Don't mind me just the worst Primarch coming through

Not enough wolves to be accurate.

>>48751976
Go to bed Magnus.

>>48751988
I did nothing wrong.

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>>48751478
That picture is too red and has too many eyes to be the worst primarch

>>48752008
>>48751976
Daily reminder Magnus is objectively the worst primarch

Perturabo, Angron, Lorgar, Russ are all terrible.

>>48753135
Don't forget Konrad. He's also trash-tier.

>>48751478
Wrong every single Primarch was horrible in their own ways.

All Primarchs are shit and irrelevant, same as the Emprah.

Thousand sons are best legion.
Magnus is the worst primarch
You cant explain that.

>>48754170
Fulgrim and EC though

Oh for fuck's sake, I thought this trend'd finaly died and you just had to go and necromance it back.

Sage this shit, sage it to oblivion.

>>48751478
Funny picture of Edge Lord Cruze you've got there

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hey roboute

>>48751478
DELET THIS

>>48755369

dis picture is funny

>>48751478
That's not fulgrim.

>>48755369
This is my favorite pepe now.

>>48756794
Why is Fulgrim so bad?

>>48752284
Magnus was betrayed by Leman "wolf wolf ice wolf fang wolf wolf wolf" Russ and his band of furries. He wouldn't have fallen otherwise

>>48751976
Russ at least stayed loyal

>>48754168
>>48754989
t. taufag


>>48755327
Curze was born with a mental disorder though, it wasn't his own fault.


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LORGAR WAS WORST PRIMARCH: DEBATE ME
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Jagathai worst because he barely exists

>>48755369
Is there any more like this

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>>48751478

>>48762237
That horus heresy book featuring the White Scars made Jaghatai look like a pretty cool guy.

>>48762855
Haven't read them, so I wouldn't know

>>48751478
That's not Corvus Corax.

>Dem evil oppressing terran born marines.
>Iz gonna send dem all to die for liberty n sheeit

He also acted like a bitch at the battle of gate forty-two.

>>48755369
Make one with Perturabo and Rogal Dorn for the Iron Cage.

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>>48751478
Sigma?

>>48753153
>>48755327
Please get raped with a chainsaw.

>>48762795
>mfw someone using my picture
>mfw no face

>>48759900
Fulgrim was worse. No other Primarch at least converted to Slaanesh and got raped by his legionaries with a pear. Also his reasons for converting were pretty stupid.

>>48763381
This. Fuck Corax.

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>>48751478
Mortarion has my vote.

>Force my legion to inhale poison and use rusty wargear.

Death Guard were stinky and ghetto before the Heresy even began.

>>48765737
>>48766392
I'm just not convinced screwing over your own legion is comparable to being the guy that plunged the Imperium into chaos.
+1 vote for Lorgar!

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>>48751478
>[Decimates]

>>48751478
And yet was one of the most successful.

Wanted to deify the Emperor and have him worshiped across the entire Imperium. Mission accomplished.

The Imperial Creed is based on his writings.

The rank of Chaplain is now found through vast majority of chapters.

Proven right in that faith is a great unifying power that binds mankind in mutual goodwill.

Then he found other truer gods and wanted to show others the Good News. Which he also accomplished.

So all in all he did pretty well compared to many of his brothers.

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>>48754069
DELET THIS

>>48771601
If he's trying to imply that THE greatest martyr in the Imperium is the worst Primarch... Ooooh boy is he in fer a good scrap!

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Lorgar is favourite Primarch.
I dont know why.

>>48751478
Right, on your way then

>>48772014
because he was the only one who succeeded in everything he did

literally best boy

>>48759900
>Implying Magnus could have ever escaped from the whims of Tzeencth
>Implying letting daemons posses your men to teach them magic isn't the epitome of falling

Magnus was doomed, Russ was manipulated by his favorite brother, Tzeencth got a new toy

>>48771574
>The rank of Chaplain is now found through vast majority of chapters.
What does that ahve to do with Lorgar or religions? Chaplains were instituted by the Emperor to monitor loyalty to the Imperium and serve a largely nonreligious purpose

>>48763413
This.

>>48766392
The death guard geneseed could handle the poison and their wargear were simply weathered but fully functional, it's their way to show veterancy.

So your points are shit.

>>48772764
I thought that Lorgar first came up with Chaplains to inspire zealotry in his legion. Then the Emperor just took it and made it non religious.

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worst primarch coming through

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>>48776068
You're wrong, though. Chaplains are a pre-Lorgar thing.

