Stat me /tg/

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Like Samus, but less so.

>>49136515
Most annoying ball form in multi-player on the DS/10

>>49139252
Weavel with a competent player will lock down an entire room. Sylux is a close second for me if you know how to chaim bomb properly.

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>>49139647
Metroid thread on /tg/? Long time no see.

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Space pirates: Possibly the most PC alien race?

>>49136652
The Volt Driver apparently uses the planet's electromagnetic field to launch multi-Terawatts of energy his enemy. I wonder what this says about Metroid's weapons considering how this weapon is one of the weaker damage-wise.

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>>49140169
At the same time, you have regular non-mutant bottom-feeder-scavangers surviving blasts from samus arm cannon. I don't thing one should look too closely on power levels or numbers in metroid.

>>49140204
The Power Beam isn't so strong though. The Plasma Beam & Charge Beam make it far better.

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>>49140169
Metroid actually gets fairly ridiculous if you look.

>The Judicator approaches Absolute Zero
>The Annihilator Beam is a matter-antimatter weapon
>Self destruct systems on space stations can vaporize planets
>Apparently the Speed Booster upgrade is based on a natural Chozo ability to run faster than the speed of sound
>See above but also the Morph Ball

>In Metroid Prime the planet Zebes has a listed mass of 4.8 trillion teratons, giving it a mass and therefore gravity over 860 times greater than Earth
>Samus was running around under 860 times Earth's gravity at 3 years old

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>>49141477
People in the comics have frozen suns, Hunters took place at literally another galaxy, implying spacecraft like Samus' ship can travel distances that far at negligible times, not to mention the life forms themselves. Even baby Metroids need to be frozen & 5 missiles or 5 power bombs & the X-Parasites are just freaky.

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>>49136515
Metroid Prime Hunters 2 when!!! It was my life. I have 2 copies of the game, both 5 star hunters.

>That secret MP3 ending with Sylux's ship following samus
>still no follow up, and we've had Other M and Fed Force to deal with

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>>49142669
Didn't Samus tank a nuke in that comic?

>>49143219
Given the freaky shit she does, I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

I played the game constantly for like 2 years, and my tier list would be like this:

God Tier:

Sylux (alt form is nearly uncatchable and can one hit kill. Ultimate hit and run)

Trade (purely for getting easy access to the Imperialist on every stage)

Noxus (ONLY if using the unlimited range freeze glitch. Near instant death from anywhere that even goes through cover)

Top Tier:

Samus (Incredibly strong and fast alt form that can do crazy damage while immune to head shots. Missiles are extremely common, powerful, and her homing ability with them makes them devastating at range)

Mid Tier:

Noxus (without glitch: can do devastating damage with good map awareness. Solid alt lets him escape fairly well)

Spire (Magmaul does solid damage, and can hide somewhat with wall climbing ability in alt)

Kanden (Rapid fire Volt Drivers with good aim can do scary damage. His alt form sucks and he can't escape for shit sadly)

Low Tier:

Weavel (Battlehammer has the weakest dps, and his alt form actually makes him easier to kill by halving his hp. If both players have high level aim and map knowledge, Weavel is always at a massive disadvantage)

>>49136515
I just realized we never did get any stats.

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>no one wants to stat Kanden
Fine, stat Sylex then.

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>>49143734
Like Samus, but less so.

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>>49143734
>relatively popular/10

>>49143612
>Low
>Weavel

You've must have never had some cheeky fuck put the turret inside the walls of Combat Hall

>>49141477
>>In Metroid Prime the planet Zebes has a listed mass of 4.8 trillion teratons, giving it a mass and therefore gravity over 860 times greater than Earth
>>Samus was running around under 860 times Earth's gravity at 3 years old
That's generally assumed to be a misplaced decimal point. If you read it as billions instead of trillions, it comes out to slightly less than Earth's gravity, which is a much more reasonable figure.

>>49145314

Yeah, a slightly reduced gravity would explain how a lot of the floating aliens can, how those jumpers jump that way, how the Chozo can run faster than sound and how Mother Brain's battle form can support her head with that tiny neck.

>>49143734
Stand Name: Lockjaw
Stand Master: Sylux
Power: A
Speed: A
Range: E
Durability: C
Precision: D
Federation Hateboner: A

desu I want more of Trace's species. They seem like a pretty big deal in setting, but we know fuckall about them. A major enemy empire that isn't Space Pirates would be a nice change of pace as well.

>>49143219
Boba Fett is a shit

All I remember from that game was using Noxus due to the freeze gun being able to kill people who tried to do bullshit like using a glitch to hide inside a wall
It was an okay game, but I really wouldn't go out of my way to play a DS shooter

>>49143734
We're never going to get a follow up to this guy story are we?

>>49146326
I actually thought it was one of the feworld good DS shooters that came out. I also have that thumb strap that came with the original DS with the little plastic bit which made controlling the game pretty comfortable

>>49143734
Made me think my screen was dirty/10

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Stat me /tg/

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>>49150163
Lake samus, but less so.

>>49150163
Crotch cannon/10

>>49139896
Pretty sure Metroid Prime happened on it's own?
Maybe the Chozo's fault, but definitely not the Space Pirates.

>Possibly the most PC alien race?
Races plural, otherwise yes.

>>49143207
Federation Force is extremely light on exploration, and is only passable for solo play,
but the mechanics and controls feel closer to the Metriod: Prime games than Hunters did.

>>49142669
There's a character in F-Zero that's basically a Samus expy.
Actually, most F-Zero chaarcters are expys, it helps to think of Metroid and F-Zero as sharing a setting.

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>>49143219
>gun touching head
>pulls away to shoot

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>>49153153
I thought they were one race (except for a few of the leaders), just that they bio- and cybermodded the hell out of themselves first chances they get.

