ITT: Things we have NEVER said or posted but truly believe about /tg/

I'll start:

I actually think elves are cool, I just hate the Tolkien part.

I'm a huge nerd.
I started watching "Roll 20" a webshow about professional voice actors playing DnD.

I realized, watching other people be nerdy makes me feel REALLY uncomfortable.

>>48508627
I hate what anime/interpretation based on japanese culture has done to elves in popular culture, but I like interpretations closer to the fey or the Norse alfar.

>>48508689
Perfect. My true-to-thread post is that I secretly LIKE the anime-ification of elves. Never told anyone ever.

From are fucking stupid.

>>48508618
The "stat me" threads should be against the rules

>>48508618
Are you sure anon /tg/ gamer is autistic, or just obsessed about the rules? Or is this the same thing?

>>48508718
...what?

>>48508788
Auto correct. Drow sorry

Reddit is actually a valuable resource, especially concerning 5e homebrew, but with other RPG Systems as well. They are great for focus and getting Shit done in that regard, but they're so compartmentalized that they lack the creative freedom /tg/ has. Other than that, they're fine.

Also, 5e is a great system.

>>48508618
Too many generals

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>>48508984
LLLLLEEEEAAAAAAAVVVEEEE

I enjoy /r/makeyourchoice more than CYOA generals

>>48508618
/tg/ never actually gets shit done. It's always one or two dedicated anons doing all the work and everyone else are idea guys.

I like elves and dwarves equally.

>>48508618
For all the shit that happens here, /tg/ is one of the better boards. Intelligent discussion is actually possible here (usually)

/tg/ was better when the weekend smut thread was around.

>>48509090
What would you like to see "get done"

Clarify yourself

>>48509090
Just like every business everywhere. 2 pins holding the whole contraption together.

/tg/ was better when smut was an instaban.

> 5e is cancer
> most /tg/ homebrews are shit
> engine heart is shit
> dungeon world is a terrible game
> savage worlds fucking sucks
> elves are awesome
> tieflings, thrikeen, drow, kender, etc. should never have been added to D&D
> edo for the win
> steampunk is fucking awesome if you make it fantasy steampunk instead of victorian bullshit
> shadowrun is a shit system, as is World of Darkness
> GURPS is pretty good
> FATE is pretty good but sucks in execution
> most of the RPGs out there are total shit and not worth playing
> one or two "le cool mechanics" do not make an RPG worth playing
> if you contribute to kickstarters you are a nu male faggot. No exceptions.

>>48509209
When was that exactly?

/tg/ has occasionally had some of the most intelligent and civilized discussions about religion that I have ever seen on the internet.

>>48508618
Sphinx's rev for 15 is a legitimate win condition.

>>48509213
>nu male
/v/, pls go and stay go. Your board is a shithole that hates its subject matter with a burning passion.

>>48509213
> most /tg/ homebrews are shit

this hurts me

/tg/ is dinner than /v/ and less capable than them at rational, mature discussion

Given the opportunity at least 90% of anon's would actively indulge in their magical realm with others who share the same or similar magical realms and no qualms.

>>48509257
Dumber than /v/, even

>>48509257
... What?

>>48509244
truth always hurts

>>48509317
Yeah.
/tg/ does get shit done sometimes, there is proof of that.

>>48509257
>/v/
>rational, mature discussion
Mention No Man's Sky, see how rational and mature they are then. They get even more triggered than SHILL, REEEEEEEEE! Anon when a Kill Six Billion Demons thread comes up on /tg/

I legit hate elves. To the point I have to stop myself from being a human supremacist in every game I play.

>>48508647
This.
I tell myself I'm not that bad, but I'm probably worse.

Quests are cancer that clog up the board and should all move to the dedicated quest board.

>>48509466
Go back to /pol/ and play Holy Race War there

>>48509277
Discussion outside of circlejerk is possible here, it isn't on /v/.

>>48509466
/pol/, pls go and stay go. Don't you have some guns and pictures of Trump to wank onto?

I've played Dwarfs in damn near every fantasy game I've ever had or participated in. I don't actually like Dwarfs. I just have this weird thing about my height and playing people shorter than me makes me feel better.

I don't let my players to sex. Fade to black. Always.

>>48508971
To be fair, the from also are pretty god damn stupid

I wonder if there actually is a statistically relevant ennui with Tolkienesque fantasy or if its just /tg/ parrotting some contrarian oppinion until it appears as consense of all fantasy fandom.

I love and hate that /tg/ has opened me up to history and mythology. There's a wonderful world of quirky details too weird and more fascinating than OC could ever hope to be, but at the same time I catch myself spotting incorrect adaptions in fantasy all the time now.

Both of these points torment me as I am writing a setting that has the opportunity to be used in a commercial product and I'm beating myself up over getting it 'right' or people may tear it to pieces because I made a mistake.

>>48509664
Is "from" a real fantasy monster?

I peed in my cat's anus.

>>48508618
it has a weird sense of taste that I find mostly boring. i have to really dig to find an interesting thread.

I enjoy magical realm threads every so often.
I hate 5e theoretically but its ability to get players makes it my go-to system (which I homebrew heavily depending on the campaign).
I love the overly attatched or yandere 'character' and have one wherever appropriate.
One of my old PCs is pretty much a downplayed Gary Sue in my setting, and his history has influenced the plot pretty heavily.
People think I'm a good DM, I think I'm shit.
Part of me itches to run a quest.

>>48508647
Have you seen vin diesel play DnD?
Dungeons and Diesel.

>>48509475
OP said "Things we have NEVER said", anon

>>48508618

Underneath the hate, there is a well of infinite worlds drowning.

>>48508618
you guys are alright

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>>48508618
Most of you guys are pretty cool.

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>>48509494
>Discussion outside of circlejerk is possible here
Pffffft

>>48508984
I genuinely hate reddit. Every once in awhile, I think "Hey, a real intelligent person should explore every avenue available" and then I go to a few sub reddits I might find interesting, and every single time, I just really feel like they aren't anywhere as near knowledgeable as 4chan. They're much more polite, but you can see that the hugbox effect of their ideas means that their beliefs don't get challenged very often so they don't have the need to sharpen their edge.

On topic:

I genuinely don't believe that 80% of the people here who hate D&D have actually played it. I see them all the time posting in threads to not play D&D, and every once in awhile, I chase them down and ask what game they THINK is better. They always post:
>Something that isn't even fantasy genre
>A game that is an over glorified book of someone's house rules for D&D or even an outright retroclone.
>Something so rules light that they aren't even really playing a game anymore at that point
>Outright ignore me, and then shitpost common myths held about 3.5, or commonly held 'problems' with the system, even going so far as to decry anyone who tries to fix the problem through houserules without the complainer doing anything about other than saying "Don't play it".

Seriously, this shit is worse than when /lit/ says that video game stories are ALL garbage.

>>48509983
Video game stories are all garbage. There. Now /tg/ said it.

>>48509740
Fromsoft are kind of retarded, I thought he was just cross-posting from /v/

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The more /tg/ tries to be purely about traditional games the worse it gets. One of /tg's strongest points has always been the variety of interests and personalities it attracts. Almost everything good that has come out of /tg/ has come from our willingness to entertain anything and everything. To discuss whatever is in front of us with whoever is willing to participate. This has breed curiosity and diplomacy in the best of us.


When it actually comes to purely /tg/ related topics, without nay kind of outside additions, we're middling at best. Not bad, really, better than most other sites, but that's more of a sad reflection on them as it is positive on us. But without history, art or horse biology to talk about most of our threads end up being fairly formulaic and repetitive.


>Alien angels, TRUE lovecraftian themes, TRUE sword and sorcery spirit, alignment sucks, something about D&D tropes, paladins, shades of grey -4strength, historical morality, human fighter, someone brings up black company, point buy is better, old school is best, THAT GUY, realism
It's not bad but it's not particularly insightful or interesting. When these topics do come up the comments seem to mostly be self centred. What discussion there is seems to often be somewhat shallow and filled with memes. There isn't much in the way of collaboration just posting.
Without something outside to spark our imaginations we aren't much better than any other board.

It's probably mostly nostalgia but it feels like /tg/ has only grown more samey. Nothing can be all good but it just seems the good doesn't come around as often and when it does it's not welcome.
It feels like it's been so long since /tg/ has made me excited about something.
Maybe it's time to leave.

>>48509475
Well, since you've pointed out the elephant in the room, why the fuck ARE quest threads still allowed here? At first, I was reporting them for being off topic since they have their own board, but what the actual fuck, it's been months.

>>48510196
>One of /tg's strongest points has always been the variety of interests and personalities it attracts.
It attracts one personality with one interest: the mindless contrarian eaher to dole out worthless trivia and prove his elitism

>>48509718
I can confirm I have personal ennui with Tolkien himself, not necessarily the generic fantasy. And that's honestly because his writing is dry and focuses on rather boring things, even from a world-building perspective. Plus, honestly, his worlds don't ever feel that magical to me. Orks, trolls, and goblins are the lowest of fantasy elements to me, and I'd prefer my casters to have a little more pew pew and a little less. . .doing whatever?

As far as generic fantasy goes, I'm for it. Hell, I LOVE the Dragon Quest series.

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>>48510206
It's because the mods all suck quest dick.

>>48510256
Tolkein was more concerned with creating Quenya than focusing on his world-building.

>>48509466
If you think your masculine values are under attack, you probably have pretty flimsy masculine values.

Actual aesthetes wouldn't feel threatened by anyone not ascribing to their interpretation.

>>48509718
>>48510256
While aged, I wouldn't call him dry. Sterile is the word I'd use, especially in his worldbuilding.

The people who post about HFY and derail threads about non-humans in sci-fi are legitimately worse than the people who want to bring their magical realm into it.

>>48510262
>grab a random poll that was most likely proxy voted to shit both ways
>PROOFS!

Jesus, you've managed to be worse than fucking /pol/ and their infographics.

I genuinely believe that this board is undermoderated and that there are people who exploit that.

/tg/ needs to stay apolitical.

>>48510440
What, you don't like the three dozen daily MAGICAL REALM TEEHEE~~~ threads?

I miss Broquest. Been trying to piece all the content for it together to run a campaign in it.

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>>48509983
The only useful subreddits I've found are for certain videogames, such as Dark Souls or Morrowind, or for specialized porn (but good luck finding any of those on purpose).

The default subreddits all seem even more out of touch with the world than the 4chan boards I've bothered going to. It must have something to do with the upvote system. I can't think of what else it would be.

>>48508618
The people who flip their shit about scalies or furries or whatever when something with dog ears or scales shows up in a thread are a fucking cancer and I wish they'd go do something productive. You're on 4chan for Christ sakes. Furshit is some of the tamest stuff on the site.

>>48510463
The magical realm, the thread-ruining /pol/shit, whatever in God's name Virt was

Well, at least virt's been removed. But we all have a little Virt in our hearts.

