MTG LEGACY GENERAL

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>>48493959
So I've been playing DDFT on MTGO all day, and out of about a dozen matches between 2-mans and the Tournament Practice room, I only played against Reanimator, UGX Delver variants, and Miracles. The only one I felt favored against was Miracles. What the fuck is with that?

>>48494034
MTGO has a very stagnant metagame.

Also, because Miracles is a good matchup for Storm and fast combo/aggro is a bad one for DDFT.

I play assorted green unfair decks (primarily Elves, but some Enchantress and a lot of Turbo Depths lately) alongside TES and DDFT. My main deck is completely shit on by Miracles and you don't see me crying about a ban. No matchups in Legacy are really that bad; if both players are on a real deck, it never really gets worse than 60-40 or so game one. People who complain about Miracles are looking at things from the perspective of Modern where things are banned for "diversity" or to "shake things up". Legacy SHOULD be stagnant, that's the point of an Eternal format. Miracles is a very good deck, and that should hopefully never change. Same with all the rest of the decks.

Format is really fun right now, I would like to see some unbans. There are some cards that would not see a lot of play but might boost some fringe decks (Twist, Recruiter, Earthcraft, Frantic). Survival also really doesn't need to be banned, all it would do is make Maverick T1 again with all the DRS running around.

>>48494637
A lot of good points in there, but there are definitely machups that are worse than 60-40. Shardless vs Burn, Eldrazi vs Painter, Delver vs Lands for example.

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Trying to brew Quad Laser Bridges Stompy. Can anyone help recommend any other ways of winning from behind a bridge?
4 Blood Moon
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Chrome Mox
4 Simian Spirit Guide
12 Mountain
4 Magma Jet
4 Koth of the Hammer
4 Chandra, Pyromaster
4 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Trinisphere
4 City of Traitors
2 Fiery Confluence
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 Trinisphere
SB: 3 Phyrexian Revoker
SB: 2 Boil
SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 4 Goblin Rabblemaster

>>48493959
Still trying to play TES. Fiends proxied Miracles. Thought I could learn on Cockatrice, I don't, I still suck at this fucking game.

So much time spent, so little reward, not only do I feel bad about sucking at the game, I now believe I suck at intelligence too, because to me everyone who should be intelligent would be good at MTG.


Fuuuuuuuck.

DnT reporting in.
New Thalia was really strong against elves and rug.

>>48493959
I used to hate Miracles, then Exquisite Firecraft came out and I stopped caring.
Now my only bad matches are Crucible decks.
I play Burn.

Anyone tested some of the new cards from the latest set?
>>48495815
New thalia seems terrifying.

>>48495815
After a long kick of Delver variants, I just started playing DnT. It has to be the most elegant O'brien deck I've ever played. I love it.

>>48494234
mtgo is missing tabernacle right?

>>48495308
Just play Painter instead of trying to be a snowflake who misuses Dredge build names.

>>48498947
A playset of Ports is $1000 online. Way less Goblins, DnT and Lands.

>>48498991
Oh right, the one true build of Blood Moon Stompy has already been discovered. I forgot.

>>48494234
I did beat a some of the reanimator and delver guys so it wasn't a total wash. I just found the amount of reanimator alarming. I played againsy more reanimator than delver variants. It's not played nearly that often in paper.

>>48499211
Was it BR reanimator? Thats one of the budget decks. I honestly don't think testing online should be treated the same as testing for paper. If you look at online results, you would think you'd be bumping into Miracles every 5 minutes.

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Question,

This garbage ever seen play? Even in fringe decks?

I have a friend who swears it was/is O.P. Not much of a magic buff, so I don't know, but doesn't seem that great to me.

>>48499328
No it was normal reanimator with a smattering of tin fins. I agree with you about online testing. If this keeps up i'll probaby change my online board.

>>48499360
no it doesn't

>>48495754
You're just not getting enough quality practice anon. Piloting a storm deck isn't exactly intuitive, even to intelligent people. Read articles, watch videos, and practice practice practice.

>>48499360
In the context of legacy, no. In the context of any other format, __________________no_____________________

>>48496149
She's almost a straight upgrade from Mirran Crusader. Just as good on defense, almost as good on attack, legendary for the karakas interaction, still human for the cavern, not to mention that you get a tax effect


.

