>Not using diceless systems >In 2016 ITT: we trigger /tg/

>nigger bluffing with finger-guns getting shot by a cop.webm

>>48672815
When a cop has his gun pulled and is telling you to get on the ground, get on the fucking ground.

That kid was retarded.

>>48673453
Anima is basically the best fantasy system with a deep and rich gameplay, customization and lore.

>>48672795
But I like diceless systems

>>48677735
I think that being diceless isn't always a bad thing.

Abstract range > battle maps

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Plate armor was literally useless and the only reason why it was worn by knights was to show off their wealth and status over common men. While it might protect you from a glancing sword strike, it was utterly useless against bows and crossbows, did nothing to protect you from blunt weapons, and all came at the cost at severely hampering your motion from wearing 120 pounds of iron armor. It was so heavy that the only way knights could even fight was on horseback, and a knight knocked on his back is as helpless as a turtle. Knights also couldn't see anything at all with their helmets on, hence most of their fighting consisting of crude bashing as two men smacked each other with a sword until they cut through the armor and killed their opponent.

>>48677996
But this is true

If you want to use a grid or measure movement, play a miniatures game

>>48678149
This, plus swords weighed in excess of forty pounds. Except for katanas, which could easily bisect a man in full plate.

>>48672795
I like playing games with my favorite system and teaching new players.

I've played with girls and fags more than straight men.

A GM is just there to react to the players. Planning ahead of time or trying to create a story is simply a waste of their time.

>>48678259
Fuck you, you are everything wrong with this hobby

All you Monstergirl fetishists are just furries in denial.

5e and Dungeon World. One is better than the other.

Character Sheet Genders.

>>48672795
>>Not using diceless systems

I want to gather up all of the special snowflakes, and "That Guy" roleplayers in my area, and put them all in an Amber Diceless game, in "Game of Thrones" mode, record the resulting glorious chaotic festival of backstabbing and douchebaggery, and post it somewhere for posterity.

Sadly, I don't have the time, or three other selves that would be needed to keep that epic mess coordinated.

>>48678403
>I activate my everything-proof shield!
Nuh-uh! I use my attack that pierces everything-proof shields!

>>48678594

Not how Amber Diceless works.

elves > dwarves

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>>48678259
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

shota and loli kender vampire eldritch knights

>>48678364
Those are all correct, though. Monstergirl fetishists are actually worse because they are blinded of their degeneracy.

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>>48678364
>All you Monstergirl fetishists are just furries in denial.
Guilty as charged.

>>48679630
But totally how Exalted works!!
(I don't care what anyone says, that is clearly a diceless system.)

>>48672795
I want to say you can't trigger /tg/, but tumblr-tier opinions are slowly becoming acceptable here.

>>48682805
I need a for example

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For the mtg part of tg I guess

>>48683097

When did Woolie become a Magic card?

... I need to find more black weebs with hair.

>>48678149
Man I'm the armorfag who made that post and I a burning desire to correct something I made.

>>48683146
Woolie would make a pretty legit planewsalker. He could start as green and steal parts of the color pie from enemy planeswalkers and gain benefits or some wacky bullshit like that.

>>48672795
pls rate in A>B>C>D order

dice
diceless
cards
a piece of shit

>>48678247
If you want to use gridless play freeform rp instead of using a system.

>>48677996
I mean, correct

>>48678149
kinda correct, longbows weren't the most reliable things in the world versus armor but since they were always on horseback, it didn't matter

>>48683097
i literally have no problems with this character

>>48683208
dice>cards=diceless
a hybrid dice/card system could be interesting if you set up the cards to offer results a die roll couldn't, but just 1:1 subbing in playing cards for dice doesn't really do anything except a nugget of useless novelty

