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MTG Spoilers, we thought they were done by Friday edition.

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>>48864630
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welcome to MM2
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>>48882731

We have one more week of spoilers?

So far this is looking fantastic. And there's no limited print run.
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>>48882731
No more spoilers for today?, I hoped for yet a couple of rares, some uncommons and maybe a Mythic.
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>>48882773
Not sure,
I thought MaRo has said supplementary products only get 1 week of spoilers. The set comes out next friday and spoilers are usually done before the week of release.
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>>48882773
They'll probably reveal them all this momday.
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>>48882821
>momday
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>>48882821
>this momday.
We gotta wait like 9 months?
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I'm really excited about the birds reprint. It's a card I just don't own any of, and only playing Commander I couldn't bring myself to outright buy a card there is slightly inferior versions of.
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>>48882821
>momday
This is very amusing and I'm not really sure why.
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Why the fuck is it Monday till they spoil everything? I thought it was a week before, not 4 days before.
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>>48882841
>>48882842
>>48882855
Monday is alway momday
Because that's the day she died.
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>>48882893
Well.
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i liked birds until they printed hierarch
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>>48882855
Because you love your mother and you're a nice person?
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>>48882867
There's a preview pre-release in some stores this weekend. Some will get to experience Conspiracy blind and post spoilers. It will be glorious
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>>48882731
>Rare

...literally why

It's not like having two BoP in your deck is going to affect things THAT much.
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>>48882972

It has always been a rare, you faggot.
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>>48882905
DON'T WANT YOUR PITY.
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>>48883008
Not pity.
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>tfw XMage fags will never experience the fun of Conspiracy drafts
Not having an LGS in close proximity is suffering
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>>48883230
But we will.
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>>48883250
Can XMage handle draft matters cards?
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how are the boosterpacks structured? do conspiracy(card type) cards take normal i.e rare slots ?
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>>48883304
IIRC, they take up common slots.
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>>48883304
they're where the basic land would be
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Oh shit son
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A direct upgrade for clone, this'll be fun.
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>>48883341
source?
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>>48883341
this cant be true
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Kinda wish they'd make Selvala something more than a mana dork, feel like she could be more interesting than that. Will definitely be going into my Experiment Kraj EDH deck though, it's literally the exact mana dork I've been looking for to allow Kraj to go infinite totally on his own.
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>>48883317
>>48883335

well i'll need a display then. this set is unreal
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>>48883404
>Lose a color
>Get a better ability
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>>48883304
>>48883317
>>48883335
Foils take up the usual common slot, draft matters cards take up the last slot (where land is in most sets or DFCs are in SOI/EMN)
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>>48883341
Yay!
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>>48883341
Reprint of a $60 card? Hell yes. Wonder what the price will be after a month.
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>>48883496
Probably won't change that much DESU, maybe a $10 at most
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>>48883341
Unconfirmed, I don't want to get myself hyped for a fake.
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>>48883496

At mythic? Even with "unlimited" supply, I would expect at best a 30% drop, which would be quite considerable.

But we don't know if that's a fake yet.

>>48883511
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>>48883355
>>48883367
Posted on a few sites. Looks like it does fit number-wise, but depending on how the mythic conspiracies fit into the printing sheets it might mean no black Mythic. Someone made a good point though, that every multicolor mythic is also black so that seems totally possible.
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WE
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>>48883424
Isn't that how it's supposed to work for commanders?
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>>48883353
I know we're all excited about show and tell, but can I just point out, flashy Clone is a thing?
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>>48883581
Maybe? I had always thought that more colors meant stronger effects, since it's harder to cast
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>>48883575
WUZ
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>>48883496
Will probably drop to $30-$40 after people stop grabbing all the prerelease copies.
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>>48883598
ALFZ
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>>48882931
Just use both.
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>>48883589

Is there any specific broken use for it? I mean, it looks a good addition for some control decks, but what else?
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>>48883604
You know there's no prerelease for this set riiight?
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>>48883604
No pre-release for this. If there was it would be today.
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>>48883575
>>48883598
>'we wuz kangz' meming because a green druid-type shaman has a flat nose and a tan
Because fucking tigers are native to Norway, right lads?
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>>48883669
I want them to expand on the lore of the brown elves, just like I want to expand their wombs.
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>>48883669

>Not meming when there's even the slightest excuse.
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>>48883669

>>48883719
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>>48883669
>defending "muh diversity"-shoehoerning into a tribe that has always been white

It's ok, that's just the times we live in. We have to have black female elves, black female thieve planeswalkers, black everything in ancient greece, an ethnically diverse Kaladesh.

It's no longer okay to just write a story, everything has to be politcally correct and ethnically diverse.

WOTC supposedly hired some people to help them cram diversity into everything now.

Literally the meme of the modern era.
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>>48883719
>>48883734
Oh boy, it's sure going to be fun when people keep typing 'D E S I G N A T E D' whenever someone posts a Kaladesh card in September, with this being the prevalent attitude.
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>>48883760
>it's sure going to be fun when people keep typing 'D E S I G N A T E D' whenever someone posts a Kaladesh card in September, with this being the prevalent attitude.
My thoughts exactly
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>>48883760
Did somebody say poo in loo?
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>>48883781
Stale memes taste bad.
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>>48883669
Go look at the representation of black people in the new innistrad set and tell me does it look super fluent and natural for a gothic eldritch horror setting.
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>>48883747
i fail to see how a generic dude in any given artwork having dark or pale skin is harmful or bad
like sure, it gets annoying to see all the back-patting and self-congratulating about how inclusive they are and shit
but thats like a minor annoyance at worst and i have yet to have that detract from playing the game
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>>48883856
Thoroughly dependent on how they're drawn.

One of these vampires blends into the setting perfectly and effortlessly, another looks like two awful caricatures being mashed together.
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>>48883424
Well, she does enable enemy card draw a bit...
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>>48883747
It's a fucking jungle shaman surrounded by tigers. Why WOULDN'T she have a fucking tan? Does every shaman in Magic have to ape Tarzan now, lest Wizards trigger the poor stormfags?
>>48883856
I can criticize Innistrad's occasionally ham-fisted inclusion of black folks without blinding myself to the fact that it's preposterous to react to a black shaman from the fucking woods with WE WUZ
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>>48883987
Elves dont get darker in the sun, they get darker in the absence of sun
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Why do people dislike black people in lovecraftian settings? Other races fit perfectly in every way you see it.

