Roleplaying as the opposite gender

None of my players or GMs ever had a problem with it.

Never done it. Don't care if people do it. Just don't be a cunt about it whether you're for or against it.

Have fun.

>>48517952
Same boat here, you can play what you want in terms of gender as long as you aren't a creep about it.

>>48517952

Just don't think too hard about it. As long as it doesn't get weird (or at least uncomfortably weird)

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>>48517952

Historically I've played a lot of female characters. I just kind of empathize with that perspective better, for some reason.

Lately I've kind of distances myself from it though. While I like the idea of female characters, I've realized I'm still a dude and it just feels weird acting out as a woman when I'm like 6 ft with a deep voice and a 5 o'clock shadow.

>>48517952
My experience has always been that guys who play female characters are slightly skeevy. Not completely horrible, but definitely deriving something slightly sexual from the experience, which makes everyone else uncomfortable.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone pulling it off well.

>>48518060
>when I'm like 6 ft with a deep voice and a 5 o'clock shadow.
They have pills that can help with that somewhat. Some people prefer bi-weekly injections or even patches.

>>48518138
I've seen dudes do it super-creepily--like, not even trying to hide that it's sexual. Another thing I see a lot is man-with-tits.

But then a guy friend of mine is in a game where he's playing a female character. I'm not part of the game, but just from what he's told me (and I trust him on it) he's doing it pretty well.

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>>48517952

I really only do it because everyone else is playing a male and I like variety in the party.

Then again, most of the people I play with are pretty new to the whole role playing part of it, so it makes sense for them. So, with me doing it it shows that they don't have to 100% identify with every aspect of their character.

>>48517952
Maybe this counts for less because I'm a foreverGM but I do it all the time. It doesn't make sense that the PCs would end up exclusively interacting with other dudes unless they were actively trying to avoid women for whatever reason.

I've had players that play as the opposite gender every now and then and it's never been an issue.

I play as female often, I mean is it any weirder than playing as a nonhuman character?

>>48517952
I always enjoy this type of discussion because I have a Goofus/Gallant style example from my own gaming history:

One of the first guys I can really recall playing a female hero was the Goofus in the story: He'd come to the sessions and drink, which would be fine, except no one else was. Further, he'd get drunk off of the single six-pack he brought, and at least once ended up vomiting in the host's toilet.

He played a half-succubus, (the whole party were Half-somethings, which the DM rolled randomly) and played it with...excessive vim.

Any time he rolled poorly on Diplomacy or Bluff, his next act was "What if I offer him a blow job?" he would then always laugh drunkenly at his own wit. He'd often describe the way his character would touch himself while talking "to be more sensual."

It was clear the rest of the room wasn't comfortable with it, but he was too drunk to care.

The next player to play a woman was more of the Gallant: his character was a Paladin of the Raven Queen, searching for her lost sister. She was the most serious member of the party, and endured the flirting of the party fop, a bard/illusionist with delusions of grandeur.

Her gender rarely came up, except in situations like renting rooms at an inn, or dressing for formal events.


So, it's a matter of feeling the group you're with, and not treating women like some foreign species.

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>>48519667

Well I mean, I have no problem with my appearance or my masculinity. I just like female characters fampai.

Don't harp on it, and it should be fine. Tbh one of the guys in our group played a paladin in full plate, and at the end of our session, she removes her helm and challenges the bone devil to a duel. Had to be one of the better dnd moments I've had.

In short don't roleplay super differently and it should be fine.

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I roleplay females but mainly because my brain thinks up random base characters and they're usually female and I just go from there.
It helps that I usually only play online though and if I was physically there I would likely play male.
That said I realized this and am trying to make more male concepts but it's difficult to break decade old habits and force ideas.

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ITT men who want to roleplay their waifus.

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I do it because I like the contrast. Playing a xenophobic inquisitor is just fun for me.

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Magical realm.

>>48522937
That's what they all say, anon.

That's what they all say.

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>>48523736

>>48517952
I don't care as long as they aren't degenerates about it.

When I do it, (and I frequently do) I roleplay them pretty gender neutrally anyways, to the point where they might as well have just been a male character. I only do them for online games though. I feel like it would be kind of weird and immersion breaking to do it in person or even over voice.