>>49150163
Can walk on his arms/10

>>49143612
Weavel could clip out of the walls on just about every single map.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I can only thin of *one* spot on *one* map where most of the other characters could.
Dude was fucking invincible if you were an asshole.

>>49153399
"Zebesian" Space Pirates are explicitly a separate race, not just a separate strain.
>they bio- and cybermodded the hell out of themselves first chances they get.
All of the Space Pirates do this too, so their race often gets really ambiguous.

>>49153439
As someone who played Hunters on its prime (since release actually), Weavel's main strats are either having godly aim or noclipping the turret and jump around like a monkey on speed slashing people or baiting them into your turret. The latter was the most used because even with good aim, the battlehammer was weak as all kinds of hell (and being an arcing weapon, it was also harder to aim than the moulder thing from Spire, this was only better because of afterburn damage)
So yeah, in combat hall, you become weavel, go to that corner with the little rocks and noclip yourself inside a wall and get free kills.
God i miss this game, so much fun.

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>>49153153
In the NA version of Metroid Prime, the Space Pirates managed to capture the Metroid Prime briefly and tried to study it, but it broke containment and absorbed some of their weapons and defense screens. This was meant to explain why it had seemingly mechanical weapons and constantly shifted its weaknesses, but gave rise to the plot hole of the Metroid Prime somehow getting through the Chozo forcefield around the Impact Crater.

Meanwhile the PAL and Trilogy versions replace some of the lore scans so that the Space Pirates merely detected that Metroid Prime existed but never actually encountered it. So nobody got through the forcefield but now Metroid Prime has mysterious weapons and shields. IIRC these versions are the ones considered canon, so yeah the Space Pirates had nothing to do with it.

>>49153399
It's ambiguously both. The ones in the Prime series are unexplained but very different, while most 2D games will have Zebesians but also other species like Kihunters that are also considered Space Pirates.

>>49153973
>They are known for stealing galactic trading ships and leaving the crews stranded in space
>leaving the crews stranded in space
>stranded
>IN SPACE

So is it a nice way of saying that they space them or are they left sitting on random asteroids waving at passing starships?

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>>49154062 Presumably the survive.
Leaves more opportunity to steal from them in the future.
And leaving them on-board allows better evidence disposal.

>>49153399
>>49153486
>>49153973
Personally, I think it's a pretty cheap retcon to justify having all the Space Pirates in the Prime games look nothing like the Zebesian ones in the main games. I'd have preferred if they had done something nice with those ones instead of going in their own weird aesthetic direction.

Then again, it's also kind of questionable to have an entire species of space pirates. At first you could say that they're just the main species of this one particular pirate crew, but apparently that's literally what the species is called. Even though every other species has a name that sounds like an actual species name.

Hold on. What if the pirates are called "pirates" because of all the gene modding they do? They aren't really just one "species" at all, they're a group that gives themselves whatever genes they find useful for their purpose. They don't just steal resources and technology from other races, they hunt them for their DNA to find new and useful bioforms to incorporate into future pirate generations. That's why they're a species of Space Pirates. And that's why they're interested in Samus, the last Chozo warrior.

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>>49154780
>I'd have preferred if they had done something nice with those ones
The general implication is that the Space Pirates on Zebes wear a lot of (biological?) (grafted?) armor.
If art is anything to go by, then the Space Pirates in Prime 1 were (pre-retcon?) intended to be the same guys.
>instead of going in their own weird aesthetic direction.
I liked the "pull off armor and downgrade them into weaker enemies types then kill them once they're the weakest type" thing myself.
The insect aesthetic was kind of weird though.

>And that's why they're interested in Samus, the last Chozo warrior.
You can't go 10 yards on a Chozo planet without kicking up a tomb.
Plus, they *literally* had a Chozo in their High Command at one point.
I'm sure they've got plenty of Chozo DNA on file.

>>49153399
They've got multiple "Homeworlds".
That might just be Nintendo misusing the term, but I would assume each Space Pirate "species" has it's own Homeworld.

>>49139896
>the most PC alien race
Similar taste in pets, even.

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>>49155312
Minidump end.

>>49153399
Isn't that concept art for a kihunter?

>>49155312
Samus, why are you walking like that?

>>49155657
It's some sort of metroid prime concept art. I don't think it was used, but I only played the first and half of echoes so I'm not sure.

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Stat me tg. <3

>>49156885
Like Samus, but less so.

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>>49157032
Made me smile, anon.

>>49155657
Is Weavel a kihunter?

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>>49157344
Difficult to say, since he's a full-body cyborg and all. It is stated that he was injured fighting Samus in brinstar, so kihunter is a possibility.
Actually, were there any "normal" Zebesian space pirates in brinstar?I don't think there were, so probably a kihunter then.

>>49157344
Weavel is a cyborg with a wang cannon. He could have started as any of the pirate races.

>>49157406
I think it's a retcon. The series tends to do that. The Omega Metroid from Fusion was nowhere alike the other ones judging by how you kill it with only the Ice Beam & no Super Missiles. In fact, it looks like Fusion retconned it so cold is a Metroid's #1 weakness.

>>49157416
>tfw you will never play a Metroid Prime Hunters 2 which has separate story modes for each of the different hunters

>>49157344 >>49157406
If nothing else, Weavel's armor has a kihunter aesthetic.

>>49157445
Prime 3 and Federation Force both have Sylux show up in the ending cutscene.
If nothing else he will be relevant in an upcoming game.

>>49157609
I just hope that we see more of Metroid Prime. If the virtual console Hunters is successful enough, we might even see a Wii U Hunters 2.

>>49155199
>>instead of going in their own weird aesthetic direction.
>I liked the "pull off armor and downgrade them into weaker enemies types then kill them once they're the weakest type" thing myself.
>The insect aesthetic was kind of weird though.
They were always rather arthropod looking.

