Jack Chick

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>>49044010
It's not D&D you moron.

>>49044010
Jehova witness people came by to see my sister and saw me leaving with my box of game stuff.
They asked me about it then gave me anti dnd propaganda.

One of them said his friend got curious and bought one. When his friend tried to read it he was attacked by demons.

>>49044010

Yeah, I'd heard stories back in the day. I live in central california which is one of those weird mishmash place where rednecks meet liberals. I had a hippie mom and a metal guitarist dad who were cool with D&D and stuff, but some of my friends had to hide their games from their parents because they were religious types who might freak.
Actually had a teacher come out as a D&D player one time, and specifically address the whole "it's evil and teaches you black magic and makes you kill yourself" stuff in class one afternoon after someone brought it up.

(I believe it was in that same class that we had one girl from the more redneck side of town argue that all prison sentences should be replaced with the death penalty.)

>>49044170
I've read hundreds of rulebooks and I've never been attacked by semen demons, I want my money back.

>>49044010

Closest I've ever gotten is my school banning MTG"on grounds because of its "Satanic and anti-social influences

>>49044195
>I believe it was in that same class that we had one girl from the more redneck side of town argue that all prison sentences should be replaced with the death penalty
Arguably better than the current system desu senpai

>>49044238
>miss a redlight twice
>death penalty
wew

I don't think my dad thought it was Satan or anything, but he wouldn't let me play D&D when I was a kid. I've been just reading about it ever since. Played some Pathfinder and Call of Cthulhu for the past few years, but feel like I would be more into it if I'd gotten into it as a wee child.

But here I am, on /tg/, all the same.

>>49044238
>>49044252

She argued that it should be the default penalty for ALL crimes. A full-on draconian police state where jaywalkers get gassed. The sort of thing where even Singapore would be like "wow, okay, that's a bit much."

>>49044220
Thats on the same level as Harry Potter haters thinking it's satanic

>>49044195
Seems like it's those mixing places that give a damn at all. I live in rural Missouri (Ozarks, in fact) and seems like an unusual amount of people used to like that stuff or read fantasy books and understood it. The only people I've heard were against it here, and some probably still, were the Southern Super Religious people who most people think are fucking cuckoo anyway.

>>49044266
Such a society couldn't even kill Wesley Crusher.

>>49044010
I don't live in a country founded by puritans.
So no, I've never had this crap.

>>49044010

Modern fundamentalists prefer to go at more popular targets, like Pokemon Go.

Once had a preacher tell a story about how a teen killed his whole family because he played "an evil video game called Dungeons and Dragons."
Had a hard time keeping a straight face while listening.

>>49044170
>One of them said his friend got curious and bought one. When his friend tried to read it he was attacked by demons.
How does that work? Do you just need to open the book or do you have to play? Are the demons random or related to the game (or maybe your character)?
Oh also, how does his friend survived fucking demons?

I'm sure there must be a RPG in a pseudo Jack Chick universe somewhere...

>>49044319

Well, it's hard to kill the writer's Gary Stu. (And by writer I mean Gene Roddenberry. The actual writers kept trying to fix the character so he wouldn't be terrible and Gene kept saying "no!")

>>49044406
they are not that much into worldbuilding i belive

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>>49044238
>>49044252
What a delightful young lady.
Finally somebody understand!

>>49044502
So they are "idea guys" then? Shame.

>>49044272

To be fair to them, early editions of MTG (I'm an oldfag, this was in 1995 or 96) did have much more overt demonic themes.

>>49044160

Where is the bong!?

>>49044160
>Thai Cuisine

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>that feel when I went to a public elementary school, and a christian high school
It's nice, I was a cannibal corpse shirt wearing edgy nihlist faggot in highschool, and as a result of wanting to express my special snowflakeness, I had to develop a strong understanding of Christianity. Now, it feels nice to tell fundamentalist idiots that their *opinions* are misguided. Some of the most religious people I've ever met were in a goregrind band; you can be religious and still have fun.

Now, with regard to D&D, most people don't care, at least where I live. In my playgroup it was either play an edgy D&D campaign while listening to Autopsy, go on the internet doing god knows what, or play some obscenely violent arena shooter. Clearly D&D was the preferred choice by 99% of our parents.

The only time I ever remember having an issue was when I went over to my friend's for our campaign while my girlfriend was watching Braindead (aka Dead Alive). In our campaign we were gathering souls, but in order to harvest the souls, we had to have an elaborate summoning ritual. I remember something about disembowling a priest, drinking his blood from a skull, and having his intestines come to life to tell us where the maguffin went. My buddy's poor mom walked in at exactly that moment, while Peter in Braindead was lawnmowering 50 or so zombies in the background. She went white as a sheet, made an ear peicing shriek and promptly kicked us out. Turns out my buddy had to go to a christian camp that summer, but apart from missing his awesome basement, nothing really came of it.

>>49044170
>Jehova witness people came by and someone answered the door.
This story definitely happened.

>>49044195
Wait - are you seriously saying that an actual prejudice still exists? Mazes and Monsters came out, what, 35 years ago, and people STILL think it's demonmagic?!!
Damn you, Tom Hanks!

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Not the Jack Chick variety. But this Wiccan bitch friend of a girl I met on Tinder got really fucking uptight about the content of a very Deus Vulty game I was talking about with the girl.

Like the biggest crybaby fit ever over how even as a joke that's still perpetuating blah blah fucking blah.

The girl doesn't talk to me anymore because she's a wiccan too and the bitchy one was like the priestess of their little trailer park coven.

>>49044170
Man, I wish my group was attacked by demons. Then we could finally stop playing 3.5

>>49045201
Maybe you were...
What do you think hell is?

>>49045070
I always answered the door back when I was an edgy fuck to make fun of them.

>>49044238
You have to be 18 to use 4chan

>>49045037
I still listen to DM and BM, wear band tshirts, play DnD, Mtg and others. Im one of the very few religious people in my friends circle. Never in my life I faced any problems concerning my hobbies. My parents hate all forms of metal and are really conservative but they were very supportive, bought me cds since I was very young, let me go to gigs, same with tg stuff. Thats the reason I never went even slightly edgy.

>>49044332
The internet is a series of satanic game tubes young man.

That iPhone in your pocket is a spellbook from the devil!

>>49045135

No, the phrase "back in the day" should have tipped you off that I'm an oldfag. I started playing Basic D&D in grade school back in '82. Get off my lawn, I guess?

>>49045159

Wiccans are like the Christians of the occult world. Smug and self-righteous, but also prickly and constantly needing to be the most important belief system in the room.

>>49044010
My dad played d&d when he was younger, and had to explain to his girlfriend last year that me playing it was not going to involve any satanic rituals

>>49045240
Well that does explain all the druids

>>49045813
>his game doesn't involve satanic rituals
look at him and laugh

>>49045803

Oh, and also they are really devoted to whitewashing the stuff that happened in the middle ages. All that devil stuff never happened, and it was all lies by their enemies, and all the witches prior to the 20th century who said otherwise were I dunno, on mushrooms or something.

>>49045803
>>49045840

Honestly, this particular group is kind of worse. From what I understand she was charging everyone in the group to perform their rituals, the girl I was seeing would regularly smoke that spice shit because the chick mixed it in with her weed, and there's a line from their little get-togethers that's something like "Embracing [the spirit whatever] in perfect love and perfect trust."

Like I never actually witnessed cult behavior behavior before I met this girl and I'm kind of sad that she's stuck out in that trailer park with these people because she's otherwise a really nice girl.

