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Sunwalkers Need More Love Edition

Discuss the lore of the Warcraft universe and its potential uses in TTRPGs

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>>48852475
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>>48869957
First for fuck Gilneas
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REMEMBER
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Fuck corpsefuckers
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4th for Dark Irons
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>>48869957
>Sunwalkers Need More Love Edition
You could have said Taurens in general, they live on Azeroth in spectator mode.
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>>48870013
Illidan did nothing wrong.
Also, KT (the other one) didn't really do anything wrong either. Dalaran were just dildos about the whole necromancy thing.
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>>48870023
DID NOTHING WRONG

GILNEAS DESERVED IT
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When do you think they'll release a story of Arthas raping Sylvanas's corpse and making her disembodied soul watch?
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>>48870023
>>48870116
Name one warcrime Lady Sylvanas commited that wasn't justified.
Protip: you can't.
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>>48870159
I'm mad but I laughed fuck you
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>>48870159
>warcrime
>justified

I really hope you're being facetious, but I can't be sure anymore.
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>>48870153
What else would be waiting for her in the HellShip?
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>>48869957
>Every race had at least three mounted units in WC3
>Mounted Combat never ever
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>>48870234
I bet he did it too. Fucking with her head and corpse[/quote] was his favorite past time.

I bet he fucked the hole he made with Frostmourne.
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>>48869957
>its potential uses in TTRPGs
Has there been any of that in these threads? No trying to nag, just curious if there's a point in digging for it in the archives.
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>>48870339
>[/quote]
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>>48870395
Fuck you, autocorrect is a slut.
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>>48870369
Occasionally. New expac being so close means it'll keep diverging into vidya sometimes.
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>>48870369
STILL prepping a campaign. Trying to run two campaigns simultaneously while leveling another alt is difficult.

"I should have it put together in a week" I said. I'm an idiot.
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>>48870369
One guy tried to port the Aspects to PF.

Went pretty well.

Speaking of ports!

>Your highest-level character (if you've got multiple max-levels, choose one) appears next to the party from your last tabletop campaign. What happens?
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>>48870497
Speaking of, fuck Legion is really testing me, I'm desperately trying not to get back into WoW rn
Back to lore, what ever happened to Stromgarde?
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>>48870677
>Max level arms warrior
Hey cunts watch this
>proceed to leap through the air then whirlwind a giant to death with ease
Alternate
>max level frost deathknight
hey watch this
>summon an ice storm around myself and accidentally the whole party
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>>48870677
>Max level mage appears next to a group of world shaping demi-gods.
Probably be their portal bitch while writing down everything they say for posterity. Someone needs to record these things.
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>>48870687
>Back to lore, what ever happened to Stromgarde?
Sylvanas happened.
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>>48870753
>Blizzard writing happened.
Fixed.
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>>48870661
You were the guy offering to run a game a couple weeks ago, right?
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>>48870661
What system are you planning on using? When is it to take place chronologically?
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>>48870753
>>48870782
Blizzard forgot about it. Stromgarde is still as it was 12 years ago.
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>>48870687
Stromgarde got wrecked after the scourge swept through Lordaeron. A mix of Alterac bandits, Ogres and Forest Trolls took their capital and scattered its people.

During Cata the living prince was raised into undeath by Sylvanas and was part of her campaign to take Arathi Highlands. During Legion we learn through the DK order hall campaign that the Forsaken took over Stromgarde and Prince Trollbane wields Trol'kalar let broke away from Sylvanas and hte Forsaken. When the Dks came to "ask" for his fathers corpse and for him to wield Trol'kalar we learn that the former king from WC2 had him assasinated during the events of WC3.

TLDR, Arathi Highlands is nothing but a undead kingdom that may or may not be swallowed up by Sylvanas' Forsaken at a later date.
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>>48870782
Just because your favorite faction was taken down does not mean it's bad writing.

>>48870865
The Forsaken took it over in Cataclysm. Galen Trollbane was undead-ized by Sylvanas and gang.

That's changing in Legion, though.

Now, if you want to talk about kingdoms that have actually been forgotten by the devs, let's look at Kul Tiras.

Here's hoping, with Jaina no longer the head of the Kirin Tor, she'll finally take the seat of Lady-Admiral.
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>>48870917
>favorite faction
As if anyone ever care about Stromgarde to that degree.
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>>48870917
Why would she?

Jaina patricded her father and caused his fleet to sink around Theramore as her former countrymen were dieing because her father set out to find her.
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>>48870962
There are people in these threads so delusional about their obsession with Stromgade that they insist Stormwind's rebuilding is an "asspull" just because it takes the spotlight away from their pet nation.
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>>48870988
How quaint.
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>>48870977
No, she wanted peace and he wanted to waggle his dick at the Horde.
She stood back, still trying to get him to stand down, but not stopping Rexxar from doing what he had to.
Once Old Admiral Proudmoore was dead, she took over and set in place a tentative peace with Thrall and Orgrimmar.
But you sound like just one of those "jaina is ebil! and garrosh dindu nuffin" shitposters.
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>>48871031
Actually no, I recognize that what she did was for peace between the Horde and her people but what I'm arguing against is the asinine shit where people are saying Kul Tiras will accept her with open arms.
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>>48870677
>Watch this faggots
>proceed to walk into a horde of rampaging centaur warbands (DM basically just made the war between mongolia and china) with two big fuckoff glowing swords and tear the entire horde asunder
>when it's all over, they find him in the middle of a mound of corpses, whistling and wiping one of his swords with the shift of one of the centaurs
>"What's next?"
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>>48870064
What was the whole deal about them and Ula-Tek?
Actually, do we know what the fuck Ula-Tek even is?
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>>48871161
a Heavy Metal reference.
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>>48870854
Yes.
>>48870864
4e, though I know it doesn't appeal to everyone.

Originally, it was going to be right at the reopening of the Dark Portal with TBC, but it's been rolled back a bit to around the tail end of vanilla WoW.

