Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1020: Late Edition

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What are some must-have perks for a Trump chain?

Again... A quick question about keyblade, do they come with resistant to outside power and influence? Like being resistance to elemental damage, or mind control or superpowers?

>>48789284
The Eidolon power from the Worm jump. That is, after all, the best possible Trump power.

For Incredibles, since Wardrobe makes upgrades shared across all of your suits would importing multiple outfits as suits spread their properties across both each other and any other suits Wardrobe provides?

>>48789285
Not the maker, but not that I recall? Not by default, anyway. The keyblades themselves are extraordinarily durable though, and can give you certain powers - have you read the Supplement for the Kingdom Hearts jump?

>>48789333
I wish. More likely it would only apply for future upgrades, sadly. Though this does mean if you have multiple outfits, they would all get those properties by upgrading a single one - if you want to play Iron Man this would be ideal, and if one outfit gets ruined, the rest still are intact with everything they have.

>>48789284
Beautiful Hair from Adventure Time
Citizen Capstone from 40k Imperium (i think)

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>>48781538 →
It's whatever might be considered magic here, in the 21st century of the universe the jumper started from.
>>48782892 →
The roll was to make things a bit interesting. You could get as little as 2000 years and as much as 25000. I never had any intention iof giving the the full 50000.
The 0.01% thing is supposed to be something to make the matter actually challenging. The books show us that it's actually perfectly doable, so I want a challenge worthy of a jumper.
Buffed the implants.
Both IR origins get 500 Item-only CP.
>>48782910 →
I'll wait for some more opinions on the parasite, and then see what to do.
Ooh, I like the habitat and the manual. *YOINK!*
>>48782924 →
That was the functional intent of that, yes. That's why it says nothing about blueprints or tech. All you're losing is what it says there. Magic and ships.
>>48783508 →
Hm, a minimum NPC crew to keep things functioning, let's say.

So here's the updated version. Didn't put in the new suggested items yet, since I want to work on the fluff some more.

I'm not that familiar with Ravenloft, can someone tell me how evil I have to be to get stuck there? Hitler level? Manson level?
Because i'm doing an Evil run and i'm a bit afraid of the Dark Powers

>>48789284
Alice - Through the Looking Glass's "That makes no sense!"

>>48789340
Yeah, just wondering about the keyblade inherit nature, I know that keyblade will never be lost, will always come to you when you need it. Able to focus your magic through it, can open any lock (based on what you wank, even conceptual lock). Able to customize it to meet your requirement, increase damage or increases magic etc. Can't be broken and able to kill the unkillable. That it, I guess, the more powerful conceptual stuff are in setting only as far as I know.

>>48789364
Pulling a Manson will get you the attention of the Dark Powers, and they'll tempt you to pull a Hitler. Pulling a Hitler... daresay chain over.

>>48789364
Ignore that rule. It's just a dumb early /jc/ artefact at best, my jump is speshul syndrome at worst.

>>48789416
Hitler didn't really do anything that bad though

>>48789364
You have to be way more evil than your average murderhobo. We're talking Dracula-level evil at a minimum, getting the dark powers interested in your imminent ascent to evil godhood. 99.9% of jumpers are in no danger of getting stuck, despite the warnings.

Does the Evolution perk in PMD do anything if you go in as a human?

>>48789451
>>48789416
Thank you, so mass genocide will probably get me in trouble but the casual murder or mindrape here and there is nothing to worry about right?

>>48789477
>nothing to worry about
Heh. Are you trying to invoke Murphy?

>>48789477
You'll find that the dark powers will try to tempt you into the mass genocide if you go out and do shit, but yeah, you'll probably be okay.

Alright. What the fuck did you stupid fucks do to the ascension jump last thread? Why the fuck are you actively sabotaging a jump in the making that has the potential to be improved by telling them to mimic a jump like awakening in the worst possible area to imitate, the handling of paradox and archmastery?

Do you want this thread to continue devolving into meaningless, purposeless bitching about how fucking stupid and terrible the ascension jump is, for months on end? Because you fucks can't keep your nerf boners down, and feel the need to always make terrible decisions at the onset of a jumps creation and need to be fucking berated for how fucking stupid you are, after every time you voice your opinions?

Are you fucks retarded? Why do you want ascension to be like awakening in the one area you complain about for awakening constantly?

>>48789559
Maybe you should stop confusing one or two people whining about paradox and archmastery for the whole thread. It might give you some helpful context on why people said what they did.

>>48789559
>Are you fucks retarded?
Yes, if the last thread is any indication.

>>48789477

There is a very real slippery slope being tailored to you, however.

The Dark Powers will engineer situations to encourage your darker urges. And they'll slowly up the ante as you become less and less averse to using your abilities. You don't have to do something selfish or fucked up... but it will probably be the path of least resistance a lot more often than would be the case elsewhere.

And every time you give in to temptation, they get a little bit more power over you.

The trick is to maintain constant awareness of this fact and the existence of the dark powers and pass their tests. Think of them like a reality bending insecure girlfriend. They're deliberately making it likely for you to fail, but they won't retaliate if you succeed. But you'll never be free from this shit for the duration of your stay.

>>48789565
It was most, if not all, of the thread actually that was arguing for paradox and telling Poor Dick to mimic the Awakening jump for how to handle Arete.

>>48789559
I don't know why people whine so much about archmastery. The difference between what you can do with 5 dots and +5 dots is not that big. And the paradox is kind of useless, since there is an origin that outright ignores it and you can skip it using Quintessence.

>>48789592
I know. I was saying that the people whining about those things in the Ascension jump were only a few, not the whole thread. Sorry if I miscommunicated that.

>>48789364
Just do it as an early jump and stack two or three iron-will powers.

>>48789597
For Awakening, the entire justification basically was just imperial stuff.

>>48789600
Fuck, awakening I mean. I get those so confused.

>>48789600
Anon, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I was trolling. I had hoped the 'the thread agrees with me' would have set you off, but rather than continue the charade I've decided to just explain it to you.

>>48789620
No, in this area you are actually wrong. Pretty much no one likes how awakening did it. In the same way, basically everyone will same if Ascension mimics it; that is to say, people will never stop talking about how dumb it is.

>>48789362
Please define magic more clearly.

>>48789645
I honestly feel that awakening wasn't strict enough. I feel like giving us mastery is too much, and we should have been banned from even attaining that much.

>>48789591
>Think of them like a reality bending insecure girlfriend.
Damn that's a nightmare right there.

>>48789663
>>48789591
>tfw no insecure reality bending dark power gf

>>48789645
You can say you're trolling but it doesn't change the facts of what happened then but I guess there's no point talking to you if you're trolling. Have a nice day.

>>48789559
>Are you fucks retarded?
Considering we have to make a double thread about every third time a thread is due to be made because someone doesn't fucking know how to count, yes, I would say we ARE retarded.

>>48789645
Nope, wrong. Everyone/a majority dislikes how the arcana/mastery and gnosis was handled, not that you keep paradox and can't get archmastery. Only a small number of morons argue for that. Good try moron, but you'll need to pay attention more.

>>48789620
Uh. It's the opposite, actually. The people pushing for paradox and a hardcap like with the other mage jump were the ones samefagging. It was at most 2 guys bitching about how we should make the same mistake we did with the first mage jump, and they were both actively working to ruin the thread. They only advocated for it because they wanted to shitpost about it.

>>48789701
More people dislike how paradox was handled than people dislike the stupid gnosis cap, a it seems like no one's even willing to try and defend that.

>>48789718
Sure man, whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>48789701
There were people arguing for archmastery not to be banned last thread, and they had valid stances on the issue.

>>48789731
Only an idiot would still dislike it after how many times people have pointed out the several ways to circumvent it or pointed out how it's near completely ineffectual once you take a durability perk or two.

Are you an idiot anon?

Why are you guys even arguing? It's not like the jump is being made anymore. You're all looking kind of dumb bitching at each other over literally nothing.

