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Almost Good Enough Edition.

Post your Legacy brews that are almost good enough and talk about The Best Format (tm)

Here's my almost good enough brew: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/veternal-explorer-doomsday/
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>>48450173
ignoring manabase for budget the rest of the deck works good agaisnt other creature decks
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>>48451044
This looks really sweet. I like the dread return. Entombing for that would make me hard.
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>>48451606
when its end of turn trust me it's a great feeling
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>>48450173
culling the weak with veteran explorer is nasty
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Should I sell Grixis Delver and buy into Painter?
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>>48453931
No?
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>>48454040
I wish I sold my Goyfs and bought Recruiters when I had the chance
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>>48453931
No but do get Belcher.
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>>48454587
Why would I buy into an autopilot deck?
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>>48454682
To first get rid of the misconception that it's an autopilot deck. After that, for haxing short, exciting rounds for the rest of your play career so you can savor the salt while taking a piss before there's a line and celebrating with your personal flask while scouting the meta.
>>48454828
Cute.
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>>48454587
>>48454587
This is my Belcher

3 [AVR] Cavern of Souls
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
4 [EX] City of Traitors
10 [UNH] Mountain
1 [ST] Goblin Settler
1 [CHK] Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 [SHM] Murderous Redcap
1 [PLC] Stingscourger
1 [WWK] Tuktuk Scrapper
2 [M10] Siege-Gang Commander
4 [M15] Goblin Rabblemaster
4 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
4 [NE] Moggcatcher
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
3 [MR] Chrome Mox
3 [DS] Trinisphere
4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
4 [9E] Blood Moon
SB: 2 [C14] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [TSP] Sudden Shock
SB: 1 [AL] Pyrokinesis
SB: 2 [SOM] Koth of the Hammer
SB: 3 [8E] Ensnaring Bridge
SB: 2 [8E] Boil
SB: 1 [C13] Goblin Sharpshooter
SB: 1 [PLC] Stingscourger
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>>48454856
>haxing
having
Works either way I guess.
>t1 kill haax
>>48454861
Nice doublepost
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>>48454856
If the only decisions are mulligans, its autipilot. There's no reason to scout, its not like you're not going for it turn 1.
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>>48454928
>If the only decisions are mulligans
Wrong again.

You definitely won't go for it t1 if you're one mana away from 100% lethal with Belcher if your other option involved ETW vs Lands or Miracles for instance.
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>>48452063
The mana in that deck is insane. Honestly though therapy with the veteran is the best. Discard+mini ritual for free is disgusting. The issue with the deck is that cutting business spells made it less consistent and trying to run 4 colors with plenty of basics leads to too much tension in the manabase. I just haven't quite sorted it out yet. Tries a BUG version but I really missed the wishes.
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>>48454954
Ok, if you have 6 mana and 2 threats g1sure. I've played Belcher. The decision trees are straight more often than not.
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>>48450173
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/06-07-16-blade/
I played this yesterday
>VS Grixis Delver 2-0
>VS Omnishow 0-2
>VS Merfolk 2-1
>VS Canadian Delver 2-0
>VS Esper Deathblade 2-0
>VS Reanimator 2-0
>VS AIT 2-1
Then split at finals with my bro who was playing Infect.

My sideboard was
1x Engineered Plague
2x Kor Firewalker
2x Rest in Peace
2x Surgical Extraction
2x Ashen Rider
2x Zealous Persecution
2x Pithing Needle
2x Ratchet Bomb
And I only ever used Rest in Peace, Plage, Persecution and the artifacts, the Kor barely saved me from Tendrils but I kept on wishing it was dedicated storm hate instead of a lucky coincidence.
Do you think it's a good idea to drop the Riders, Firewalkers and Extractions for 3 Oblivion Rings, 2 Ethersworn Canonist/Spirit of the Labirynth and a third RiP?
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>>48455236
Drop that stuff for some disenchants, containment priests and canonists. Run vindicate over O ring.
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>>48455236
....Kor saved from tendrils?
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>>48455357
Vindicate doesn't eat Emrakul.
>>48455365
Their rituals gave me more life than Tendrills could take away. It was the red Storm not Ad Nauseaum.
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>>48455464
Vindicate doesn't eat it to Wear//Tear and can Stone Rain people. If your opponent resolved an Emmy, you're probably just dead.
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>>48455571
I guess Oblivion Ring is for Omnishow matches, you show the Ring and exile what they played. I sideboard them in Burn and have won some matches out of it.
It should be 2 Vindicate main, 2 Oblivion Ring sideboard.
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>>48450173
>anti-fun general
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>>48451044
That deck looks sick. Do you ever Entomb Lingering Souls? Have you considered cutting some basic lands and other spells for a set of Gitaxian Probe?