Though it's an AU campaign, so a few details are intentionally changed. The factions aren't as unified, with the night elves, forsaken and Quel'thalas are all separate from the Alliance and Horde, Gilneas having crawled out from behind the wall earlier, and the diplomatic situation being more complicated.
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>>48871161
No longer canon is what Ula-tek is.
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>>48871297
>No longer canon
It's in the RPG, when was it canon?
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>>48871227
Are the classes going to be the same as 4e?
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>>48870442
>Until I somehow get PvP flagged and 4+ demon hunters tackle my skinny mage ass.
the best part of the invasions is showing up flagged and "accidentally" killing people with AoE
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>>48871502
>showing up flagged
>Not playing WARcraft on a pvp server
>Not having a grand old time ganking fools
Why even play an MMO
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>>48870701
>frost DKs
nice DPS with the new patch :^))))))
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>>48871386
Plenty of private RP servers liked to cite the RPGs as canon so they can get their way with dumb shit, like high elven druids who fuck like rabbits at the base of world trees. Thank Metzen and his coked up haze for getting the Chronicles made.
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So now that gnomes can be hunters and have mechanical pets, I want to make one. What should I name her? I've settled on her, because gnome males annoy me. Appearance isn't final, but I do like the green hair.
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>>48871854
>Gnome hunter
>Mechanical rabbit pet
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>>48871854
>>I've settled on her, because gnome males annoy me.
Come on, we all know the real reason you picked gnome female.
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>>48871854
KokSleev.
Name her KokSleev.
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>>48871854
Zoomer?
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>>48871854
Walkingtenga.
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>>48871922
Let's keep it clean now
>>48871940
Taken
>>48871971
More subtle than koksleev, but still 2dirty4me
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>>48871573
if you bully me ill obliterate your shit w-we still get free crits!
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>>48872051
>2dirty4me
Explain in great detail why you prefer female gnome to male
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>>48872069
free crits that scale off crit instead of haste now. Enjoy your no gimmick
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>>48871573
So, any decent patch analysis somewhere?
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>>48872101
Male gnomes are ugly. Girl gnomes a cute.
So I went for a cute name, not dirty.
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>>48872101
dat thick booty
dat shortstack
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>>48872051
Save it for the robot hound, then.
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>>48871854
MechaRabbit
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>>48872102
But we can pillar of frost like every 20 seconds now you stupid bully!
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>>48872131
I got in trouble with my last hunter because I tamed a monkey and named it Porch.
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>>48872114
>shortstack
You mean midget.
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>>48872152
Call me when you can throw ghouls at things
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>>48872155
I don't get it
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>>48872152
>frost DK activates pillar of frost
>unholy keeps playing normally
>unholy is still better
wew
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So many people here are actually happy with the changes to their (main) specs this expansion?

As an ele shammy I'm having a blast. It'll be fun to see how much the artifact changes gameplay.
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>>48872204
>>48872186
stop trying to bake me a batch of frownies
th is a no bully zone ok all DKs should be friends and not bully ok praise the four
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>>48872170
No. The proportions are better.
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>>48872199
Hi Randall.
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>>48872223
as a frost DK I was pretty annoyed, but I'm assuming it gets better at 110

I enjoyed the changes to affliction after getting used to the SoC nerf and change to drain soul
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>>48872155
>I tamed a monkey and named it Porch.
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>>48869957
As someone unfamiliar with the setting's lore but familiar with WoW at a casual level (haven't played the RTS games and thus don't have the main storyline and basically gleaned my understanding from playing during BC and WotLK in high school), I've got a question.

So, sun walkers are Tauren Paladins. How does that work? How does blizz fluff plains-tribe-pastiche Paladins? Because the idea appeals to me greatly.
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>>48872223
>Have mained ret since a friend invited me to play WoW halfway thorugh Cata
>See wha was done to my beloved spec
>Pic related
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>>48872374
tauren paladins are basically druids that worshipped the sun so hard that the Light was like "close enough I guess" and gave them paladin powers. It's not really represented in game, but that's how it's fluffed
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>>48872223
I'm glad I'm not the only one enjoying ele. I've seen a lot of negativity about it but I've had no troubles at all.
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>>48872223
>It'll be fun to see how much the artifact changes gameplay.

Not much. Most of the traits are passive increases to the damage/effectivity of abilities, cooldown reductions, or added effects to existing abilities.

You'll get one, maybe two traits that'll actually change gameplay per artifact in most cases.
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>>48872374
They worship the sun and the moon as eyes of the earth mother and their belief in the goddess as a bringer of life and natural justice gave them the power to use the light
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>>48872406
>>48872462
So they're spiritual figures to the Tauren in the same sense as shaman and Druids, but specifically they're focused on reverence of the sun in their shamanistic/Druidic practises, but because of the sun's place in their culture they're concerned with upholding justice and the other stuff that calls for a paladin's martial might.

Coolies.
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>>48872413
I'm using the really fire heavy set right now. Popping all cooldowns for endless stream of lava at almost 100% haste? Yes please.
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>>48872543
More or less. The similarities between the sunwalkers and traditional paladins can be explained by the founders being influenced by Tirion and the rest of the Argent Crusade during the Northrend stuff.
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>>48872553
The ecstasy of getting like 4 lava bursts in a row
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>>48872587
I have the HFC tier set (2 piece) bonus going too
>Fulmation and lava bursts for days
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I like playing arms right now. Is it wrong to play a goblin warrior in the halls of mighty valhalla?
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>>48873007
>Gnome warrior
>Goblin warrior
>Blood elf warrior
Disgusting
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>>48873080
Yeah only truly brutish races can understand a warriors rage!
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>>48873398
Outlands leveling gear/10
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>>48873398
Kill it with felfire.
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>>48873398
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>>48873398
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>>48873080
Blood elf warrior is fine. Midget races as front line plate wearers is fucking retarded though.
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>>48873414
"Burning Crusade as fuck" was my goal. I think I reached it.
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>>48873476
>Blood elf warrior is fine
Why would a race of magic addicts who use magic for literally everything be fucking warriors that whack shit with metal?
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>>48873533
Same reason they have Spellbreakers, I guess.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>48873533
Because their magic addiction would be easier to manage with them not having to pull in enough to satisfy their casting plus their addiction tax.
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>>48873570
Spellbreakers are arcane anti-mages
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>>48873533
Spellbreakers. And they had swordsmen in WC3. And hunters and rogues don't use arcane.
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>>48873621
This. Blood Elf Warriors in WoW are basically Spellbreakers.
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>>48873657
No, they're not
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Spell_Breaker_(Warcraft_III)
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>>48873620
Anti-mages that were clad in plate that whack shit with metal.
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>>48873745
>they're not blood elf warriors
>"Spell Breakers are elven warriors who are trained to disrupt and contort magical energies."
>first line of the link you posted