>>48789362
So there is now a new biggest baddest ship in /jc/, suck it Light of Terra!

>>48789747
>only an idiot would raise issue with this issue once I've explained how you can bend over and take my dick in your ass rather than actually deal with the problem.

Are you an idiot?

>>48789766
Ah, you are an idiot. Too bad, thought I was talking to someone reasonable.

>>48789762
Why do you think I brought it up? You stupid fucks need a talking down to after that shit. You should feel like shit for how badly you fucked it all up.

>>48789783
Pfthaha.

>>48789362
So basically the new biggest, baddest, everyone must get because awesome ship that surpasses even the Light of Terra requires us to essentially become the Emperor of Mankind but better in a universe even more dangerous than 40K. . . without our powers. . .

It really sucks when awesome stuff is locked behind auto lose scenarios, the only jumpers that are going to be able to play with this are people who wank that they won for "reasons".

>>48789791
>the only jumpers that are going to be able to play with this are people who wank that they won for "reasons".

You mean the same thing as the LoT?

>>48789763
Yep. Asgerd-class planetoid ships never have their size explicitly stated, but they're said to be about a third again as large as Utu-class. Utu-class are spheres 1650 kilometers in radius. So the Asgerd are around 2200 kilometers in radius.

>>48789791
I wouldn't say it's worse than 40K. No demons, no tyranids, no necrons. Some nasty shit, but you can survive it. And it's not no powers, it's no magic. That still leaves a lot of superhuman abilities available to you.

>>48789807
>And it's not no powers, it's no magic.
>>48789362
>It's whatever might be considered magic here, in the 21st century of the universe the jumper started from.

This is giving me the impression that it means nothing that would be considered supernatural by our world's current standards. So basically reduced to peak human and thrown into a setting where moon sized warships engage in dogfights at fractions of C. It's looking pretty auto lose if you want that ship, which everyone will.

>>48789807
>>48789791
>No magic
>You can still use all your worm powers, your kryptonian/martian super-hybrid DNA, your DCAU Amazo's body, your Asgardian physiology, your Overlord stats, all of your Hive-Queen/Zerg/Sup-Comn/[*Any Mecha Franchise*], all your Genius/Super-planner perks, etc.
>People still whine and call this hard

C'mon, you can still crumbstomp the setting with only one or two of those Jumps.

>>48789877
All of those things are magic though.

>>48789860
Right. Anything that's conceivable as being science from a 21st century perspective is allowed, meaning lots of advanced technology is still available. And you have a minimum of a two thousand year head start on the giant doom weapons being thrown around. I believe in you anon. I believe that you have the capability to forge mankind into a great and mighty empire with a minimum of two millennia to work with. Two millennia to unite humanity, seize the advanced technology of Dahah, and build us into a power that can withstand the Achuultani. You can do it.

>>48789895
We still have people with internet access that believe that the earth is flat and dinosaurs aren't real.
I seriously doubt anon could forge a united empire out of humanity when he has people like that to work with.

>>48789923
So just kill the dumb ones. Or better yet, unite the rest of humanity against them for an easy target and a good head start to unification once the undesirables are all gone.

Is anyone else having a problem with the google doc seemingly deleting folders and files right away, which is only fixed by refreshing the page?
It's a really weird glitch, no clue why it's happening.

>>48789923
He could if he had a bunch of charisma and organizational perks. It's not magic for someone to just be a great leader and statesman. Stretching the limits of credibility, but not outright breaking them.

>>48789364
I don't think the issue is how evil you are going in, I think the issue is more how far you fall during your stay there.
The theme is choosing to give in to evil (usually in exchange for Dark Gifts or the easy way or power or something), after all. The personal tragedy part that happens all the time is about keeping you mad/insane/distracted enough to not care where your choices take you.

If you can withhold your evil tendencies and resist temptations of power for the 10-year duration, you should be no more likely to be trapped than anyone else.
But being evil going in will mean you'll fall faster, and further, and it'll make temptations/traps more difficult to stay clear of.

>>48789951
Occasionally. Haven't had it happen with the Jumpchain drive yet, but I've had it happen with others. Not sure why, Google Drive seems to be having all sorts of problems lately.

>>48789890
Uh... magic. The kind of supernatural powers that are not sci-fi or superpowers. Why is this so complicated?

>>48789653
No...no they aren't. I'm not talking about any kind of philosophical idea of magic. I'm talking about the general descriptions. Harry Potter is banned, Star Trek is not. Cardcaptor Sakura is banned, Evangelion isn't. Whatever you managed to sneak past the Doctor is not banned.>>48789877 is 100% correct.
>>48789860
Sorry for giving you that impression. But the word there isn't 'supernatural'. It's explicitly 'magic'. Nanites yes, potions no. Tony Stark yes, Stephen Strange no.
>>48789895
Yup.

>>48789972
How would it affect fiat perks that impose a sort of causality to your life? Like, there's a perk in Civ that makes it so that the people in your organization are consummate professionals, neither envying those above them nor deriding those below them. Would something like that work?

Honestly LoT should be removed from the drive. It's not Jumpchain compliant at all.

>>48789983
Yes, definitely. That is, unless it says clearly that the effect is caused due to magic.

>>48789987
It's /slightly/ Jumpchain compliant. Not as much as it should be, but it at least makes a token acknowledgement of the premise's standard mechanics and concepts.

>>48789994
Honestly, the reason for that is almost solely just to prevent people from apparating or Golden Tiger Claws or whatever onto the Dahak

>>48786685
Dad's an inventive one.

>>48789994
Oh, awesome. Then yeah, this is going to be...well, not easy, but certainly not impossible. Sure, you might be squishier in this jump than in others, but you'll be behind a thousand kilometers of armor plating and shields by the time things get dangerous. You can afford to be squishy.

>>48790008
"Dads lying to their children about how the world works" is one of Weinersmith's favorite topics. I fear for his daughter once she gets old enough to start asking questions.

>>48789963
Ravenloft is so fucking stupid. The entire set up is the overblown equivalent of the 'goblin child detects as evil' bullshit games that GMs love to play with paladins. More so because the defending yourself from hoards of monsters and not taking any temptations at all will still make you fall. The setting is trash. The jump is better than the setting by fucking miles.

>>48789600
Honestly, Ascension doesn't do a good job. If he wanted to block Archmastery, blocking that directly instead of a Gnosis limit would be better. As far as Paradox, it should update each jump to only trigger if you do something outside what people in those worlds think is possible, not what people in WoD think is possible.

>>48789972
In that case it is time to return to my capital ship sized GBE plans and small army of assholes with nine worm powers each. I will reach dahah quickly, turn it into a super weapon with GG Sparks and Worm Tinkers, then it is time to rape the Achuultani hard with jumper tier bullshit.

>>48790027
This sounds like a good jump to mass produce Sajuuk duplicates at full scale, so that they are functionally planet crackers.

And then figure out how to upscale their weaponry.

>>48790023
Stop. Just stop. Poor Dick already got driven off by these stupid fucks, we don't need to transition into a bitching fest over how terrible awakening is for stupid rulings, whether or not it's right.

>>48790004
That will not stop us, a determined jumper will be on board before anyone on the rest of the planet could blink.

>>48789890
They're either DNA based or not so far from what you can already see being developed.

There're trickier perks that could be considered a 'sufficiently advanced science that turned into magic', but neither of those that I listed felt into that category.

>>48790023
>As far as Paradox, it should update each jump to only trigger if you do something outside what people in those worlds think is possible, not what people in WoD think is possible.

That seems like a bad a idea.

But as I said before, why bother with Paradox so much? There are a lot of ways to skip it, even in-Jump.