Legacy is dead! DEAD!

>>48499360
It's only useful in commander, and even in commander it's only useful in a specific 5 colour deck that involves tutoring it out cheap while you have Scion of the Ur-Dragon, or Progenitus.

>>48500830
Its banned in EDH. Its just one of many useless cards.

>>48495815

How does the new Thalia interact with Shock Lands? Can you still pay the 2 life?

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>>48500773
Damn right, fucking reserved list. Piece of shit.

Don't even like modern.

>>48501602
Even if you do, the land will come into play tapped.

>>48495754
Storm decks in legacy require plenty of practice, preferably with someone else who understands the deck. There are too many decisions to make without some experience-based heuristics.

>>48501602
In an interaction like that, whatever "changes" the games normal ruling (nonbasics come in tapped) takes priority.

Four color Delver reporting in (Grixis, with the green splash for Decay and Deathrite)
One of the guys in my irl playgroup plays Miracles, but honestly it isn't that bad for me.
The real trouble in my playgroup is Merfolk, actually. Fuck Islandwalk. And True Name.

>>48504705
Have you tried this crazy new card called "pyroblast"

>>48504820
But how is pyroblast going to hit True Name Nemesis? Besides, he's already running Decay, I don't think he should main pyroblast.

I'm new to the Legacy format and I'm opposed of buying cards that are on the Reserve List. And I don't want to play burn.
How is Tezzerator doing? pls show me the light. Legacy is a scary format ;_;

>>48504995
You counter the thing, retard.

>>48505064
Tezz has won some events recently. In a lot of ways whats good in Legacy is a self fulfilling prophecy. Decks that see more play put up more results. Decks that put up results see more play.

A guy near me has been doing really well with Tezz. It isn't a cheap deck, but if you play it well and build it correctly you can pretty easily take down a room full of Delver and Miracles.

>>48493959
i hate miracles cause it straight up killed countertop decks.

>>48505064
Check out Joe Losset's tezzeret list from the legacy mediocre league.

>>48505826
>>48505064
Heres the list that I like. Its all about metagame decisions, I like 4 Bridge right now

1 [R] Badlands
1 [EX] City of Traitors
1 [OD] Darkwater Catacombs
1 [UNH] Swamp
1 [M15] Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 [R] Volcanic Island
2 [WWK] Creeping Tar Pit
2 [UNH] Island
2 [R] Underground Sea
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
4 [KTK] Polluted Delta
4 [TE] Wasteland
4 [C13] Baleful Strix
2 [CNS] Dack Fayden
4 [MBS] Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 [10E] Crucible of Worlds
1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
1 [FUT] Sword of the Meek
1 [C13] Thopter Foundry
1 [C14] Trading Post
1 [DS] Trinisphere
2 [CMD] Dimir Signet
2 [MR] Talisman of Dominance
4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
4 [8E] Ensnaring Bridge
4 [SH] Mox Diamond
2 [C13] Toxic Deluge
2 [AQ] Transmute Artifact
SB: 1 [NPH] Batterskull
SB: 1 [U] Forcefield
SB: 1 [AL] Helm of Obedience
SB: 2 [NPH] Spellskite
SB: 1 [DGM] Notion Thief
SB: 4 [M11] Leyline of the Void
SB: 2 [DTK] Kolaghan's Command
SB: 2 [M11] Pyroclasm
SB: 1 [LG] The Abyss

>>48505064
Tezzerator is decent.
Other decks that don't need to run RL cards:
>D&T
>Manaless Dredge
>Affinity (Aggro Robots)
>Eldrazi
>8Rack
>Merfolk

>>48505936
That Forcefield is a pretty spice meatball, my friend. needs more chainz tho

>>48506100
Eldrazi needs Cities, 8rack needs to remove all of the bad cards and swap in smallpox, rit, and chains. D&T is great though, Merfolk is pretty fun, and Affinity is pretty fun + good at being worse Elves.

>>48505782
isn't miracle the CounterTop of our era?