>>48883907
>the one on the right looks like he's cosplaying
>lady vampire fits perfectly
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>>48884007
>>48883907
I think it's the hair. Guy on the right has black hair, but it looks odd. Lady on the left has a tight bun of a style that I think we've seen elsewhere in the setting.
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>>48883856
>super fluent and natural for a gothic eldritch horror setting.

this is based on your own preconceived notion of what a "gothic eldritch horror setting" means

it isn't wizard's job to make sure your idea of gothic horror is represented, it's their job to sell cards. if they think that putting black people on cards will sell them cards, they'll do it

if black people on cards makes you want to not play this game, good, fuck yourself and die, and go back to /pol/ when you're done
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>>48883575
>>48883987

She's not "just a shaman". She's clearly an elf.
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>>48883907
The on the left looks like is cosplaying star wars, the one of the right looks like it is cosplaying a WoW character.

Can't they look like normal vampires? It's not like every single black person in innistrad wanted to be unique.

>>48884007
I am asian, and I think that asian doesn't fit into lovecraftian universe.
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>>48883760
Y-yes indeedy? And we'll have a jolly good time doing so.
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>>48884064
>into lovecraftian universe
you're right, it doesn't, lovecraft was racist as fuck

so it's a good thing this isn't a lovecraftian universe
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>>48884024
Precisely, hair on the right looks pretty shitty.

>>48884064
Why not? Asian mythology is so vast, I'm sure we can insert elder ones somewhere.
I was thinking more about polynesians and abbos, worshipping Dagon seems like their thing.
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>>48883651
>>48883656
Well then. I didn't know this.
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>>48884007
That's the issue with how WotC depicts black people.

It works when they wear what they would wear in that setting. They blend in well with townsfolk and as nobility, they need to wear the sort of garb that would compliment their skin tone and their hair, just as a white vampire does by wearing rich and dark red and blacks to match the red hair but contrast with the pallid flesh.
It doesn't work when they are forced into garb that's clearly designed for a white individual, leaving them looking out of place and poorly designed. Examples include Markov Dreadknight and as of late, Kaya.
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>>48883987
You fail to see the point here, my friend, but that's okay, I'll explain it to you.

No one would care about a couple characters in a designated set having african-american features. But we have to have it in every single set, every single plane. No one cared about black people in the original Innistrad, because that wasn't the point.

Hell, WotC even hired diversity experts, because apparently we don't have enough of it.

Everyone can tell that these moves aren't done genuinely, but for stupid PC / marketing reasons.
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I mean, for fuck's sakes, the whole WE WUZ meme is about historical revisionism about how Egypt was a Nubian Civilization. How the fuck do you pull that out when the card in question is a literal forest-dwelling savage?

>>48884047
>all those shitty custom cards
I mean, it's true she's an elf. Elves are usually pale, but so is this lady -- her skin is a pale black. She still has pointy elf ears and weirdly large elf-eyes (is that even an elf thing?). I don't see anything wrong with this at all, now that they've established black people in Fiora in the first place.
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>>48884104
>and as of late, Kaya.
Kaya's outfit is just some weird "rouge" outfit
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>>48884089
>so it's a good thing this isn't a lovecraftian universe
Lovecraftian universe is good, and probably one of the reasons that Originial Innistrad was so popular.
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>>48884104
>Garb clearly designed for a white individual

Is this some kind of joke?
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>>48884047
Lorwyn elves best evil elves.
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>>48884104
>garb that's clearly designed for a white individual
what does this even fucking mean

also

wotc commissions art. if you don't like the art, or if you find the art inconsistent, there's a good reason for that
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>>48884064
The one on the left is wearing what the 'normal vampire' she is standing beside is wearing, just in a color that contrasts with her skin just as the white vampire's armor contrasts with hers.

And both of these vampires wear very similar armor to Olivia, Mobilized for War, the archetypal vampire of Shadow over Innistrad.
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>>48884138
First Innistrad isn't based on Lovecraft, it's based on classic gothic horror. You're thinking of Shadows Over Innistrad, the second set featuring Innistrad.
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>>48883747
It actually pissed me off since black people have their own subgenre of gothic horror in souther gothing and we've pretty much been robbed of an appalachian+bayou folklore set by just shoving token niggas into Innistrad.
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>>48884144
I love the horns, makes them look very fey and more wild instead of just long eared humans.
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>>48884138
wizards steals shamelessly from other ip in order to make sets that evoke a certain resonant response

that doesn't mean they have to follow the rules of that ip
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>>48884110
>No one cared about black people in the original Innistrad, because that wasn't the point.
>No one cared
Yes they did! Yes they did, you shitty Stormfront faggot, and they shitpost about it to this day because a card dared to show a handful of Asians and blacks -- even in the context of their being outcasts from society! The mere presence of black people on art was enough to trigger Stormfront. I guarantee that if we went back to a Mirage-type African set, you fucking faggots would spend the entire time spamming this WE WUZ shit, just like you're about to spend all of Kaladesh going on about shitting streets.

>>48884064
Caveat: Snapcaster being Asian was stupid, but that wasn't Wizard's fault.
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>>48884145
>>48884142
Some outfits and color combinations compliment a white man better than they compliment a black man. That's one of them. A white man would look more natural in that armor than a black man, just like a blonde boy would look more natural cosplaying as Naruto than a fat black man would.
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>>48884193
>That's one of them
I'll defer to your fashion expertise, and continue to believe that you're a fucking idiot
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>>48884193
First of all, your example doesn't work since the character is depicted in a certain way. You have to resemble the character you're cosplaying.

Now, for the rest, you're a fucking idiot. Some color combinations don't match, but many others do. And I didn't know everybody wore a color that don't fit black people just out of spite. As you can see here, >>48884156 it works perfectly if the artist knows what he's doing. This also works for every single character in any setting
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>>48884183
>devolving into ad-hominem
>"some people complained about it, that means you are all white supremacists!!!11"
>"people aren't allowed to meme on 4chan, because I don't like it!"
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>>48884173
>appalachian+bayou folklore
That sounds fucking cool as well, but I thought Southern Gothic was more stuff like Faulkner? I only ever read Barn Burning as an example of the Genre, as far as I can remember, but transplanting antebellum values of the South into a Magic setting sounds like it would get dangerously political very quickly. And if they didn't do that, of course, the fact that they'd be leaving out the original subtext would ITSELF become political because it'd be called erasure.

