Infinity General: DEUS VULT Edition

>>48523428

Vallejo and P3 are better IMO. More bang for buck and less chalky.

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Favorite artwork?

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>>48529919
Probably this one.

>>48530085
Is that Pentesilia?

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This one.

Stupid question, but what music they used in Red Veil trailer?

>>48531299
No, that could not be Penthesilea. This picture is Nomad black propaganda.

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>>48529919
I know /ig/ is not a fan of scans... But this one.
If there will be an Artbook 2, I hope it will have this as a print.

>>48531905
Did he looking for Francis?

>>48532294
It would work if it was Señor Massacre.

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>>48532414
Well the guy looks like Senor Massacre

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>>48532414
>>48532546
It *is* Señor Massacre.
Also Francis is working for ALEPH.

>>48532548
Top fucking kek, bravo CB!

Is there any pictures of Human Sphere spaceships, did they had small personal ships like Slave-1?
Also, any advices about using Father Lucien Sforza (because he's looking fuckingawesome)

>>48532548
holy shit

>>48529919

Probably the one you posted.
The depth and dynamism is great.

>>48531329
>dat little heart

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Bumpan.
What was your best or funniest Booty roll?

>>48534297
Sniperbike was a holy terror. I barely ever use the ABH, and rolled bike a grand total of once.
Now go and make the bike a actual option, CB, the model is too pretty to collect dust for years.

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>>48534297
>maverick on two bikes in "Firefight"

>>48534739
How would you use a sniperbike? That's one profile where I'd probably stay dismounted, especially if I put her somewhere up high.
I know she has two breaker pistols, but that does not seem good enough to justify forgoing ARO duty.
Spitfire bike would be amazing. Although a 20 pts Spitfire is good on it's own, before a possibility of a bike, additional ARM or Mimetism/ODD. Might be a nice unit for 200 pts.

>>48534297
Not mine but McMurrough with ODD. He got an HMG soon after.

So in HSN3 stun and T2 ammo is now labeled as exotic, does that mean Total Immunity doesn't protect against it anymore?

>>48532548
I don't get this.

>>48538774
In the Deadpool movie the antagonist's bad guy name is Ajax, but his real name is Francis. They say it a lot

>>48538931
Oh, okay. I didn't watch that movie

>>48538466
No total immunity does not protect against either of those.

>>48539799
Thanks!

>>48534297
failed a combat drop and landed in front of two HRL toting enemies. ARM +4 thank you.

>>48536484
In Firefight?

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>>48529919

>>48540738
I'm feeling the urge to make an Aleph army of nothing but cuties.

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>>48540980
We've done that before, making playable, if not optimal, lists made up of nothing but cutie gals. Nomads was the easiest (Riot Grrl or Moira links + remotes), but there's others.

Just painted my first infinity minis and the result is pretty horrible, as expected desu. The few specificly infinity related tutorials that use a brush weren't really of good quality either. At least there aren't that many of them.

Where can I learn more about the fluff for this game?
Nomads look pretty interesting, but I'd like to know more about them and the setting in general before I buy anything.

>>48541381
The books

>>48541381
https://web.archive.org/web/20140702233022/http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en

The old website has fluff entries for most units released at that point.

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Oh god I have no idea what I'm doing. This looks nothing like the amazing minis on the Infinity website.

>>48541809
Looks great anon.

>>48540980
Do it.

>>48540980
I'm new to Haqq, but will be starting an army since I've gotten Red Veil. Any cutie Haqq lists out there?

>>48541056
Prime black, greyscale, Block, Wash, Highlight mate.

That's all you need for tabletop quality.

And water down your paints.

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>>48542131
QTs for days anon.

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>>48542182
Add DFQT when she drops.

>>48542182
>saved forever and ever.
Sounds like fun too.

>>48541381
>>48541595
An anon added all the unit fluff to aspreadsheet for ease of access.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/116M600ywaWJdYXm2UQAlt2ytcDo83q0Q-69PKYsG-rI/edit#gid=758906257

>>48542289
Very cool, thanks.

how do I build a jsa list with Mushashi, saito togan and Kitsune? also, how old is the yojimbo model? I don't want to get him and then a rescuilpt is released.

newb question and sorry if this falls a little into off topic.
first. how much might cost me to asemble a full army/squad for an infinity game?
second, how does infinity compares to, for example, Deadzone? (also do Infinity have something like the Forge Fathers from deadzone?)

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>>48539368
Well, funny part that he have almost the same face. >>48532548

>>48543713
It really depends, if you want the cheapest route in, it's a starter box, and a blister and that will get you to at least 150 points, so it's around 60AUD. 150 points you can play and have fun with easily. If you have a mate, and you can split a box, grab icestorm or red veil, and that'll set you back 110AUD in total, and you'll both have around 170-185 points. If you want to play 300 points, then you can get there really cheaply, usually around another $50.

So around 110AUD you'll get a 300 point army.

>>48543511
Yojimbo is a very new miniature. He wont be resculpted.

>>48543713
Depending on the faction, an army can cost 100-200usd for a standard size army. Of course, more when you add to your collection.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with deadzone. Also there are no dwarves in this game

>>48543937
>Sorry, I'm not familiar with deadzone. Also there are no dwarves in this game
Despair.

>>48543886
>100-200usd
that's... a considerable amount. seriously need to think about this.

thanks for for the answers.

>>48543511
>ninjas and samurai list
That's... not a great idea. Firstly, melee is a suboptimal choice, even in JSA. Haramaki links quite good for a reason. Particularly, I would strongly recommend taking only one between mushashi, saito, and kitsune.

Mushashi's actually not very good; he's very deadly once he gets to melee, but he doesn't have any good ways of getting there. 6-4's a good start, and WIP15 flash pulse is... interesting, but only ARM 1 on an effective 2W unit isn't fantastic. 24 points gets you a TR bot or a MSV2 spitfire bot, or Yuriko Oda. Consider Neko Oyama or a Shikami instead.