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>>48510422
The poll was actually from some stupid article about whether you should get paid vacation when you get a pet (return in response to some me-ternity editorial). I just capped the result and use it for chuckles. Never did I purport it to be any sort of poll in relation to the thing I was talking about.

In other news, found the questfag.

>>48510469
I use two boards.

r/Parahumans because it's essentially the hub for Worm discussion

And r/smashbros or r/ssbm because it's damn hard to get melee discussion on /v/ that isn't shitposted to death

>>48510511
>Worm discussion

Sticky this thread. Everyone pay attention. Make /tg/ great again!

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I unironically like Ironclaw.

>>48510440
Being apolitical is a political statement.

>>48511062
If that was really the case then I should be allowed to start threads on /pol/ that are nothing but pictures of squirrels.

>>48509119
well idk about that but theres a huge autistic knowledge base here that doesn't exist too many other places i've been on the internet.
and yet that same autism that makes the knowledge base so vast also gets triggered by the same things over and over and over again, derailing lots of good (and lots of horrible) threads. like seriously, /tg/ is probably the most triggerable board i go on.

>>48509983
I think their /tesg/ stuff is better than ours, kirklejerking aside. Then again, there's /r/trueSTL for joking about that.

>>48510174
thats what I thought he meant originally, and I was all ready to agree with him even though I love soulsborne.

I try to avoid and diffuse anyone talking about /pol/ in threads of good stuff because I am pretty sure most of us are terrible but we can ignore that here sometimes.

>>48509090

/tg/ seems to get a lot done, actually, but projects outgrow the confines of what the board can provide and the most dedicated producers second into a new communication avenue when the anonymity and community of 4chan turns too cancerous or simply gets in the way of progress. It's a launchpad, and ideas can make a great start here, but they either grow beyond the board's confines or are killed by exactly the conditions that allowed them to thrive.

>>48510196

I started browsing here around 2010. And I completely agree with you.

Unfortunately, the landscape of 4chan as a whole has changed such that compartmentalizing discussion and making them more formulaic is often the goal. Generals have served this purpose since their inception.

The site is changing. /tg/ possibly more than other boards because of the upheavals it experienced. Its sad, but no amount of complaining can bring it back.

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I really appreciate the effort a lot of people put into creating truly interesting fantasy roleplaying settings with original races and unique magic, but I've found in my actual experience of GMing that at the end of the day most players WANT their elves and dwarves and dragons, and get kind of listless if there's none of that to latch onto.

I'm interested in exploring those common fantasy archetypes with interesting spins put on them or just going about them from a different angle, but I've found again and again that when you sit down at the table and start up a game of D&D (or your high fantasy game of choice - I've also seen this with Burning Wheel), most players want to know what they're getting into when they see a dwarf. "Goblin" and "Halfling" elicit more engagement than trying to explain the world's view on your unique crustacean merchant nomads and their culture.

That's not to say that people never engage with things that are original, just that most people who sit down to play an explicitly fantasy setting tend to want elves, and elves they can quickly grasp the general concept of at that. It's like their buy-in: people just get bored if there's not those familiar aspects to latch onto before they can start exploring the more nuanced parts of the setting.

>>48508618
/tg/ was at it's best when it was a replacement for all of the other boards, off-topic discussions here were better than most of the internet on-topic.

I miss bitches for Thulsa Doom.

I wish /r9k/ and /pol/ would shut the fuck up. There's good ideas buried in a lot of historical and cultural resources, but as soon as /r9k/ gets a whiff of women or /pol/ gets a whiff of niggers they start bawling like yappy-type dogs when the mailman comes to the door and the thread dies.

And then people complain that everything's the same derivative tolkien/medievalist/euro-historic/generic fantasy and nothing new ever comes up or is ever explored except not!Asian settings for Exotic™ setting splatbooks.

>>48508618

The people who say "/pol/ go away" always attract more shitposting than if the statement was left alone.
And further, 90% of the time its somebody just saying something lightly racist, which wouldn't have even batted an eye 6-8 years ago.

I remain convinced that anyone who complains about /pol/ is either someone not familiar with 4chan or is deliberately attempting to derail the thread.

>>48508618

I believe the mods censor any conservative thought while encouraging and husbanding liberalism.

I do not believe this is a conspiracy, but rather a natural result of conservatives having day jobs while liberals are living uselessly at home and are more hungry for authority.

Oh, wait, you meant things related to traditional games? I think male elves should be the most ripped, manly bastards and crush pussy constantly.

I believe quests are /tg/ related, due to role playing games being one of the things that /tg/ is about. I also have no idea why some Anons are opposed to them.

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>>48508618

I believe lesbian PCs should be banned as a matter of course, regardless of the player's gender or sexual orientation.

>>48512406
Even if the player is actually a lesbian?

>>48512406
What if you have like, an irl lesbian as a player

I believe that /qst/ is for shitty quest threads and /tg/ is for good quest threads.

>>48509180

This, and we should've kept the ERP generals too. Why did we have to get rid of porn at all? Anyone who browses 4chan from work deserves what they get if they're caught.

>>48509239
>t. numale

Shave.

>>48512434
Depending on who you ask, the weekend smut threads and erp generals were actively sabotaged and made to look like they were spamming the boards by some third party, for whatever reason.

I never looked too much into that.

I haven't played a game of WFRP in more than a decade, and the WFB generals are the closest thing I come to playing Warhammer anymore.

None of my current gaming group is interested, I can't find anyone around here who plays WFRP and my old Warhammer group have long since given up the hobby.

I feel dead inside.

These may be unrelated points.

>>48512400
Because there was so many of them, and a good number of them weren''t good/didn't stick around long which led to more quest threads being made.

Not saying that quests don't belong on /tg/ in some capacity, it's just that there was so fucking many that even a questfag like me got tired of it at times.

/tg/ needs to stop jacking itself off so fucking much.
It's complete cancer and ruining this place.

>>48512445
the >t. meme is the new "smug anime girl reaction image" of "ignore my opinions, I am from /v/"

>>48509438

Why stop yourself? I don't.

>>48509213
You sound like a kind of toxic person and generally not very fun to play games with

>>48512479
Have you ever actually used /v/?
Have you ever actually used a board that isn't /tg/?

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>>48510206
>he thinks the mods care
>he thinks shitposting about /qst/ in a quest thread doesn't just get the post quietly deleted

Every single person needs to be perma banned in this thread.
I'll take one for the team.

>>48510206
The mods ultimately sided with the quest community against the new board and have historically banned people who complained about quests still being here.

>>48512506
Oh hey thanks for reminding me, here's another one

>people who get pissy about meta threads are obnoxious as all hell and in large parts responsible for how stagnant board culture feels these days

>>48512518
>Meta thread.
I'm talking about all the toxic circle jerking going on right now.

While I can appreciate that in terms of design and mechanics Talisman is terribly archaic and backwards, it's among the most fun I've ever had playing boardgames with friends and a few beers.

>>48512508

But then why not delete /qst/? Seems its relatively active still. This weird half-and-half limbo bugs the shit out of me
I still don't understand why they didn't move right away. Mods gave them all the tools in the world to make neato formatting and shit.

Art threads from 2010ish are the only reason I keep coming back to this board. The camaraderie built up on those threads was pretty amazing, and I loved just the sheer creativity that would stem from those threads. After 2013 I stopped hosting them and I feel like /tg/ has been weird ever since.

I dunno. It's pure nostalgia goggles and I know that, but /tg/ has a lot of things going on I'm just not interested in. I come back for the pfg and 5eg and wodg, but even with all the fucking Quests gone (and they're not, for whatever reason), /tg/ lacks the same energy it used to have. The same spirit and camaraderie. I've looked for it on other sites, but have never been able to find it. Especially not on Reddit. 4chan still has all the knowledge and power, but it's just... I dunno.

>>48509485

/pol/ here, Racial Holy War is shit and has shit rules, including white people being the weakest race in the setting, weapons don't even have stats, and the overall premise is stupid. You don't need a specific system for something like that, just clarity of purpose.

The best /pol/ games by far are Dark Heresy, for killing nonhuman/traitorous NPCs, and Rogue Trader for doing the same to PCs.

>>48509466

A genuine numale doesn't care about those values or views them as a detriment. To him, courage is something that belongs only to the victimized, confidence is a symptom of privilege, and honor is a code used to maintain "systemic" inequalities. There is a reason why they are craven, submissive, and subversive.

>>48509494

How can you make anyone do anything if you don't have the force to back it up? Also, pretty ironic given the rest of your post that you talk about speaking outside the circlejerk and then scream at /pol/ to leave. Actually, we're grateful to you, because you stifle any discussion of politics on your boards everyone politically inclined comes to us eventually. Like me, most of them originally planned to troll "those naughty nazis", but then they start reading the links, learning the facts, and bit by bit the caul is peeled from their eyes until another full-fledged /pol/ack joins the ranks. Danke, brother, for your contribution. Keep up the good work!

I don't dislike quests but the ones that stayed on /tg/ need to go to their dedicated board, calling them skirmishes or other buzzwords is just bullshit. Any quests still on /tg/ are almost universally terrible

>>48509213
Ugh, guys... it's Virt. He's back, and he's been trolling the /5eg/ threads with Dungeon World shit, trying to get people to hate on both systems by starting a flame war. Ignore him.

>>48512584

It seems more polarized to me. There's less willingness to talk to other people, and less being in on the joke. Someone mentions women or trans or niggers or something, and suddenly everyone loses their minds. No more can we touch on simple subject matter because the thread will be derailed by shitposting. There's no more humor in it, no more willingness to explore possibilities within taboo, no more divorcing the IRL from fantasy land; the autists won't have it because it's badwrongfun.

>>48512642

Also virt's never left. He can't stay away, he needs us.

I say to my group that I don't mean to play female characters 90% of the time but it's always completely intentional and I just genuinely enjoy playing female characters, I have no genuine interest in ERP and I've never actually wanted to be a woman IRL. It's just a thing I do. Why can't people separate reality from a game of pretend?

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I run a quest on /tg/ and I am never, ever moving to /qst/.

>>48509655

I'm gonna level with you as someone who's had GMs like that. If you're playing online they're cybering in another window. Guaranteed. If you're playing offline I can't imagine how awkward it would be if you didn't fade to black.

>>48510196
>The more /tg/ tries to be purely about traditional games the worse it gets. One of /tg's strongest points has always been the variety of interests and personalities it attracts. Almost everything good that has come out of /tg/ has come from our willingness to entertain anything and everything. To discuss whatever is in front of us with whoever is willing to participate. This has breed curiosity and diplomacy in the best of us.

This. This this this this this. Seeing people get banned for being offtopic feels absolutely surreal.

Call it being childish, but I refuse to accept the compartmentalization. I'll bring back the /tg/ I remember or get pulled into the void still trying to haul the board on my back. That's the only course I find heroically acceptable.