Imagine if people had interpreted Avacyn Restored as a "white savior" ending, for example, instead of just being an unfitting ending to tack onto an otherwise allegedly gothic horror story. The fallout would be catastrophic. Wizards now wouldn't touch that idea with a 10-foot pole, for better or for worse.
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>>48884183
snappy being a gook is fine in my book. It makes him seem more reclusive and wizened when combined with that armor. He not your average every day innistradian in any way and it shows on his design. He looks like a powerful, prepared wizard by anyone in the multiverse's stands even with the limitations of living on a plane like innistrad. Him being an ethnicity thats known for being excellent scholars helps to contrast him with the bumpkin european farmers that make up most of the humans of innistrad. 10/10 for snappy and you should feel ashamed for blindly hating.
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>>48884142
>>48884145
Are you both retarded?
People dress to look good, some colors look better on a dark person, some colors look better on a pale person, some colors look better with brown, blonde or red hair, some colors look better with light or dark eyes.

I bet that's literally racism too, you fucking tumblrite hipocrites.
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>>48884314
Yes, yes, anon! So black people can fit in the setting. Did you know people back then had different clothes and they could wear different colors? Shocking, I know.
btw I'm black
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Shit, dont you guys get tired of making the same joke every time?
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>>48884370
shiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>48884380
I think you mean shiiiieeeet
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>>48884280
What I stated was a simple refutation of what was stated: the claim was that "nobody cared" about original Innistrad blacks, which was objectively false.
>people aren't allowed to meme on 4chan, because I don't like it!
>I want to meme in every circumstance possible, even when they don't make sense! Memes aren't fun until I run them into the ground!
This is the part where I tell you to go back, I think.

>>48884302
I agree that he doesn't look like an average everyday Innistradian, but I disagree that that's a good thing somehow. Guy sticks out like a sore thumb, even among all the other geist-mages, and there's no explanation other than the roughly assumed half-baked idea you have here about an elite mage from the other side of the world who's here... because?
I'll confess I might be biased because I really dislike the card itself, but I'm not hating blindly
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>>48884281
Southern Gothic is pretty much plantation intrigues, voodoo, swamp legends and witchcraft set either in the south or similar societies.
And it wouldn't need to be political if your skinmates weren't utter faggots. Chinese and mexicans had it way worse developing the west than black slaves did in the south, and you should start remembering the irish had it at least as hard in the very same plantations before you dare talk about erasure.
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>>48883907
I thought the black vampires fit the flavor well. Vampires don't recreate naturally, so siring an exotic race into your family can be seen as a matter of pride, like a trophy (wife)
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>>48883747
>Kaladesh
...Isn't that plane partially based on India or some shit?
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It was obvious from the second they started telling us in uncharted realms and design articles that Innistrad had other continents that the outcasts came from there and xenophobia would be the theme of return to innistrad before the changed into "bitch has her first period and ruins her father figure's car" because writing a story about hating and fearing immigrants is wrongevil under NWO even if it's written to show the hateful side in the wrong..
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>>48883747
>defending "muh diversity"-shoehoerning into a tribe that has always been white

You know that there are white and black humans, right? So, what's stopping elves from having different racial ethnicities? There were elves that were bright blue in Apocalypse.
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>>48884368
I noticed when you couldn't stop whining about immaginary opression.
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>>48884438
>skinmates
let me tell you a secret

if you want people to take you seriously, you need to write and speak in a way they find acceptable. Much in the same way you might find the content of someone's speech to be ridiculous based solely on the method of delivery, (i.e. we wuz kangs), most rational people will be able to find the parts of your post that label you as a racist shithead and will discount the content of your post based on that

the more you know
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>>48884110
are you just going to make every mtg thread, as you have for the last two weeks at least, about your fucking autistic rage over representational diversity in a fantasy land
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>>48884518
>he fell for the laziest bait of all time
Holy shit, seriously? No wonder you think black people can't fit in this setting, your response is pathetic.
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>>48884174
Yes, they are the ideal elves to me. Extremely fey-like, sylvan, predatory, whimsical, mysterious, vain, elitist, territorial. Pure manifestations of nature and beauty, they view themselves as the pinnacle of beauty and perfection, lords of the trees, forests and deep and hidden magic. And consider everything else a multitude of blank canvas for artistical works of pain and destruction.
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>>48884505
>under NWO
I can only hope you're referring to something other than the wotc policy of nwo, because if you're referring to the policy of wotc you'd have to be retarded
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>>48884422
>refutation of what was stated
You literally called me a Stormfront faggot.
Also, all you did was refute a single, tangential mentioning of old Innistrad, when most people on 4chan did, in fact, not care about black people on Innistrad.
And if they did, they did so for a specific flavour reason. Aren't people allowed to have opinions anymore

>Memes aren't fun until i run them into the ground!

Welcome to fourchins, we have a LOT of memes here, and you might not like all of them, but that's fine, because there's always someone who does.
>I want to meme in every circumstance possible
If people want to meme in response to obvious diversity propaganda bullshit from WOTC, then let them.

You can fuck off to lebbit anytime, my fellow le gentleman. Don't worry, evil hatespeech threads like this would be banned within a second.
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>>48884555
Yes, I'm reffering to the world post refugee crisis.
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WE WUZ SHITPOSTAN AN SHIIET
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>>48884438
>And it wouldn't need to be political if your skinmates weren't utter faggots.
No, I mean, as part of the genre. Examining the values of the South (or a facsimile of the South) with a critical eye and not having anything whatsoever to do with the big-S word seems like it would be almost missing part of the genre. I believe this is a significant part of Southern Gothic, but it's true they wouldn't need to adapt this -- the problem is that if they knowingly chose not to, and people noticed, then some people might get offended for what could be argued to be a real reason. If they did leave it in, people would practically jump to get offended at a fantasy portrayal of it, and again, they'd have a pretty serious argument. The last thing Wizards wants is a legitimate SJW grievance against them.