Saito and Kitsune have a lot of overlap, and if you're not expecting to cut up a Jotum, it might be prudent to just take Saito. He's a bit less effective, but is still pretty good where it counts.

So it turns out my Aleph starter pack comes out to 160 points and no SWC points. According to 1d4chan I should aim for 300 points and 6 SWC points.

I feel like picking up another Asura might be a good idea? They seem pretty boss.

>>48545855
that is a good amount to start at. 300 points is its for turny play

>>48545855
> I should aim for 300 points and 6 SWC points.
300 points is a standard list and you get 1 SWC per 50 points, so at 300 you get 6 SWC.

>another Asura
While they're quite awesome, they're also expensive. Here are some other considerations that you should keep in mind:

1) At 300 points you need a *minimum* of 10 orders for a full combat group. You'll probably want to aim for a few more (in a separate group). Maintaining your "action economy" through order efficiency is very important. So it's nice to balance expensive units with cheap order-generating ones. For ALEPH that means padding lists with Netrods and Yudbots.

2) Lots of people skip over the generic remotes and robots that (almost) every faction gets. Truth is, they have great value on the tabletop, offering cheap, reliable solutions to various problems and providing orders.

3) If you are thinking of doing tournaments or ITS missions in the future, keep in mind that killing your foe is usually secondary to completing mission objectives. Which means you'll need specialists rather than just killy units. Typically 4 specialists units per 10 orders is fairly standard these days.

>>48544197
Its 100-200 for something you will get dozens of hours of enjoyment out of if you like the game.

>>48546011
This is good advice.

>>48545910
>>48546011
I'll keep reading the rules and finish my 6 starter set minis before I run off and buy more. Thanks guys!

>>48545855
Eh, I normally wouldn't take multiple Asuras. They're expensive and order hungry in a faction with a lot of expensive units. Myrmidons, remotes and/or infiltrators are a good place to start.

>>48546011
Yudbots don't generate orders.

>>48546209
Aleph noob here, what rule makes Yudbots not generate orders? Comparing them to Dakinis the only difference I see is they are Support Troops?

>>48546367
Their skill states it.

>>48546393
A ha! Found it. "The Doctor/ Engineer and the Remote only provide a single Order to the Orders Reserve and both are activated with only one Order."

>>48546367
This Special Skill that allows a Doctor or an Engineer to operate or repair by tele-presence through a Remote. Only figures with the Doctor or Engineer Special Skillcan use Remotes with Ghost: Servant. Before the battle starts it is compulsory to determine which figure will control each Servant Remote, which cannot be used by any other miniature.

The Doctor/ Engineer and the Remote only provide a single Order to the Orders Reserve and both are activated with only one Order. It is mandatory both figures belong to the same Combat Group where they count as a single figure. A Doctor/ Engineer can have more than 1 Servant Remote, but he can only activate them one by one, applying the other rules considerations. Meanwhile, the other Remotes will be inactive.

>>48546367
G: Servant

>>48546444
Can I heal 2 different people with doc and his servant?

>>48534297
Did Firefight with the weapon panoplies in the middle. Had an HI link snag a person carrying dual HMGs in a link (B6!?), and another HI now on a motorcycle.

>>48546603
The servant and controller must perform the same skills, but it's not compulsory that they have the same target.

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>>48531905
>>48532548
Dire foes when?

>>48546865
Ajax and Mr. Massacre are already separate miniatures. What would be the point of repackaging them together? Besides Thrasymedes and Lupe are already the DFs for SP and CJC.

>>48546718
>>48546603
G: Servant and Doctor
and Engineer Special Skills
Thanks to this Special Skill, a trooper with G: Servant can
cancel the Unconscious state of another trooper, recover
STR points, and perform all the capabilities of the Doctor
and Engineer Special Skills, even though they lack them.
However, when using this Special Skill, it will be the Doctor/Engineer who makes the corresponding Roll.
Players cannot apply the Doctor/Engineer Special Skills to
diffrent targets in the same Order. The Doctor/Engineer
Special Skills can only be applied to one target per Order.
The G: Servant trooper must meet all respective requirements to use the Doctor/Engineer Special Skills remotely

>>48542182
>Odalisque AVA:2

Better try QK, you can put 5 Odalisques and 3 Hafza posing as odalisques in a 5 models core and 3 model Haris.

>>48547483
Ah. You right. disregard>>48546718. While they don't have to have the same target, they do for Special Skills like Doctoring/Engineering

>>48546949
>What would be the point of repackaging them together?
A specific scenario for them.
It'd be fun to have a specific Corregidor vs ASS scenario with those two. The one from Dire Foes is not really about fighting, strangely enough.

>>48531905
Why chimera looks so glad?

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>>48550076
Why wouldn't she be? It's probably her night off and she has a fancy green drink. Although considering she's in uniform maybe she went in with the blonde Moderator and she's just having fun watching her partner trying to restrain Massacre. Like when they went in he, afraid of the mayhem she may cause, said to her "easy girl, I got this", not knowing who was throwing people around.
She might jump in after he admits he needs her help.

>>48550156
>Moderator and she's just having fun watching her partner trying to restrain Massacre.
>Someone from Bakunin trying to restrain someone

>>48550947
I mean, that's literally the Moderators' job descriptions. They restrain the rest of Bakunin so that the ship doesn't violently explode.

>>48546059
It's also insanely lower than the buy-in for practically any other table top game, except maybe X-Wing. If you were playing warhammer or flames of war, that probably wouldn't even get you the minimum, not to mention the costs in rulebook and tools

Speaking of Senor Massacre. Is he actually worth it? I love his model and it might swing me towards playing Corregidor over Bakunin for my first dabble into Sectorials. Was thinking of using that 2 Jaguar Haris he has access to.

why june release didnt up on shop?

>>48551607
Mathematically he looks fun. In a Haris he gets a B4 Breaker Rifle and he's able to cut up most TAGs. In a purely aggressive role he's probably still outshined by McMurrough though.