>>48522671
GMs need to be able to roleplay both genders.
GMs in general need to be more versatile ropeplayers than players.
Not better, just more versatile, because you need to play more characters, even if you are playing them more shallowly than the players.

>>48517952

Every GM does this all the fucking time. It's not hard, or weird, or some kind of indicator that the person has a fetish. Regardless of which gender you are, half of the fucking planet is going to be the other one. Complete non-issue.

>>48524017
>>48524130

I had a GM who actively hated playing out female NPCs. The only time women ever showed up in the game is if a player essentially forced him to. So if a character had a sister, or a different character was looking for barmaids.

In the case of the latter, any character who forced him to play out a sexual interest almost always wound up dead.

Don't really see the point, unless you're playing a fetish game you don't swing your axe with your dong. Properly roleplaying a female is the same as properly roleplaying a male.

Anyone have the copypasta from a few ago about this

>>48523244
they could just go to /tesg/ for that.

>>48524226
>any character who forced him to play out a sexual interest almost always wound up dead.
Well I fully support a GM saying 'fade to black', or similar if they don't want to bother with this shit, but killing off the character is a passive aggressive asshole move.
And if you hate playing female NPCs, don't GM or make a genderless setting.

Some players who make characters of the opposite gender have them act sluttier than would be reasonable or shoehorn a fetish or two in, but more often than not this isn't the case. Most people are aware that it would come across as creepy and weird their fellow players out so they tend to reign it in.

>>48524280
This

>>48523727
Good meme

>response is almost unanimously "meh, you do you"

This is a refreshing change

>>48519667
>>48523736
>perpetuating the tranny meme
kys

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>>48517971

I've had a few GM's, and players that have taken issues. It really depends on a few factors.

1. Can you roleplay a female character without making it creepy fetish wankbait?

2. Is the group you're currently in mature enough to allow you play a character of the opposite sex?

3. Will any of your IRL characteristics conflict with roleplaying a female; destroying the immersion of said game? Such as a deep manly voice, Cheeto laden neck beard. Using softer tone voice usually helps. Don't try using a female voice unless you're already good at said voice; comes off creepy, and annoying. Text based RP's need not apply

Ive only ever done it in video games

>>48517952
if any of the women I GM for wanted to play a man, I'd allow it. If the dudes in my group wanted to play a female, I'd have to discuss it with them first.

I've only had one guy express an interest in playing a character of the opposite gender, and this guy is the most That Guy of anyone in our group by a large margin. The table decided that he isn't allowed to play a woman, as it would be offensive to everyone and would likely destroy the game we're trying to take seriously.

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I tend to play pretty protective characters when it comes to their friends and comrades.
As a guy I feel can be more friendly and at times a bit stubborn, whereas with a girl I feel like I can play towards being more tender or directly/openly caring, sympathetic.
Also playing a foul mouth vs ara ara, but let's leave that aside for now.

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>>48517952
Almost all of my characters are female, including the one I consider to be my "default" for D&D. I have no idea why, but it's definitely never been a fetish/magical realm thing.

>>48517952
I've tried it many times.

In the long run, I've concluded that the only way to do it is to take advantage of the anonymity of the Internet.

>>48517952
The only time Ive experienced it was when a gay man played an elderly social engineer type. She was basically a granny with class levels in slut/courtesan and it was absolutely insufferable. This was his side character he was able to play through the leadership feat and I never played DnD again after that experience.

>>48525258
This is a change?

>>48517952
Just don't be that guy who:
1) ALWAYS plays a female
2) Is obviously playing his perfect ideal waifu
3) Makes a Mary Sue because his dick is diamonds 24/7 (goes back to point 2)

Personally, I always play males because I just prefer male trope characters, e.g. old grandpa barbarian who don't take no shit from whipper-snappers.

>>48517952
I have never played DnD. I'm a girl. Do girl characters get a strength penalty? Because if so, I suppose RP:ing my own gender would limit my class choices a bit. Not that I would mind, I prefer healsluts in video game RPG's...

>>48517952
I've never had a problem with or doing it, but it's hardly something I would bring to a table of people I haven't really met yet.