C'mon now.
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I used to think Hakkar and Seethe were somehow the same entity.
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>>48873842
You mean Sethe?
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>>48873657
>tfw spellbreakers died out on quel'thanas and you can't RP one because everyone just thinks you're out to shit out on mages and locks
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>>48873794
>>48873812
Remember that time you went all arcane as a warrior?
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>>48873870
Yeah.
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>>48873988
They're still around, Lor'themar ordered a revival of their order and ordered the surviving members to train up a new generation before/during the Isle of Thunder patch.
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>>48874220
It's a shame warglaives are demon hunter exclusive.
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>>48873533
>Why would a race of magic addicts who use magic for literally everything be fucking warriors that whack shit with metal?

why would they become rogues or hunters by that logic? those are hardly uncommon.
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>>48874281
Rogues are fucken magic at this point
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>>48871227
If you had to give an ETA on when you'd be able to run the campaign, what would it be?
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>>48874312
at this point, so are warriors. they get shit like avatar after all.
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>>48874325
Avatar WAS a dwarf-specific thing
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>>48874325
So does that make hunter the least magic class?
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>>48874344
They got nature magic
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>>48874275
No, it's a shame that I can't roll up a Spellbreaker. I'd love a class that was like that. Too bad complexity means "too difficult to balance" to Blizzard.

>>48874344
Maybe Marksman and Survival, if you squint. Beast Mastery has magic summons out the wazoo though.
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>>48871854
I shit you not, mine was named by the randomize button: Gnowai.
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>>48874407
Most the iconic unit ablities from the spellbreakers are in-game but spread out throughout the classes, same situation with the Priestess of the Moon hero unit.

Besides there are far too many melee classes already in WoW and a class who's soul purpose is to fuck up casters isn't something I'm sure a whole lot of people would want in Live.
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>>48874741
Yeah, even just the amount of anit-magic early death knights had was insane, I can't imagine what the spellbreakers would have been like.
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>>48874741
I guess you could extend it's anti-magic to anti-abilities in general, and then it still wouldn't be something many people would want in Live.
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>>48874841
Early DKs in general were insane. I loved having 3 DPS and 3 Tank specs. AOE tanking? I'm going Unholy with these points in Frost and Blood. Dual Wield or "I will soak all the damage" tanking? Frost with mostly Blood back up. Taking away that variety made it a lot less fun.
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>>48873532
That you did, sonny.

Now all you need is your Illidari tabard. Or whatever the belf Illidan faction was.
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>>48874924
The Ranged DK spec was hilarious.
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>>48874941
Not that anon, but I've been rocking the Purple Trophy Tabard of the Illidari since BC.
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>>48874924
Shadow of Death and Glyph of Corpse Explosion were hilarious.
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>>48874739
Randomize tried to name my Tauren Sparklenaga.
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>>48874741
>a class who's soul purpose is to fuck up casters isn't something I'm sure a whole lot of people would want in Live
I mained an unholy DK, suck my anti-magic shell, dark simulacrum, strangulate, mind freeze and death grip
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>>48875101
I mained a Dorf Prot Paladin through Wrath. My Stoneform and Cleanse made your class a joke.
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>all the demon invasions are only taking place in the old world zones

>you will never fight a demon invasion in a Pandaren village together with Chen and Li Li using nothing but farm tools and bare fists

>you will never celebrate with a banquet after that
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>>48876050
I think Pandaria's cluttered enough.

The demons would have a dang long que to get their shot.
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>>48875014
It really was. I was surprised at the time how fun each spec could be, and how viable split speccing was for them.

>>48874962
Is it wrong that I really liked the Clawing Shadows talent to make Unholy vaguely ranged? The other talents on that line are shit.
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>>48876090
>demons get rekt by sha
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weapon art thread

Post cool weapons
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Given their obsession with MUH LIGHT how are Draenei Shamans viewed by their fellow Draenei?
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>tfw no idea what to do for the next week and a half or so until Legion

I have shit DPS on my mains so I can't even raid. I guess I can level an alt but iunno what kind of alt I want to level.

>>48876465
If I recall most are suspicious of the Shaman though Velen welcomed them openly. I think most of the suspicion comes from them being broken Draenei.
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>>48876345
Reminder that you will never get it in that state.
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>>48870002
DELET THIS
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>>48876508
God, I kind of want to get back in and set up a garrison to pay for my own game time, but I left off during Cata, and I don't know if I could grind up that much in 7 days.
>>48876818
dogfucking britbongs go explode
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Not that I mean to complain, but whose idea was it to give rogues a default upgraded mind control?
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>>48873007
>>48873080
>>48873398

forsaken warrior master race
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>>48876844
Garrison Gold Production got nerfed, as far as I can tell, all of the old missions that gave gold give garrison resources now.
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>>48877006
What's the main difference between forsaken warriror and deathknight forsaken? One drank the blue koolaid and the other one hasn't ?
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Is there any point to RPing a DK after Wrath? What reason do they have for not commuting seppuku after Arthas was killed?
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>>48877096
Yeah, I'd never gotten Blingtron's Secret Vault until last week, and all it fucking rewards is 375 GR now. Whoop dee doo.
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>>48870369
To be honest, I want to make something like Scrollhammer while referencing WC3
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>>48877149
That's pretty much the whole point of their class storyline in Legion.
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>>48871854
ShoortStak
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>>48877097
You tell me, chuck.
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>>48877097
One summons significantly less other undead.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESzTP6_in4

corrupted Aram raid boss when?
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>>48873476
>not wanting to be a fuckhuge great axe wielding a gnome

Besides, the small size makes hiding inside draenei totems a viabke strategy if you wanna lure the horde into thinking that stables is poorly defended.
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>>48877689
Not as badly as seeing corrupted Jaina.