>>48551607
He's alright with Jaguars, but otherwise McWolfman is a better deal most of the time.

>>48551656
I never see McMurrough hit the table and there are 4 nomad players in my area. I don't play nomads but I would take El Señor more often then McDoggie. Silhouette 2, eclipse grenades, and natural born warrior are nice and the Breaker Combi is really good.

2 chain rifle and regular smoke on a silhouette 6 model just isn't appealling and I think I naturally have 2 aro piece in every list i make that can deal with that and that's not preplanning for McMurrough either.

>>48551957
Yeah, Deadpool in a link is pretty awesome.

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>>48546949
Who wins that fight?

Two natural born warriors. I would say it just comes down to dice, since EXP and EM weapons will probably end the fight in the first hit.

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> do really feel like playing
> you buddy won't stop asking for a game
> tfw this list
i won by doing little to nothing

Bought operation icestorm today, I got two knight father guys instead of one and then the nomad exclusive, what do?

>>48552140
Haramaki are tough no doubt.

Smoke+MSV or camo within 16 takes down HMGs no problem. Or anything that can engage from outside 32, like a camo or linked sniper rifle. TR bots don't like hitting on 2s or 5s.

The Haramaki are more complicated. My usual approach is to try to ignore them with smoke or drop troopers and gut his army. If I have to engage them for the scenario, I send in hackers. If I don't have hackers I send in assault troopers to kill them, like Dog Warriors or Myrmidons. They die, but it only takes 4 wounds before they lose their SSl2. Then the same things that killed the TR bots can kill them.

I love lists like yours because it punished those dumbasses who say "20 orders hurr durr." 12-15 orders is the sweet spot because it lets you take the sort of tools that can deal with supremely defensive lists.

>>48552182
1. Email CB about the mistake and they will send you a Reverend healer.

2. Enjoy your Father Knight duo, those guys are fucking awesome.

>>48551957
Mc Murder is a hand grenade your opponent has to deal with. Double chain rifle covers a huge amount of space, smoke/grenades on 19s, super mobile, and tough.

He's the kind of distraction that Corregidor doesn't really have otherwise.

Corregidor also doesn't have particularly exceptional ARO pieces outside of a fire team. The easy access to koalas helps assert board control in another way.

>>48552140
Eww.

Just remember you can't put Yuriko in a fireteam while she has a Yaozao.

Personally I am more inclined to put your reaction pieces with your specialists since your HI provide their own orders and are just using them to move into position.

Your specialists are going to be more order hungry by comparison.

Reminder that this could use more content.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Infinity_Tactics

>>48553302
Yup, superjump is amazing to get him where the enemy doesn't want him.

>>48553424
He plays ariadna and I made the list that way for dramatic effect.

>>48553986
Fair enough.

Ariadna definitely has the tools, Paracommandos, Chaussuers, Spetznatz, etc. Plenty of smoke too.

Personally I don't play that way because it isn't effective in a lot of scenarios, and I prefer a more balanced list. But it is by no means overpowered.

Like most things in infinity it is brutally effective until you learn to counter it, which is by taking a balanced list, deploying effectively and using clever tactics to overcome bad dice rolls.

>>48553438
Never wrote a wiki article, so may take me some time, but I'm currently writing up Steel Phalanx.

>>48545851
The only way I've managed to get Mushashi into melee unharmed is by covering him in smoke every turn, which in JSA is... order thirsty.

>>48555215
Cool.
Header image already uploaded.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:ALEPH%27s_Bizarre_Subsection.jpg

>>48534297
Played Firefight against Ariadna. Dog face rolled a Multi sniper. Next thing i know Dogface is just jumping up and down trying to snipe my Aleph.

After that my Marut Chan managed to roll for +4 armor.

>>48555587
Christ, Marut at 12 ARM is terrifying.

Modiphus updated the Character Creator again. For some reason there's still not a button to pay lifepoints to be a Dog Face without rolling in the regular creation (even though it clearly states it costs 3) and there's no option to select a career event. I wonder how it will be in the book.

>>48553438
I could write some stuff up for YJ, but not sure about the formatting. Maybe someone could help me out and put up a general outline?

>>48556449
Just copying one of the existing articles and replacing content while keeping formatting tags should be fine. The layout is copied from 40K tactica pages, although it's a bit more brief and some sections could probably be merged into one.

The outline is:
>Title
>Why play [faction]: a very general overview of faction's strength and playstyle written in an encouraging way
>Faction features: Something common about the faction as a whole, some specific most common special skills or abilities and a small paragraph about used style of armour, weapons and equipment
>Unit descriptions, broken down by type
>Building your army: what to start with, what to buy, how to build a list
>Hints and strategies: common ways to play the army and what to watch out for

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>>48556639
All right, will give it a go. Might as well put some descriptions up since the official YJ forum one is old as shit (half of it isn't relevant to N3, much less HSN3).

Someone linked me this blog (probably because they know I browse /tg/); it was the "Earning Your Playstyle" article which I found rather pointless (common sense with just a bit of self-congratulating and tryhard), but the one on List Building looks neat and relevant http://www.critskillpeople.com/2014/09/the-perfect-composition.html/

>>48556677
Bbbbut but but muh thousands of years of Chinese history! ;_;

Three until gencon info for infinity starts leaking out.

>>48556677

Well, hope it goes well, since there's quite a bit of stuff more since N1/2.

And then there's the sectorials as well...

Anyone know why this:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity/N3_Tactics/Jurisdictional_Command_of_Corregidor
isn't showing up in the infinity tactics category?

>>48558352
It is for me.

Hey, playing an introductory game with a friend and I had a question.
If a trooper splits their burst between 3 targets and the first target's around hits the active trooper, is the wound allocated before or after the rest of the active trooper's shots would resolve?

