Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1023: Give Sol Invictus the Descartes Edition

Jumpers, what jumps are intentionally saving for later, and why?

>>48812109
I deliberately saved Worm for late enough that I could make Scion eat his hair.

>>48812109
I'm saving Gundam SEED for late in the chain so that I can use a retained fanfic drawback to go to a specific fanfic I love/hate and mess with the OCs.

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Tell me about your sense of fashion, /jc/. Do you even still wear clothes?

>>48812340
I usually wear clothing to blend in with the setting, I've never cultivated a consistent style.

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>>48812365
>Not imposing your own clothing style

>>48812145
>not genociding the Entities

>>48812109
I saving Fate for the moment so I could mentally and physically destroy Gilgamesh.

>>48812340
I like to wear black and red, lots of leather and trenchcoats and stuff. It's part of this self-parody thing where I embrace the edgy OC fanfic-ness.

>>48812416
Too lazy.

>>48812109
Anyone else has this problem where they keep postponing lots of jumps, because you think you can get more out of them if you find specific combinations of perks?

>>48812340
I like to strut around completely naked. It's not like anyone's going to stop me.

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Back just in time for the new thread. Glorious. I shall repost this then.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajCSt1IwBTvKehm_n68GtdZEHE9Plu6Yxi18GptV9P4/edit?usp=sharing

The above link and attached PDF are both for the WIP for The Fifth Element Jump, though the PDF is missing a few things I've updated in Google Docs since posting it the first time.

I am going to be working on fluff and Drawbacks, but feel free to comment here or on the G.Doc by using the Comment button in the upper left hand corner. I'll be paying attention to both.

I'm still stumped on the Drop-In 400 CP perk, so suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Props to Annette for suggesting what turned out to be an awesome Priest 400 CP perk.

>>48811014
Thanks for your support. I always do my best to capture the feel of a setting and it's nice to hear praise for such.

Yes, you do still get the dual-layered voice if you want it. I've made a note to that effect. Thank you for pointing out that Drawback. I plan to completely rewrite it while I write the Drawback's fluff.

>>48812109
F,E,A,R. due to a personal and irrational paranoia of Alma. Adventure Time and Zootopia are being saved for a semi-vacation Jump after I survive something that really should have killed me. Oh, and Warhammer 40K The Imperium is being saved until absolutely last as my End Jump.

>>48812340
I actually have a pretty good sense of fashion after I ran a clothing boutique for several years in Kill La Kill. I like to dress to blend in, usually in something I've layered several levels of enchantments on. A necklace and rings are pretty much mandatory for me. If I put on my cloak, then you know something has gone wrong.

>>48812484
I have the reverse problem. I want to rush Jump B, because it gives something awesome in Jump A but then Jump C gives something awesome if I take it to Jump B, and and so on and so forth until I just give up and do a rolling Chain.

So, what are the big threats to look out for in Person of Interest? I believe I recall someone mentioning an evil supercomputer, but is there anything else?

>>48812109
Technically Speaking, I'm waiting for an Exalted Heroic Mortal jump before I do any of the Exalted jumps at all. Just because I want to do them all in a row, and it just seems more fitting to start with a steady power escalation, from low powered to high powered.

>>48812497
Glad to help.

>>48812586
>Exalted Heroic Mortal
Has anyone even claimed that yet? You're waiting for something that may potentially never happen.

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>>48812492

Are there any perks that specifically allow you to control someone's future fate? Like placing geas or engineering a Manchurian Candidate plot?

Also, what are the best Just As Planned perks?

>>48812109
I'm saving One punch man for the moment my (currently 540km tall) Dungeon can be a challenge for him.
I /could/ cheat by using the effect tablet to delevel him but that'd be cheating
>>48812340
I wear black and purple dresses most of the time, but I used to wear a huge brown duster and scarf for most of my chain after the huye breakdown in Worm.

>>48812529
Yes, evil government.

It's not like the computer can do anything besides social engineering.

Just nuke the planet and call it a day.

>>48812674
>Just nuke the planet and call it a day.
Ah, the eternal solution for when Jumper is feeling lazy.

>>48812653
Fate 5 from Mage: the Awakening does exactly this.

>>48812674
>Just nuke the planet.
Amen fellow jumper

Jumpers, when has a plan of yours gone too well, or gone horribly right?

>>48812720
Cupcake didn't get prepared correctly? Nuke the planet.

Someone didn't compliment your hair? Nuke the planet.

Lost your parking space? Nuke the planet.

Got rejected for the high school prom?

>>48812724
B...but MtAW is worthless!

>>48812653
Once Upon a Time. Take the planning perk, the precognition perk, then the capstone booster/magic.

You can pull some Shounen villain Mary-Sue level Keikaku bullshit.

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>>48812109
Basically something like this guy.

>>48812641
Yeah. I don't like really care though, seeing as that's basically the epilogue of my chain.

>>48812720
I prefer cluster-bombing the planet with GECKs.

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>>48812775
>Got rejected for the high school prom?

>>48812780
Oops meant for
>>48812340

>>48812776
Yeah. And? That it has what you're looking for isn't mutually exclusive to the jump being a piece of trash.

>>48812760
never

In Star Wars: Original Trilogy, do I take the force sensitive background along with one of the others (Minus droid) if I want to take force powers? The name 'bonus history' kinda implies that, but I wanted to check.

>>48812674
I prefer to use my GBE barrage from my Light of Terra to shatter planets that piss me off
my Engineers hate me because they had to refit the ship to handle the recoil from all those FUCK YOUs

>>48812993
Yes.

>>48812674
Yeah, this would probably be a good idea, except my current chain has all of four builds to it's name. Including Person of Interest. None of them have given me the opportunity to grab a nuke.

Hmm. I suppose if I was pressed I could use Lugia to nuke it or something.

Perks that let you mash together altforms, go.

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>>48806912
>Posting this again from a few threads ago since the only answer I got wasn't from the jumpmaker.
>For Incredibles, since Wardrobe makes upgrades shared across all of your suits would importing multiple outfits as suits spread their properties across both each other and any other suits Wardrobe provides?
Sorry, managed to overlook this for a good while. Been busy lately.

Importing multiple outfits wouldn't spread their already existing properties across each other and other suits provided by Wardrobe. Any upgrades added after afterwards, to any of them, could be spread to all of them though.

>>48812674
>>48813018
Also, aren't the super computers capable of modifying their own code? The bad one could pretty easily go all Skynet.

>>48812340
>Tell me about your sense of fashion
I just wear normal t-shirt and jeans. Or shorts, if it's hot. I'm not fancy.

>Do you even still wear clothes?
Yes. Pockets are essential for holding stuff.
It's not too big a hassle to acquire clothing, but if I'm short on time or something I can just shapeshift my flesh to look like clothing.

>>48813070
Incredibles Anon, would it be possible to stop the whole heroes going underground thing if you take the Good Old Days? I mean, I have to imagine a supervillain tearing the place apart with no one to stand in their way would get that thing repealed real quick.

>>48813060
This is in fact my Final Form, SAO
that's all you need

>>48812497
>Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the jump, I didn't realize how much I wanted this until I had it.

>>48813070
If one of your companions bought the Edna Complex, and you used one of the Companion Complex supplements that gave all your companions their own rooms, can the companion add and/or replace the Edna Complex to/with their Companion Complex room?

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>>48812340
Finding clothes that fit your preferred altforms is hard when said altform has spikes in several places.

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>>48813148
Yes, of course that's possible. The Glory Days drawback just starts you earlier, you do whatever you want from there.

>>48813262
I don't know much at all about the Companion Complex supplement to be honest. I looked at, found it meh, and proceeded to forget it existed for a few months.

But that sounds fine to me. You'd probably add it, unless you really want to replace the room with it for some reason.

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What's your favorite kind of crafting, Jumpers?

>>48813311
Does self-immolation provide any resistance to fires that aren't yours?

>>48813327
Spellcrafting.

>>48813327
Metalworking. Probably just because my job has me doing a fair bit of it, but I absolutely love lathing and milling.

>>48813327
Song Science. Singing things into existence is just too fucking mythic not to do it.

>>48813327
electrical stuff, I love fucking around with circuit boards and having a Tinker help me out with stuff only makes it more fun

>>48813331
Somewhat, yeah. As long as you're on fire, you won't really be bothered by fire/heat as intense or lesser compared to your own.

So most 'normal' fires aren't much of a problem. But you'd still be in danger of geting burned by significantly hotter fires and stuff.

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>>48813327
AI crafting. I grew to love it way back in FTL and Ar Tonelico only reinforced it. I just love the idea of slowly teasing consciousness into being with strings of code.

I would give second place to Enchantment Weaving, but DC is so much better at it than I am I usually let her take care of it.

