>all this internet drama between regressive and lolbertarian

Internet drama is mostly just that. Internet drama.

Strangely enough, people are even more vitriolic without anonymity.

>>48979427
>But nobody is actively talking about politics. Nobody is crying censorship, or caring about the "10 white men" who made Conspiracy, or that there's a black planeswalker, or a transgender khan.

That's because these people don't actually play the game, they're online activists that fling controversy from the safety of their apartment.

>>48979427
The people who start drama are inevitably the people who benefit from it. Youtubers and shitty clickbait sites need hits, so they fabricate controversy out of whole cloth. It also makes them feel important. Professional victimhood, and reactionary lashing out at professional victimhood, are now both growing entertainment industries.

>>48979427
you know this drama is 100% manufactured bullshit when even reddit isn't talking about

>Magic needs better internal representation of people other than white males
>As written by a self proclaimed "hipster" white male

>>48979558
Self flagellation is an age-old method of virtue signalling.

>>48979535
>when even reddit isn't talking about
Jeff Hoogland tweeted about the MTG HQ drama today blasting him which started a flame war on the reddit. Funny enough this article was posted two days ago and all but two cuck downvoted to hell were saying how retarded this article was.

>>48979558
The best part is that Wizards is based out of Seattle, arguably one of the leftist cities of the west coast.

>Just out of curiosity, does anybody actually give a shit about this kind of stuff in your local gaming store?

I don't use YouTube for any purpose, so I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to.

As far as the "politics" of MtG card designs - I'm all for inclusiveness? I don't see why anyone would have a problem with WotC focusing some card designs on appealing to any niche audience. It might be silly for the developers to parade it around for "progressiveness" points, but that's still a retarded thing to get upset about.

>>48979746
>but that's still a retarded thing to get upset about.
people want to play a card game, not tumblr politics

>>48979746
Every other human creature card is a black person or a girl. They get just as much rep as the white boogeyman.

>>48980022
>not tumblr politics

But there aren't any politics in the game. You and your Tumblr boogeyman are the only ones carrying on about that shit.

This article is awful and you should feel bad for exposing it to all of us.

>>48979427
>what we learned

as with most regressive shit stains, they learned nothing but how everything is bad.

>>48980122
>But there aren't any politics in the game.
You're clearly an idiot, missing the point that much.

>>48979427
Author really needs to check his privilege if he can spend all that time writing this article in an expensive New York apartment.

People at my shop come to play magic, if I wanted to discuss politics, national/international news, or the "black planeswalker", no body would care. I wouldn't care if Jace is gay, if his card is relevant and good in a competitive deck, I'll play it. Who gives a shit about lore.

>>48980309
Vorthos players. :^)

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>>48979427
>(((Stein)))
/pol/ is always right
Praise KEK.

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>>48979491
>That's because these people don't actually play the game
kek. probably went 0-4 at FNM and wrote that article

>>48980330
The best kind of players

>>48980372
>Who came really close to making day two of a Grand Prix on several occasions.
Oh my

>10 white men developed and designed conspiracy
>it's good

So... every set should be designed by 10 white men?

>>48979427
Funny you say that, last fnm was kinda awkward for a bit during the draft because two people were disscusing politics (the state of the minimum wage) and those of us who were there just to play cards all tried to tune it out. for bonus points the people arguing were a young black woman and a young Indian man.

>>48980473
>two people were disscusing politics (the state of the minimum wage)
>a young black woman and a young Indian man

AETHER REVOLT CONFIRMED

>>48980455
It's good because its a secondary product and therefore the game designers have more freedom to make interesting and complicated mechanics. a lot of recent sets have suffered from being toned down to be easy to explain to newbies.

>>48979709
>arguably

>>48980523
I'm sorry, but I'm being lead to believe we need to take the race and sex of the designers into account, and the verdict seems to be that we need more white men designing these sets.

God, if only more white men played magic, then we could really expand and improve the game.

>>48980545
Portland is full of homeless self-identified minority trannies. Seattle is full of hipster coffee drinkers with a $15/hr min wage.

It's hard to tell which is worse.

>>48980497
the Indian guy was against raising it since he owned his own construction and landscaping bushiness and the black woman was for it, mostly on principal since she was a student. both made excellent points but id rather talk about cards when drafting.

>>48980670
>conversation at our last FNM draft devolved into Brexit discussion

>>48981724
Why do neckbeards care about this? Does this affect the speculator cabal's Euro sales?

>>48982550
It's been on the news a lot, so neckbeards like to bring it up in a desperate attempt to look informed on foreign affairs.

>>48982550
>>48982747
I find the whole brexit thing really interesting, but I don't really have friends I can talk to about it.

I have to actively stop myself from bringing it up at work because I know no one else there gives a shit since we're American blue collar workers.

>>48979427
>transgender khan.
Mtg is retarded

>>48979427
>It's a manufactured controversy episode
Shit, nowadays there's nothing new on TV

Dear America.
Can you kill all SJW, 3rs wave feminist and neo-liberals? they're leaking into the rest of countries.
Thank you, your neighbours, the rest of the world.

>>48982940
Lol, all of europe is way to the left of the US, that's why your union is breaking apart and you're within 10 years of murdering each other like you've always done since the dawn of time.

>>48982550

My LGS had to raise event prices as a result of the vote. It does have an effect.

>>48983095
Your LGS is playing you for fucking fools Anon.

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>>48980372
fucking lol

>>48982993
americans have no idea what europe is like.

they somehow imagine it is an entire continent of foppish parisian faggots sipping espresso and reading paperbacks in sidewalk cafes.

its like if Europeans genuinely believed all of america was like san fransisco

>>48982993
Anon, we're breaking apart because every country is turning into nationalist ultra conservative, that's literally the opposite of left.

>>48983136
this is true.

>>48979427
nope
the most you'll hear about internet drama at my LGS is the occasional 'triggered' joke, and people largely don't give a shit what feminists on the internet are saying unless it's to mock something exceptionally stupid

overall, there really aren't any discussions about anything on the far right or left - people there tend to talk more about games than anything. brexit was little more than a passing word on who voted what, for instance.

as far as conspiracy 2 goes, most of us who play magic are pretty excited for it - hell, one of my friends was going to drop magic outright before i told him about it, and we're likely going to set up a draft pretty much the moment it's out.
emn on the other hand had all the impact of a damp noodle and the countertop box for it is still filled with boosters. ema was only really relevant or discussed because the boosters for that were priced at like, £11 instead of the usual ~£3

>>48983095
hahaha, you're getting fucking scammed, mate

>>48983133
I thought Europeans thought Americans were all gun toting cowboys with fat wives and ugly children.

>>48983133
as an outside observer, people frequently do think all of america is like NYC or texas

>>48983136
But it is in response to massive leftist policies. People see the failure the left has wrought in Europe and want to be successful again.

"Wet streets cause rain" and all that.

>>48983177
I'd say they're both half right.

It's like saying Australia is full of shitposters. you're not exactly wrong.