Also on another note, I just read some cringefest stuff about a Demon Hunter that can weild the light for some type of balance between Fel Magic and Holy Magic. PLease tell me that this is in no way cannon or something please?

Also was it better when the Light was a cosmic force of nature like Arcane and Nature magic where or do you like it better with Wind Chimes?
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>>48870013
Why is Illidan HUEG?
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>>48877689
Goddamn Metzen, I hate you so much but this actually looks like a good idea.
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>>48878522
Watch them fuck it up and go into way too much detail anyway
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>>48878566
what's the video about?
I can't see it right now.
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>>48878833
Metzen & Co want to make a children's books that introduce Azeroth from a kids persective who doesn't know that Night Elves or Tauren exist.
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How to be useful: an undead guide
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>>48877689
>Son of one of the world's greatest explorers

Oh fuck we've got the child of Jackson here
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>>48878833
Azeroth for kids done by a lost child tryin to get home.
The main points are
>Doesn't know much about other races
>Magic compass
>Is an artist and that will affect the people he contacts

Honestly I expect it to start out nice but turn into a cringe fest as they try to introduce kids to old gods and the other more gnarly side of warcraft.
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I think Illidari is pretty cool guy. Eh hunts deamons and doesnt afraid of anything.
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>>48878937
>Imply he isn't Harrison Jones' son
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>>48872223
I play War prot, how do you think I feel about suddenly casually walking through tanking because I can absorb so much damage my healers can attack?
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>>48873657
Is there any way to Transmog as a spell breaker?
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>>48878950
Well, it certainly can't get worse than Med'an

I don't think anything can be more cringe than Med'an
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>>48872223
Anyone play a BM hunter? I used to. Now I'm a focus starved auto attack turd and my solo potential for pve is in the tubes without the misdirect to pet and mend pet glyphs. Was my most played, had a ton of fun. Feels like hot garbage now.
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>>48876508
>>48876844
Go do invasions,it's literally free loot. Just get to the max level, do the broken shore quests, and in 3 days, you can have a full set of 700 ilevel.
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>>48876625
At least Frost get a piece of it, would have been a blasphemy if they didn't use Frostmourne in any of the weapons.
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>>48877097
The death knight forsaken changed sides a lot more:
Standard human in Lordaeron>Scourge>Forsaken>Scourge Death Knight>Ebon Blade
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>>48872223
I haven't played WoW since Wrath, and for the first time in a while, I actually really want to come back with Legion. None of the other expansions looked half as good.

How much has changed for what was a level 80 human disc priest?
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>>48877149
They get back to being more like a 3rd party in Legion, since they're under the direct orders of the LK, which is very fucking rad.
Bolvar basically put his cold burning nuts on the table and said "Give me the Ebon Blade to command, or it's Scourge electric boogaloo all over again".
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>>48879042
They've made it so you have to have your pet in tenacity if you want it to survive a fight, though I hate that misdirection still has a CD if you put it on your pet. Don't feel bad, at least you still have a spec. Survival is shit. If I wanted to roll a mail melee class, I'd play my shaman more.

>>48879089
Disc is no longer a bubble/absorb class. Instead you heal by DPSing. It can be great or bad, depending on how you are at spinning plates. I prefer to y'know, actually heal, so I've swapped to holy since being Disc since BC. Holy is about the same as it was, but less focused on renew spam.
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>>48879089
I heard it's some weird polyvalent mix between damage and heal.
But it was on /v/ so take that as you will.
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>>48879111
>>48879124

That sounds really cool yet at the same time I'm slightly intimidated by the change.

Should I get a character boost or what? I haven't actually bought anything yet, I'm still hesitant about the whole not playing for 5+ years thing.
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>>48870332
ICC tourney
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>>48879187
If you upgrade to Legion you get a free level 100 character boost, so there's that. Since the game is... 50? I think and boosts are 60, it makes more sense to get the expansion. Though you can level pretty quickly from 80 to 100 now. It's a matter of taste more than anything. If you know people who are still playing and wouldn't mind you playing on their account you may want to try that first.
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>>48879209
Yeah, I might just do that. I'd prefer an actual vanilla/Wrath experiance but Legion looks just tempting enough to try.
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>>48879208

>ToC
>Good for literally anything

I'm sorry, there are no reaction images derisive, confused or hateful enough for me to respond to your post.
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>>48879258
I liked the title and mounts...
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>>48879258
Hey the mounts were nice. The quests and grinding was utter shit and the raid and dungeon were a joke though, but it was funny pwning people on mounts.
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>the character you quietly slipped into a skimpy transmog

What's her name, /tg/? For me it's my belf mage. Everyone else is fully covered.
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Reminder that the zandalari are the master race and greatest of all time
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>>48879339
No one, cus I'm not a power virgin, and I only play plates.
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Just realised something.
Is there ANYONE someone from the first and second war might recognise?
I mean, even outside factions like dragons are reduced to just Aleks as a known figure.
And that token old-school death knight
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>>48878961
t. blood elf
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>>48870159
1. Attacking glorious overlord arthas.
2. Kidnap koltiras
3. Betraying the scourge
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>Can't be a glorious red skinned Eredar mage helping the alliance kill filthy orcs.
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>>48870159
Bomb my lovely British Gilneas. At some point worgen will h1ve to understand that the plage being unleashed on their lands and the Cataclysm makes going back to their lands outright silly.
GILNEAS WILL BE REBORN
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>>48879782
Well you sorta can. Isn't there a toy that transforms you?
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>>48879341
Trolls in all their forms only exist to shit up everyone's day. They are literally 'we waz kangs n sheit' and won't let anyone else have anything nice.
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>>48878950
I think it's pretty evident they're going to stay away from all that shit. At best he might see the obelisks of Ahn-Qiraj and the like from a distance, but a childrens book with an emphasis on drawing isn't going to show Lovecraft-lite monsters.
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>>48880343
Maybe they should talk about what happened to Fandral's son.
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>>48880343
>I think it's pretty evident they're going to stay away from all that shit
Maybe but this is Blizzard we are talking about they ALWAYS ere on the side of corruption or pointless grimderp character swings to try to make something more interesting.
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>>48876508
It's ridiculously easy to level alts with invasions. It slows down somewhat at 90+, but it's still worth it.
Also, that sweet, sweet loot; I leveled a MM hunter from 64 to 100 in less than a week, hoarding the rewards chests. Yesterday, I opened all of them at once and, in less than 3 minutes, went from an ilvl of 570ish to 710 thanks to warforged gear and weapon upgrades.
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>>48877097
Forsaken warriors are undead who just whack stuff, death knights are purposely raised and conditioned to use dark magic and inflict pain
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>>48873842
>tfw you realize that the Dead Mire in Outland is the Ruins of Kra'nak in Tanaan because of the non-draenei ruins and wind serpent skeleton
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>>48879339
my belf warlock is in the most ridiculous slutmog I've ever seen and I'll never even try with anyone else
>>48879362
>Conquerer's Battlegear doesn't exist
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>>48880695