>>49044010
I do. The internet is an improvement over the old way of moms getting information fourth-hand, via the telephone calls of vindictive gossipy frenemies. My mom came to me and told me how worried she was that I would become suicidal from my Dungeons and Dragons books, and basically guilted me into burning all my 1e and 2e. Later I found out that she was manipulating me to try to get something dad wanted, as he was an elder at the First Church Of No Fun. Twist was that he only mentioned it as a pretext to send me off to military school to get rid of me anyway, and this was her counterargument to keep me around.

I play D&D because it's a game I can win, unlike the mindfuck of a game we call society

>>49046078
Rape your dad.

>>49046078
>I play D&D because it's a game I can win
>D&D
>Winning

I get what you're saying man, but that was a really poor choice of words.

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>start playing OD&D when I'm 7 years old (early/mid 90s) with my grandfather; he DMs for me and I play the whole party of PCs going through dungeons
>time passes
>be in fifth grade
>played MTG with some family members but don't have my own cards
>see two guys playing MTG and ask to join in
>they let me use one of their decks
>conversation during the game shifts
>I'm kind of shy so I just let them talk
>the following exchange happens
>"Man, look. I just played an angel. I can't believe some people think this game is Satanic."
>"Yeah... Now, Dungeons and Dragons. THAT stuff is devil worship."
>"Yeah."
>mfw

>>49046534
D&D /is/ a game you can win or lose. That's why it's cheating when the DM fudges rolls.

>>49047568
>D&D /is/ a game you can win or lose.
The only winning move is not to play.

>>49047582
Oh, I didn't realize we were talking specifically about 3/3.5 and variants thereof.

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>>49044170
>When his friend tried to read it he was attacked by demons.
A clever retort might be "Isn't lying a sin?", seeing as, ya know, he was in all likelihood pulling that story out of his ass and claiming it as truth.

but as to >>49044010 question, never, not the religious "DnD is the Devil's work!!!" at any rate. once or twice in my life I've gotten the "Get a life"-type mockery but that's about it. Most people I talked to either share my interests, or admit it's not their thing and leave it at that.

>>49045070
Depends on the house. At my house, we have a massive as fuck window(6'x6') on the west face of the house, facing the driveway from the living room. Someone comes up the hill and gets out of their car, they can see us sitting on the couch or at the kitchen table - which, yes, is in the living room. My mother thought we should put up a dividing wall between the kitchen and living room, because she hates open floor plans, and there's no room in the kitchen anymore; bonus: she hates the wall now - so they know if we're sitting there being rude. I've had to answer the door for mormons, Jehova's witnesses, fraternity of police people, and at least a few others, because the assholes around here would rather stand there knocking for ten minutes to shame you into answering the door and act like the happiest fuckers in the world to really twist the knife than give up and move on.

>>49044010
Back in... 1990 or so we played every Sunday quite regularly. A girl who we were friends with and lived in the same complex as where we played, her parent's wouldn't let her come over on game days. She would also bring over some hilariously entertaining "D&D is evil!" religious pamphlets for us occasionally.

Now that I think of it, some friends in Baptist school with me in the late '80's and some parents who hated me bringing D&D stuff around. We had a comfy place to play at our religious Youth Group place we played a few times before being banned from playing.

>>49045070
to be fair, I answer the door out of habit and then find out all too late what they want.

then again I live in one of those... I think I've heard it called a "motel suburb", I think I'm remembering it wrong, POINT IS! its one of those suburbs where everyone drives off each morning and doesn't come back except to sleep. In other words, during the daylight hours 90% of the homes are unoccupied.

>>49047762
>Furries & DMPC
Oh God

>>49047888
In the decade, over here in Europe, the Catholic priest who I never knew was a Catholic priest until he died and I was forced into my best dress and hat for the procession, DMed my first ever tabletop game session and set me on the path of dork culture.

Thanks for that, Hervé.

>>49048007
Catgirls =/= furry

>>49048060
That's pretty great.

Probably a good showcase on the difference in Christianity on either side of the Atlantic. The guy who banned us playing in the Youth Group place also did a big lecture on how rock & roll was evil and should be avoided. So... yeah.

>>49048119
Nah, I'm sure we have some priests who would do the same. The bearded ones over here are certainly crazy enough for that kind of shit.

>>49048119
>rock & roll was evil
Only the really good stuff is.

>>49047459
saving it thanks

>>49044851
I legit never noticed that before. My sides have left orbit.

>>49044010
Never myself. But there was this one thing about a decade ago, my friend was wearing a D&D shirt with a red dragon on it and at a mall got this really long and intense look from an older lady as we walked past her. We only later realized his shirt was probably the reason and she took him for a devil worshipper or something.

I wonder what said lady thought of the people there passing through who wore heavy metal shirts, there being a big specialist CD shop there as well.

But that's pretty much the only thing approaching D&D discrimination I've ever seen (or heard of) happening here.

>>49044421

Creating Star Trek aside, Gene was a pretty big douchenozzle IRL. I've read so many stories of him and Paramount screwing over Trek writers.

>>49048724
CoughHarlenEllisonCough

My own mother, who is otherwise pretty smart, didn't believe that I wasn't playing some sort of demonic/introvert weirdo game until she heard that our neighbor's adult son used to play and now he has a job, a house, a wife, and a kid.

She also says she prays for me when I try to talk to her about things I enjoy doing.

>>49044010

Oh yeah. Christian family and all that. Parents were fairly understanding, members of our church and other relatives were full of disapproval. So glad my parents raised me to think for myself.

>>49045813
>not having satanic rituals
Get out of here with that pussy shit.

>>49044010
At my FLGS here in St Louis some crazy Christfag left a big stack of Jack Chick's Dark Dungeons in the gaming area. Needless to say we all had a great laugh. I just wish I kept a copy so I'd have a hard copy of it for myself.

>>49048104
right. they're somehow even worse.

>>49049597
I once tried playing without sacrificing a virgin goat once and I rolled nothing but ones. Learned my lesson.

>>49044010
>anti-D&D discrimination
>stigma

You sound like a feminist.

>>49047762
Thiiiiiiiiiccccc

>>49045070
I always answer the door because if you don't they'll probably keep knocking or come back later.

It's usually kids looking for my kids, kids are persistent.

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>>49044816
Eh, a little.

>>49050644
mm, yes.

>>49045070
There were these ones back at my old home trying to convert the whole block or something.
I answered them but warned lazily about the iron charriot in the garage (obviously shitting them).

One of them got the reference and left very fast. I honestly did not expect that shit to work.

>>49044010
Not outright. Had people asking me about it, but since I live in a place where everything got denounced as satanic back then nobody seriously believed that shit. When explaining it to people some of them wanted to play even, so I guess propaganda backfired.

I did get a lot of questions in chatrooms asking if roleplaying was anything sexual though. They seemed to not get why include elves and dwarves in the deal.

>>49051895
>I put on my robe and wizard hat.

>>49044010
I grew up being told by my parents that dd caused people to commit suicide. It wasn't until I moved out that I learned it was one group that did that.

>>49044238
>jaywalks
>shot in front of firing squad
Whatever you say, anon.

>>49053312
For reference it was this person death that started the shit storm.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III

>>49045135
It still exists it's just not a prevalent as it used to be. I attended a Church Camp around the year 2000 that warned me about the dangers of D&D.

Joke's on them, my Dad was both a Preacher and my first DM.

>>49053406
>being called James Dallas Egbert III
>the goddamn third
>not commit suicide
What were the parents thinking?

>>49053880
Why do so many parents give their kids shit names? Like, I see kids walking around with the type of name I'd expect to see on a dog.

>>49053880
He had a lot of issues.

Like his mum.

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>>49044010
We do have a past-time here that causes people to gradually become violent, primitive and strange. It's called going to church.

