

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Reposting question from last thread:

How much magic can a freshly awakened planeswalker learn in, let's say, a decade, starting from nothing?

White and blue. Illusions, counters, tapping/untapping, cantrips, hieromancy.

>>49137714
u cheeky cunt

>>49137779
Cute!

Is there a way to watch the creative panel?

>>49137788
White and blue are the colors of regimented, disciplined learning. There are no sudden flashes of insight, there is no bargaining with great powers for an easier chance to learn these powers, there is no sudden surge of power in times of great turmoil.

Nonetheless, personal prowess matters a great deal. If they're a sort of prodigy, they could easily end up at Jace-tier. If they're fairly average, they'd probably just be as smart as your typical planebound wizard. But the only way to advance in that sort of magic is to just persevere and study your butt off.

>>49137748
I did? I was only half paying attention when I made this one.

One of the character's preferred "spells" is Bandage. What does this tell you about them?

So we can confirm the repository is just dead-dead now, right? No one can go in and update it?
I'd really like Thane’s updated sheet to be in there when his turn at the ice age comes up.

>>49137953
They're the type of person who doesn't rely on magic for healing. At least I think that's what Bandage means. It's also a cantrip, implying they value knowledge rather highly.

>>49138047
You can just make a new repository and download everything into it from the old one.

ICE AGE, RESULTS WHEN

>>49138144
You're as obnoxious as the twit who kept on demanding updates to the snowstorm when I still maintained it.

>>49138166
good

>>49138128
I would if I could trust myself to actually pay attention to these threads as much as Gaea-anon did.

>>49138047
I'll update it. Post it.

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>>49138730
You're the best anon.
http://pastebin.com/BanTuFfX
And some writefagging.

>>49138730
Wait, someone else has access to the repo?

Hot damn. The storm can continue.

>>49139096
Nope. Still Gaia anon. Just forgot to put the tag on

is
is the match decided yet?

>>49139838
He said that it'd be a few hours before the next update, probably IRL stuff or sleep >>49137249

>>49139950
ohhhh, shit, I missed that. Thanks, thane

>>49139264
Did you see the story I posted in the last thread? Just an updated version of an existing Ussa story that I'd like to have replace the old version. Thanks!

>>49139264
>>49140376
Oh, oops, nevermind, you did. Sorry. You should get rid of the old version, though.

So a creature for kaladesh was spoiled that was both an artificer AND a druid.
that's kinda a big deal flavor-wise, isn't it? Druids are supposed to be the most anti-artifact, right?

>>49140395
done

>>49140478
It almost looked like she was using her artifacts to direct the growth of plants, like how you tie wire around bonsai trees and whatnot.

>>49140503
she seems to be doing to plants what etherium does to people.
This is a huge deal, holy shit. Green artifice from a plane other than mirrodin

Reminder, polls need voting on:
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11139798
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11139799
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11139800
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11139801

Amusing fact, Ireth and Kixdle both gained enough votes to equalize since this thread was made.

>>49140478
The other way around of >>49140503
Druids and elves on Kaladesh can feel the way the aether moves through the air, and they manipulate the metal to best serve that need or something.
As another anon put it
Worldbuilding tl;dr: elves have aethervision in this plane and are best at guiding aether around as it is a core part of the ecosystem of kaladesh. They are also why everything metal has a curved organic look.

>>49140659
I'm super excite for green kaladesh stuff

>>49140631
same with vanya and ireth
spiders = squirrels apparently, the two true faces of green.

>>49140631
TEN MINUTE CALL, FOLKS.

>>49141520
YYYYYEEEEEE

>>49141520
AT LAST

YOU HATH RETURNED

>>49141520
HE IS RISEN

There are a lot of almost-tied matches
So, who would dare to cast new votes?

>>49136650
>>49136995
>>49137249
The following flakes move on to the next round:

>Vanya
>The Cathar
>Kixdle
>Huija

The next batch will be posted shortly.

>>49141650
aww, no squirrel girl, but ok, will wait for next batch!

>>49141667
You got the goblin girl through, Despognak. Be happy with that much.

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>>49141650
The next batch of flakes is as follows:

>Ivander
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxenY5MlJDWl9pNW8

>King Artorius Pendraig
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxVEk5VW55emViVDA

>Kaina
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxV09OU1RpcjJFTkE

>Myrina
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxQzJSXzBlNFd0WVk

>Tristram
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxcDNaaG0xR0x2YzA

>Serena
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxbklJWVNaMDRmMjg
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxTXRKOU8yZGNacjQ/view?usp=sharing

>Unit IV
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxYnlIX21uaFZFMXM

>Anna
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxNnVnU2NVOFFJVWM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxNHFXVVFvQnpJX3M/view?usp=sharing

DISCUSS!

>>49141698
actually, is Ka'koarm anon, not those guys. I just like that meme, but it's understandable that she lost.

>>49141735
Unit IV has an artificial spark, toss it, it shouldn't be here.

>>49141735

>Unit IV

Phyrexians can't be planeswalkers. Out it goes.

>>49141735
Unit IV is a created flake and Phyrexian flake, ban he.
King Artorius Pendraig is a joke flake that's just a straight rip off of King Arthur. Ban he.
Kaina has no actual bio or powers, we know nothing about her. Ban she.

>>49141735
I think the king arthur flake can stay. Besides the joke origins it otherwise checks out I think. Maybe?

Kaina has damn near nothing to learn about her character on her bio, so I don't think we can guess her ability well.

>>49141735
HERE WE GO!

>>49141752
>>49141772
>>49141785
I agree with these about Unit Iv. But was Artorius actually a joke flake?

Kaina, Tristram, and Unit IV all look like problematic flakes to me.

What do the rest of you think?

>>49141865
I believe in you, darling. The power of Avacyn will smite your enemies. You can do it.

>>49141650
And down goes Remes.

Well, I was bound to lose a flake somewhere. I've still got one in waiting, too.

>>49141906
why is tristram problematic? I don't like him, but I don't think I can see the problem. Is it with his home plane?

>>49141906
>Tristram
Damn. That is a wall of text that my outdated prescription doesn't want to read. Tldr?

>>49141963
>>49141986
Actually, it's the part where he drags an angel with him through the multiverse via literal plot armor..

>>49141992
It was so long I didn't even notice that.

That's a definite ban he.

>>49141992
ahhhh, if that's the case then no, I don't think he can do that, unless he's physically wearing the angel somehow.
is... is he? Eww.

>>49141992
Also, he is a human from Serra's Realm during the pre-mending. There's no way he would still be alive.

>>49141963
Made of mana or not, I doubt an angel can be turned into a suit of armor.