In one game, I played a female Paladin in a courtly intrigue kind of setting, using the "lady of the court" angle to be the party face. I suppose what keeps things not weird is that I've always described my character's actions in the third person (this has the side benefit of making it so the other players know my character's name), which keeps everyone an arm's length away from the fact that I'm roleplaying a marriage subplot with a very large man sitting across the table from me.

Incidentally, that subplot ended with smiting and annulment. Just like every one of her relationships - it became something of a running gag.

>>48518013
This. /tg/'s hangups don't represent the world.

Unfortunately, I know for a fact that one of my players uses his female characters as fap fuel. The guy who initially thought "crossplay" was weird, at that. Go figure.

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I don't think I've actually roleplayed a character of my race or gender since highschool when I first got into D&D. It has always worked out fine because I'm not a weird/creepy fuck about things and I know what is social acceptable at the table and what isn't.

>>48519766
>Another thing I see a lot is man-with-tits.
How different do you expect a woman *adventurer* to be from a male one? Not a lot of time to be vapid and catty on the road.

>>48530586

izzat chimneyspeak?

>>48530336
Nope, gender is pretty much meaningless for the mechanics of it. No different from deciding whether your character has green or brown eyes.

>>48530667
I mean, a warrior is a warrior. But I suppose you could play up sexist stereotypes? She's all emotional and cries a lot, craves chocolate, goes shopping for shoes in towns, demands privacy from male group members when changing/bathing, spends all morning brushing her hair, gets in a really bad mood once a month and drops spaghetti when in the presence of handsome men.

>>48530336
In extremely ancient D&D, women had a Strength penalty but a bonus to Charisma. That, however, was dropped from the game almost immediately. It's certainly not the case in AD&D (2nd Edition), 3rd Edition, 4th Edition, 5th Edition, or Pathfinder.

>>48530778
>demands privacy from male group members when changing/bathing

Not sure that specific thing counts as a sexist stereotype.

>>48530336

Play a muscle healslut who shouts people into health.

WarLORDs!

>>48530746
>gender is pretty much meaningless for the mechanics of it.
Unless you're playing AD&D 1e, and even then it's just a slightly lower chargen maximum.

>>48530804
An adventurer group is more or less like the military. In most of history that means dudes being naked in front of each other semi-regularly. In countrys where women are allowed service quite a few don't make exceptions based on sex. Insisting on that "mark of civilization" to me seems like a bit of a classically feminine thing.

>>48517952
I've both played grills as a man and seen men and women play their opposites. I've even seen a few creative genderless robotic killing-abominations

Thankfully and luckily so far, I've never had a magical realm issue that wasn't at most lighthearted fun in my decade of RPG shittery. I'd probably recommend giving even the most fapbaity character a single session at least to try to shine before rockfalling at this point

>>48530851
WarLADY?

>>48530786
>In extremely ancient D&D, women had a Strength penalty but a bonus to Charisma.
Source? It's not in OD&D, Holmes Basic, B/X, or 1e.

>Didn't think I would ever meet someone that had a legit problem with this outside of a 4chan /pol/ recluse.
>Playing through Hoard of the Dragon Queen when 5th first came out.
>Getting near the end of Rise of Tiamat
>Start planning for the next game
>Decide that I want to play a female character
>DM starts acting really weird around me
>Starts becoming more hostile towards me
>If I make ANY sort of innuendo, on purpose or accident, towards another player, DM gets really quiet and then a little more pissy with me in general.
>One day, this rage boils over and we get into a huge argument about the character over one feature that literally didn't even matter
>It got so heated and aggressive that I wound up having to leave the group

Now I just DM for groups of my choosing. I'll play all the girls I want and flirt with ALL of the boys.

>>48530970
DM was closet tranny or homo.

Or worse; a feminist.

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>>48523736

>>48530851
"GET UP PUSSY"

>>48530988
Where's the one with the dick down the side that has the layer with shit like 'peach is a colour'?

>>48530970
>I'll play all the girls I want and flirt with ALL of the boys.
This makes me think your GM was in the right.