Please be gentle with me, all I've read of Southern Gothic were a few Faulkner and Flannery O'Connor short stories. As a result I'm well aware of the troubles that white folks have in these stories as well, but I'm also less familiar with the more Louisiana-sounding stories you're talking about.

>>48884520
Get thicker skin.
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>>48884600
>Get thicker skin.
says the racist, lol

I'm just trying to help you dog
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>>48884572
Calling someone a shitty person doesn't mean that their entire argument consists of calling them a shitty person, you dumb piece of shit. Ad-hom for dummies, coming right up:
Ad-hominem:
>You're a dumb piece of shit, therefore, your conclusion is incorrect
NOT Ad-hominem:
>Your conclusion is incorrect because [x]. Also, you're a dumb piece of shit.

>most people on 4chan did, in fact, not care about black people on Innistrad.
>No one cared about black people in the original Innistrad, because that wasn't the point.
While we're at it, here's a case study on "moving the goalposts." The original argument was that "no one cared." With this argument refuted, changing the criteria post-facto to "MOST people didn't care" and claiming the original argument is still untouched is a logical fallacy.
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>>48884554
Shit I just want a reprinting of lorwyn boxes. Only got to draft it once online and it was awesome. Such a cool plane, so much sweet flavor. Where the everyday troubles are just hilariously stupid goblins kidnapping goats and hobbits whacking each others with fish, while the closest things to villains are comically narcissistic beauty nazis and fairies whose only purpose in life is to annoy everyone else. Now everything takes itself so goddamn seriously and every set is about saving the entire world from big evil tentacle monsters from outer space who kill everything amongst 'tragic' inter-planeswalker character drama and angst.
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>>48884674
I miss tribal

is it bad to want tribal
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>>48883781

Shart in mart!
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>>48884621
What does being a racist have to do with having thin skin?
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>>48884600
Warcraft has done slavery ad-nauseam and nobody is enough of a faggot to whine.
That sort of nonsense isn't stopped through giving clickbait "journalists" and tumblrite SJWs what they want, it's done by telling them to fuck off and ignoring them altogether afterwards.
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>>48884718
>What does being a racist have to do with having thin skin?
because everything involving some other race is offensive as fuck to you

hence every mtg thread in the last 80 years turning into 'waaah black people exist'
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Niggers should be purged, and the white whores who enable their niggerdom should be strung up after a good raping.

DAY OF THE ROPE GAS THE JEWS RACE WAR NOW!
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>>48884726
>Warcraft has done slavery ad-nauseum and nobody is enough of a faggot to whine.
Really? Damn. Good for them, I guess. I don't really know that much about Warcraft, but did the enslaving group also look and sound a lot like the American South? A Gothic Southern set, I think, would have to be more American Slavery and less Conquering Asshole Slavery, so I think it might be more controversial than Warcraft's. Again, not too familiar with Warcraft, though.

>That sort of nonsense isn't stopped through giving clickbait "journalists" and tumblrite SJWs what they want, it's done by telling them to fuck off and ignoring them altogether afterwards.
Whether that's true or not (I think it could be), one thing we know for sure is that Wizards doesn't know this or agree with it. For better or for worse, you're right in that Southern Gothic Magic isn't gonna happen anytime soon.
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>>48884759
A for effort, bud.
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>>48884647
>I have never heard of hyperbole, and I have to take everything literally. Also, you are niggerfaggot, that's not ad-hominem btw.

You're free to refute any of the other points I've made in my original post.
*tips fedora*
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>>48884755
>because everything involving some other race is offensive as fuck to you
I'm honestly baffled. YOU'RE the one that got offended at "skinmates," not me. I didn't give a shit and still don't. Doesn't that make you the racist, by your own reasoning?
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While y'all were arguing about niggers and such this was posted.

I know this is the /pol/ general and not the Conspiracy Spoilers thread, but still
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>>48884816
>offended
like I already said, I was just trying to help you get your point across

oh! you think because I called you a racist shithead that what you said bothered me. I can see how you would think that. allow me to set the record straight: all racist people are shitheads, that has nothing to do with your post or you specifically
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>>48884813
I always figured taking somebody at their word was a sign of taking them seriously, so yeah, I'll take you at your word when you say a blatant lie.
And besides, the other bits of your post weren't wrong. It's true we've had black people on just about every plane for a long time now, and that Wizards is hiring PR people to make sure they don't piss off SJW, and that it is definitely a little hamfisted and shitty sometimes. I don't really have a response to that other than a shrug.

>>48884834
Unfortunately, it's not really noteworthy at all. Firebreathing kinda sucks. Which is lame, because it's one of my favorite mechanics, and it's roughly perfect from a flavor standpoint most of the time, but it's outclassed on the regular. 1 mana for 1 extra power is really not very efficient.

>>48884846
>I was just trying to help you get your point across
I think you have me confused for the other guy, Anon. I'm white, the guy who got called skinhead, not the guy who said it. Since I know you responded to the black guy about it, saying it would help his point not to say "skinmate," I think you might be talking to the wrong person entirely.
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>>48884917
>I think you might be talking to the wrong person entirely.
happens on an anon image board

have an alright day
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>>48884834

Can you say "Goblin", as in, the token?

Also, I'm assuming conspiracies aren't legal for EDH, right?
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>>48884998
I think goblin tokens aren't called anything, just they're goblin type tokens.