>>49141986
Young boy lived on Serra's realm and thought angel's were great. Mom made fake wings and he put them on and jumped off a roof. Angel kept him from going splat and showed him a good time. She is now his best friend all his life. When his knight training is done SERRA HERSELF turns the angel into living armor for the boy-now-"man" to wear
Phyrexia invades and they get their shit pushed in, Tristram planeswalks away and now the angel can defuse with his armor and become a companion that rides on him as armor whenever he planeswalks.

>>49142027
Yes, yes he is.

>>49142027
No, it looks like the armor he's wearing bonds him to the angel and calls it to wherever he goes somehow?

>>49142030
I'd say if he got away before urza collapsed it he would have survived, but the angel armor fiasco is not something that we can let slide, he goes.

>>49142047
My mistake. Still it seems as if the armor can rip the angel across the blind eternities to his side. That's a lore break, especially after the mending.

>>49141735
The match-ups are as follows:

>Ivander VS Unit IV
Ivander gets a bye to the next round as the result of Unit IV's disqualification.

>King Artorius Pendraig VS Serena

>Kaina VS Tristram
Amazingly, both flakes have been disqualified.

>Anna VS Myrina


DISCUSS!

>>49142073
>Artorius and Serena
Serena gets it due to being a rage-filled angel. The Arthur-expy is trampled.
>Anna and Myrina
The satyr gets this one. Myrina gets it from a combination of natural superiority, experience and superior magic.

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>>49142073
The way I see it Serena has the upperhand in a 1v1, she has way more combat experience on him due to sheer age as well as natural advantages in terms of physique and magic. Anyone with creature based strategies is going to have a hard time against her as anyone who has played against my flavour deck in cockatrice can attest.

>>49142150
eyyy, fuck you too.

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>>49142165
Sorry Leonfriend, my temper is too fiery for you.

>>49142073
>Arthur vs Serena
I think Serena's got this, but not as easy as the others seem to think. Arthur's got greater numbers and protection, and the only reason it isn't a toss-up in my mind is because of serena's aerial superiority and lightning helix is hax in regards to ranged combat.

>Anna vs Myrina
probably Myrina, far more combat-capable and with stronger bonds to the magic she weilds, a better magic user and a better fighter, so she has a good deal of advantage here.

>>49142073

>Artorius vs Serena
Innistrad angels are very powerful and Serena, FUCKING PISSED, is no exception to that, and she's a planeswalker on top of that. Serena by a country mile.

>Anna VS Myrina

I honestly don't know. They seem pretty evenly matched. Seems like it could go either way to me.

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>>49142185
It's okay. Gisela has (or should I say had) a power greater than 4, so my explicitly optimized for combat flake still has a chance.

>>49141735
>>49142073
POLLS!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11142679
http://www.strawpoll.me/11142680

>>49142073
Anna would need to out value Myrina early on or stall long enough to hit the satyr in the face with a big creature. I think the task mage could make it happen, but it would involve heavy sideboarding.

>>49142256
Wow, I actually feel bad.

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>>49142365
>Serena feels bad about killing Saber
So this is what it takes to make angel hitler feel bad.

>>49142256
TEN MINUTE CALL!

>>49142427
I get massively upset about almost everything bad that happens to people in any game/fiction I enjoy as you well know. It takes very little to make angel hitler feel bad.

>>49142493
COME ON SAIBA FANS, YOU CAN DO IT
I BELIEVE IN YOU
looks like he's not getting the grail this time either :3c

>>49142493
you may need to flip tiebreaker for that serena fight

>>49142591
hah

>>49142606
You won't be laughing for long~

>>49142618
Oh? Do tell.

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>>49141735
>>49142073
>>49142256
Oh, look. A coin toss.

The following flakes advance to the next round:

>Ivander
>Serena
>Anna

Only five batches of flakes left before Round One is finally concluded.
If you're still waiting for someone to appear, it could very well be tonight.

The next batch of flakes is as follows:

>Salicia
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxS0JaTUhaTHl5NWM

>Kaya
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxVlh3dERYdWdpVzg

>Iriqi
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxVmRkQ1h0VzJUc0k

>Grandma Swamp
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxWGt6M0JaWmEzZ0U

>Gaia
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxdGQ0QlpkS3BSN1U

>Thane
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxM2xWdV9GM2JyZEU

>Leeharll
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxWC1KbUxQVFdRTXc

>Kikiki
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxcDJQUXdGQzJoLXM

DISCUSS!

>>49142618
Sorry, I'm very drunk, atm. So I'm very oblivious as to what is going on.

>>49142644
>Gaia
THE STEAMROLL BEGINS

>>49142644
>Thane
It's time!

>Gaia is right there
Fuck!

>>49142644
>Anna moves on
NO TAKE BACKS

>>49142644
I would like to say in her original bio Gaia was hooked to the plane and being reduced to neowalker level means her plane collapses and kills her like it did in her story.

>>49142707
That's cheap. The only way her opponent hopes to win. But cheap.

>>49142644
Is Gaia even enterable anymore? What version of her will be fighting?

>>49142687
There is in fact no guarantee that you would have to fight Gaia just because your names appear next to each other on the list. I randomize the first list so that you can't guess the match-ups until after we start disqualifying.

>>49142746
Oh I know, it's just that the chance is there. It's the whole "One door has a prize, one door has nothing, and one door has a man eating alligator" mindset.

>>49142644
If we're using the core Gaia, ban she. She's the comatose soul of a world, unless she's awake. Keep in mind that according the rules, if she is awake, she's reduced to the same level as other walkers and her world-building abilities mean almost nothing. Gaia genuinely isn't that strong in this format, if she's acceptable at all.

So either Gaia is not a viable entry or Gaia is relatively under-powered and under-whelming.

>>49142764
That's hilarious.

>>49142737
So what you do
Is you take Gaia
and whatever her opponent is
and you throw them into a vague location
and you treat them as non-meme, post-mending walkers.

And then you figure out who would win if they fought.

I know that I just put that ridiculously, but that's really pretty much it. You take characters out of their context, you bind them to the same rules, and they battle.

>>49142795
She may not have that raw power, but she still has the knowledge and spell-selection of a FUCKING OLD oldwalker who made a plane. That's still scary as hell.

>>49142798
Not that guy, but there is three different fightable gaias of different, yet all high, levels of power and fighting ability that need to be considered. Gaia's anon says her postmending survived Gaia has access to lots of the same spells. We rolling with that?

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Just letting everyone know that we have equipment in the lore that becomes (houses) creatures. Pic related.

>>49142852
I suspect the soul would either be forced out of it or be destroyed were someone to attempt planeswalking while it was ensouled.

>>49142841
And the disadvantage of being a world soul for eons is that she's probably severely off-kilter when she awakes at last and probably not used to using her magic in any combat situation.

The potential for power is there but she needs to shake off the cobwebs and remember, she's a world-builder first and a combatant second, if that.

If anyone has questions, just ask. Damn, why couldn't this have happened while I was sober? Oh well. This is fun anyhow.