show it


>>the character you quietly slipped into a skimpy transmog
>What's her name, /tg/? For me it's my belf mage. Everyone else is fully covered.

night elf druid

it just feels right for them
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>>48880706
unfortunately she's affliction so the pokers will have to go in Legion, but it's fun for now

shirt is the Death-Speaker's Tunic and the pants are Poisoncrafter's Kilt
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>>48880423
>>48880561
They're not writing it though. A renowned childrens book author is (whose name escapes me admittedly). The story is about a young boy who is shipwrecked and has to find his way home, he has a little book that he draws what he see's in it. I imagine the book will include empty pages or colouring in pages where Children are encouraged to draw "a little fishy man" or "a cow that walks like a man". His compass doesn't point north, it'll lead him on an adventure and its final point is probably his father or his home.

Embarrassingly, I'm more confident that this book won't touch upon Old God shenanigans or the Burning Legion or the Scourge than I am in the quality of Legions writing.
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>>48880798

That's fairly modest in comparison with some I've seen.
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>>48880817
the backside is a little more risque. It might not be the sluttiest, but it's better than endless Conq breastplates
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>>48880855

DAT

ASS

I couldn't resist troll.
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>>48870917

Thinking about it, how did Kul Tiras even work? A population of 10,000 isn't nearly enough to support a fleet as huge as the one seen in the second War and in WCIII: they must have lost over half their population when the fleet was destroyed.
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>>48880886
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>>48880798
>the pants are Poisoncrafter's Kilt
Those are bloomers and kneeguards
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>>48880343
I hope they don't but, at the same time, I see potential for it being done whimsically (for adults, that is):

>Here, sonny, this is Mr. Yogg-Saron
>WEAK-MINDED FOOLS!
>Or, rather, one of his zits. You see, Mr. Saron is as big as the continent of Northrend itself!
> I am the lucid dream. The monster in your nightmares. The fiend of a thousand faces. Cower before my true form.
>He is an Old God, a cosmic parasite made of corruption, madness, and the power of the void. He is currently working on corrupting Azeroth, the very land we stand on, in order to turn it into a universe-destroying abomination!
>His hobbies are corrupting things, making people crazier than an orc on an all-you-can-get-away-with tribunal, and extinguishing life.
>BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH!
>Now sonny, shake one of Mr. Saron's tentacles/appendages. You don't get to be rude to... people? Anyway, you don't get to be rude to people just because they look like a Gibbering Mouther orgy
>Tremble, mortals, before the coming of the end! Suffocate upon your own hate!
>Now let's go and visist Mrs. Therazane, a very beautiful lady [INTERNAL SNIGGERING INTENSIFIES] that lives in the Elemental Plane of the Earth, Deepholm
>Look upon the true face of death, and know that your end comes soon!
>Yeah, I know Yoggy. See you in a while about that Mimiron's Head you owe me. Hearthstone away, kid, I'll catch up in a moment.
>OH, BUGGER
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>>48881050
tell that to the Klaxxi m8
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>>48877689
>Dryad in a children's book
This is how you give people fetishes
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>>48876625
Well, my Frost DK get's to dual wield the shattered piece's so I'll take it. I'm so happy about the Artifact Weapon system, I made an enhancement shamen just to wield Doomhammer.
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>>48879339
Well, my Dreanai shamen hasn't had anything covering her midriff since level 20, does that count?
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>>48879992

They have a point though. Azeroth was a TROLL planet, and then the titans came and sent their ayys down.
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>>48881126

I was torn on whether to make an orc shaman or a tauren one.

Both are really good.
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>>48881126
I'm sticking with ele, I'm happy with the Fist of Ra'den.
I think shamans got one of the best set weapons, flavour wise at least.
And I'm honestly considering switching my warrior to Prot for that sweet Netharion scale.
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>>48881126

Doomhammer is a weapon that I can get why they made it Shaman (Thrall) but I really wish it had been available for Warriors.

I mean, it's THE Doomhammer. The Weapon of the greatest warrior the orcs ever had.
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>>48881297
Thrall used THE DOOMHAMMER to throw lightning bolts at things
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>>48878519
Massive gainz.
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>>48870013
I hope these two just fuck and get that 10,000 year tension out of the way already. Then they can focus on the Legion.
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>>48881304

As I said, I get why it's a Shaman weapon (it's most recent wielder was a shaman) but it feels more iconically warrior to me. But then, I grew up with Orcs and Humans and WC2...so yeah.
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>>48881372
>Implying Maiev didn't already subject Illidan to JUSTICE during those 10k years
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>>48881390
>implying there's any justice but the justice of the grave
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>>48881390
But this time it'd be on mutual terms. Besides, neither have them have tasted that sweet poon/cock since she cut his throat. The tension of even a few years without their regular hatefuck is killing them. It's driven Maiev to chain smoking.
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>>48881428
>and the true meaning... of fear.
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>>48871404
Basically, but I'm pretty liberal about reflavoring powers.