I know quite a few things maked named tokens though, but not if any are in red
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>>48884998
name a card means you cant name tokens. you cant normally use conspiracies in EDH, unless i guess you make up some houserules with your buddies
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>>48884674
Lorwyn was also infested with humoungous treants, rabid giants and batshit crazy fire elementals, you know. Also demonic merfolk, but only in Shadowmoor.
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>>48885067
shadowmoor flavor didnt resonate with me. and all that stuff still sounds cool. the whole plot isnt "us good guys have to band together and fight the evil aliens!" like BFZ block or EMN.
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>come to look at some mtg spoilers
>Inevitable "WE WUZ KANGZ" memeing and backlash over people flipping their shit everytime they see an mtg card with a black person on it.
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>>48885103
It was more like "The good and familiar has turned evil and alien!" which I felt was expressed well through the lorwyn/shadowmoor legendaries. Bow that the aurora is gone and such, I'd like to see how Lorwyn and its inhabitants are faring now.
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>>48884156
I love the white armor on her. She's intimidating, like death herself. I want her to take out her large futa dick and take me for her own
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>>48884998
No and no.
>playing conspiracy 1 with friends
>local Johnny practically has an orgasm while drafting
>"Oh, man, guys, I just found something so broken, you won't believe it"
>get to matches, in his pod
>Doomed Traveller
>Intangible Virtue
>Rousing of Souls, three hits, nicely done
>he flips three Muzzio's preparations and names "Spirit," puts out three tokens with three +1/+1 counters each
>gulp
>Can you do that?
>"Yeah, of course it is Anon. It's a creature token with the name 'spirit.'"
>It seems kind of broken.
>Urge people to look it up because I don't have a smartphone yet, guy accuses me of salt (accurately)
>nobody looks it up
>he wins every game, it's not even fun by the end because he's just sweeping everyone
>get home
>no, you can't name "spirit" after all
He said it wasn't on purpose, but later he got kicked out of a standard tourney for proxying flipwalkers he didn't have on him (he claims he owned copies, but left them at home). I dunno.
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>>48885182
That's Olivia's deal, sorry.
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>>48885067
Not to mention the Queen of the Fey(who happens to be the supreme deity of the setting) is an absolutely insane, unholy fusion of Tzeentch and Slaanesh.
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>>48885187
Well it says "name a card" and tokens aren't cards rulewise so no you can't.
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>>48885274
Yeah, I know that now. Just relating a story where that was relevant.
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>>48885226

>implying everything bitten by Olivia doesn't sprout a futa dick
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>>48885358
>implying Black Carmilla is a Voldaren when she could be another orphaned Markov who is grudgingly helping out Sorin
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>>48885017
If a token is not named by the process that creates it, its name is the same as its creature types. A token that is a Goblin is named "Goblin", a token that is a Goblin Soldier is named "Goblin Soldier", etc.
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>>48882931
Birds can fly tho. And red and black mana are cool too.
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>>48884183
>just like you're about to spend all of Kaladesh going on about shitting streets.
You sound alittle butthurt buddy, you need to go shit that curry back into the street where you got it, it's making you irritable
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>>48883496
$60
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Anyone else excited for this guy? I mean he is a super solid 6 Drop considering Green.

Mana Doubling+ Card Draw all on a 5/5 Trampler.
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>>48886145
Oh yeah. He's going to find a home in Mayel almost for sure.
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>>48886074
No. Other reprints like JTMS are in limited print and $15 per pack sets so they don't go down in price. This is a $3 a pack set and it doesn't have a strict limited print run.
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>>48886145
I really really like this card. I'm going to in ironically suggest this in any ramp-splashing for EDH.
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>>48886145
Might go straight into Maelstrom Wanderer
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>>48883747
>abloo bloo bloo muh sjw menace
What the crap.
Are you retarded?
You are literally complaining about a chocolate elf.
That should be a strong indicator that you need to get off of 4chan and go hide in your Stormfront circlejerk.
/tg/'s love for chocolate elves has been around for longer than you've been able to grasp that the internet exists. Just leave. Take your stupid memes and your incomprehensible faggotry somewhere else where people will suck you off for fighting a "good fight" against a threat that has no impact on a game you don't play.
You retard.
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>preordered a box
I'm going to regret, aren't I?
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>>48886593
If you don't draft your box then yes. Otherwise congrats on $100 well spent. 12 instances of 2-3 hours of fun is worth $90 right?
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>>48886593
Pulling a Berserk will pay back for your box.
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>>48883747
>What were Mirage and Visions
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>>48886690
>Pulling a Goyf will pay for your box!
Not only are you a fucking retard for banking on pulling mythics, but Berserk's price has already halved.
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>>48886690
That's really cool actually. Wasn't the last time Berserk was printed in Beta? But you have to consider almost every Beta rare is like $150
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>>48886756
It was printed in Alpha, Beta, Unlimited, and FTV Exiled.
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>>48886780
Thanks. So it was printed in the first three sets 20+ years ago and in a $85 FTV set. Guess the price isn't going to change more than 60%
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>>48886750
Well, I'm not exactly wrong.

It would be very difficult to not pull at least $50 from a box, getting a Berserk would give you another $50 of value to equal $100 at least
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>>48886837
You sound like the kind of person that hyped up MM2.
>Ignore the Comet Storms and Endrik Sars, you only need one Goyf or Bob to break even!
Sure the total value of your box might come to $100 technically, but who's going to buy a fuck ton of $0.10 draft commons and uncommons? Anything under $2 is basically worthless.
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>>48886881
At least this set will be fun to draft.
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>>48886881
>who's going to buy a fuck ton of $0.10 draft commons and uncommons
Me. I build hardcore budget builds and try to balance between playability and getting the price to be as low as possible. Right now in my shop's meta I have a pretty decent deck that battles on even with most other decks and it only cost me $15.
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>>48883575
Can we discount the fucking meming for a moment? This thing is gonna be fucking nuts. Hate draft a huge bomb and this lets you make copies of it
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When are more spoilers?
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>>48886806
You could pull a foil berserker
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>>48886881

The difference is that MM2 was a terribly designed draft set as well lmao Daybreak Coronet with 0 enchantment support

Conspiracy 2 looks like it will be genuinely fun to draft and it isn't deliberately overpriced for no reason. For Conspiracy 2 the fact that there's a bunch of good stuff in there that might make the set worth cracking just for value is a BONUS. Rather than, like MM2, the only thing there is.

Also, the MSRP of a Conspiracy 2 box is like, half that of a MM2 box.

>>48886919

That's nice dear.

And for every person like you who will buy a few playsets of some commons and uncommons there will be hundreds and hundreds of those cards rotting forever in cardboard boxes or throw directly into the trash.