>>48983095
>My LGS had to raise event prices as a result of the vote.
Your LGS is scamming you. I bet they raise FNM to £10 if Trump is elected. :^)

>>48983201
Australia is full 3ft flying spiders

>>48983133
You spout all that, but the guy is right.
European politics are far more left than America, and Britain along with Germany are screaming back towards their old, warmongering ways the moment their far left politics were put to the test.
We think the French and Italians sip expresso all day. The benefits of being American is that we can learn how your culture REALLY is, if we feel like it.

More like Cispiracy.

>>48983238
>murricans being in any position to call somebody 'warmongering'
s h a r t
i n
m a r t

>>48982550
The best card site in Europe uses euros, so I've put off buying stuff from MKM during the crash the pound had after brexit

>>48983265
>started WW 1 and 2
>hasn't known peace on the continent since the Romans
Fuck off, eurotrash. Americans don't deny being warmongers and openly love their guns and violence. At least we are honest.

>>48983290
>the crash that lasted literally a day before rebounding better than it was before Brexit

>>48983296
>Says the guy who in the span of 200 years had a conflict with literally every country in the world, even his own.

>>48983310
Are you blaming someone for events they weren't apart of?

Detected the cuck who apologizes for slavery.

>>48983318
>>started WW 1 and 2
does your LGS have a designated shitting aisle?

>>48983253
>Cis-piracy

"Arrgh matey, I'll be taking yer assigned gender as me own now!"

>>48983296
To be honest, Europe hasn't been in with themselves in 70 years, and only fought in conflicts because USA told them to. So makes sense that the last generations consider themselves less beligerant than America, who has been in several conflicts just in the last decade.

>>48983318
People should be sad for slavery, but never apologize for something they didn't do. It's funny blacks forget they were also slavers, and far more inhumane than whities with their slaves.

Trump is so going to win

>>48983296
>the Roman Empire
>anything resembling peace and stability

With the possible exception of the reign of Augustus, choose one and only one.

>>48983302
>Pre Brexit
> 1.40
> Now
> 1.17

>>48983310
>Says the guy whose nation hand a weighty hand in literally every major problem faced by the world today
Who turned the middle east into a shithole?
Who created Israel?
Who set up Mao to gain dominance?
Where is Russia?
Why is the entirety of Africa a hellhole?
Where did Americans stem from?
Europe is to blame for literally everything wrong in the world. Kill yourself, and take some of your countrymen with you.

>5 mins to read

What is this bullshit. My ebooks have been doing the same. 19 mins left in chapter. I hope I never reach a point in life where that is a useful feature.

>>48983265
Remind me who started 2 world wars?

>>48979427
>(((Stein)))

>>48983358
>tfw still worth more than the dollar

>>48983398
some faggot fucking krauts who've still started less recent wars than you

>>48983411
>kraut apologist

>>48979427
I don't understand these people who obsess over politics. I'm a fascist and I literally never mention it in public unless someone explicitly asks my beliefs.

>>48983366
>Who turned the middle east into a shithole?
USA in fact
>Who created Israel?
Also USA

>this thread has 72 replies

...boi

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>>48983411
>blaming Germany for ww1

Now who's historically ignorant?

>>48983435
Oooh, sorry! The correct answer was 'The United Kingdom,' but thanks for playing!

>>48983435
Actually, son, European colonization is to blame for the first, and Israel was Britain's idea.
Thanks for playing.

>>48983450
>>48983453
>UK
>Europe
Nice

>>48979427
>[there is] transgender khan
There WAS a tranny khan.
Get fucked.
t. Kolaghan.

>>48983435
>>Who created Israel?
>Also USA
While it is true that the USA was the deciding vote, it was the cucks in the EU who wanted it.

>>48983468
Get with the times, Europe is either a whole country or several depending what fits our narrative, and if only one of those countries (even those who never were in the EU or never were fully in it) does something, you all do that something by association.

>>48983468
amerifats can't distinguish between countries that aren't their own

>>48983468
The UK is part of Europe, yes. Are you historically AND geographically ignorant?

>>48983481
What does "t." Mean?

>>48983534
Short for terveisin which is "regards" in Finnish, how you'd write at the end of an informal letter or email.

>>48980022
>>48980090
I really couldn't give a shit what the gender or race of a card is. If they want to design cards for a wider audience I'm all for it. It doesn't change the actual gameplay and nobody actually gives a shit if your 2/3 flier is the correct shade of skin so seriously, who the fuck cares? Besides WotC for the diversity points of course.

>>48983534
Stupid Euro shit.
>>48983587
Also this

>>48983508
Mhmm.... no?
UK is albion, like spain and italy are africa.

Only true europe is us, the aryan übermensch germanics.

>We have to pander to groups of people that don't even buy the product we sell
Man, in what times we live in.

>>48980455
I don't need an army. I need ten white men.

>>48982993
>all of europe is way to the left of the US
Anon's talking about left wing identity politics, not actually socialist economic policies. The US basically doesn't have the latter, which might actually be why it's the world leader in the former to compensate.

I don't care this game has drawings of trasgenders, 404genders, agenders, furrygenders, phitogenders, 1/4Asian1/4Black1/4Caucasian1/4Xenomorph, etc, I don't care. My problem is when this cunts (including wotc who should be impartial) go with "it was about time [insert whatever you like] appeared in this your a fucking white male ridden game, you fucking racist, sexixt homophobic and transphobic pigs, make space, we're here to stay, deal with it" and the like.

>>48983411

>>tfw still worth more than the dollar

Do you have any clue how currency works?

>>48979427
>a transgender khan.

There were some laughs about the fact I decided to play Alesha EDH while myself being trans, but it was good natured. Just the sort of thing where a few friends were like "Oh, of course you'd be playing that!", you know.

>>48983237
Australian here, I've never seen a flying spider taller than two and a half feet, ergo you're full of shit.

>>48983788
Go pick a fight with a Cassowary

>>48983788
That sounds like exactly the sort of thing that a 3ft Flying Spider would post.

>>48983826
>implying a 3ft flying spider would associate with 2.5ft spiderlets anyway

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>>48980372
>Who came really close to making Day Two of a Grand Prix on multiple occasions
How bad do you have to be that you don't even make it to day 2

>>48979427
I don't get identity politics.
Who wants what?
Why?

What's bad about some dudes developing a table-top game?
Why is it bad that they are white?
Would this be the same if ten black fa/tg/uys sat down and developed a game?
When everybody deserves a "safe space", why is it the predominantly white one that is constantly assaulted?

Who sits down at his laptop and thinks: Wew lad, time for another le wyatt man hitpiece!

Can somebody please shed light on this shit?
I'm not murican, so I just dont get it.

>>48984131
Tumblrinas, essentially. In an age where political correctness and diversity take ever increasing amounts of priority, companies are expecte d to trip over themselves to let in Steve the transnigger with mystery genitals to farm good boy points so they can pat each other on the back. This has gotten to the point that you can't just trust cis white males to do their job in peace unless some faggots on the internet start bashing each other over how professionals doing what they were employed for reeks of mysoginy.

God must be taking a nap right now, if I have to unironically say this and be relevent to any discussion.