Nobody on /tg/ has meaningful relationships in real life.
Whenever I join an RPG group, I expect to have the final word on everything, even if I'm not the DM, because I'm obviously the smartest person playing.
I expect females at the table to have sex with me. For that matter, I also expect the men to let me fuck them. If I decide a campaign should appeal to my fetishes, it should do so immediately.
Pathfinder is nearly the most well-designed game in RPG history, except that Fighters are STILL overpowered. After all, plate armor was useless in real battles and magic always trumps mundane.
That said, I have a 500 - page campaign setting and rulebook for my own perfectly balanced game in a setting that ignores that faggot Tolkien and dumbass Prachett. The main species in the setting is a group of pansexual loli futa cat girls. They are always Chaotic Good, have a +30 racial Charisma bonus (the only stat used for spellcasting) and automatically have 2 feats, 5 levels in Ladyknight, and proficiency in boobplate. None of those levels count against XP, and they gain said XP 50% quicker than any other race. Killing one of them automatically makes the killer a level 1 commoner with all stats and skills at 0, causing them to die instantly.
Speaking of which, when characters die in my games, I take the character sheet and add it to my collection, which I keep in a binder and brag about at every convention about how much of a killer DM I am.
There are 50 different stats in my game, 245 skills, and three pages of required backstory for every character. I expect all of them to be filled out whether I tell you what we'll be playing or not.
After you write down something on your character sheet, you can't change it back.
(Cont)

>>48683238
If (you) want to post your retarded, uneducated opinion go back to >>>/reddit/

Hello.

>>48683238
I really can't tell if this is an ironic attempt to trigger /tg/ or if you actually got triggered in a joke thread about triggering.

>>48678342
Are you implying this isn't true?

>>48683487
I mean, it's not
Lazy GM type shit is possible, and really good for people who don't have a ton of time on their hands, but it's not the only, or the best, way to run a game

>>48683409
The setting is obviously steampunk, the best kind of setting. The main enemies are white male humans that act and look exactly like my non-biological father.
Elves are either slaves or butchered on the side of the street for food, and orcs are all male and always Chaotic Neutral.
I don't give a shit if you're uncomfortable or hate my DMing style, and will call you a bigot at every opportunity, abusing buzzwords to try and make people think you're oppressing me and making both people with autism and LGBT people get angry at me for using them as shields to do whatever I want.
Every action you take in my system requires five rolls of a d34, and I expect you to remain silent as I search through the tables for your result, which more often than not involves your character dying unless I cheat or like you.
I always have a DMPC named Chad who is perfect in every way, just like me.
Also, you pay for all of the pizza (anchovies, jalapenos, and pineapple with barbeque sauce ONLY), host the game at your house, and also provide Mountain Dew. You should feel hinged I'm even DMing for you.
I don't use coasters.
Finally, Virtualoptim is the only member of the /tg/ community I consider even approaches my intelligence.
For more of my DMing advice and lifehacks, follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and subscribe to my Youtube channel.
Thanks. ; -)


I'm going to Hell for this, aren't I?

>>48683206
Stealing the color pie made my night. Thanks anon.

>>48683550
Forgot to mention my Patreon, obviously. I need that book of mine published, and if we raise enough money on Kickstarter, I can get it illustrated by Allen Nunis!!!
XD

>>48683587
That was physically painful to read. Bravo.

Meta-currency (fate points, bennies, etc.) are an absolutely necessary requirement before an RPG can be considered "good."

Fun is subjective.

>not having a motherfucking SLOT MACHINE next to you that you one-arm bandit to determine success

Plebs please.

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>>48672795
>trigger /tg/

k

>>48683409
>>48683550
I held out until the smiley at the end.

>>48683826
This would legitimately be great.

>>48678149

>120lbs

>>48684334
Despite all the reasons it shouldn't, it kind of looks like he's taking a bath in that boat

>>48678149
the kind of armor that was vulnerable to bows of any kind weighed much less then that

120lb sounds like jousting armor, noone fought wars in that.

plus I thought it was widely disproven that getting back up was impossible in a suit of plate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg

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>>48678364
>denial

Nice try kiddo

>>48672795
>If you are opposed to loss of player agency such as bbeg mind-controlling your PC, you are self-inserting and autistic

>>48684445
>>48684592

This is a saterical thread ffs

>>48683765

Is /tg/ supposed to hate meta-currency? Almost all of the most popular RPGs right now have it.

>>48685170
one part reactionary nerds one part crappy GMs forcing metacurrency into systems not designed for it.

>>48685231
I'm not trying to argue, so much as I'm just wondering what exactly makes a game not designed for meta-currency to you? I feel like most games I've played have at least some of it. The only one I can think of that really doesn't have one is 3.5, but even for that there were luck feats and things like that

>>48677996
What do you mean by abstract range? You mean like expressing everything in feet and metres rather than using a grid map?