>>48510245

Good, I'd rather run into that asshole and verbally headbutt him than never encounter him.

>>48512594
>Like me, most of them originally planned to troll "those naughty nazis", but then they start reading the links, learning the facts, and bit by bit the caul is peeled from their eyes until another full-fledged /pol/ack joins the ranks.

Please don't kid yourself.

The only time anyone who wasn't already an /r9k/-tier social reject was ever successfully "redpilled" was when /v/ got so salty over a feminist talking about video games that they all latched onto the nearest opposing ideology

The entire alt-right movement online outside of Europe is predicated wholly on nerds getting angry that girls said mean things about nerd culture. When Drumpf loses the election in November you're back to being completely irrelevant.

>>48512659
Why is it a problem that you play predominately female characters? There has to be some reason for you have to say that you don't mean to always play female characters.

>>48512658

That's one of the things that gets me. I mean, I'm near enough to a SJW but I have a pretty thick skin. I got the tongue-in-cheek of back in the day, when we could have "Can we have a thread about fantasy based on African culture and mythology?" and it wouldn't turn into a BUNGUBUNGU thread. We could have a MASTERWORK BASTARD SWORD BULLSHIT thread and laugh our asses off and enjoy it for what it was. Not even /pol/-baiting, there was a time we could have an honest, and sometimes sarcastic, thread about stuff like that without my fellow SJW freaking the fuck out, and proto/pol/tards breathing fire at the sheer mention of something beyond standard fare. We could talk. We could listen. We could let a thread exist even if we disagreed with the basis. It didn't have to be a yelling contest, and it wasn't an echo chamber.

But then, that's the world these days.

>>48511985

Do it man. /pol/ has enough renegade fa/tg/uys who just wanted to DEUS VULT for real that they'll somehow turn it into a nuanced commentary on the Rothschilds and the evils of the banking system.

>>48512720

Addendum: except edition threads. Somehow that seems more civil now than it ever was back in the day, and I will give current /tg/ credit where it's due.

>>48512696
>Call it being childish, but I refuse to accept the compartmentalization. I'll bring back the /tg/ I remember or get pulled into the void still trying to haul the board on my back. That's the only course I find heroically acceptable.
Yet refuses to make room for real discussion by moving his ass to /qst/
Ironic

>>48512594
>best /pol/ games by far are Dark Heresy, for killing nonhuman/traitorous NPCs, and Rogue Trader for doing the same to PCs.
You do know that the 40k setting is pretty fundamentally based in a satire of all that shit, right? 40k being seen as /pol/ is poe's law writ large.

>>48512698
Oh, how wrong you are. The whole /pol/ movement that actually becomes mainstream was born out of a deep frustration coupled with a false class identification.
It's not going anywhere unless we find some alternative.

>>48512720
>But then, that's the world these days.
Somewhat unrelated but wasn't this a codec point in MGS2? Something about individual collectives agreeing their own truths and pissing it into the wind.

>>48512710
It's just been mentioned a lot in my group and sometimes there's entire threads about it on /tg. It really shouldn't bother me because it's not like my friends are rude about it. It's more a personal problem I guess.

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>>48512698

>He actually believes this
I'm not even a right-winger and I know that the alt-right is a reactionary movement aimed at countering neo-cons and progressives alike. The whole reason they latched onto Trump in the first place was because he said enough anti-establishment shit early on that he seemed legit.

>>48512304
/tg/ was also at its worst.

That's the problem, in that when you open the gates, everything floods in, and you seem to conveniently forget all the shit that people spammed incessantly-

> I miss bitches for Thulsa Doom.

...Or, you're that kind of scumbag who doesn't realize that there's more than one board. Miss Thulsa Doom? Just go to /s/. It's like a hundred Thulsa Doom threads, every day.

Basically, it's you who ruined it for the rest of us. We were able to discuss some diverse topics because there was a chance the discussion could be used for game inspiration, but then people like you took advantage of that to try and turn /tg/ into your "personal" board so you wouldn't have to go through the monstrous effort of going to other ones.

Every time I fondly remember old threads and wish that /tg/ was a little more open to off-topic discussion, I am reminded by people like you who are compelled to spam their personal views, tastes, and agendas at every available opportunity in hopes of it reaching some mythical point where people are forced to tolerate them.

The only views we should have to tolerate here are those about traditional games. You can love the worst game ever, and I won't fault you for it (unless you just use that game as a platform to spam some ulterior agenda). At the same time, you could love the best [television show/comic/video game/etc.] ever, but if you tried to start a general about it here rather than the board it belongs on, I'd say you should fuck off.

/tg/ is for traditional games. An occasional off-topic thread shouldn't be a problem, but it's people like you who want to just endlessly repeat them and to treat /tg/ as your "personal board" that ruined it for everyone.

>>48512768
Yes, people have mentioned that countless times.

The point still stands that Snake was right and that the Patriots were wrong in wanting to actively censor it, but it's a valid concern nonetheless.

>>48512773
Doesn't seem like a problem to me, man. If they're just mentioning, maybe it's just become something they expect from you.

I like tieflings and drow and think dragonborn and gnomes are trash.


>>48512368

This. I feel like it's a cheap way to get the thread controversial enough to make sensitive newfags spam the report button until the thread gets pruned.

>>48512301

That's because they can comment on it. The players know, when they see an elf, what it is and have at least an idea of how to interact with it, what it likes, how to insult it, how to praise it, etc. They might think your hermitcrabfolk merchants and their portable shell-stalls are actually really nifty, but they can't start from a position of commenting on them, they're reduced to an observer's viewpoint while you explain them until they're familiar enough to interact properly. I've done this a few times before.

>>48512795
>Just go to /s/. It's like a hundred Thulsa Doom threads, every day.

I just trawled through the archive looking for a single Thulsa Doom thread.

I found nothing.

You raised my hopes and dashed them to Hell.

Fuck you, Anon.

Fuck you very much.

>>48512809

Somewhat related to that, one of the things I miss was the genuine discourse that the pre-/his/ /his/ threads on /tg/ were able to produce. You went into them knowing you were going to disagree with someone, and that was part of the fun. /his/ is now oversaturated with those and it's unbearable, but the occasionality of it, that you'd be lucky to get one a week, made it something special back in the day. SJW and pre-/pol/tards were there, but it was before either one was a meme. Making them memes and making those memes mainstream a la Tumblr, Reddit, and all the other shit has basically neutered /tg/'s capabilities at discourse, and the mods, for right or wrong, have kept the hilarity of off-topic threads from stemming up again.

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I think a man should always play his gender. Neckbeards playing as ~girls~ is fucking unseemly and distracting and I don't want any of that shit. No you can't pull it off. I don't care how not-awful she's written, you're not writing a book here, you're roleplaying as them. It's always fetishy.

I also believe sex should be completely out of the equation for the players. All their PCs should be functionally asexual for the most part because whenever a player tries to bang a fictional person being narrated by the GM, it's just embarassing. It feels desperate and sad.

And this is coming from someone who draws porn ffs. Just keep it in your pants I want to play an adventure, you idiots.

also I think you should report & ignore posts you think are off topic or low quality, instead of replying to them. goddam

>>48512795

Who draws the line between occasional and none? The mods. They decided that if people are going to complain about some off topic, and picking which off topic to keep was too hard, so they removed it all.

The whole mess that started the downward spiral into the stagnant, uncreative mess that /tg/ is now started with that FUCKING FAGGOT KIMMO AND HIS FUCKING ANONTALK SPAM.
If it weren't for that summer where nobody could post between all the damn spam, we wouldn't have captcha, and we wouldn't have had the janitor crackdown. /tg/ didn't even have a janitor before that, and the one we got immediately deleted fucking everything, including drawthreads.

Every problem with 4chan can be traced to that one 6 month period.

>>48512412
>>48512421
>regardless of the player's gender or sexual orientation

It's a little more of a grey area, but I'll never forget having an actual lesbian stand up and try to flip my dining room table over screaming about how she was going to kill us all because the minor villainess her character had APPARENTLY secretly been in love with got killed. It turned out what we thought had been campaign notes she'd been writing nearly constantly in a school notebook of hers was actually a very long and detailed fanfiction about her character "rescuing" this (virtually asexual) vampire bard from her worship of Orcus and starting a life with her. I can't hear the words 'blood kisses' to this day without shuddering.

I'll take an actual IRL lesbian over an IRL bisexual girl going "tee hee I make out with the dryad...are the boys watching? I'm sooo sexy right now!" any day of the week, though.

>>48512830

As a fellow Thulsa Doomer, you'd be better off on /ac/ or /d/. /hc/ isn't even really going to give you what you want.

I miss our Lord and Master, Thulsa Doom, too.

Really it wasn't even the lewdity. It was just the general humor and inside joke of it. It was relevant because it was Conan. It undermined the second wave of mods who took away a lot of the off-topic threads, even the relevant ones, and undermining those sumbitches and that made the Thulsa Doom threads more magical.

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>>48508618
I will play weird or exotic characters 100% of the time if I am allowed to. In Iron Kingdoms I played somebody's pseudo-autonomous warjack. In DnD game our party was two humans, an elf, a orc, and my gnoll ranger. In Inquisitor I played a scrapcode machine-demon animating a suit of power armor.

I do this because I dislike myself, and I find it easy to roleplay and lose myself in characters because it's more comfy than playing someone or something that resembles me.

My group tells me I'm a good player. I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse.

>>48512841
Why is there a double standard for men playing girls being "cringey," but nobody will ever bat an eye at a girl cross playing a guy at the table?

>>48512454

Define third party, I'd assume it was some disgruntled /tg/ native using false flag tactics to get them removed because "muh pure hobby you kids aren't playing around a table making Monty Python jokes over beers like we did in my day."

>>48512841
That second one is just being silly. You don't need to linger on it, but a PC having a wife or someone they love is a great source of motivation and a bard's sexual exploits are oftentimes the source of a great laugh and even a plot hook or two

>>48512844

Pretty much this. /tg/ before the new mods stepped in was made of freedom and funtime. Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it had a soul.

I wholeheartedly believe that online gaming over text using IRC or similar chatroom system with a dicebot is better than using voicechat or face-to-face gaming, and that it does a better job of promoting real roleplaying.

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>>48512479
>t. newfag who thinks smug anime girls come from /v/

If the /v/ boogeyman scares you, you should go back to plebbit.

>>48512867
There's been threads about that before.
My take? Voice.

It's always easier, for both men and women, to lower their voices, but much harder to raise them in pitch (in fact, it's not uncommon in Japan for female voice actresses to take on the roles of young men). So, a woman can do a man's voice or just use her ordinary one without issue, while men often end up doing awful falsettos, sometimes even subconsciously.