Tfw you type up a post on your phone, solve the capcha, and 4chin eats the post and you have to retype.
>>48505826
>Maindeck Staff of Nin
>Maindeck Misdirection
I swear, competitive legacy deckbuilders must have some proprietary drug they shoot up before coming up with this shit

>>48505936
Have you tested a singleton Academy Ruins?

>>48505782
>>48506836
You mean Miracles isn't Countertop by another name?

>>48505936
Thanks!
Isn't Darkwater Catacombs a strictly worse Sunken Ruins, though?

>>48506836
>>48507115
Countertop used to include a bunch of different midrange decks like Bant Countertop with Knights

>>48507260
What it does is let you make UB without needing another colored land. You don't have any double colored spells so Sunken Ruins is a little less good.

>>48506743
I like the one of academy. There is a lot of competition for land slots, so it's a matter of how important you think it is.

If you had to ban one card from Miracles, which one would it be?

>>48508159
Brainstorm

>>48508191
>deck has Terminus, Counterbalance, Sensei's Divining Top
>bans the inoffensive card draw instead
I'll never understand Brainstorm haters.

>>48508551
>brainstorm is inoffensive
>terminus is overpowered

Wut?

Without brainstorm, terminus is a shitty card.

>>48497280

What's an O'brien deck?

>>48508936
http://www.usc.edu/dept/Deckmasters/archive/mtg/som5.4

The old schools of magic, things have changed but the basics still apply

If you could guarantee one card in your opening hand when playing your favorite deck(s), what would it be?

>DnT: Thalia or Revoker, depending on the meta
>Miracles: Top

>>48509074
DnT: Aether Vial
Shardless: DrS
Painter: Top
Delver: Brainstorm

>>48500282

Crusader is better against against the BG base decks (BUG in particular) and holds equipment better, but Heretic is better against the rest of the field, miracles in particular.

>>48509074
Mox Diamond with aggro loam

>>48509074

Thought Knot Seer in both Eldrazi lists?

>>48509172

What are DnT players cutting for her, just the random threes like flikerwisp and crusader?

>>48509172
Why is she good against a deck with 6 basics and 2 creatures?

>>48509276
Flickerwisp is pretty key, crusader is probably the cut. There are 3-4 flex slots in the deck.

>>48509334
I'm assuming its bc they run lots of fetches to make top better, but I don't play with or against either deck much

>>48509334

Legendary is more relevant (Karakas) than the stronger offense, and it still messes with the other 20 lands.

>>48509495
Still, messing with third land drop seems slow. If you're looking for a 3 power 3 drop, Brimaz just seems better. I don't really think anyone would be considering her if she wasn't named "Thalia"

>>48509074
Gotta be Doomsday. You can guess which deck.

>>48509581
>Still, messing with third land drop seems slow.
In a deck other than DnT, maybe. But with all the other stax effects it becomes back-breaking.

>>48510147
It's powerful early, but if they have 2 turns to develop mana its not going to be backbreaking. It seems pretty slow without a vial and a port in play. Furthermore, it isn't a question of it being a bad card. It's just worse than your other options.

>>48509074
Exhume.

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>>48509074
I mean, it tutors like half the cards in the deck.

Playing Imperial Taxes. Vialing in a Magus is great. "I'd like to respond to that" they say. "You would have liked to respond to that" I reply.

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Here you go guys, your very own "rev for 15" guy.

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>>48509056
>Vintage

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>>48514038
Type 1 you mean

>>48509056
>things have changed
I'll say
>2. No reliance on combinations. You want to build in the possibility of a combination (as you do with Rasputin Dreamweaver + BIG Fireball, or Mana Drain into a Jade Statue or something like that)

>>48514175
Yeah, nowadays you just Rasputin into Sphinxes Rev. Much more efficient.

>>48508055
ok, thanks for the advice! I'll practice Tezzerator decks in legacy and modern. If I like it, I'll buy the modern version, eventually building my way into legacy!

>>48514611
here's my Modern list, it's pretty fun, but still working on it so it's prone to change http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-07-16-ub-tezzerator/

>>48515354
Thanks, I appreciate seeing different takes on the deck. We're technically in Modern territory, so I posted a question in there in order not to derail the Legacy thread:
>>48515525

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>>48513649
>that deck

>>48513649
We dont need this meme here.