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>>48776410

>>48771574
>>48772682
t. slave to chaos

>>48776410
>>48776570
But why

Worst: Lorgar
Best: Rupert Gilligan

>>48777503
Best clearly Sangy. Rowboat an insufferable cunt.

>>48751478
>Primordial Truth - actually the truth.
>"Imperial Truth" - a bunch of lies concocted by pair of scheming cucks, one of them a turk, the other likely a jew.

Lorgar was redpilled as fuck.

>>48777638
>>48777503
Horus was the best Primarch. He was the best brother, the best warrior/commander and the Emperors favorite son before the heresy. After the heresy it still took the fucking Emperor himself to kill Horus. Prove to me that Horus wasn't the best.

>>48778748
If Russ had been on the Vengeful Spirit he could have kicked Horus' ass easily. You know it's true.

>>48779339
Also, Russ was the most loyal primarch.
He was probably also the wisest. He understood the designs of the emperor and his place in them better than the others. There is a reason he was the emperor's personal tool to cull other legions.

>>48779416
Perturabo was more loyal. He divided his legion into smaller groups when it was Horus or the Emperor asked him. Russ wasn't loyal enough to do such a thing and kept his legion as one body throughout the great crusade.

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>>48779810
>Perturabo was more loyal.
Is that why he turned traitor?

>>48779966
He's so loyal that when he failed the Emperor he stop serving him. There's no higher example of loyalty then that.

>>48779339
You mean the Primarch that got his ass beat by two other primarchs? That Primarch, anon?

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>nobody calling my primaifu the worst
feels good

Best: Mortarion, Sanguinius, Vulkan, Russ
Worst: Khan, Magnus, Lorgar

fite me

>>48778130
t. Chaosfaggot

>>48751478
All the Primarchs suck.


They take after their father like that.

>>48783576
see >>48771601

>>48763623
Well he was corrupted by Laer. Though as to why he even picked up the sword was stupid.
>OOOooohhh... Pretty!
>I wanna swing it!

>>48771164
Autism aside, he was at par with the likes of Dorn and Girlyman. The worlds he made is hellenic as fuck. His deeds just went unoticed.
>Capture and subjugate a system considered bullshit in difficulty even by other primarchs
>What legion did it? people asked
>"the white scars i think"
>"White Scars" Main battle was at Space station
Poor Perts.

Jaghatai barely exists as a character, same with Angron, so I figure they qualify for worst ranking.

>>48785034
wrecks mortarion, wrecks the greatest keeper of secrets there is, delays the traitors for years, then somehow is waiting for them on terra, probably only beatable in a fight by angron, horus, and sanguinius.

khan is definitely not worst.

>>48785902
And through it all, never picked a side due to being a little bitch

>>48785034
The novels make him sound like he had the healthiest attitude towards the Warp and psychic powers. Totally ignored the edict against Librarians, too.

His was also one of the happiest legions to be a member of.

>>48772014
Because his books portrait him in a way that makes him likeable.

>>48771601
>mutated scum
>most pure

>>48772014
Because Lorgar is usually written by Demski-Bowden who is pretty good at giving his characters...well character.

>>48778748
Horus admitted that he and his brothers all knew Sanguinius was better.

>>48787690
Only better in his humanity really. Sanguinius was the more likely one to try and find a peaceful way out of all his brothers and was arguably the best at carrying the Emperors vision of a united Imperium as he always used conquering as the last resort (he wasn't the only one but was probably the one who tried longer to forge a peaceful solution).

>>48781305
Whose your primarch anon. I'm sure I can find a reason :^)

>>48782367
How is Mortarion among the bets? He threw a bitch fit when he couldn't fill his autistic compulsion to 'kill tyrants'
Similarly, how is Khan among the worst? He never did anything wrong except take a bit before agreeing to stay loyal

>>48776410
t. Robute

>>48789801
Mortarion got fucked over by complete circumstance. Sure he was edgy, but he did well with what he had. Yes he joined Horus, but that was a move because the weak citizens were getting a large say in the Imperium's government despite being inferior for the position. And he didn't suck the teat of chaos, Nurgle literally gassed him and his legion until he gave in. As a daemon primarch yeah, he sucks, but not as much as Magnus.

Khan couldn't make a fucking decision. He did little-nothing during the heresy other than 'uhh idk what side to pick'. Perturabo tried to turn him, and he made no decision. Then proceeded to sit around with this massive thumb up his primarch arse until even Magnus told him just to make a fucking decision, and even then he didn't. He only decided to stay loyal after the Heresy was practically over.