>>48685254
Games without meta, obviously. Aka the way you're SUPPOSED to roleplay

>>48685266
Theatre of the Mind. Aka GM fiat

>>48683550
>(anchovies, jalapenos, and pineapple with barbeque sauce ONLY)

>>48683208
A piece of shit>dice>cards>diceless

dragonborn are ok

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>>48683765
I thought this was a widely aknowledged truth.

>>48677996
>triggered

Was halfway through writing a rebuff.

>>48682821
SJW pandering and the shaming of those who won't play along to the delusions of trans-genders/

>>48682805
Yo, the crowd attracted to games of whimsy and awe is not very conservative in the first place. Maybe its you that never really got to know people who plays or talked to them for realsies?

Or better yet, ask yourself why you think that
A person who spend his free time willingly pondering biomes whose evolutionary pressures give birth to fairys and goblins, is in your mind not somewhat progressive or liberal.
A person who thinks very seriously about the economics of rearing gryphons vs dragones does not have the inclination to worry about what people do in their intimate lives.

Ps: dragonnes are more feasible, fuck'yall

>>48683409
>>48683550
I didn't know Donald Trump was a GM.

>>48685853
More an unholy amalgamation of John Wick, Byron Hall and Virtualoptim.

>>48685853
>implying he won't make roleplaying great again

>>48685671
Hi, /pol/

>>48685254
3.5 post eberron had action points and classes dedicated to them

>>48685170
>>48685254

From what I've seen, part of the issue is differing concepts of what makes a meta-currency. I mean, the common version of it I see people dislike is the kind that lets players edit the scene or otherwise change aspects of the game other than themselves. However, something like your example of luck feats - something that just lets you do something like reroll something or do another action or something mechanical like that - doesn't really get as much hate.

I figure it's the whole narrative-adjusting aspect of some metacurrencies that some people dislike, while ones where it's all mechanics aren't disliked as much. At least, that's what I've gotten from seeing this discussed every so often.

>>48683208
>A>B>C>D
a piece of shit > cards > dice > diceless

>>48685671
nice """""example"""""

>>48678403
I joined an Amber Diceless game once because I wanted to team up with strange friends and have fantastic adventures.

Fudging dice is okay, and I think more GMs should do it. It sucks losing a PC to something really stupid and messing up the group dynamic and story.

>>48688103

Personally, I think a GM should never fudge the dice, because then he becomes personally responsible for stuff like PC deaths from there on out. If he acted to save one PC, then he has to act to save every other PC from then on, or he's playing favorites. That sucks.
If you feel like you have to fudge the dice, then you should be changing rules instead. Replace "death at 0 HP" (assuming D&D because loludead is a staple of that game) with something less lethal if that's what you want at your table. Fudging the dice rolls doesn't fix the problem that you want the tale of the big damn heroes and the system wants to kill characters off suddenly and with little warning.

3.x is legos. 5e is megablox. 4e is combining mecha.

>>48688759
3.x is legos, but some asshole keeps trying to throw them on the floor where you're walking and you have to constantly wrestle with him to escape the pain.

>>48672795
We use a homebrew system where you have to roll a d20 for basically everything you do, and everything can critically succeed/fail. Does that count.

>>48672795
the jews are bad news

>>48683208
>Dice
>Cards
>A piece of shit
>A truck full of shit
>Diceless

95% of the people who hate on diceless rpgs have never actually played one and think it's the same as freeform.

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>>48682455
>>48684612
le sexy kobold meme is complete scale faggotry, do not associate it with the monstergirl master race.

>>48689959
>le faggotry is complete faggotry, do not associate it with the other faggotry

>>48689959
>monstergirls
>litterally just humans with extra ears or a tuft of fur
You're as to true xenophiles as an appletini is to vodka.

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>>48690021
Sorry I just posted best waifu I could think of, heres a more monstery one for ya.

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>>48690151
>human face

>>48672795
>I believe that bards are an important part of any adventuring party.

>I let my players play lawful evil paladins I call them dark paladins.

>If you roll a 1 it's always a critical failure that ends badly for you.

>I think space Marines are actually decently balanced.

>Orks need a buff. Their too weak right now.

>I prefer age of sigmar over WHFB, it's more fun.

>Should I play warmachine or hordes, which game is more fun?

>>48677996

For long range? I completely agree.

>>48678247
>This, plus swords weighed in excess of forty pounds. Except for katanas, which could easily bisect a man in full plate.