Also working on a few minor tweaks, like giving clerics a cloth armor option.

>>48874322
I really don't want to disappoint myself and others by failing to meet another ETA.
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>>48881433
Hold on, she cut his throat?
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>>48881457
Yeah. Read the Illidan book. Iirc, the death blow in their duel was her slashing his throat, then holding his head by his hair while he bleed out. The scene was written almost like an erotic novel. I liked the mixture of pseudo carnal imagery mixed with primal hatred and violence. It was very fitting for the two of them.
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>>48881488
Mix of violence and erotism is always a success.
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>>48881488
>Read the Illidan book
Anon, what on earth are you telling people to do?
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WoD Durotan's backstory is one of my favorite depictions of orcs in the setting.

They have a blood rage as a defense mechanism, because they're in a world full of giant monsters and ogres out to kill them, but they work to keep it under control and not give in to it. Durotan not being able to stop himself from killing his mother's wolf is clearly the greatest shame of his life, which he doesn't try to hide or justify.

Which is a hell of a lot better than the brown orc warmongering for justifying Thrall's "noble savage" claims. Such a shame they got overshadowed by Garrosh "SHOULDERS" Hellscream and his love affair with the old Horde.

It's also why I like Saurfang: He clearly doesn't see the first and second war as glamorous, because it fucking wasn't.
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>>48881505
I require an overlay of Outland and Draenor to show what areas changed and how
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>>48881505
I discovered Saurfang in Northrend, he was pretty based.

>Thrall saying his father is small
It's because not everyone is lucky like you to get a standing Orc model Go'el.
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>>48881518
Here's a scale comparison. It's a start.
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>>48881530
Oh look, they cut out the entire area that became Netherstorm
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>>48881498
That it is, anon. That it is.
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>>48881524
>I discovered Saurfang in Northrend, he was pretty based.
I feel sad you didn't get to meet him at the opening of AQ anon

>I am Saurfang. Brother of Broxigar. You know me to be the Supreme Commander of the Might of Kalimdor. An orc - a true orc warrior - wishes for one thing: To die in the glory of battle against a hated enemy. Some of you have fought in battles. Peace has been with us for many years. Many years we sat idle but many years we battled. In those years - where strife the land and Legion and Scourge sacked our homes, killed our families - these insects dwelled beneath us. Beneath our homes - waiting. Waiting to crush the life from our little ones. To slay all in their path. This they do for their god. And for our gods? We defend. We stand. We show that as one. United. We destroy. Their god will fall. To die today, on this field of battle, is to die an orcish death. To die today is to die for our little ones. Our old ones. Our… loved ones. Would any of you deny yourselves such a death? Such an honor?
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>>48881569
Isn't Silithus still filled with qiraji and Twillight cultists?
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>>48881551
That was the island of Farahlon, that apparently drifted closer to the main continent after the explosion. It's not at all firmly attached.
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>>48881618
Considering Netherstorm is a bunch of islands held together with giant chain-bridges and pure magic...
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>>48881595
Yup, the pre-raid event was the entire server gathering and turning in mats to Org/SW (cloth/ore/etc) until we had enough for an army. Then once someone had also completed a scepter you could ring the gong, and open the raids, but when the gate opened you also had at least 6 hrs, and upwards of 15 on some servers of invasions by the qiraji into Silithus complete with 1 time world raid bosses, turnins that netted massive rep for the time (one was like 1500 Booty Bay) and the server crashing every 5 minutes because everyone was in one zone at the same time. It was basically a stress test they didn't learn their lesson on, made the same mistake a year later with Hellfire, and the fact it had some great rewards that were likely gone because you were asleep at 4am while the event was still going on was shitty. Still maybe the best world event they've ever done, and people ask all the time for more similar to it, but the closest we've gotten is stuff like battlefield barrens, or the current invasions.
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>>48881664
I liked the WotLK event. Unity in undeath to raid the living, fun stuff
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>>48881683
These Legion invasions have been pretty fun, imo. And running around cities as dreadlords has been a blast. But the Broken Shore was a bit boring. But to balance it out, the DH starter zone is fantastic. I loved Mardum, and the Vault of the Wardens was a work of art. Then again, I just like Wardens. Stilk, I can't wait to play the dungeon there.
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>>48881683
Yeah I did enjoy seeing Shatt a mess on my servers with all the ghouls and dead bodies.

>>48881713
They have been, and very lucrative (both gold and xp on alts) but part of me does wish they'd limit some of the CRZ on it to connected servers only, give back a sense of local community (I really wish they'd do it for LFG/LFR but that shit isn't ever gonna happen).
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Only tangentially topical, is WoW a game that's still worth getting into?

How bad is the grind compared to Diablo 3?
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>>48881664
5.2 (Isle of Thunder) has something similar. The patch was launched with only a few areas of a huge island available to players. As time passed and players did dailies/pvped/did the quests, parts of the IoT were unlocked through server-wide efforts.
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>>48881770
Legion seems like one of the best expansions yet, and the grind is constantly lessened
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>>48881776
Same as the Isle of Quel'Danas more like. The AQ gates didn't open until all of the supplies were added up.
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>>48870677
>Holy pally
Well, combat healing is not great and I doubt my gear will suddenly change or allow me to respec as ret. But I guess having a cost free, mass true res with no CD and only a 2 round cast is pretty baller.
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>>48881780

Final shitpost before I let you guys continue talking lore - Can I make the huge, Blizzard staple pauldrons on an armor set seem invisible on my character like I can in D3?
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>>48881805
Yes, they just added that option. A lot of the oldest sets were designed with the pauldrons in mind, so the chest piece is rather bland at the shoulders. Plus if you're gonna play a paladin, you're going to get weird looks if you don't have the pauldrons of some sets.
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>>48881805
Yes
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>>48881770
I'd say yes, as long as you don't decide to play any of the classes/specs that were fucked up by the devs (like, say, ret paladins, that went from having 4 skills just for Holy Power generation to having 4 rotational skills, period. The devs dumbed and pruned it so much that you can literally play ret at a decent level with a castsequence macro). I got into the beta quite late, but tested it a fair share and what I saw was encouraging, unlike WoD.