>>48789806
>Not spending countless hours carefully crafting a realistic and adaptable plan to take over the Light
>Not using both psyker powers and psyker safety perks to destroy any further threat
>Not waifuing a Dark Eldar and becoming bros with Vekt Himself

k

>>48790042
>just because this problem is a problem, doesn't mean you shouldn't ignore it because I tell you to

>>48790042
I'm giving an opinion on what I think is a better way to handle it. That it can be easily resisted in Ascension is kind of irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Also, Paradox is a much bigger deal in Awakening.

>>48790038
It's best for thin-skinned pussy jump makers to gtfo early on so they don't pull a Jojo and leave a half-finished jump of a popular setting that everyone is to afraid to touch.

>>48790055
Fuck off.

>>48790004
>almost solely just to prevent people from apparating or Golden Tiger Claws or whatever onto the Dahak
Well, time to use our Transporters and teleport onboard. Honestly, it seems like a stupid distinction that only serves to punish magic or ki jumpers while doing absolutely nothing to tech jumpers.

>>48790072
Unlike some jumpmakers I'm not a sensitive female so I'm not going to leave just because you hurt my precious feelings.

>>48790093
So are you an insensitive female or a sensitive male?

>>48790055
Honestly the jump is finished and arguably more than decently made, all it need is a stand-alone (get it?) stand supplement. I think nobody would complain if someone made it.

>>48790131
Wrong. That's considered to be altering and adding onto someone's work without their permission, which is not okay here.

>>48790091
...sure, if you think that way. That would be thematic for the universe, actually.

It's a thing I decided to do to prevent trivializing the challenge. Gonna have to give up something for 600 CP, dude.

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I know it's kind of a small issue, but do you guys prefer perks sorted by class or by cost?

>>48790136
Meh, Jojo anon is dead and gone for more than a year now and she explicitly told us she will never make a stand-supplement, I don't see the problem in making a compendium for her Jump, not that I care honestly.

>>48790140
>Gonna have to give up something for 600 CP
Why? Tech still works fine. No problems here, challenge trivialised, spaceship get.

>>48790157
Cost.

>>48790160
People aren't going to make an exception because you don't like someone.

>>48790157
Class, it helps me decide which class to pick based on discounts and exlusives.

>>48790157
>but do you guys prefer perks sorted by class or by cost?
both, in this case the left size of your picture, first origin then cost

>>48790131
Are there any already made stand general CYOA things that could be used as a stand in supplement?

>>48790157
Either works fine, so long as it's consistent. Sorted by class means you only need to say "discounted to [X]" once per origin, but both have their own advantages and disadvantages when it comes to easily comparing perks.

>>48790157
The left one.

>>48790166
>because you don't like someone.
I wasn't even around when the jump was made, just saying that no one would modify anything it's just adding a supplement, from your point of view the half the supplements on the supplement folder should be deleted because they add shit on the warehouse made by quicksilver.

>>48790203
It's modifying it because you are attaching your work to their work to extend its functionality. Go away.

>The supplements in the supplement folder.
You mean the generic ones that aren't attached to any jump? The ones 90% of posters will shit on all day?

>>48790157
I don't mind either way, as long as there's an attempt at a logical order.
I guess it just depends how easily it reads - sometimes it makes more sense to do it one way over another, sometimes you just have tons of perks or ones that have special effects with each other, so it's better to keep the ones that interact with each other together.

>>48790004
So how would you suggest we get past the Dahak's standing kill all who try to board orders other than teleport in?

>>48790140
>Gonna have to give up something for 600 CP, dude.
Even without that you are under a fail condition if the Achuultani kill more than .01% of humans, also how likely is it for that to happen before we even have a chance to do anything? Since we will be stuck on earth for quite a while and won't be able to help any of the other human planets.

>>48790182
>Are there any already made stand general CYOA things that could be used as a stand in supplement?
not that I'm aware of.

I've only just discovered what JumpChain is actually about, seen it on /tg/ for a while but assumed it was just another system.
I like spending points on CYOAs and trying to emulate my ideal powerset in each setting, and I can do that pretty well, but having all the purchases continue on to new settings is where I have trouble.
I like to collect and strengthen a core innate powerset and skills, but not reliant on equipment, robotics, allies, or magic.
I usually go for superspeed, peak or superhuman body, parkour, endless stamina, no need to sleep, eat, drink, or breathe, teleportation, intangibility, invisibility/stealth, anything to conceal my powers or blend in, enough regeneration to keep me whole, and some mental/will/magic/social fu defences.
I downloaded a bunch of the PDFs from media I'm familiar with, I don't want a grab bag of misc weird stuff I pick up on each Jump, I prefer the feel of a tidy clear package for what I can do.
I end up just picking the same stuff for each Jump, instead of thinking about what I've already got, and whether this purchase will increase powers I have.

How do you guys compare the strength of various similar effects, and how do you plan out a path to get the best version of a power you want?
I sometimes wish I could just spend a bunch more points on BodyMod instead of redundancies.
Anyway, I appreciate any help you guys can give me.

>>48790294
Most people honestly just fly by the seat of their pants.

>>48790252
First of all, teleporting is not blanket banned. Secondly, that's the challenge. Talk to him somehow, or be too fast for him to kill before he can analyze and realize who you are...

Look dudes. This is how it is. The world is purely sci-fi. So I thought it would be more thematic if jumpers relied solely on sci-fi to achieve stuff. I'm not imposing anything, you can still do the jump without taking that DB. Plenty of Imperial databases around that have blueprints for those ships, just saying.
>Even without that you are under a fail condition if the Achuultani kill more than .01% of humans, also how likely is it for that to happen before we even have a chance to do anything? Since we will be stuck on earth for quite a while and won't be able to help any of the other human planets.
Pretty unlikely. If you take that drawback, you have a minimum of a thousand years before they show up.

>>48790319
Honestly, I think anon is picking on you to have something to pick on, you feel me?

>>48790294
>How do you guys compare the strength of various similar effects, and how do you plan out a path to get the best version of a power you want?

Start small and stack everything into the power or theme I want. Adding power boosts as I go as well as I can.

>>48790157
By cost. It helps me more easily compare what each tier will buy me, and whether there are any obvious outliers to let the creator know about.

>>48790319
>Talk to him somehow, or be too fast for him to kill before he can analyze and realize who you are...
Or take the perk that would have him recognize you as captain if you reach the ship before the MC and then fly to the moon with superpowers.

>>48790157
Ideally you can get do either and stack them together so you've effectively done both.

D1 M1 F1
D2 M2 F2
D3 M3 F3
D4 M4 F4

Requires you to either image it or do text boxes though I suppose.

>>48790294
usually you look for canonical examples of that ability,Then adjust it what it says you get in the jump then review what your strongest previous version of that ability is and apply Diminishing returns.

>>48790330
Well, I try to treat all criticism as relevant...

>>48790365
That would be the 'be too fast for him to kill before analyzing' option, yes.

So any glaring issues? Or can I put the 'tentatively OK'd by /tg/' on this?

>>48790157
Class.

>>48790392
Looks good to me so far but I'm biased in favor any jump with a better ship option than LoT, because fuck that mess.

>>48790392
It looks fine to me. Though now I'm going to have to reread the books now that I've been reminded of their existence. That happens to me a lot with Jumpchain.

>>48790389
>Advocating diminishing returns
No. That shit is way too complex and retarded, someone who is already having trouble with keeping track of powers doesn't need that added on, and it's one of the most commonly ignored (and commonly accepted to ignore) things.

>>48790306
I understand some people do this for the wild journey, or to become gods, or mess around in a setting they like or hate, or to meet waifus, or to enact grand schemes like building their own empire with hookers and blow. I plan on eventually completing the powerset I enjoy, and following a good path towards that.

>>48790340
I can see that, but what about cases where the boost are small and not worth the cost compared to what you have already, how do I pick the best place to get a specific ability?

>>48790389
I'm not really familiar with the crowd that does maths to tell how one cape is stronger than another, the clear ranges like mach 1 or 60 tons is the best I can go by. Linear upgrades make more sense for me, especially if I'm not going quadratic and trying to bend the universes over my knee.