>>49046534
Ok, it's true. I don't really play D&D. I can never get a group, and PTSD gets in the way of the fun when I do. But I enjoy reading the rules, and used to enjoy the fluff, and start homebrews I will never finish.

>>49053244
I cast level 3 eroticism, you turn into a beautiful womyn.

>>49055308
This.
>I'm Andrew Dallas and here's my son, James Dallas Egbert III
>you don't want to know what happened to I and II

>>49044010
Briefly. My parents, devout Evangelical Protestants, thought Magic the Gathering and D&D were both the occult and told me I could never get involved in either. I had a friend who played Magic and he sat down with me with his cards, my dad insisted on observing. Nothing really came of it (too rich for my blood anyway)

Later, I played D&D at highschool, told my folks about it. Dad said "it's cultish" and I said "it's not really" and that was the end of the concerns.

I had pretty chill understanding parents.

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>>49045707
Then how are you writing here?
DEVIL WORSHIPPER! SHAME!
I am writing from a sanctified keyboard and use christian filter so I'm safe from Satan.

>>49048923
>She also says she prays for me when I try to talk to her about things I enjoy doing.

That isn't unreasonable depending what it is you enjoy doing.

My friend's parents are really religious. I swear his mother can't go for more that three sentences without mentioning Jesus. If anything good ever happens, it's always because God was looking out for you, even if the good thing was something somebody else directly did, like giving you a quarter to pay for your drink at the convenience store after it turns out you were short on cash. God would get more praise than the actual person giving you the quarter. (His dad's plenty religious too, but doesn't come across as unhinged about it.)

Anyway, his mom freaked out when she found out he was playing D&D and burned his all books in the fireplace. So he just started doing freeform stuff. Once he grew up and moved out, he decided he was pagan (as in spirits and goddesses and shit--though he admittedly seems halfhearted about it and hardly ever brings it up, at least in the presence of our group of mostly atheists and non-observing Christians/Christians by default). He recently decided he was gender-queer, which personally seems silly to me because he has like zero sexual drive or identity and couldn't explain to me what the difference was other than that he might sometimes wear a skirt or paint his nails. But maybe I'm just the relic of a bygone era who has fallen behind the curve of progress and can only shake his head at the crazy things kids are doing these days.

In any case, you have to give his parents some credit, as apparently, despite being mystified about his... gender identity, they were still accepting of him and reiterated their love for him. Given their crazy level of religiousness and right-wing political views (their church apparently preaches about how the homosexual agenda is destroying the country and trying to turn people away from God), it's not necessarily the reaction you would've expected.

But I guess the point of all of this is to keep your kids away from D&D, because it'll turn them pagan and (sort of, but not really) gay.

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On a not entirely unrelated note, I remember that some kids had painted the symbol for Blue Oyster Cult onto the shed in their backyard, and everybody thought satanic rituals were conducted there and shit.

https://youtu.be/ePskTD61oH0

When I was in like 5th(?) grade I bought an old Marvel RPG from a game shop that opened up near us. Apparently my mother didn't realize what it was when I bought it, and when she figured it out went back and yelled at the store owner. Dude was super cool though and took it in stride, laughed about it later when I was a bit older and went in to the store myself.

My grandmother was a fanatical Christian who raised my father Catholic and fancied herself Jewish as well. She gave me a lot of those Jack Chick comics when I was a kid.

On a slightly funnier note, a random Korean Unitarian gave me one this New Year's day when I helped him a bit at the store I work at.

Honestly the Jack Chick comics are hilarious.

>>49048007
Apparently everyone is new in the situation.

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>>49048104
>>49050067

>>49058667
I'd shift the labels one to the left, so that you start with semi-furry, but whatever.

>>49059241
>kind of furry
>furry
>very furry
>dammit, Disney!
>fine too

>>49045037
>while my girlfriend was watching Braindead (aka Dead Alive).

A true classic, good taste

>>49044010
Spanish-fag here. There's a lot stygma on RPGs even today,'cause a bunch of murders that happened in the 90s which the yellow press linked to roleplaying games. Growing up I heard shit about RPGs, but then I got into Warhammer like every other cool kid around and,eventually,when I was 12 started to play Lord of the Rings and D&D; 'cause the DM was a friend of my brother,whom my parents known,they allowed it.
In high school people though I was weird for playing RPGs,though. A girl of my course once asked me how we killed the chickens and if I had some mental problem.

>>49044010
>Do any of you have any experience with any Jack Chick style anti-D&D discrimination?

My family was always generally opposed to hobbies like these on "religious" grounds. Although my personal interpretation of religion was far less fundamentalist than theirs, so I didn't give a shit. It wasn't until my adult years that I could more publicly get into games like D&D. My father would literally beat me if he caught me doing anything he disagreed with.

Outside my family, there have been a couple of instances where people have harassed my D&D group. Some old guy who happened to walk by us at the mall felt the need to comment about how we're all going to hell. The only other thing I might count as discrimination (and I'm probably using the term loosely) is when I had to sit through a pastor's sermon condemning D&D and anyone who played it.

I think these people are grossly misinformed about Christianity, but whatever. You can't convince them of any other interpretation of scripture when that's what was literally beaten into them from birth. They're convinced that God is going to come down on them with divine retribution should they ever question their parents' fundamentalist ways.

My dad was a huge Conan fan, and he understood it was basically the same idea. Feels good man

>>49059516
>magnum opus "Lisa"
how bad is it?

>>49059349
Gotta say the stygma is sloooowly fading away,and only the most religious fanatics still uphold the "D&D=Satan's game" concept at 100%, because there's a whole generation of adults that have played RPGs for the last 20 years and are all alive and sane. Hell, there's a rising activit movement of teachers trying to bring roleplaying games into schools right now.

My dad was a Baptist pastor. He used to play a bunch in highschool and got genuinely excited when I told him I started picking up the hobby. I even practiced DMing with him and my brother.

When I got into MtG my dad also passively picked up the hobby so we would have a game we could play together.

I didn't know about the whole "D&D is the devil" thing until I started dating a girl whose parent's were extremely strict.

>>49048119
>The guy who banned us playing in the Youth Group place also did a big lecture on how rock & roll was evil
I love this one. It takes some real tenacity to cling the whole "rock & roll is evil" spiel, given that it's like half a century out of date and most of their ilk have switched over to hating on rap (which is, at least, shitty music the vast majority of the time).

>>49059647
shit, man
I looked it up
what the fuck

>>49059714
Fuck,your dad was cool. I'm sorry for your loss,anon.

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>>49055591
I wouldn't say it causes it, but think about it. Perhaps it's more that people with violent tendencies often turn to church thinking it might might help them control their violent nature.

Church is where a lot of people go to try to improve themselves through religion, and it can help, but people with violent tendencies are probably better served by a psychologist, which most priests and pastors probably aren't. Shame that anything to do with mental health is expensive as fuck here in the US, even with insurance, so maybe it's the best some people like that can get.

>>49044010
Yeah, I've dealt with that before. I'm from a Christian family, and I was told that games like D&D were satanic and that they drove a lot of people to suicide and so on, but I always had a quiet interest in them. Eventually, I was old enough that my parents couldn't told me not to, and I found a D&D 3.5 group through one of my friends and had a lot of fun as a Dwarf Cleric by the name of Gromgar.

>>49058537
I thought Chick hated Catholics with an even more rabid passion than he did fun.

>>49058667
note how steps 3+ have no shirt on? this is how furries spread their evil influence.

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>>49059927
That's correct. Catholics secretly worship the debil

>>49059927
He just has a "No True Scotsman" attitude toward them.