>>48813327
Punch card alchemy.
Though I still need to reconcile the canon option being an endgame jump. Not quite sure why it is one.

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Sorry for clogging up the thread as much as I am with these WIPs, but here's the next version of the WWE jump. I added some undiscounted perks to make you actually good at wrestling, and revised some perks that people disliked.

Feedback, as always, is welcomed.

>>48813437
So the resistance only kicks in while you're on fire? Can you use other fire abilities you have to set yourself on fire? Like could I use fire bending, photokinesis, Lichfire (Adventure Time), etc.?

>>48813327
Black/sword smithing
Also, tattoos.

>>48813497
DC?

>>48813658
Delicious Cock.

>>48813523

I think the part where two universes are no-shit obliterated(completely), there's a bad dude who is more or less conceptually unkillable due to the paradox mechanics involved with his creations, etc etc
I can see why, kinda, since even while the bad guy was "defeated' you can't find anyone who's capable of actually explaining how it was done anywhere without it going into conspiracy theories or meta shit

>>48813681
...so why don't we get any of that without locking us into endmodes that are worthless?

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>>48813658
My Jolteon from back in Pokemon. DC as in Direct Current electricity, her name. She's stuck around all these years and has delved deep into the Arcane Arts from across the multiverse. So she's much better at it than I am.

Can robots and AIs get Stands?
Strongly considering scratching Dragon with the Arrow when I get to Worm.

>>48813630
John Cena perk needs to die.

>>48813748
>worthless
Oh, it's you. Go away.

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>>48813643
Yes, only while you're on fire.

You'd need to find a way to combine it with other fire abilities yourself. You could firebend the fire you make with Self-Combustion, control the light it gives off with photokinesis, but you'd need to find some way to replace normal fire with Lichfire on your own to do so.

>>48813748
Because it's a Sburb jump. Not a Homestuck jump. Normal Sburb sessions don't get that shit, so its inclusion would make little sense.

Also, it would make the jump an utter horror to balance.

>>48813817
Eh, I'm not getting as much of a consensus on that one as I was on many other things that I removed or nerfed, so I think it'll stay. It's been toned down since its first appearance, and I made the language around it more clear. If you have any ideas to tone it down further, I'll think about them.

Anything else? Still hunting for ideas for equipment to round out the items for heel and face...

>>48813813
Trees and streets can get Stands. The real issue is figuring out how to scratch her with the Arrow, as well as figuring out something that works as a power for her.

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>>48813327
>tfw not actually good at making anything

A-at least I can burn things, right?

>>48813855
>Normal Sburb sessions don't get that shit, so its inclusion would make little sense
So we're getting jipped, then.

>>48813858
If you're going to weaken it further, you might as well replace it. It's already pretty crappy compared to the other capstones.

>>48813858
It just amuses me that it took you this long to put wrestling perks in your wrestling jump. Honestly, I think you need to drop the meme jump and start over.

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I made a terrible mistake.

I took the Claude drawback in Sunrider, figuring if I could handle Q several times and 1v1 Zion, I could handle her.

I was wrong. Worst part? She's tag-teaming with the benefactor to keep me "interesting". With increasingly twisted ways to show "affection".

At least it's not the moon this time.

>>48813327
psychohistory and blacksmithing.
>>48813813

>>48813940
Hey, at least you got a waifu out of it.

>>48813327
Talecrafting.

>>48813748
>>48813914
Anon, if it'll make you feel better I'll make a U WIN jump just for you. It'll be a text file so you can jump it, and it'll have one perk titled: U WIN. It'll let you win at everything, so it'll be super not worthless and you'll never have to worry about being worthless.

Would that make you feel better?

>>48813933
Having an "I win" card to deploy against any enemy isn't that weak tbqh family. And I didn't say I was going to weaken it, just that I was going to consider any suggestions.

>>48813935
Thanks for your input. I'll give due weight to your suggestion.

>>48813940
>getting Eiffel Towered by Claude and Jump-Chan
not sure if hot or horrifying

>>48812760
Let's see...
Horribly wrong:
>Worm: Fighting the Endbringers using a Walpurgisnatch from Madoka as a mecha.
>40k: Eldrazi and Tyranid fusion.
>Naruto: Nuking orochimaru. With the Blazblue boundary.
...in hindsight, i might be the bad guy in my chain.

>>48813681
>there's a bad dude who is more or less conceptually unkillable due to the paradox mechanics involved with his creations, etc etc
English kind of lost all credibility as an unstoppable villain when he got affected by time stop despite being the guy who lords over time itself. Also, apparently cueball weapons can damage him anyway, and that immortality really doesn't mean shit because the Condesce died despite having it?
The gigapause was a mistake is what I'm saying.

>>48813976
See >>48814033, it's not an instant win and things can hurt him anyway. So why we're being barred from doing things on a Red-level scale just doesn't make sense when it's proved he's not as big and powerful as he's wanked to be.

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>>48813966
I ALREADY HAD ONE
>>48813999
I took Everything Gets Worse. I took You Made Her Cry. I took Broken Faith.

This is undoubtedly the worst one, not helped by the fact my ADD and possibly insane benefactor now has a watch buddy.

Help.

>>48813935
Seconded. This looks like a Best of 2016 WWE memes Jump. The WWE has been around in some form of another since the 50s, you could do a hell of a lot better than this.

>>48812760
>>gone wrong
1.the Yo-Yo incident
2. "hey if The Zeds have Regeneration and self molecular manipulation that will fix their damage and they will be Normal people again!"
3.taking Apokolips Now

>> went right
1.being a rather lazy sense of fear In Inside out so that the kid With All Of my powers is really Shonen
2.The multistage plan to actually kill darkseid
3.my proposal In PMD

>>48813327

Robotics.

I'll have to go to Disney one day for proper musical accompaniment.

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>>48814174
Heavens, you must sleep in the bed you have made.

Of course, now you've got me wondering who else you could "add" to the Benefactor's couch over the Jumps.

And now the Friends theme is running through my head. What have you done?

>>48814101
>Red-level scale

And here we have it have it folks - the fuck reveals his trump card far too early.

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>>48814101
for u

>>48814101
I think the entire reason it's marked as endgame is because it lifts the restriction that makes you unable to grab the house artifact or First Guardian powers, or both. If that was still there (maybe not the First Guardian thing since omnipotence isn't actually that potent in the setting, and you lose it at the end anyway, or do you, I mean you should since the Green Sun's dead, right? Either way the retcon artifact kind of makes you truly unstoppable once mastered) it'd be fine as just a drawback.

>>48814183
Well, anon, I added the Bathrobe of DOOM and "IT WAS ME AUSTIN" to reflect the greater power storyline, I added "the Jumpster" to reflect the Hulkster motorcycle, "Hey vince, that's you're money!" and the 600 CP drawback were all from the Trump takeover bit, and Nearly all of the heel perks were inspired from by the rock from the attitude era. Naturally, I'm gonna have a lot of stuff from where the WWE is right now, because that's the most well-known stuff. Most of the stuff from the 50s just isn't that well-known.

I think I've got a good spread, but if you have any ideas beyond "scrap the whole thing", I'd genuinely love to hear them.

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>>48814174
>>48813940
>>48813999

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>>48811974

1.1 here.

I added scrolls, and put links and a bit of info in the notes section to tidy things up.

>>48814300
>if you have any ideas beyond "scrap the whole thing", I'd genuinely love to hear them
De-meme and rebuild it from the ground up.

>>48814306
You know what Eiffel Towering is. You're diiiiiiiiiiirty, diiirtyyyyyyyyyyyy.

>>48814331
Your definition of meme could be very different from mine, anon. What exactly is too memey for you?

>>48814225
I really hope you didn't mean to post that picture
because dat's lewd

>>48814295
And locking it behind that kind of restriction is wrong. It as stupid as the idea of locking us from multiple Exaltations or locking us from the true Eyes of the World. It's in a setting, we should be able to get it.

This rash of "no too OP" that certain jumpmakers seem to love pushing on us is stupid and needs to be changed.

>>48814226
Maybe Red is a character in the comic?

>>48814295
>and you lose it at the end anyway, or do you, I mean you should since the Green Sun's dead, right?
Jump fiat. It has never worked like that, you never screw jumpers over like that.

>>48814376
Wukong is removing the lock on multiple Exaltations. I kind of agree on the Eyes of the World, considering the two people who you need to take it from are buff as shit.

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>>48814361
Well, yes, I had meant to post this picture instead. Still, it's not /that/ lewd. Everything's covered, though Alphys does have a very dirty mind.

I can't be the only one to use Evard's Black Tentacles in the bedroom.

>>48814358
John Cena can beat anything in the multiverse. Wrestlers are world sundering heroes. Nothing can defeat wrestler X.