>>49155682
She's playing music in her helmet and snapping to the tune.

>>49157609
>>49157876
Iirc Sylux was confirmed to be the focal point for Prime 4, if it were to ever be made which it won't be.

>>49150781
Looks to be more hip mounted.

>>49157609
>Prime 3 and Federation Force both have Sylux show up in the ending cutscene.
>If nothing else he will be relevant in an upcoming game.
I need to play Prime 3 at some point but have no Nintendo consoles anymore

Hell Prime 1 as well i think the only one I've played all the way through was Prime 2. (Even got close to the 100% ending.)

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>>49157406
>Actually, were there any "normal" Zebesian space pirates in brinstar?
There were not, but Samus kills two there in one of the manga.
That said, the Brinstar kihunters are the ones that match Weavel's aesthetic.
But the real question remains: Was he a kihunter? Or a Zero?
Are Zero even sentient? Do they go to kihunter school?

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>>49142669
>baby Metroids need to be frozen
they don't need to be frozen in the best metroid games

Freezing them just makes killing them easier. Concussive force on its own does work, just less efficiently. Other Meme be fucking damned.

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>>49158096
Metroids have a lot of different strains depending on where they're raised. Prime Metroids are known the Tallon strain and they're weaker than Zebes Metroids.

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>>49158008
That's just gubbinz.

>>49158001
He was drawn to attention in the game that was released not 3 weeks ago.
He might not be the focal point for "Prime 4", but he'll be a focal point for an upcoming Metroid game.

>>49158043
At the end of Prime 3 his ship (a new one, but his aesthetic and confirmed to be him) shows up and follows Samus after she flies off.
At the end of Federation Force he steals a Metroid while deep inside the base testing really shit prototype equipment based off of Samus's tech.

How is FedForce anyway?

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>>49158188
Zebes metroids aren't natural. They've been extensively mutated by the space pirates, and in super they're all heavily engineered clones of the infant metroid.

I can't remember if larval metroids on SR388 required freezing, but I'm pretty sure ice wasn't required to beat the game (since you could only have one beam upgrade at a time).

>>49153439
I think there was only one map where he could very easily reach a place that no other character could (Combat Hall). On those he'd go up a tier. But for the most part, I don't think it was too useful. Definitely not as strong as Noxus's almighty "shadow freeze" glitch.

>>49158286 Mechanics are alright, feels like a Metroid Prime game.
No real exploration though. It's all short instances, decent level design at least.
Definitely better in multiplayer player, but single player isn't awful.

And just about every single thing besides the mechanics are fucked to hell and back.

>>49158313 None of the Metroids are natural.
The Chozo created them from scratch as a counter measure to the X parasites.

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>>49158392
let me rephrase

Zebes metroids aren't chozo original. They're bootleg copies made by hitting metroids with gamma rays until they split. Presumably that's why they cannot be harmed unless frozen, though that's more likely just a abstraction for the sake of gameplay, since Mother Brain was perfectly capable of killing THE BABY with an energy weapon despite its obvious mutation.

>>49158479
Aren't the Zebesians supposed to be patterned off Ridley?

>>49158502
He's apparently the 'original Zebesian', but we don't really know what that means. It could be that he was once indigenous, or he was the general in charge of taking the planet.

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>>49158502
Are they?

I know they're supposed to be clones, but has ridley ever been straight up linked to them? also they're not cute enough to be patterned off of him

>>49146245
>I want more of Trace's species
Seconding this.

>They seem like a pretty big deal in setting
They were a big deal in the Tetra Galaxy, but only Hunters takes place there.

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>>49158577
Ugh, why the fuck would the GFed even clone Ridley in the first place?
Particularly going off Other M's fast and loose canon, where he's apparently been a mindless animal this whole time yet has managed to fuck the GFed's shit twice up on pure instinct anyway.

I swear they had several someones high on on the command chain huffing Space Pirate juice just to make sure Sakamoto's boner for Weyland-Yuanti and their awful ideas got sufficiently stroked.

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>>49158594
Were the Kriken from the Tetra Galaxy?
I thought only Trace was there.

>>49158751
Because he's fucking cute. Look at that wagging tail.

I'll rag on a lot about that game, but the designs were pretty great, federation troops aside.

>>49158751
According to the files in Other M, they didn't know it was Ridley. Some insane mad scientist just decided "Hey Samus must have some blood or guts of some super-strong monster we can augment the fuck out of for military purposes" & cloned some shit. One of the results was that little bird they thought was harmless & just kept as a housepet. The Federation were the same psychopaths thinking of militarizing the X-Parasites & cloning Metroids so clearly they're insane enough.

>>49157985
Yeah, I can see it. Works for me!

>>49158479
Why did the baby/Super Metroid get so huge, anyway? Shouldn't it have evolved into an Alpha, Beta, etc. instead of just getting really big in it's infant form?

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>>49158952
>Why did the baby/Super Metroid get so huge, anyway?
nintendo power has all the answers you need

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>>49158952
Metroids can't follow their natural metamorphosis path outside of SR388's environment. All that energy-food just made Super Baby grow really huge.

>>49158989
>IN SPADES
This being a 90s comic, I was expecting actual assault and battery with a shovel. I'm disappointed now.

Who AM2R here?

The Torizo through me for a fucking loop. I didn't expect the second form at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL9EqBQHI08

>>49158930
>Some insane mad scientist just decided "Hey Samus must have some blood or guts of some super-strong monster we can augment the fuck out of for military purposes"
They weren't insane, there job was to try check everything they could get a hold of for potential weapon use.

>>49158751
It definitely said Ridley was instinctually clever and cowardly, but did it really say Ridley was mindless? Because that would definitely have been a retcon.

>>49159032
It's okay, but that's about it. Wish it borrowed more from SR388/Super Metroid instead of Zero Mission.

also the metroid battle music is fucking terrible. A faithful recreation of the gameboy music, sure, but still fucking terrible.