Does the Painter's Servant deck see much play? Is it any good?

>>48517718
It's a good deck and it would be Tier 1 if it was more accessible I think. As it stands, it doesn't see too much play because you need four Imperial Recruiter, which are rare, expensive, and don't really go into anything else except Aluren and D&T.

This assumes you're talking about the R/w version, which is what people mean 99% of the time when talking about Painter. The U/R version is not really played very much and tuned lists probably don't exist online, so it's a lot riskier.

>>48517718
>>48518094
It suffers from a lack of pilots, but the people who play it love it. It gets decent penetration for how few people are playing it, and would probably be a lot more prevalent if someone could figure out how to beat miracles consistently.

>>48514611
The legacy version is tough, but very rewarding. You need to play the control role and try to reduce the number of outs they have, so it does require format knowledge to play optimally. Don't be surprised if you open with a losing streak.

What do people think of sideboarding Path in DnT?

>>48505826
What does Staff of Nin maindeck even do? The fastest you can play it is prob turn 3 off sol land signet opener. I guess it kills mom, thalia, pyromancers, and unflipped delvers.

>>48493959
What's the top 5 non RL Legacy playables you want to see in Conspiracy 2 or Commander 2015?
>Careful Study
>Disenchant
>Diabolic Edict
>Nether Shadow
>Engineered Plague

All this shit is hard as fuck to get NM nowadays, not OP for casual products but too stronk for muh standard babbies-

>>48522705
And kills almost everything in elves except deathrite

>>48522705
Its a personal howling mine that can win through a bridge.

>>48522755
Imperial Recruiter
Rishadan Port
Flusterstorm
Goblin Settler
Grim Tutor

>>48522755
>Ancient Tomb (with 200% less spooky art)
>Ancient Tomb (without anus mana)
>Chalice of the Void
>Doomsday
>Dark Ritual done by Terese

>>48522814
Fair enough, but so does having Bridges maindeck

>>48522830
Dealing 15-20 damage over 15-20 turns. Jesus, at that point Idol might be better.

>>48522943
Its more a draw engine. To be fair, i hate that build of Tezz, and don't like any of Joes legacy builds

>>48522755
>Faeries in Engineered Plague art, done by Rebecca Guay
I would be so hard

Just beat Doomsday twice in a row as DnT. I had enough time to land lock pieces every game, some through Therapy. Most games I was able to protect myself from sweeper by applying enough manabase pressure that he couldn't Burning Wish or by simply not playing out any real Plains. I never feared getting killed before I could land something.

>>48524241
ok

>>48524241
And I've bear DnT as DDFT through onboard thalia, canonist, and spirit of the labyrinth. Not saying it's a good matchup for the doomsday player, but it's not so bad. Experience on both sides makes a lot of difference.

>>48509074
exploration in rug lands

>>48509074
Of the decks I played
>Storm: Brainstorm actually, probably the best way to start and find gas
>All Spells: Balustrade Spy
Of the decks I play
>Dredge: Looting or Breakthrough, depends on the rest of the hand

>>48522194
good against eldrazi

>>48513649
What in the name of Urza

>>48513649
>15 targets
why
although the though of a dedicated turn 1 reanimation deck using something like an inquisition core could be funny

Does anyone else have that one deck they just hate playing against? For me it's Shardless. Losing to BumblingRetard.dek feels bad

>>48532467
dnt. It's always scrawny weirdos playing it and it's boring af

>>48532467
For me it's burn. They always have the fireblast or the Eidolon.

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>>48505064
start out with this friend
my lend out deck and yes thats the correct sideboard

>>48508805

I think that's the point though, the format benefits from versatile powerful cards like brainstorm whereas terminus only has one usable context and it is very overpowered in that context

>>48535798
>terminus only has one usable context and it is very overpowered in that context
Couldn't one use the same logic for other cards?

>>48535979
Not him, but are those other cards as oppressive as Terminus?

>>48536057
Perhaps I'm a bit ignorant of its oppressive nature as I don't run creatures.

>>48536057
How is it oppressive? I understand the 1 mana wrath argument, but is it really that much more powerful than any other wrath effect.