>Tl;Dr: Mortarion had little choice and made the best of it, Khan had all the choice and did nothing.

>>48776501
Not really, it's just saying that they were originally heralds not that they were chaplains. The heralds probably became the first chaplains at a later date, perhaps due to Lorgars orders.

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>>48790469
The WB naturally had several of these proto-Chaplains (I'm trying to avoid the word "Herald", fits better but it's now taken), but the first iteratio of the office itself was instituted on the Emperor's orders, as guardians and overseers.
However, both were the same thing: skull-helmeted black-clad (representing direct service to the Emperor rather than their legion) zealots who Placed the Great Crusade over everything else.

Not that it mattered to Lorgar and his legion, who went their own way.

>>48776410

IMPERIAL FISTS! THE HATED FOE!

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Mine lost his head, still better than all your faggots

>>48762923
He prefers to stay out of the shit his brothers love to throw at each other

>>48778748
>Prove to me that Horus wasn't the best.
he chose all the shitty legions to bring to his side

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>>48791901
Based as fuck.
Fact: Had the Emperor made all 20 primarchs a bunch of Ferruses, the heresy would have been prevented.

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>>48791961
I can argue with this.

>>48791901
Yeah, Ferrus was one of the best primarchs - had he and his legion not been rekt at the start, the Heresy would have gone a lot faster, and he was probably enough to tip the balance either way had he been able to fight for one side.

I can't wait until we finally get the last 5 primarchs statted and fleshed out by FW, then at least there'll be some new talking points for them and the legions

>>48791961
they would just fight against themself as soon as the galaxy was conquered

>>48751478
I actually quite like Lorgar, cool story, his legion on the other hand have the worst color scheme, emblem, and sorcerers.

Mortarion is the worst primarch, he was the master of bitching and moaning about stupid shit.

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>>48792076
>Implying you can run out of orks

>>48763413
I'd say make both of them That Feels Guy,

Mostly because Rogal Dorn for obvious reasons, but also because Perty isn't willing to destroy his own legion to destroy the Fists.

>tfw perturabo just wanted to build shit

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>>48794883
>Perty isn't willing to destroy his own legion to destroy the Fists.
Loyalists believe this. Nigga was but trolling them.

>>48771574
to aknowledge the existance of gods you dont need to worship them as well. It's twice as stupid to look for gods because you want to worship for the sake of worship. to say that he couldnt just get in line with what his 17 other brothers came to terms with is a joke.

>>48791941
he chose all the legions who had weaknesses he could exploit to make them his allies. they were a means to an end. Why would he be interested in equally strong allies that could threaten his position?

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>>48794979
Implying anything can stop the Fists besides mutually assured Destruction.

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>>48795106
Hence why he wasn't destroying them, but trolling them, disregard the fact they had to be saved by the Ultramarines.
Epic meme'd them so hard the Dark Gods made him a Daemon Prince and such.

>>48751478
Least to most Douchy Primarchs
Vulkan
Sanguinius
Magnus
Corvus Corax
Jaghatai
Horus
Ferrus Manus
Rogal Dorn
Roboute Guilliman
Alpharius Omegon
Lion El'Johnson
Fulgrim
Mortarion
Leman Russ
Angron
Perturabo
Konrad Curze
Lorgar

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>>48790052
Khan made his decision as soon as he found out that Horus was daemon-possessed, and made it clear to the legion as soon as he got back to his ship. He didn't really waste any time once he had intel.

After that, he hounded the traitor legions in fleet actions for four years, slowed them down and weakened them as much as he could. Then returned to Terra for the final defense. His was the only full legion fighting against the traitors outside of Ultramar during the early Heresy.

>>48795788
Have we seen more of Khan's sabre? I love it.
Unless it's drawn by Blanche.
The general shape of the blade reminds me of the 1796 light cavalry sabre, but there are several differences.

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>>48754069
>talking shit about my bird-bro

>>48780432
It just means that he valued his pride over his loyalty. That's prime chaos material right there.

>>48795534
>Dorn
>Less of a douche then Fulgrim

Fulgrim was one of the more friendly Primarchs pre-heresy. He was the only one who Curze actually considered a friend and confessed his visions of despair to. Meanwhile when Dorn learned about he goes full autist and insults Curze as a traitor for seeing visions of a bad imperium. Pre heresy Fulgrim was an angel compared to Dorn.

>>48795788
Exactly. He was too much of a pussy and couldnt commit to either side. The fact that it took literal DAEMONS to make him choose a side says a lot about his character, despite his actions afterwards.

A sword is nothing without it's wielder.