>>48512900
we prefer /the board that must not be named/

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>>48512881
I'll second this. Memers, phone zombies, and other tg detritus don't have the patience for an IRC campaign, and in text promotes good roleplay and better immersion for all involved. It's a lot easier to take characters at face value, and even kills metagaming to some extent because you don't flippantly comment or strategize together.

>>48512518

That reminds me. I feel like one of the problems with neo-/tg/ is that we were too successful in eliminating shitposting. Flowers need manure to grow. People who can't handle old-/tg/'s level of banter are the ones who need to go and stay gone.

>>48512880
It's not entirely the mods' fault.
It was the worst members of /tg/ that drove them to that point.

That's the worst thing about /tg/, that as a community, we get dragged down by the worst of us.

The silver lining is that as a community, we're also uplifted by the best of us.

>>48512867
>>48512841
>>48512904

As a DM and a player I've never had someone had a problem with gender switching. The DM has to play every NPC, and that includes the opposite gender in a lot of cases, so what's the problem is the player picks one character and it just happens to be opposite from their gender?

Who actually gives a shit? It's something that's been discussed on /tg/ for years and I've never met someone in real life with a real problem with it. So I don't really get it.

>>48512518
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>48512935
The people who actually give a shit are the people who are hair triggered to respond to magical realm shit, and look for it under every rock and behind every tree in a campaign.

You know, autists.

This is also why it's popularly discussed on this board.

>>48512927

And that's true. There were plenty of absolutely fucking horrendous threads. And there's still a bunch of dickishly bad threads now. An oversaturation of awfulness brought us the second gen of mods, and it hurt us overall, but part of it felt inevitable.

>>48512554

That's autism talking. /qst/ serves as a filter. As things stand, there aren't too many quests on /tg/, but the ones that are still here are generally decent or well-established ones. It's an ideal situation.

Also, if I were to speculate, /tg/ doesn't have post IDs. That means that in an emergency the QM can occasionally cheat, go anonymous, and suggest a plan less likely to get the players killed than whatever they're contemplating. Not that I've ever done that, clearly, nope, never.

>>48512951
It's this kind of asinine assertion that makes people hate magical realmers.

It's like you can't recognize what is and isn't inappropriate, so you try and force this idea that people who call you out on your shit are puritans who are at the opposite end of the extreme that you sit on.

Rather, it's moderate people who are tired of you thinking you've cleverly disguised your fetishes while you're masturbating under the table.

In this regard, no. It's not about entirely about magical realm, so stop being an idiot.

>>48512594
That's nice dear.

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>>48512951
>>48513000
>I AM THE MODERATE YOU ARE SCUM
>NO I AM THE MODERATE YOU ARE SCUM
You people are both fucking hilarious.

>>48509837
Is there a video? I want to watch for reasons.

I like Katana's and hate pig orcs. If you're going to have a race of pigmen then HAVE A FUCKING RACE OF PIGMEN!!! Don't mix them with leaner, meaner and Oh so much greener mini ogres.

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>>48513000
>It's mostly people who are hypersensitive to magical realms
>durr you're a magical realmer

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>>48512698

As the guy you're responding to, I see other Anons have covered most of the main points, but they missed a couple that are worth mentioning. /v/ might give a shit about Sarkeesian, Quinn, and their flock of harpies...but as far as /pol/ is concerned, a coven of scam artists conned a bunch of social justice warriors out of their Starbucks paychecks and a bunch of people learned that the media is dishonest. It was absolutely a triumphant time, and while Gamergate was weak and ineffectual trolling away a fat seven million in advertising shekels from the REAL big game, Gawker Media, was a feather in our caps.

>Drumpf

Funny how John Oliver can make fun of a man for Anglicizing his name at Ellis Island, which shows just how much of an outsider to American culture he is (my ancestors had their names changed too), yet he never uttered a peep about his former boss wholesale changing his surname from (((Liebowitz))) to Stuart, isn't it?

As for being irrelevant, the left-versus-right paradigm has been irrevocably tainted with globalism-versus-nationalism. Just making that an issue when globalism was, previously, a fact of life is yet another triumph. Although Trump IS going to win, and justifiably so given how hilariously out of touch his only remaining opponent is, I know convincing you of that would be too much for right now. All I have to say is that after Brexit and making patriotic nationalism mainstream we won't be irrelevant again for a good, long time anywhere in the world.

>>48513055
I hate people who think orcs should be green.

I even prefer porcs over green orcs.

>>48513000

You know that /tg/ never used to be so obsessed with avoiding "magical realm" or fetishes in games until a year or so ago right?

Its become a meme. Some people are looking for any excuse to claim magical realm. Monster has a swallow whole attack? MAGICAL REALM VORE FAG GETOUT. BBEG hypnotizes a PC? MAGICAL REALM HYPNO FETISHIST GET OUT. These are actual examples from real threads that people have accused of magical realm.

I don't excuse the dude masturbating under the table. He's a fucking creep. But unless you want a game about uptight Victorian businessman sipping scotch and talking about "the negro problem" you're going to find some stuff that could be interpreted as a fetish. Especially since nearly everything is a fetish to someone.

At least you can usually ignore the dude masturbating under the table.

>>48512743

If you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?

>>48512479
/v/ is absolute garbage but it's not the source of smug anime girl or >t. Meme
At least take a dip in the cesspool before pretending to know it

>>48510469
>The people who flip their shit about scalies or furries or whatever when something with dog ears or scales shows up in a thread are a fucking cancer
Thousand times this

>>48513070
>make fun of a man for Anglicizing his name at Ellis Island
From what I've learned, Trump's family changed their name to make it sound less German and told people they were Swedish to sell property to Jews.

>>48513066
What's hard to understand?
A person decided that the only reason people might not like something is because they're obsessed about fetish shit. That sounds like something only someone obsessed with fetish shit would come up with.

Is there some sort of break in this logic, or are you just trying to perform some sort of damage control?

>>48513070

Who summoned this asshole? We were having an honest discussion and now it's /pol/-bait.

moot's legacy is giving them their board back. And the rest of us are paying for it.

>>48512736
He's not stopping you from making any thread. If your real discussion can't manage to get a new post every few hours, chances are, the board's audience doesn't find it interesting.

>>48513074
It just rhymed. Orcs can be any colour you want them to be. As long as they arn't pigmen.

>>48509213
Fuck off Virtual

>>48512736

Your lazy ass has plenty of room, you just waste it in generals instead of making quality threads.

Prove me wrong.

>>48512854
I really enjoy playin irregular races, too. It's a lot of fun, and a good break from human.
I still want to unironically use http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/3rd-party-races/silver-games/ponykind sometime

>>48512642
We're here for you, /5eg/ anon. We'll bear it together

>>48513098

...Does Trump really sound like a Swedish name to anyone?

>>48513138
If you only know that Swedish is a Germanic language, Trump sounds Germanic but not German (unlike Drumpf), then kinda-ish

>>48513118

Because I hate generals even more than I hate quests.
Quests are a cancer on /tg/
Generals are a cancer on 4chan as a whole and should have been expunged instead of coddled by giving them their own board. Their very nature destroys the entire point of the imageboard format. People who use generals should fuck off back to a regular forum where they clearly are more comfortable.

As this thread winds down into utter shit, I think one of the bigger issues, and it goes back to the inevitability of /tg/'s "golden age" coming to an end, is that we gave every interest its own thread. When I got here, I couldn't tell you how many boards there were. When I started paying attention to something beyond /b/ back in 2007ish, there were maybe 15-20 boards? Maybe? And now there's about double that, or more, I don't care to actually go look. I think it was the creation of /lit/ that really tore into the quality of 4chan. When something as board as books got its own board, it sucked out the "how do I make this relevant enough to discuss on X board that isn't /b/?" creativity that defined us as an entire board. 4chan was always been full of fucking radical and reactionary morons, but they were forced to live together or suffer for their idiocy.

>>48512795
>The only views we should have to tolerate

This is the only part of your post necessary to understand what a toxic, unlovable person you must be. The grudging condescension of a pathetic human being.

>>48513093
>You know that /tg/ never used to be so obsessed with avoiding "magical realm" or fetishes in games until a year or so ago right?

You mean people have been complaining about that stuff since day one. In fact, it was such a common complaint, that it actually was one of the reasons Nazimod came into being.

Basically, those guys ruined it for the rest of us, because they didn't know how to practice any degree of moderation.

I will give you a clue: If you have a general dedicated to fetishes, you're not practicing moderation.

>Some people are looking for any excuse to claim magical realm.

This is the meme. For every one person who may have once falsely accused someone of being a vorefag just because of a swallow whole attack, there's three guys with a vore fetish who are sitting at the edge of their seats waiting for the next dragon thread to start spamming about how much they want to be eaten. Or, at least, that used to be the case. Thankfully, this has gotten a bit better since the Fetish Generals got moved, since for a while no topic was safe on this board without two or three guys popping in to try to derail the thread into some awful fetish discussion.

It's a situation where the worst members of /tg/ ruin things for everyone else. I enjoy the occasional lewd discussion, but not at the expense of a conversation which is better off not being reduced to the quality of a 70's porno script.

>>48512833

It's actually really jarring to me, as someone who also visits /a/ and /m/ to go to those boards and see old 4chan culture and then come back to /tg/ and get forced into staying purely on topic with a janitor hovering around to ensure nobody says a rude word to anybody else.

I guarantee at least three posters in this thread alone will receive daybans for offtopic posting.

>>48513185
You sound like someone who wants to try and force an agenda.

It's rich hearing you call someone unlovable, when you are the most hated type of person.

>>48512841
>also I think you should report & ignore posts you think are off topic or low quality, instead of replying to them. goddam

You are the cancer, running to a parent-figure like a child rather than engaging and expressing your disapproval like a man.

>MOOOOM, THIS POST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY BOOOOARD! MAKE THE BAD MAN GO AWAY!

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>>48512880
>>48512844

I'm happy I got on here tonight, when some fellow oldfags are around.

>>48512962
>>48512927

What if we just solved this like fa/tg/uys, and every time we see a shitty thread we try to make it interesting? If it isn't, it will just die out on its own, right?

>>48512909

You can say tumblr, Anon.

>>48513213

I never used to browse /a/. I recently started just because they made me actually laugh out loud at my computer screen for the first time in what feels like years. I normally browse /v/, /tg/ and a bit of /co/ but /a/ really seems to have preserved at least some of the old magic.

I dare not post there, lest I taint the sacred ground.

>>48512845
>blood kisses

Do I want to know?

>>48513246

It's the old law. If it's not interesting or of value, it will die by its own hand.

Sometimes the old ways are best.

>>48512911

It also helps with >>48512904

>>48513265
It's a common name for action of turning mortals into vampires

>>48513246
>What if we just solved this like fa/tg/uys, and every time we see a shitty thread we try to make it interesting? If it isn't, it will just die out on its own, right?

That's an old fallacy that's no longer relevant in the age of 300+ post caps and the catalog.