>>49159073
Honestly I found it to be a tie for my favorite 2D Metroid between in and Fusion, but different strokes for different folks I guess.

>>49159101
I mean I love zero mission. I also love metroid 2. They're my two favorite games in the series.

I just don't dig am2r that much, even if I know it's not bad.

>>49158751
No, Sakamoto is actually so bad what we see in OtherM is what they managed to restrain him from fucking up harder. He's like George Lucas, when he doesn't have somebody telling him 'no that is stupid' we get the edited versions of Star Wars and OtherM

>>49159151
I just can't play the original Metroid 2 for any length, as its ear rape for me in a number of places. Say what you will about AM2R's Metroid battle music tracks, but the original was just straight up unpleasant.

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>>49159206
Like Vlad Tepes but less so.

>>49159044
Little Bird Ridley was actually pretty smart. It broke free by tricking the scientists to think it was defenceless before eating them, got the Kihunters to attack Samus so they'd be too dead to stop him from eating their honey, etc.

>>49159044
The tried to weaponize everything, no matter how face-eating it was. Metroid truly has many things in common with Alien.

>>49159206
Like a savior that Mankind needs, but ill-ly so.

>>49159181
It's largely nostalgia. Return was my first.

but it has the best end of game samus of them all

>>49159277
Perfectly reasonable, considering they're in the middle of at least two giant space wars.

What system would you even use for a P&P Metroid RPG?
Also THE BABY

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>>49159427
There was an anon on /tg/ that was working on this. I think it's mostly finished.

>>49159427
>What system would you even use for a P&P Metroid RPG?

I've heard good things about refluffing All Flesh Must Be Eaten..

>>49160348
They really dropped the ball on the Fed Trooper design in Other M. Then again, they dropped the ball on a lot of things in that game.

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>>49160361
Did somebody say... BLAST BALL?

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>>49160421
Ghor was a pretty cool guy.

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>>49160393
Begone foul beast!

>>49136515
Wasn't Hunters the last real Metroid game? Or did Prime 3 come after it?

>>49160456
Hunters came out first. Also, AM2R is the last real Metroid game, but nobody tell Nintendo that.

>>49160430
Rundas was pretty chill too.
Weird that he wasn't a Vhozon though.

Hunters was 2006, Prime 3 was 2007.
And Federation Force is less of a smear on the series than Other M.

>>49159217
You mean more so.
Castlevania Dracula is second only to god, except he has a thermal exhaust port style weakness where people descended from a specific dude that have a specific weapon can beat him. Or his own magic, meaning his son and anyone he's dumb enough to give power to.

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>>49160361
Enemy design was on point, though. They all felt like rubber monsters, which is the same feeling metroid gave me way back when there was only metroid.

So how many decades will it be before Nintendo brings back Samus?

Will it be after virtual reality becomes good and below $600-$1000?

>>49160482
2nd part was meant for >>49160456

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>>49160512
when they release their own metroid 2 remake

I mean, t-that's why they finally put the kibosh on AM2R, right?

>>49160544 Yup. Exactly like how Nintendo bought out Super Hornio Brothers so they could put out their own Mario based porn.

>>49160512
>>49160544
funny part is that if other M didn't bomb we probably would've had more metroid games by now and federation force wouldn't have gotten such backlash from fans

>>49160660
I still have my pre-order art and the box. It's a grim reminder to $60 I will never get back.

>>49160660
Actually, some of the bashing came from the graphic style, not playing as Samus, etc.

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>>49159450
I'm the anon who made the system. A mostly finished update is out but hasn't been really polished yet. Try this one instead

>>49160708
At least you didn't buy No Man's Sky.

>>49160710
honestly the whole drama surrounding the game just sounds like bad timing at the end of the day.

if other M wasn't the last game in the series or if there was another mainline game coming out around the same time not playing as samus wouldn't have been that big of a issue.

It's not like Nintendo hasn't made spinoffs of their IPs before

I don't remember shit about Hunters except it was dope and I wish they did more shit with other bounty hunters.
I remember some were in Prime 3, but they got turned evil.

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>>49160772
....wellll

>>49160793
it's sad that they dropped multiplayer in prime 3 it was probably the best part of hunters

>>49160793
I wouldn't say they were really ever good

>>49160830
Ghor was noted for being very kind/paladin like in his scan logs iirc.

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>>49160793
>Hunters
Noxus: From a race of uptight ice controlling do-gooders
Spire: Lonely lava man
Kandan: Power-hungry bio-weapon
Sylux: Hates the Federation, has stolen Samus-based tech
Trace: Übermensch from a hostile Space Bug Empire
Weavel: Space Pirate cripple, his crotch is a turret

>Prime 3
Rundas: Brotier do-gooder from a race of ice controllers, flies like Frozone
Ghor: Crippled war veteran, does not lift, his spaceship is a mech
Gandrayda: Troll faced too long as a child and now it's stuck like that, shapeshifter

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>>49161169
admiral dane was cooler than the prime 3 hunters

Instead of ADAM and THE BABY, I'd have liked to hang around him some more.

>>49160971
Ghor disengaged from his battlesuit:
>Are there any survivors? After we secure this zone I'll go check for survivors just to be sure

Ghor integrated with his battlesuit:
>WHERE ARE THE PIRATES SAMUS, I NEED MORE PIRATES NOW THAT THESE ONES ARE ALL DEAD

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>>49161169
Just to be clear:
Noxus and Rundas are separate species, fuck knows why

>>49161254
I wouldn't be surprised if they came from the same batch of concept art.

But yeah, I found it rather dumb that Rundas was a Vho as well. I was banking on it up until I got to scan him.

>>49161410
Wasn't, I mean of course.