>>48558550
*Aro not around

>>48558550
After all shot are made. All shots happen"simultaneously'

>>48558581
Thanks

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Ok how badly did I do for my first list in Corrigedor?

>>48558352

To be fair, iirc intruders are still brutal when *attacking* MSV2 dudes from camo state due to surprise shot or whatchacallit. Otherwise, he really should be out of LoS anyway.

jesus christ the keisotsu need a resculpt. is there a new jsa starter in the works?

>>48559757
Probably not for awhile.

>>48559796
seriously? i mean a lot of the models in jsa look good but dayum the keisotsu are fugly.

>>48559836
They got a lot that needs resculpts still. For instance a lot of Aridna needs resculpting

>>48559757
Yeah, they were ugly even before the new design change. Hopefully they are, but there's no news of a new JSA starter.

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i've got combined army morat aggresion force without the female miniature. can i do something or should i take them to trash?
Pic obviously related

>>48560049
Samefag:
BTW i'm a noob and never ever played this game

>>48560049
take a picture of all the models with the little issue number with the model and email corvus belli, they'll hook you up.

>>48560113
No papers of numbers, the minis are already mounted my friendo

>>48560127
then you are shit out of luck.

>>48559857
So? ISS didn't "need" any resculpts, but they still got a new starter, Su Jian, and Wu Ming. SAA and MO dont need resculpts, but they will get them.

JSA starter needs the resculpts too. IMO those Keisotsu are worse than the Line Kazaks. And I think JSA is more likely to get resculpted before vanilla Ariadna

>>48557474
>>48558199
First pass at YJ units is up. Pretty basic, and missing a few things (Never tried Kempetai as vanilla YJ so... who knows), but we'll see how it goes for now.

>>48558352
>>48560800

Don't see either in the category? Only the MO one is visible.

Also, there is virtually no reason to take terrorist Neo-nazi shitbag in vanilla.

>>48560889
Odd, I see both of the new ones up.

>>48560926

No idea why neither are showing up in the category section, but good reads at least.

You might want to throw in WarCors (flash pulse fun) and Bounty Hunters (actual reasonable ARO sniping) as well.

Why were there no releases last month? Kinda sucks are they moving to bi monthly?

>>48561168
Gencon releases and preparation bruh.

>>48561168
For July, Red Veil IS the release. Also so far we only know Black Friars for August.

>>48561496
Bugger. I was hoping for something I could buy for Pano.

>>48561617
how about paint your models first

>>48561644
They're all painted, that's why I was hoping for something for Pano I liked the profile/idea of.

I need a little help with arranging my groups for my nca list. I think the currently layout is good but if you guys have any better idea I'll give it a try.

> obvious lt
i know, it is nca

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>>48561703
>They're all painted
my the church bless you my child. i can't fucking stand playing against an army of metal.

>>48561802
I used to bring one or two unpainted for awhile I felt awful about it. But then again most of my opponents are half or all bare metal or primed and or air brushed a single colour.

Maybe I should start my Qapu Khalqi, but I have such a hard on for pano.

>>48561868
are you me? I just finished all my PanO and should start my Haqq but PanO is just my favorite army

>>48561939
I hope so, I've always wanted a doppleganger.

Rules question:

I know I can spend a movement token to do a Move + Move or a Move + Shoot, but can I do a Shoot + Move? The rules aren't very clear on this, but it makes sense to me that I should be able to.

>>48562123
> Any one Short Movement Skill plus any one Short Skill (and vice versa).

Any advice on basing Tohaa?

I was thinking of doing a snowy mountain~ish scheme, but kind of worried that they'll look out of place on the common futuristic boards.

>>48561617
>Black friar
>not PanO

Nigga

So, how Human Sphere ships looks like?
Also, how many planets in O-12?
Also, is there any pictures with spacecraft?

>>48562632
12 planets in O-12 it is the orginization of twelve planets. And I know there are a few pictures of ships floating around. I think in some of the books

>>48560248
The year of Yu Jing has been good so far, so it's a possibility. And the reason ISS got lots of new shit was because nobody was playing them.

>>48562632
>how many planets in O-12
12. Earth, Neoterra, Acontecimento, Varuna, Svalarheima, Yutang, Shentang, Bourak, Dawn, Paradiso, Concilium and some other shitty one I can't remember.

>>48562123
You can, but it's almost never advisable, as you are declaring your burst before knowing the AROs your movement would cause.

Also, when you move + shoot you can declare your shot at any point in the move

>>48562913
Still makes me angry the year of Tohaa was a joke release wise.

>>48562706
>12 planets in O-12
>12
Shit, I thought O-12 means 12 systems.
Also, if O-12 is UN in space, does it mean that all planets are independent?
Also2, how Nomads exist in this political system, they are totally illegal and none recognize their sovereignty?

>>48563189

By paying for legal recognition with dirty money of course! After all, 0-12 has 'perpetual funding problems' despite having a whole lot of fancy clearly-not-illegal shit to play with.

just getting into infinity, as my first miniatures game I've never actually painted these things before. Other than thin my paints any other tips I should keep in mind?

>>48563189
Well it is funny as well cause mars, the moon, venus, and some of the moons around jupiter and saturn have people living there

>>48562706
I don't think that is correct.

12 nations iirc. Pan-O, Yu Jing, Haqq, Nomads and 8 minor ones like Russia.

>>48560127
You bought them used??

Chokonnit sells boxed minis individually.

He is on the forums.

Also, other Oznat profile is the one you want, so buy the blister.

>>48559271
MSV2 and 3 ignores suprise shot iirc.

>>48561703
How do you not like Black frairs???

They are awesome.

>>48559836
Just use new Zhanshi.

>>48563189
>Also, if O-12 is UN in space, does it mean that all planets are independent?
Nope. PanO owns Neoterra, Varuna and Acontecimento, as well as parts of Svalarheima and Earth. Yu Jing has Shentang, Yutang, some of Earth and the rest of Svalarheima. Ariadna is based on Dawn but doesn't even control half of it. Haqq has Bourak and a bit of Earth. O-12 owns Concilium. Paradiso is a war zone so a bunch of factions are trying to carve out a piece for themselves. There's also the Human Edge, which is a shitty star system with no habitable planets that nobody cares about.