>>48454682
Not every deck with Belcher is an autopilot deck

>>48454861
Hey, that deck looks familiar. Do you play on XMage?
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>>48455985
was this you a few months ago? why the changes?
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>>48455464
Oh it was the epic storm version. Now it makes sense.
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>>48456164
Yeah, that's my deck. The changes are only minor, but I started tweaking stuff after I got to test on XMage (there's almost no paper Legacy in my area).

So let's see,
I bought the Plateaus

I was never happy to see Cursed Scroll or Solitary Confinement so I cut them completely

I went back and forth on Isochron Scepter, but eventually decided it was more often a blowout in my opponent's favor than in my favor

After testing against a wider range of decks I identified that Miracles and Burn are probably the deck's worst matchups, and T1 Canonist is the stone-cold nuts against almost every combo deck, so I changed the sideboard up around that, and cut some hate cards I wasn't using. Moved Ivory Tower into the main (although I might switch it out for a second Zuran Orb).

I cut Batterskull because Artifact removal is more common in sideboards than enchantment hate and it would always get blown up. Assemble is strong, especially after Humility, but it's slow.

I've got three copies of pic related in the mail, gonna find a spot for them somewhere in the 75 to help with the Miracles MU and allow me to play around removal better.
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You guys play the weirdest shit.
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When's the next banlist update?

I'm playing legacy-lite (pauper) and this peregrine drake shit is out of hand
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>>48456898
>When's the next banlist update?
There just was one, no changes.

Next will be when Kaladesh comes out in a few months.
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>>48455985
I don't play on xmage, but I do mess around on cockatrice.

Have you tried Lands Edge against Miracles? It used to be good for me. 20 years ago.

>>48456781
I'm the reason your mama told you to stay away from the losers bracket
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Been building RUG Delver for a few months, haven't gotten very far... Anyone have $2500 laying around?


Why did my deckfu in the best format have to be so expensive? :(
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>>48450173
>Playin
R Stax
Tezzerator
Anything that plays Chalice as a 4 of
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>>48457046
>I don't play on xmage, but I do mess around on cockatrice.
I've played against someone with a similar deck on XMage a few times now. Most recently he beat me because I made the mistake of not killing Moggcatcher on sight and got locked out of the game by Kiki/Settler/Trinisphere combo as an StP rotted in my hand.

I'll have to try Land's Edge. One of the ways we beat Miracles is by having threats at different CMCs and it seems like a good fit for 3.
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Has pic related ever seen play? It can be pitched to opposing lili for days and is a blowout vs Hymn decks.
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>>48457427
>not online warrioring on mtgo
I'm on BURG though
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>>48456898
what about goose
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>>48457485
Moggcatcher + chalice is the best. I like getting Rabblemaster, attacking for one, then getting Kiki and attacking for 13.

I think its the best Red Stompy shell right now, but there is definitely a humans list out there
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>>48457560
The goose, while loose, is a good addition, giving any blue deck an infinite mana combo of 3 cards that are all independently good is kinda warping
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Anyone for some games on cockatrice? Username is ManyCookies, send a PM if you wanna play.
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>>48457527
Its too narrow
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So, the real question is "How bad is Doomsday".
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>>48457747
Dies to thought scour. I kid. Don't have a clue.
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>>48457747
Its alright, but likely worse than ANT, TES, Belcher, SI and High Tide
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What are the best nonlands to take out of RUG Delver if I'm adding black for 4 Abrupt Decays (because miracles fucks this deck in the ass)? My list runs 2 Forked Bolts, a True-Name, and a cheeky Edric, so probably those? And should I strongly consider Deathrite if I'm adding black? I'm not convinced he'd be better than my geese.