>>49060071
that reminds me of the plot of something or another, but I can't put my finger on what.

>>49060071

Wow, so the Devil was right, at least in Jack Chick's case.

>>49060145
more or less the way everything was explained in any communist country ever.

>>49058667
How the fuck is 2 not a furry?

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>>49044010
Yes, actually.

My father is a very christian man, as is my mother. When I asked him about D&D he told me that it was evil and that I shouldn't play it.

I used to play GTA Vice City and San Andreas with him and my little sisters even years before he told me that.
Both my parents still think that Harry Potter is evil, hence why I haven't watched it as a kid.

>>49058667
>1: Semi-furry
>2: Furry
>3: Very furry
>4: Very, very furry
>5: Bestiality

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>>49060431
This is more accurate desu

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>Mom I'm gonna go play RPGs with my friends
>"Is that the thing where you run around pretending to fight with swords and magic?"
>No mom that's really embarrasing, we just sit at a table
>"You do need to get out more though"

>>49060454
She wants you to play hand-egg like all the braindead jocks of your class

>>49044252
>miss a redlight twice
>welp, guess we may as well kill all the cops now

>>49045803
-- So, like most religious systems, then?

Most religions are not founded on a basis which allows for other interpretations to be correct. Those which are, tend to be tied to ethnicity.

>>49060617

More or less, yeah. The occult space is generally not like that, but the Wiccans are.
most occult folks are more like "Hey, wow, your shit's pretty weird. Check out my weird shit. Pretty cool, too, huh?"
Basically they took a loose set of pagan nature beliefs, excised all the anti-Catholic devil stuff, (then pretended it was never real to begin with) cleaned and polished it, and presented it as a packaged religion.

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>>49058667
Fixed that for you.

>>49060431
>>1: Semi-furry
But it's not.

>>49060850

You just keep telling yourself that, bub.

>>49060875
But it isn't.

>>49060571
This was actually a plot point in a game I ran, in a country that greatly expanded the list of capital crimes to discourage criminals.

It backfired and wound up with criminals saying "Welp, we're getting hanged, might as well rape and murder"

>>49047762
>Most people I talked to either share my interests, or admit it's not their thing and leave it at that.
Lucky son of a bitch...

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>>49060875
Not him, but I would agree

Then again, I find some furries hot, so what the hell do I know

>>49053406
Why do people always post mobile Wikipedia links on /tg/?

>>49060905
Early China had a memetically draconian legal system. Allegedly, one of their laws forbade any civil servants from lateness -- on pain of death.

One man's army was bogged down by torrential rain, and were certain to be late for their posting. So, they did what any sensible general would. They rebelled against the state, because why wouldn't you.

This is probably semi-mythical bullshit. The rebellion probably happened, and became the source of much commie propaganda/wish fulfilment.

>>49060890

That's the spirit!

>>49060946
They don't.

This is why /pol/fags and conservatives are as unwelcome in tabletop gaming as SJWs.

>>49061131
/pol/acks don't care about that shit though. Most young teenagers never got introduced to that kind of religious outrage.

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>>49061131
I'm fine with conservatives in my game as long as they don't complain about anything that doesn't 100% align with their view of the world as "liberal propaganda".

Same goes with SJWs getting "triggered" by random shit.

Niggers, we're trying to play a game and have a good time. Leave your personal politics out of this shit.

Luckily my group doesn't pull this shit.

>>49060617
idk, Sunni muslims of the 4 schools of thought seems to be cool with each other.

Ahhh, but then there are the Wahabis...
So, yeah, a little

>>49061377
They're all the same religion, besides.

>>49060683
Ughhh THOSE ones.

Yeah, I hate that scholastically lazy horseshit.

All I got from my parents was "Well at least he has friends now"

>>49061406
Yeah, but as you (or whoever) said

>>Most religions are not founded on a basis which allows for other interpretations to be correct. Those which are, tend to be tied to ethnicity.

And the 4 sunnis schools allow for different interpretation.
It's actually kind of funny, because Wahabism is pretty damn Arab, and they oftentimes crap on the other 4 schools of thought.

So I mean...exceptions usually exist.

>>49061522
What I meant was that your standard religion isn't going to say "yeah, Christianity's all right, you may as well be Christian", otherwise they -- usually -- wouldn't exist.

There are exceptions (mostly modern), but that's not what I meant.

>>49061560
Ah ok sorry bruv.

My uncle used to play way back in the 80's, so my parents didn't give a hoot. They think it's good socializing.

>>49061560
>What I meant was that your standard religion isn't going to say "yeah, Christianity's all right, you may as well be Christian"
Eh. None really say "being X is just as good as our religions", but a few religions generally do at least tolerate other religions.

Jews don't really focus on proselytizing, so the common Jewish stance about Christians is generally "well, they're following a heretic, but at least it gets the gentiles to respect God."

In Islam, Jews and Christians are considered "People of the Book", so their scriptures basically say "eh, good enough, let them do their thing, at most just tax them".

Now both groups aren't too wild about people of their own groups leaving for others, as said, but there's a few nuances to how certain religions treat other ones.

Hinduism and Buddhism are also pretty liberal when it comes to other religions, but a ton of them fucking hate Muslims due to the history they have with each other in India.

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>>49044220
>Mfw the original fire elemental card got it banned in my school

>>49044238
>Tfw you will never live in the ultimate Police State where Law and Order permeate the very air.

Y continue existence?

>>49044010
I had moved in with my dad by the time I started playing RPGs. Before that though my mom stole a bunch of my books and threw them away while I was gone. Her crazy zealot boyfriend told her that they were possessing my mind or something, and that's why I didn't want to convert to Christianity.

>>49044170
>not relishing in the opportunity to do battle with demons
It's like they're not even Christians.

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>>49062481

Buddhism does have a fair share of religious sectarianism, though. Witness the stink over the Dalai Lama's attitude towards the followers of Dorje Shugden:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden_controversy

>Dalai Lama: I never specifically said "ban!"

>>49060571
This guy gets it!

I miss the days when conservatives were trying to kill our hobby instead of liberals.

>>49063490
Liberals aren't trying to kill your hobby. They're trying to change it.

That's better than killing.

>>49063527
Is it though?

>>49063555
Yes.

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>>49047762
>First time players
>Not all female players ever

>>49063527
>That's better than killing.
Depends
Some say killing is better because afterwards you can still rebuild it like it was. For them changing it means not being able to start anew since a "perversion" of their hobby remains.
Some say changing is better because even though many things change you can still stay the same and sometimes change can do good. For them killing it means that it may not return if you wait too long.

It mostly is a matter of preferences

>>49063527
>You should fuck the goblins, not genocide them, you shitlords!
>Better than being mistaken for demon-conjuring occultists

Yeah, nah.

>>49063593
They're trying to change it, anon, they haven't done it. And they won't; there's too much friction.
>>49063595
Playing pretend is normally something you do in-game, anon, not in real life.

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>>49044195
Had the same problem back in the 80's - several of our friends were unable to play with us, and the one who dared, got caught, and was grounded for a month.

...Oddly that one was a Hindu, while the rest were Baptists and Presbyterians, so...

(Then again the Deities and Demigods of the age was rather disrespectful of Hindus.)

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>>49058667
I feel like 2 is just furry and 3 is embarrassingly furry, then 4 is disney. 1 would be 'semi-furry' if that was a word that anyone used anywhere I guess.

Personally I don't feel like it is furry until there starts to be actual fur instead of just tail/ears/teeth/eyes.

Is there an actual definition of furry somewhere?