>>48814390
If you didn't pay for it with CP, it relies on an outside power source, and that power source doesn't exist in other worlds, there is no reason it should work.

>>48814264
This makes me think there should be a Charlie Sheen Gauntlet. You are Charlie Sheen. You have no powers and you have to survive being Charlie Sheen. The perks you could buy from points you get from taking drawbacks would be having Winning, Having tiger blood and being a warlock.

>>48814405
And it was wrong of the jumpmaker to put us at so low of a level that we couldn't take it from those two people, on top of putting in that restriction. It's interjump balance and the jumpmaker was WRONG to do it.

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>>48814425
Okay, so that's one meme. And as far as capstones go, "Once per jump, I delay our fight by one week" seemed okay to me.

Still, if that's the only meme in the jump, I don't think that your concerns are too bad, and there are definitely worse offenders. Any more memes that you'd think should be gone?

>>48814436
Nope. It has never worked like that. You get it, it starts working no matter what via fiat. Forcing us to only use CP choices is absolutely stupid as there's no motivation to be creative anymore.

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>>48814412
Draenei form + DC shapeshifting + omega level molecular control + imaginos body + alpha level biokinesis = all of the naughty fun lewd. ALL OF IT.
Math is fundamental.

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>>48814354
I had to look it up.

Thanks to poorly worded ending text and silly buggery with psykic powers, I find myself in charge of the Light of Terra with my erstwhile companion, Cultist-chan. Where to next, /tg/?

>>48814436
For the record, you are correct and I fully support what you're saying. However, you're arguing with someone who is shitposting and, as such, you'll never win.

>>48814450
Hey, I was just responding to a "what do you use for crafting?" question and then realized my chain was flawed as fuck, and then tried to figure out how I could reconcile it while also reaching my end-goal of fixing Act 6 and finding the epilogue. I don't know what happened.

>>48814358
Stick to things which actually happened in the WWE or its predecessors, rather than the Internet shit. Ham it up rather than magicking it up. If you have to embellish it with supernatural shit, then draw inspiration from things like the Undertaker getting sealed in a coffin and his spirit rising to take vengeance.

>>48814476
That's kind of like saying if you turn into a Kryptonian using morphing , the need for Yellow Sunlight is removed via Jumpchain fiat.

>>48814516
Tenchi. Let his harem and the Chousin learn the wonders of CC and the LoT.

>>48814517
Alright then. Go ahead, try to tell someone that their Naruto Life Gems stop working out of the setting, or that technology they harvested stops working because "different physics", or that learned spells fizzle out because you didn't use cp to buy them.

Go ahead. I'll wait and laugh at the reactions you get.

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So, I was gone for a bit. Somewhat suprised by all the Exalted talk last thread, didn't expect it to spill over. Probably should've asked this then, but since I missed it, I guess I'll do so now.

Infernals. Their Charms are a lot more dependant on Essence scores than other types of Exalts. As such, capping them at 5 doesn't feel good to me. Not to mention that'd block off Devil-Tiger, which is cool.

On the other hand, an Essence 10 Infernal would pretty much have Primordial-tier free reign to fuck around with reality, but with pretty much no canon Charm support.


So, instead, I propose banning making your own Essence 6+ custom Charms, meaning you can go to 10 and get more motes while the lower essence charms can get their extra dice from high Essence.

Because Infernals don't really get that much in the way of Essence 6+ charms (unlike Solars), and of the elder-essence charms they do get only two seem actually problematic for the chain. (Well, them, and the Charms build off them.)


[Yozi] Eternal Essence. Which makes them unkillable, unless the attack on them is supported by effects that can permanently kill spirits. I'm not sure if that should be banned. My gut says ban, but I am not sure how common "effects that can permanently kill spirits" would even be.

...and [Yozi] Cosmic Principle. Which removes their Exaltation, human soul, and all but one Yozi's Charms. The first step to becoming a Yozi/Primordial clone. Which is less a concern on it being too powerful, and more... well. You're becoming a monomaniacal being that lacks the ability to even conceive anything outside of their theme. You're essentially overwriting your very existence with the specific Yozi/Primordial's.


So, anyway, that's my thoughts. No Essence 6+ customs, maybe no Eternal Essence depending on what kind of responce I get to that, and... should I even ban the clone path? Considering that it's worst idea and fucks you over from the very first Charm?

>>48814528
Yeah, I tried to base the Jumpertaker off of the undertaker's fluff of being a servant of satan. The "sealed in a coffin" thing does give me an idea for Heel items, though. The Bathrobe of doom bit came from the higher power storyline, and I thought it fit.

Anything else?

>>48814436
Were the Eyes dependent on in setting metaphysics? I thought that was the infinity gems.

question if I have a ai form running on dictated hardware the hardware counts as part of The form right?

>>48814549
Yes, that is precisely how it works. Vampire weaknesses are removed post-jump, why wouldn't it be the same for anything else? Forcing drawbacks post-jump is the same as nerfing, which is wrong. Something tells me you've been hanging out with Red too much, which makes me even more glad she's gone since she won't have to force jumpmakers into this shitty attitude anymore.

>>48814570
Didnt this get discussed two or three threads ago? And everyone was like, yeah, canon charms only after essence 7 or whatever?

>>48814577
Man, the infinity gem "ruling" was such horse shit.

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>>48814496
I approve of both the math and your inventiveness in the bedroom. I know what powers I'm buying for Alita next.

>>48814570
Letting us go above Essence 5 but not make Essence 6+ custom charms sounds reasonable. We can still do a pretty great Devil-Tiger custom charmset limited to Essence 5 charms. Hell, most Primordial charms are Essence 5 or lower, they just have expanded effects once you're at higher Essence.

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This fucker is going to keep screaming Red and nerf at every opportunity. When you see someone making a retarded ass claim, just ignore him. Even if he's responding to your post, ignore him.

>>48813987
Sorry if this is overstepping boundaries, but here:

When you're on the ropes and all hope seems lost, you'll find out you're not alone. Whether it's by humming a certain tune, calling on the courage of all americans, or spitting on the face of The Man even as he beats you down into the ground, you'll be able to summon one of the greatest heroes of the WWE from beyond time and space once per jump in order to put an enemy you can't defeat out of comission. They'll be at the top of their game, wrestling with such skill and ferocity that no opponent will be able to defeat them- but they won't finish them off. Your opponent will be out of it for one week in which neither of you will be able to affect each other, and you can bet any belts you might get this decade that they won't just sit on their thumbs once they're up and about again.

Doesn't really change anything mechanically beyond summoning wrestlers other than Cena, but people might be more amicable to the perk without the memes.

Anyway, I also had the idea to have two perk lines for each background (one for normal wrestling, one for blatantly supernatural fighting) with the drawback that just makes it all ordinary wrestling locking the latter lines, but all I really got going on that front is a Heel capstone that lets you send the souls of the heroic to hell in order to gain physical power and burn the souls of the innocent to fuel energy blasts and undead summons (like in the fighting games) courtesy of your boss from the DEEP south, and a Face capstone that lets you gain power from the belief the innocent hold in you. Those don't really seem to work with the setup you seem to be going for so iunno.

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>>48814625
Except it Is Canon

>>48814685
Jumpers trump settings, get it in your head. Do we have to have another argument like we did with Exalted?

Jumpers always fucking trump the setting. No ifs, ands, or buts.

>>48814625
It's canon that Infinity Gems don't work outside of their universe. You're shitposting.

>>48814674
What am I looking at, here? The thing in the upper right looks like a satellite, but everything else is incomprehensible. Like, it kind of looks like it's shooting electrical static down onto the Earth, maybe? Except if that's a coastline it's not one I recognize.

>>48814570
Sounds good to me. I don't really understand why people are so antsy about high essence stuff anyways, considering how long it takes to get there you'd be bullshit regardless with the sheer number of jumps you'd accrued. Not to mention bullshit abilities are more acceptable the longer it takes to achieve them.

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>>48814604
Man. I'm half-asleep at this point... I know its been talked about that, and people wanted that for Dragon-Blooded.

Not so sure on Infernals, so I thought I'd ask just to make sure.

>>48814667
That's what I thought too.

>>48814572
I just don't know what the point of trying to argue with you is. Give us Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage and Yokozuna, give us Wrestlemania, give us Kayfabe and unnecessary drama. Read Wikipedia, learn about the WWF and Titan Sports, and make a good Wrestling Jump. Not this.

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>>48814625
Why? It's canon in marvel that if you take the infinity gems outside of their own universe they are reduced to pretty paperweights. If you took the infinity gems from earth 616 to earth 2149, they would do nothing, and you might break them if you try to use them. It's also canon that if you use them to affect another universe that they might work but they will break being a one time usage.