Also fuck just playing BUG delver, Lightning Bolt is my waifu.
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So, show of hands, how many legacy people here hate RUG delver?
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>>48458026
I love it. Why would you hate it?
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>>48458013
Do a 2/2 mb/sb split, cut Edric and a Forked bolt
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>>48458079
Sounds perfect.
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>>48458026
I think RUG Delver is cool. Canadian Thresh is actually pretty old school now, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.
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>>48458125
>>48458062
I like it too, just a lot of people at my shop bitch about it and I was curious what you guys felt.
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>>48458013
I think 3 decays are enough, it's a little clunky to cast with four colors
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>>48458149
Are they running 4c Shitpile.dek?
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>>48458149
Those guys are fags. The only Legacy deck worth bitching about is Miracles because it's overly dominant.
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>>48458166
No. Some ant, high tide, Stax, painter, miracles, show and tell, just all over to be honest. But real decks, no brews.

>>48458173
That's what I gathered. A lot of these guys just hate creatures, I feel.
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>>48458162
Stifle helps protect your shitawful mana
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>>48458315
so does DRS, you cant have all three colors all the time though
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>>48458363
>>48458277
My opinion is that Delver is actually one of the harder decks to play, and when you go 4c you have to really consider your fetches.

If Miracles and Sneak and Show bitch about RUG, kindly remind them that they are playing the biggest Ape decks in the format. RUG Delver is difficult to navigate, which is why people don't like to play it. There are a lot of things to consider.
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>>48457739
Shame, I found a few digging through bulk and it struck me as a card which does quite a lot vs discard heavy decks just by sitting in your hand.
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>>48457747
>>48457958
It's different. It's about a half a turn slower than ANT on average. It trades speed for the ability to play through silly amounts of permanent based hate. For example i've beat DnT with thalia, spirit of the labyrinth and ethersworn canonist on board to my basic swamp and basic island. the downside is that the increased difficulty plus the fact that messing up=losing makes it highly questionable whether it is worth playing over any other storm variant. I play it because I like it and I think it is good/fun. It did top 8 an scg legacy classic recently, so it is a real deck.
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>>48458026
It's the meekest, fairest Delver variant.
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>>48458510
Eh, Miracles is actually quite hard to play, it's common knowledge the deck is not ban-level opressive yet not because it doesn't have the potential to be, but because most people who play it don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Most decks in Legacy are pretty hard and you need a lot of experience to not miss incredibly narrow but vital plays. But yes, Omnishow is the format's ape deck, even Fearless Dredge asks more decisions out of you and you can't either mulligan or sideboard with that shit.
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>>48458510
>consider your fetches

Not if my fetchable lands are 2 each of Underground Sea, Tropical Island, and Volcanic Island. Then just run 8-9 fetches that grab islands.
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>>48459385
I think that if you find it fun, you should play it. I do think that you need to admit when you're playing a deck because you like it, as opposed to because it's objectively the best choice.

>>48461302
More that you need to think about which lands you're fetching out. If you grab a volc when you dont need it, you can end up with dead cards in hand.

>>48461196
Miracle's being hard to play has always seemed like a thing that Miracles players say. Terminus and Counterbalance are both ape cards. You can play like a retard and win randomly because of them.

The rest of the deck requires a bit more finesse, but to be honest I don't find it nearly as hard to play as Storm, Delver, Death and Taxes, Painter or a bunch of other decks. Weissman school decks have always seemed really hard to play, but once you settle into the school of thinking they aren't all that strenuous.
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>>48461488
Ah, I see what you meant about the fetches.