Admittedly, I figured Gaia would be the talking point of this round. That's some big, unusual backstory to take into account.

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>>49142852
Also, another example of artifacts becoming critters.

All I advise is do not fall for the meme magic of Gaia.

No matter how powerful Gaia once was, she is depowered to the same level as other planeswalkers, she was never a fighter primarily and she has a lot of drowsiness to shake off tens of thousands of years spent comatose.

Consider this when rating her fight. I won't call for her disqualification though.

>>49142908
Honestly, I expect she'll take the number 1 spot if she is allowed to fight, I cannot think of a flake in the repository that can face her on equal footing that won't be disqualified.

>>49142948
This changes things. If downgraded, gaia can be beat, though she's still a pretty tough cookie.

>>49142906
Gaia
you're never sober.

>>49142948
>she was never a fighter
Not to be that guy, but she did ignite on the battlefield as a soldier.

That is all.

Fuck, I'm sorry.

>>49142906
Implying you're ever sober, slut.

>>49143003
And what did she do in terms of fighting after that? Has fighting been a big part of her existence as a planeswalker?

>>49143019
I mean, how much sword-fighting does an oldwalker need to do? I'd figured she kept it up as a way to honor her heritage, and she thinks of swordplay/martial arts as a form of art and self-expression. So she kept up the practice as a way to stay in touch with her roots and artistically express herself. But really, I've left a lot of her history vague. War Gaia fights with an enchanted sword post-mending that she uses to channel her spells. So there's that. Really, it's up to the thread as to what is what. Did that make sense?

>not disqualifying Gaia so she can finally be reunited with Will

>>49143068
Her original sheet actually has none of her history outside of her making a plane and sleeping in it. No ignition, no life before ignition, no experiences before the plane-making, etc.

In any case, I'd still imagine she's really, really rusty after waking up, unless her skills are somehow maintained like she never went into an eon-long coma.

>>49143111
>wanting to be united with the shit who collapsed her plane

I know you guys are mostly focused on Gaia, so I took the opportunity to scrutinize literally all of the other flakes. So here are my questions.

>Leeharll
How does a human live this long if they were born pre-mending?

>Salicia
Can you survive the process of being turned into an Innistrad vampire these days?

>>49143113
It's true. Her history and ignition were a writefaggin I did. Though, it needs to be updated to fit her retconned origins.

And yeah, she probably is rusty. I mean, I'd never planned on her fighting other walkers when I made her, to be honest. She's as much of a setting as she is a character.

>>49143135
With leeharl I imagine, while immortality is hard, smaller lifespan extensions are probably pretty easy, especially in green/blue, but I will admit her bio doesn't actually say that. The vampire thing is still viable as far as I know.

Any other opinions?

>>49143135
Yep, being made into an Innistrad vampire still keeps you alive. It's a condition of the blood, not undeath or even identity death, like compleation is.

>>49143135

Where does it say she was pre mending?

>>49143251
"She ran wild with the Gruul, until the original Guildpact failed."

That event happened before the Time Spiral block.

>>49143272
Then that brings up the problem of her either having to be on Ravnica from before the guildpact was signed or not being able to go there since the Guildpact put Ravnica in its own little bubble.

>>49143135
Innistrad vampirism is a demon designed curse, but you're still alive. They were almost literally designed so Sorin could be a vampire and a planeswalker.
Zendikar vampires are similar, just an eldrazi made curse, so that's still a slim maybe

The mending and the dissolution of the first guildpact wasn't too long ago. IIRC there was a UR where a grandfather took his grandson to see a play about the original Ravnica block with having happened in grandpa's lifetime.

>>49143312
Classic Ravnican vamps, Moroi, are also living, but appear to getting phased out in favor of traditional vamps, much to my displeasure.

So, in theory, if we take Gaia as she's written on her sheet...

And we drop her into the middle of a battlefield...

She would suddenly be affected by the mending, and awake.

How do you think she would try to fight, having just suddenly lost a lot of her power?

As an oldwalker, she is practically a god. As a neowalker, she is whatever she was before her spark ignited, but with gained experience.

Matchups soon?

>>49143331
Actually the Morii weren't the only kind of vampires on Ravnica. Szadek himself looked like a more classical vampire, but was from another race of psychic vampires that were almost extinct.

>>49143312
It was uncle and nephew I believe, and it has been roughly 60 years since the guildpact fell.
Humans on Ravnica live a fuck long time.

>>49143346
honestly I haven't the foggiest. There is a narrative Gaia had for being a depowered former oldwalker turned neo-walker, but we don't have the info for that iteration of the character. Even as a neo-walker I imagine her power's pretty fucking high, but I can't guess to what extent.

>>49143346
She's been living in an immaterial state as the core of a world.
I imagine the first thing she'd need to do is remember how to move.
Didn't Nahiri have trouble breathing when she unsealed herself from Zendikar when the eldrazi almost got out the first time.
I remember something about her lungs being raspy and her vocal cords needed to fix themselves.

>>49143374
Szadek was a Moroi, ya goof, moroi are the psychic vampires, they also happen to be able to shift their forms, hence why he didn't look like the generic moroi.

>>49143346
She!m still mastered every color of mana though and has millenia of experience. raw power or not shed wreck some shit

>>49143379
They sure do. Agrus Kos lived to be like, what, 130something?

>>49143398
>>49143374
Actually.

Szadek was the very last of his race. He and the Moroii aren't the same thing.

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>>49143411
>Gorgons were supposed to be down to their last
>Brain vampires were supposed to be down to their last
Ravnica's pretty good about not letting their evil shit die out.

>>49143446
This is painfully true. I think that the writers for RtR just asked for a list of who was in charge of each guild when the block ended, then decided to do whatever the fuck else that they wanted.

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And, just too late for the Ice Age, Maxwell decides to bone up on his burn! New sheet and card coming.

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Man, I thought now that Eldritch moon was over, people would stop going crazy. Guess not.

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>>49143469
>>49143479
And here's Maxy boy in his pissed off card form.

>>49143405
This, to be honest. I mean, even depowered, she's still old af and a domain walker.

>>49143498
Yet the last domain walker that fought lost against a shortstack that summons fuckbuddies.

Domain means nothing.

>>49143446
Conservation efforts broski, that's why dragons are still a thing on Ravnica.

>>49143498
This is true, though I imagine some flakes might beat her in sheer power.

>>49143512
Dragons are also not supposed to be a thing on Ravica.

Niv-Mizzet was supposedly the last dragon, according to the Guildpact novel. The focus of that book is that an Izzet Magelord, Zomaj Hauc, is secretly trying to resurrect and hatch some dragon eggs that he found that were meant to have hatched back in Niv's day. With the intention of using the unparalleled power of multiple dragons to take over Ravnica.

>>49143511
>Shortstack
Which one is that

>>49143536
Niv's status was reconned to "last sentient dragon" on ravnica, meaning all subsequent dragons were just animals in mind.

yo, ice age, I think discussion's stopped. What can you discern for the matchups?