>>48983337
Actually laughed, thanks

but all in all, is /tg more leftist or more like /pol in your opinion?

>>48984503
more like /pol/

hell, the reddit thread about this had people laughing this article to the trash can. only two people posted in favor of it and they got -20 downvotes

>>48984503
/tg/ is basically proud antifa.
>>48984566
>>>/pol/

>>48984503
Compared to what? We're probably further left than the average American, but somewhat right-wing by Internet standards.

>>48983095
You dumb prick. You are being scammed LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I know this is a shitposting thread, but why did you mention libertarians? Why would libertarians have anything to do with this.

>>48984131
It gives freaks and weirdos a chance to exercise petty tyranny, which they jump at. Late stage civilization decay.

>>48984503
That is a highly contentious issue, /tg/ has a portion of its population that abhors politics and needless inflammatory shit that isn't stub. But it is hard to ignore the fact that 4chan and /tg/ by extension leans towards libertarianism and /pol/ due to the utter lack of features associated with shit libs websites: upvotes, identities to manage, consensus, language policing, and social signaling. The lack of these features does not make the individual users liberal or conservative but push the board culture towards the pol end of the stick rather than say Tumblr. IMO /tg/ while a political leans to the right since the excessives of the left tend to filter to their own communities which while true of the extreme right it is not at the same rates.

>>48983095
Fucking kek

>>48984131
>>48984212

Identity Politics only continue to exist in subcultures where the opposition to the tumblrina is incapable of refuting or ignoring their blather.

In other words, comic books and tabletop are so infested with these types because the average comic book or tabletop nerd is too socially awkward or inept to reliably ignore/ridicule them. This is why you never see tumblrina in rap, or in soccer/football, or in proper "big name" video game companies (Blizzard for example has a gay old time lewding up their mostly white cast in Overwatch.)

The common Tumblrina is an awkward stuttering mess that can't function in common society due to their toxicity and host of personality flaws, these people cast themselves to the fringe of society where other toxic, flawed people live. Ever wonder why it's always the pathetic white guy that sides with them? Girls you might call a "4/10" with borderline personality disorder? The only people who aren't outcasts that side with them have clear agendas.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is Identity Politics are a deep non-issue that only festers in places where social order and personal satisfaction tend to be in short supply, it's literally too consistent to find people who hate themselves or the direction their life is going side with these people to ignore the trend.

>>48984737
Did you just describe a cult ?

Why SJW and Feminists hate meritocracy?

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>>48984764
>Did you just describe a cult ?

Yes, yes I did.

>>48984765
Because they are not worthy of merit, is the obvious answer.

>>48984717
To fix auto correct errors: stub should be skub and that /tg/ is highly apolitical due to subject manner and hobbies consuming interest.

To tl;dr myself: the Overton window on /tg/ is on the /pol/ end due to liberal tendencies of 4chan and that /pol/ is often misunderstood because it is inhabited by a plurality of HBD libertarians or disillusioned previously mentioned

HBD is human bio diversity, in normal nomenclature it would be called "scientific" racism

>>48984764
>Did you just describe a cult ?

The need to worship and feel you're part of something greater than yourself is literally in our DNA, anon. Religion and spirituality is an inextricable aspect of the Human experience, and with organized traditional religion being more or less dead in the West what will the young adult turn to?

>>48984765

DESU anon I'm suprised you're not afraid of a Meritocracy since I'm pretty sure you and 99% of everyone here would be up on the chopping block of cattle feed if that were the case.

>>48979558
Wizards customer base is like 99% asian and white males. Their staff is a hell of a lot more diverse than their customer base.

All this pandering does is keep people that normally buy packs from buying packs, its not bring new people into the "tent".

>>48984847
>All this pandering does is keep people that normally buy packs from buying packs, its not bring new people into the "tent".

Does it? Because the model Wizards is following assumes their customer base will continue to buy their product no matter how hard they browbeat them.

Last I checked it was working.

>>48984833
I have a career and a job, civil engineer, it took me some time to get a stable one and isn't much but I'm happy with what I have. I also I'm not complainig that I don't get more due being hispanic, I know the range of my limitations and even though I think I could aspire for more I totally belive I can't rright now due the economical situation and not because my skin color.

Institucionalized racism and sexism doesn't exist.

>>48984859
Last time I checked 2 LGS shut down forever in my city and the amount of mtg sold in the other two drastically got reduced. But this has to do with other stuff Wotc is doing and not the PC culture bullshit

>>48984862

Anecdotal evidence vs anecdotal evidence to prove the objective existence of social trends is a stupid fucking argument and I hate whenever arguments boil down to

"I saw a man get fired and his boss called him a nigger institutionalized racism is real"

"Well I am a black man and I've never been called a nigger and never been fired so it's actually not real!"

It's spinning fucking circles.

>>48984847
Ideally, diversity would be like grammar; the people who care notice and are happy, the people who don't just ignore it. But instead there's now an entire subculture of people infuriated by the idea that someone is trying to tell them to talk more gooder.

>people are actually replying to this thread
Come on guys, no one gives a shit, and anyone who does should go back to that board which shall not be named. Diversity is retarded, particularly in a game played almost exclusively by white people and asians. Who cares? Fucking internet being used by normal people for bullshit purposes.

>>48984968
no, it should be subtle. The way they're doing it feels bruteforce, like you're getting hit over the head with a cast iron frying pan.

The biggest issue with Wizards is they try to insert other races into european mythos, rather than exploring the respective races culture.

Theros block was a prime example of this fuck up, they took mediterranean cultures and "blacked" them, it felt clumsy to me.

Mirage on the other hand has a great deal of middle eastern references and employed artwork, names, and character art to reflect that. When you use both a people and their culture it feels much more natural.

It is hard to not see some agenda behind this, I don't think they're just mixing and matching cultures to be lul fantasy. Unless they announce caucasian azteks or something similar.

>>48984847
I know a disproportionate number of transfolk who are into Magic, and I live in the south. As far as stereotypes go, it actually seems like transgendered people who play MtG or like to design games is a fairly common one.

>>48985350
>The biggest issue with Wizards is they try to insert other races into european mythos
RETURN TO MIRRAGE WHEN.
MESO-AMERICAN PLANE WHEN?!

>>48985402
That's because they're failed males that think "I-if I'm a girl people will like me!" because they're troll-tier.

>>48985406
>Return to Mirage
I got some bad news anon...

>>48985420
I just want it to be one set of just Teferi's spirit looking angry and the other set is just teferi's face crying because people DIDN'T step off his lawn

>>48985417
You have a very dismal view.

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>>48985350
>no, it should be subtle. The way they're doing it feels bruteforce, like you're getting hit over the head with a cast iron frying pan.

It's hard to gauge how serious people are sometimes though. There were complaints that this was out of place and pandering for having a black man on it when the whole point is that they're supposed to be outcasts because there's a black man, an Irishman, and an Asian women in Victorian England.

Then people complained that Alesha was too blunt despite the fact the only reference to her backstory is in a single article on the Wizards lore pages and it never even touches the cards.