>How do you guys compare the strength of various similar effects?
Try to find canonical examples if the perk doesn't specify a hard limit or give examples. This is where you might get a lot of conflicting info and opinions.
For example the free "Basic Ninja Training" in Naruto give the example of being able to sneak in a bright orange jumpsuit, while "Stealthy" in X-men doesn't really say, but I'm pretty sure we don't see the sneaky characters wearing bright colors so it's probably not as much of a boost.

>and how do you plan out a path to get the best version of a power you want?
The only way to do that is to know where, among all the jumps, the best examples of the power is. Which means you either have to read all the jumps, or ask around in thread where certain abilities might be found.
Personally I prefer not to plan things around powers or abilities, but that's just me.
Also this >>48790306.


>>48790182
If you google "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Stand Generator" you might find something.

>>48789362
>It's whatever might be considered magic here, in the 21st century of the universe the jumper started from.
What amuses me most about this is that a lot of the "tech" in the Dahak books would be considered magic by our 21st century standards, since it pretty much runs on handwavium.

>>48790479
I appreciate it, thanks for all the suggestions guys.

I know that Pokemon is the default first Jump, but I'd rather not spend 10 years with a pet I know I'd grow to love, because I'd prefer to do the rest solo.
Is there a good starting Jump for metahumans? Low-power is fine to begin with.

>>48790466
usually How strong or Quick you are is given in The jump And https://www.wolframalpha.com/ is great if you don't want to do the math yourself,seriously it should be part of the Paste

>>48790512
Infamous is a popular one.

>>48790512
Symbiote or Shadow ops are good starting jumps. You can mostly avoid the plot and shit by leaving america.

>>48790512
>Is there a good starting Jump for metahumans?
Just pick a setting you like and roll with it, any jump is fine. If you want to play it safe pick a mild setting if you like the risk take something more dangerous etc.

>>48790512
Green Lantern animated might be Good for you

>>48790294
>How do you guys compare the strength of various similar effects, and how do you plan out a path to get the best version of a power you want?
If the power is a specific thing in the original setting, I use that as a benchmark. Otherwise, I generally assume that all perks that do the same thing are equal unless they list a specific level for it. So the intelligence perk in Rick and Morty that makes you the smartest person in a universe is better than the intelligence perk in Ender's Game that makes you a super genius, which in turn is better than the one in Harry Potter that just says you're better at analytical thinking.

I also personally don't plan out my purchases for future jumps at all, but if you do want to get the best version of a certain ability, you can just ask the thread what the best perks for X are.

>>48790466
See >>48790458
Lots of people here ignore 'em, don't worry.

Anyway, as far as "What's best", you check out the perk text and read the series they're from, if you just want the best of the best, you'll have to do some research.

>>48790294
I generally use a limited version of diminishing returns, where any effect that provides a flat boost to another is maybe 25-50% strength, but new effect is at full strength. So as an example, if I have Gift of the Thousand Master and Power of Zeal, Gift is at full strength and Zeal is maybe half, except that Zeal's ability to master more powerful forms of magic is at full strength.

>>48790458
Without diminishing returns taking two 'genius' perks would turn you into a literal superintelligence.

>>48790597
The most common alternative is additive, not multiplicative.

>tfw I can't find good names for my companions
how do you guys do it?

>>48790512
I think the best starting setting for Supers is Arrowverse. There's a 600 CP "drawback" which will inflict a lot of mental suffering on you, but can't actually kill you and gives you almost an entire perk tree worth of brutal training.

>>48790603
yes. If you add on what the average high-tier intelligence perk gives you twice you would be much more intellect than any human.

>>48790614
behind the name, I pick a nationality that fits then randomly generate a name.

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>>48790620
>Stacking perks makes you stronger.
>Jumpers are stronger than regular humans.
Uh, so?

>>48790614
I tend to pick a nationality that it makes sense for my Companion to have names from, based on similarities from the setting they're in, then pick names I like from there. Or I think of a godawful pun. In my Kung Fu chain, I named my Blaziken after the German term for buffalo wings.

>>48790617
Are you a masochist or something? Damn, 5 years of suffering for 600CP is a bit dramatic, especially as a start of the journey.

>>48790628
There's a difference between being able to lift heavy stuff and literally transcending the human mind.

>>48790635
Are you still going to update the Fallout jump?

>>48790645
Most jumpers aren't even human, anon. One of the most popular alt forms is an alien superbeing composed of mind and will to shape a soul into an eldritch physical form.

>>48790617
Thanks for the suggestion, but I meant more thematically appropriate starting Jumps, like Pokemon, not more lucrative Jumps.
I'm considering Jack-Jack drawback and super kid in The Incredibles, that way I can grow into all this stuff.

>>48789458
It turns you into a Newtype.
Have fun UNDERSTANDING

>>48790663
Well if you want a starting jump that makes you a baby, Musoku Tensei or whatever also does that.

>>48790664
Nah, Newtypes aren't the next step in human evolution, they're just an environmental adaptation. If he's going to evolve he'd be more like a Coordinator. So it should be "Have fun being beamspam Jesus".

>>48790644
Little bit, maybe. It's more that just getting handed badassitude seems wrong to me. That level of suffering will make me earn my stripes.

>>48790614
Find one of those "Here's a list of half a billion obscure baby names for all your special snowflake parenting needs" websites then go wild.

>>48789458
I'd think it wouldn't do anything, the same as if you tried to buy it as a single stage Pokemon.

So, why is that other threads number wrong? Is he one of those people who insisted that those threads never happened?

>>48790670
Nah, I wasn't going for baby specifically, Incredibles just seemed like a more cartoonish and mild starting place, and that drawback happens to suit growing into my first set of powers.

>>48790654
Probably. Won't be any time soon, though. I still have to finish Strange Journey, and I have at least two or three other ideas I'd like to work on before I go back and rework an imaged Jump.

>>48790700
*those two

>>48790663
Arrowverse is thematic, though. There's an option to become a Metahuman, with a pretty reasonable selection of superpowers even if you ignore the ones which are purposely overpowered because the Jumpmaker is biased.

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Yo, where to next /JC?

>>48790723
Alright, I just don't like the idea of doing anything related to the Arrow tv show, it's so bad. (Flash is great though.)

>>48790644
To be fair, most-ish of these 5 years will be spent in Hong Kong, Coast City and Russia. So that's not so bad.

>>48790738
god of war

>>48790740
Yeah, but you could also take the opportunity to fix it. Like going with the Genius background to be ATOM and also keep Oliver from ever needing to consult with Felicity.

Jesus, I've never seen a character go from great to horrible so fast.

>>48790738
Hive Queen

What jumps have the best generic companion options?

>>48790780
Most of Red's Jumps, especially Resident Evil.

>>48790780
The first that comes to mind? Overlord and Skullgirls.

>>48790620
So? Diminishing returns means you just need to take 3 or 4 high tier intelligence perks instead of 2 to get that same effect. Or just pick 1 such intelligence perk that makes you better hten human anyway.

>>48790780
40k and both of the Overlords

>>48790795
I generally assume any perks which raise you up to peak human can never make you superhuman, no matter how many you stack. At best they'll give you more "breadth", like how Angels in Good Omens are depicted.

I need some help thinking up a Stand. Anyone willing to help?

>>48789236
What's a good jump for an early perfect memory perk?

>>48790822
KOTOR literally gives it away

>>48790820
What's your favorite rock song?

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Rolled 1 (1d8)

>>48790754
Alright! Rolling for Location!

>>48790825
Looking at it agian, you're right! Guess I know which jump I'm taking next!

>>48790820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Y0ipRnyPM

>>48790834
I, sadly, am an uncultured swine and either don't listen to rock or I don't know that the song's genre is rock. I just listen to whatever sounds good.