>>49143631
This for sure is going to be the overnight polls.

Well, everyone. Use your best judgment, and as per every other match-up, don't let your hype cloud your ability to think it through.

The match-ups are as follows:

>Grandma Swamp VS Kikiki

>Salicia VS Leeharll

>Gaia VS Iriqi

>Thane VS Kaya

DISCUSS!

>>49143667
No disqualifications this time. Nice.

>>49143667
>Kikiki vs Gran-gran
Tough call, really tough. Gonna have to swing in favor of kikiki, as while they are both seemingly equal in magic power, gran appears to have lost a fighting will by comparison.

>Lee vs Sal
I think the vamp has this one. Race advantage and that fucking titan make for a powerful foe, though I will say Lee has some nice spells and skills.

>gaia vs-
if it ain't a monster or a big-leager, it ain't winning. It's going to take a post second round survivor to challenge even a depowered Gaia by my estimation, but it could be possible. Just not the current foe.

>Thane vs Kaya
ouch, really tough call. I think thane might have this one, but Kaya's skillset could render his power advantage less useful. Might have to toss for my vote on this one.

>>49143667

>Granny Swamp Vs Kikiki
IT'S A GOOD THING WE'RE IN A SWAMP BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT TO GET FROGGY

>Salacia Vs Leeharll
Innistrad Vampires are pretty tough customers, which means I feel like Lee is at a big disadvantage here.

>Gaia vs Iriqi
Iriqui is interesting, but I feel that even discounting meme power, Gaia is a very powerful if rusty planeswalker, and I think she would triumph here.

>Thane vs Kaya
They seem pretty evenly matched, honestly.

>>49143667
I'll think about this more in the morning. >>49143779 Has good points, but I'd like to be more awake to think this over.

>>49142644
>>49143667
POLLS!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11143081
http://www.strawpoll.me/11143084
http://www.strawpoll.me/11143085
http://www.strawpoll.me/11143087

These are going up overnight. I'll give a ten minute call before I close them up.

>>49143667
>Not fighting Gaia
Well that's a sigh of relief. Now, onto the matches:
>Grandma vs Kikiki
I do think that Kikiki has the edge. They both basically specialize in ruining people's day but Kikiki seems like he'd be faster on the draw than grandma

>Salicia VS Leeharll
To start with Salicia is stronger, faster, and more durable the Leerharll due to being an innistradi vampire.
Plus she has humans who summon demons for her. That's a plus.

>Gaia vs Iriqi
Both are dreamers, but I imagine Gaia instantly becoming a neowalker and thrust into a physical body is going to give her a hell of a slow start penalty. Still, if she has any finesse with using mana, and not just overtapping for every spell, she has a much bigger arsenal than Iriqi

>Thane VS Kaya
If I'm reading her powers right, Kaya specializes in creature magic/control type stuff, which is great. She's also blind, which is a bit of a nerf.
Thane's powers are mostly geomancy, elementals, and making the plane decide that everything in a certain area needs to stop existing.
Like other anons said, it's a really close match, but I'd have to say Thane would win due to better mobility an a more awkward powerset for her to fight against. Animals are animals, but living/mobile are a bit harder to deal with.
And I'm trying hard to not be biased.

>>49143963
You got it bro, I believe in you.

>All I want from Aether Revolt
>Midway through a story, Gideon drives up in one of the cars
>Chandra asks him where he learned to drive
>Gideon comments it's just a thing he does sometimes.

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>>49144901

>>49143667
>granny vs Kikiki
... not sure honestly, but gonna give this to Kikiki for more versatility.
>sal vs Lee
the vampire takes this, seems really too tough for lee to crack
>gaia vs Iriqi
Gaia. What the hell,really.
>thane vs kaya
... they do things that have nothing to do with each other, but I'll give this to Kaya cause Thane doesn't seem to have much in the way of mental protection.

>>49143792
I really positively need to change Kaya's name. Thanks Wotc, really.

>>49146807
Neah. You're fine. How many Williams do you think there are in the multiverse? Probably a billion Chris's too.

Is Kaladesh just really "Fast and Furious: The Set"?

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>>49147169
You talkin' shit about my Crew 2?

>>49147169
Nah, it's also got kinda sorta communism and mana=electricity artifact shenanigans.

>>49147085
None is a walker tho. I mean I am not concerned that anyone may think of Daredevil when Murdock is concerned, but having a flake walker named the same way as another canon walker may spark some confusion.

>>49147228
Like Vietnamese people oppressing the white people? And "high revving excitement"? And "Gasoline fueled" constructs?

>>49147358
>Like Vietnamese people oppressing the white people?
No, like a meritocratic society with fully government controlled resource distribution.

>>49147384
So, like the the police force who oppress the street racers who are trying to make a living off what they know best?

>>49147409
No. The government is funding the science fair, and experimental vehicles and their races are part of it.

>>49147302
Neah, you're fine. If anything, just make "Kaya" short for something.

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"Fast and Furious: The Set" Confirmed

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>>49147452

>>49147452
>the chandra i want to see
Casting overpriced shit at sorcery speed?
>>49147443
Good point actually, thanks anon.

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>>49147452
Vroom. Vroom.

>>49147468
Yeah, such a great artwork of Chandra on such a waste of a card.

That's a lot of votes.
>Thane losing.
Aw. I'm curious to people's reasoning.

So...
> we claim Emrakul
WotC confirms Emrakul.
> we claim moon prison power
WotC confirms Emprisoned in the Moon.
> we claim Lili-pad join Gatewatch
WotC confirms Lili-pad in Gatewatch
> we make a flake named Kaya
WotC confirms a Planeswalker named Kaya.
> we make a "Lich" like Planeswalker
MaRo tweets Liches aren't out of the realm of possibility for having sparks.
> we discuss a crewed Ship in the multiverse
WotC confirms new ships with Crew mechanic.
> we have huge discussion on planar portals
WotC confirms new planar portals.
> we make a Gremlin flake
WotC confirms gremlins are back.

Sounds an aweful like MaRo is among us.

>>49147514
Come on man, be a good sport!

>>49147563
>The MaRo among us
Good title if anything, though i think i saw this already.

>>49147564
Oh I am, I just like hearing people's reasoning. Alternate viewpoints are interesting.

>>49147577
Not to mention we discuss Vedalkens having he capability to move across planes. And out of he blue we get our first Vedalken Planeswalker.

>>49147594
Inb4 Iceman is MaRo and this Ice Age think is a thinly veiled market research.
>>49147587
Tits.

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Damn, I really like this Chandra artwork.

>>49147617
> inb4 Vronak anon is MaRo and we argue with him all the damn time

>>49147617
Fair enough. They admittedly look like a nice pair.

>>49147644
>That most likely brass fine detailing .
Oh that's new.