Theros was bad, admittedly, but Theros is the only one that has really felt like it significant stuck out.

>>48985534
Outcasts was good but it felt weird that in return each other guy was black.

>>48985417
That doesn't really explain an affinity for MtG or game design though, it's just some generic anti-trans /pol/ rhetoric.

>>48985572
>I-it's l-le evil /pol/11!!
As expected, HRT treating you well?

Anyways, you'd understand if you had a working brain not fried by pumping yourself with hormones.

>>48985602
See, again, that's not really a reasonable attempt at discourse. You'd rather spout buzzwords than try to explain your stance.

>>48983238
>expresso
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>48985686
you mean like saying something is "anti-trans /pol/ rhetoric"?

Take your own advice.

>>48985686
Alright, I'll explain but you have a brain fried with hormones so it's worthless explaining.

Nerdy kids see girls being popular and perfect, so in their mind that's because girls are perfect and boys are ugly and icky, if only he was a girl! So they eventually become trans (mostly because attention and they've sold the idiotic idea that it's viable at some level (it's not, specially when the pants go down, specially mtf)) to seek acceptance and attention, they're still interested in nerdy shit and stuff that takes low-skill/effort (in their minds at least). Simple as that, that's why most popular trannies nowdays are into nerdy stuff, mostly because it's popular and very hugbox-y work environment (compare to EE, mechanical engineering or biochemistry, they're boring fields where nobody gives a fuck and are hard to market as fuck).

>>48985729
His brain is utterly fried.

>>48985789
so you are attacking his personal character instead of the argument?

You are better than that, its obvious from the other things you've written.

But whatever, I'll just remind myself of the motto here, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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>>48979427
>transgender khan
Literally who?

>>48985937
Alesha's a tranny

>>48985729
No, see, I explained my stance and then used buzzwords.

>>48985789
Alright, that's where the "generic" part makes itself evident. Several of the trans individuals I know are charismatic and well regarded among the stores I frequent. Most of them have well paying jobs, which is kind of necessary considering the expenses, including two that are actually in engineering.

You'll have to explain to me the exact metrics that you use to determine if someone is a "failed male" because it just doesn't seem like it applies in this scenario.

>His brain is utterly fried.
Sure, I've got estrogen in my brain but it's all natural.

>>48985942
Source on this? News to me.

>>48985952
I don't have sauce, check the MTG article archives for things containing "Alesha" or something.

>>48979427
>But nobody is actively talking about politics. Nobody is crying censorship, or caring about the "10 white men" who made Conspiracy, or that there's a black planeswalker, or a transgender khan.

Didn't you just make this thread as a passive-aggressive way to be a white man complaining about white men complaining about white men?

>>48979427
My LGS is one of the nests of the MAGIC MUST BE DIVERSE movement. As long as I don't talk about my politics, they're fine.

>>48979709
Actually, it's based in Renton, which is a dirty ghetto shithole a little south of Seattle. It makes them even more diverse!

>>48985964
I had read that story before, but I guess I never put two and two together. Now my question is, what was the point of doing that? I don't feel like I understand the character of Alesha better because he wanted to be she. It just feels shoehorned in there because of some SJW agenda! Who the fuck is allowing this shit to happen in Wizards?

>>48986132
Wizards wants dem SJW shekels.

>>48986154
I guess so. Not that you'd be able to tell the difference if you only play the game, which I have to imagine most players do. Like I said, I read the damn story and missed that point, which is a fitting encapsulation of how unnecessary some of these moves are. If you're going to make a character out of societal norms, do it with a fucking purpose. Make it matter in terms of the story. Don't make them the token whatever just so you can say "We got a ___ character!"

See, I wanna be a girl, but not trans.
Mt main reason for this is that i want fucking consecutive orgasms. It takes so long and so many refractory periods to hit satisfied levels as I amnow.

>>48986132
Well, it says something interesting about Mardu society and their concept of a War Name. Not that it matters at this point, I guess, since they've been erased from history.

>>48986154
SJWs don't give out shekels though.

>>48986313
Which is why pandering to them is a bad idea. Wizards thinks that they're an untapped market, when they really just don't want to buy Magic products.

>>48983601
>lose both world wars
k.

>>48979427
As a minority myself (not a nog, keep guessing) I can assure you none of us give a fuck, except the ones corrupted by the turbolib white chicks.

>>48986207
tbf, I've seen people do that before then get the complaint that nobody wants minority characters crammed in their faces.

So really wizards shouls just do whatever the fuck they like in terms of representation because most people don't care, some like having representation and can be pleased, some complain about the dev team not being diverse enough (despite consisting of only 10 people), some just want well written lore and some have literally flipped out at a jungle elf looking kinda african.

>>48986239
Why dont we have operations to give this to men?

>>48979427

is this actually fucking real or a parody of the alt left nonsense

i can't fucking tell anymore because reality has become more ridiculous than jokes

>>48986333
>Wizards thinks that they're an untapped market, when they really just don't want to buy Magic products.

It seems like a lot of established companies got caught off-guard by the Twitter generation, because the companies don't understand that a lot of noise doesn't automatically translate to a lot of money. It's kind of the other side of the digital-piracy coin: "we lost money because someone pirated it instead of paying for it (when they wouldn't have paid for it anyway)". In this case, it's "we'll make money because someone on the Internet says they want it this way (when they won't pay for it anyway)".

>>48986371
>Why dont we have operations to give this to men?
Because a majority of Americans believe in angels.

>>48986339
SE Asian.

>>48986466
Damn son.
You're really close.

>>48986476
Pajeet?

>>48986493
AYYYYYY!
You got it.
Protip though, Pajeet isn't an actually authentic name.
Raj would be better.

>>48986239
Patience is an important virtue. Both medical science and virtual reality technology are improving every day. Becoming a tranny is this day and age is like picking an unripe fruit - you will get no enjoyment out of it, and all you had to do was wait.

>>48986552
Soon as they can give me the real thing, im getting like a dozen

>>48979558
>As written by a self proclaimed "hipster" white male

>Rich (((Stein)))

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>>48979558
Duh.

>>48979427
Sauce on the artwork in OP? Need it.

>>48980372
>>48980413
>>48984073
It's a joke you autists.

>>48986747
It's Queen Marchesa, from the new Conspiracy set.

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>>48986747
The new Queen Marchesa by Kieran Yanner

The true reason the entire design team are males is that historically men got shit done like this.

do people actually say "regressive" on 4chan these days

same retards who think bait fish is funny i guess

>>48979558
dudes a kike gnomesayin

>>48987094
Unfortunately, while in the past all users of 4chan could be assumed to be ONLY users of 4chan, these days the typical poster visits non-4chan websites as well.

>>48987055
The true reason is that a whole host of intricate factors historically have played into working adults, who have experience, in this industry, mainly being male.

This cannot be magically solved in one industry. It cannot be solved by arbitrarily "making up" for the lack of women. It will be long going, and will ultimately never go away unless we go full Dahomey on everyone. Genetics may play a part; I don't know about that (even if they did, there's more dimensions to /tg/ than violence; see The Window style tumblrshitting). But culture certainly does, and is not some small beast you can pull the reigns on and turn the head of.
>>48987094
Yes. Mostly normalfags. The kind who watch Sargon, and rub one off to Milo.