I'd prefer to stick to a theme though and found a good name for Stand: Hybrid Theory

I'm having a hard time establishing its capabilities and limitations which goes further into issues with Awakened and Requiem

I like mixing stuff. Giving a thing traits or parts of another thing

>>48790856
>>48790834
>>48790859

Yes I am aware of whose album Hybrid Theory is. The name itself is good.

and everyone feels an edgy need for edge sometimes, even ironically, no?

>>48790859
Your stand combines two things, keeping the traits of both. That's a perfectly fine power, there's shit like turning everybody into dinosaurs out there.

With Awakened and Requiem, one of them could refine your ability (as in, combine more than two or let you combine only the traits you want from things) and the other could give it a new ability (like splitting one thing into two with half of its traits)

>>48790871
call it papercut and make it control paper

>>48790820
King Missile, it gives you a detachable penis.

>>48790876
So it's basic power would be combining without choice on what is kept, or limited control over that, while the "trait" granting lets me not need to fuse two whole things but just traits/pieces?

Hm. Should it be limited to organic or such, with higher range of things later?

Should there be a limit to whether or not I can fuse a fused thing with something else again?

>>48790905
Cut it entirely based on your taste for balance, anon. Personally I wouldn't restrict it to organics (maybe make it touch ranged though) and would only let you combine things once, but that's me.

>>48790886
Naw, Papercut would be name of its ability in Awakening or something. Requiring access to a living creature's blood to work it's stuff or just requiring a small bit of a thing to combine it with another, for a more imperfect result

>>48790876
So it would be that wall from Jojolion?

>>48790935
Haven't read Jojolion. I wait for things to end before I dive into them.

>>48790819
You're not even doing diminishing returns then. You're just not doing stacking at all, which is something pretty much no side ever did.

>>48790944
Well, I only do that for perks which limit you to peak human. I also don't take those perks more than once unless they offer something new, like athletic ability or knowledge skills.

What would be a fitting power for a stand named Panic Station?

>>48791048
Fear empowerment

>>48791048
Anyone with a certain area gets the intense feeling of panic and fear, preventing them from thinking logically and fighting against their own fight or flight response.

>>48791048
a phantasmal train that induce fear in your enemies

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>>48789791
Ok I'm actually a really big fan of the Dahak series so let me lay out the cheat plan for the gauntlet mode.

Keep in mind you still can have the descendant of the bridge crew which I would say is vital for this gauntlet. With that you can be the captain of the Dahak and even the Emperor. This gives you access to a tech base that can do the job, the main issue is that you need manpower but with that time and resources a jumper should be able to make a army to pilot this stuff with Terminators, Boomers, Manhunters, or some robot design. Although the AIs pretty much can run most of this stuff on autopilot. Its just more effective with a crew.

Granted this gauntlet is tailor made for a tech oriented jumper like me. But not counting superpowers that count all you would need is some sort of labor force design and the bridge crew peak, and with the time you have it should actually be fairely doable for a even a younger jumper.

>>48791108
Are you still working on Pathfinder? I was really looking forward to that.

>>48791194
No I kinda burned out on it and a new anon wanted to try their hand at it so I let them. I still have all of my notes and could return to it. But hopefully that other anon is working on their version.

>>48791199
>burned out on it
Thank god.

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> Wake up
> Check thread

S'bout right.

Anyway, going to finish Boktai today. Get hype. Or don't. I'm honestly just happ to be finished with it.

>>48791220
So how are your jumps coming along?

>>48791228
yer mum finished me last night

>>48791244
Not making them. Which somehow still makes me a better jump maker then you. I guess spewing out garbage purposefully intended to be bad so as to mess with the thread is actually worse then just not making anything.

>>48791284
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will come true one of these days. But it won't.

>>48791228
Glorious sunlight awaits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlSe43h3wTs

>>48791310
Please don't feed the troll.

>>48791324
Why are you feeding the troll?

Ok, the previous discussions have inspired me to finally make a stand for my jump chain.

Tomorrow The World:
Power - C
Speed - A
Range - B
Durability - C
Precision - B
Potential - A

Able to link the properties of non organic material within 50 metres, like giving a shirt the durability of steel.

Awakened: Able to change the state of non organic matter, turning air into a solid etc

Requiem: Freely reshape non organic matter, (basically alchemy from Fullmetal Alchemist but has a range of 50 metres instead of touch)

Sound reasonable?

>>48791324
Just a little fun, don't worry I was letting the matter go.

Lot of Stand talk, so I'll add to it with a question. Coming from someone who has never seen JoJo and doesn't know what a stand is, what can it do? Like, can it give telekinesis? Supernatural charisma? Does it have to related to its user's personality or anything?

>>48791228
I've actually got some questions I want to ask about the Boktai pastebin, if you're still here.

Dark Child mentions that it comes with a weakness to Sol, but Hybrid is a required perk to take it and also gives you a weakness to Sol. Does it make your vulnerability worse, or is it just reminding you that you have that weakness?

If you use the Luna Lens on the Sol De Vice, is all of the force of your strike converted to stun, or does physical part of the weapon still do damage? For example, if I punch someone is the face with the Luna Lens, does it "just" stun them, or does it also do some damage since my fist still has mass and speed, as opposed to just the luna energy you'd get from a solar gun?

How big is the explosion from using incompatible gun parts? I'm asking because I'm wondering if doing so purposely to cause a solar-energy explosion might work as a desperate last resort.

Also, as a moderately silly request, could we get some kind of 0 CP Mega Man Battle Network crossover option?

>>48791385
In order, yeah it's just a reminder on the vulnerability. It doesn't get worse from taking that.

Either or, and it's up to you what version you end up using when using Luna like that.

Enough to blow a human hand off, sort of like a misfired firework. The explosion becomes worse if you had grenades loaded, for obvious reasons.

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten to include that. MMBN minor crossover drawback will be a go.

>>48791368
>>what a stand is?

they area spiritual Constructs from your Soul via fighting spirit.

>>what can it do?

Lots of things up to and including conceptual Bullcrap,one was a fishing Rad that unerringly
hooked into an opponent's heart regardless of what armor they were wearing or how far away they were, another was "fuck causality"

>>give telekinesis?
probably

>>Supernatural charisma?
More likely a charm power That only happens in specific circumstances, half of a fight between Stand users is figuring out the other guys stand, so make it complicated.

>>Does it have to related to its user's personality or anything?

Evil people With far-reaching Objectives have the most powerful stands of all.

>>48791368
I made mine a copy of the world

>>48791429
Thanks for answering.

I'm a little disappointed I can't defeat a giant immortal by just throwing my mismatched gun down it's throat, but I guess I could achieve roughly the same effect with a large amount of grenades, or trying to shoot the Rising Sun down there instead.

>>48791488
wait what

>>48791495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpenBxTpH-M

>>48791513
Wait, stands let people ignore getting stabbed in the brain?

>>48791757
Look carefully, he used the knives to pin books to him. They probably penetrated only shallowly, the knife is unlikely to have even pierced all the way though his skull.

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God of War Jump 037:
CP: 1000
Drawback:
Boxed In [+300]
Location: Athens
Background: Drop-In [Free]
Perks:
Epic Poem [Free]
Scowl of Sparta [Free]
Deft Hands [Free]
Puzzled Sensing [-100]
Political Standing [-200]
Gift of Hope [-300]
Finders, Keepers [-300]
Gear:
Olympian Demesne [-50]
Guard of the Lion [Free]

Custom Weapon [500]
Forged by the Gods [Free]
Trying Something New (Stygian Iron .45 Longslide) [-50]
Master [-200]
Cursed [-200]
Eternal [-50]

Beginning of a Legend [-200]
(___) (Divinity) [300]
Perks:
Resplendent Form [Free]
Empathic Environment [-300]
Items:
Eyes of Thunder [Free]

Silica (Peasent) [300]
Perks:
Steady Weather [Free]
Forge of Souls [-300]
Items:
Schematics of the Genius [Free]

Gauntlet's Symbiote (Divinity) [300]
Perks:
Resplendent Monument [Free]
Empathic Environment [-300]
Items:
Eyes of Thunder [Free]

(___)'s Symbiote (Divinity) [300]
Perks:
Resplendent Monument [Free]
Empathic Environment [-300]
Items:
Eyes of Thunder [Free]

AFG: Airfield Princess (Spartan) [300]
Perks:
Fire-Forged Friends [Free]
Blood Feeding [-300]
Items:
Helm of the Underworld [Free]

DFG: Max Schultz (Spartan) [300]
Perks:
Fire-Forged Friends [Free]
Blood Feeding [-300]
Items:
Helm of the Underworld [Free]

DFG: Fletcher (Spartan) [300]
Perks:
Fire-Forged Friends [Free]
Blood Feeding [-300]
Items:
Helm of the Underworld [Free]

The Marked Ninja (Monster) [300]
Perks:
Monstrous Weapons [Free]
Divine Beast [-300]
Items:
Coin of the Messenger [Free]

>>48791757
People with Stands are tough as shit. Or that might just be hot-blooded shonen willpower.