>>48814702
>Jumpers always fucking trump the setting. No ifs, ands, or buts.

yeah Jumpers trump the setting,but Those rocks are not Jumpers.

>>48814702
And yet you complain about jumps when they don't represent the setting.

>>48814702
>Setting trumps the Jumper
FTFY.

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>>48814665
Though I think we play for different teams, I know we see eye to eye on plenty of issues. I thank you for your approval and wish you and Alita the best.

>>48814747
Wasn't that when another universe was about to collide with the 616-verse and Cap stopped it with the Infinity Gauntlet at the cost of all the gems except one being shattered?

>>48814496
Wait, where does being a Draenei come into this? It's not...it's not the fanart, is it?

>>48813145
>Yes. Pockets are essential for holding stuff.
>Not having your own hammerspace/inventory

>>48814711
>>48814747
It never matters if it's canon or not. We take them out of the setting, it should work for us. Things we take out of a setting work off of fiat, that is the one golden rule of Jumpchain that has never been broken. Red's jumps aren't special. They have never been special. It's a jumpmaker's job to enable jumpers, and barring content for petty reasons like "b-but muh setting" is wrong and stupid. It is wrong, and it needs to be corrected immediately.

>>48814758
>>48814761
The setting exists for jumpers to take, destroy, twist, change, or do whatever we want to them. When options are barred for petty snowflake reasons, that isn't representing the setting. When jumpers are forced to be below the MC, that isn't representing the setting. That is WRONG and bars us from content.

>>48814748
And jumpers are the ones who take them out of the setting, therefore they should work because a jumper has them. Do you know nothing about the chain?

>>48814679
No, that's good. You came forward with a suggestion that was well thought out, had good reasoning behind it, and were really chill about it.

You're right that that removes the memes and doesn't change things beyond that mechanically, but removing that does remove a bit of flavor, which is the whole point of flavor text. That being said, I'll strongly consider it.

And as for 2 capstones, one supernatural and one not? I was hoping to support mixed setups, so that people could have both. You did give me an idea on how to expand the jumpertaker, though, so thanks for that.

>>48814742
Alright, I'll look up Some items I could add for Savage, Yokozuna, and Kayfabe. Anything else?

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>>48812340
See: >>48812365
Because I'm a stealth jumper (read: a jumper who hides the truth that they are a jumper) I usually

stick with something that passes for normal.
Unless I just don't care, and am not doing stealth anymore.

That said, I like to wear lab coats whenever possible, because they make me look smart and make it

seem less weird when I start doing crazy science shiz. Because of course I know science -- I'm

wearing a lab coat! Duh!
I also usually have goggles as some form of accessory, for similar "they make me look techy"

reasons, but mostly because I think they look cool. I like goggles.
When labcoats aren't allowed, I usually wear a coat, jacket, or robes of some kind, depending on

the setting and occupation. Unless the weather's too hot.
I have also been known to wear really normal stuff. Like T-Shirts.

Of course, if I really don't care, then depending on what I'm doing that jump I either go with the

labcoat again, or if I'm doing the evil overlord thing sometimes I dress up like straight Sauron.

Or maybe Lord Dominator?
I did that in Mad Max.
I did a dance number on my bigass truck while it was flying down the desert, in full plate armour.

> Do you even still wear clothes?
Sometimes in my warehouse I don't. But that's more like a "I don't have anywhere to go today, so

I'm just gonna not wear pants" kinda thing.
Then again, sometimes I just wear the same thing five days in a row for that same reason.
Vera gets pissed off about it.

>>48814796
Yea time gem rather than shattering just fucked off to get it's own spin off for a bit.

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>>48814783
>that webm
>"morale"

So that's what they're calling it these days.

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>>48814742
>>48814818
This. I want real wrestling matches with Roddy Pipper, JYD, Andre the Giant, and actual John Cena. All this magical wrestlers shit would be fine in another jump or in some kind of 0 point drawback, but it's ass in a main jump.

>>48814583
I'd tentatively say yes only if the AI is bound as opposed to unbound to its form. What I mean by bound/unbound is a Mass Effect analogy: Geth are considered unbound because they can pretty much run on anything that has sufficient computing power and can swap around their programs, while EDI would be bound because the identity we know as EDI is running on a particular instance of quantum computing and if someone were to transfer the datafiles that compose EDI to another quantum computer, the nature of quantum mechanics wouldn't make the resulting AI as EDI anymore because of quantum stuff that I don't remember the name of.

tl dr: If you can transfer the AI to another hardware without changing its personality/identity/whatever then it doesn't count as part of their form.

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>>48812109
Well, I'm pretty open about my retconning and reslotting jumps around as needed for maximum retries because I'm an indecisive-yet-startlingly-OCD putz, so, I'm not sure that would really apply to me, but...
There are a couple jumps that are slotted as "<x> jumps before my final jump".
Chief among them is Light of Terra, because I figured I'd wait until I had amassed the maximum amount of power before I finally did the jump that strips it all away from me because I don't want to break the bauble that keeps the darkness at bay.
Cuz. Y'know. That makes sense.

>>48812807
That's...! ... actually really... creative.
Oh wow. I LIKE that. Yes!
That's fantastic, anon!
Thank you for putting that idea in my head!
HEHEHEHEHE.

>>48813060
First, See: >>48813162
Second, I think that actually might be the only one.

>>48814174
HEY, HEAVENSANON.
What happens when I combine Luna with Dark Side of the Moon?
... cuz I'm doin that.

>>48814808
>muh pinions!

>>48814808
Anon, they feed your addiction for free. If this is how you're gonna be to your dealers, don't be surprised when your crack gets cut with rat poison.

The truth is they have all the power, whether we want them to or not.

>>48814838
You will have the opportunity to wrestle whoever you want in the jump, anon. Do you have any ideas on how to incorporate wrestling matches with those individuals into perks and items? If so, I'm happy to hear them.

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>>48814867
>What happens when I combine Luna with Dark Side of the Moon?

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Boktai: The Sun Is In Your Hands
> Age: 54 [Rolled4] (2/2)
> Location: San Miguel
> Background: Solar Smith [-100CP]
> TAIYOOOH! [-100CP]
> Back To Basics [Get a Freebie!]
> The Finer Things [Get a Freebie!]
> With This Herring [-100CP]
> The Sum of the Sun [-100CP]
> Light Side of the Moon [-200CP]
> Twice As Bright [-300CP]
> From Darkness [Get a Freebie!]
> They Who Hate Life [-600CP]
> Mysterious Wanderer Jumper "Twilight Vagrant" [Get a Freebie!]
> Lunar Blood [-500CP]
> Hybrid [Get a Freebie!]
> Coffin [Get a Freebie!]
> A Forge [Get a Freebie!]
> Smith’s Hammer [Get a Freebie!]
> Jump Del Sol [Get a Freebie!]
> Old Friends: Shock Pistol [Get a Freebie!]
> Modular Weapon [Get a Freebie!]
> Cross-Battle! [Get a Freebie!]
> More Walking [+100CP]
> You Idiot! [+100CP]
> A Pale Moon [+200CP]
> The Restless Dead [+300CP]
> The Jumper of Groundsoaking Blood [+300CP]

Arsenal -
> Lens: Sol [Get a Freebie!]
> Battery: Single [Get a Freebie!]
> Frame: Fighter [Get a Freebie!]
Monstrous Powers -
> You Cannot Hide [Get a Freebie!]
> Breaker of Bones [Get a Freebie!]
> On a Pale Wind DX [Get a Freebie!]
> Dark Side of the Moon: Luna [-400IP]
> Darkness Tree [-600IP]
> Dark Child [-500IP]

.
.
.
> You Idiot!
> your immediate allies have all taken a sharp dip in competence
> The Restless Dead
> Your enemies are a lot stronger
> The Jumper of Groundsoaking Blood
> killing [Django] will only lead to him coming back to life with more Arsenal tailored towards your destruction

>>48814570
Doesn't it take hundreds to thousands of years to get to higher essence? Based on that, and depending on how long it takes to make charms, the cap on customs could be set even higher. Though, at this point I'm jacked to be a baby super primordial either way.

>>48814857
Oh. Oh my. Well, have fun, anon.

>>48814875
They have an obligation and a standard to uphold. If they can't do that, they're better off gone.