>>48987113
haha yeah goddam crossies i used 4chan in 1999 amirite

>>48987116
yeah shits fucked
cringe as can be

>>48987113
I go on 4chan and reddit, and I'd go on tumblr too, if I could figure it out.

I hate Reddit. It is terrible at everything. Everyone likes to circlejerk about what a cesspool this place is, but it's nothing compared to there. They're all normal people with a passing interest in whatever they're interested in. All of them. So none of them have knowledge about it. They lack an essential autism. But they make up for it in righteous indignation.

I can't decide which are worse. The reddit-tier redditors, or the /pol/ack wannabes (not wannabes, any more) who think they're on the forefront of a legitimate movement.

But I still go on reddit. There's just not enough content on 4chan. Not enough content left on reddit, either.

>>48987171
nice blog post faggot

>>48987055

And the extent to which design and development teams are reflections of the tourney scene from a while ago, I am unsurprised it is a sausage fest.

However, WotC has plenty of diversity in other roles related to M:tG production, and the art mostly focuses on people getting shit done and includes a wide variety of types of people.

Also, Enthralling Victor as the best homoerotic subtext card I can remember.

>>48987181
Thank you. It is good to finally get some recognition. I have been posting these excerpts (that is what they are) to 4chan for some years now, and you are the first to ever reply to them. I shall inscribe your name in my memoirs (when I am dead and they are published), in recognition of your recognition.

HIDE TUMBLR THREADS
IGNORE TUMBLR POSTERS
REPORT TUMBLR POSTS

Feminism is not a /tg/ topic.

>>48987208
-4str y/n?

>>48979427
Anonymous and semi-anonymous internet communities create an echo chamber where extreme minorities like SJWs and alt right fags can congregate and harp on about their dumb shit without personal cost. In real life, all but the biggest nutters keep their shitty opinions to themselves because they don't want affect their reputation. The Internet essentially allows bad ideas to propagate by lowering the cost of buy in.

>>48987261
You don't use Facebook, do you?

>>48980372
>Hipsters of the Coast
Come on, if you're visiting a site like that you're just asking for it.

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>>48982940
>Dear America.
>Can you kill all SJW, 3rs wave feminist and neo-liberals? they're leaking into the rest of countries.
>Thank you, your neighbours, the rest of the world.

That would only be a half-measure. We also have alt-rights, fundamentalist Christians and other assorted socially conservative loons. And they make up a far greater degree of the U.S. population at that. Tumblrinas have nowhere near as much legislative power as the Christian right does, mostly because politics are dominated by old coots and corporate shills who pander to all the retarded superstitions widely propagated in the South. See Donald Trump.

>>48984503
When I came to /tg/ in '08, it was politically diverse but could be most easily defined as tolerant. I actually had never heard of trans before I came to /tg/, where it came up in a sympathetic/supportive context (mostly because of the "/tg/ - transgender" meme). The "if it's pretty, fuck it" mentality was popular (keep in mind gay marriage was still being fought over in mainstream politics). It was also predominately atheist (though certainly not exclusively).

But I'd say the biggest difference is there was basically no culture warring at all. The closest it ever got was a feminist tripfag (slashy) who wiki-spammed certain cheesecake threads for a little while. Politics did come up in off topic threads but it was not nearly as omnipresent as it is today. People preferred to talk about nerd stuff. I miss that.

>Them gays is invaden muh gaems! This must be a sign o' the times, I tell ya!

Shit, y'all. We's better round up the rest o' the Christian cavalry. We's got some lynchin' to do!

>>48987580
make sure you lynch yourself first

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>>48987261
>they don't want to affect their reputation
>anonymous internet communities
>reputation

>>48984717
>lack of social signaling
The fuck do you think memes are?
>upvotes, identities to manage
Neither of these have anything to do with liberal or conservative ideologies. There are predominately leftist anonymous imageboards. 4chan itself was predominately liberal prior to Obama.
>consensus
/pol/ makes fun of tumblr tards for turning on each other all the time.
>language policing
Users police language on 4chan all the time.

>>48984818
Shitposting about liberals and the coming societal collapse on the Internet.

>>48986132
What was the point of not doing it?

>>48987381
God no.

>>48987790
>In real life, all but the biggest nutters keep their shitty opinions to themselves because they don't want affect their reputation.
>In real life
Reading is FUNdamental, friend.

>>48987924
>God no.
It's worse.

>>48987518

>Tumblrinas have nowhere near as much legislative power as the Christian right does, mostly because politics are dominated by old coots and corporate shills who pander to all the retarded superstitions widely propagated in the South

Yeah in like 2004.

>>48987171
>I go on 4chan and reddit, and I'd go on tumblr too, if I could figure it out.
Man, I can't figure out how to navigate Reddit, but tumblr is easy. You just find one with the porn you like, then add "/archive" to the end of the address and it shows you all the porn.

>>48987924
Anonymous internet communities, by nature, are anathema to echo chambers. Anyone can voice an opinion without personal cost, so there's no peer pressure or fear of reprisal like tumblr/facebook/reddit etc.

>>48987790
Skeletons are notoriously bad at reading comprehension.

>>48987987
But how the shit do you find the porn you like in the first place? You can search, but you have no way of knowing if the results are good or not (more important if you're looking for anything other than porn). And you can't ask anyone, because the whole site is actively built around stopping discussion.

>>48987992
They don't prevent echo chambers, though. And they definitely don't prevent circlejerks.

>>48987992
Whether you believe that or not, your average poster certainly doesn't. Witness the endless posts discussing why such and such keeps the "normies" at bay.

Besides, you can say the same thing about pseudo-anonymous communities like tumblr, but you'll never hear people claim that's not an echo chamber.

>>48988034
>But how the shit do you find the porn you like in the first place?

Google Image Search based off of porn I like that I found on /hc/. The top results are almost always tumblr pages, so you just go through them. They're usually named with something that tells you what the major theme of the page is like.

I wouldn't have a clue how to use tumblr to navigate through tumblr, though. Just direct links from the googs.

>>48988043
>They don't prevent echo chambers, though
They kinda do, for the reasons I just specified. When was the last time you saw 4chan agree on anything, about anything? When was the last time you saw SJWs and alt right fags get a significant foothold here? /pol/ notwithstanding - it's only a slightly tighter consensus because most people who don't share their dumbass opinions never bother to visit /pol/ in the first place.

>>48988092
Alt-right fags have had footholds in most places for a long time. /pol/ definitely counts. SJWs have some footholds, too.

It's board-by-board. This board is fairly unique, in that the sheer power of pretentiousness keeps us from becoming too political (instead being philosophical). Other boards are much worse.

>>48988092
If we can't count /pol/ as an echo chamber, why does tumblr count? There are anti-SJW blogs on tumblr, you know. Reddit has sections like that too (though they're just much as much a circlejerk as their opposing number).