>>48791901
My nigga

>>48795534
This list is great

>>48797331
Fulgrim betrayed Curze and told Dorn when he shouldn't have, plus he was overly arrogant and prideful and held normal humans and those who couldn't meet his standards in high disdain. Dorn could be a stubborn, overly honest dick, and he did provoke Curze, but he was overall just an emotionless brick while Fulgrim's pride and narcissism led to him being corrupted.

>>48779416
>most loyal
>not Big Es personal guardian

Pick one
Rogal Dorn confirmed best

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>>48751478

>>48790052
>fuck psykers, they're scum
>guess I'm a bit of a psyker, let me exploit this to make me more deadly

>>48752284
Don't worry redeemed Magnus for 8th edition

>>48799212
more like
>Fuck psykers, they're scum
>Oh fuck nurgle is gonna torture me and my legion for eternity because he wants a daemon primarch too
>Only one way out of this

>>48791901
Shame his legion is full of wankers who want to put their dicks in power sockets

>>48795106
>Implying anything can stop the Fists besides mutually assured Destruction

Or just a bunch of Orks.

>>48799510
Are we talking about the Iron Hands or the Admech?

>reading through all the WH lore I can find
>on Lorgar's Warhammer wiki page at the moment
>see this thread

Why is he the worst? He seems like a very conflicted, yet driven person. I actually like him.

>>48751478
World Eaters or Word Bearers started it all. I can't remember but fuck that guy, going all lolrandumb edgy shit and ruining a perfectly good campaign planned out by GM (galaxy master) emprah.

>>48800332
He's a Christfag who kickstarted the Horus Heresy and shitted up the Imperium.

>>48800373
*tips ultramarine helmet

>>48796135
The novels describe it as a tulwar, that's really all we've got.

>>48797401
It sounds like you expect him to commit before he even knows what the two sides are.

>>48799341
To bad he started training his psyker powers before he turned

>>48800373
tip tip tippity tip tip tip

M'lady

>>48776501
literally talking about a word bearer

>>48786176
>Never picked a side

Literally on Terra surfing predators while firing power arrows, fightan Mortarion, Delaying traitor fleet

Sure sounds like someone who didn't pick a side anon

FUKKEN SAGE

>>48800614
everyone else did. It was explained to him by both magnus and perturabo, so he can't plead ignorance.
>>48801306
and could have possibly prevented there ever being a siege on terra in the first place.

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>>48800347
FUCKING EREBUS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Angron
>REEEE NORMIE EMPEROR GET OUT

Considering how a number of Primarchs outright tricked by 'wrong side' stuff during the fighting (Russ, Lion), the Khan may have been doing the right thing.

After all, the Lion, alleged super-genius and rival to Horus got fooled by PERTURABO of all people.

Worst primarch's probably Angron, who's an utter liability. Or Lorgar, who's a tool. Or Konrad, who contributes nothing.

Those three are by far the worst performers. At least Mortarion, though boring and stupid, was kinda predictably stable.

>>48787061
>Shows that all Humans, not matter their mutations can serves the Imperium in the most noble of ways.
You were saying?

>>48754069
Sanguinius and Vulkan did literally nothing wrong.

>>48754069
Except for Vulkan, Sanguinius and Corax

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>>48751478
>Doesnt like him praising the Emperor as a god
>Gets killed
>The imperium now made the Emperor a god
lol wtf is this hypocrisy
thank god i support the /greatergood/

>>48805651

>Corax
>got depressed and hid in a tower
>escaped home because angst
>nothing wrong

Gotta agree with Sanguinius and Vulcan tho, as long as we don't count falling for obvious trapa like Signus Prime and Istavaan V

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Make way for the BEST Primarch

>>48805691
Fucking weeb space communist.

>>48751478
Pro-tip

All the Primarchs are terrible and 40k was better when they were not expanded on.

>>48795023
What his brother came to accept and believe was itself a joke.

Imperial Truth was a comforting lie. Turns out there was gods and they were awful.

generic giant baldy man?

>>48795023
>>48808170

Yes and I am totally with him on that. The ugliest truth is always better than the most beautyful lie and all that.

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Angron, Curze and Magnus were the worst. The first two are literally "should have been executed on the spot as a danger to the imperium"-tier, whereas Magnus was a complete tool with an ego bigger than Fulgrim

>I know the warp better than the Emperor himself and I'll go against it, but just to be sure that my children don't go against me I'll lie to them about the existence of the dark gods. Then, when I fuck everything up I'll sacrifice my legion against their will to show the Emps how sorry I am

What a wimp.