>>49060617
Hinduism tends to be a bit more open in religious dialogue than others but that has to do more with the personal and overall nebulous nature of it

>>49044010
When I was about twelve, I started a D&D group at my church's youth group. My friends and I only played a couple sessions, but one of the mothers of another kid found out about it, and she told the pastor to come in and "investigate".

He knew nothing at all about D&D, so when he came in, he just asked us some questions while she stood there looking scandalized. After a couple minutes, he told her that it seemed like a perfectly harmless game, and that he didn't see anything wrong with it. She acted appalled and stormed out with her son, and I never saw either of them again, so I assumed they changed churches or something.

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D&D was practically Satanic though...

I doubt that any of the anti-D&D churches did their research, but if they had, especially with AD&D in the 80's - they woulda had their fears confirmed.

I mean, it listed the nine hells, the seven heavens, listed several "real" Christian mythological demons, including Belial, Beelzebub, and Asmodeus - I think even Ba'al was in there somewhere. Really, it was if Gygax was *trying* to egg them on.

I suppose the intent was that you'd be battling them and their minions, but there was nothing saying you couldn't do the opposite.

...And even today, as I understand it, there's some sect of Lawful Good devil worshippers (fuck you Ayn Rand GTFO muh D&D!), in addition to a whole playable race that basically has made heritable blood contracts with rulers of Hell.

I remember, at the time, using the excuse "D&D isn't Satanic - that's AD&D!" to get our friends outta trouble (all the while ignoring the fact that we were actually playing AD&D.)

It also didn't help that every edgy-teen who was a self-proclaimed Satanist pretty much used the Monster Manual as his reference book. (Though, if you've ever read the Satanic Bible - it kinda encourages such things...)

Again, I doubt their reasoning was so solid, but they coulda made a pretty good case, if they had bothered to look into it.

>>49059674
Junior RPGs might make good recess activities and even learning tools

>>49060617
while I am a practicing Lutheran myself I find that details in a book ultimately crafted by mortal hands {inspired by divine word or not] can be suspect at times, I feel that nearly every faith has a piece of the picture, possibly because mortals cant actually process the real thing

>>49064594
>D&D was practically Satanic though...

>I mean, it listed the nine hells, the seven heavens, listed several "real" Christian mythological demons, including Belial, Beelzebub, and Asmodeus - I think even Ba'al was in there somewhere. Really, it was if Gygax was *trying* to egg them on.

The Bible also has Satan in it. Does that make Christianity satanic?

>>49061241
an important thing I remember when a work clashes with my ideals, be they political, ethical or spiritual, IT IS FICTION

>>49044160
>lycanthrope: the rape

i have never noticed this before, incredible, its like everytime i look something new is added.

>>49060683
wait they really Did worship the devil? was this in the Gnostic manner where they did it purely to gangsay what the Churches said, or was it Sincere spill the blood of the innocent shit?

>>49062677
in fairness all the Tibetan monks don't actually want to "free Tibet" just to go back to ruling it under their religious practices

>>49044010
When I was a kid, I went to a daycare in Florida that banned MtG cards because they were Satanist. My mother practically had a heart attack when my father bought me a Playstation 2, for similar reasons. I bet she'd think D&D is evil.

Thank fuck I'm well the fuck out of there.

>>49064922
Conservative Baptist here. To a point, agreed. The Bible is, if you accept the "divine authority" argument (I really do, though not in the Ken Ham/Tim Lahaye sense), the Word of a Being (The Being, in the Platonic sense) an order of consciousness greater than the observable Universe itself trying to explain Himself to (and implement a plan for) late Bronze Age shepherds and mercenaries who've glommed together into a vaguely recognizable tribe.

It's like a programmer trying to explain coding to the data within the program. Except the data has a mind and will of its own and a minority of it is actively rebellious. That is AFTER the master program He created to keep things in order took one look at His plan and recoiled in disgust.

It's simply not possible for said shepherds, mercenaries, and little tribesmen to conceive His ideas, much less attempt to understand them. Eventually He HAS to enter this creation just to ensure the Plan stays on track. We're STILL having serious issues interpreting the instructions, even though they're generally clear and generally helpful, especially for a Bronze Age society trying to survive in a hostile environment.

>>49065019
Some of the late Victorian/ Edwardian occultic societies that Wicca grew out of did. The Wiccans LOvE to pretend their some ancient mystery cult from Elder Days Before the Fall of Magic, but they simply ain't.

(And would prefer you never mention Aliester Crowley)

>>49060946
because the same guy keeps doing it

>>49047557
Are you 100% sure they weren't being sarcastic?

>>49050457
But he's using those words correctly.

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>>49060837
>>49058667

>>49065769
Honestly, I put Kemonomimi and Furry under the umbrella of of "Monster Girls" itself. If it's both monster and (humanoid) girl, I consider it a monster girl.

Why I take time to consider classifications like this, I have no idea.

>>49065769
what is the difference between the monster girl and the kemonomimi

>>49065134
Oh, I forgot an amusing anecdote about it. This was during the first great pokemon craze, and after the administration decided "Magic cards" were banned, all the Pokemon fans went nuts after a rumor spread due to a misunderstanding that it was "Magikarps" - as in, specifically, the one card Magikarp - was banned because it was somehow Satanic. Several of the staff thought this was the case too and some kids got in trouble for trading or playing the Pokemon CCG before the administrator clarified.

Satanist magikarps.

>>49064944
You can't have Satan without God, anon.

Yes, by some ignorant crypto logic, the Bible can be labeled Satanic.

>>49044010
Same people that wanted to ban us back then are now so desperate to get into this hobby even though they understand 0% of it. Just because it's the new cool thing.

>>49066062
I suppose the thing with that is that foxes, cats, dogs, etc, are not really monsters and thus a catgirl is usually not comparable to say, a harpy or a naga.

I too spend too much time thinking about this stuff and it isn't even a fetish for me. Though I did grow up with an extreme fascination for mythologies, mostly Greek.

>>49044010
dammit I thought that was a chick

>>49066087
Monster girl has arms, legs, and claws.

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>>49066434
What about something like a Kumiho, where they appear to have at most ears/tail but can potentially have claws or shapeshift and are clearly monsters?

>>49066524
That depends on the form they take. Those examples only categorize physical appearance.

>>49066615
From what I can tell they seem to usually have three forms, though myths vary.

Human form, which is either mostly normal looking but kind of foxish or has ears/tail that must be physically hidden.

Fox form, used for escape and whatever.

And the form they briefly take somewhere between you taking your clothes off and dying, where they tear your internal organs out of your chest with their claws and devour them. Kind of like how a vampire keeps his fangs hidden until it is time to drink.

I suppose you could argue that they are the same category of thing that a vampire is since you can just replace the bat in 'insane magical bat-like human' with fox, but these lines are getting too blurry for me to decide. Some people think vampire lolis are monstergirls too so hell if I know.

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>>49066986
Just stick to the Divine Guidance of the God-Emperor of Man, and you cannot go wrong.

>>49065019

The other guy covered the 19th century, but there were links between witches and satanism in the 18th century, and 17th, and on back into the middle ages.
We have statements, and other things written by self-professed witches, that acknowledge stuff like Black Mass rites mocking the Catholic Church's Mass, and things of that sort.
Largely it appears to have been a reaction to the church's movement to suppress local beliefs. (Various tarot decks have long featured imagery mocking the church as a bunch of fools, for a similar example.)
Modern Wicca proponents like to make the religion into a passive victim who wouldn't hurt a fly, but there wasn't a lot of passive back in the middle ages, they were engaged in a war and it wasn't going well.

>>49066262

Fundamentalist christians want to play D&D now? Where are you that this is happening?