>>48988115
Still, a prevalence is not the same as an echo chamber. As for the original argument, yeah if we're talking about the relative anonymity of internet communities in general, they definitely do assist the growth of cancer. But complete anonymity at least stops people from using agendas for much personal gain, which in turn neuters the entire attraction of virtue signalling and such.

>>48980570

Do you like Portlandia?

>>48979427

So long as SJWs fuck off and stop attacking Trump supporters with tire irons, we're fine. Until then, I have a CCP.

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>>48980122
>Boogeyman

Oh (((((Anonymous)))))

>>48979427
>(((Stein)))

Nice try.

>>48988092
>4chan isn't an echo chamber
Try discussing a new release from Water Horse here. Despite being the appropriate board, a vast wave of butthurt about the cartoon its based on will even get you banned for it.

>>48988198
That only works if people are anonymous imageboards behave rationally. If you've been here for any length of time you should know that's not the case.

>>48979465
>people are even more vitriolic without anonymity.

I know right? I always find it weird when people do the 'asshole of the Internet' thing and I have to explain that actually lots of 4chan is more polite than Twitter.

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>>48987518

I could sit here all day and tell you why you're wrong and why Donald Trump is the most based American in over a century, but you're a shill so all you get is a reaction image.

Is your father proud of you for supporting a criminal who destroys every country she gets involved with (aside from those she takes millions of dollars from in exchange for preferential treatment by the State Department)? Are YOU proud of yourself for supporting someone who unironically believes there is nothing wrong with using her sex as a weapon and using children for propaganda?

>>48988365
>Look Mom, I told them about Trump again.
Dank Memes are Dank.

>>48988059

The fact that normies must be kept at bay proves the system is working as intended.

>>48980455
It's almost as if everything that makes the modern world was designed by a team of white men.

>>48988330
Most of the insults on 4chan are the same insults you'll get on any forum that isn't a hugbox. Difference is that a forum will result in assholes having a fan club.

We're crude and rude, but in the end it's just banter and taking insults to an extreme.

>>48988270

If it's MLP, stifle your butthurt and be happy we don't drown you in your own piss.

>>48988198
You're right, the we instead use anonymity to false flag so everyone has to read the same fucking SJW/pol nonsense that we constantly agree everyone is sick of

>>48988388

Not an argument.

>>48988426
The point is that the vitriol that surrounds it is moronic. I literally can't fathom why a cartoon about horses makes grown ass men angry. Me even alluding to it seems to have annoyed you.

>>48988472
There wasn't always a global rule against pone. It was enacted because of the problems bronies were causing across the boards.

If you feel that it's an unfair rule, make a thread on >>>/qa/

>>48988511
>encouraging more REMOVE GR15 PL0X threads on /qa/
Fuck you

>>48988511
Its nothing to do with the rule being unfair and everything to do with community censorship based on absurd levels of butthirt over a cartoon. In other words, proof of a degree of an echo chamber.

I don't understand the love grown men have for the show, I I understand the hatred even less. Its just a fucking cartoon, no more triggering than some shitty flavour of the second animoo.

>>48988435

I enjoy it.

>>48988554
Were you here for ponyspam?

>>48988472

Because you fuckers are creepy about little horse girls.

>>48988566
>One time, some people spammed cartoon horses
So?
Do you know where we are!?
Btards spammed gore and porn for fucks sake.
But cartoon horses, THAT is a step too far?

>>48988590
>one time
I'll take that as a no

>>48979427
No, nobody gives a shit about this shitfest. That's The fucking Point.

>>48988589
I have no love or hatred for the show.
But its fans are no more or less creepy than say, sonic fans or Furries or even Weebs.

>>48979427
>does anybody actually give a shit about this kind of stuff in your local gaming store?
Nobody gives shit anywhere
I'm not even sure most people playing MTG are aware of this bullshit going at all.

Also, this: >>48979525

>>48988554
It needed to be curtailed, because it was fucking everywhere. Without quarantining them, they'd aggressively direct any topic towards their beloved horses and more than enough of them became deliberately antagonistic towards people who wanted them to stop. Many reveled in the hate and cultivated it.

>>48980570
Former Seattle and current Portland resident here. Personally, I found it worse in Seattle, here in Portland they tend to keep to their state-mandated safe zones and end up making less noise because of it, while up in Seattle they were at least employed and kept up at least a background drama at all times.

>>48983177

It depends. Us Northumbrians (one day we will vote for independence, one day) consider Americans to be ultraright gun fanatics, because we're all ultraleft knife fanatics.

A friendly reminder /v/ was single-handly responsible for making bunch of people famous just by talking about internet nobodies and non-existing problems said nobodies were touching

Don't do that on /tg/, please

>>48988410
How? Because there are people on this website you disagree with?

I will point back to the presence of anti-sjw sections of tumblr and Reddit. Those exist, does that mean those sites aren't echo chambers?

>>48988609
Yes, one time as in at one point. Because apparently a bunch of trolls found something that universally triggered 4chan so slammed it a lot for a time. Big fucking deal. I can't see how a fucking cartoon upset so many people that even to this day when said cartoon is pretty much a dead fandom, there are still global rulkrulkes to protect the fragile community from it. Its literally fucking insane.

>>48988627
>We got trolled
And whose fault was that for getting ass ravaged about a fucking cartoon?

/pol/ is a board of peace and dindu nuffin wrong.

>>48983198

It's less the left in general and more immigration and globalism in particular. Some people are actually turning to Marxism over here, and they still voted for Brexit.

>>48983238

We could learn how American culture really is, too. And I have something to say. You panic too much. You thought Bernie Sanders was going to make you communist. Bernie was centre-right by our standards, while Corbyn is too communist for the left-wing BBC to support (although you could argue that the BBC is more 'politically correct', whereas Corbyn is an actual communist.)

>>48988560

This. /pol/ is a fun and friendly place.

>>48988658
Here's the thing you're missing, a thread is only as strong as it's weakest posters. Having a few ponyfags incite something with even one or two idiots willing to fire back at them could quickly derail threads suddenly being filled with idiocy from both sides.

Even people presumably like yourself who are "above" such things were affected without getting personally involved in it.

>>48988590

Those aren't allowed here either, you butthurt horsefucker.

>>48983366
>Nation
Europe is a continent. And don't say the EU is a country because it's way too incompetent to govern.

>>48988713
Because there are certainly no prominent political events in the EU that could be characterized as an overreaction.

>>48988466
Make one and maybe you'll get one in response.

>>48983428
Nazi fascist or traditional fascist?

>>48988723
>Trolls ruin threads
What exactly is ypour point?
Yes, trolls ruin threads. Regardless of what they are spamming. But you know WHY the trolls keep doing it? Because people got buttflustered. Over a cartoon. That is the stupidity.

>>48988658
You've already admitted you weren't around at the time. Just accept that all your stony indifference wouldn't have mattered for shit. How clever, logical, and calm do you think the average anon is?

>>48984765
Why are you talking about stuff you know nothing about?

>>48988640

Why not? Last time it ended with Hulk Fucking Hogan destroying Gawker at no cost to us. Why do you hate fun?