What's the safest path to start copying multiple genetic powers?

Is the Zerg jump dangerous? Should I expect to have to fight off a battlefleet or something as a Primal Zerg?

>>48791841
>Is the Zerg jump dangerous?
Yes.

>Should I expect to have to fight off a battlefleet or something as a Primal Zerg?
No, but you start on Darwin's Vore Wonderland. There will be things wanting to eat you every hour of every day. The plus side is that you start near the top of the food chain, so you'll only have to really worry about your peers: the other Primes.

The drawbacks ramp the difficulty significantly.

All said, though, it can be taken as an early jump if you aren't too greedy. The problem is that there's tons of great stuff in the jump and it's hard not to go nuts.

>>48791757
Dio use'd his Stand to put books underJojo's clothing before the blades could penetrate deeply
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/The_World
>>48791841
>>Is the Zerg jump dangerous?
depends how far you are past Semi realistic biology, because yes you should expect to do those things

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Man I loved just about everything David Weber made except for Honor Harrington, I don't know it was always his least interesting setting imho. What I wouldn't give for him to expand the Apocalypse Troll setting or Furies.

Thanks for the jump, I love me some Dahak.

What supernatural martial arts can we teach to others other than Bending with the scrolls?

>>48791798
>Silica (Peasent) [300]
Silica is a popular companion name isn't it?


Also wtf is with the captcha today I had to restart the browser just to make it work and it finally took me to a captcha where I had to copy paste a massive link. Wtf.

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Jumpers! What companions have you worked hard to get?

>>48791876
>>48791757

No. Jotaro put the books underneath his clothing because he wanted to have some measure of defense against DIO because at that point when he did it, they didn't know what to expect

>>48791935
Kung fu hustle has martial arts kung fu scrolls. Things like jumping off an eagle to slam giant palm shaped ki blasts that can take out entire buildings. Or screams loud enough to destroy pavement. There is also the xither martialmart there where you play music that causes air swords and ghosts to attack your enemy

>>48791935
You can teach other types of bending to people if you got scrolls?

Like, if I had scroll about water bending, could I teach an airbender to waterbend?

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>>48791945
The best giant white girl

>>48791935
Ripple from Jojo.

>>48791876
Bancho is what we learn from Jumper sensei from PS238 teachable?

>>48791966
No youncan only teach people outside of avatar 1 bending stylem

>>48791987
>>48791988
So what would possible synergies be between Hamon and different bendings?

Hey manyfist I have a question about assassination classroom.


>Actually Teaching (300cp, Discount Sensei) - You have an odd ability to actually teach really well. You can teach any ability you know to the likes of even Class 3-E. What's so odd about it is the way you can go about it and still pass on the knowledge. For instance Korosensei is able to teach lessons to individual students through assassination attempts. Bitch-Sensei teaches English by teaching seduction and lying skills. You have a similar method, perhaps you can teach someone to throw a fireball by having the student catch it with their bare hands. The methods you use are unorthodox and up to you how you achieve it.


What can we actually teach with this? What are its limits?

>>48792034
Hamon is sun powered right? Anything that has or boosts sun would benefit firebending.

>>48792034
Hamon uses breathing and solar energy... And firebending uses the exact same two things. Your firebending would probably get a pretty good boost from it.

Waterbending is also good with Hamon, mostly because you can channel Hamon through the water.

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Jumpers, what do you do in that moments when you have really nothing to do?

Hey, speaking of the Zerg Jump, does anyone have that? It doesn't look like it's on the drive for some reason.

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>>48791945
Best team.
I had a devil of a time convincing them that yes, ?I really was a multiversal traveler and yes, they could come with me without splitting up. Especially since I didn't have anything in the way of flashy abilities or anything. In the end, it was a case of "Why not believe me? The worst thing that could happen is that I'm lying and nothing changes. In which case...nothing changes"

>>48792142
Write a book.

>>48791798
technically yes, but how usually that is done depends on how much Ki and how far above human limitations that martial art would make you,the kung fu hustle level stuff would be a entire martial arts career to master from childhood, and this is not even factoring things like chi flow and reserves,their Natural ability to Perform martial arts, fighting spirit etc. and of course if you try to teach it to someone who doesn't have the Mystic energy such as worm humans the results are not going to be As impressive,it still technically Work as a martial art, but the supernatural parts will not be there, or rather they Will not function It's is The difference between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKX7v6d4C0

>>48792142
I play a game of "Who can cure this terrible disease faster, the scientists, or Jumper the Magician?"
Hint: I always win. One time, I waited until they nearly had the cure for Cancer to reveal that I had already cured it two years ago.

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>>48792142
Watch movies, cook, play vidya, go to an amusement park, go hiking

I guess I could take a nap

>>48792142
The Wifu

>>48791987
sorry>>48792167 is in response to you

Kidd Radd with Gotterdammerung seems like a quick jump as long as you can destroy a planet. Is it difficult to escape the computer?

>>48792142
Practice katas, go incognito after turning off all my powers, socialize with some ordinary people in-setting...or just take a nap in the Warehouse. It's comfy.

>>48792161
Imaged folder. Ancilla Anon / NanohAnon imaged it with permission.

>>48792204
And he didn't even try to change it to help his build. What a great guy!

>>48792204
Ah, okay.

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>>48791945
Yuuka Kazami
A good friend, great fighter, and amazing baker

>>48792240
Please refrain from using my posts to springboard into your grudges.

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>>48792301

>>48792240
What's this about?

>>48792406
Don't respond to him. He just wants to jerk his hateboner some more.

>>48789362
So, when it says spaceships are unavailable for the drawback/scenario... Does that mean they're just gone entirely for the duration, or can I still chill in my ship as long as it stays its my warehouse attachment?

Mostly asking because my flagship comprises a good part of my manufactoring facilities, and is usually used as housing for most of my companions.


Speaking of... What happens if I /am/ a spaceship? I got a Transformers altform that's a FTL-capable ship after all.

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>>48792142
Hang out in my private study and do magical research while listening to music and snacking on whatever comes out of SCP-261 and SCP-294. Maybe write a couple of theses. If I'm really bored I'll head to Ahnenerbe and spend some time serving food and cocktails from across the multiverse while chatting with interesting people from the various universes I've jumped.

>>48792142
Take a nap. Laze about. Play videogames. Waifus. Possibly all at once.

>>48789362
So, you can't use out-of-jump spaceships, but can you build them if you know how?

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>>48792449
You're unavailable for the jump. Things get progressively stranger from there.

What jumps are people working on? What jumps would you like you to see made or are thinking of making? I'm considering making a Black Summer jump, but I don't think there's quite enough material.

>>48792595
What is Black Summer?

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Rome ver. .97

Changelog:
>Numerous spelling and grammar errors helpfully pointed out last night
>Percussive Sobriety updated: you can both give and recieve

Thanks to the anon that assited last night by pointing out those errors. The version on the drive does not have the Gaul drawback that extends your stay there, but that was pointed out last night. I've uploaded this version to the GDrive.