>>49147657
That would explain a lot.

>>49147676
Makes sense. His flakes are how he WANTS things to be and WotC won't allow him to have everything his way, so he posts them here instead.

>>49147714
You know during these threads i was always critic of MaRomrakul but recently it looks like he actually learned something. The last article he wrote was pretty much "what we did wrong with BFZ and SoI" and he looks like agreeing to some major complaints of the comunity.

Can healing magic restore lost limbs? How popular are magical or biological prosthetics?

>>49147778
I think that's the point of the Regenerate mechanic. But, we have Etherium prosthetics on Alara.

>>49147778
Biological prosthetics were all the rage on Ravnica during Momir Vig's Simic since they could just you cytoplast to glue a new arm to you. Some rich people even glued more than just replacements to themselves.

Then there's alara which uses etherium to give everyone psuedo mechanical limbs or bodies and a weakness to artifact destruction.

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>>49147803
>>49147790
How to represent a prosthetic limb with a card (I only know of pic related)?

>>49147855
I don't really think there are many prosthetic limb type cards. They just tend to be an aspect of the character. Like Tezzeret's arm or Daretti's wheelchair.

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>>49147855

>>49147563
>WotC confirms new planar portals.
what
explain

>>49148583
Kaladesh has planar portals. Though, in the story they have only been able to send non-living matter through them.

>>49148583
The latest ur has an elf creating a teleporter that can only do inorganic things. Vronak is just being an ass like normal.
>>49147563
You do realize they finished R&D of the set quite a while ago before you started shitting up threads with graveborn.
And the Gremlins on Kaladesh look feral and probably not capable of sparks.

>>49148792
>nonliving matter
Phyrexians aren't alive.

>>49148796
Graveborn was completed before SOI was dropped. So.... Yeah. Highly doubt that Kaladesh was completed then.

>>49148819
Yes they are.

>>49148796
can the teleporter go outside planes, or no? I wouldn't call it a planar portal unless the means of teleporting things it has is sending them outside the plane then bringing them back in on the other, which I guess kinda works like dimension door for dnd-esk games, but I don't think that would be the angle they go for it unless they explicitly state that.

>>49148831
I believe entities like phyrexian demons which are stated to be completely mechanical might count, but not anything that still requires meat to function. I wonder what phyrexian oil counts as?

>>49148879
The Glistening Oil might be a tricky one. Definitely a good discussion piece. I would assume it's a living organism because it spreads and infects in it's own accord. But, it could be a argued either way.

>>49148898
I mean, the oil could just be refined flowstone technology, which was magic nanites, which would explain how it transforms the things it touches and stores information.

>>49148820
It takes two years roughly for the set to be finished so they would have been late in it at the very least and vehicles would have been there beforehand.
Don't delude yourself.

>>49148879
It is only short distances but I believe it sends things through the blind eternities. The problem would be getting coordinates for new planes and the whole inorganic shit only.
And the power cost

>>49148988
If that is the case, then venser's research may still have hope. I wonder when this will become a plot point again? The aetherborn creature type spoiled, and the aether revolt or whatever the second set is called holds some interesting implications, since aether/aetherial are explicitly stated to mean a specific thing in the MTG settng. That said, this might have changed, the links regarding aether as a specific substance and meaning are dead with the archives change, so they'd have free reign to do with the word as they please now.

>>49148953
Two years? Shit, they barely have one set finished when the set before it launches. Otherwise we'd have so many damned spoilers ahead of time. Don't delude yourself in thinking that R&D is THAT competent and THAT capable of keeping leaks from happening years in advance. Get outta here with this non-sense.

I wanna fug Serena and have filth anon do smut of my flake!

>>49149129
Then do it, friendo.

>>49149129
I wanna cuck someone with Serena!

>>49149227
I think someone already has. :)

I just want Ice Age to wake up

>>49149236
That happened?

Also, has Rakkor gone through the rounds yet?

>>49149465
ye, and I believe he lost to an astoundingly angry minotaur

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Heh, All of the character's white cards are allies and events that happened to them, while the blue ones are the actual magic they learned.

An amusing coincidence.

>>49149511
can't drag normies through the blind eternities. If those creatures are representing people you've met, they're conjured memories of those people, because they cannot be those people proper.

>>49149563
I know, they are just allies the character has met.

Can planeswalkers even summon creatures anymore? I remember reading something saying otherwise.

>>49149587
Summoning is making a copy out of the Aether like Garruk does.

>>49143868
TEN.
MINUTE.
CALL.

If you miraculously didn't vote yet, this is your last chance.

>>49143963
>mfw I want to fuck sleepy and disoriented gaia just as she wakes up in a new body, so that the first sensation she feels is my dick and the first noise to escape her lips is a moan

>>49149620
put yo name on ya goof
also I love you welcome back

>>49149639
Yeah, yeah...

What fresh hell is this?
I wake up to make the call, and then a poll shifts into a tie at the last minute?

You sons of bitches.

>>49149685
that poll also has almost twice the amounts of votes as the others.
wat

>>49149587
Kiora has also summed creatures from the Æther as well as Ajani.

>>49149634
You creepy asshole.

>>49149700
It is not a one sided thing, so people are interested in voting. I imagine. I mean, would you vote for Gaia? We all know she is gonna win.

>>49149685
Hold on. Breaking the tie

>>49149700
We've already noted that someone is rigging the votes.

>>49149685
Fixed

>>49149722
How do you even rig this?

>>49149716
hers is currently tied

>>49149722
ffs

>>49149716
Literally how is iriqi going to win? They are both disoriented after waking up, and gaia has a huge spell and natural advantage.

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>>49142644
>>49143667
>>49143868
Well, this was some kind of chaos round. We entered a controversial flake and then their fate was determined by a coin flip.

The following flakes advance to the next round:

>Kikiki
>Salicia
>Gaia
>Thane

The next batch of flakes is as follows:

>Eifion
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxNXFrQ2l3TVFYSEU

>Selenra
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxSGROZ1VsVVhvYTQ

>Kolya
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxdk9JaHlyUDBFenM

>Ariadne
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxTzdLeDBWQXl3dlU

>Kharan
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxeXdHSDN6bEZScEU

>Ginger
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxSFdjVkxtbkZSTWs

>Ygraine
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxOWRzMl9Hel9QQzg

>Hakam
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxbVF3TU40R1ZJcVk

DISCUSS!

>>49149734
By finding ways around the IP restriction and making multiple votes.

>>49149753
>generally well liked and beloved flake advances by winning a "coin flip"

Sure. Totally what happened.

>>49149753
Awwww hell, lost for one vote... Well GG Thane-man.
>>49149759
...why would you put so much effort into this thing?

>>49149753
Aw man. My computer is acting up and my vote wasn't counted. That's ok, tho, cause the flake I was voting for won anyway.