>>48517952
Just last night I played my first female character.
A gunslinging woman in the Wild West.
(A system where being a woman actually is a drawback) so I was pretty prepared for what I might have to play/experience and it went pretty much as expected, some idiots and dumb asses hitting on her and being creepy (mostly just one NPC that was supposed to be creepy, and then some in the group but they were (mostly) just playing their characters.

All in all, great success.

>>48531021
That'sthejoke.mcbanesucks

>>48530951
He's probably thinking of the old 18.5 vs 18.0 limit thing, when there were gender- and race- based ability score maximums.

>>48530882
For that matter, in a number of times and places throughout history it was perfectly normal for men and women to share public bathing. Gender-segregation in that particular context is actually a fairly recent development.

>>48517952
I play female characters every now and then (perhaps ~40% of the time, if I had to guess), and it's never been an issue. It's no more of a disconnect than playing a non-human character, or one who's living in a drastically different world or period than you're own. I suppose it also helps that we play online, so there's no visible discrepancy between the player's voice or appearance and the character's.

The only time one of those character's gender ever really came up in the fist place was when the group kept jokingly shipping her and another party member. But that was all in good fun and kept mostly OOC, so it was just pretty hilarious. Besides, we ended up making that pairing a real thing in the setting background for a sequel campaign, so that actually turned out to be pretty cool.

>>48517952
I usually play female characters, but not always. They're technically all lesbians, but it never really comes up, and when it has it's good for a chuckle and that's basically all.

Nobody in my group likes to act all sleazy at the table, and i think that's what it's really all about.
We've occasionally had situations where it made sense for someone's character to seduce an NPC and fade-to-black or something like that, but we just don't get all creepy about it like you silly fuckers.

>>48517952
The first female I played was a former nanny who became a witch. Sort of an evil Mary Popins.

Played her as a well meaning busybody and became group leader.

>>48517952
>opposite gender

...

gender is a continuum. it is not binary.

>>48532615
Tumblr please go and stay go

>>48532615
You're either a man, a woman or a faggot.

>>48517952
I've found that most issues in cross-gender roleplay come from not having a fleshed out character. When confronted with a new situations people tend to fall back on broad generalizations. So make sure you have an actual character to play, not just a concept, it'll help.

I think you're on the right track with making your character abstinent. It'll help limit any unpleasant interactions, but I also worry if that will be limiting to you. The best cross gender player I've ever seen was a guy who played an older lady (40ish or somthing?) who was already married. It served the same purpose as what you're doing but didn't limit parts of the character.

Whenever I make a new character, female or male, I think up a few key points, then use some random backstory generators and kind of sew the two together like a frankenstein monster. I think it works well to have a character with a couple of contradictions and flaws baked in.

Personally, my best cross-gender character was a female Thaumaturge using FATE. Her motivation was that she wanted to use magic in civic projects to make the commoners lives better. I boosted the contacts and rapport skills and had her playing a dangerous game of flirtation and courtship with one of city's nobles, a jealous but honorable Enchanter named Lord Timothy. So while my character's sexuality was present in the game, it was tied up and directed at one person so it didn't get weird. And it wasn't like, "dur, sex the nobel now" either. The only time that remotely happened was when I had to burn a fate point to reroll a check. It played out as a lingering kiss that convinced him to give us the resources that we needed.

I'm not opposed to playing a female character, but it might break immersion when everybody else is sitting across the table from me and having to stare at a 30-something man with pattern baldness narrating a female character's dialogs.

It probably makes more sense for people to stick with characters who represent their own gender or gender identity.

As for computer RPGs, that's another story. I mix and match characters of different genders all the time since I'm not actually having to role-play them.

>>48530336
>Not that I would mind, I prefer healsluts in video game RPG's...
pls be in london

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>>48523554
so is that a heretic monster or do you actually burn little lolis to death?

One of my players played a Female Human Sorcerer and roleplayed her as this gimmicky, shoddy psychic. Put on a hilarious voice and always had her smoking it was a great character.

>>48534243
6 of one, a half dozen of the other.

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>>48534261
you messed up freak. I'll take you to court.

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>>48534279
I am the court.