>>49155298 https://youtu.be/Ky-eaH9C1l0

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>>49161238

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>>49161410
Maybe they're very closely related species? Or just different cultures of the same species?

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>>49161533
How does something evolve immunity to plasma blasts in an area where most of the other creatures just used acid or melee? Was it just a random fluke that didn't get bred out?

>>49161554
Alternatively, they're the reason the plasma attackers aren't around anymore.

>>49161554
At the point that you're possessed by space demons and simultaneously souped up on space mutagen you have a free pass to be able to do whatever you want.
Which two enemies are we specifically comparing?

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>>49161621
I just don't remember anything in the swamp shooting lasers or plasma.

Also they're completely immune to ALL attacks to the front which is pretty nuts.

>>49161642
Weren't the Grenchlers literally Sheegoths that the Luminoth imported from the Chozo a bajillion years ago?

>>49161653
They use the same animation skeletons and AI rules, but that's not treated as an in-universe link.

>>49161202
>Sir the planet is covered in acid rain, you need to wear a suit if your going to be on the ground

>Fuck that i'll use the lander as an umbrella

>>49161716
He swore in a Nintendo game. It was only damn and hell, and it got censored in the trilogy, but still.

>>49161533
They are different species but here's food for thought. The Vho are a fairly sized minor empire, and Phrygis, the moon, not even planet, but moon Phrygians and Rundas come from could be very well a colony planet where a splinter species formed.

>>49157431
>The Omega Metroid from Fusion was nowhere alike the other ones judging by how you kill it with only the Ice Beam & no Super Missiles.

Well, I would say that firstly that was an Omega Metroid grown in a federation lab so maybe they deliberately made it with certain weaknesses.
The other thing I would point out is that last time you had to face off against an Omega Metroid I don't think you had the plasma beam. Although the more I think on that, the less sure I become.

>>49161840
In Metroid 2 they can only be damaged by missiles, so uh, dunno. Hard to say if its a limitation thing like it was with so many things in Metroid 2 or intentional, or if it was just a case of strains.

>>49161792
Yeah I figure they're like Vulkans and Romulans, or the various near-humans in Star Wars.

>>49160490

Uh, in fairness it's not like he just gave Shanoa that stuff, she was literally ripping it out of his minions as she went along.

Plus that was also the game where Dracula finally learnt how to walk, to the utter terror of everyone playing.

>>49161877

Or if it's case that Samus didn't have certain beam weapons capable of hurting a metroid that in Fusion she does.

Although thanks for reminding me that I downloaded AM2R. I really should give that a look.

>>49161905
>Oh boy form 2 time for drac to turn into a monster.

>Wait why is he walking twords me, did he just fucking kick me

>>49162075

>OH SHIT I PICKED A BAD TIME TO EQUIP A DEATH RING.

>>49162016
I think it is because they didn't stack for increased power in 2.
Plasma + ice = can finally kill omegas without worrying about ammo?

In my headcanon, F-Zero, Metroid and Starfox all take place in the same universe. Is this backed up at all?

>>49163301
I could see F-zero and Metroid, but starfox?

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>>49163459

There are actually more and stronger links between Star Fox and F-Zero than there are between Metroid and F-Zero.

>>49163493
As of GX/AX, maybe. Not before.

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>>49164095

Even then, one the (shitty) endings for Star Fox Command has Fox and Falco fucking off to modify their Arwings for the "G-Zero Grand Prix." It goes both ways.

>>49160660
>funny part is that if other M didn't bomb we probably would've had more metroid games by now
Funny part is that if Federation Force bombs we probably won't get more Metroid games for quite a while /shill

would've had more -> would have had more -> would have more
it's redundant, and "would've more" is proper English

>/tg/- Video Games.

>>49164714
/tg/ is about people who play traditional games.
Many traditional gamers also play video games.

Plus, we're (mostly) discussing the setting.

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>>49160400
No but seriously, that looks just like his Psychogun.

>>49153394
He flinched back in fear as The Hunter stepped forward.

>>49161840
Maybe so but the descriptions given in-game & more suggest this is their natural weakness.

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>>49165712
Is that a high-heeled ballerina?

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>>49161716
What a cool guy.

>>49165144

Well, to be fair that's unchanged? I mean, Metroids ARE vulnerable to Ice, it's just in two they were also pretty fucking vulnerable to missiles as well.

Apart from the larval metroids who have to be frozen before killed.

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What is Sylux anyways? A human?
He always gave me a Nightmare vibe.

>>49157431
>In fact, it looks like Fusion retconned it so cold is a Metroid's #1 weakness.
Well the Metroid Vaccine sure didn't make Samus extra vulnerable to missiles.

>>49165786
Some of the later forms do seem to have lost the weakness or have it lessened. The Omega Metroids in Metroid 2 couldn't be killed by the ice beam & the Queen always had bombs placed in its belly. They can be harmed otherwise but it looks like Nintendo tried to emphasize on their cold weakness in later games.

>>49166885
Super missiles are strong enough that you don't need to be weak them for damage to be done. Besides, missiles bounce off baby Metroids unless frozen.

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>>49166885
In Hunters' intro, Sylux's origin is listed as "Cylosis" but the species just says unknown. Then the smash bros. trophy resorts to "it" in the description.

We don't know anything about Cylosis, but it's theorized that Sylux is a female human just like Samus since they've gone to so much effort to hide it.

>>49164714 How different are Space Pirates from Skaven anyways? They seem pretty much the same.

>>49167070
personally I'm assuming Sylux is ex-federation who went rogue with some of their most experimental equipment
maybe even because of an experiment with chozo-based tech that went wrong so he/she/it blames samus at least partially

>>49167070
If the Shock Coil is Federation tech, why did Sylux steal a Metroid? Space Pirate contract? Planning for X hijinks?