>>49149759
You really are constantly butthurt about your flakes dropping out.

>>49149774
As I've said before, I don't care whose flakes they are or how bad they are.

I even have an anti-meme clause in the rules.

If the game ends up a tie, I let luck determine who advances so as to remain unbiased.

>>49149781
Why would someone argue on the internet about something they know very little about?

Hint: Their lives are insignificant and need the attention and drama.

>>49149774
I mean, do you really think Iriqi could have won? I like her, but she's outpaced on every front here.

>>49149787
Nope. I just don't like people spouting out false info. It affects everyone else who wants to do something that would actually be fully within canon. But, when people claim otherwise, it takes away from their creativity.

I've actually voted against my flakes numerous times. I really don't care who wins or loses.

>>49149753
these all seeeeeeem to check out, none of them have secondary material? Huh, ok.

>>49149808
Welp man, it is not a kind thing to say. People are just having fun here, come one.
Furthermore, it is not like I am arguing. I took Kaya's defeat with quiet, dignity and grace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUifcQ3QO_k

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>>49147189
Your Crew is Bad and you should feel bad!

>>49149634
Lewd

>>49149781
GG indeed. It was close. I honestly thought it was yours several times.

>>49149866
>dem horns
Talk about overcompensating. Is that from an actual card?

>>49149861
I love you sometimes, Murdy.

>>49149894
that's an artist's rendition of Surtr, one of the few beings to actually win at ragnarok

>>49149753
Honestly, they all seem good to me. Granted, I just woke up and am hungover, so I could be wrong.

Also, damn that was close.

>>49149476
Dio rival or the freedom fighter?

>>49149933
the evil one

>>49149915
>actually win at ragnarok
With those horns? Tough luck not getting stuck in Yggdrasil's lower branches.
Cool tho.

>>49149917
Not to keep talking about the last matchup too much, but now that gaia has had a chance to wake up and orient herself, how much more formidable will she be next round.

>>49149753
I see no need for disqualifications this round and see no arguments for it.

The match-ups are as follows:

>Ygraine VS Kolya

>Eifion VS Kharan

>Selenra VS Hakam

>Ginger VS Ariadne

DISCUSS!

>>49150064
fivemidable at least
still probably able to be beaten by something like a giant or a dragon especially a time wizard dragon who let that thing through what the fuck,but it won't be easy.

>>49150064
Why treat any following rounds differently? It's not like there's an actual passage of time happening in this weird battle vacuum.

>>49150100
I dunno, anon. I bet she's got a super formidable arsenal of spells after all those years travelling the multiverse. It'll be a good match, tho.

>>49149753
Okay, one question: The joke sheet calls Ginger a reverse trap. But the sheet keeps referring to Ginger as "he" and "girlish." Isn't that a regular trap? Or is "he" basically a girl pretending to be a boy even on the bio?
No arguments on anyone though.

>>49150146
That makes sense as a sort of "They revert back to the state they were in before the fight" type of rule, but I find the idea that Gaia is slowly waking up through the matches hilarious.

>>49150141
Because I feel it would be unfair to gaia anon if we consistently nuked her flake with the "she's sleepy and can't weild magic well because of it" excuse. I mean, none of the other flakes have been subject to a condition like that which is so heavily based on their story narrative. Why should she?

>>49150184
I dunno.

Every flake definitely is equalized by at least having no prep time though. That's detrimental to some of them, at least.

>>49150091
>Ygraine vs Kolya
I'm pretty sure the giant with strong anti-air punts the angelmage around a bit. She's not as tough as the other giants, but golly if she isn't well suited for taking out fliers.

>Eifion vs Kharan
the elf has a little bite, but I'm gonna have to go with Kharan on this one. Having the skill to hunt down dragons is more impressive than being a prick from shadowmoor.

>Selenra vs Hakam
I think Selenra has this one, her loadout looks like she's very well protected against wizards of average power, and goddamn if she ain't battle-ready. Take a look at her pic, she's seen so much blood she's confused by it.

>Ginger vs Ariadne
gigner can only run for so long, the big buff angel-puff has this.

>>49150199
And that's fine. But not having prep time and being unable to cast because you just got out of a coma feel like two completely different conditions to me. It's like she's being penalized more than equalized.

>>49149753
>>49150091
POLLS!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11145830
http://www.strawpoll.me/11145831
http://www.strawpoll.me/11145832
http://www.strawpoll.me/11145833

Gonna head out for... About an hour and a half or so? I'll post a ten-minute call before they close.

>>49150227
>>49150199
guys, guys
round at hand, not last round
who do you think will win and why?

>>49150091
As for the match-ups:
>Ygraine VS Kolya
I almost gave this match to Kolya, figuring the angel and human combo would be enough to overwhelm the giant.
Then I realized Ygraine specifically likes to drop flyers. AA Giant wins.

>Eifion VS Kharan
Eifion has a decent powerset by Kharan is a dragon/big beast hunter, and a really good one at that, which seems like an exact counter to Eifion's beast magic

>Selenra VS Hakam
Hakam is an illusionist and if he's had combat training, he seems out of practice. Selenra wears heavy antimage armor and has seen enough blood she can give people bloodworks just by looking at it.

>Ginger VS Ariadne
Discounting Ariadne's sword of war and peace, Ginger runs really fast and is a waifish boy? Girl? While Ariadne is and summons angels. That air advantage heavily counteracts the speed difference

>>49150276
Oh, FFS. This is what I get for juggling threads.
Those polls are legit though, I'll see you guys in a bit.

Just a few more sets of flakes after this and we can move on to Round Two.

>>49150317
Isn't kharan a massive coward?

>>49150690
"Somewhat of a coward"
So he's not "Can't block warriors" tier, but he'll probably fold out earlier than most flakes

At least, that's how I understand it.

>>49150064
Like others have said, that's a conversation for the next round. But probably a lot more formidable. I mean, it's the difference between someone in a coma, and someone who's awake, has a gun, and knows very well how to use that gun.

>>49150091
>Ygraine vs Kolya
Well, Ygraine is a giant. So she automatically starts with a huge natural advantage. But natural advantage isn't everything. And Kolya has experience fighting bigger, tougher opponents. Still, I'll give this one to Ygraine, since she seems to have a more formidable spell arsenal combined with a better natural advantage.

>Eifion vs Kharan
This one is very close. Both flakes have combat experience and decently powered spells. I'm genuinely tied on this one. Maybe Kharan, since he specializes in killing more?

>Selenra vs Hakam
While I really really like Selenra, if I'm being honest I think Hakam would take it. While Selenra is likely the better warrior, I think Hakam could shut down most of her casting pretty quick, and he has the advantage of the skies. Still, it would be a good fight.

>Ginger vs Ariadne
Like someone said, Ginger is a runner, not a fighter. He'd run out of steam eventually, and then Ariadne, with superior combat ability and flying, would pick him off from the skies.