>>48988641

Google controlled opposition and thank me later.

>>48988733
Of course they aren't, but bloody cartoon horses seem to have the same if not more special treatment, and I can't fathom why it upsets and triggers people any more than a bad anime.

>>48988641

Community trolling versus moderator action. Reddit has already tried to surreptitiously shut down its Trump subreddit, and I'm sure worse has happened on tumblr.

>>48988762
Oh, I see your point. So, in order to fix this, we just have to change human nature and exert influence over people we have never personally met and who we have no control over. Got it, it's so simple. Why weren't you around to enlighten everyone back then?

>>48988664
To be fair the main ones who fight against that are the D&D new fags from tumblr who unironically like 5e and the WoD furries. Also cross posters but they don't belong here to begin with.

>>48988649

Brony detected. The only upset one is you.

>>48988767
>You admitted
No, that "fact" was insinuated.
At the time I remember just being perplexed by the whole thing. But angry? Why?

>>48984765
Because it's not a real meritocracy. You want a game of Catan where one player starts with four cities, one player starts with one settlement, one player only gets a single die and starts with settlements on 8s and 10s, and the table is made of wood instead of using s half-naked slave girl like God intended. Are you surprised some people don't want to play with you?

>>48983468
You Amerifags never learn. We fucked up Africa with our big-ass empire. We fucked up China and India with opium smuggling. We fucked you up by sending black slaves over before you were a nation, sowing racial conflicts. We fucked Australia up by sending convicts over. We fucked the Middle East up by destroying the Ottoman Empire and creating Israel. We fucked Russia up by convincing you to destroy them diplomatically, creating a nation run by oligarchs and human traffickers. Then we became Europe's bitch, but Europe became dependent on us. When we finalise the Brexit, Europe will be fucked up and no country will be able to oppose us.

>>48988808
>Trying to tie based 5e in there

You had me in agreement until you outed yourself as a Pathfurry shill.

>>48988782
I know what controlled opposition is and you're fucking retarded if you think a subreddit dedicated to Donald Trump is a government plant.

>>48988797
>Its human nature to get angry about a kids show
Maybe if you're a hopelessly autistic manchild, but I don't think that's true of the majority of posters here. Except for some reason when it comes to one silky little show in particular. I've never found anyone able to articulate their hatred for it using arguments that apcant easily apply to countless other shows or fandoms.

>>48988836
Nah d&do in all its incarnations is shit, WotC is nothing but massive faggots and I hate what the Fucking assholes did to magic.

>>48988795

You're the only one upset and triggered, the rest of us are happy and content with nary a tramp-stamped mare in sight, the way Kek intended.

>>48988796
>I have no evidence to back this up, but I'm 100% sure all discussion on this website I don't visit is supressed by evil moderators
Echo chamber or not you've certainly formed an effective info bubble.

>>48983652

The whole left/right thing is a huge headache in general. It means whatever the speaker wants it to mean based on context. We Brits are basically mini America. We're more to the left in terms of the economy, but we're not socialist and we still have too many SJWs.

>>48988814
Not to insult you, but you might actually be on the autism spectrum. The inability to process and understand the emotional responses of others is a common feature.

If you are literally incapable of comprehending how people get trolled, then you are abnormal in one way or another.

>>48988836
T. Tumblr, get the fuck out you filthy hamplanet, your PC enforced game can eat a dick.

>>48984765

Best post ITT, look at those flustered SJW replies.

>>48988866
Yes, returning to my original point. You are happy with an echo chamber that for, basically asinine reasons, restricts discussion obver a kids show because grown ass men got upset over it years ago. Its a nonsense.

>>48988808
Been here since '07 you cocksucker.

>everyone who disagrees is part of
<outgroup>
Yeah, sure isn't an echo chamber and here.

>>48988898
Did someone trigger you?

>>48988885
No anon, I understand why people can get trolled.
I don't understand why people can get trolled by something as utterly unimportant as a kids TV show.

>>48988844
>I've never found anyone able to articulate their hatred for it

Here's the thing: I don't hate it. It barely even registers in my mind. I am not arguing from the vantage point of someone who hated the show, but from the position of someone who understands why it needed to be separated into it's own containment board. If you can't grasp why it needed to be done, you need to reevaluate your perception of human nature, because yes, it is human nature to get angry about a kid's show. Human nature is often very petty, aggressive and stupid. Human nature does not need to have logical reasons to be upset. Human nature is all about taking mild annoyances and overreacting to them.

>>48984503
It depends. A lot of /pol/acks have migrated over, but compared to the rest of 4chan, we're pretty left-wing. Of course, it depends on the thread. Eclipse Phase threads are full of Anarcho-Communists, whereas wingnuts tend to hang around on these threads to insult other wingnuts.

>>48988918
>i've been on this board since before the board was made, my opinions matter CISSCUM

Ok anon, whatever you say.

>>48988844
>>Its human nature to get angry about a kids show
>Maybe if you're a hopelessly autistic manchild, but I don't think that's true of the majority of posters here.
Not that anon, but I don't have enough images of people laughing hysterically to respond to this.

>>48988898
But that is not the best post here, it is not even the worst post.

>>48988939
>someone who understands why it needed to be separated into it's own containment board
OK, so please explain to me why it requires especial attention over, for example, Sonic or Furries?
>>48988972
Maybe I am being too kind... But I prefer to assume a dedicated troll over someone being hopelessly autistic.

>>48984777
Feminists were much cooler when they believed in equality for men and women, where either could do whatever they pleased. Now all they do is demonise all men and any women who don't act exactly as the Social Justice cult wants them to. Emmeline Pankhurst is rolling in her grave.

>>48988946
The board was created in '07 and you're the one who brought up newfaggotry.

>>48988863
>>48988891

Corellon was always a fag, that paragraph just exists to stop other fags whining. Meanwhile PF is THE SJW game.

>>48984833
Not that anon, but I'm just here to point out that a true meritocracy would be terrifying, with the government deciding who has more merit. A true meritocracy would be all the worst parts of capitalism mixed with all the worst parts of communism, with none of the good parts.

>>48984880
I'd agree. Most players don't care what the card looks like.

>>48989006
>over Furries
For one, you're mistaken there. Furries don't just get a containment board, they're prohibited by a Global rule.

>Sonic
Because the Sonic fandom hasn't shitposted its way across every board in massive numbers. They're also pretty small now because of how many shitty Sonic games there have been.

To even suggest those comparisons makes it pretty obvious you haven't really attempted any critical analysis of the situation. It should be immensely obvious why those situations are different for very simple reasons.

>>48988365
>that pic
I remember when we were making fun of SJWs for thinking like that.

>>48985686
Everyone sprouts buzzwords constantly. Even 'buzzwords'is a buzzword. Why even bother?

>>48989084
Furfaggotry is allowed on /b/ as the global rule in question states it's not allowed "outside of /b/".

Amusingly, ponyfags did not get the same exception.

>>48985943
Tits or gtfo (you are a real girl, right?)