>>48535689
Terrible sideboard. You need to register The entire crew of the Weatherlight, or all the hilarious Legends creatures at least.

We can all agree that Vintage is better right?

>>48536620
Maybe a year or two ago, but honestly Vintage is in a pretty bad place right now. I've always enjoyed the deck diversity and consistency of Legacy, and right now Vintage is so stale that I'm willing to say I definitely prefer Legacy.

>>48536686
>Gush
>Eldrazi
>Workshops
>Workshops Eldrazi
>Prison Eldrazi
>Powerless Eldrazi
>Noble Fish
>Dead Guy Ale
>The Perfect Storm
>Dredge
>Doomsday
>like ten Oath decks
>Landstill
>Painter
>Stoneblade
Doesn't seem stale to me.

>>48535689
Due to low picture quality, it is difficult to recognize the cards for one who is not already familiar with them. A list would do me more good.

>>48536816
But in reality that boils down to workshop flavors, gush flavors, and oath flavors. Everything else is fringe. I used to love vintage but moved back to legacy because it got stale.

>>48493959
>Pay to win general
why?

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>>48538034

>>48538034
pay 2 play the best format

>>48513649
>Dread Return
>2 Putrid Imps
What? How? Or maybe why? Fuck man, all 3, I need answers. I don't play Legacy, but I'm pretty sure hardcasting Dread Return is not where you want to be.

>>48535689
I'm not a legacy player, so I'm not sure I understand some of the card choices. I assume the chancellors are to protect the turn 1 win, but what do the Bridge from Belows and the Underworld Cerberus do for you?

>>48539124
Bridge from below lets you sac narcomoebas to therapy to make tokens so you can discard combo pieces stuck in hand and still have creatures to flash back dread return because all your combo peices need to be in the grave. Underworld cerberus is the kill condition.

How does new Thalia and Show and tell? Do she make the opponent creature entre tapped?

>>48539812
>Do she make the opponent creature entre tapped?

yes

>>48539812
Not that that's even an interesting interaction because Show and Tell almost never has a haste granter.

>>48539812
If Thalia and the opponent's creature enter the battlefield at the same time, then Thalia does nothing to the creature. Thalia needs to be on the battlefield before the other creature to have an effect.

>>48532467
Lands

I hate Life from the Loam so much

>>48532467
probably Jund, it just feels like such a bad matchup no matter what I do
>>48541621
Lands is a close second simply for how frustrating it it to try to deal with their engines just for them to loam them back and such.

>>48540940
Sneak Attack?

Tangentially related to legacy, but this has been pissing me off for weeks.

Some site runs a regular article where they make a deck based off of shitty cards voted on by readers then plays it on MTGO. Does anyone know what it's called?

Ok so I've been playing Canadian Threshold for about two weeks and holy fuck I'm in love with this deck, but I'm worried I don't have effective ways to deal with Grixis Delver or Lands.

>>48544941
Mtggoldfish?

>>48544998

That's it; "Against the Odds". Thanks mate, I don't play this game but I like reading about it.

>>48544958
Stifle is surprisingly good against Lands, running something like Winter Orb might be good.

Against Grixis Delver you can probably get ahead by pressuring the manabase and running Rough//Tumble.

>>48545147
>Stifle is surprisingly good against Lands
Really? It seems somewhat worse than Unsummon in the matchup.

>>48545245
It protects you from wasteland, and is the only way to really buy yourself the time to attack with a goyf or goose enough.

>>48536558
>but is it really that much more powerful than any other wrath effect.
yes. yes it is.

>>48545417
Tell me, how good is a hand with 2 Terminus and no Brainstorm?

So here's a question. If your deck has trouble with Miracles, why not just stick a pair of Jester's Caps in your sideboard. CounterTop'ing a 4-drop is not that easy for them to do, and a resolved Cap activation I believe wins the game every time.

>>48545565
Being able to shore up your biggest weakness with such an incredibly potent Wrath that just plays along with your deck's general plan is really strong. Sure occasionally you might get buttfucked and draw Terminus, but the deck has literally all of the library manipulation in the world, you can either activate or shuffle them away quite easily. The upside is worth the occasional awkward draw.