>Also2, how Nomads exist in this political system, they are totally illegal and none recognize their sovereignty?
They're recognized as a sovereign nation by O-12, a fact that PanO, YJ and ALEPH all fucking hate. The same thing happened to Ariadna, which is the only thing that stopped them being wiped out.

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>>48563255
Prime black, greyscale, Block, Wash, Highlight mate.

That's all you need for tabletop quality.

And water down your paints.

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>>48561778
Swap bulleteer and Sierra. Bulleteer needs more orders to do its job. And you have enough veteran that I wouldn't worry about obvious lt too much.

>>48563557
greyscale?

>>48558938
Pretty bad anon, sorry.

You do not want a drop lt, you will start in loss of lt that way.

Also, playing sectorial without a core link is just hamstringing yourself.

Maybe drop a hellcat and the Lunk for a cheap 3 man Alggie team.

>>48563557
Which Vallejo shades I should use instead of Citadel?

>>48563588
You gently prime the models with white, so it creates a build up from black to white towards raised areas of the model.

>>48563615
>Which Vallejo shades I should use instead of Citadel Nuln Oil and others basic?
fix

>>48563615
I use P3, don't know Vallejo but hear it is better than GW.

>>48563629
Is that devlan mud?

>>48563496

Only lvl 3 ignores that, not lvl 2. Which makes a certain unit way more cheesy then it looks.

Currently tossing up between Bakunin and Vanilla Nomads.

Anyone got good advice on why I would do one of these over the other?

I quite like the idea of running a 5 girl Moira link headed up by Kusanagi, but when I'm not doing that I find myself going camo/REM heavy so I'm wondering if maybe vanilla would be better for that.

I'm trying to avoid just buying everything so I want to pick either a sectorial, or a subset of vanilla models and stick to them.

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>>48550156
As an Uberfallkommando, her job is to blend into the criminal underworld. She might have been observing the fights.

Could also just be a Chimera having a drink. Might be illegal, but in a room full of illegal people and things, the Moderator has to choose what takes priority.

>>48563675
Nuln Oil was Baddab Black IIRC

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>>48564254
Nuln Oil is alright, but Badab Black was a smidge darker and set on miniatures a lot cleaner. Army Painter Dark Tone is probably the closest match to Badab Black, but it still doesn't leave highlights as well as Badab did.

>>48563605
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Take 2?

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>>48564429
Your Lt is obvious, brittle and costs SWC. The Lt options are probably Corregidor's biggest weakness, but an Alguacil is still a bad plan most of the time. I've always liked using Brigada since they're great doorkickers, but Intruders and Wildcats are decent enough as well.

I'm not sure about that Hellcat. An ADHL is always nice, but generally if your drop troop is packing a rifle you'll want to put it in suppressive fire or take objectives with it.

To be honest that second group probably doesn't need so many orders in it. When you're packing quite a few expensive dudes it's better to keep any second group small. You'll want to spend orders on Bandits, especially if you scavenge something good, so dump him in the first group. AD units are popular in second groups since you can drop them after you take a casualty and transfer them into the first group.

>>48560800
Not bad. I can understand why you omitted Merc troops, but I think they should be there. If you don't have experience with them, maybe someone else can fill in.
Also I am currently writing vanilla PanO entry.

>>48564718
Yeah it does seem like Corregidor suffers when it comes to LT's. If it wasn't the only way to run Senor Massacre I would have gone down the Bakunin route. Their stuff is more my style. I would have fit a Brigada in there as the LT but he felt off to me. Dunno why.

>>48563549
I thought Haqq left Earth because normal muslims lost their shit at them.

Been trying to make a Briscard/M5 list work at the 300 point level. How did I do?

Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 9 / 1 / 1
BRISCARD Lieutenant Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
BRISCARD Paramedic (Medikit) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
BRISCARD Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)
EQUIPE MIRAGE-5 . (2 | 69)
MARGOT AP Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (37)
DUROC 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon. (32)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)
DOZER Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
ZOUAVE (Forward Observer) Rifle, D.E.P. / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

GROUP 23
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)

6 SWC | 298 Points

>>48565093
You're probably right. I don't know that much about Haqq.

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>>48565153
Here's the RPG Haqq intro. I don't know what else we have on them that isn't in there.

Just finished the Steel Phalanx page. Please let me know what you think and add whatever other useful stuff
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity/N3_Tactics/Steel_Phalanx

>>48565148
Seems alright to me. Your Lt is pretty obvious, but that's not really a problem when he's obvious in a link full of nasty AROs.

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And PanO is up:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity/N3_Tactics/PanOceania

>>48565160
They mention in the fluff for the rule books. Normal muslims are most likely still killing each other on Earth.

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Ok, guys. We are a bunch of friends starting Infinity. We're pretty much new to the system and bought some models we liked and now we want to play some 150pts games.

I have Haqq starter and Nazarova Twins. Probably not the best start but those models are gorgeous and I'm looking towards Khanate sectorial....

Basically I have something like that:
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16 points short. I know I can make Ghulam a doctor or use Naffatum as the one with heavy flamer but it still lacks points. What more should I buy/add/change? I really like BASHI BAZOUKS (BOARDING SHOTGUN) model and it's exactly 16 points but adding yet another irregular is probably a bad idea. Help me /tg/.

>>48565796
I'd replace one of the twins with a Regular Order solid ARO piece or two. Even a Ghulam sniper is not a bad idea. Or take two 8 pts Remotes for some cheap regular orders. Kum Bikers are supposed to trade with more expensive units and at 150pts there's not much to trade favorably with.

>>48565839
>a Regular Order solid ARO piece or two
Like what?