>>49067234
It's actually pretty common, these days, for various local churches to have D&D groups... The largest guilds in many MMO's are also Christian groups.

Times have changed.

>>49065489
Yeah, I am. One of them said something about acting out demonic rituals or something. I made up an excuse about having to go and mana burned myself to death.

>>49067036
>This is a cat, citizen
I chuckled

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>>49067234
>Fundamentalist christians want to play D&D now?
Sure. Why not.

>>49068090
The best is the railroading raven, who comes down and tells you when you've strayed from the GM's intended path.

>>49064594
Dude, of course it featured that stuff. Gygax was a christian. He made a game where you could beat up demons and ask god (s) to help you beat up demons even more. The alignment system is rooted in a christian moral absolutism. He wrote what he knew. Belial, Beelzebub, and Asmodeus were in there as villains because to Gynax they were the villians.

>>49068448
reminds me of the doom controversy, yes it had demons but they were specifically there to be heroically murdered by you the hero

>>49068448
I mean, the original alignment system didn't even involve a good/evil axis, but instead denoted to which of the two primordial forces you were allied, if either. Gygax also later said that the good/evil axis was a mistake.

>>49068448
>Implying I didn't mention that...
>Implying you can't just play evil devil-worshipping characters...

>>49069845
Well, there's also the fact that, even in a heroic campaign, the DM still has to play all the evil devil-worshipping NPCs. (Which was often embellished with some kids fanatically screaming in pho-latin.)

...This may have concerned some parents, perhaps more so than Harry Potter...

>>49044406
Wait hol up.
hol up

Are you saying I could run an RPG campaign where the primary source of drama and conflict comes from RPG gaming materials. Books, dice, and tabletop stuff in general?

So we would be playing characters playing RPGs and suffering the consequences in game with whatever weird demi-Christian bullshit gets conjured up into this weird Chickverse?

I could pretend to run around town with my buddies converting people from the terror of RPG's and stamping out their presence from local games stores?
I kinda want to play this.
GURPS?

>>49046349
>Thread in /tg/ about Jack Chick fuckery
>People in thread sure in their convictions that this game doesn't fuck with their brains
>1 reply is a simple command:
>Rape your dad.

You gamers sure had me going, but I knew you all sucked devil dick. Let me know when BEELZEBUB finishes cornholing your behinds!

>>49070621
I'm almost inspired to write up one of those one-page PDF RPG games.

Hrmm... What to call it... "D&D is Satan!" or "D&D Deus Vult!" or....

>>49065272
Meh, even if the Bible were literally written directly by the hand of God on undellable gold plates, in every language that ever was or would be... You still have it being read, and thus interpreted, by fallible humans.

I mean, if you think D&D rules lawyers are bad...

>>49070709
You could even make different games cause different consequences:
>D&D
Satan worship, Rock and Roll, Conjures demons
>Shadowrun
Machine sodomy, computer viruses, self-mutilation and body mods
>FATE
Fudge gluttony, Schizophrenia, you begin rapidly de-aging until eventually you're a baby.
>V:tM
Summons vampires that spread rumors that you think you're really a vampire. Said vampires will NEVER turn you.
>GURPS
No obvious effect but slowly converts you into a loyal cultist serving a mysterious 5-letter deity.

I was home alone studying the Bible one Friday evening when the doorbell rang. I answered the door to find a pair of clean cut young men wearing white shirts and ties. They told me they were missionaries from Wizards of the Coast and invited themselves into my living room. They brought many pamphlets and books and dice with them and taught me how to play Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition and a card game called Magic the Gathering. Now I have many friends and don't have to stay home alone on Friday nights reading the Bible because I have gaming events to attend. Hail Hasbro!

>>49044406
Dogs in the Vineyard is the closest thing I can think of.

>ITT: being a fundamental christian will turn your family into shit
Who could have guessed?

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>>49044209
Why would you want to?

>>49044260
Maybe your dad just knew how shit D&D was compared to other systems.

>>49044406
>Oh also, how does his friend survived fucking demons?
He didn't
He is the demons

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>>49045159
>suffering witches to live

>>49066615
Right, the real monstergirl was inside us all along

I came here for some stories about the good old days and all I got was a bunch of self righteous fedora tippers. I consider myself an athiest but the amount of anti-Christianity wankery happening here is cringeworthy and juvenile at best.

>>49044170
>gave me anti dnd propaganda.

So what did they give you? GURPS core book? Pathfinder? FATE? Dungeon World?

>>49060990
But it makes a good story, and if you hadn't mentioned it, I would have.

>>49073215
I thought this thread was being pretty magnanimous, considering a bunch of young boys were being cheated out of their favorite pastime by a bunch of crazy people.

I mean, look at the (still ongoing) response to #gamergate, where a bunch of white knights, sluts, and SJW lesbos just tried to simply slightly alter the favorite pastime of bunch of young boys.

>>49065330
They worshipped Satan as edgelords, not actual devotees of a religion.
>>49067203
Yeah no. People admit to just about anything under totrure, usually what they think their captors want them to say. To my knowledge, real, organized devil-worship has never been a thing and likely never will be. People aren't exactly going to flock to a religion that promotes itself as evil and tells you you're going to end up in Hell. As for mocking the church, well, no shit. People often mock those who wield power over them, especially when they clearly use it for their own gain, as was often the case with the Church.

>>49073503
Addendum: Wicca is bullshit, please don't take me for an apologist. I'm personally an agnostic monotheist.

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>>49071856
Does Testament count?

Anyway, the worst I got was way back in... some time in the early to mid 90s. It was well before 3e was even conceptually a thing and TSR was still around. Well, me and my older brother, who got me into D&D after getting into it with his friends, were looking for D&D books in one of those major chain bookstores that actually existed in our area (we didn't have ANY LGSs anywhere near our hometown) and when we asked this lady who worked at the shop she very spitefully told us "we don't sell SATANIC books here."

Actually there was another time my mom told some lady at her church to fuck off after she tried to "warn" her about letting us play D&D,

>>49044220
We were banned from playing mtg in high school bc our teachers tought we were gambling (there was money, dice and cards involved) . Dnd and whatnot was shied away only as childish never as dangerous/ satanic and I attended a Catholic school in a post communist country.

>>49045037
You sound like a cool guy.

>>49069889
>pho-latin
>pho
nigger you what
Also cut it out with all the fucking ellipses, what's wrong with you?

>>49044010
My friend's mom was apparently like that back in the day, not wanting them to play tabletop or video games and having a bunch of videos and pamphlets on that kind of stuff.

I'm a Son of a Prteacher man.

I mean I've had a few people give me shit in my church. Mostly out of what seemed to be genuine (allbeit misguided) convern.

Its really this one older couple in my church.
Jon and Joan.

We put up with it throughout our teens.
Now that Im in my mid 20s I sort of just make fun of them.

These days its more of a "You mellenials are so lazy. I had a business of my own when I was your age. Why are you so irresponsible with money"

"YOU SHOULD SHOP AT A THRIFT STORE FOR CLOTHES"
>I do shop at a thrift store for clothes.

"YOU SHOULD GET A JOB THAT GETS YOU 40 HOURS A WEEK"
>I do work 40 hours a week.

"THEN WORK PARTTIME ON WEEKENDS"
>No. Absolutely not. Id go nuts if I worked everyday and What was the 5th comandment again?

"HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO RAISE A FAMILY?"
>Thats a really good question.

Im usually polite but I did go off on Joan when she condescendingly asked a black friend of mine who recently lost his job if he spends his money on new sneakers instead of saving it.

He was politely breaking down the cost of busfare, the cost of living and what was in his account whjen I interrupted them

Sorrry sorry. Rabbit trail. Fuck I hate those people.