Basically, trying to "derail" a shit thread only ends up padding up the post count, which only inflates the OP's ego. Worse still, you can derail a thread all the way to autosage, only for the OP to remake the same thread, either immediately or after a week, as in the case of that "D&D is shit" troll thread.

Report and ignore. That's the only thing that works, because we are legitimately at the mercy of the moderators, because nothing else can decisively kill a thread.

>>48513288

Well, derailing a thread works for /pol/ all the damn time. Why the hell wouldn't it work for oldfags?

>>48513102

If that hadn't happened they would run every single board, /pol/ is the largest board on the site these days now that /b/ has collapsed into teenage camwhore general.

>>48512951
I want to disagree, but thinking back on the few experiences I had with a player with a character of the opposing gender, I can't. Maybe it's just the people I play with.

>>48513306

They run every single board anyway, so why let them concentrate and congregate?

>>48513269
>It's the old law. If it's not interesting or of value, it will die by its own hand.

One person is all it takes to bump a thread for days. There's actually examples of threads lasting over a week relying on only two or three posters. There might even be one up right now.

Aside from that, troll threads almost always reach bump limit on /tg/ if they're not deleted first. That's how bad things have gotten, because we apparently are only as good as the worst of us. No matter how many of us know better, it only takes a few people to fall for bait for a thread to spiral out of control.

>>48513094
Fair enough on that. I've met too many closet skinheads with a hard on for their swastika marines who get mad because we "didn't get it" and claiming that we were stealing 40k.

>>48513288

>The catalog killed thread derailing
Another example of making this place more like other sites killing its magic.

In the old days you read the OP and a couple of the shown posts. Because sometimes the OP was boring, but what was actually going on in the thread was awesome. Not even always in a "haha the OP wanted to talk about WHORES but instead we talked about communist Russia for 200 posts" sometimes in a "the OPs idea or image was kind of boring, but some fa/tg/uy came along and was inspired by it and suddenly we're making an entire system because of a single piece of cool writefaggotry" kind of way

I really, really miss the old days.

>>48513152

See, I hear "Swedish" and I think "Jorgensdottr" or "Ragnarssen", not "Trump", which sounds Western European no matter how I look at it.

>>48513336
Also, if you remove the T it means butt

>>48509119
I think the idea that /tg/ is some bastion of intense intellect is actually just a self-perpetuating ego meme fueled via a collective agreement to suck each others dicks as long as you get your own cock gobbled. Not in 1-on-1 conversations, but just the general air of "oh boy isn't this a smart board with smart people" implying that the one posting such a thing is included in that group.

/tg/ keeps some massive compendium of opinions in a pdf file and I was so massively let down by pseudo-knowledge being thrown around that I could physically feel the Dunning-Kruger Effect seeping into my eyeballs.

Not that the people here are dumb by any measure, and the jaunts into other disciplines is cool and all, but people treat knowledge like tabletop homebrew where you can just make shit up and fudge numbers and as long as it kind of makes sense and sounds cool then you're golden. The logical consistency is nice, or the logic at all, but this board simply seems to have better creative faculties in the realm of lore and world-building and this looks like it translates into the real world but it's really more of play-acting at concrete discussion.

>>48513314

Man, you would have an aneurysm in the days of "elf slave wat do" threads. Invariably 200 posts.
You know how to solve that? Fucking ignore it. They even have a little x in the corner to minimise the thread now. I have to do that to every general, quest, and now skirmish which the filters didn't catch.

If autists want to argue for 300 posts about what "excuse me commissar" said that day, let them. Go talk about something more interesting.

>>48513350

/tg/ is great for discussion. Whether its intelligent or not is up for debate. It is /often/ more civil than other boards though, which I think is what that poster was trying to say. Of course it can also turn into full fledged shit flinging too

>>48513314

That's always been true though, expanding the threads to have a higher post count before it auto-sages keeps threads alive longer.

Back in the day, when things weren't concentrated to generals or to confined by faulty moderation, we'd run through threads like crazy, then start them up. When I did art threads, and others did them better, we'd have 5 straight threads of 300+ posts in a span of 12 hours. If you weren't paying attention, you'd miss something, and it inspired people to stay attached to their computers and watch or they'd miss something: a hilarious joke, or a good resource, or a cool link or file. Now you're guaranteed to miss the entire thread and be able to go back and read it, then post and maybe someone'll pick it up. But does anyone care?

>>48513334
That was it's own special magic, but you might be forgetting about how bad it also was.

You'd only go look through the first three pages, while the rest was this graveyard of dead threads. When it was at its worst, the first few pages were nothing but spam threads and troll threads, each being bumped by the minute to try and stay on the precious first page. Hell, the only reason the occasional awesome post appeared in shit threads was because there was often no none-shit threads that were being posted in.

The catalog is nice, even if we lose some of the old magic. But, what needs to be stressed is the importance of the opening post now, and if people really want to derail a thread, there's thousands of decent threads that get made each week that see less than 10 replies, while every troll thread maxes out if it's not deleted first.

>>48513328

Speaking as a /pol/ack those people are fags and I hope you gave them a hard time for it. 40k's nationalism is less about race (aside from the human race) and more about a singular religion and culture. It's less Mussolini or Hitler and more Henry Ford, an oddly American brand and the only multiculturalism that seems to work. America functions because you can take a little black boy, a little white boy, and a little hispanic boy from the same neighborhood, and chances are they play the same sports and watch the same cartoons, eat the same food, and cheer for the same heroes. Yes, certain pernicious interests benefit from trying to fracture that on both sides, but those interests are artificial and I fundamentally believe they are doomed to failure in the long run. Similarly in 40k, a Tallarn Emperor-botherer, a Cadian, and a Krieger might have a lot of differences but they're united by a common faith and set of beliefs. Ironically, it draws on the ORIGINAL idea of the fasces as it was in ancient Rome, a bundle of disparate sticks that are weak on their own bound together into a strong whole. That covers one reason why they're retarded. The other is that 40k is so ridiculously over-the-top that anyone who can't see it is literally missing the giant cathedral on top of the 10km battleship.

>>48513383

Are you sure you're a /pol/tard?

>>48513097

To be fair, the kind of person who plays kobolds is nearly always raw sewage in human skin.

>>48513115
>concreteoptim
Dust Wars - /tg/ edition incoming?

>>48513175

That still isn't proving me wrong. I asked for proof, not a spergy rant on generals.

>>48512434
Because it has nothing to do with traditional games. Just go to /d/ to have a wank, nigga

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>>48513219
>that weak argumentum ad popularum and massive projection from a one-line post versus an easy inference from your paragraphs-long rant

The hallmark of someone with no spine and no balls. The views you'll tolerate are the ones put forth by your fellow posters, otherwise you're welcome to pack your shit and leave. From the sound of your gaming style, you won't be missed.

>>48513381

I feel like you're exaggerating. Even at the worst of the anontalk spam I could find something interesting to read here. Sometimes I tracked backwards from page 10 just to see what I had missed in the last few hours.

I still don't use the catalog because I don't come here to browse OPs like a normal forum. I come here to browse an imageboard. I just have to use infinite scroll now because so much is filtered.

>>48513426

>Erotic Roleplaying
>Roleplaying
>Traditional Games

I'm not even that guy and I'm upset.

>>48513435
Therapy often includes roleplay but we don't have psychologist generals.

>>48513287

No, she was actually feeding the vampire her menstrual blood in her fanfiction so she wouldn't have to prey on people, with the logic that a once-a-month feeding would be sufficient because her character was a Druid "endowed with the vital energy of the earth" and therefore her chunky moonblood was extra-potent or some shit.

>>48513404
Finally someone got the reference

>>48513375
I agree. /tg/ is probably the best place to just talk about lots of different things without the constantly-caustic nature of /lit/, though I haven't been on /his/ a ton so maybe that's okay.

Once upon a time, /pol/ was actually an amazing discussion board filled with insane libertarians, communists, nazis, and anarchists, all arguing at each other about the merits of certain economic systems and the like.

>>48513257

I think we could at least stand to import a few of their memes. Assuming I'm here tomorrow, I'll probably introduce some "This is your Paladin tonight" type threads, see if we can get Anons smiling again. A little laughter is never a bad thing, and I believe in /tg/. I believe we're mature enough to handle being silly.

>>48513383
I'm not convinced you are a /pol/-tard in the general sense. The most important part of being a /pol/-tard as I've always seen the term used is to not actually have level-headed discussion, or discussion period. Or to view nationalism as separate from racial supremacy.

>>48513229

This. Shit like that is what's making the board stagnate. Deal with your problems yourself or leave the thread, calling the cops at the earliest opportunity is just...kind of pathetic and weak. It's beneath the dignity of someone who posts on 4chan, bizarre as it is to put those words in a sentence together.

>>48513458

Not even that guy, but you know the old saying "act like a bunch of screaming nazis for fun and you'll attract some literal nazis" or something like that.
Peel back the thick layer of irony that all 4chan users tend to have and you'll usually find a kind of functional human being, mostly.

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>>48513446
Why did she let you guys read the fanfics? Did she leave her notebook behind when she freaked out or something and you guys flipped through it?

Also I'm gonna go kill myself now; that's one of the sickest things I've heard in years.

>>48513440

And yet mods don't go out of their way to ban freeform threads, which is what ERPs are. Hell, sometimes they even have stats.

It's not even like the E part of it is on the threads themselves, they're just being linked to places where they're allowed. They followed the rules. The mods were just pissy and dumb as hell.

>>48508618
I actually like dragonborn, and read D and D books mainly for the fluff.

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>>48513288

Bullshit. A "D&D is shit" thread can easily become an "interesting but lesser-known systems for fantasy roleplaying" thread. It might trigger YOU, seeing a 300-post thread with that title, because you're viewing it in the catalog, but what's actually going on in the thread might be pure magic. And if the board is moving so slowly that a thread receiving only a few bumps per hour is at the top of the page, then it's no loss to have it around even if it's awful, because nothing better is going on.

>Report and ignore. That's the only thing that works, because we are legitimately at the mercy of the moderators, because nothing else can decisively kill a thread.

A weak and womanish solution, fit only for redditors and cowards. A true fa/tg/uy faces every thread with lance in hand. If you can't fix it yourself, it deserves to stay. Either it'll get squeezed out by better threads, or there's so little traffic that it's not forcing out anything good, particularly since not being on page 1 isn't as bad as it used to be since we got the catalog.

>>48510196
This speaks to me

>>48513312

Because otherwise they would settle en masse someplace like here, and turn it into /pol/, and do the same to a few related boards, and create a widespread /pol/ish community that would represent the site's culture as a whole. You don't know how bad things could get, and while nobody ever admits being anything but an oldfag I can tell you don't really remember what happened the last time the /pol/-equivalent was destroyed.