>>48881805
All shoulder, head and back pieces can be made invisible at the transmog npc.
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>>48881828
>Not wearing the shoulders
HERESY
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>>48881805
Thanks to Legion yes you can, I hide pauldrons on almost all my characters
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>>48881828
>>48881834
Looks like I won't be picking up Runegrind again any time soon

Maybe it's for the better
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>>48881849
Man, so many yearsand I still love this one.

I'm so happy the T19/Highlord one is going to look a bit like Judgement.
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>>48881849
>>48881879
I prefer the purple BC one, but that's because I hated BWL too much. For now, I'm rocking T6, but I wish it had some form of update. Most of the set feels to plain, and I never found a matching sword aside from Quel'Delar.
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>>48881565
Her intensity and violence is so attractive.
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>>48877689
The art looks fucking beautiful I can say that much.
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>>48881879
T19 is bloody gorgeous. It looks like what would happen if Judgment and Aegis Battlegear got kinky in void storage and had a child.
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>Death Knight/Paladin t19.

My dick.
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>>48881297
Want to talk about unfair weapons, god damn unholy DK.

I am not sure if they model viewer on wowhead just makes it look weird, or if it really is as short and squatty as it seems to be. Either way it looks like ass.

And not one of the skins of the corrupt Ashbringer. Sure pally get that but it's also the more 'epic' edgy corrupt AB. I really liked the simple design damnit
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>>48879111
What the hell are you talking about, survival is one of the best specs in the game right now with all the DoT juggling. There is almost 0 downtime unlike BM or MM.
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>>48882157
I liked the dot aspect of the ranged version, call me crazy.
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>>48882157

Not to mention all the snares, slows and pure damage potential.

Survival is disgusting and I love it.
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>>48872223

Switched to Surv for it and am having the time of my life. Harpooning pit lords is the greatest. On the other hand, my Pally feels even more boring.
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How hard is it to mine the firehawk from Ragnaros? How many runs do you think I'll need to do?
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looking for another class to alt : which one is more fun gamesplay & more wise ?

Shadow Priest or Combat Rogue ?
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>>48882425
Combat Rogue. Pirate all day erry day.
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>>48882425
>Shadow Priest
>fun
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>>48882425
Everyone I've heard talk about outlaw rogues call them the funnest shit they've played.
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>>48882334
RNG is RNG, Anon. You can get it on your first try, you can spend years killing Ragnaros on multiple alts every week without ever seeing it.

For instance, last year I managed to get both Ashes of A'lar and Invincible within a month of each other. But I have never seen certain transmog items drop (Mostly some weapons from WoD dungeons) for me, even though they have a much higher drop chance compared to 0.01% mounts.

>>48882425
Never played combat, but Spriest is fun and busy as hell, especially when you go into voidform and try to stay in it as much as possible.
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>>48881664

It was one of my favorite times, less for the event itself, but the build up to it. Every server put everything into it, and it was a long term thing anyone any level could contribute to. And as it slowly got closer, you'd see more and more war machines, soldiers, etc showing up.
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>>48881849
I still need to finish my Judgment set. One of the best looking armor sets in the game, with just the right amount of flare. Stylized without being ridiculously overblown.

There's also the Judgement Uther skin in HotS that I have my eye on.
>Uther surviving his fight with Arthas and makes it his life mission to crush the skull of the traitor prince.
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>>48882729
Uther is based.

Since Blizzard has a boner for reviving dead characters, why not revive him for pally quest line ? He's the perfect pally.
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>>48882155
I think they decided to not use Corrupted Ashbringer out of respect for players who got it before old Naxx was removed. Kind of like how you can't transmog Vanilla pvp gear unless you had the appropriate title.
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>>48882729
> Judgement Uther
>Uther surviving his fight with Arthas and makes it his life mission to crush the skull of the traitor prince.

>I should've killed you after what you did in Stratholme, and that's just the start...boy.
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>>48882745
Why not replace Darion with Uther as the fourth horseman?
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>>48882753
I am so jelly of those with old CAS.
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>>48882498
>he hasn't surrendered to madness
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>>48882425
Both of my alts on those are kind of stagnating in my rush to finish WoD before Legion, but I can say Spriest is fun as hell thematically as well as gameplay wise.
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>>48882849
They tried for Tirion, too well protected, I'm betting Uther's grave woulda been equally hard to fight on for the scourge.
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>>48882849
Aimed for Tirion, failed, Darion sacrificed self. Bolvar decided that Darion earned the spot.
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>>48881488
Oh King.
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>>48881204
That was old troll lore now a days titans came to azeroth before trolls
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>>48882883
Last time i played it, i had more fun as disc. This was....during Cata, i think
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>>48883887

So were there metal trolls before the curse of flesh?
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>>48884123
No, Trolls are still true natives to Azeroth but they were slaves to the Old Gods Black Empire iirc.

They had a dope ass empire too, well before the Night Elves came along and wrecked them.
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>>48881390
>>48881428
>>48881448
So while Illidan was bleeding out in the snow in Northrend shortly after Arthas dawned the crown of the Lich King he came back out to fuck Illidan?
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>>48884180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
Still a great trailer
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>>48884006
>Herp derp I have no idea what it plays like 2 and a half expansions later
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>>48884238
BC hurt so much as a WC2 vet having to kill all our former heroes of the horde, but there was no way for Zul'jin to fit in, too much elf hate. Still pissed they removed him for the ZA redux, there was no real need to change the bosses around in ZA/ZG and the lore is hurt more by adding unknowns.
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>>48884293
Eh
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>>48884401
It's just best to not fucking comment if you have no idea.
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>>48884238
>everyone cool is dead by our hands
>still no ogres or forest trolls in the Horde
This is bullshit. Speaking as someone who plays belves and undead, they really should have all fucked off and joined Illidan.
Hell, that would give Sylvanas a convenient excuse to not turn the Horde into her own Forsaken Half-time Warcrime Atrocity Extravaganza
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>>48883532
>>48883479
Well yeah, but Uther's grave is just sitting in an unprotected graveyard. The Blood Knights defiled it in BC, the Ebon blade should be able to do a smash and grab.
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>>48884458
There are ogres and forest trolls in the horde