>>48529370
>I always play the same gender but YOURE NOT ALLOWED
the that guy is (you)

>>48517952
Requires more effort than any other character, just because you need to constantly talk in voice and remember of the proper grammar gender when aggitated. And that's regardless if you are a guy role-playing a chick or chick role-playing a guy.
Still, never had any issues about it whatsoever.

And I know one thing for sure - if it's done in PBF or similar stuff, then it works absolute wonders, because there is nothing distracting you, just the pure description. At table it at times might be hard just to cope with the dissonance between the player and the character, but that applies to all characters, not just when doing opposite gender.

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>>48534288
if you think witches don't have their own justicars you are sorely mistaken.

>>48534300
Anon, please don't turn this into yet another faggy roleplaying thread.

>>48534314
this is more like out of character table banter.

>>48534325
>excuses excuses
Fuck off and die.

>>48534084
Look around you, we're all faggots here regardless of gender.

>>48523244
roleplay one's waifu? never. That would totally devalue her.

>>48524762
>Well I fully support a GM saying 'fade to black'
I always prefered playing some kind of chicken with my players. Totally react nonchalantly to their advances and never stop roleplaying. Whoever asks for a fade to black first IS WEAK AND SHALL BE BURNED AT THE STAKE FOR BREAKING ROLEPLAY AND CHARACTER

>>48524904
>Some players who make characters of the opposite gender have them act sluttier than would be reasonable
the other way round is even more often the case and much more boring. Playing once again a female paladin / monk who tries to prevent the whole sexuality / gender theme from coming up to not be considered lewd is sooooo boring

>>48517952

Honestly I never understood why people would do this and always assumed it was a fetish thing until I tried it. It was really fun and challenging. I've only done it the once (actually that current game is ongoing) but I can definitely see myself doing it every now and again in the future. As long as you don't make it overly complicated, or weird, I really see no reason ot can't be done.

>>48517952
the most extreme part I ever played was a fluent changeling. only showed sexuality and gender of whichever form he had at that time. the "true" self was completely genderless which was really hard to aim at without going full robot

>>48535356
Do y'all never play anything high-fantasy-ish? I mean, after you've roleplayed as something like a bipedal amphibian from a caste-based bronze-age society, it seems like simply playing as a human of the female persuasion would be comparatively straightforward.

>>48530336
>I prefer healsluts
Oh I'm sure you do, you dirty supportwhore. No deplete your mana healing the main PC and say thank you!

>>48534215
Stockholm, sorry.

>>48535949
kek

>>48535704

This would seem to be true, but I have found that in some cases the farther from reality something is the easier it is to roleplay. No one really knows what a bipedal anthropomorphic bronze age fish man would be, so as long as you decide before hand, make a somewhat reasonable charicterization, and are consistent, you can play it well. People know what a Han woman is supposed to be like, that makes it harder to do well because they have something to measure against, and so do you. At least that's my though process. For the record I have played high fantasy, a lot, but the one I'm in now with the female character is modern setting.

>>48518060

Same

>>48529370
so you playing your male waifus is okay?!

>>48523554

>You see this shit? This is why we burn things.

>>48530582
it's called trolling. he obviously tried to make a point by doing it.

>>48530778
you just described every Chaotic Neutral character, regardless of gender

players are a weird kind

>>48517952
When I'm the GM I'm kinda forced to do that.

Is it weird that when I have played a female character I've always made them very grounded and flawed, usually with some physical impairment?

One was an alcoholic with a fucked up leg with an Arbalest.

Another was a heartless longsword duellist who never got over losing some fingers and having her jaw cleaved in the only duel she ever lost.

The last was an alchemist who experimented on orphans and homeless paupers and stole the corpses of recently executed criminals to sell to universities.

i started my first female character last year in the fall, female barbarian in 5e

of course i'm playing as the red sonja type, she goes unarmored (plan on upping that con to help, since unarmored barb gets con to AC, plus more HP).

nobody has cared, the few ladies that play with us like her since i've literally saved everyone's asses with her more than once.

>>48536298
>The last was an alchemist who experimented on orphans and homeless paupers and stole the corpses of recently executed criminals to sell to universities
what's her flaw than?