>>49150276
TEN MINUTE CALL.

WRAP UP YOUR VOTING.

>>49152017
OH
YEAAAAAAAAH

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>>49149753
>>49150091
>>49150276
I swear, this is the most one-sided set we've ever had.

The following flakes advance to the next round:

>Ygraine
>Kharan
>Selenra
>Ariadne

The next batch of flakes is as follows:

>The ROCK [DISQUALIFIED: Un-Flake]
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxcDBhRTVhaEpfRUk

>Rinteller
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxSkFnTUZ3UFdvNkk

>Myxxzzikt
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxZGI3VElKamJMM28

>The Confidant [DISQUALIFIED: Somehow travels planes with no spark.]
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxV1JWUE9QOTFoeVE

>Murdock
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxSVF1Q1lTd1R6Nzg

>Rinara [DISQUALIFIED: Purple Mana isn't a thing.]
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxVFlDT0Mwb2ktMlk

>Ninki
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxS0VXSGxNeThGMWs

>Ylia
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxQWpOQTdVZTE0Q0E

DISCUSS!

>>49152142
I believe the Confidant's deal was that it possesses people and only plaeswalks if it is possessing a planeswalker. I'm not quite sure about her, because there is the onakke situation with lilianna.

I was gonna have a cow at one of the other entries, but the story checks out, so she can stay.
I think that's it as far as my opunion is concerned.

>>49152142
I
I think that's all the commentary you're getting

>>49152142
I kinda want to give my peace about that one thing said earlier. I know I will be shouted down but I want to make this view heard too.

If we let Gaia to have waking up prep time, everyone else should get it too. No reason to give special treatment to her. Thats why I propose that no one gets prep time and they are treated as they were in the first round. Thats how no one gets any benefits and has atleast some equal footing. Especially since I know that some flakes would just absolutely break the whole fucking thing if given prep time. We are trying to be equal here, right?

>>49152771
It's not a matter of Gaia getting prep time, friend, but that people factored her just waking up from the plane into the conflict, even though there was no guarantee that she would've just woken up. It was counting story elements in combat. Gaia wasn't starting at round one, but round -3. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, we already agree that we start with no prep time. Does that make sense? Gaia had no prep time, but the way it sounded by how people were describing it, it sounds like she was spending the first few rounds just getting used to her new body.

>>49152142
The match-ups are as follows:

>Rinara VS The Confidant
Amazingly, both flakes are disqualified.

>Ylia VS Rinteller

>Myxxzzikt VS Murdock

>Ninki VS the ROCK
Ninki gets a bye to the next round as the result of the ROCK's disqualification.

DISCUSS!

>>49153378
>disqualifying The Rock
I got half a mind of retiring.

>>49153378
>Ylia vs Rinteller
Once again, a good matchup. They have a similar loadout and battleskill. But in the end, I'm going to go with the minotaur because of her natural advantage and size.

>Myxxzzikt vs Murdock
The bug deals mostly with counterspells and illusion/mind magic. He's also about an 8 ft mantis, sooo. But at the same time, Murdock has some serious aggro going. Really, it's a tossup. I'd have to ask Murdock anon if she can be overcome easily by mind games. If that's the case, I might give it to the bug.

>>49153568
Murdock hasn't been doing mind game to Serena all the time?

>>49153552
Meme magic won't save you here. Also, silver-bordered anything gets you disqualified.

>>49153378
>Ylia vs Rinteller
Yila's pretty much got the exact same powerset, but slightly better and with race advantage. Yila gets this fight
>Yila is Rinteller but stronger

>Myxxzzikt vs Murdock
Murdock might be a bit of a coward, and may not last more than a couple rounds, but murdock's magic power greatly exceeds that of the bug. That, in addition to having battlefield experience (even if half of it is fleeing), means that she outclasses the bug in combat. Murdock gets this one.

>>49150091
>>49152142
>>49153378
>Skotonos gets put up against the dragon-punching giantess.
>Ginger gets put up against one of the devastatingly powerful angel flakes.
>Stuzec gets a reasonable match-up and has every reason to lose it.
>Ninki gets a pass when she has every reason to lose absolutely every fight against anyone.
>Inzhu gets a pass instead of getting to show off how powerful cloning magic can be.

Unsatisfying outcomes but I admit that all of those flakes (excluding Inzhu) are pretty low-powered and that's how the dice rolls work.

>>49153735
and this is only just the beginning

>>49153735
We've even had non-combat flakes fight each other.

It's luck of the draw, and we're almost done with the round. There will be no more byes starting in Round Two, only FIGHTS.

>>49152142
>>49153378
Polls!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11148087
http://www.strawpoll.me/11148088

>>49153378
>Ylia vs Rin
Basically the same flakes in terms of alignment and spells, but the minotaur is just as stronger if not more and Rinteller doesn't speak of being incredibly more cunning. Giving this to Ylia, but not sure.


>Myxxzzikt vs Murdock
I am not willing to judge cause one is my flake. However if asked >>49153568
I'd say that it all depends on if Murdock can cast anything that eradicates spells from Myx's mind before he can cast his own mind controls, or just burn him to death before he can act. If anything, Murdock has a slightly bigger set of skills to draw from.

>>49153806
[ANGERFISH INTENSIFIES]
but sweet, ok.

>>49153854
aw yiss

>>49153857
This is true. If I voted in polls for my own flakes, I'd probably vote for Murdock.

>>49153893
Also Murdock deserves nothing from life on account of how much of a bitch she is so she should lose hard

>>49153854
Ten Minute Call!

WRAP UP YER VOTIN'

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>>49152142
>>49153378
>>49153854
The following flakes advance to the next round:
>Ylia
>Murdock
>Ninki

The next batch of flakes is as follows:

>Ka'Koarm
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxdGYxbF9rWGJMdHM

>Kahomat
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxRnhjdGFLVm1hRmM

>Bianca
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxdEJwS2xlTzlTclk

>Wyston
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxMDgyTEMtVFdNNms

>Sajek
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxMWhvZmJsdWtlbDQ

>Leon
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxeENKVF91bFlZdDQ

>Angelica
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxLTNLRGpQeVFONDg

>Iohannes IV
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxanM0bkRmSi1xSlU

DISCUSS!

>>49154274
you forgot kakoarm's writefag stuff, his flake sheet doesn't include his size

>>49154274
>Ka'koarm
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwl7IuoVRkFxSUFtWmplck9waGs/view?usp=sharing

ARE RAKSHASAS LIVING BEINGS OR NOT

>>49154274
Wyston is a 4th of july joke flake, toss'm

Iohannes is undead without understandable reason for why he would not be rejected by the spark, toss'm

>>49154330
Ka'koarm uses his own made-up magic that's pretty much reality warping and has time travel in his story, toss'm

>tfw huge Egyptaboo
>want to be an Amonkheti walker but we know literally nothing
>won't know anything for a fucking year

Feels sad. What's a good plane for a Sphinx to be from? Are sphinxes on every plane?