>>48545623
Again, its a wrath that requires setup and can rarely be cast from your hand. Its possible to make it bad with Chalice, to make it unstable by turning off top.

This is Legacy. The cards are all powerful. Terminus isn't that far above the curve.

I've been playing Jund Stoneblade at my LGS's Legacy events for the past few weeks and have gone 2-0-1, 2-2, and 3-1. The only matchups that have been given me trouble is UR Delver.

>>48545728

>chalice stops terminus

only if they dont have a top

but yeah chalice is one of the most powerful cards ever printed, i would say more powerful than terminus

>>48545728
No one is saying Terminus is above the curve of Legacy cards. They're saying it's above the curve of Wraths, when in a shell that enables it. Which is absolutely true.

In any case whoever started this discussion by saying the reasonable hit to Miracles was a ban on Terminus is stupid, because Legacy doesn't need a ban, and because banning Terminus just means they are weaker to the same hate they are already weak to. It really doesn't change much except make Enchantment removal even more important.

>>48532467
Derp and Tell decks. I can't imagine how boring a long tournament playing such a braindead deck would be

>>48537972
>>48536816
Not to mention how much jank is playable in vintage.
5c human won something.
I've won with dimir cutpurse.
Mayor of avabruck has seen play
Not to mention other genuinely good decks like grixis gifts, red and taxes etc

>>48548201
Let's not forget Tribal Eldrazi. Power 9? Nah, fuck that shit, here's 4 Null Rods though!

There's a ton of fringe decks and strategies that are viable in Vintage. As long as they aren't Control. Gush has killed the Control.

>>48545728
Miracle is an alternative casting cost. A spell cast for it's miracle cost retains it's CMC as printed on top of the card.

>>48549536
>>48545728

I'm sorry, I realized now that you wanted to make Terminus bad by countering Brainstorm and Top. I'm new to this format.

>>48545580
I think 4 drop with 2 mana activation isn't very good for legacy

>>48493959
>Tell me why you hate miracles

cause its boring

>>48535689
>not running Belcher sb
Cheap laughs beat winning, huh?

>>48513649
holy shit that brings me back, reminds me a lot of my very first kitchen table deck

yes my very first deck was dredge reanimator

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>>48536620
Legacy is my preferred power level. I am a-ok with the power nine etc. being absent. I like unrestricted cantrips too.

>>48550928
my friends when we were new had no idea how broken cards like demonic tutor were (granted i didnt either but i knew they were good)

so one of my decks that i crushed them with forever was a deck with 4 reanimate, 4 reanimate dead, 4 ritual, 4 demonic tutor, 4 vampiric etc. and 4 phyrexian obliterator with some random removal cards in there

it always won

>>48545580
Miracles usually packs 2 main win cons, but Jacev and Snapcaster and win conditions.

>>48550102
To be fair, Belcher is just better. I'm not sure why you want to play a t1 combo deck that loses to Surgical

>>48522755
Berserk it's fucking 90 dollars

>>48493959
1 mana instant Wrath of God can go fuck itself

>>48546030
>jund stoneblade
At this point it's 4c stoneblade, no?

>>48555575
At this moment I'm 90% sure there will be an EMA 2 and it'll have Berserk, Rishadan Port and Imperial Seal (plus Force and Waste) as the selling point.

>>48532467
Chalice decks, 40 minutes of not being able to play while the idiot in front fails to find his wincon all because of Chalice on 1 turn 1 and Chalice on 2 turn two.

>>48557773
t. miracle players

>>48536620
I'm not sure if if I've ever played a close game of vintage, and I've played at least 50 or so games in general.
>>48536558
>but is it really that much more powerful than any other wrath effect.
Having played elves, death and taxes, and zombardment against miracles, yes, it infinitely more powerful than any other wrath, It's even is good enough to largely invalidate going for goblins in TES.

I think Miracles can do way too much. Wrath effects? Check. Lock pieces? Check. Library manipulation? Check. Aggressive creatures? Check. It's highly adaptable. The deck has answers to almost anything it faces.
Still, I'd rather have strong answers against Miracles be printed than have Miracles cards banned, because I don't like it when WotC kills an entire deck, and I also think that having a hard control deck is important for the format.
But I really wouldn't complain if Terminus or Counterbalance got banned though.