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>>48814892
> ... the truth is, I've been looking for someone strong enough to fight the Will of the Galaxy.
> Unable to fight it directly, I instead chose to work under it, granting me unparalleled ways of sabotage.
> Unfortunately, your father wasn't strong enough.
> But you...! Django!
> You look so heroic... ~
> You've certainly come a long way.
> ... It makes me kindof sad, actually.
> I look at you, and wonder if there could have been another way.
> ... but.
> I chose this path.
> And besides...
> I'd be l̴yin̛g ̸if̵ I ́said i̸t ́w̧asǹ't̀ fun̵.͜
> So, get ready!
> It's time for you to fight the final boss. ~

L E T ' S
B E G I N !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bmf41VD1DM

Non-Final Boss Monologue Vers:
Obviously the BEST way to do this is to game my drawbacks to render my allied side (The Immortals) mostly ineffectual, while strengthening Django to unheard of levels.
In this way, I make the world safer.
In order for this to work, however, I have to play my role.
Think of it as one of those reality warper plots where the warper in question has to abide by certain "rules", or else bad things happen. Like the Ellimist, or Mxyzptlk. Except I'm a jumper.

So, I'm at least as bad as any other villain, and at no point did I ally with humanity. At all.
But I did occasionally do incompetent villain things on purpose.
That's half the fun, after all.

I always assumed that if I didn't go home at the end of my chain it'd instead just end when I choked on food, or died by not being sufficiently warned about stairs.
Do you get an unmentioned immunity to anticlimactic deaths unless they'd be funny enough?

>>48814808
>And jumpers are the ones who take them out of the setting, therefore they should work because a jumper has them. Do you know nothing about the chain?

no CP warranty, the The stuff they do Has no Guarantees,and Does not work that way In Canon.

>>48814847
that Sounds reasonable. dammit, There goes Those ideas,Hey In That Case Is a combat Oriented body for a Ai a weapon?

>>48814882
You aren't listening. We want a Jump that starts with the premise that everything you see in WWE is real, that the wrestlers in the WWE are actual wrestlers, and that the results of matches are determined by actual wrestling skill. What you've got is something completely different. Cut down any perk that doesn't reflect that premise.

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>>48814783
Since Ar Tonelico I've learned to play for /all/ the teams. I wanted that tower but I was unable to keep it in my pants. I regret nothing.

>>48814837
Do you think we keep Bards around for /any/ other reason?

>>48814924
no, there are perks for that though

>>48814901
Can you at least pretend you aren't actively trying to kill the thread? C'mon, you can at least try.

>>48814901
Without them, there is no thread, no Drive. There are no Jumps, nor are there Chains.

This "consumer rights" thing only works when there are standards established by an outside authority (which there aren't) that companies must meet to avoid legal action (which isn't a thing here) by customers who have paid for their products (which you didn't).

They answer to us no more than you answer to SB's moderators - that is, not at all. And they don't have to. They owe us nothing. We owe them everything. Look what happens every time we lose one.

>>48814950
>that everything you see in WWE is real

Really? Does that include the time they brought GOD into the ring? Does it include the undertaker being a satanist? Or does it just include wrestling skill? Because it EVERYTHING you see in the WWE is real, then you've got a lot of non-mundane shit going on there.

Don't worry, I'll add a +0 Drawback that removes all the cool shit, just for you.

>>48813070
>Any upgrades added after afterwards
So if the property of the suit you were importing was something you could duplicate/recreate you could just install it instead of importing, and it could be standard on all other suits without you having to install the system on each one?

(The jump also mentions "how does Edna Mode have suits for companions you don't even have yet?" SMT and Dishonored give you Louis Cypher and the Observer, not as companions but as people who follow you form jump to jump to use as sounding boards, give unbiased advice, & dispense monologues. Maybe purchasing the Wardrobes perk allows you to call freely her into you warehouse for consults even in later jumps? Or you have an automated Edna Suit-O-Matic. Yeah yeah, wank it yourself, I know ..)

>>48814970
Stop giving him attention. That's what he wants.

>>48814976
You understand that's what he wants, right? He wants to kill Jumpchain. Every argument he makes is just another attempt. He's been trying to drive away everyone who makes content, so telling him that it's working only makes him try harder.

>>48814997
What else is there to do?

Nothing's happening. This is why we need new Jumps.

Anons, I think I fucked up. So, I tried having Frisk befriend Alma, and it worked...sort of. Except instead of making Alma better, it caused her to go full on yandere for Frisk. So, good news is, Becket no longer has to deal with Alma's...affections. Bad news is, Frisk does, and now we have to play a game of keep away while trying to figure out how to get her to calm down. Anyone have any ideas and suggestions?

>>48815014
I'd do an EDF one if I knew anything about balance. Or knew anything about the series past 4.1.

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>>48814899
You have no idea, anon. No idea.

>>48814897
>Doesn't it take hundreds to thousands of years to get to higher essence?
No. You're limited to Essence 5 until you've been an Exalted for 100 years. You're limited to Essence 6 until 250 years. Essence 7 until 500 years, Essence 8 until 1000, after that there's no time barrier between 9 and 10. Total cumulative cost to reach Essence 10 is 435XP. Downtime XP gains with no adventures or exciting events to earn you XP is more than enough for you to have stocked that away by a millennia of age even with spending XP on raising other stats and learning charms.

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>>48815020
You've killed the poor child, you fool.

>>48815013
>He wants to kill Jumpchain.
Why though?

>>48815045
So yes? It takes a century to even get above essence 5. And longer and longer the higher you get.

>>48815045
Oh, and while there is a training time to raise Essence, it's only the new rating in months. So going from Essence 8 to Essence 9 would only take as long as your average human pregnancy. Not a significant factor when accounting for time on the order of millennia.

>>48815080
He's been around since the beginning. Admittedly he's been more active of late, but there've been people who hated jumpchain from the get go.

One of the most persistent was the guy arguing for MGE to be a jump. When he lost he went on an out and out crusade to kill the thread. He lost again, but it was pretty ugly.

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>>48815020
Head over to Still Island and throw Frisk into the device. Nothing will go horribly wrong at all. Promise.

>>48815080
because he thinks CYOAs and Jumpchain and quests are what's killing /tg/
honestly though his shit's working, every shitstorm he causes makes me want to stop working on stuff more and more
Unfortunately for him, I keep my promises, I'll finish up Night Angel, create Zatch Bell, and post How to Train your Dragon before I quit, if at all.

>>48815101
No, that's total age. To get to Essence 10 only takes a thousand years of time as an Exalt total, not the time of every category added together. Even if it was, that would only amount to 1850 years. Far from "hundreds of thousands of years". Getting to Essence 10 only takes a hundred jumps. Shorter, if some of those jumps go longer than the typical decade. You could go to Civilization right after Exalted and get it done with only a single jump.

>>48813523
>Though I still need to reconcile the canon option being an endgame jump. Not quite sure why it is one.
Because some setting are lol nope dangerous.
Ask for the ability to take it as an end jump even you already beat it once. Because it will be a totally different experience.

>>48815080
"He" doesn't, it's just that people find it comforting to imagine that everyone who holds an opinion opposite to them is a single evil person, so they invented this shitposter anichrist character to yell at during our daily arguments.

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>>48814721
Eh, it's mostly because you barely have to work for higher essence, I think?

>>48814897
Setting the cap on customs at 5 instead of 7 or so is mostly because Infernals/Primordials get the VAST majority of their Charms at that point anyway, with after that the only things really left for them being a very small selection of new effects and more general reality rewriting fuckery.

>>48815201
You're always bad at getting called out.

>>48815167
I think you misunderstood my original question. I said hundreds to thousands. Not hundreds of thousands.

>>48815241
Oh, so I did. I totally misread that. Well, I am just mortified with myself, then. Please accept my apology, friend, for being such a doofus.

>>48815080
For the same reason trolls destroy anyone and anything. For fun.

>>48815235
He keeps trying though, the little rascal. I keep hoping he makes a friend and learns to enjoy things instead of stomping around like a petulant child.

>>48814313
Why do people still post jumps during arguments?

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>>48815080
Some people are dumb,
But you don't need to get mad.
Just do your own thing.
It's snowing on Mt Fuji.

- Haiku

>>48815144
You can always just take a break.
I mean, barring a mass ban or something, the thread will be here when you get back.

And as garbage as the latest updates to Google Drive have been, it does let you sort by date now, so it's not even all that hard to catch up on what you missed.
Don't overtax yourself. This entire thing is purportedly for fun.

It's weird, but I think of those three I will look forward to Zatch Bell the most, despite the fact that I have never seen how it ends. I saw it when it was running on Cartoon Network and I always thought it was really cute, but I'm pretty sure they stopped running it about halfway through.

I want to be friends with Dr Riddles.

>>48815307
In hopes of distracting people away from the argument. It rarely works.

>>48815167
And? I can kill an essence 10 exalted solar in that number of jumps even if they were only vacations. That level of power is nowhere near 'post spark banned' degrees of bullshit.