Okay anon you win, I was just triggered.

>>48678342

This is half true. Trying to plan a story is a waste of time. Planning ahead is not a waste of time.

My advice is always to start with a boring-ass adventure hoko then see where it goes from tehre.

>>48683550
>Finally, Virtualoptim is the only member of the /tg/ community I consider even approaches my intelligence.

Thanks bro

>>48685617

No, it's completely autism. Metacurrency are used to patch up bad system design. If one roll could fuck you up, maybe you should not have put yourself in that situation.

>>48685448

Stop pretending to be me.

>>48689059
>>48683208
Wait hold up...

What do you mean cards?

Like a deck of playing cards?

For what game? D&d just replace dice with cards?
D20?
GURPS?

How does it work?

>>48690206
>scaly

>>48688759

Nah 5e is duplos glued together and you get to pick one glued together mess of duplos. They are very pretty duplos though.

3.5 is a bunch of shit-colored legoes covered in jizz and dried marshmallow sauce but you can build whatever you want with them, however only half of the sculptures will stand up.

I like having fun with friends more than arguing over rules. That is why we play Pathfinder

>>48684727
Satirical. The word you're looking for is satirical.

Dogbolds are The best Kobolds.

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>>48672795
Is using FATAL cheating?

>>48690596
>not cuddling your scalefu on cold nights to keep her warm with your body heat.

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>>48690590
>Pick a die size
>Remove every card from the deck larger than that size
>Draw a card from the appropriately sized deck any time you would roll a die
>The number/value of the card is the number you 'rolled'
>Discard it
>When you've drawn all the cards from a deck, reshuffle it

It makes the distribution of rolls even over the course of the game. It also adds tension and drama if you've drawn all the high or low cards, since you know you've either got a piss poor performance or a great 'roll' coming

You could even give the cards to the players face up and let them pick which ones they want to spend for skill checks, attack rolls, damage, etc. There are games that use poker systems or other card mechanics where players can bid cards or otherwise choose what they want to spend out of their hand.

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>>48694870
>game uses card based mechanics from a standard 52/54 card deck
>encourages the GM and players to cheat with the cards
>players who catch someone else cheating are rewarded and the cheater punished mechanically
>anyone who makes false accusations is punished mechanically

Is there a game that does this?

>>48695024
That sorta shit could work well in a meta-RPG.
Something like the players are all gods who are fucking around with their mortal champions.
The cheating represents the god actually manipulating fate to get their hero a leg up
.
Think the Iliad, by way of the bits with the gods in Colour of Magic

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>>48696922

That's a hell of an idea, anon.

>>48696964
Maybe you could base it off that Thousand-and-One nights RPG.
You know the one where the players are courtiers telling stories? Forget the name of it though

>>48695024
>>48696922
Fucking Fund It.

>>48695024
>>48696922
So like a table top narrative version of Bullshit?

>>48677996
What exactly do you mean? I don't really understand the context

>>48697059
I was thinking of Bullshit too funny enough.
Maybe we could do some card ORE bullshit where whether you succeed is based off both what number is on the card and how many of a card you put down?

>>48697091
Using theatre of the mind and vague "yeah you're in range" descriptions over having a map and direct range representation.

I unironically agree with him.

>>48697110
Oh okay, thanks

I think all these recent 40k expansions are great and i hope they keep adding more mechanics to the game, that way the fun will never end!

>>48697102
>>48697030
>>48696976
>>48696964
>>48696922
>>48697091
>>48697059
Writing a small proof of concept now

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>>48698117
godspeed anon
pun intended

>>48696922
I could swear this exists.
>Checks pdf collection

Go look up "Enemy Gods: A Little Game of Big Powers"

>>48698117
>>48698153
Though there are two questions in my mind.

Firstly, are we going GM or No GM? This sorta thing could work well for troupe play imho. Something like the GM/arbitrator rotates. Or maybe it goes to the person to "win" the last game?

Secondly, tying into the last question: win conditions, yes or no? I'm thinking maybe something a little like Everyone is John where you get points based on goals?

>>48698203
You couldn't link a pdf anon? It sounds interesting, but my quick archive trawl turned up zilch in the way of downloads

>>48690206
>human face
>implying
That's not it's face

>>48698211
Also, here's an idea
How about each player plays both a god and a mortal hero, but said mortal hero's patron is the player to left's god?
Or is that too complicated?