>>48988713
>Take it from us, the Europeans, you Americans panic too much.
We worry about politics, you guys seem to flip your shit and overreact whenever there's a single germ on your tomato, or if a carrot was genetically modified to grow slightly larger than a normal carrot.

>>48985975
It's whitecisgendermaleception.

>>48989119
Ponyfags didn't need the exception because they got an entire board to themselves.

>>48988831
>We fucked up Africa with our big-ass empire
To be fair Africa was pretty much always fucked up compared to the rest of the world through out history.

>>48989084
t for the fact that Furry and Anthro get posted here all the time. Just not the sexual stuff.

And the Sonic fandom and the Pony fandom are both just as quiet these days, both are equally irrelevant and half dead.

To still honestly believe we need a global rule to keep out the tiny tiny fandom is stupid.

If we removed global rule 15 we'd have two months tops of shitposting before it all became as much background noise as the other two I mentioned.

I honestly think its absurd that, for example, if a father wanted to run a game of mlp for his daughters he couldn't come here to ask for advice without being banned. All because a few autistic necknbeards get sand in their neckfolds over a god damned harmless cartoon.

>>48987171
>I hate Reddit. It is terrible at everything.

It's good for professional stuff. Misinformation gets downvoted, the correct answers get upvoted. I'm a sysadmin and I'd be far happier to research stuff on various subreddits than I would be to take /g/'s word for anything.

>>48987171
Reddit is just a hug circlejerk. It's not worth going there for any kind of political discussion, but some subreddits are less bad at least.

>>48989144
The state of the boards as they exist now may not reflect the state of the boards as they were when the containment board was created, but that does not mean the containment board was unwarranted. You can argue for it's dissolution, but first you'd need to present a compelling benefit to be gained from removing it.

What do you think would actually improve if it were gone? What are we really "losing" by keeping it around?

>if a father wanted to run a game of mlp for his daughters he couldn't come here to ask for advice without being banned

How often do you think that is actually relevant? Further, what's to stop this hypothetical man from asking /mlp/ about the very same subjects?

>>48989219
>Further, what's to stop this hypothetical man from asking /mlp/ about the very same subjects?
Presumably he'd want to ask people who actually play tabletop games, not random fags who fap to MLP vore.

>>48988365
It's possible to hate both Trump and Clinton, you know. Personally, I've always hated Shillary. But I stopped supporting Trump when he gave his support to Sandy Hook deniers, and now I hate both.

>>48989219
>How often do you think that is actually relevant?
With a major release backed by Hasbro about the property set to be released soon. It will happen a lot more frequently.
>Further, what's to stop this hypothetical man from asking /mlp/ about the very same subjects?
If you wanted to run an anime game, would you ask how to run it on /a/ or /tg/?
Would you got to a board where you MIGHT find experts on Tabletop, or the one where you WILL find experts?

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>>48988771
Not him, but he was clearly about NOT making /tg/ version of Anita and other shits that then are elevated into status of experts and raking mad dought, because bunch of spergs couldn't contain themselves on for chin

>>48989144
>All because a few autistic necknbeards get sand in their neckfolds over a god damned harmless cartoon.
Frankly I'd rather they just get rid of the board and keep the global rule.

>>48989250
Assuming there is a Pony tabletop game, which I have to guess there probably is, what makes you think none of the Ponyfags play it?

>>48988424
Exactly, you simply can't BE personal on here because you don't know who anyone else is and can't follow them around. Hell for all I know I've ripped on my friends on here, I could walk past dozens of fa/tg/uys every day on the way to work and never know it.

>>48986399
>It seems like a lot of established companies got caught off-guard by the Twitter generation, because the companies don't understand that a lot of noise doesn't automatically translate to a lot of money

Definitely. Wizards doesn't seem to realise that you don't decide to jump into or avoid a hobby as expensive as Magic based on how diverse the card art characters are, the people that complain about Magic needing more diversity and boycotting it/not buying it were never buying boosters and never would.

Short of a full-on sheeeeit set can you imagine a halfway serious Magic player boycotting a set because they got triggered by the art? Magic players spend thousands of dollars on Magic, hell some spend that on single decks! They aren't sitting out a Standard rotation or not buying cards from a set based on the diversity quota and they're not going to get into it because the characters are black women just like them.

It's infuriating because Marvel made exactly this mistake before and Wizards should have been paying attention.

>>48989300
Would you ask a small group that MIGHT have experts on gaming or a large group MADE of experts on gaming for advice, anon? Honestly.

>>48989340
Unless you can show that the ponyfags are incapable of answering the relevant questions, it's purely academic. Asking either group could be just as likely to turn up results.

On the one hand, you are guaranteed to have people enthusiastic about pastel horses, who might enjoy tabletop gaming.

On the other hand, you are guaranteed to have people enthusiastic about tabletop, who might enjoy my diminutive equestrians.

You are having to hit the same niche group in either situation.

>>48989006
>explain to me why it requires especial attention

Numbers mainly. Anything gets annoying if there's a high enough density of it and it goes on long enough. It was either that or global ban it and that's not very 4chan.

As an aside I watched a few episodes and never got the fuss. It's a kids show, I mean it's a pretty good kids show but it's a cartoon for children.

>>48989398
But you're just lying to yourself now.

It doesn't matter if the board is interested in the genre of game you are running for them to be able to gibe you advice. It helps, sure, but its not a necessity.

And ultimately you seem to agree now. The hypothetical father can get the best answers from both boards combined. One is most likely to help with fluff, one more likely to aid with crunch.

Problem is that one is too triggered by a cartoon to help. Which to my mound is stupid. But, if you honestly feel justified being upset about cartoon horses...you must be a fucking idiot.

>>48989411
As I've said to others, the fandom is almost dead these days. Keeping the rule in place over some trolls five years or so ago seems more childish than the adventures of pastel horses.

>>48989478
I suspect it's a case of a rule being there and no one caring enough to remove it

>>48989478
>And ultimately you seem to agree now.

Not even a little bit. If there is an equal chance to get help from either scenario, it means that you do not net any benefit from getting rid of ponyboard. The positive aspects remain unchanged, and you only get noticeable negatives, such as the months of trolling you admitted were likely.

>But you're just lying to yourself now.
I could say the same of you. If you haven't seen various assorted attempts to get advice about niche gaming rulesets hit page 10 without a single response, you just haven't been paying enough attention.

>>48988907

U mad

>>48988922

Don't disrespect veterans by throwing that term around so lightly.

>>48989553
Probably so. That and genuine autism about the p cartoon still being around.
>>48989555
Who said anything about getting rid of their board? Just the silly rule that prevents movies being discussed on /TV/ and traditional games being discussed here.

>>48989572
I confuz.

>>48989105

The Overton Window is a hell of a thing. Back then I was an enthusiastic Obama supporter who only went to /pol/ to "troll Nazis with pictures of mixed race couples".

>>48979427
He wouldn't be writing this if Stacey had gone to prom with him.

>>48985942
Alesha is a crossdresser.

>>48986594
The image of Anon walking into a future clinic and saying to the front desk.

"Yes, I require a DOZEN of your finest vaginas!"

Is the best thing to come out of this thread.