The budget and rogue brewer communities cannot hold up the weight of the near infinite piles of worthless draft chaff that came out of MM2, the cards simply aren't worth the effort it takes to post them.
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>One who ruled willing subjects would need no such protection.
GEE ADRIANA.
WHAT DID YOU USE TO DO?
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>>48884007
because in the LOVECRAFTian worldview black people are subhuman beasts in the same vein as fish-men
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So this weekend there's supposed to be some preview drafts apparently. Anyone know how many and if they're gonna be livestreamed? The only one I found out about is one in Melbourne Australia and I'm not even sure if they'll stream it.
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>>48886405
Wanderer is "intro rare jank".dec as is though.
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>>48887242
Why does "need no such" sound so awkwardly phrased?
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>>48887635
Intro Rare Jank that'll fuck your shit up
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>>48887661

Seems like it's almost a double negative but i don't think it is in this case.
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>>48887242
>WHAT DID YOU USE TO DO?
I mean, I suppose she just guarded the King from assassination attempts and shit like that. Maybe these are more like anti-riot fellows trained to quell popular uprisings.
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>>48887954
>I suppose she just guarded the King from assassination attempts and shit like that
Yea and how did that go for her.

I'm actually surprised at how much wotc has made he hate a character who has been in 1.5 URs and like two card texts.
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>>48887954
Wasn't there an implication that she was having similar doubts about Brago since he went ghost?
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>>48887967
>Yea and how did that go for her.
Haha, yeah, I was gonna say something along those lines too
I have to admit that I'm pretty disappointed too.
>>48887978
I think I remember that. It makes sense. She seems categorically opposed to tyranny, and eternal-ruler ghost-king sounds kind of tyrannical.
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>>48888045
He was also apparently pretty dickish when not a ghost, and being a ghost just made him more dickish.

I kind of liked Marchesa and while I really like her new art I don't particularly care if she stays the queen, I just don't want Adriana to do fuck.

She seems to just want to push Selvana as a democracy president or some shit, that'd be not as awful
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>>48887661
It does? I like that turn of phrase actually, but I'm a non native speaker so what do I know.
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>>48888069
>She seems to just want to push Selvana as a democracy president or some shit, that'd be not as awful
Didn't Selvala assassinate Brago the first time? Why is she OK with that?
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>>48888146
>However, only three years after he had ascended to the throne, King Brago was diagnosed with a hereditary and incurable disease. The priesthood — or Custodi — started giving treatments to prolong his life but extended themselves too far. His body would deteriorate, but he wouldn't die. Thinking it an act of mercy, Selvala ended his suffering with a dagger through his heart. Brago's spirit that was consequently released, was unable to save Selvala when the Custodi threw her into the dungeons for murder.
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>>48888091
I don't think there's anything WRONG with it, is the thing. I think it just might be archaic. Like, if I were to say something like that, I would say it like
>One who ruled willing subjects would not need such protection.
The negation just sounds weird to my ear, for some reason, and it's driving me nuts because I don't know why.
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>>48886145
This is gonna go straight into my EDH deck
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>>48883575
HAS NO
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>>48888291
SHALL NOT
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>>48882731
Guys...
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>>48888291
STYLE
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>>48888397

We know
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>>48883424
It reflects her 'devotion' for green. Makes sense.
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>>48888285
That sounds much weirder.
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This one looks fun.
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>>48885187
If only someone had read the fucking card.
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>>48889443
neat art, shame about that ability
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>>48889443
so this is extremely overcosted, right
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>>48889443
This doesn't seem very good unless you're swimming in oodles of mana.

Which, if you have selvala, might happen.
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>>48889562
It doesn't just make a "twin", it makes a copy. You are paying 6 to make a 3/3 into a 6/6 while creating an additional 3/3 that has the potential to become a 6/6 in addition to making another 3/3 that has to potential to become a 6/6 in addition to making another 3/3 and so on.
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>>48884716
Fucking chocked on my coffee
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>>48889443
Its a nice bomb in draft, shame its so shitty in constructed.
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>>48889653
yeah so you're paying 5 for a 3/3 with an ability to add 6/6 worth of stats on the board for 6 mana

on the other hand mitotic is 12/12 for the same initial cost
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>>48889698

not every card can be a legacy staple
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>>48889724
The only reason I posted the mitotic was to have a relevant, yet unrelated image; but in the spitting slimes' defense in that case, when you activate monstrosity, you can trade with a 6/6 without losing card advantage, and the mitotic can never swing for more than 4 at any given time, no matter how much mana you dump into it.
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Lets just consider for a moment...

Kaya is a black female ghostbuster...

That is all
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>>48884368
Your skin tone and hair color affect which colors suit you well. You're whining about the fucking wording, you little prick.
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>>48890249
That's what everyone was saying when she was revealed. Also WE WUZ KANGZ because she's of noble lineage.
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>>48890249
A black female ghost buster who can go on the down low and let things cool down after she steals people's health and cards.

She also only kills 1/1 spirits.
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>>48889443
Considering Selvala, the other creature that doubles your mana base, and burgeoning, this slime is a decent mana sink, 6 mana for 6 power and toughness.
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>>48890249
#Dicksoutforkaya
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>>48884448
More likely it would be like race-mixing is perceived today by rich upper class families. Keeping the bloodline 'pure' is probably of pretty big importance to Innistrad vampires.
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>>48889443
Powerful in draft but its useless anywhere else.
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>>48890881
>Powerful in draft but its useless anywhere else.

"anywhere else" consists of Legacy and EDH, what do you expect?
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>>48890018
Why fucking not Maro?
Oh right we need shitty cards for new players and limited.
Btw i'm happy with the set having so much VALUE
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>>48890968
And Vintage. And Highlander formats.
No chance this card gets pointed in Canlander, though.
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>>48890968
Well, if anything, EDH is the only place where big creatures with weird effects have a chance.
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>>48885233
>unholy fusion of Tzeentch and Slaanesh.
40k fag reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>48891229
>triggered
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>>48891007
Because if every new card was Abrupt Decay, Deathrite Shaman, JtMS or Snapcaster, you'd have a rotating format.
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>>48891337
We did get that nice streak that had Debt Sculptor, Mystic, Batterskull, new Swords, Wurmcoil, Snappy, Liliana of the Veil, Decay, and Shaman. Then everything changed when we got le low power block of shit (though it still had Eidolon of the Great Revel and the Thoughtseize reprint).
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>>48891516
And Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time. As I said, rotating format. Imagine if every card in every set was that strong. Including the commons, see Gurmag Angler.
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>>48891566
Imagine.... I actually want to see a set with 100% playable cards now.
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>>48891516
One day, enchantments will actually matter, and then theros anti-enchantmwnt cards will be in every sideboard.
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>facebook dot com slash Games.Laboratory

OH SHIT
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>>48891872
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>>48891872
OH FUG M8 HOW EXPENSIVE WAS IT?
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>>48891581
I don't. I really don't want to have such a fluctuating metagame every three fucking months.
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>>48891886
Does this kill colorless creatures outside the draft format?
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>>48884600
>Get thicker skin.