>>48792595
For me:
> Boktai is nearing completion
> Disgaea will be made immediately after. Will include scenario involving founding and running your own Netherworld. Will cover 1 and D2. It's still up in the air if I'm covering 2-4, but that's the plan so far.
> Tales of Phantasia will be after. Will include things like a continuity drawback for Tales of Symphonia for those who wonder how deep the butterfly goes.

I sincerely have no idea if I'm making more jumps after that. I don't think I've done much of anything groundbreaking, but I've had fun with the finished products so far.

>>48789362
>>48789362
so What Category does sufficiently advanced stuff like the mother box fall in? on one hand it's basically a computer, on the other hand it uses God as a battery. and does Unable to take magic items out of the warehouse mean that you can still use them inside the warehouse?

>>48792597
An edgy Warren Ellis book about a Superhero who murders the President for 'Justice', and how his friends have to deal with the fallout of his dumbassery. All of the superpowers are the result of cybernetic enhancements stemming from a secret government program.

>>48792607
>Percussive Sobriety updated: you can both give and recieve
Giggity.

>>48792595
The Avengers: EMH; finished the Powers, just need items. In particular, a good 600 CP items for Agents/"Fighting" origin and one 100 CP item for Drop Ins.

>>48792595
The Camp Camp jump will be a blast to make once the series end. I can already feel the inspiration return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGAswTnJgkc

>>48792613
To be honest, I love your jumps Heavens. I do have a couple of questions, though. Firstly, does the Tree of Darkness actually dim or even blot out the sunlight in an area if I stay there long enough? If I stayed in New York for a year or two, could the undead come out 24/7? Also, this isn't really a question, but would you mind having the drawback limit be 800cp? I don't how else I'm going to afford everything I want otherwise.

>>48792717
I'm glad you do, anon. As for your questions, it starts out dimming the area and becomes increasingly obvious the longer its present, until it's basically 'night time forever' in that area. Combine that with enough people and things being killed by Dark Matter and you've got a localized Undeadening without fear of the sun. Until someone figures that out, anyhow, so be diligent.

Drawback limit will be 800-1000. I haven't decided yet, but this jump kind of turned into a tax monster, so it's pretty necessary.

Whatever happened to that guy who was doing a cowboy native jumper?

>>48792142
Make puzzles and toys.

>>48792509
>snacking on whatever comes out of SCP-261
Do you test it for poisons first, or do you just rely on Jumper!Constitution?

>>48792791
He got a name and a trip, talked about it for months, then after causing a bunch of drama, to include trying to make rulings on other peoples jumps, he dropped the project.

>>48792595
Cirque du Freak and Demonata
I'm still alive, I'm just rereading the books.

>>48792781
Thanks Heavens-
>800-1000
Mein gott, that would be amazing.

How's the Transistor jump coming along?

>>48792607
Any chance we can get you to add the normal numbers to the CP costs?
Roman numerals are an ass and a half, man.
Come on.

>>48792874
This is your life now.

>>48792874
>He doesnt ROMA

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>>48792874
Pleb!

>>48792874
It would be a lot simpler to do this then requiring everyone to have to convert everything. At least have 2 versions, one with roman numerals, the other with regular numbers.

>>48792912
>>48792919
Roman empire fell. Those numeral didn't do shit to help them.

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>>48792874
>plebs

>>48792976
>Mocking others for being unable to read their bullshit numbers.
>Had a literal horse as a senator.
okay

>>48792851
...I'm pretty sure that guy wasn't ParanoidAnon, if that's who you're referring to.

>>48792874
>>48792962
>>48792973
>>48792976
ANTIQUIS TEMPORIBUS, NATI TIBI IN RUPIBUS VENTOSISSIMIS EXPONEBANTUR AD NECEM.

>>48793007
>Had a literal horse as a senator.
He probably passed less stupid and illegal laws than obama. I would vote for a horse over the current US candidates.

>>48793050
I would argue with you but honestly, you're right.

Mister Ed for 2016.

>>48792657
That version of Wasp had best design

Honestly, I just wish the Barbarian section was free of the Roman numerals.

>>48793080
Pffft. With the way Pokemon Go is trending, Ponyta would be a shoe-in.

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>>48793050

>>48793093
>Implying the barbarians of those days had a writing system

>>48792657
Here's the 600 CP items for the other origins, for reference:

Artificial Cosmic Cube- A failed attempt at creating a Cosmic Cube; unfortunately, not a shred of power that went into creating this cube remains. However, the potential for power is still there. Essentially, this cube is a currently empty, unlimited, battery. While it is empty now you can keep charging it with power for as long as you have power to supply it with. (600 CP, discount Drop In)

Lab Samples- You have a replenishing supply (50 pounds every 10 years) of either Uru, Adamantium (in a molten form), or Vibranium, and a small (less than a pound of material), non-replenishing supply of whichever materials you didn’t choose to study or use as you will. (600 CP, discount Scientist)

Artificial Cosmic Control Rod- Not the actual Cosmic Control Rod, as wielded by Annihilus; this rod instead allows you to imbue your creations with a hive mind, which you can then control using the rod. The closer your creations are to each other in terms of construction, the easier they are to control in tandem; purely biological beings can be controlled pretty easily, even if they’re of a different “species”; biological beings and cyborgs would be harder, while biological creatures and robots would be nearly impossible. In the same way, controlling only robots is easy as well. The area you can control your creations in clocks in at around the area of a small city. Using the rod is surprisingly easy for you, and while you won’t be a natural at first you’ll quickly get a hang of it. (600 CP, discount Villain)

And the 100 CP items are basically an ID that can be used to bluff your way into organizations, a set of degrees that update as you gain knowledge and is accepted regardless of whether or not you have a history in a world, and basically a Doombot that's indistinguishable from you but has no powers at all.

>>48793113
They didn't need their own writing system, they'd looted the Greek one. But that's beside the point, they could at least be free of Rome in the pricing scheme.

>>48792791
Pretty sure he just died somewhere, ending his chain.

Sad though, cowboy jumper was pretty amusing.

>>48793197
All the themed jumpers seem to have died.

>>48793182
>a currently empty, unlimited, battery. While it is empty now you can keep charging it with power for as long as you have power to supply it with.
>Leaky Limiter
>This
Oh happy days.

>indistinguishable from you but has no powers at all.
So, uh, how does that work with things like appearance perks, monstrous alt forms and the like?

>>48793113
They did
Plus, pretty much Every culture had signs for numbers, even without letters
You dumb nigger

[Interlude]

-Warehouse-
Local Net (-30CP)
ForceWall (-20CP)
Shelving (Free)
Terminal (-10CP)
Portal (-30CP)
Link (-30CP)
Robots (-20CP)
Food Supply (-10CP)

Because at some point, i'm going to want an impenetrable fort to retreat to for a few weeks.

-Body Mod-
Build: Medium
Body Type: Charmer (-100)
Stats: Appeal 2 (Free), Shape 2 (Free) Strength 2 (-100) Endurance 1 (-50) Dexterity 3 (-150) Speed 1 (-100)
Perks: Metavore (-100) Endowed x3 (Free)

Because I like being the most beautiful person in the room.

>>48793182
Do you need 600cp items for both Agents and "Fighting" origins, or are those the same?

>>48793234
So you want their prices written in runes?

>>48792851
>shitposting this hard to label other people as ParanoidAnon

Dude.

>>48792521
Yes, you can.
>>48792449
They stay in their attachment.

You can't take that altform for the duration of this jump.

>>48793182
Do you have a theme for the drop-in origin? It's somewhat difficult to give you suggestions if we don't know what you're going for...

>>48793210
Bartender jumper is still alive! I think spider jumper is too.

>>48792831
I have Quantum Evolution from Worm, Omega-level Healing Factor from XMCU, and a couple of "Get Out of Death Free" cards.