You could use it to do neat things like having the patron god's goal be unknown to the hero player, with the patron god's only way of communicating being a list of vague portents

>>48698339
Very clever idea.

>>48698211
To create a world, yeah, and to arbitrate disputes (which will undoubtly happen with each player controlling a different hero)

Oh I'm not doing the Illiad idea, I'm going with something simpler to get the basic mechanics down

Also it looks like I'm going to be away from the computer for the next 3 hours, by which time the thread will most likely have 404ed

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>>48698251
Sure, sure. I acquired it on /tg/ anyway.

>>48698423
You could always use Dawn of Worlds or some other collaborative method to make a world.
But yeah, there does need to be an arbitrator, though it doesn't necessarily need to be the same person each session

>>48698460
Thanks anon, I'll read it in the morning, it's nearing 4am

>>48676239
I unironically like Anima.

>>48698573
>there does need to be an arbitrator

There are ways around having an arbitrator. Strong rules, a bargaining system, a voting system, and probably others I'm not thinking of.

>>48698275
even worse

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>>48690151
[aroused moth noises]

>>48678364
>5e and Dungeon World. One is better than the other.
Ebola and rabies. One is better than the other.

>>48685853
I wish he'd hurry up and just lose already so American politics can stop infecting every board.

>>48699968
>not wanting him to win
>if he's a good president, we have a good president
>if he's a bad president, we finally get the greatest of habbenings

>>48699968

Oh, my sweet, simple retard. You think Trump losing will stop American politics from infecting every board? You think things would be any better if Hillary wins?

Bless your heart.

>>48699968
>I hope the business man loses to the radfem who belies women are the primary victims of war and recieves most of her funds from a foundation with questionable donators, including those from countries that *actually* abuse women like Saudi-Arabia.

We're talking about the race between a douchebag and a woman who should be in prison. But hey, it's a woman so she can't do any wrong, right?

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>>48678403
I like the cut of your jib, sir.

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>>48698456
>>48698117
And done

Fluffed it as a Western, but you could play basically any setting you wanted with it

>>48678247
>Except for katanas
Well played.

>>48699968
>I wish he'd hurry up and just win already so American politics can stop infecting every board.
I made this post great again

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>>48702163
Forgot to add in rules for reloading guns

>>48683097
I think the peircings and like one eye brow bit shaved it retarded. But otherwise i don't really have a problem.

>>48685853

"Al-Alright, alright alright. Now, listen, you guys arrive at the-the-uhhhhh... Enchanted tower! Enchanted Tower! Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous and and and beautiful. It's really great, trust me."

The Don displays his undersized hands in a faux-steadying gesture and contorts his face as he looks around at his players.

"SO. You're at the enchanted tower and it's beautiful Just great. Then, from out of seemingly nowhere, but not actually nowhere, a Woman comes out and she's gorgeous. Just beautiful like like... Have you ever seen my daughter, Ivanka? Like that. Real Sexy. She tells you all about the owner of this Tower and he's great. Really, just amazing guy. Certified Genius. GENIUS. Best guy. Just strong as an ox. Did I tell you about his hair? It's great, it's wonderful. Wonder... FULL. She tells you, you know, he should be leading this land, because he's the right guy for the job. Real great. He is SO SMART.

He's gonna fix things around here, cause really. The country's a mess. Ugh, just awful, no one knows what they're even doing! It's ruled by a Foreigner, who, frankly, is just making a mess of things, but he's on the outs now, and some people, these stupid people, want to put this shrewish hag in power, this liar that worked for him. Just terrible, she really just screwed the pooch too much. Horrible. He's gonna get all the way there too, and, you know wht? Why am I even talking to you shmucks about this?

Waste of time really, cause really he's gonna win this thing and he doesn't need any of yooooour help to do it, 'cause, really, he's the best. Now, all of you, you're fired, get outta my office!"

The Don throws dice at his players until they flee his office.

>>48688985

And each time you try to wrestle for control you have to look through eight different rulebooks for exactly how you're supposed to handle grapples

>>48689265
Aside from Amber, how do other diceless systems handle conflict resolution? What kind of mechanics do they use?

>>48704223
Marvel uses a form of bidding system iirc.

>>48690597
Are duplos bigger than megablox? That's all I care to get across with the bait.

>>48703221
kek'd

t. MAGA