Switched one sister for a hassassim from Dire Foes box, upgraded one Ghulam to medic.
CwBgjAPmCsIVBSAzOBYQDZoIIRmautNngfuhgEy7UrUUAcuTKTY6+eIy6a71OYPiRC0lXjkq0pfJEwACioA=
Better?

Am I the only one who misses the old Kum Bikes? I know they were janky looking but they had charm. I love the new bikes but there's something about the unicycle of doom

>>48565929
Hunzakut sniper is okay, but does not provide an Order, so a Ghulam with Sniper Rifle or a Missile Launcher can be good. One of the best ARO pieces is Shihab. But since you seemingly only have the starter box and the twins, I suggest using that SWC you have left (at 150pts you have 3 to spend) to give the Janissary HMG and a sniper rifle to a Ghulam. As you'll probably be playing annihilation type games at first, to get a knack of the basic rules, you can forget Doctors and other specialist and get varied weaponry instead, to learn how range bands work.

Hey guys, I'm new to the and finally able to get into Infinity due to a change in my work schedule. A while back I happened to get the USAriadna Army Pack, the Hardcase, and the 112 Doc. I really like the USA theme and would like to expand in the sectorial, any tips for future purchases/lists? It seems like picking up Van Zant is a no-brainer, and maybe the other USA Grunt box would be helpful?

>>48566178
SWC Grunts box is good.
Mul + Dozer is decent.
Van Zant is alright cause he can be VZ or a Airborne as you like.
Also you'll probably want more foxtrots eventually as they do pretty much everything and come cheap.

>>48566178
Your choices are pretty much limited to the Grunt Box and Van Zant right now. Not until some Marauders or Minutemen come out.
Also Dozer with Traktor Muls.

>>48565208
It's very well written, aside from a few typos. I took care of those I spotted.

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>The next Ariadna release is not Marauders, Minutemen or Blackjacks

>>48565935
I think a redesigned unicycle would work well for a Nomad bike unit. They'd be better in a cramped environment like a ship, and it's just the sort of thing those fucking space gypsies would use.

Half the goofiness was in that the old female Kum's absolutely retarded pose anyway. The bikes (unikes?) themselves weren't too bad.

>>48531329
Which trooper is this?

Robot Jones is confirmed best drawfriend

>>48566501
It's a Croc.

>>48566500
Old kum bikes were ugly. Ugly.

The old Kum bikes were cool.
A few slight design changes and a resculpt was all they needed.
Apparently a big heavy chopper is great for Steppe and Desert landscapes, baka...

>>48566529
They're a hell of a lot prettier than their drivers, but you're not wrong. That's why I specified a redesign. I like the concept, but the execution wasn't great. Just like the Aragoto bike and its fucking frisbee sized front wheel.

>>48566589
To be fair a single wheel would provide abysmal weight distribution, which is bad in deserts.

saw the OP on the front page and space werewolves piqued my interest

where the space werewolves at

>>48566735
Ariadna

Are models like old Azra'il or (soon) current Ahl Fassed invalidated? Any other similar changes that makes some models obsolete?

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>>48566437

>>48565796
>NazarOVA
Wut? Shouldn't russians be small part of Ariadna?

>>48566735
test

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I would like to make some terrain out of styrofoam in the style of Destiny - Shores of Time.
Can anyone recommend me anything similar to draw inspiration from?

>>48566865
Sounds more Bosnian or Serbo-Croatian, famalam.

>>48566865

Random 'stans makes up that region where they are from. Prob a holdover from last time I guess.

>>48566823
If you play them on the correct sized base to make using the new Silhouette easy, you should be okay. Your opponent might grumble a bit, but they and you always have the right to swap in the Silhouette to cinfirm LOS. Expect your games to take longer

>>48566521
That sheila is cute. CUTE!

when is release uhlan and tik?

>>48567597
It's out bud :D

>>48567610
just only Miniaturemaket didnt release yet?

>>48566437
I know it fucking mavericks.

someone can show gametable setting?
i want reference

>>48566902
Sorry mate I personally haven't played the game, but look up old starship wreckage or some sci fantasy pics and you should be good.

Now I want to make a board for a crashed derelict ship covered in moss

>>48567668
Good looking or good to play? It's usually a compromise between the two.

>>48567668
Rulebook suggests 9 big scenery pieces and 6 smaller ones, with something tall breaking sniper vision and no table-length firelanes. It's good to place the buildings at an angle.

>>48566701
If it was wide enough and used a low pressure, balloon tyre, it would work.
Hell, BB-8 was just a rigid, smooth ball and it worked fine.
A single wheel would probably work better than a bike, for the same unit cost.

>>48566865
Nazarova is a Tatar surname. It means son/daughter of Nazar, "the one who gets up early at dawn".

>>48566437

It is pretty moronic.

>>48569645
>Hell, BB-8 was just a rigid, smooth ball and it worked fine.
No anon, it was CG, it's not real.

>>48563944
Moira links are of somewhat dubious quality these days. While they can be strong offensively, they're actually quite fragile and expensive; 1W and no NWI means that visor units or direct template weapons will be very deadly. And yes, you should assume your opponent has ways of dealing with ODD.

If you do go Bakunin, Riot Grrls are a strong fireteam alternative.

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>>48569842

>>48563484
I like the box oznat as a smoke generator, the MOD on the rifle is nice. Though if you are playing more aggressive, I would pick the shotgun Oznat.

>>48562913
>and some other shitty one I can't remember

Human Edge

>>48565148
Looks solid.

Since you have a dozer, some minesweeping tractor muls would be good, maybe drop the Zoave.

>>48563944
I like Riot girls better, with Kusinagi and a haris of Custodiers in support.

Morias are better as lone hunters with heavy weapons IMO.

>>48565796
Welcome to infinity.

Honestly don't worry too much about lists at 150. The game isn't well balances at that point level anyway, as there isn't enough redundancy to make up for bad rolls.

Just roll dice, learn the rules and have fun, then when you get up to 300 start thinking about list building.