This setting gives you this level of power after 'only' a thousand years? And the setting itself has a comparable power level? Why should it be banned, because no one jump should ever give above a certain level of power, even if that level of power is within the scope of the setting itself, and is merely a potential that needs to be developed first, and isn't even so great by itself when sufficiently considered?

>>48815045
>there's no time barrier between 9 and 10
I thought essence 9 needed 1,000 years, and essence 10 needed 2,000 years.

>>48814570
>I propose banning making your own Essence 6+ custom Charms
Doesn't this completely neuter the Devil-Tigers you were against restricting us to Essence 5 for in the first place? Why not just put in the Essence 5 block at that point?

>>48815235
>denying you're The Shitposter proves that you're The Shitposter!
where have I seen this logic before...

But seriously I've seen threads that consisted almost entirely of back-and-forth accusations of people being the Shitposter, and many legitimate arguments devolved into meaningless ad hominem by people doing nothing but flinging accusations. If there really is a king shitposter this rampant paranoia is exactly what he wants.

>>48815319
Dr. Riddles needs friends, also the CN version of the show stopped right before the biggest two arcs, which blows, you should go read the manga if you want the story.
It got a bit darker, what with the King's Privilege being the power to kill literally everyone in the Momodo world all at once if they wanted

>>48814807
Call me old fashioned, but I like having pockets, even when I could hide buildings in my hammerspaces.

Besides, having pockets makes it easier to hide the fact you're pulling something out of another dimension.

So is a Drop-In option mandatory? Can it be substituted with the available backgrounds not giving memories and just knowledge?

>>48815307
I'm sorry, have you seen the thread recently? There isn't any time besides "during an argument" nowadays.

>>48815347
This. If you're banning essence 6+ custom charms, just scrap devil tiger completely. It's basically the entire point of going that route, if you take that away then there's just no reason to go for it.

>>48815371
You need something Drop In like that doesn't alter the jumper at all: no memories, knowledge, or ties. You can call it whatever you want, but it needs to be an option for those jumpers that don't want their heads messed with at all.

No amount of "you get these memories but it doesn't fuck with you" origin caveats will be sufficient.

>>48815326
It's not. He's letting you get to that level of power. I wasn't advocating for banning it, I was just explaining how long it would take to get that strong.

>>48815334
I don't think so. Core says there's no time barrier, and I'm not seeing anything in Scroll of Errata.

>>48815347
No, a Devil-Tiger's custom charms would be Essence 5 or lower, because that's what Primordial charms are at. Most Primordial charms have low Essence requirements for entry, and just get better at higher Essence. Banning Essence 6+ customs only restricts things like becoming a Primordial yourself. Which you really shouldn't want to do anyway, it's a trap option. So actually, he could allow it, now that I think about it. Let the people who want to waste their power waste their power.

>>48815371
I know that's how Dresden does it.

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>>48815347
No? The Devil-Tiger path is all written-up in a canon sourcebook, and can be taken without having to write up your own Essence 6+ Charms.

Infernals/Primordials get the VAST majority of their Charm before Essence 6. The Ebon Dragon, the only one with a real representation of 6+ Charms had all of four charms in that range. Three of which were upgrades to other charms. (Not counting the I-am-a-Yozi Charms.)

>>48815396
I can't really think of any Drop-in perks is the thing.

>>48815439
>and can be taken without having to write up your own Essence 6+ Charms.
But isn't that the point of Devil-Tiger? To become your own custom being instead of simply copying everyone else?

>>48815491
Drop in perks don't have to have a theme, you could just put a bunch of perks that could fit in other lines or just miscellaneous perks.

>>48814808
>It never matters if it's canon or not. We take them out of the setting, it should work for us.
Standard for Jumpchain is "things work out of jump the same way they work in jump." The setting has different dimensions in that jump, and stuff like the Infinity Stones can exist in multiple dimensions, and only have supreme administrative assess over the one they originate in. This is a no brainer, the right call was made.
If you want to jailbreak the set, put some effort into it. Maybe collect the entire set in jump, and import them as jujus in Sburb. That makes them unique across all realities, and might do the trick.
Or try something else.

>>48815491
Going kinda meta with the drop in tree is acceptable. Princess Bride made the Drop In an author. Lone Wolf made the Drop In a reader. Fiddle with things like that.

>>48815528
So you become your own custom being with 1-5 essence charms? 6+ essence stuff isn't required for originality.

>>48815528
Yes, and all the new charms you'd make would be Essence 5 or lower, because they'd still be Primordial charms and that's how Primordial charms work. Given that a Primordial is quite literally made of its charms, this could be seen as it wanting some redundancy in case it ever has its Essence lowered somehow, to make sure it won't spontaneously cease to exist. But of all the Primordial charms we know, the vast majority are Essence 5 or lower and just have expanded effects if your Essence is higher. They all have notes at the end saying things like "a character with Essence 6 or greater can _____". The only Primordial charms we know of that are inherently high-Essence are the ones that turn you into a Primordial and, in the process, limit your metaphysical nature so much that taking one of them is a trap option.

>>48815233
Is there one of these posters for Kimbery?

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>>48815319
Read the manga. It's great.

And they're just 300 chapters. And yes, you have to read it from the beginning, the last anime arc is completely different in the manga.

The art-style is so simple and clean, and yet so satisfying to read.

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Jumpers, what is that one sound you've learned to fear?

>>48815439
Eh, it takes long enough to reach those levels that the cap could be placed higher. Maybe at 6-7? Given that 9-10 is basically universal-levels/omnipotence, although I'm not sure if that requires the Shinma.

>>48815593
Not to mention that you can create Charms which get better with Essence, or can be repurchased for greater effect.

>>48815650
"Hail HYDRA."

>>48815640
I thought the entire point of Devil Tiger's was that they DIDN'T have the issue of turning into Primordials. Isn't that why their charms are heretical? Because their abilities are something that the Yozi failed to anticipate?

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>>48815650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJ5wa598NI


SCP Foundation universe is a fucked up place.

>>48815273
It's all good.

>>48815650
"EX-TER-MIN-ATE!"

>>48815650
The whiny reeeee of an entitled Jumpleecher. You just know the entire thread is going to shit as soon as you hear it.

>>48815703
And...?

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>>48815528
Personally, I like the inner world-body and soul hierarchy much more. But the personal theme is also nice.

Anyway, yes, it is. Which you can still do. Again, Infernal/Primordial charms are nearly always low-essence, and just get better with higher essence. There's no reason a Devil-Tiger would suddenly have to start its Charm tree at Essence 6.

You can still become an awesome custom being. In fact, you'd probably become more awesome than the Yozi, just because you can keep making new custom charms at essence 1 to 5.

Also this >>48815593 and this >>48815663

>>48815644
Yes.

>>48815653
There's no real point though. There's literally only two examples of charms at 6-7, and they're both simple upgrades to lower essence Charms.

>>48815684
Devil-Tigers turn themselves into their own version of a Primordial, through Heretical charms. They can then develop Charms based on their own theme, instead of the Yozi.

>>48815684
Well, they can turn into Primordials if they want to, they just don't have to. But my point is that you don't need high Essence charms to have high Essence power, because Infernal charms aren't built that way. They're designed to give you a low Essence version as an initiation to Primordial power, and then let you expand upon it as you grow without having to purchase new charms. From what the developers have said that was a mechanical decision to keep Infernals using mostly the same charms throughout so as to prevent them from having to rebuild Combos as they grew in power. Combos are kind of an XP sink for the other Exalted types, actually, they force you to rebuild them every time you get new charms if you want to stay relevant. The Ink Monkeys dev team actually tried to patch that for Solars with some of their errata.

>>48815653
>Given that 9-10 is basically universal-levels/omnipotence
>still wanking exalted this hard
Essence 10 exalts of all kinds are all barely city busters. Get fucked.

>>48815593
I think the question is more 'why should they be banned in the first place', especially if making custom charms fits more into the themes of Devil Tigers.

>>48813940
Heavens, would perks that mitigate vampire weaknesses work on Immortals? Also, to what extent does Half-Vampire's mortal form weaken Breaker of Bones?

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>>48815650
Also, anytime I hear static and see "Unknown origin", because I KNOW she's around...

>>48815774
Essence 10 Solars can make new laws of physics. I get it, you hate how Exalted gets hyped, but stop trying to downplay it.

>>48815774
Then what is the point of the cap in the first place? Especially if custom higher essence charms are just upgrades anyways.

>>48815828
The point is that he's lying.

>>48815650
I Know that crazyass Husband of mine did not seriously consider " insert horrible plan which is certainly going to backfire here" without telling me!

>>48814570
>Eternal Essence
Only being able to be killed by things that can kill spirits is not very impressive. All spirits get it by virtue if being spirits. It is sort of like the being able to phase makes you unkillable to people that cannot actually attack phased objects, or the fact that destroying the clothes you are wearing will not really affect you.