>>49159003
You half right. Metroid evolve differently when exposed to different enviroments (the Tallon Metroid for example) the only time you could ever replicate the original evolutions is through simulating the enviroment to match SR388 like in Fusion

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>>49167335

>>49167234
They backstab each other a lot less.

>>49167384
he's using evolution in the pokemon sense

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>>49143219
Anons who've read this: what is this manga and why is it?

>>49167621
I shoulda used metamorphised or mutated or any other word that won't trigger someone

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>>49167753
Trigger is my trigger word.

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>>49167656
Samus and Joey? It's a manga about a little boy following Samus around and having adventures. As far as I can tell it's because Japan.

>>49160490
Also, expressly linking Dracula to 'Vlad Tepes', as opposed to 'nebulous Eastern European noble who got a fairly simple nickname for being a dick', was the most boring thing to ever happen to vampires.

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>>49167791
>nintendo on the right

>>49167753
>any
now I am fucking triggered you asshat

>>49167893
>a

>>49167791
>>49168194
THE TRIGGERING COMMENCES

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>>49168244
>THE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
be fucking mindful pissfuck

>>49168225
>>49168330
Oh boy oh joy. I sure love this tumblr grade salt

How much interaction did the Federation have with the Luminoth?

>>49168502
Sadly didn't play Prime 3 so can't confirm any sources, but wikia says they had some contact as the GF helped rebuild Aether and most likely discovered remaining Phazon on the planet during that time.

>>49168502
>>49168628
There is lore you can come across in prime 3 that delves into Luminoth/Federation relations. They also explain more in depth the cause of the rift between both Aethers

>>49168749
>the cause of the rift between both Aethers
Space Planet Monster was responsible DEEPEST LORE!

>>49169102
But it makes sense. How would phazon just suddenly end up in dark aether (albeit limited). And this was no ordinary levithan either. This was a big bitch

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>tfw you will never ever see an X-Parasite get infected by Phazon

>>49169423
>you will never see an X infested Ing mutated by Phazon
Why even live?

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>>49170104
>lovable tank with an honorable storyline/10

>>49169423
I don't think that would go well for the X Parasites. Their main power is to precisely copy another lifeform's shape and DNA structure. Phazon causes wild mutations and heightened aggression in lifeforms exposed to it. It would be hard for the X to hold a specific shape when all of them are mutating into different lifeforms and going insane from radiation exposure.

>>49171398
You're looking at it the wrong way.
Phazon *is living*, so X would overtake it.

that would get p spoopy

>>49171398
X can alter a few things. Ridley's clone wasn't the same for one.

>>49171515
X copies the phazon, which corrupts the X, ad infinium.

>>49172167
Nah. Might ruin a shit ton of their shell/puppet/bodies if they aren't careful.

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>>49172167
These. Phaze-X would be scary in theory. Some constantly shifting abominations of excess energy and constant mutation as the X parasite tries to maintain a cohesive grasp on its constantly changing cell structure.

>>49172540
This boss battle with super intense when I was a kid. Thought phase 1 was hard enough and then SA-X hulked out.

>>49171515
I'm curious. What would happen if you threw the Ing into the mixture like >>49169768 is saying, what then?

>>49172540
I figure if the Phaze-X want to stay within a stable form, they would need to form into Core X as it would require multiple Phaze-X to keep a stable form, multiple entities becoming one.

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>>49172860
>What would happen if you threw the Ing into the mixture

Hard to say, since Ing are already sort of half Phazon creatures already, as they were created by Phazon interacting with the Light of Aether. Even so, they can be affected and mutated by Phazon as the Emperor Ing shows. He seemed to be able to control it to a degree and didn't really show any negative effects beyond being an unstable shapeshifter.

I think ultimately the Ing's possession ability would win out over the X's infection since the Ing aren't fully physical creatures. So you'd end up with a Dark Phazon X that's multiplying out of control while making hosts significantly stronger and more mutated.

Frankly it sounds downright unstoppable.

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>>49165712
>>49170104
>>49172989

Like Samus, but less so.

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>>49173232
Stat me

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>>49173710
Like the other bounty hunters, but more so.

>>49173710
Like Samus, and just so.

>>49173184
>tfw this isn't even its final form

>>49173184
No imagine if the X within this amalgamate had access to the genetic histories of both the Ing and Phazon itself and picked the one thing that was it's stumbling block. The Metroid

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>>49175057
You maniac, you're going too far!

>>49175297
No. Not far enough. Get the SR388 evolutions in the mix. Bad times for all

>>49175870
>tfw this is likely how the Federation actually thinks

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>>49155298 >>49161428
So what was the deal with Kraid anyways?
I know Meta-Kraid got cut from Prime, but what even was his job?

Ridley was an active and significant member of High Command, who goes out and raids and does leader-ish stuff all the time.
Does Kraid's job description involve anything besides putting around Brinstar?

>>49178002
It looks like Kraid is a high ranking person given the statue in Super Metroid but I guess Ridley is more active or stronger? I'm not sure.

>>49178420
Ridley is commander of all of the Space Pirate forces with Kraid just being a high ranking general IIRC.

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>>49178420
Ridley is essentially on the Space Pirate's Board of Directors.
His defining characteristic is cowardice, but he always leads any nearby undertakings. From the front.
Stealth missions? He's got it. Local raids? He's got it. Major space war. Leads from the front. Everytime.

Meanwhile he don't know anything about Kraid. Is he too fat to leave his office? He might be.

>given the statue in Super Metroid
Speaking of which, Draygon generally adheres to the Space Pirate aesthetic, what's Phantoon about?
He's like... an only partially real Space Monster that eats ghosts, or something?
He bumbs around Zebes because he likes Motherbrain, but both of his appearances are for purely incidental reasons?
He pretty much only shows upon when he chances upon wrecked ships.
Despite that he is *explicitly* a Space Pirates. When did he join, Zebes?
What does he contribute normally? What can he contribute normally?
also, does Draygon get towed to battles in a fish tank, or what?