I'm playing a female anthro character. Nobody at my table thinks it's bad. Stop letting /tg/ represent reality

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I always go into machoman overdrive whenever I play a male character, any sense of vulnerability, care for safety goes out the window, it often just ends up in out big balling everyone else. Even in vidya. For instance in L4D where I usually either picked random or joined games in progress. Whenever I got Francis, it was super90 all day erryday, rushing every map regardless of difficulty and making sure I got at least twice as many kills and the number two guy and solo the tank if I can get away with it. Suddenly when I then end up playing Zoey, I'm somehow just fine covering people's back and playing super safe and just letting everyone else decide the pace. Then when I end up with Bill it's back to killing all of the zombies, but with emphasis on keeping the group together and keeping a steady pace. Rainbow Six I somehow also lose most sense of giving a fuck when I play Rook or Thermite, casually strolling in and out of cover with a shotgun on Rook or just walking around shooting like the terminator in a police station on Thermite, when using IQ, it's sneaking around and and supporting the rest of the team.

Then when I play RPGs, almost every male character seems like they belong in an 80s action movie, and then when I end up with a frail rogue psyker, it's all about pushing all the psychic powers all day erryday and not giving a fuck, sure I'll get sucked into the warp and attempted possessed by a lord of change because I rocked so hard I got two perils at once, but that's cool, I'll just roll some willpower saves and tell it to fuck off while telling my friend also playing psyker to stop being a slack jawed faggot and push his powers if he ever hopes to be a sexual tyrannosaurus, only for him to summon a bloodletter, and then me telling him to push his powers to kill it, because what's the worst that could happen? He kills the bloodletter summons another bloodletter which cleaves him in half. Meanwhile I have about 50+ corruption points about 4 sessions in.

>>48536542
Im going to go out on a limb and say that she doesn't have a head for business.

>>48517952
One of my favorite characters was a chick I played in a Rifts game.

She was basically Ellen Ripley

>>48536586
that's why male characters are superior in all things bureaucracy. They have two heads.

>>48537125
You'd think so, but doesn't one of them have a terrible habit of trying to get in the other's way no matter how wrong it is?

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I've thought up a few female characters, but am only playing one for the first time since a few weeks. Honestly, I think it started out related to my magical realm, gender bender is my fetish, but when I'm playing her I'm so focused on the game my fetish doesn't even enter the picture. I just play her as a female character.

A different character I thought up one time is really very fetishy: It was a guy who volunteered to be guinea pig for an experiment to be transported to the feywild, but ended up trapped in the body of a pixie (it was DnD4e). He returned many many years later and would go in search of his original body. Pic related, that was to be her. Yeah, I never played that character.

Video games: A lot of females because the animators know great tushies!

RP: Not my cup o tea, but that said, everyone remembers the ones I do play. It really isn't that much different than roleplaying an elf or draconian, you have to get your head into the act. What would a female fetchling bard do? It really is just another dimension of role play.

>>48537949
>gender bender is my fetish, but when I'm playing her I'm so focused on the game my fetish doesn't even enter the picture
because it is already satisfied. and there's nothing wrong with that

>>48517952
I'm a guy, I usually play female characters. I'm a massive weeb, and always use cute anime portraits for the tokens. Occasionally I make my characters extremely slutty and whoreish, but I never make ugly characters (even when I play male characters). My favorite type of character concept is basically the corrupt evil bitch, who's actually really petty and extremely cowardly, and would sell out her comrades and more besides in a heartbeat if it came to that.

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>>48538233
We should talk about your relationship with your mother, ja?

>>48538233

Are you overweight?

>>48538751
No, I'm tall and thin.

>>48538160
No, it's not even like that. I'm not thinking about how hot it is that my male mind is in a female body (sort of speaking). I'm thinking about what this girl would do if she was in that situation. My fetish is not satisfied at that moment, because it's not there, and it's not there because I'm doing something that isn't related to my sexual gratification. At that moment, the fetish has nothing to do with my character anymore.

>>48517952
I play females with low Cha scores and scars often cause i think its cooler to have a female veteran than a male one dunno why

I'm not good at roleplaying the opposite gender. Usually just end up a dude with tits.

>>48530717
No, but its the same artist. Its one of his WIP: Carbon Pink.