>>48814570
>I propose banning making your own Essence 6+ custom Charms
I liked this for the dragon blooded, and I like it here. there are no "whelp, there goes reality" charms there to rabble rouse around.

I would add an exception if they actually chose to take [Yozi] Cosmic Principle 1,000 years down the line, sure, why not? That has its own weaknesses and downsides, and you would need some high essence charms to be a complete primordial, which have not been published.

It's really awesome seeing you guys bitch and moan and whine and try to bully when you all fucking know >>48814875
is right

you can try to win
but
you're just cockroaches hoping to shit on quality food so you can eat when it becomes trash
whatever you people get
you deserve

>>48815828
This >>48815811. He's just salty over how much Exalted gets hyped.

>>48815884
Cool story, bro.

>>48815811
And? They can do flashy things on a local scale, but that's all it amounts to, flashy things on a local scale.

>>48815811
I think at this point you need to stop replying. He's attacking Exalted because he hates us getting content, and this is content people are getting excited about.

>>48814570
Eternal Essence seems fine, given that there's an essence three charm that can kill your ass anyways. And Yozi cosmic principle has some pretty serious downsides that balances out the power you get out of it. I know I'd never take that shit, but allowing it seems fine.

>>48815902
True. As >>48815901 shows he's just going to go "that's not that impressive, shut up nerd" to anything I try to respond with.

>>48815902
I'm attacking exalted because I hate exalted.

>>48815808
I'm still upset that we can't companion her.

>>48815770
So which Yozi are available for Infernals to serve under? From a brief look there are a number of lesser known Yozi that don't seem to have charm trees.

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>>48815860
Well, since no one else seems to care about Eternal Essence either, seems like it's fine then. Thanks.

And true, I guess. Cosmic Principle and co have some /hefty/ downsides...

>>48815908
Oh hey. Someone else cared to comment on those two. Thanks!

Alright then. No specific Charm bans.

>>48815961
Why do you want to?

>>48815934
It isn't impressive at all though. Nothing in exalted is really impressive. It's all showy, there's no actual substance to any of the powers. The only thing impressive about exalted are perfect effects, and even those aren't really impressive.

>>48815971
The Yozi that have currently joined the Reclamation are Malfeas, Cecylene, She Who Lives In Her Name, Adorjan, The Ebon Dragon, and Kimbery. If you want the charm sets of the others, you'll have to convince them to open them to you.

>>48815988
Why don't you?

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>>48813327
Does cooking count? I like to bake especially.

>>48814174
Sounds like you're a masochist

>>48814570
I can agree to this

>>48815020
Pod her.
Now Frisk will never leave her.

>>48815684
They can also entirely redesign their Exaltation and make Third Circle Demons of themselves, without any of the weaknesses Yozi/Primordials have with their Third Circle Souls.

I'd go Devil Tiger just for that.

>>48815770
Inner World is fucking awesome.

Not gonna lie though, I'mma design a Custom Charm to make Gateways, either temporary or permanent, between my Inner World and Reality.

>>48815770
If there's no real point, and the only other shit at that level is rewriting reality, why not raise the cap but ban the rewriting reality shit? Or just say whatever metaphysical structures needed for it don't follow you.

You should ban something if it's blatantly overpowered, not because you don't think it's good enough to be worth offering. That seems counter-intuitive.

>>48815991
>>She Who Lives In Her Name

how do You kill her?

>>48816037
Even if you could, she's just going to become a Neverborn. Which is bad.

>>48816037
Same way you kill any other Yozi/Primordial.
Conceptual Bullshit, and then choke them to death despite the fact they don't need to breath.

That or kill all of their Third and Second Circle Demons.

>>48815991
City, Desert, Balls, Wind, Dick, and Water. Got it.

>>48814685
While it is canon that infinity gems don't work in other universes (including alternate realities), crossovers are not canon, or at least that one isn't.

>>48815989
And I hate anime and don't find it impressive in the slightest, yet you don't hear me bitching and shit-slinging every other god damn thread.

Let people enjoy things, cocksucker.

>>48816037
The same way you kill any other Yozi, winnow down their soul hierarchy until they're so weak that they can't reform a new fetich soul after you kill it. Perks that make it hard to understand you will help, the Imperfection of the Principle of Hierarchy is that her perfect defenses don't work against things she doesn't understand.

>>48816007
She's crazy and not likeable.

>>48816007
No tits.

>>48816011
We apparently can't remove her from the setting. In other news, thanks to some insane rolls, Alma managed to catch Frisk and ran off with him, with myself and my team, Point Man and his group, Paxton Fetel and the replica forces, Harbinger Squad, and the company in pursuit

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>>48815703
>Do Not Be Taken Alive

That shit always creeps me out.

>>48816048
Wouldn't Balefire and Ghost Eating Technique together do the trick? The issue seems to be that their fat black asses clog up the drain and cause weird shit to grow. If you completely get rid of them, wouldn't that solve the Neverborn issue?

>>48816076
You should've told Frisk about the birds and the bees.

>>48816066
But you're wrong. Anime bullshit at least has substance to the stupid power levels. Planets get blown up and shit.

Nothing comparable happens in exalted. They have all this stupid shit that they can do, but none of it have any actual value, no real effect.

>>48816085
I don't see how Balefire would help in this scenario.

>>48816107
Anon wants to rewrite reality so the Neverborn never existed.

Anon fails to account for the fact that doing that with Balefire can destroy the universe.

>>48816072
I can fix crazy. I'm a jumper. The likeable part I disagree with, but I can understand.

>>48816075
Sure she does. Just not in her child form or her weird zombie form.

>>48816100
Let. People. Enjoy things. You god damn hateful piece of shit.

I know we're on 4chan but jesus fucking christ there's a limit.

>>48816048
I don't know What that is and I don't know how bad that is, please elaborate
>>48816067
That's going to be pretty difficult for me,My combat stuff is pretty straightforward.
>>48816064
Fair enough, but it was the picture that demonstrated that that I Could find

>>48816037
Why? I get that you've got this weird thing about freedom and therefore would hate the Principle of Hierarchy, but she's trapped and powerless and eternally tortured. Just leave her there, it's better punishment than just killing her would be.

>>48816085
No. The Primordials, and thus the Neverborn, have two problems.
1)There are no laws about them dying written into Creation. You have to realize Creation is like a giant computer simulation, with every tiny detail needed to be accounted for for things to work. SWLiHN was the one who handled most of this.
There was no "code" written for what happens if a Primordial dies, so Creation doesn't know how to fucking handle it. It is incapable of handling it.

2)Primordials are irrevocably tied to Creation itself. The end goal of the Neverborn IS to die, but them actually Dying for good will drag Creation itself into Oblivion with them.

>>48816133
He's dedicated 2 year of his life to preventing us from enjoying jumpchain. You're not going to stop him.

>>48816093
At this point, I just want to make sure Alma doesn't "teach" him about them. Because she's made it very clear she's more than willing to give him some lessons.

>>48816158
And I'm saying that you better act fast because there's a 90% chance she'll have given him a hands-on lesson by the time you get him back.

>>48816140
Neverborn are Primordials who died. But Primordials are incapable of Dying, so they transformed into the Neverborn.

The Neverborn for the most part sleep and plot, but when they get going they are much worse than the Yozi, because they aren't bound in the same way the Yozi were.

If Autochithon dies for example, he becomes The Engine of Extinction, and all life ends. Everywhere.

>>48816145
I take it there's nobody around who knows how to rewrite the rules now that balls is crazy?

>>48816143
But if she Is not around hierarchy is removed from the universe.
>>48816145
so you're saying we need to add a "fail condition" to Primordials? I have some
>>48816185
what would happen if they were resurrected?

>>48816131
>Sure she does. Just not in her child form or her weird zombie form.
[citation needed]

>>48816199
>But if she Is not around hierarchy is removed from the universe.
That's not how that works. She created hierarchy, and embodies it, but it exists separate from her. The things the other dead Primordials made didn't vanish when they were killed.

>>48816196
>>48816199
On that level? Only SWLiHN can at this point. Because she wrote most of the "code", and destroyed a MASSIVE chunk of it when she realized the Primordials were going to lose the war.

You'd need to find a way to let her get back on the "controls" of Creation, and then convince her to write in a way for Primordials to die safely.

>>48816199
>Resurrecting the Neverborn.
Bad things. Fully Powered Primordials who are all very very pissed off.

>>48816133
>Let. People. Enjoy things.

NO.

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>>48815971
There are the five Yozi you can have as your Caste Yozi. Which are Malfeas, the Demon City. Cecelyne, the Endless Desert. She Who Lives In Her Name, the Principle of Hierarchy. And the Ebon Dragon, the cause of everything bad.