>Meanwhile *we don't know anything about Kraid.

>>49158286 >>49160435 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOX81piCLXY

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>>49178855
IIRC there was something about Phantoon feeding on Mother Brain's brainwaves and likely also the Wrecked Ship's power supply, but other than that he doesn't seem to do much.

I always assumed the statue guys were enforcers or something. Like Kraid does terrestrial raiding on planets and there's not much anyone can do to stop his bulk, while Draygon is the one that handles aquatic races and stuff. Ridley is a General and does general things leading whatever needs leading. Phantoon, though, seems like a ship combat specialist, maybe? He can depower ships and turn the crew into ghosts, at least.

I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.

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>>49175057
Taking a step back from the megroid mega combo whammies.....

What if phazon matter was put in contact with the tyranids?

>>49179745
Nothing would change. The phazon would just throw up it's unstable mutagenics and go home, its work was done before it got there.

>>49179745
I don't think the Tyranids could do much, since Phazon is so corrosive.

On the other hand Phazon doesn't really give a shit about the local wildlife,
so the Tyranids could stick around for (potentially beneficial) mutations or they could fuck of into space.

Don't really see that going any other way though.

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>>49179745
This would be the initial reaction from the nids.

And then things would get worse. Phazon wants to and can turn EVERYTHING into more Phazon, even dead shit. And it's "aware" enough that it can create shit like Dark Samus, the Metroid Prime, and the fucking Ing. Give it even the slightest leeway into the hivemind, and whatever comes out the other end, it's going to be fucking bad.

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>>49180334
>And it's "aware" enough that it can create shit like Dark Samus, the Metroid Prime, and the fucking Ing.
Dark Samus *is* Metroid Prime. And while the Ing were Phazon based, they had more to do with the Light of Aether being crazy magic shit then they did to do with Phazon.
Phaaze itself was actually pretty stupid. The Space Pirates had to graft a gigantic brain onto it to make it smart enough to do coordinated Leviathan attacks for them.

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>>49180468
>tfw space pirates are smarter than an entire living planet

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>>49180468
>Phaaze itself was actually pretty stupid. The Space Pirates had to graft a gigantic brain onto it to make it smart enough to do coordinated Leviathan attacks for them.
wait a minute that sounds really fucking familiar

>>49155199
The Space Pirate homeworld actually *was* the home base of the Space Pirate grouping. In Prime 3 they got super-fucked by Samus leading a GF ship to their doorstep, putting the last nail in the coffin of their efforts after the lost of Zebes.

Thus why, once SR388's metroid population was wiped out, the last metroid really *was* in captivity, and the galaxy *was* at peace. The major destabilizing issue on the Galactic Federation's borders was more or less taken care of.

>>49180562
GF fleet* not ship

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>>49180562
>The major destabilizing issue on the Galactic Federation's borders was more or less taken care of.
What about the Kriken Empire?

>>49136515
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

>>49180630
They're in the Tetra galaxy though, they don't really share borders. Still, Kriken Empire as a primary antagonist WHEN?

Dammit there are too many kick ass choices for awesome fights in the Metroid universe.

>>49180485

Well, making ill-thought out super bioweapons IS kind of their speciality.

Well that and adding tubes and planetary scale self destruct systems to all of their ships and facilities.

>>49180562
>Thus why, once SR388's metroid population was wiped out, the last metroid really *was* in captivity, and the galaxy *was* at peace. The major destabilizing issue on the Galactic Federation's borders was more or less taken care of.

...and then Mother Brain found out and went

>"OH BOY. METROIDS!"

And started that shit all over again.

>>49179745
I doubt the Hive Mind would like it. It's so infectious that I doubt they can do much.

>>49181320
I think that Super Metroid was more or less the Pirates' last stand or at least an enormous blow. Their generals were dead, apparently this was the true death of Ridley, their homeworld was taken, the mess with phazon messed them up & then all phazon was gone, etc.

>>49180630
How many other galaxies are there? In fact, how big is the GF's range anyway? Is it the entire galaxy or does it extend beyond?

>>49160728
If say, one were to host this as a game on roll20, what would one list the system as? Or would an ad for this be better suited to a forum?

>>49185053
Never used roll20 beyond joining a friend's game so I can't really help you. A forum might work a bit better. Give me a day or two to work out some bugs in the combat system before you do. Head over to that wordpress blog on the second page of the pdf and keep an eye out for the updated version there.

And make sure you remind people I made this about a year before Federation Forces came out, Was really hoping FF would do well so my game would look better but now I'm afraid people associate it with FF negatively

>>49184608
Based on a brief read-through of the wiki:
About 12.

Locations of galaxies and such in Metroid aren't very well-defined, but the GF's reach does extend beyond the Milky Way. From what I can tell, as of MP2, the GF controls the Milky Way, Dasha System, Norion System, and Kalandor.

>>49185467
>they can manage an empire that spans galaxys

>>49185683
Metroid is about as soft as sci-fi gets.

>>49185728
>tfw you will never know what science shit the Chozos can pull

>>49180630
They scout for planets suitable for the empire to conquer as a rite of passage. Makes me wonder how their culture is like.

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>>49186123
Bird magic is strongest magic.
Just ask Tzeench.

>>49186330
war like

>>49186123
The Chozo were a warrior race before they all became infertile.
Every single one of those nerdy bird wizards used to go around ripping and tearing.

>>49186417
>tfw you will never see what if Samus reproduces & what mutant the kid looks like

>>49186911
The Metroid DNA from Fusion probably wouldn't be doing any favors.
Actually, what does she look like under her suit after Fusion?

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>>49187299

>>49187343

So... best as I can tell, the Metroid DNA ate her hairband?