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I think miracles is fine.

Rate my 12-Post Treefolk brew:
Treefolk Harbinger x 4
Tilling Treefolk x 2
Sakura-Tribe Elder x 4
Magus of the Candelabra x 3
Hex Parasite x 1
Colossus of Akros x 1
Expedition Map x 3
Nevinyrral’s Disk x 2
Lignify x 2
Crop Rotation x 4
Hurricane x 2
Reap and Sow x 3
Rootgrapple x 3

Lands
Cloudpost x 4
Glimmerpost x 4
Vesuva x 2
Glacial Chasm x 1
Dark Depths x 1
Ice Floe x 1
Thespian’s Stage x 1
Forest x 12

Sideboard
Mistcutter Hydra x 2
Quagnoth x 1
Krosan Grip x 3
Bojuka Bog x 1
Creeping Corrosion x 1
Primeval Light x 3
Witchbane Orb x 2
Insist x 2

>>48550102
>lend out deck
it's not what I play just if a friend wants to play a game of legacy for the first time it's a cheap deck they can play

>>48522755
>Imperial Recruiter
>Berserk
>Rishadan Port
>Imperial Seal/Grim Tutor
>More Imperial Recruiters

Maybe chalice too since modern play is pushing the price up , buyout any day now probably

>>48544894
I dont even recognise some of those cards, whats next to the trinket mage and next to that and next to the crypts in the board

>>48560444
Serendib Efreet & Chill.

>>48560444
Serendib Efreet and Chill

I pulled a Karakas. Should I hold on to it for future use or try to trade it for another Force of Will?

>>48560519
>>48560530
What's next to the efreets?
also thanks

>>48560930
Sea Drake

>>48560892
What do you want to build

>>48560960
Dreadstill. I have 2/4 FoW, but I'm unlikely to pull another Karakas and would hate to have to buy another down the road. Looking to build a (relatively) cheap Legacy deck that could later turn into a more competitive one if I wanted to get more involved.

>>48560990
Trading for a forc makes sense, what's the point of holding onto it and not using it when you could turn it into an equally useful card.

>tfw had to sell ANT to get through college
>tfw only left with dredge and belcher left to play
>tfw dredge is still viable and probably better than some of the other higher tier combo decks because of its flexibility and doesnt fold to hate like some decks
>all the people in my area play really weird decks

>>48561037
When you put it like that it does seem silly to hold on to a sideboard card (that's also banned in EDH) over a staple.

>>48561088
>Dredge doesn't fold to hate
... I mean... if you compare it to Belcher, sure. But it's still one of the more fragile decks. If people want to make you not be able to do shit, you will most certainly not be able to do anything resembling shit.

>>48495754
Storm is very very hard to play anon, it's one of the most complex decks ever built

Cut yourself some slack and just get more practice in

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>Live in Canberra Australia
>For the first time in 2 years a store hosts a legacy event
>Borrow my friends junk nic fit deck
>Go 4/1, lose to belcher in the top 8
>Everyone has a great time
>Never any talk of hosting another event

I Just wanna play go formats bros, the most I can hope for is to drive for 9 hours to a GP and play a legacy side event

>>48561423
Good formats*

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>>48561423
I know how you feel man.

>>48561745
>his legacy events are within his galactic cluster
lucky ass

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>>48561745
This is too true.

>>48561745
>one LGS runs wednesday legacy
>one LGS runs tuesday and FNM legacy

suck it

tfw you work at store #2 and only get wednesday evenings off sometimes

>>48499360
lol no

>>48538034
just print out the cards and sleeve them, how hard is that?

What's the hard counter to Miracles, assuming players are of equal skill level?

>>48562783
12post or eldrazi stompy

>>48562826
thanks, ill check it out

>>48562783
12 post, Nic Fit, Goblin Stompy, Angel Stompy. Basically most Chalice decks or deck that go big.

>>48557226
>At this point it's 4c stoneblade, no?

Sort of. Most 4c Stoneblade lists I've seen are mostly UW, and are splashing for stuff like decay, thoughtseize, and deathrite. Whereas my deck is more of just a Jund deck that has stoneforge as the only non-Jund coloured cards.