Another problem that gets worse with 4c is running out of sources of a color. Just doing RUG Delver it's not infrequent against D&T to fetch all 3 volcs in my deck and have each one wastelanded after it gets fetched.
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>>48461488
>Weissman school decks have always seemed really hard to play, but once you settle into the school of thinking they aren't all that strenuous.
The old saying about control decks is that they're the easiest to play when you're winning and the hardest when you're losing. Unlike most control decks, though, Miracles can just sorta win off of how powerful its cards are. Kinda like how Twin was in Modern.
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>>48461548
You need to use Stifle really defensively, at least that's my current theory.
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Post moments that made you realize that Legacy was THE format to play.

>borrowing DnT playing against sneak and show
>Show and Tell, had Revoker in hand, name Griselbrand as we presented our cards
>mfw it was Griselbrand and he can't even swing with it cause of mom+flickerwhisp
>Proceed to clean things up with Karakas and beatdown

I now got my own DnT and it's been the most fun I've ever had with the game when I do find other legacy players.
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>>48462620
Death and Taxes vs Sneak and Show is one of the most tilted matchups ever. It never ceases to amaze me that the Mono White deck beats the everloving shit out of the big bad combo deck
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Reporting in
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>>48463218
Yeah, DnT has a lot more play than you might think. Only problem is you have a lot less room for error than all the brainstorm decks.
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>>48462620
When I beat Miracles at Legacy League Finals with pic related.
>Get into top8 with Burn and Manaless Dredge
>Everyone will try and sideboard the fuck out of me
>Don't know what do, play 8Rack in Modern, decide to make a Pox-Rack thing for Legacy, add skellies because no Bloodghast
>Get to finals, Miracles counters Bob, Liliana, Smallpox, but skellies keep coming for chip damage. G2 I extirpate both Top and Counterbalance, then Lilly fucks him up.

This couldn't have happened in any other format. Since then I've invested heavily and now own Stoneblade, D&T, Burn, Dredge and Reanimator but PoxRack is still my pet deck.

The faggot who knew he was my first opponent played motherfucking Soul Sisters with a playset of Grafdigger's Cage on the side. Fucking bitch go what was coming to him.
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I'm a huge fag who only owns Burn, but my shop allows 100% proxy decks, so I've played a variety of decks including:
Reset Tide
U/W Wizards
G/B Surgical Extraction
Jund Nic Fit
Death & Taxes
Life.dec
G/U Snakes
ANT
W/B Helm Control
Alluren
Turbo Depths
Waterfalls
Nourishing Lich
White Stax
Black Pox
Moldy Cheerios

I have to say, you get to learn a lot about general deck strategy playing a lot of different decks, and I recommend trying out a bunch of different deck types just to learn how to play against them. I mostly just play Burn now, because I can't afford other decks and refuse to get chinaman proxies, but I've been thinking of getting Junk Nic Fit. The Nic Fit type of G/B control is a lot of fun (even if it's not good for a big event).
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I'm seriously considering getting chinaman because I really dislike white borders and the cheapest I could get the duals I need in black border would be $500+ for just a single Bayou and Scrubland. And chinamen make FBB duals which nobody would double check at my LGS.
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kinda want to sell D&T and just be done with this game. i've already offloaded my standard and modern collection.
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>>48463669
>Reset Tide
>Jund Nic Fit
>G/U Snakes
>ANT
>Waterfalls
>Nourishing Lich
>Moldy Cheerios
I like lurking Legacy threads because 90% of the time I'm pretty sure you fuckers are just making up deck names
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>>48463813
do it faggot
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>>48458026
When I take my Dredge to town I hate how I can actually lose g1 to RUG since you usually have to try to resolve some loot spells (they usually won't) and can't wait for DDD unless your hand is otherwise gas. Stifle fucks Cephalid Coliseum. I've been thinking about putting in Lotus Petals to mb to speed the deck up a turn and make it more resilient vs Daze and put anti-hate + 1-2 extra lands to sb.
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>>48463834
alright.
evens: scg (reasonable postage, fairest grading)
odds: cfb (huge postage, merchant-tier grading)
zeroes: lgs (i'll get like $300 for it, foils and all)
trips: i burn it in the hibachi. kek wills it to be so.
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>>48463887
fuck son
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>>48463887
>>48463921
do it faggot
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almost done with Nic-Fit, just missing Verdant Catacombs and the duals.