>>49076010
>5th commandment
4th commandment*

>>49044220
Were you born in the dark ages?

>>49076010
>THEN WORK PARTTIME ON WEEKENDS
I'm from the 90's and I wouldn't do that! What I'm getting at is that's not a "millennial" thing, thats a "I want a fucking life" thing! because seriously, if you are working 40hrs a week AND part time on weekends, when exactly are you supposed to have time for a life. Because I'm not seeing it in the schedule.

>>49073503
>. People admit to just about anything under totrure,

A favorite excuse of modern Wiccans, and a true one, but it doesn't apply to all of the sources. We have occult books by occultists who took down the words of witches, and other books written by those witches. No torture involved.

>>49073503
It isn't always torture that gets people to talk.

I read a really old book that went over old lycanthropy cases and a good chunk of the people who had done stuff like tear young girls apart and eat them raw were put in basically christain asylums where they confessed what they had done and how it came to that, obviously without torture.

One of the most interesting things I noticed was that the balm used to cause the 'transformation' was often given to them by a shady man in the woods, sometimes around black mass.

To say that there has *never* been organized devil-worship would be kind of insane and require that you never actually examined anything related to it.

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>>49076010
>it's the "millennials are irresponsible with money" episode

>"you should spend less on yourself"
>"you should waste more time on your job"
>"you should think about spending money on other people that you haven't even met yet"
Every time.

>>49073852
To be fair if you were playing with the old ante rules it was pretty much gambling.

How great would it be to lose your 40 dollar waifu planeswalker because you got manafucked?

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Back when I was in 4th or 5th grade my friends and I started getting shit over playing Magic. A few overly religious kids kept quoting shit from the 700 Club and saying we were devil worshipers.

We eventually had to have a parent/teacher meeting where the school said they were cool with our hobby since we only talked about it during lunch.

>>49060571
Isn't this how it works ini Detroit?

>>49061131
/pol/fags are not really conservatives
They just hate niggers

>>49068696
This shit will always be strange to me
I can understand why christians can think Harry Potter is satanic
But fucking Doom? Diablo? Games that are just about humans murdering thousands of deamons?
What is wrong with it?

>>49077639

It's pretty straightforward.

>Who needs Jesus when we have shotguns and shit, lol?

The idea that you can beat the power of Satan by being cool and mean and well-armed is antithetical to Biblical teachings. Without God on your side, you will be led astray and that's the end of that.
From this POV, telling people that they could totally beat Satan on their own is just plain lying to them and leading them on a merry path to hell. Pride before a fall, and all that.

>>49077705
But what if it was God that gave Doomguy shotgun?
He works in mysterious ways

>>49077551
Michigander here. There are parts of Detroit where the stop lights don't even work any more. Seeing a cop out of the money districts is rare, and you'd have to be a dumb fucker to mess with them.

>>49077724

If they had put that in the intro, a lot of fundies would have been onboard from the get-go.

>>49077705
Actually, I'm pretty sure their reasoning is way less deep than that. I'm like 90% sure it boils down to "this game has scary monsters, satan made it."

>>49076271

I asked them that every time it comes up/
They look at me like I'd suddenly spoken dwarfish.

They're of the generation that worked their entire lives and now are too old and tired and set in their ways to do all the living and traveling they were planning on once they retired.

The friend and I kept joking about becoming robots when she told me to get part time work

"well If I did become a machine now would be a good time because the price of gas is lower than its been in ages"

"Hey yeah! Good thinking. But be careful another model will come out in 6 months and you'll be replaced"


Actually come to think of it they havn't done that shit since we laughed at her to her face.
We bullied an old woman into fucking off. Hooray!

>>49077807
It's probably not exactly homogeneous. There are definitely some people who think about it hard enough that >>49077705 is more in line with their argument, but there are also definitely people who think Lord of the Rings is Satanic despite the fact its basically all about >>49077705 in the first place.

>>49077371
Capitalism, ho!
>be a good slave, boy

>>49077824
>We bullied an old woman into fucking off. Hooray!
under most circumstances that would make you a horrible person, emphasis on MOST circumstances, this is an exception to that as she was being quite the stereotypical grumpy old biddy.

kudos to you.

All this about MTG and DnD, was I the only kid here that played YuGiOh? Everyone on my street played it in some cool teenager's garage for a year or two. With rules we made up, obviously.

I remember having a friend I met at my brother's basketball games, we would play YiGiOh and the gameboy pokemon games under the bleachers together. Until one day when his mother asked his preacher about the cards and he said demons lived in them so from then on we had nothing in common and didn't hang out, so I developed a habit of wandering around bored at those games constantly while he just sat on the bleachers.

>>49061131

Killing goblins for money is plenty redpilled you commie scum.

>>49077824
>They're of the generation that worked their entire lives and now are too old and tired and set in their ways
how old are they?

>>49078147

Not really sure. I know Jon was a young boy when WWII ended because he told me a story about it once.

>>49077371
In their defense, most are. I'm tired of seeing tards that think buying a new phone is a priority over paying the bills.

But then again, many people of their gen are also very irresponsible with money, it's just they fucked up so hard that we can usually find them in the grave or in the ghettos/trailer parks.

>>49078271

> I'm tired of seeing tards that think buying a new phone is a priority over paying the bills.

For every dipshit like that I know 3 people busting their asses with a flip phone

Im one of them. And I live in a fucking van.
I repeat. I live in a fucking van.

>>49077705
>new DOOM
>Doomguy is an ancient being that wakes up to save mankind from demons and satanists

Just tell them that Doomguy is actually Saint Marine Doomguy, proud american and vanquisher of evil shitheads.

>>49078361
I have a completely opposite experience, living a very shitty place. But I'm willing to concede that tards might just be noisier, which they always are.

Ever notice how people who fuck up or have fucked up ideas tend to stand out?

>>49078361

Yeah, there have always been irresponsible people, and it's disingenuous to pretend it's just the millenials, or even disproportionately the millenials. (I say this as a guy born in the 70s.)
It's basically just a dumb meme that's caught on and is propelled by confirmation bias.

>>49045803
At least they aren't still decapitating you like the durkas.

>>49078421
Hence why I put
>But then again, many people of their gen are also very irresponsible with money
I'm pretty sure that they get weeded out with time.

>>49078439

Nah, they're still around. Most of 'em manage to scrape by somehow.

>>49073428
>Simply alter

Understatement of the millennium.

>>49078211
>Not really sure. I know Jon was a young boy when WWII ended because he told me a story about it once.
so he at least in his late 70's, early 80's then?
eh, sounds right to be an old curmudgeon. I'm not saying everyone from that generation was, just that I can believe that this guy would be.

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>>49073503
>People aren't exactly going to flock to a religion that promotes itself as evil and tells you you're going to end up in Hell.
Well, it doesn't say the latter... Satanism basically says the same thing that Ayn Rand does, only more colourfully. (Occasionally quoting her and Nietzsche directly in the Satanic Bible.)

But you do realize that there are so many registered member of the LaVeyan Church of Satan, that their burial rights literally appear in the Mariners Handbook. (Nevermind all the worshippers of Ayn Rand in the same party containing the Religious Right.)

>>49047568
D&D /is/ a game you can win or lose
toppestkek.jpeg

>>49077807
It's something they don't understand, therefor it's satanic

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I may be late for the party, but I saved this from a previous thread. This was written in 2013 on some french website
Enjoy

>>49079632
What if he was playing the Star Wars RPG?
would they say Star Wars was satanic?

I just stepped in it, didn't I?

>>49079906
These are the same organizations who claim "The Force" is promoting the occult, so, yeah.