>Gives useful advice for communicating effectively
>Has a thin skin

You should have been a cheerleader, because encouraging people who are already on your side is all you apparently want to be good at. Leave the arguments to the adults.
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>>48886145
Oh man, I can't wait to slam this into my EDH deck.
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>>48891886
>>48891872
>>48889443
>>48888397
>>48883353
>>48883341

What the hell is going on with this set? Did they think monarch was so gimmicky they needed to assure they could push boosters even if people hated the draft environment?
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>>48891889
Almost $10. Not a ton but kinda annoying to pay that much for an uncommon
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>>48891937
No, because colorless is not any of the chosen colors.
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>>48891937
yawn
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>>48891937

>How do we make our player like this new character?
>I know, we'll have her kill a fan favorite old character!
>Brilliant!
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>>48891937
Wow. That's going to make waves in the Conspiracy drafts. A common too? Horey shite.
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Wasn't going to post this originally but
>new Mercadian Masques art

>>48891970
Right, thanks
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>>48892049
Whoops, nvm, that art's a reprint
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>>48891937
>>48891970

Just in case it isn't clear, this is the difference between "Destroy target creature that isn't one of the colors nobody chose" and "Destroy target creature that's one of the chosen colors. Inane wording aside, this card requires a quality to exist. Colorless cards are flat-out immune.
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>>48883353
Aw... The death of clone. Power creep does happen.
Wish they picked a better name.
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>Beast Within
noice
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>>48892049
That art is really sweet but isn't it actually Kaladesh? That looks like a spy shooterin in the top right
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>>48891937

Wow, awesome flavor text. Kaya's such a badass!
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>>48886145

Did somebody say Mayael EDH?
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>>48891872
>MFW 2 weeks ago someone on pucatrade send this to me
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>Spirit of the Hearth

Damnit
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SHOW AND TELL CONFIRMED
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>Birbs reusing the same fucking art again

CAN WE GET SOME NEW ART FOR BIRDS OF PARADISE AND LLANOWAR ELVES?

THERE'S LITERALLY ONLY ONE FUCKING BIRD IN THE PICTURE DESPITE IT BEING CALLED BIRDS
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>>48892296
Birds's art suits Paliano to be fair. Architecture isn't 1-1 buy idea is similar. I like when generic cards or cards from other planes get another plane themed arts though.
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>>48892263
That robit looks sick
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>>48892205
Mercadians had lots of cool little artifact toys Because they're stranded thran after whatserface dropped them off on another plane with some goblins that actually knew how survival worked to help them along
Which is why the kyren still have such political power and are obnoxious schemers instead of being lolaggro.
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>>48886145
What a great card for EDH! Should be great in terms of politics
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>Guttersnipe
fuuuuuuuck i hate that guy
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FREE WILLY
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Damn, _he's cute
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>>48892241
Your Angry? Literally last week, I traded for three playsets of Visions, and one set of spanish seman visions.
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>>48892817
Ok, that card is funny. Font exactly get the flavor though.
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>>48892817
4/3 trample for 4, being a possible 6/5? Well, it's not great, but it is far from last pick.
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HOLY FUCK DAMNNATION CONFIRMED
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>>48893186
fuck off with that bullshit
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>>48893186
You know, you could try harder if you want to hurt me. Next time you're gonna bait, at least use a pic to try and back it up.
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>>48882972
It has always been printed at rare just shut the fuck before you make a bigger fool or yourself.
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>>48893545
Cool aftereffects, right?
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>>48892895
Flavor for Melee seems to be that the more they and their friends spread chaos, the more they can take advantage of that chaos in combat.
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>>48891229
Do you know where you are
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Someone drafted it and showed off their cards.

https://imgur.com/a/4OuyK
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>>48894140
>https://imgur.com/a/4OuyK

Thank you for sharing, those are incredibly comfy reprints.
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>>48894140
>Show and Tell
DRAFTING DAT SHIT
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>>48894140
Notable ones include:
>Diablolic Tutor
>Show and Tell
>Beserk
>Birds of Paradise

There's of course more then that, but some I'm putting out there.
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Why did they put the looter clause at the end? why?
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>>48894261
>>48894279
>Show and Tell
Where? I see something with "Show and Tell" written on it.
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>>48894324
Otherwise Quill would be too strong, making every opponent vote Feather 100% of the time.
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>>48884780
Slaves don't have to be literal niggers for Southern Gothic to work.
Slaves were not niggers, nigger "culture" developed, or more accurately was shoved down their throats by the media, in the 20th century.
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>>48883747
I wonder why they didn't try to push diversity in Tarkir and just let all the humans be obviously asian.

Felt kinda weird after nigger greeks.
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>>48894356
How is that better than choosing Quill 100% of the time? With 2 other players on the board, a 2/1 flyer at 5 is a non-issue and with no card advantage, there's no reason not to let you loot.
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>>48884674
>Shit I just want a reprinting of lorwyn boxes.
Why don't they do that? Like just in general?

Somewhat new player here, legit question. Yugioh does it somewhat, there are "new" products that have LOB boosters in them.
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>>48887661
Because Adriana is a sanctimonious bitch.
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>>48884485
>>Kaladesh
>>based on shit
Why yes it is
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>>48894414
Still reminds me we didn't get a single new Mark Tedin image in new Zendikar even though he made most of the hedron shit and Emrakul.

I'm sad now. Thanks, anon.
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>>48894428
Because people didn't like Lorwyn.