Where can I get good proxies of Bayous and Verdants?
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Is merfolk any good or am I just better off playing death and taxes? My lgs is full of miracles, sneak and show, and delver decks.
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>>48463371
DnT is really hard to play optimally. Port is the kind of card that looks innocuous until you blow people out of the water by porting fetches and shit they wouldnt expect
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>>48464170
Its not bad, its a good place to start but I think Death and Taxes is a lot better. More room for play skill, and in general it has better tools in every matchup.
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>>48463819
Other great deck names:
Deadguy Ale
Spanish Inquisition
Sylvan Plug
Meathooks
Parfait
The Gate
5 Color Aggro Zombies
MUD
Maverick
Big Red
Solidarity
Robots
RosenBlade
Food Griffon
Zombardment

Am I missing anything?
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>>48464257
I've never heard of 5 color aggro zombies, sylvan plug or rosenblade, can someone give me an overview?

Also solidarity and reset tide are the same deck, and big red is just stompy if I'm not mistaken
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>>48464257
Noble Fish
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>>48464257
Mighty Quinn
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>>48464303
Big Red relies on cheating out Griselbrand and Inferno Titan with Sneak Attack, but can also hardcast stuff like Godo and start double strike Batterskull beats.
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Big Red is stompy with Seething Song. 5 Color Aggro Zombies is a better name for Dredge. Rosenblade is a UWR blade list thatsvery vintagey
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>>48464381
>Dredge
>Aggro
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>>48464395
Its an aggro deck at heart
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>>48464460
Nigger, a deck that does nothing witbout access to the graveyard, reanimates Iona t1 after sideboarding, shits out 30 power by turn 3 without casting a single creature and is heterogenic as all hell is not an aggro one.
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>>48464486
A deck that wins most of its games by attacking with a bunch of cheap creatures is an aggro deck.
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>>48464513
I think you need help.
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>>48464535
I think you need to play dredge before talking about it. The number of games where you flip over your library are far fewer than the number of games where you get a couple creatures out at a time and nickel and dime them to death.
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>>48464032
digits have not repeated, friend
also

>>48463887
rolling
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>>48464579
Spending 2 turns on killing someone with 2-4 Ichorids and the 4-16 zombies the first batch produces is not what I would call "nickel and diming". T1 flips are pretty common against any deck without permission and basically the only way to beat an active DRS that would otherwise snipe every Ichorid and Narco. Even if the only beater in the entire deck was Nacromoeba, since you don't pay its mana cost 99.99% of the time, it sure as hell isn't an aggro deck.
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>>48464513
TES is an aggro deck?
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>>48464632
TES is an Aggro-combo deck. Its trying to kill someone in 1-2 attacks. Dredge usually gets by making an Ichorid and 1-2 zombies a turn, and killing over time
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>>48464691
You should probably stop posting for everyone's sake at this point.
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>>48464709
Yup Ill stop posting if that makes you feel like you proved your point. Ill keep cutting Dread Return.
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>>48464750
>TES is an Aggro deck
>Aggro deck

My god man. Attacking with creatures does not make a deck an aggro deck. Miracles used to win with 3-4 angel tokens attacking, is it an aggro deck too?
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>>48464940
>Aggro-combo
A combo deck thats looking to go off turn 1-2 is aggro combo.
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>>48464959
Right, so miracles is aggro-control. It's looking to go off turn 8 or more, so it fits aggro control to a tee.
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>>48465168
Its hard control. It isn't looking to combine cards together, it uses one card which ends the game quickly by itself. Sneak and Show or Painter are more aggro-control.
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>>48465284
Except sneak and show is a combo deck, and painter attacks with 1/1s and 1/3s as a last resort if all the lock pieces and combo fail them.
But ok, if that'show you want to play it, then you might say miracles combines top and entreat to go off at the end of it's opponents turn, and beat face, after controlling for a bit. So it is truly a transcendent deck, it combines all three elements to become aggro-combo-control.
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>>48465328
What?
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>>48465444
Exactly. Your thought process makes no sense.
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>>48465444
He's making fun of you, you mong.
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>>48462620
>play d&t against omnitell
>he can't do anything combat-related because of heretic thalia and karakas
>he can't risk lab man because he knows i maindeck four flickerwisps and one fiend hunter with a vial on 3
just white weenie things
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>>48461488
In my case, Doomsday actually is the best choice for me since it's the only deck I feel comfortable with. I started playing it because it was fun, then became competent, and experience has shown it's not worse than other storm variants except in combo/burn-heavy metas.
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>>48463819
>>48464257
>>48464303
>>48464312
>2016
>not playing Junderdome
>not playing 4Goyf
>not playing Roseanne.dec
>not playing Tin Fins
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>>48463887
Burn them. Free yourself anon.