>>48512455
Have you tried this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_-P_BS6KY&list=PLwNbO81FrHcWKdQdgUkkjbNkoDyToi0Nz&index=14

>>48513524

And yet they didn't before /pol/'s various incarnations were born. Each time, it would get worse, but it kept getting made because of that logic: they kept trying to contain it to one board. And each time, it only made the problem worse.

As an oldfag from year one of 4chan, the birth of /pol/'s forefathers only made the radical idiocy of /pol/ worse each time. I liked it better when it was everywhere and only a minor disturbance as opposed to attempting to segregate it to one board and the dark cloud of /pol/ looming over every other board because they're there. /b/ raids on individual boards like /x/ were never this bad.

>>48513524

I remember less complaining about /new/ when it was a board, and the brief period it was deleted, combined, than the current whinging about /pol/.

Also /pol/ already represents the site's culture. Its the third highest traffic board after /b/ and /v/. During big events I've heard it tops /v/.

>>48513257
> I recently started just because they made me actually laugh out loud at my computer screen for the first time in what feels like years.

This is what kills me about modern /tg/.
We've lost the art of humor.

The best example is lewd jokes. We don't have them anymore. They don't work.
They don't work because there are people who "identify" as lewd, and when they see a lewd joke, they don't recognize it as one, and they feel compelled to try to expand it into a serious discussion, which inevitably ends up being a cringe-inducing off-topic shitfest. Same thing with political humor. Religious. Really anything at this point.

It also doesn't help that the few people who try these sort of jokes just aren't all that funny. We have more people who think that repeating memes is a form of humor than people with genuine wit, and you will see the same ten non-jokes repeated any time a topic is brought up. There is a distinct staleness when it comes to most /tg/ humor, and it comes from the awful mixture of caring too much about trying to make a statement while ignoring the community around you.

I miss the days when people could make a joke and people would recognize it as one, playing off of it, instead of dragging their agendas around with them. I genuinely miss good lewd jokes, like the question of how many spiders a drow could fit in their vagina, without having to deal with people doing their best to figure out how to masturbate to that idea. In the past, there was no question that the thread was made for the sake of humor, but now, we have to contend with the uncomfortable truth that regardless of how ridiculous something might be, there are going to be people who will try to strip any humor from it by taking it seriously.

Not in the "Can we actually do the math right?" manner of serious that's done for comedic effect, but "I legitimately plan on using this in my next game, don't you dare shame me" serious that's just embarrassing to witness.

>>48512169
It helps that they have more than just the weekend to discuss the universe.
Granted, we usually go over that limit, but there's always a time break that they never have to put up with.

I don't like D20 as a system, but I'd still play DnD if I had anyone to play with.

Never played a generic fantasy campaign, and I kinda wanna try it.

>>48508618
Ever since the smut threads were nuked, the rise in thinly veiled smut threads (one sentence greentext about succubus etc) has vastly deteriorated this board's quality.

Also, I really like the Magical Gril CYOA, but I'll never admit it.

>>48513572

This. Always and forever, this.

I honestly believe that 90% of the people who post on /tg/ are underage and shouldn't be allowed to post here. Back when I used to post here regularly (10 years ago) I think adults made up a much higher proportion of users outside of /b/ and /v/.

>>48513508
>Bullshit.

Uh huh. Do tell.

>A "D&D is shit" thread can easily become an "interesting but lesser-known systems for fantasy roleplaying" thread.

But instead it's just 300 posts of trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. Go ahead and look through the last several.

Even if in your magical pixie land some people did try to bring up some "lesser-known systems", it would get swallowed up by the bitchfest that those trolls threads end up becoming, because regardless of what's going on in the thread, the first exposure new people have to the discussion is the OP post, and the smart people avoid it, while idiots like you and trolls dive into it.

>>48513392

/pol/ culture has changed several times. The vernacular and memes remain the same, but things like getting the flags had a huge impact. Nobody talks about JIDF anymore, for instance, because on the whole we can now see from the flags that Israeli posters are polite and articulate individuals with the same worries about radical Islam that most of the board partakes in. There's a lot of international banter, and it's acknowledged that Germany is a perpetual troublemaker and that Hitler fucked things up for everyone by going full ovenmode. The overall sentiment of the board is pro-nationalist, but since fighting globalism is actually viable now it's become a lot more serious and grown-up and less racially charged than it used to be. Don't get me wrong, there are always threads about hating feral urban niggers, but those come from a place of frustration at the division in our societies deliberately created to advance an agenda by pandering liberal politicians and globalists like George Soros.

>>48513458

Why? If I want to prove how awesome white people are I can point to literally any art museum in the world. What's there to be insecure about? There's no such thing as a standard user of any board, anyway, a lot of the current /pol/acks voted for Obama at some point, and many of them originally joined /pol/ just to troll racists and ended up staying because they learned something interesting about how money, information, and influence function. As an American my culture is inherently summarized by E Pluribus Unum, it would be a betrayal of American principles to reject other Americans when I'm a mongrel myself. How could anyone tout the superiority of German and Scandinavian genes to the exclusion of other concerns seriously when looking at the modern Germany or Sweden? Stopping white people from being deliberately bred out or having their cultures replaced is a noble goal, but that isn't the same as wanting to eliminate everyone else.

>>48513484

She left everything behind that wasn't in her backpack. Her notebook, her character sheet, even her dice. She never called or made any attempt to get them back.

Everything feels sterilised and off. Like this isn't /tg/ it's actually
just wearing it's skin and it's telling me "honestly things haven't changed". Everything seems so... formula now. Perhaps maybe that's me getting older and more used to this. I just miss that magic we had with just that touch of chaos that made things interesting. Maybe that's nostalgia goggles. I dunno any more. It's just all generals and things to me now.

>>48508618
I believe board culture makes any kind of meaningful discussion impossible, and I know for a fact that some of you asstards take board culture with you into real life.

>>48513572
>Not in the "Can we actually do the math right?" manner of serious that's done for comedic effect, but "I legitimately plan on using this in my next game, don't you dare shame me" serious that's just embarrassing to witness.
So where does Dr. Assmarbles fall on that spectrum, because whether or not it was bullshit, and it most likely was, that one still cracks me up to this day.

>>48513397
My best friend used to play a Kobold in 3.5 because he wanted to play an itty bitty evil lizardman.

>>48512368
/pol/fag detected.

>>48513440
I honestly think we should.

>>48513627

4chan as a whole has become more sterilized and lost a lot of the chaos and magic it had.

We can point to a hundred things that might have influenced that. But I think at the end of the day its simply that this place is aging. A lot of the guys with tons of energy ready to make something unique and cool that might be seen for all of an hour before disappearing forever have grown up and got jobs that leaves less time for fucking around on the internet. People have less time to wait around for something interesting to happen or for someone to make a simple OP asking for advice on a particular topic so now they need the catalog and a general to get to exactly what they want.

We also cursed ourselves. We brought a great many people here interested in our "memes" (I'm talking lolcat era here). People without the wit or the tolerance to lurk for 6 months just so they wouldn't stand out. The overall creativity of the site dropped as more people came in. People's who's idea of making something funny was posting something over and over until it caught on, instead of posting something interesting that caught on because it had merit.

The magic died because we grew up and weren't replaced by a younger generation that wanted what we did.

>>48513601

Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls is the natural state of any board on 4chan. Better to have it confined to a Designated Shitting Thread than spread across the main thoroughfares. Again, what is the problem? Either the mods ban every single thread, or you grow up a little and learn to have a little fun or avoid it. This is something none of the other boards have a problem with.

>>48513440
It's called "Confession threads" desu

>>48513689
It's also one of those signs where people make the mistake of thinking /pol/ is all extreme right wing. /pol/ is for the entire political spectrum, and you'll find plenty of extreme leftists there as well, and often just as loud.

Basically, most people who say "/pol/ go away" are really just saying "I'm not really familiar with this site."

>>48513689
newfag confirmed.

nigger.

>>48513696
I was thinking the same. I can personally say that studying psychology really helped me flesh out characters and develop my characterization skills. A psychology general, albeit weekly or even monthly, could be a great resource. I think it being daily would be an /awful/ idea though.

>>48513563

During big events it even tops /b/. There was less complaining back then because it was business as usual everywhere on the site. What's changed isn't the people who engage in it, but the volume and thin-skinnedness of the people who complain about it. You can blame redditors or tumblrites if you like, but personally I believe that we're to blame too. We've lost some of our chutzpah.

>>48513572

This.

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We butchered our sacred cows in pursuit of the next plateau of enlightened contrarianism, and now nothing is left but empty routines and spite.
It's four (4) AM here and tears are streaming down my face but that's mostly because I choked on my drink, and I've lost control of my life.
If you tried to do something like Drew the Lich or Rubyquest nowadays it would torn down and defiled, and it's only a matter of time before the next idol gets shattered by popular opinion.

I was going to write out a larger post but it's late and this is good enough.

>>48513703
>Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls is the natural state of any board on 4chan

No. That's for /b/.
Are you really that unfamiliar with this site and how it works? Is this your first time stepping outside of /b/?

Here's a few rules to get you familiar with what's expected of you, and of the "natural" state of any board other than /b/.

>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

>6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

So, in short, take your "shitposting is my right" cringey mantra back to /b/ and leave it there.

>>48513696

I'd be down for that. It could be some great character inspiration.

>>48513701
All summed up beautifully in that last sentence. I really think the lack or lurking is the problem.

Some of these fags don't even know about the cockmongler, or even where an hero comes from but will use it off hand any chance they get.

>tears fall into abyss

>>48513701
So this is what getting old is like, huh?

I hate it.

>>48513689

See, this is the thing I don't get.

This guy was clearly fucking kidding.

The shit we did back in the day.

And yet we let trolling get to us.

You fuckers, WE INVENTED TROLLING. And somehow you can't stand it anymore?

I know part of 4chan has changed, and I've mentioned several different thoughts on it. But shit, let's not pretend like we haven't changed with it.

>>48513710
This.

Newfag hubox reddit shipjumpers think /pol/ is all just Nat Soc General and "gas kykes race war now". Go spend some time there, it's not all that and a lot of it is extremely funny black (dark, not nigger) humor. You'll also be exposed to news from all over the world that you wouldn't find anywhere else.

t. multiple board frequenter for years

>>48513720

Yeah, I think even some of the oldfags desired a more ordered system sometimes, if only so they could talk about a game without a random derailment possible at any moment because somebody decided today was the day to spam cartoon scat porn.

I guess there will always be people who desire more order. But I come here for the chaos and was originally attracted by it. I live an ordered life, so the chaos here is a nice change. The fact its starting to die down disappoints me.

>>48513689
>>48513748

samefag

>>48513733
>Take your 4chan culture to a specific board

No. This right here is the cancer, and the reason why so many fa/tg/uys are saying in this very thread that /tg/ has become more sterile and formulaic. One of the reasons why old /tg/ was great was because it was 4chan funneled into traditional games with all of the mad creativity that implied.