Also, Rosewater asked a year ago if people would like Draft boxes for old sets like original Innistrad. So maybe one day we will get straight reprints of sets.
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>>48894411
>How is that better than choosing Quill 100% of the time? With 2 other players on the board, a 2/1 flyer at 5 is a non-issue and with no card advantage, there's no reason not to let you loot
Except letting your opponent filter their deck is suicide. It's completely reasonable to balance out one's votes so they get less filter and less pump.
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>>48894506
Wasn't Innistrad one of the worst draft sets of all time?
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>>48894535
Are you joking? It's cited by many as one of the absolute best.
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>>48894535
>Wasn't Innistrad one of the worst draft sets of all time?
You are gravely mistaken.
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>>48894563
Carlos!
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>>48894535

Innistrad is when they figured out draft. Literally every set has been modeled after that one in terms of draft. We get multicolored cards in every set now because of how successful that draft environment was.
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Whens the next spoiler event? I need to know what the black mythic is
Also I need to know if theres going to be a new muzzio
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>>48891007
Rosewater has nothing to do with Conspiracy
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>>48894972
Tomorrow, I believe.
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>>48891872
>uncommon
MY FUCKING DICK
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>>48894972
I think there won't be a mono-black mythic because there are already three Bx mythics.
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>>48891946
That's literally the opposite of what I was doing, though. Did you mix me up with the person I was responding to like the last guy did?
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>>48892049
Return to Mercadia with Rishadan Port at mythic 2017 confirmed
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>>48894470
Well all I want is Rebecca Guay art.
All I get is suffering.
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>>48889443
One more for the ooze tribal.
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>>48895284
If by suffering you mean BFZ, yeah, that set is suffering. If you mean conspiracy, well, I mean I don't see how is doesn't go above and beyond expectations of a normal priced unlimited print run multiplayer draft focused set.
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>>48891599
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>>48895344
By suffering he means he gets no new Rebecca Guay art.
You would know this if you could read.
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>>48895505
I know it will never be in line with a constructed set's art direction again, but it would be nice to see a piece pop up in Conspiracy or something.
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>>48883948
Only if their creatures are fatter than your fatties
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>>48893214
The bait is that it fits the number crunch, not that it has been spoiled.
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>>48884173
>set based on Greek mythology
>city-states are an important part of the lore
>oh cool I wonder which ones they're going to draw inspiration from, there's bound to be some interesting shit
>Meletis is Athens
>Akros is Sparta
>Okay sure, most people are familiar with those two, I hope they're not the only ones, maybe we get Thebes, Troy would be nice because of its role despite not being an actual city-state
>Setessa is based on a DC-comics interpretation of a town Herodotus once mentioned and might not even exist

And that's when I learned never, ever to wish Wizards try to get "inspiration" from real-world concepts you care about
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>ban twin in modern for no real reason
>reprint Deceiver Exarch in conspiracy for no real reason
>make it uncommon and actually change text layout

But why?
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>>48895798
>make it uncommon
>a card that has been uncommon in every printing is getting reprinted at uncommon
No
Way
What are they thinking?
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>>48895798
So not only is it STILL AT UNCOMMON
which it has never NOT been

it gets printed text to match the Oracle change of bullet points

and you're SHITTY about this?

fuck off.
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>>48895798
>>make it uncommon
You mean keep it at uncommon?

The text format is objectively better, too
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>>48895284
Hey, Richard Kane Ferguson's Desertion art got reprinted
>new
Oh

Yeah
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>>48895834
>>48895861
>>48895900
The card doesn't belong in the set though

It also doesn't need a reprint
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>>48896065
>The card doesn't belong in the set though
Says who
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>>48896076
>be in the new plane of Fiora
>random phyrexian chuckle fuck hanging around too
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>>48896098
Look, you can say what you like in here, but don't insult Dave, he's a great bartender and generally a nice guy.
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>>48896098
>Be in the new plane of Fiora
>Random Kozilek chuckle fuck hanging around too
>Random Elesh Norn chuckle fuck hanging around too
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>>48896065
>>48896098
You're forgetting the glorious reprint of Rout we got in CNS 1, Conspiracy sets can have whatever they damn well please in the name of Lord FUN.
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>>48896127
Norn even touching a plane would probably destroy all life on it eventually since she'd just give the place Phyrexian HIV.
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Wheres Muzzio?!
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>get a box to phantom draft with friends
>will build queen marchesa EDH if i open her
>will put in all decent on color cards that i open and some stuff from cns 1 I've got left over like a magister of worth, power of fire, foil vedalken orrery, mortify coercive portal
how much decent stuff for a deck could be in the box? I'm thinking hallowed burial, grenzo, daretti, kaya, the monarch dragon, knights of the black rose, maybe even Adriana just to mess with the flavor, capital punishment, opalline unicorn, besmirch, ghostly prison, diabolic tutor, gratuitous violence, deadly designs, harvester of souls, rogues passage, subterranean tremors, phyrexian arena
shit i think in a very janky way a conspiracy block constructed edh deck is entirely within reason. then again those sets might as well be called edh masters
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>>48891872
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>>48887686
Yeah, that's probably the most fun way to build it.
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>>48896626
I just threw Marchesa and all good white removal into my formely lead by Mogis "No creatures for anyone" deck which is just removal, draw and walkers.
Being the monarch in the colors of phyrexian arena, outpost siege and chandra pyromaster is ridiculously OP and I love our new poisonmilf overlord.
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>>48886145
Tottally needs to be in my EDH deck. Don't have enough draw/mana in my Gitrog yet.
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>>48896626
>>48897000
yeah that sounds sweet. i just remembered i also have a basandra left over from cn1. make creatures attack while having a bunch of deathtouchers out, now that's delicious
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Love all the nonrare mana fixing in this set. Evolving Wilds, Opalline Unicorn, Lay of the Land, shimmering grotto, Explosive Vegetation, the green guy that lets everyone discard for a basic land, and all the basic landcycling. I can see myself playing 3-5 color goodstuff even without Sovereign's Realm. Hot damn I haven't been this hype to draft a set since ever, I think. Merfolk Looter and Coiling Oracle are in the set too, as is Voyaging Satyr. Woohoo!
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I was mostly just using this to test the new site but I guess I'll post this here because I actually got into an argument with someone over this.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11035605
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Stupid question, I'm new. Google searching "gold card" gold bordered cards" isn't helping me. Finding other stuff.

would someone be kind enough to tell me what kind of card this is? I see these cards with gold bordering behind/on the art side of the card? Curious what it means?
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>>48897754
The card is two or more colors.
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>>48897754
A card has a gold border if they're multi-colored.

Green cards generally have a green border, red have red, etc.

Something with more than 1 color has a gold border
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>>48897754
heh heh, butthole priest
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>>48897785
>>48897788
thank you
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>>48897890
No problem. Never be afraid to ask questions, unless you're in the Modern thread.
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