Also post pics or you're a big fat PHONY.
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>>48464142
china[\spoiler]
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>playing magic for years
>legacy was still a pro tour format when I started
>all the high power shenanigans I witnessed in that time ignited my love for the game
>brought me out of my scrub phase sooner than normal
>years later, the scene doesn't exist anywhere near my new home
>got sick of modern
>never liked standard
>start building a legacy storm deck because it's something I've always wanted
>friends insist I cease this fruitless endeavor and play standard with them
>dun wanna
>bought a volc and my first LED last week

I can't actually play legacy around here. Despite that, I feel compelled to see this thing to completion. Maybe this is a swan song. I have been feeling entirely unmotivated beyond constructing this deck in the realm of magic.
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>>48467126
Our shop fires legacy twice a week. Just look around more.
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>>48467126
My nigga...
I swapped over to MTGO awhile back because of a similar problem. Sold my paper Legacy/Modern playables, bought into MTGO Legacy+Vintage. The local scene just completely died awhile back and the lack of Legacy tournaments just kind of killed the point of having a paper collection for me.
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>>48467164
True, I could find a game if I want to travel three hours to the nearest city.
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>>48467308
Do you really like your rural life? Everyone is moving to proper cities for a reason.

I'm sure your life would get better even outside of MTG.
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I have a budget Infect deck that should be legal in legacy format. Don't know how it would actually stand up to any other deck though.

>Marsh Viper x4
Delivers 2 poison counters
>Suq'Ata Assassin x4
Delivers 1 poison counter; can't be blocked unless blocking creature has Fear
>Sabertooth Cobra x4
Delivers 2 poison counters
>Pit Scorpion x4
Delivers 1 poison counter
>Swamp Mosquito x4
Delivers 1 poison counter

>Web x2
>Spider Climb x3
>Dragon Shadow x4
Enchanted creature gets Fear, so it's less likely to be blockable
>Fervor x1
Haste all creatures
>Venomous Fangs x3
Enchanted creature gets Deathtouch

>Forest x10
>Swamp x8
>Havenwood Battleground x4
>Geothermal Device x4
For that 1 red mana that I'll need to cast Fervor, and it can be sacrificed for both green and black mana

Sideboard: (WIP)

>Lowland Basilisk
>Plague Fiend
Both for Deathtouch, perhaps if my Infect creatures keep getting blocked
>Crypt Cobra
Should probably be in my deck, but it seems a bit too costly
>Vitalize?
>Reflexes?
>Crumble?
Not sure if I need artifact control. The drawback of restoring opponents' life isn't an issue since my deck relies on poison counters only.