Just not playable ones :^)
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>>48884472

I think the Alliance and now the Blood Elves would be pretty mad if the Ebon Blade stole Uther's corpse.
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>>48884238
>>48884180
>>48884458
>tfw Zul'jin never joined Thrall's Horde
>Zul'jin will never be the leader that wants to whip the Horde back into shape
>Zul'jin will never be the one to make Trolls great
>Zul'jin won't be the war mongering leader that becomes a traitor to the Horde
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>>48884458
Aye, the game should be Red vs Blue vs Green with Green being Blood Elves, Forsaken, maybe Broken Draenei or Naga or Worgen or something.
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>>48884123
Considering trolls evolve in a rather unique way (arcane+trolls=elves,shadow+troll= dire troll, nature+troll= forest troll and so on) I woulden't put it past trolls to have been a non flesh species(pre troll retcon tho)
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>>48882498
>>48884006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M71CKqykyyM
Guy's kind of annoying but he covers the basics in the first couple minutes
You build stacks of Insanity now and get a SSJ2 Shadow Form now, which activates when you hit 100, letting you do cool shit.
It drains more the longer it's active, so you have to struggle to keep it running.
One of the final talents you can pick is Surrender to Madness, which cranks up your Insanity production up through the power of the Old Gods, but as soon as you leave Voidform you die. Horribly.
Haven't gotten a chance to try it yet, but it looks pretty fun.

I definitely want to hear how they're going to explain being on the Good Guy team despite being powered by literal Double-Satans.
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>>48884736
Where are the rest of his abilities? Why are his 2 bars not even full?
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>>48884736
>gain power overwhelming
>die horribly

Yes, and?
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>>48884833
>Anon doesn't know

Legion reworked alot of the classes and their specs. Alot of the classes had alot of their abilities and passives removed, reworked or combined. There were a few that got new spells but most of them are "class fantasy" abilities.
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>>48884736
It would be neat if the dying horribly was anything other then fluffy text. Some unique animation around your death and maybe not being able to be brez'd would be cool.
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>>48884736
>I definitely want to hear how they're going to explain being on the Good Guy team despite being powered by literal Double-Satans.

Because it turns out the old gods were the good guys all along and just got a little missunderstood because of their awesome power. They were really just trying to prepare us to fight the new TRIPLE-satans!

Oldgoddie new hero class next expansion.
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>>48884736
Even Sargeras trembles before the Old Gods.

Wield their power. Break the Legion. Your true masters fight to protect their investment.
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>>48884836
>your artifact even gives you a power to channel UNLIIIIMITED POWAAAAH in void form, which prevents your insanity from being drained while it's active, letting you concentrate all of your energy into a final attack before you die
Yes hello, blizzard? My class fantasy was always being a JRPG final boss.
Man, I wish Demo warlocks got shit this fly.

>>48884940
>implying the Light isn't going to be the real bad guy
>implying Sargeras did anything wrong to begin with
The windchimes man, I'm telling you
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>>48885002
>the Light being the real bad guy
>not the Titans

Come on, anon.
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What are some non-edgy brooding ideas for a demon hunter that don't feel contrarian? Would something inspired by a Judas Priest album cover work, or something like Uncle Dante?
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>>48884544
>Slyvy, Saurfang, Baine running the show
>no green Jesus anywhere
>most frequent belf encountered is a priestess who said fuck it I'm done with this staff gimme a sword
Pretty sure we don't need to be whipped into shape; especially if you put Rokhan in as the new leader of the Darkspear
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>>48884940
Old Gods are the level of management below triple Satans, the voidlords
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>>48885128
Sargeras is Lucifer
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>>48881012
Pretty much all population numbers in Warcraft have been deemed non-canon because of how dubious they are.
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>>48885028
>last patch for the expansion is Legion: The Burninating
>as you fell Sargeras, he warns you "You fools, we were the only force keeping the Void in check!" and then dies anticlimactically
>next expansion is World of Warcraft: Oblivion
>beat off all the old gods and void lords
>"Don't you see? the Titans were the true threat all along!"
>Pillars of Doom has you hunt down the Titan's ghosts all across the cosmos and murder them for loot
>World of Warcraft the Final: Sunset has the Naaru sacrifice themselves to reform the Light into the mono-theistic God that the Brotherhood of Northshire believed in
>you have to beat off the Army of Light, and save the world from goodness and hope and light
>it all culminates in the simultaneous launch of World of Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 4: 1: Humans and Orcs
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>>48885059
Be the painkiller bruh
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>>48885505
>beat off all the old gods and void lords
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>>48885748
As a title or last name? I got to be more rad than a bat out of hell. It's a shame Demon Hunters can't use 2H axes, otherwise I'd use the Arcanite Ripper.
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>>48885778
>>48885778
>>48885778
>>48885778

New thread.
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>>48885748
>>48885781
Well, Painkiller is a name for the wc3 DHs so...
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>>48885802
Holy hell, I forgot about that. Time to get metal as hell.
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>>48885059
>Night elf
Not very bright and rather a fan of druidic herbal supplements, didn't lose anyone to the war of the ancients but mom wanted you out of the treehouse and all the cool kids were becoming demon hunters so you kinda succumbed to peer pressure. Got the tats, did the eye thing (ouch) and kinda got wrapped up in the moment then all of a sudden you're in mardum living it up with your buds and the next thing you know illidan is dead, you're breaking out of jail and forced to pick between your two best buds and this funny looking human dude is telling you he needs your help saving other human dudes from evil demon dudes
Dude, life is, like, weird
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>>48885920
>blood elf

I'm thinking replacing druidic herbal supplements with bloodthistle will do. And say his folks were high elves that didn't get into the whole mana draining thing that Kael advocated. Samwise already described blood elves as rock stars of WoW, so this should be easy. Your overall idea is exactly what I'm thinking.
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