>>48565935
I didn't love them, much prefer the new ones.

>>48566178
SWC grunts, Desperados, and Hardcase would be my first purchases after army box IMO.

>>48566735
Ariadna and a merc who works for Corregidor a sectorial of the Nomads.

>>48567668
Check out pictures from interplanetary on CBs website.

>>48570417
I'll look for some YJ player buying Red Veil so I can get more models for a nice price. I'll have probably too many Ghulams and other cool miniatures.

Tree important questions for 300 points armies:
How many models should I have?
How many Orders should I have?
How many SWC should I have?

>>48563255
Get a junk brush to mix your paints, don't let any paint near the furrel of your good brushes.

Thin paints with flow medium/improver. Not water.

Focus on being as tidy as possible, lay down block colours starting with the deepest parts of the model. For a newbie laying down smooth base colours neatly is your most important skill. Do that right and you can always go back and highlight later when your brush control is better.

Make a wet pallet with a Chinese food container, a sponge and baking paper.

Don't leave your brushes in the water.

Clean your mould lines nicely with files and your knife before any painting.

And watch some tutorials on painting and also pinning. I recommend painting buddah but there's tons around.

>>48570602
-between10/16 if possible
-thats the same as models
-in 300 the limit is 6 use it wisely

>>48566823
Besides rebasing, most people won't bat and eye if you use those guys as different troops such as Janissaries or Asawira.

Similarly any of the old Yujing Invincibles can sub for any other S2 HI.

Exrah are a bit harder, but the Vector and Void operators could easily be unidrons.

>>48570602
You get 1 SWC per 50 pts. It's better to use it.

>>48570602
I usually shoot for 10-16 regular orders starting on the board (not AD/TO hidden etc). I wouldn't go above 16 models either, bunching up models is deadly if opponent has indirect fire or templates.

Try to max SWC.

>>48570712
I use my old Vector as my HVT.

I want him to still be useful, he won me so many games singlehandedly.

>>48569842
What? No, son. The fucking thing is patented.
http://www.howbb8works.com

Running over deserts is cgi, tho.

Got one of these off of eBay. Wonder what I can do to turn him into the Unknown Ranger.
Any ideas?

I got a bucketful of assorted 40k bits (skitarii, IG, CSM, and some Forgeworld) and a pack of green stuff.
Maybe replace one of the hands for one holding a scrap shield?

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>>48571480
Forgot the pic

>>48571480
please don't put 40k bits on it. That's a surefire way to ruin it.

>>48571676
Not even FW bits? Those are close enough to true scale

>>48529849

Which faction should a guy who loves powered armor, heavy weapons, and high armor play? I'm a total newb to Infinity.

>>48572365
yu-jing, ill maybe recommend to wait until the next expansion comes up, so the invincible sectorial comes up, but knowing corvus, it will take ages...

>>48571480
I think you would be better off sculpting a shield than using any 40k pieces.

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>>48572365
Yu Jing or Pan-O.

>>48572412
Plenty of power armor in the sectorials right now. Wu Ming and Haramaki are fantastic links.

>>48572365
If you want raw shooting power, characters, or a knight theme, Pan O.

Otherwise Yu Jing. They have an HI for every task short of chucking them out of a plane. Not as much raw shooting as Pan O, but lots of versatile loudouts.

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New sniper shot.
Some say it's an Ariadnan knee, upside down.

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>>48572365
Right now Yu Jing with ISS in particular, PanO with Military Orders or, if you want to be especially fabulous, ALEPH Steel Phalanx. The latter is much more close combat focused though.
Yu Jing has the most versatile HI, some really fun ones like a transforming tigerbot or a bunch of nameless convicts (pictured) as well as cheap, explosive order monkeys,

>>48574179
It's a maverick

>>48574179
It is upside down, it's the same kind of knee pad as the previous maverick including the same color.

I'm so sorry.

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>>48574275
>>48574279
>CB looks at USAriadna, decides what they really need next, and make the complete opposite.
Literally poo.

>>48574179
I swear, if it's the Maverick version of the Devil Dog 'release'...

>>48574599
It does not appear to be the girl marverick

>>48574279
Actually Mavericks, Minutemen and Marauders, hell, even Grunts have this kind of kneepad. But the way the knee is bent suggests Maverick. Which is cool too, because people wanted those as well. Not as much as a Marauder box I presume, but right now anything new for USAriadna is good.
They hardly can make a second Army Pack for it. It has to be drip fed, as frustrating as that is.

>>48574799
>anything new for USAriadna is good
I'd rather have something else non-USAriadnan, please. They've had more releases than anything else for ages.

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>>48574799
The snipershot has the black arm3 sweater the mavs have.

>Marauders, MMs, Mavericks
I wouldve prefered the Marauders, but I'm fine with Mavericks. My expectations are so low, that any of them would do at this point.

>>48574863
>>48574912
Jeez Ariadnans, when did you turn into Yu-Jing/Vedics?

>tfw PanO/Nomad masterrace

>>48574799
Mud spalter, angle of knee, shirt color. It is pretty clear it is a Mav, unless it something completely new.

>>48574863

That is because their faction didn't exist really until last year. Problem is none of the releases were key releases. All you have are Grunts everything is secondary flavor choices. You need either Mauraders or Minutemen to form the back bone of your army.

If they released one of those two core boxes people wouldn't be complaining so much.

Personally I never run MM and only run 3 marauders, so I am happy with more mavericks.

> black friar to be released in August
> Only a multi rifle/hacker is needed for my NCA to be complete

Feels so fucking good

>>48575630
What about locusts?

Honestly one of the factions desperatly in need of resculpts have to be Ardina. Their stuff has a lot of old sculpts, kazaks, some of the caldonians, the french,

>>48576322
Kazaks and MRRF are in the pipeline. Probably not too far off either, given that ISS stuff should be slowing down towards the end of the year. And Zhanshi got their resculpts, so that's nice, though probably no SWC box anytime soon (not that anyone would take them)

>>48576735

I'm just hoping to see new Veteran Kazaks (and Moblots) soon. They really need it.