Those five all have Charms written up to get, and Kimbery has those as well, but can only be Favored as there are only five Caste.

All of the others, you'd need to convince to allow them to open their Charms to you. Personal favorites are Isidoros, the Black Boar That Twists The Sky. Szoreny, the Silver Forest. And Oramus, the Dragon Beyond The World.


I'll include perks for all of those in the jump, and maybe a few more. (Hegra, and whomever else I can get good perks for)

>>48816011
>I can agree to this
Alright then.

>Inner World is fucking awesome.
Word.

>Not gonna lie though, I'mma design a Custom Charm to make Gateways, either temporary or permanent, between my Inner World and Reality.
Seems fine to me. I'd allow it.

>>48816037
She's imprisoned in a place of that endlessly torments her, living a pathetic mockery of her ideals.

You don't need to make her suffer more. She's in a true hell already.

That said... Same as any Primordial. Choke 'em.

>>48816199
>But if she Is not around hierarchy is removed from the universe.
No, it wouldn't be. Primordials embody their themes/concepts, but they're separate from them. Killing SWLiHN would not do anything to hierarchy as a concept.

>>48816199
>what would happen if they were resurrected?
You'd get a bunch of insane titans, free from the restrictions placed on the other Primordials, who want nothing more than to destroy all existence. Leave them to dream in their tombs, bancho. It's the best solution.

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>>48816185
Isn't there one Yozi/Neverborn who would end free will itself if he ever woke up, and everyone, including the other Yozi and Neverborn, wants to make sure he stays asleep?
>>48816206
She takes a form when she's trying to seduce Becket that actually looks pretty damn good

>>48816133
No. Fuck Exalted. I have dedicated my entire chain to ruining Exalted because I hate this fucking setting so fucking much. I cannot stress enough how fucking garbage tier everything in Exalted is compared to any other setting in all of jumpchain. There is nothing impressive or interesting about this setting. Nothing even dangerous really.

>>48816229
>Fully Powered Primordials who are all very very pissed off.
Sounds like the best thing anyone can do then.

>>48816145
I was thinking more that deleting them from existence, but not back to the point of them creating Creation, would bypass the issue. The only other things I can think of is using Blessing of Strahvs to beat them into a permanent coma, Power of Dominance after having level grinded by eating a fuckton of x-th level Demons and other spirits, and maybe another super prison, inside of another prison.

I know that Panty and Stocking perk can cure outright spiritual mutilation, which would help the Yozi, but they were kind of shit before the War.

>>48816252
Dude.

This is Tera we're talking about.

If there's a visible way for him to screw this up and meddle, he will.

>>48816206
It's when she tries to seduce that guy in FEAR 2. Granted, they aren't the huge stonkin tits the thread loves so much, but she does have them.

>>48816206
Alma is actually an adult by this point, her psychic projections are just children because that's how she sees herself. It was the last age at which she was before they captured her for their experiments.

>>48816219
oh, nevermind that Then.
>>48816229
>SWLiHN

Tell me about them, especially How to manipulate them.

>>48816256
Yup. Sacheverell. He's a Yozi. Literally nobody wants him awake though, not even he himself.

>>48816263
>Sounds like the best thing anyone can do then.
This. I don't think you guys realize, your goal with exalted should be to fuck over creation as badly as possible, no matter who you are.

>>48816059
>City, Desert, Balls, Wind, Dick, and Water.

By Your Powers Combined!
...
What Lame Kind of Power is Dick, Anyway?
Or should that be 'Limp'?

>>48816236
Aw, water chick isn't a main one? That's unfortunate. SWLiHN is way too law focused for me and Ebon is a dickass.

Deserts and Wind and Cities aren't exactly my element, for the others.

I know what you're saying about the other ones, but the problem there is their charms would all be fanwank, meaning no direction.

>>48816263
Ok, so do that. That sounds interesting. Stop shitting on the setting and show us your Chain that reduces Creation to oblivion.

>>48816256
>Isn't there one Yozi/Neverborn who would end free will itself if he ever woke up, and everyone, including the other Yozi and Neverborn, wants to make sure he stays asleep?
Yep. Sacheverall, He Who Sees The Shape Of Things To Come. While he sleeps his vision is clouded by his dreams, and there is indeterminancy and possibility and change. Were he to awake, though, all reality would be bound by his perfect prediction of what shall be, the quantum wavefunction collapsed down to a single linear path. He's terrifying.

>>48816285
>SWLiHN
>Tell me about them, especially How to manipulate them.

...it stand for She Who Lives in Her Name. And she can't actually do that anymore, because her surrender oaths prevent her from doing so. If she even could before.

>>48816236
You forgot Adorjan.

>>48816256
I think that's Sacheverell.

>>48816263
Hey man, you do you. If you hate the setting then destroy it. Don't tell us how much you hate it every post.

>>48816264
I have no idea if that would work. I want to say "it wouldn't" but I'm in no place to make that ruling.

>>48816285
SWLiHN is very simple. She is Hierarchy, prove you're her Superior and she'll do whatever you say.
Cycelene is just as simple, she believe in the Rule of the Strong. Beat the shit out of her, or her boss, and she'll listen.

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>>48816082
>symbols have been compromised

Is there anything in jumpchain you can use to break the Yozi's oaths so you can fuck up creation even harder after reviving the neverborn?

>>48816302
The Ebon Dragon is so dickish, he fucks everyone over. His allies, his enemies, himself, hell Return of the Scarlet Empress was such a mess he even fucked over the people beyond the fourth wall. Such is the true extent of his dicketry.

>>48816309
You can just focus on your Favored Yozi instead of your Caste though. Nothing preventing you from doing so.

Also...
>SWLiHN is way too law focused
Fun fact, as much as she's all about strictness and law... her Charms allow you to do absurd things, and fly completely in the face of that. Like making telekinetic guitars that shoot lightning.

>>48816289
Doesn't SWLiHN hate free will though? You'd think she'd be all for it.

>>48816321
>>surrender oaths

who Or what did she swear them to? And can I convince them To release her? This world very broken and I Need To know how to fix it.

>>48816285
SWLiHN is an abbreviation of She Who Lives in Her Name. You know, the Yozi you hate.

Honestly, I'm not sure why you're so against her. SWLiHN is actually kind of nice. Yes, she wants order, but she's willing to make it a fair order. One where everything is in its place, yes, but where the strong do not oppress the weak and there is possibility for growth and advancement unhindered by tyrants. The one you should hate is Cecylene. She was once the lawgiver of the Primordials, but since becoming a Yozi her only law is "obey those stronger than you". She is an abuser, who makes up laws at a whim so as to punish those who offend her, and who will excuse any crime she herself commits under the logic of "I am stronger than you, that means I get to do what I want". Based on what I know of you, that should offend you a hell of a lot more than just wanting order.

>>48816313
That requires effort though.

And why should he when you're feeding him (You)'s anyway?

>>48816322
Didn't SWLiHN actually offer her services and loyalty to the Unconquered Sun after he and his forces won the war? And then he told her to fuck off and she threw a temper tantrum and destroyed 90% of Creation.

>>48816395
The Solar Deliberative, who are all dead.
You'd need to remake the Deliberative and make yourself the head, or MAYBE convince the Death Lords(Dead Solars who are pissed) to release her.

>>48816410
ALL of the Yozi surrendered, even Theion(Malfias).
The Solars mutilated them and locked them in a cage.

>>48816402
>anyone that doesn't like my terrible setting is bait and shitposting
Exalted is suggsverse levels of trash. Accept it already.

>>48816375
I think Spirit of Anarchy from Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, and Stars and Stones from Dresden Files.

>>48816410
Yes, she was super pissed because she was actually willing to work for the gods but they decided to torture her for eternity instead like everyone else so she decided to pay them back by blowing up 90% of the world.

>>48816395
She swore them to many people, including herself. There's no one person that can release them from their oaths, that's kind of the point.

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>>48816322
>You forgot Adorjan.
NOOO! How could I?

...I play Scourge half the time. How the fuck?

>>48816388
Problem is that there's no Hierarchy. Just whatever Sacheverell sees.

Otherwise she'd probably be all over that, yeah. Free will was a mistake from the beginning in her eyes.

>>48816395
The Solar Exalted and Incarnae when she lost the Primordial War.

>And can I convince them To release her?
Hahahahaha, no. She offered to work for the Sun when they surrendered. She got turned down.

Also, I am out of propaganda posters.

>>48816432
>X is suggsverse levels of trash.
I've been seeing this line about at least a dozen settings lately.

>>48816432
Only thing I gotta accept is that you're a shitty human being.

Like Tera/Bancho.