Have fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cplqGLZgtI

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>>49079959

>>49065018
It's Lycanthrope: the rampage actually anon

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>>49079734
Sounds like Fabienne Guerrero, who had her moment of fame among geeks when she denounced the evil of pokemon and Harry Potter because we rarely get people like that in France, or they remain very obscure even inside their church.

Apparently she was an ex "new age" girl that got "saved" in a pilgrimage. She literally said she heard holy voices, seems to actually believe various new age things (chakras, third eye, "kundalini" (?), but not reincarnation) are perfectly real but dangerous, opening someone to undefined "influences" and cutting you from god. She even to asked a priest to "close her third eye", didn't even knew that was a thing.

Yep, pick related spent her youth in the "sins of the flesh", picture that.

>>49045707
This is pretty much the plot of SMT.

>>49060248
Monstergirl furries in denial.

>>49080363
>because we rarely get people like that in France
Come to America - WHERE IT'S THE FUCKING NORM!

/seeeth

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>>49081153
>living in the Bible Belt
>any year

>>49058667
Replace fox stuff with dragon stuff and I'd a 1-3.

>>49081184
Sadly, I'm in Commiefornia.

>>49053406
No, not Black Leaf! NO! NO! I'm going to DIE!

>>49076010
>"HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO RAISE A FAMILY?"
>Thats a really good question.
Right in the feels anon

>>49055308
The girl who checked me out at the grocery store today was named Chyna. I asked about it and, yes, it is pronounced just like the country.

>>49064996
>if you wonder how they tax and vote, and other gov'ment facts
>repeat to yourself "it's just a game, i should really just relax"

>>49077870
>>49077870
>Capitalism, ho!
>Slave
Capitalism is the best economic system yet for producing innovation and responding to market demands.
However it needs good regulation or moderation or you get a small group of greedy assholes who climb to the top then metaphorically burn the ladder behind them by creating stagnant wages and get rid of opportunity to advance.

Basically what we have in 'Murrica with the corporate heads purchased the government 40 years ago and now they essentially write the laws governing how they get to do business.

>>49044010
Had a friend a long while ago whose dad was super-anti-d&d, claimed to have been assaulted by people driven insane by d&d. Said father also forbade my friend from watching/playing Pokémon of all things, but allowed YuGiOh, which let's be honest is hella more satanic than Pokémon.

Then a few years later I actually got the chance to play it, and saw his bullshit was actually bullshit.

>>49070709
Just call it "Dark Dungeons"

>>49081153
>sadtruth.jpg

>>49077639
To be fair, in Diablo 2, you can play as a necromancer.

>>49079959
I KNEW George Lucas was the antichrist!

>>49081623
>claimed to have been assaulted by people driven insane by d&d.

How would he even know this? Did his assailants scream "YAAAARGH! I'm assaulting you because Dungeons and Dragons made me crazy!!!"

>>49057882
>He recently decided he was gender-queer, which personally seems silly to me because he has like zero sexual drive or identity

Sounds genderqueer to me. Specifically Agender, maybe genderfluid.

'Queer' is a catchall term for anything that isn't, uh, cis? Same gender as you were assigned at birth. Whatever.

>>49057882
>In any case, you have to give his parents some credit, as apparently, despite being mystified about his... gender identity, they were still accepting of him and reiterated their love for him. Given their crazy level of religiousness and right-wing political views (their church apparently preaches about how the homosexual agenda is destroying the country and trying to turn people away from God), it's not necessarily the reaction you would've expected.

Aww, crowning moment of heartwarming.

>>49082179
Weaponised dices maybe?

>>49082650
They were screaming about caster supremacy

>>49082179
>walking down alley at night
>suddenly crazed teens everywhere
>the last thing you remember is someone yelling "ROLL INITIATIVE!"

>>49062609
vote Trump

>>49082650
>YFW this actually does drive people crazy

>>49062609
Love is big brother. That's why.

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>>49082808
Even plastic d4's are essentially caltrops though...

>>49077639
Believe it or not, most of those people don't care about the plot. They just see demons and flying guts everywhere while metal is playing and draw conclusions from there.
There's a Satan-worship conspiracy theory linked to Hello Kitty of all things. Amusingly enough the first time I saw it it claimed it was made either in Philippines or somewhere in South America by a desperate father who turned to dark arts to save his sick daughter; took them a while to adjust for the fact that Hello Kitty was designed by a Japanese woman.

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>>49077995
>All this about MTG and DnD, was I the only kid here that played YuGiOh?

>>49084922
Yugioh is over 15 years old.

My family is full of "the bible is objective fact" fundamentalists. They fucked me up in lots of ways, thankfully I was a full on adult when I got into tabletop. My little cousin however is really interested, but his mom is super weird about it. She denies that it's a religious thing, but she also doesn't have a good reason for vetoing it. It sucks because I'd really like to have someone to always play with.

>>49060875

He's right though. Going by your spaztarded logic you might as well call pure humans 'furry' on the grounds that they're anthro apes.

>lol u liek humens, u wanna fukk monkeys!!! XDDDDD

That's you, that is. That's how you are.

>inb4 umad

>>49085613

If these "pure humans" were being drawn with monkey tails you might have a point.

>>49085613
Your argument is as nonsensical as it is late and angry.

>>49080714
On that topic I'm actually making an SMT fan game, and while play testing it I find it kind of disappointing that I can't go "You have a special portable computer called a COMP!" When there's no need for a COMP because phones exist. So I made the COMP a free2play game app that tricks people into becoming demon summoners.

>>49085780

Yeah, I'd like to take a moment to also point out that going all "I'm NOT a furry, okay? I just happen to get off to these girls who happen to have animal parts!" is such a furry thing to do that it's practically a cliche.

Memes aside, it's all part of the same thing, IMO, just different ratios of human to animal. A difference of degree, not kind.

But so what? It's not like I care what you're into, furry, monstergirl, weeb, whatever. As long as you're not a 'tard about it, why should anyone care?

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I really wish that I could sit some of these people down and run a session for them.

Get them to play clerics, paladins and crusaders, or whatever jumps out at them, and put them in a campaign where they have to repel demons from the lands of the commonfolk in the name of substitute Jesus.

>>49047762
This picture is a collaborative effort of at least 2 porn artists I recognize.

>>49050457
>policing the words others use
YOU sound like a feminist.

>>49086281

It's just like Neitzsche said, shitpost not against stupid people on the internet, lest you become a stupid person, and if you gaze into the retarded slapfight, the retarded slapfight gazes also into you.

>>49086011
>substitute Jesus
Not real Jesus, that's the most heretical thing since the Catholic church's jesuit ninja assassins that really totally exist and aren't just a figment of Jack Chick's fucked up brain.
These are the same people who say that the works of C.S. Lewis are satanic despite him being a devout christian for his entire life, even after he put a allegorical Jesus lion in his books. Having an imagination at all is a sin to these people.

>>49086586
First of all, Lewis was an atheist before he converted to Christianity. Second of all.

>jesuit ninja assassins

Greetings citizen of the Imperium, this man is clearly possessed by chaos to believe such nonsense. Would you mind telling me where he lives?

>>49044170
>YOU WILL BE KILL BY DEMONS
>and then John was a zombie

>>49077705
>be me 12 BC
>be peaceful farmer
>go to hell

>be Jewish
>go to heaven after being crucified by Romans and other Jews for pretending to be a messiah
>jokes on them you stole their coinpurses and bribed god

>>49072707 https://youtu.be/UvaEohNgk8M

>>49080363
>She even to asked a priest to "close her third eye", didn't even knew that was a thing.

>>49081250
State of Jeffersom?