How do I know which models are at the old scale vs the new scale when buying online?

>>48576735
I really hope Minutemen, Marauders and Blackjacks get done first.

>>48577781
If there's 2 versions of them, the grey background picture ones are new scale

>>48578051
Not necessarily, lots of old sculpts have those too.
>>48577781
What faction are you looking at?

>>48578070

Haqqislam. I bought a box of Ghazi and a box of Naffatun, noticed the difference right away. I would like to buy things at new scale from now on if possible, for consistency.

>>48578051
I noticed that too, but I bought a Djanbazan (hacker) blister, and the picture online is blue background (on gamenerdz anyway), but the model is clearly at the new scale.

>>48576322
And when CB finally makes USARF playable, we'll probably see some Ariadna resculpts. I'm sure we'll see resculpts as we get closer to the next book. I wonder if they'll save one of the ariadna starters for the next 2-player set

>>48577781
Some of the old miniatures like the male fiday are tall enough to pass. Heck, even the NCA starter is a mix (bolts are new. rest are old). If you're not familiar with all the miniatures, your best bet is to just ask someone on specific items.

>>48578172
Ghazi and Naffatun are both CAD sculpts, they're both new scale. But they're just from different ends of it.

The Sekban box was the last non-cad sculpt the Haqqislam, everything after that is CAD.

>>48578172
None of the Djanbazans are new or in the new scale, but the Muttawiahs and Naffatuns are new

>>48578266

So the differences I'm noticing is just a difference in sculptor? The Ghazi seem to be taller and have bigger heads.

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>>48578357

>>48578357

Honestly, most of the scale stuff isn't as bad as some people make out, probably just try to avoid the old Heavy Infantry because there's been a drastic shift there, other than that there's definitely been a bulking up but it's not that big of a deal IMO

>>48578850

As some anons have pointed out, I clearly can't tell the difference. I'm just trying to find an excuse to not use my Ghazi since I fucked a couple of them up. Guess I'll get creative with some green stuff.

>>48579199
>I'm just trying to find an excuse to not use my Ghazi since I fucked a couple of them up.

That sucks, but there's no excuse not to use Ghazi, they are fucking amazing.

>>48579400
QK is my reason to not use ghazi or naffatun...though between them, maggie, and fiday vanilla looks more and more enticing everyday.

>>48579581
Given enough time there'll be the Caliphate and Khanate sectorials.

Though I always encourage vanilla play just for the increase in possible unit interactions.

>>48579620
Caliphate is called the Ramah Taskforce

I hope they release the friar as a two pack. I mean, it only has two profiles

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>>48578458
Looks the same to me, eh.

>>48579199
What did you do?

>>48579776
Most likely two blisters, desu. When are you gonna use two of them?

>>48580119
Mushashi box has two models, I don't see people playing two of him.

>>48579776
They never do that, and even if they did I will never use the sniper version, so I would prefer two packs.

>>48578458
What colours you use for skin?

>>48580311
I play NCA and the sniper profile looks fantastic. It is the only msv2 sniper in a sectorial that should be named "build-a-dropbear"

>>48575893
Can't wait for locusts.

>>48570332
Right-o.

Re-tweaked it and got this. Thoughts? (sorry, posting from my phone here).

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>>48580350
VMC Flat Earth, Cork Brown, and Basic Skintone

>>48580860
>VMC Flat Earth, Cork Brown, and Basic Skintone
Okay, another stupid question, which Vallejo paints will be closest analogues?

>>48581940

Not him, but I'm pretty sure VMC = Vallejo Model Color.

Also there's a link in the /wip/ OP to a chart listing analogous colors between companies.

>>48529849
I really hope the Tohaa commando are released soon.

>>48578458
I would pay money for a tutorial or a video of you painting. So bloody good mate.

>>48578172
>>48578311
New Djanbazan soon. WIth all the Haqq stuff right now it's the sensible thing to do.

>>48579776
>>48580119
>>48580311
I expect one to be in MO starter pack.

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>>48582140
I hope they're never released.

>>48580641
Reposting in a better format

Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
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GROUP 1 8 / 1 / 1
BRISCARD Lieutenant Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
BRISCARD Paramedic (Medikit) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
BRISCARD Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)
EQUIPE MIRAGE-5 . (2 | 69)
MARGOT AP Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (37)
DUROC 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CC Weapon. (32)
MÉTRO (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 12)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)

GROUP 26
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)

6 SWC | 300 Points

>>48582809
Looks good.

>>48582607
Lol, I've been using Kotail proxies, so I don't need them right away.

>>48582181
I don't think so. All the Djan look pretty good, there are way more important reculpts in Haqq, like Daylami, the basic rems or the support pack.

>>48580362
The sniper doesn't have dropbears. Or Albedo. Or Biometric Visor.

>>48580119
Not a blister, and is a special edition box.

>>48584459
>All the Djan look pretty good
They really don't. The hacker and sniper are passable, but the HMG Djan has aged like a fine bottle of milk.

A Daylami box would be nice, but there's loads of good Ghulams that could work as proxies. I don't see anything wrong with the support pack other than them not fitting the new Ghulam style. It's nowhere near as bad as PanO's or YJ's.

Totally agree about the basic rems though. Most factions' standard remotes are outdated, but Haqq's are especially bad.

New general: >>48584580

>>48584471
The only reason to take the sniper version is when you play sectorial and can't access the Nisse sniper, or if you are REALLY tight on points for some reason.

>>48584604
Even then...

>>48564147
Mods to look freaky aren't illegal, per say. IIRC, the problem is just the pupnik fighting rings: seems like that kind of business would involve a lot of disappearing people and dangerous (read as criminally negligent doctoring) implants. I think a piece of fluff even says that the visual/aesthetic aspects of chimera-izing is popular among up and coming 'stars'