As someone said earlier, flowers need mud to grow. If you can't handle shitposts, you can't handle 4chan itself, and you're just a Syrian refugee moving to a land you see as better while refusing to integrate.

>thinking that 4chan culture has ever been defined by the rules

Newfag 100% confirmed. The rules exist to prevent extreme violations, not to prevent board-relevant posts that you don't like. Trolling, for example, is verboten by the rules, yet you won't find a single board or a single thread anywhere on the site that doesn't have trolls present.

>>48513767

Also multiple board frequenter for years, I don't go to /pol/ for a lot of reasons, but the /pol/ that manifests on other boards is always insane alt right fuckers. I don't think I've ever seen a fucking insane left winger derail a thread when someone says "/pol/ pls go." Hell, I haven't seen someone defend feminism in like a year on the site, across every board I've visited. /co/, /v/, /vg/, /vp/, /x/, /tg/, /tv/. I mean, shit.

>>48513733

Autism, the post. Do you seriously think there is, or ever will be, an actual attempt to crack down on memes anywhere?

>>48513779

Look at you, making my point for me.

Now I'm mad about it and throwing a temper tantrum. Autism Supreme reigneth here.

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>>48513811

Well, I'd forgotten the gross parts of the old school.

I accept your gift.

>>48513811
Shine on, you crazy diamond.

>>48513733
Yeah, about that. Enforcement of global rules 3 and 6, along with several others is largely arbitrary.

>>48513767

Look at it this way. /pol/ would be supporting Ted Cruz instead of Donald Trump if it was what it's expected to be. Instead they're memeing about and loudly cheering on the man who got the RNC to applaud defending gays and told Republican moderators he wouldn't let people die in the streets because they didn't have healthcare in his America. There wouldn't be genuine outrage over Hillary Clinton cheating Bernie Sanders, or admiration for Ben Carson calling out Alinskyite tactics, on a board that legitimately followed Hitler's ideals.

>>48513824
Have you forgot?

The ride never ends.

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>>48510160
I will fight you

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>>48513828

Lets see how long this takes

>>48513838

We're here forever.

>>48513733

How exactly would having a thread criticizing D&D stop you from having a thread about enjoying D&D? Do you have no confidence in your ability to make and participate in a good thread?

>>48513811

Takes me back to the good old times.

>>48513786
No, you utter, utter idiot. /tg/ was not improved by /b/ culture. The early part of /tg/'s history was filled with us having to deal with /b/ raids, spam, shitposters, and trolls, and while the /b/ raids have declined, we still have to contend with idiots like you.

You are not what made /tg/ great. Your type was the worst part of /tg/, the part that eventually ruined it for everyone else.

Are you honestly implying that shitposting made things great, that shitposting isn't the most sterile and formulaic thing on this site? That /b/ culture ever had a place outside of /b/? Want to see what happens when people do nothing but troll and shitpost all day? Go ahead and look in /b/, and tell me just how unsterile the same 100 threads made indefinitely really are.

4chan is at it's best when we looking out for each other, joking, being creative, having fun not at each others' expense but for each other's pleasure. What made /tg/ good in the past was that we actually treated each other like a community, even the shitposters like you because at least you weren't as bad as the /b/-tards.

And now, here you are, advocating that being /b/-tarded is a good thing.
Fuck off.

>>48513811
Whelp, all that effort to forget this existed, wasted.

>>48513811

What do you think his Dexterity score is? Does he have a feat to use weapons with his anus for hypothetical triple-wielding?

>>48513863

He doesn't want to make a thread about enjoying DnD because there are already 3 generals up for DnD! What a time to be alive.

>>48513701
>The magic died because we grew up and weren't replaced by a younger generation that wanted what we did.

It doesn't help how hostile towards outsiders this site always was, a problem that's only gotten worse as time has gone on, and the entrenched poster base has gotten more extreme and conservative. Half the chaos and creativity of the early days came from the idea that 4Chan was a site where "anything goes". But all the interesting, creative voices got chased away years ago, and the site has been stagnating ever since.

>>48513846

What made Kreia such a well-crafted villain?

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>>48513858

>>48513871

I think there's a middle ground for you two. We didn't have to regulate the rules, because we regulated ourselves. We had raids occasionally, but more often than not, we counter-raided pretty successfully. By adding a mod that enforced the rules, we lost a lot of our spirit, slowly trained out by years and years of even more mods being added who either came from outside of /tg/ or who wanted to implement their specific vision of it.

We weren't improved by /b/ culture, but we didn't suffer that much under it, either. We had vitriol from "Here's the situation, how do I improve it?" and suddenly everyone's going balls to the wall on how to improve it with insane ideas that people just run with. Because it wasn't regulated by an outside force, it was regulated from within.

>>48513863
Nice trolling. I'll give you a 2/10 because I am replying.

But really, if you're trying to pretend that it's not bad trolling, how am I suppose to respond with anything other than "Oh, you're THAT kind of troll. No thanks."

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>>48513879
I imagine its a high Dex score, coupled with moderate Strength, for shooting glass shrapnel out of his ass

>>48513871

Nigger /tg/ was formed from Warhammer Wednesday on /b/ pissing moot off enough that he gave them their own board.

You can't separate /tg/ from the chaos that is 4chan. You can't separate any board from 4chan from that chaos. Thats the whole point. If you wanted a sterile, moderated, discussion forum the express purpose of discussing traditional games there are other venues for that.
If you wanted to see what crazy shit the fa/tg/uys are cooking up this week, inspired by a poorly drawn giantess comic that made it look like people were living on her, then you came here.

>having fun not at each others' expense but for each other's pleasure.
HAAAAA. Seriously listen to yourself faggot. 4chan has been openly hostile to other posters since its inception just to keep the riffraff out. And here this hippy not only thinks he's home but he's rewrote his own memories to think that everyone is like him.

Want to know the saddest part?

We're all still posting here because it almost feels like old /tg/. And that's only true because we're projecting, because there's someone else who can vindicate what we feel.

And no matter how we might say "I'm going to fight to get back old /tg/," nothing will change what /tg/ is.

>>48513887
The fact that she was only a villain out of necessity.

>>48509983
Are you saying retroclones aren't better than actual D&D?

>>48508618
I think quest threads and the people in it are the lamest people on 4chan, and that's something.

I fucking hate hearthstone

>>48513919
Anon please. I was happy for a moment.

>>48513871
>/b/ culture

There you go talking about things that aren't real again. Revisionist history is the crime of every authoritarian regime and philosophy. On-topic shitposting is the reason why boards like /a/ are doing so well while /tg/ is stagnating, it excites passion and spurs discussion more than just "hey guys I have a problem" "well gee Anon why don't you just talk it out with your group?" "okay sure good idea."

Only a sith deals in absolutes, your argument is the most cliched breed of strawman, claiming that either things are 100% on-topic and related to the actual running and playing of traditional games, or else the board is a cesspool of nothing but shitposting like /b/.

>having fun not at each others' expense but for each other's pleasure

See, this is how I know you're a newfag pretending very, very hard that he's been here for more than a few years. The one accurate thing you've said was that back when /tg/ was good shitposters were part of the community, because they were our shitposters, not /b/'s, not /pol/'s, but /tg/'s shitposters, the shitposters of 4chan that existed in the medium of traditional games. You're so close to finally being a fa/tg/uy but your autism just keeps getting in the way.

>>48513932

I thought about it and had to share. I wanted to share in my sorrow.

Now I do.

>>48512594
>they are submissive and subversive
I'm pretty sure these two words are contradictoty.

>>48513948
I feel like I'm in hell. /tg/ was one of the few places my passions could run. But they can't in a place like this. I don't want this. I want just one more spin, anything better than the last go round. Just one more dice roll for the old times... one more I can't have because it'll always be one more forever after.

>>48513917

He'd need good Con to avoid being hurt by the broken glass as well, so overall he would have good stats to be the party tank.

>>48513919

This. I have a quest to run tonight and I fully expect we're all going to be banned and the thread deleted for going against the modern neo-/tg/ narrative of separate subreddits. Humor goes here. Satire goes there. Fantasy dicegames go on this board, fantasy literature goes on this other board filled with pretentious cocksuckers fa/tg/uys don't empathize with, fantasy lewding goes on this third board filled with woman-hating manchildren and camwhores, general fantasy talk goes nowhere because it has elements of more than one. There's a 99.9% chance nothing will change and things will get worse, and people will be afraid to say anything because they want to be able to ask questions in the /5eg/ today, but there's that small hope that the mods will remember that they too were once fa/tg/uys or Gookmoot will find his merciless samurai heart softened. I side with hope.

>>48513932
Enjoy this brief moment in the sun.

Enjoy it before it's ripped away from us and we have to return to the drudgery that preceded this.

>>48513908
> because we regulated ourselves.

Except we didn't.
The better part of the community suffered because of the worse part, but we existed together because there was no alternative. There was really nothing that shitposting contributed to the board.

>we counter-raided pretty successfully.

Pissing in an ocean of piss. Don't you remember? /b/ could never be raided.

> By adding a mod that enforced the rules,
You mean, by shitting up this board so much, that we needed a mod to step in just to prevent us from drowning in shit.

You might not remember, but before Nazimod, /tg/ nearly died. That's largely the fault of bot-spammers, but trolls and ordinary spammers were likewise flooding this board to the point where it was nearly impossible to have a discussion. As much as I hate Nazimod (I was personally banned somewhere around thirty times by him), I hate the people who drove this board to the point of needing someone to clean it up.

If we want to regulate ourselves, the simple rules we need to follow are emblazoned on a sticky with two kittens. Don't shitpost, don't troll. Or, in other words,

1. BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER.
2. PARTY ON, DUDES. (AND DUDETTES)

>>48513880

So he has a guaranteed thread up to talk about D&D the way he wants, and if he wants something else he can easily make it. Which begs the question, where exactly is the problem here? That you have to see this other thread? That's not a healthy objection, it's flat-out OCD.

>>48513980
I can't knowing what wehave to go back to. I don't want to go back to that, Anon. I only want to go back to the good times.

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>>48513978
I will be your Boston Massacre.

Remember these times, lads. I'll be watching from above.

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>>48513994
The times are what you make them.

>>48513954

Tell that to my ex-girlfriend.

>>48513881
There was also the fact that, as 4Chan's userbase grew up, a lot of the cynical, rebellious teenagers started to develop actual empathy, and a desire for more sincere, friendly discussion. I remember there being a wave of positivity and sincerity a few years back, culminating in the My Little Pony fiasco and the departure of many, many posters.

Yeah, there was a lot of gross porn at the time, and a long, long period of dumb spam, but I still recall at the root of it was this desire for something soft and nice and fun. And most of the people who were interested in that, quickly realised that 4Chan wasn't the place for such things, and left for greener pastures.