So it's more interesting to just eat it and see what happens.

>>48793283
Does the same apply for companions who have spaceship altforms? And if you have, say, a spaceship that doubles as a plane or a boat, would using it for exlusively in-atmosphere stuff work?

>>48793283
Can you take things made from within the attachment out of the attachment? Like say I imported my Sajuuk as an ACU: could I still use the manufactured army?

>>48793299
Someone was also trying to make a Tailor build.

>>48793030
Pretty sure he was talking about you.

>>48789284
FMA The Truth,

>*Claps Hands*
>This Wall's Getting!
>*Rumble in the Earth*
>TEN FEET HIGHER!
>Colossal Wall Rockets out of the ground
>A Crying Native American is seen in the distance.

Okay, so for the purposes of the "Darling of Divinity" perk, who is the LEAST horrible Greco-Roman deity to have my name associated with?

'Cause most of them are dicks.

>>48793182
1. The first Spoiler is 200CP in bastion,
2. This one is actually something I'm getting an worth the price.
3.now Could you replicate this item and have one set to your Zurg swarm and the other set to your killer robots?

>>48793328
Yup.

>>48793320
Sure. The purpose of that drawback is to require you to build everything you use in-universe, however that may come to be. If you're building it in-universe, however it may be, it's available to you.

>>48793182
Who's fighting based on? Is it more akin to a warrior or an MMA fighter?

How do magic system perks work?

If I take nonverbal magic in Harry Potter, does that apply to, say, Mushoku Tensei or Dresden magic?

>>48793182
Shit, I want both the Drop In and Scientist capstones. This jump is going to hurt.

>>48793353
Hestia and Hades are good choices.

>>48793353
For the Greeks side, Hades. Hephaestus if Hades doesn't work for you for some reason.
Or Prometheus, if you have a wide enough definition of diety.
For the Romans, afaik there's a lot less terribleness, and a lot more options.

>>48793182
For Agents, could you just do a Helicarrier that retains modifications?

>>48793391
For that specific perk, CCDT said that if non-verbal magic was possible in-setting, then you would git gud at it.

For others, usually they apply equally.

>>48793222
I'm limiting it to around human height, so anything above 10-feet is a no-go. Appearance perks would transfer over, since it's meant to be a perfect copy.

>>48793244
Just one item for Agents; I kinda worded that awkwardly. I was thinking about making the item a Helicarrier or something.

>>48793292
Drop In is loosely based off of the X-Men and Spider-Man; their perkline is based around mastering their powers, teaching others, and then the standard hero traits of being pretty, being clever and snarky, keeping their identity secret, and being able to push their powers slightly past their normal limits when in great danger/to save lives.

>>48793354
1. OK.
3. I don't see why not. Might be difficult if you only have two hands/arms though.

>>48793383
More warrior. Like Thor, Black Panther, Captain America, and Hawkeye.

>>48793396
And those are just the items; each Origin has two 600 CP capstone skills/perks as well as a few discounted powers. Races too.

>>48793405
I think I might end up going with that.

>>48793328
Funny, I never did a cowboy native jumper.

>>48793363
See above. Stay on topic please.

>>48793283
>They stay in their attachment.
Okay, cool. Thanks.

Building my own ships isn't really the problem, because I'm pretty sure I can build one in a week with a paperclip and piece of string... But all my stuff is in there, so being able to walk in is nice.

>You can't take that altform for the duration of this jump.
That's fair, I suppose. Guess I need to build some quantum gates if I want to move people. Atleast I can still fly around on my own.

It's actually kinda funny. This scenario takes away a bunch of magic stuff I rely on for convenience... but my most bullshit stuff is based on hypertech and such.


Do psionics fall under magic, or not? I'd assume not, but...

>>48793450
You could maybe do an updating "Dummy's Guide" for powers? Just like a manual that tells you how to keep them under control, and maybe some basic uses.

>>48793487
Didn't he say something like "if the perk/item specifically mentioned magic, it's banned"?

>>48793450
A super suit that looks good, is comfortable, and generally comes out of conflict with relatively minor wear?

What're some jumps that allow for some sick car chases?

>>48793520
No, he said if it's considered magic by current earth standards it's banned.
Which likely includes a bunch of tech in the actual jump, so...

>>48793487
They don't. Like again. Legilimency is also, arguably psionics. That won't work. But other means will.

Again, there's not much to overanalyze in this. If it's magic, it fails, otherwise it works.

>>48793556
What if it's called magic in-setting, but isn't?

>>48793528
But is it machine-washable?

>>48793450
>>1. OK

by that I'm saying you do something else with That, maybe have it be a existing Cosmic Cube That needs charging,or a "build your own" , Cosmic Cube that could output massive amounts of Whatever kind of energy you first put into it forever, also those things have a tendency to ascend so you Add a note that this one will not gain sapience.

>>48793610
Only if the machine is firing water blasts at you.

>>48793608
Please, for your own sake if no-one else's, just stop.

>>48793594
It...works? Did you miss it when I said that it applies on things that we, here on the world all jumpers depart from, popularly regard as magic?

>>48793649
If the MCU's stance on "magic" is anything to go by, that's not so cut and dry.

Which Jump has the cheapest perfect teleportation?
Also is there a Jump for the film "Jumper"?

>>48793691
Harry Potter

>>48793674
Red needs to stop being so ansty and put her foot down. Is it magic? Is it not magic? Stop being so cowardly and make a ruling.

>>48793594
How about you just make your best guess? I mean, there are over 600 jumps on the drive. You cannot reasonable expect a jump maker to account for all combinations. Just read the perk, drawback, or item and make a good-faith guess. No one is going to check your work, and odds are you aren't going to post your chain or your jump in thread.

>>48793691
You can get it in Raildex for free.

>>48793706
>splicing, increased difficulty, and disorientation aren't a thing

That is by no means "perfect" teleportation.

>>48793753
>You cannot reasonable expect a jump maker to account for all combinations.
Yes you can.

>>48793803
Yeah, you can totally expect that. And when you do, you show that you're a retard for doing so.

>>48793741
>Make a ruling so that I can shit on them because I disagree with the ruling no matter what they say.

>>48793753
He's just poking you until you do away with any rules. He's got autism and nothing to do.

>>48793741
Antired, you didn't even read the comments did you. You ignorant ass little bitch.

How's Red gonna make a 'ruling' on the fuckin' setting itself? She's not Whedon.

You need to try harder, mang. I'm not even mad. I'm just laughin' at your dumb ass.
God damn, does it hurt to be that stupid?

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>>48793818
Your statement is the most correct one in this whole thread

>>48793753
Thank you. Really, thank you.
>>48793803
Not this maker.

I've entertained this long enough, methinks. Going to work on the drawbacks now.

Feel free to ask me about anything apart from Heir of Empire. And not changing a word about it. Deal with it.

>>48793706
>>48793775
Yeah, Harry Potter teleportation is weak shit. I was looking for instantaneous, extremely far, not requiring visual reference or previously being there, complete safety from telefragging, no exhaustion or nausea, and maybe enough control for only teleporting parts of something, or bringing other things with you.
Not really feeling a Raildex Jump, got anything in a superpowers setting?

>>48793507
That's a pretty nice idea. Like general tips for basic ones that are common and then more specialized ones for powers that the Jumper has, in particular?

>>48793528
There's going to be a small section under Items for customizing armor and weapons, so that would be a good thing to add to there.

>>48793631
I feel like my idea is more in line with the other items, though. Both of your ideas are vastly more powerful than the other capstone items.

>>48793870
>I was looking for instantaneous, extremely far, not requiring visual reference or previously being there, complete safety from telefragging, no exhaustion or nausea, and maybe enough control for only teleporting parts of something, or bringing other things with you.
You want a free blowjob with that?
God damn, son, prioritize your wish list.

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>>48792142
SCIENCE!

If on the rare occasion I'm bored of SCIENCE!, hedonistic mega-corporation CEO shit.