>>49154349
They're demons so probably not.

>>49154393
>Wyston
I made him for 4th of July, sure, but he was also built to be a legitimate flake instead of just a joke character..

>>49154399
theros is a good one
>>49154349
no

>>49154274
Ka'Koarm seems a bit off to me.

>>49154399
http://magiccards.info/query?q=t%3Asphinx
Then just figure out where the sphinx is from.

>>49154400
>>49154420

But then why differentiate them from regular Sidikur demons? I'm holding out hope they're like the living vampires.

>>49154424
I don't get the problem. He is a giant triton, but we had a regular giant already.

>>49154429
>none of the Sphinxes are anything other than monoblue, U/W, or Esper

fugg

I just want a Sultai or Jeskai Sphinx

>>49153584
Yes, but not with magic. Only driving her crazy through her special spot.

>>49154482
Was more talking about the reality bending shit, he's pretty eldrazi desu.

>>49154526
Safe to say we can still allow him to fight as a giant, angry lava-spewing merfolk then.

>>49154274
Just letting everyone know. Angelica is a Changeling-Mutant with an acidic body. If she even touches living matter, she'll start to dissolve it.

Ka'koarm's anon here, wanting to defend myself. State problems here that I can discuss them. I only have this one chance to participate, and I don't want to lose it before even round 1.

>>49154572
You say this as though we can't read.
Or rather that you want to especially make a defensive point about the character.

Save it for the match-up discussions, man.

>>49154601
Most people here can't read. And I'm not going to defend characters or even vote. Just throwing it out there for those who don't take the time to read the profile. And there are some that don't.

>>49154439
Because the regular demons can go anywhere, see the Mardu one, but the Rakshasa are specifically working with the Sultai/Silumgar and have specific antics from regular demons.

>>49154598
He seems to bend reality, mainly unliving matter and possibly biology through nothing but sheer willpower.
While cool sounding, it also brings to mind what Emrakul was up to on Innistrad, minus the assimilation plot. Plus the word choice is odd because it makes it sound like it doesn't run on mana. That last point could just be me misreading things.

>>49154572
So you're saying you can't fuck it?

>>49154725
Are you really letting such a small thing as flesh-eating acids stop you?

>>49154725
You could. You might regret it though... or you'll need the multiverse's greatest condom.

>>49154652
It very much runs on mana. His source of power is mainly red mana, applied in black/blue fuckery ways, but only to the extent of what the cards imply he can. This leads to his major weakness, his main mana source relates to his strong/violent emotion. If someone shuts him down mentally, mindsculpting, madness or through means like pacifism, he loses all ability to cast, because he loses connection to his red source.

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>>49154768
Got you covered.

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>Unquestioned authority.
That'd probably work, but at the same time that's a questionable condom of the "I'm not going to get burned because I SAY I'm not type."
Sane people prefer to wear a condom made of ghosts. It even helps you last longer and preform better where it counts

>>49154846
Then you can't fuck it. They won't be able to take the D.

>>49154800
Fair enough

Ice Age, Ka'koarm anon here, if you're monitoring. What points do you think open me up for disqualification that you would like to see my defense for before deciding?


>>49155006
He has other weaknesses. Mainly, he can't into time magic, he has no grasp of it, and when pitted against flakes of equal size he's functionally a R/B brawler/counter-caster because all his black goes into very minor things and he has no ranged red capabilities, no elementalism at all. I'm not sure how he'd fair against a swarm caster, I'd like to think he's tough enough to take it, but if he's faced with a swarmer that has already beaten several other flakes he might be in trouble.

>>49155098
*R/U, not R/B
as said, black is his least represented color spell-wise, on equal footing his black spells mean much less than they do compared to his red.

>>49155098
He sounds good to me. How big do you think he is compared to the average werewolf on Innistrad?

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>>49155201
Forgot my picture

>>49155201
he is larger, his folder in the repository has an art resource that shows his size compared to a normal human

>>49155228
How did I miss that
>30'
Jesus that's a lot of fish serpent.

>>49155269
Five humans as it turns out, about the size of a dragon, but not quite the size of a sea-serpent proper, which was the intent. He's very big, but there are things that can be flakes as large or larger. Ugin is stated as 40' tall, but I don't actually know if that means his length or his standing height, whereas in Ka's situation it is from horn-tip to tail-tip length.

Is Ka'koarm the only flake right now that has any concern among the thread?

What exactly is the problem?

>>49155317
I'm not really having a problem with him, just getting some info cleared up to paint a better picture.

>>49155269
>>49155301
if he stands "upright", which is to say he uses some of his body to imitate leg length and poses like a lamia/naga, he stands about 12' tall, which is less intimidating.

>>49155317
people have mentioned others, but the real concern is Ka's magic, which builds off of a flavor I saw in blue/black and a tiny bit in red, of fucking around with what is real, and mixing it with a blue/red/black flavor of strong emotion and will being used to have effects on your surroundings. It seemed like a perfect combo, but I suppose I didn't explain it well enough.
Long story short Ka'koarm dies to pacifism.

>>49155098
Just to ease everyone's minds here, is that thing about will and desires just meant to represent the method by which that flake casts in their colors?

>>49155411
pretty much, will/rage based mana is what powers the magic, but it's for the most part just blue/black meta shenanigans.

I'm not seeing any more problems.

Everyone has ten minutes to make last arguments before I reveal the match-ups.

>>49155495
King Iohannes IV is undead

>>49155495
sweet jesus, thank you

>>49154274
This thread is dying.

The match-ups are as follows:

>Kahomat VS Leon

>Ka'Koarm VS Sajek

>Bianca VS Angelica

>Wyston VS Iohannes IV

DISCUSS!

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>tfw no rakshasa walker

>>49155652
Hah, the two flakes with made-up magic are fighting

>>49155652
>Wizened revolutionary vs Undead King

Fucking perfect.

>>49155652
>Kahomat vs Leon
Wow, tough call. I might have to favor Leon here, but these guys are pretty solidly matched.

>Ka vs Sa
Oh boy, right out the gates and already trouble. What are Sajek's memory manipulation capabilities? Can she delete memory freely? I was hoping to wait to fight a flake that interacts with the mind, but it seems I have to do so now. Thanks RNG.

>Bianca vs Angelica
A-are these made by the same person? They're pretty evenly skilled, have similar fonts and similar card layouts. I think the Angelica has this fight by physical superiority, but their magical power is fairly equal.

>Wyston vs Iohannes
AMERICA VS THE SKELETONS YEEEAAAAAAAHHH
honestly though, they seem to have the same magical power, but Iohannes appears to have more martial spell focus and the whole no vital organs to poke or prod thing going for him, so I think this fight's gonna go Vietnam for Wyston.