Now all that's left are bitter, depressed, small-minded cynics, too stuck in their ways to migrate anywhere else, or trust the quality of any other community. Reddit and Tumblr are both more lively and creative than 4Chan nowadays, but all chantards see in those two names is meme spam and SJWs, and ignore the huge variety of discussion, opinion and quality that both sites host.

>>48513918
>Nigger /tg/ was formed from Warhammer Wednesday on /b/ pissing moot off enough that he gave them their own board.

This is an old lie with no evidence behind it.
Do you have a letter from moot? Something saying that he even noticed your threads in the designated shitting board?

I'm sure he was just rushing to make a /40k/ board, especially considering how much bigger 40k was than shemales and furries, and you know how there's a /trap/ board and a /fur/ board, right? Oh, wait, furries and shemales have always been bigger than 40k in /b/, but moot didn't make containment boards back when he made /tg/.

/tg/ was made in part because of the D&D threads in /v/ and in part because of the couple of 40k threads there as well. That's why it's /tg/, because they're traditional rather than video games, and it's ultimately a daughter board. moot honestly never seemed to care about what went on in /b/, because /b/ was the garbage dump board.

So please, stop with your cringey theatrics, and enough with your false history built on unsupported conjecture. Unless, you actually have something to support your claim?

>>48513982

A counter-raid didn't involve going back to the original board and raiding it, it involved raiding the raided threads and shouting over the raiders. As a proud veteran /co/, /tg/, and /x/ counter-raider, kindly fuck off. I remember more than once we managed to convert a few /b/tards to stick around and learn about 40k or D&D, just because we were some goofy fuckers.

And see, I was fine when that was added. The draconian mods that came in, as I've called them the "second gen" of mods, were done away with. And we got a new set that were a step in-between the original completely hands-off mods and the utter shit mods that replaced them. I don't remember there ever being enough reporting to give reason as to why we got new mods, it seemed to come out of nowhere and that was why so many of us reacted so negatively to the new mods.

We regulated ourselves through how we ran threads, how we treated each other, and how we raided the threads that we, as a collective, disliked.

I guess I don't remember what you're talking about but I've been on /tg/ since 2008. Maybe you mean before that?

>>48513982

The first janitor wasn't installed because of shitposting. He was installed because moderation was increased across the whole site after the anontalk spam summer, coinciding with the addition of captcha. Moderation was not put in place because of a sin we must atone for, but as a defense against the foreign hordes. Captcha itself was enough, but the janitor was already here and moot wouldn't go back on his promise to crack down.

>ordinary spammers were likewise flooding this board to the point where it was nearly impossible to have a discussion
Ordinary spammers didn't have captcha to contend with. They also find it easier to act when they get free bumps from ANON TALK spamming.

You're remembering a 6 month period of the worst of the worst as if it were the entire history of /tg/.

>>48514022
What would 40k be doing on /v/? Is there a tvshow I have been hitherto unaware of?

Also, stop being a faggot.

>>48514034

Yeah, see, this is what I remember. /co/ got new mods but they were cool. /v/ got new mods and it got raunchy for a while how much they rebelled. /tg/ got new mods and it was a new board for a few years.

>>48514022
>cringey theatrics
Are you aware just how much of a huge faglord you are?

>>48514037

Did you misread /v/ and assume it was /tv/?

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>>48513980

It is the mission of each true knigh/tg/uy, his duty, nay...his privilege, to dream the impossible dream. To fight the unbeatable foe. To bear with unbearable sorrow. To run where the brave dare not go. To right the unrightable wrong.

Always remember the greatest roleplayer of all, the true spiritual founder of this board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzqbEeVWhs

>>48513336
Well, you shouldn't think Jorgensdottr or Ragnarssen. You should think more like Nilsson, Andersson, Svensson, Gustavsson

While the higher rungs of society have names like Rosberg, Derén, Lagerbäck, Stenfält, Strindin

>>48513942
There's no such thing as a good shitposter.

All you're trying to do is justify your shitposting, by somehow claiming that you stop /tg/ from being stagnant, when it is precisely because of shitposters like you that it became stagnant.

You don't contribute anything. No good ideas, no exciting threads, just the same repeat shitposts and troll threads, and somehow you think you can lay claim to the best parts of old /tg/, the parts that have nothing to do with you.

The story threads? The collaborative works? The awesome threads where people took creative ideas and ran with them? What did the shitposters contribute to them?

Hell, the reason we don't have those much anymore is because of people like you, who are so fucking deluded you think you have some duty to shitpost, like shitposting is part of our culture rather than what's always been destroying it and very nearly has.

Stop shitposting. There's no excuse for it, regardless of how much you want to pretend it does anything except drive people away, make discussions insufferable, and kill any sense of a community.

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>>48514050
Yes.

Want a blowjob?

>>48514064

No, it's because everyone is forced to deal with shitposters and aren't allowed to combat them in creative ways. Now that everything is confined to a general, as long as the shitposter is "relevant" to the thread they can stay and won't be drowned out. Back in the day we fought the shitposters by removing the taboo of the shitposter and turning the joke on them.

Take the dude with the jar up his ass we just got. People were responding to it by asking ridiculous yet perfectly /tg/ questions. That's trying too hard, but it's the spirit of old /tg/. We dealt with irrelevant, stupid shit by making it relevant. That's the nature of our hobby, right? A good DM is good at improv. It's the "yes, and" mentality. And that applies to shitposting.

>>48514076

Only because you posted Ares.

>>48513797
>I don't think I've ever seen a fucking insane left winger derail a thread when someone says "/pol/ pls go."
You should go to /his/ my man. That place is basically leftypol.

>>48514064
Dude. Theres nothing wrong with shitposting. You're a purist fool if you don't admit that it's fun to do every once in a while. You can still be a part of all those awesome things like story threads and the such, but still find time every once in a while to shitpost.

Shitposters are like the court jester. They make people laugh. And when they start pissing off people like you, they make everyone laugh even harder.

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>>48513811
Thank you Sir.

>>48514094

Whaaaat? I stopped going to /his/ because of the crazy right-wing side of it. Maybe I just went there on a bad week.

>>48514019

Fuck that. There is no pasture greener than this. No other website, even in our dilapidated state, that so adamantly refuses to censor free speech. Creativity on reddit or tumblr is drawfaggotry and hollow attempts at wit that can be summarized in a few pithy lines of virtue signalling or a quotable quip, for the sake of applause and meaningless points. Even if the field is fallow, 4chan's soil is more fertile than any other, because it's free. It would be better if it was more free, but there are no shadowbans here, no brigade of purple-haired hamplanets contacting your employer because you said cunt in a post. I'll not take offense at being called a cynic, but with God and George Washington as my witnesses I would rather be free than surrounded by softness and niceness. I would rather have honest discourse with all of its harsh edges than positive pablum. We will be here forever, and I am okay with this. 4chan is love, 4chan is life, 4chan is home.

The people who left were also newfags who wanted to be part of le ebin 4chan and that brave Robin Hood Anonymous they believed in.


>>48514022

I was there back then, it's part of the site's history.

>muh /v/

Now THIS is newfaggotry!

>>48514105
>Chaotic Neutral: The post

>>48514034

This. A lot of so-called oldfags were young enough then to have forgotten the state of /tg/ before Anontalk Spammer.

>>48514064

I don't know what /tg/ you were browsing, but it doesn't sound like the same one I was.

The /tg/ I browsed made cool fucking settings out of giantess porn. Or derailed Flare threads into geology discussion.
Hell, I don't even know what site you think you were browsing, because I always remember delighting in the various ways that people would think up to piss each other off and argue only to end up having an interesting conversation later on.I don't ever remember thinking "gee this site sure has a tight knit and healthy community of contributors" I just remember thinking "why the hell does this thread have 100 replies when its just a one image no text OP... oh hey they're talking about bottomless pits"

Shitposting today can derivative. "Excuse me commissar" is no better than "elf slave wat do" but there are plenty of ways that shit disturbers have stirred the collective creativity of a few dozen anons to make something fun for an hour or two.

Creativity is often bound in chaos. We have no chaos here, and creativity clearly suffers, as many anons in this thread have expressed.

>>48514105
How do I give you reddit gold for that post?

>>48514026
>A counter-raid didn't involve going back to the original board and raiding it, it involved raiding the raided threads and shouting over the raiders. As a proud veteran /co/, /tg/, and /x/ counter-raider, kindly fuck off.

You mean, you added to the post count, inflated the trolls ego, and encouraged them to do it again.

You've got childish delusions that there's such a thing as "counter-trolling". It's just more trolling, except you do it while sitting on a high horse. I was once stupid enough to think the same thing back when I did it, back when you could sage bomb a thread into oblivion in five minutes because there was no time delay between posts and the post limit was something like a hundred, but in the end it just encouraged them to do it all over again out of spite.

And, tell me, how is /co/ and /x/ doing right now? Peachy, right?

>We regulated ourselves through how we ran threads, how we treated each other, and how we raided the threads that we, as a collective, disliked.

I thought we did. But really, it was just small gangs of shitposters attacking anything they disliked, up until everything was being attacked. No one could speak for /tg/ or get /tg/ to agree, so it just ended up turning into a shitfest. Even though some of us recognized this problem, it wasn't until the mods intervened that something could be salvaged.

>>48514022
>cringey theatrics

Where do you think you are?

>/trap/

/d/

>/fur/

It did exist, akshooally. It was one of Moot's finest pranks, he made a furry board and then banned everyone who posted in it.

>>48514105

I feel like the birth of Anonymous really did the site no favors. Sure, it was an embodiment of the sentiments of the site and the age, and the contrarian nature of the late Bush era, but since then it's become a monster. Everyone wants to be an edgy Anonymous faglord now, all in the name of the same shit Anonymous did. By trying to spread out our mentality, we effectively infected the rest of the Internet with our mentality and now it's morphed into... I don't even know what it is anymore.

4chan didn't use to be anyone's personal army. Now I can think of a lot of people who can effectively wield 4chan as a weapon, Milo whatshisface being one of them.

>>48514118
>proof that this can still be /tg/ related

As far as I'm concerned. All of this IS /tg/ related because we're all /tg/, so anything we talk about will have that flavor to it.

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>>48514099
Bro. I can't believe it hasn't been removed yet.

>>48514127

/co/'s pretty good, but /x/ is pretty similar to /tg/ right now. All generals and no fun.

Pretty sure the consensus here is that you're not just in the wrong, you're fucking projecting and inventing your own history of 4chan that simply wasn't. Or are we all simply projecting the /tg/ we wanted instead of the /tg/ that actually was?

>>48514062

So the higher rungs of Swedish society are (or rather were, pre-cuckening) run by dwarves?

This explains so much about the vikings.

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>>48514064

Other Anons have already covered why you're wrong, so I'll just repeat what I said earlier. The fact that you are a newfag is 100% confirmed.