>>49187343
That's from Zero Mission....

>>49187500
It turned her Zero Suit into a sports bra & spats.

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>>49187637

>>49187637
Blue 2 piece= Fusion
Orange 2 piece = Zero mission

How old is Samus?

>>49187343 Are we sure the reward images take place after Fusion?
It got cut from the NA release, but the JP version had a bunch of extra reward images with scenes from her childhood.

>>49187804
20 during Zero Mission, 26 during Fusion.
Other ages during the games between those.

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>>49188020
We still see Samus actually taking the Fusion suit off. Skip to 4 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZs9Ch7tdg

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>>49160435
>>49185263

Federation Force's aesthetic clashes with the series, but it sort of makes sense.
I don't know how much you remember Prime Hunters, but the graphics Sucked Ass.
Part of that was the older hardware, but the 3DS is pretty meh itself.

Cartoon graphics give a lot more bang for you buck with low performance.
They don't necessarily look good, but realistic graphics affected much worse.

So while I don't like the Fed Force design, I can understand why they did it.
Hate those over-sized helmets though, that could have not happened.

>>49185263
Very well, the game I'm currently running will probably take at least a week to collapse anyway.

What bugs do you have in mind, exactly? It seems functional, although I personally am not fond of most hit location systems.

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>>49159450
>it's a d6 system
This isn't Japan, Anon.

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Krrree, Skreeeee!
[stat me, /tg/]

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>>49193329
So good at killing X that not even an SA-X can handle a few baby Metroids. The Chozo truly made a good anti-X weapon.

>>49193473
Not sure if heresy or not

>>49158479
Mother Brain was made by the Chozo to, among other things, help make metroids.
That wasn't it's sole purpose in life, but it was made to make metroids.
Also Mother Brain knew about X Parasites, so there's that.

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>>49143734
>yfw sylus takes off their helmet
>yfw they're a boy

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>>49193574

>>49190860
Sorry, was on the road all day.

>General revisions to make sure shit is working correctly
>clarification of a few functions and rules
>a few more details on the bounty hunter system for those who just absolutely hate being a foot soldier

Also noticed while i was out that the combat section details critical roll effects but I never clarified what a critical roll even was. Fuckin' WHOOPS

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>>49193329
Like Samus, but murdered by MB 'cause you're less so.

>>49158751

Galactic Federation Scientists have vapor for brains

>>49193682
How do they differ from space pirate scientists again?
Have anyone ever seen a GF scientist and a SP scientist in the same room?

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>>49193592
>yfw Sylux takes off the helmet
>yfw it's a Chozo

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>>49193859
I kind of want this now.

>>49193745

GF scientists don't instinctively fear Samus, while SP scientists shit themselves when they hear that there are TWO Hunters

>>49193919
>Fierce warrior race
>Non-flying birds

Chozo confirmed for space kiwi.

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>>49193964
Actually they could fly at a point.

>>49193919
>tfw Samus' suit lets her do shit the Chozo naturally do
>tfw the fighter Chozo are almost an army of Samus Arans

>>49194012
Well, to a point. It'd be like a Space Marine vs. Primarch (or maybe Custodes?), since Samus has all their natural shit, but dialed up even further, PLUS the armor's ever-adapting abilities.

>>49194005

Wait, so they have the gene tinkering skill to create Metroids and Mother-Brain... but they can't work out how to clone themselves?

>>49194118
The Chozo have technology like Samus too. Zero Mission showed that their ancient Power Suits have some pretty strong stuff & can use the Gravity Suit & Plasma Beam.

>>49194163
They probably didn't want to, possibly for ethical or moral reasons.

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>>49193592
>sylux takes off their helmet
>yfw it's armstrong houston

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>>49194118
I just realized that Samus is the galaxys top bounty hunter wearing armor made by a now-extinct race of fierce warriors. Just like, once, before a bunch of retcons and resets and general continuity bullshit, someone else.

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>Autosage

Well, it's been fun.

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>>49194241
I still miss him

>>49194185
Hence why I mentioned Custodes as an alternative. Average Chozo soldier probably wasn't AS good as what Samus ends up with by say, Fusion, but they weren't pushovers.

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>>49194163

I seem to recall there being some bullshit about how they were so old their DNA was breaking down, and was thus unfit for cloning.

To float a new theory, there could be some bullshit about how clones would be soulless or otherwise unable to tap into the Chozo's native magical bullshit, meaning clones are just a dead end, anyway.

>>49194358
Or it maybe they thought that unleashing a new generation of young, spry, arrogant young Chozo on the galaxy could end badly.

>>49194229
>They probably didn't want to, possibly for ethical or moral reasons.

I dunno, their response to discovering the X-Parasite on SR388 was to invent a super-predator to keep their numbers in check that was just as dangerous to the rest of the galaxy.

Instead of, you know, nuking the planet into dust. Something which they could do if the self-destruct mechanism in Zebes is anything to go by.

If it was moral/ethical then Chozo have a very odd set of morals and ethics.

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>>49194430
Okay, realtalk here.
Can you point to ANY scientist in the metroid universe with a good grip of right, wrong and common sense?

>>49194430
>just as dangerous to the rest of the galaxy
I doubt that. The Metroids could copy like the X can. It was more due to Space Pirate or Phazon shit.

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>>49194464
>not trusting the highly intelligent and well trained galactic federation science corps

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>>49194412

Oooh... I like that idea. They know that their days are numbered, so they won't be around to shepherd the next generation onto the peaceful path that took them millennia to reach. And, devoid of that mentorship, who's to say they wouldn't think the galaxy would be better off under their rule?

It'd be neat if this could somehow be worked into the plot of the next game--like if there was some Chozo-cloning experiment gone awry, or a secret conclave that only recently awoke. Imagine having the Chozo as antagonists.