I probably should have some counterspells.
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>>48467460
Guy...
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>>48467460
The more I look at this, the better it gets. Bravo anon. It's perfect. Just be sure to run a set of Foil. Maybe a Fog or two in the side.
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>>48467499

Okay. Thanks for contributing.
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>>48467460
I'll try to not be a dicknozzle since you're clearly about casual play. I'd add in glistener elf and maybe viridian corrupter since they're green and inexpensive. look at vines of vastwood and appstle's blessing to protect your creatures; they work better than counterspells in this type of deck. other good options are carrion call and tezzerets gambit for card advantage and pseudo-reach.
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>>48467460
If you are truly ignorant and not just baiting spergs, might I recommend you take a trip to mtgtop8.com. Hit the legacy tab and scope the columns on the left for Infect. Then browse the lists for ideas.
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>>48467460
Le Terminus face ;^)
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I happen to own a couple of dreadnoughts and force of wills, as well a full set of stifles and too many brainstorms to count. Is this worth expanding into a legacy deck? Would only be played casually.
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>>48468382
might as well if you have the expensive stuff
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>>48468382
I don't see why not. Throw in some Daze, Trinket Mage, and maybe some Bobs.
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>>48468682
That's kind of what I was thinking. Would require more investment, though. Neither my 2 dreadnoughts nor 2 force of wills see any play in EDH. Except when I want to see the reaction from hardcasting a force, at least.
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>>48468985
Stiflenought is a super fun deck, not tier 1 or anything, but really fun. You can play eater of days in it too.
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>MTGO Legacy Festival Championship
>13 unique decks in the top 16
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>>48466396
>>48464257
I mean, mostly I like them because sometimes they actually have reasons behind why they're named silly things, but it feels like sometimes people just make shit up
like "Sylvan Plug," isn't that just a green aggro deck?
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>>48470021
prison deck with Sylvan Lib
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>>48464257
Brave Sir Robin
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>>48470021
Sylvan plug is G/x Stompy. It isn't mono green and doesn't have a prominent creature type, so it was named after a statue in Paris
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>>48469954
Link to decklists?
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>>48469954
It probably would have been more diverse if Port was playable on mtgo
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>>48470146
>>48470021
well, it was kind of named after a statue in Paris. the statue just reminded the dude who designed the deck of a big green butt plug.
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>>48470326
The deck is a giant, green buttplug
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>>48470364
yeah that's why the statue reminded him of it.
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>>48470163
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/legacy-champs-2016-07-25
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>playing on cockatrice
>burn vs reanimator
>use pic on the griselbrand in his graveyard
>he tries to Daze it
>tell him he can't
>he quits
kek, the only thing better than combo player tears are miracles player tears.
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>>48463887
>887
>off by one
>no repeating digits yet
rolling for barbecue them fgt
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>>48471513
To be fair, I'd leave just because testing vs someone who runs macabre instead of cage, extraction, bomb, relic or crypt isn't worth it.
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>>48472236
>heh, scrub. I only play against """"real""""" cards. I'm totally not scooping because I'm buttravaged.
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>>48472236
Macabre is actually better in some decks. Why would Burn want any of those? Its not like its looking to play a long game. Having an uncounterable way to slow down the opponent seems better to me.
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>>48463887
If someone gets 123, go to your local store, find a nice looking kid and give them a legacy deck.
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>>48472236
Please play more Legacy.
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>>48472314
Against turn 1-2 graveyard decks, the average burn goldfish _is_ a long game, especially when it can't disrupt without sideboard bullets at all. If you're gonna hate, do it right. I mean, good luck vs Dredge with Macabres.
>>48472272
No really, you're just doing yourself humongous disfavor by running it.
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>>48472516
Yeah, it's bad vs Dredge, but against turn 1 graveyard decks Macabre is the best option. if you try to drop a relic or cage and it gets countered, you just lost the game.
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>>48468382
Get Torpor Orbs and play Stiflenought.
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>>48472236
Burn doesn't run Cage, Extraction, Bomb or Leyline for grave hate, they run either Macabre or Tormod's Crypt specifically because they can be cast through Daze/Chancellor.
It is more valuable to test and learn to play around all silver bullets than running away like a faggot
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>>48472516
How is going long against Reanimator even close to a plan? Why would you be favored going long against Dredge?
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>>48472236
>but I'd still try to daze the faerie
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I wish I had Lilianas
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>>48473703
you have an English tabernacle but can't afford lotv?
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>>48473722
hnnnng, Enchantress makes me so hard.
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>>48473766
She's expensive.
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>>48473989
You could probably trade the Tabernacle for an italian Tabernacle and two Lillys.
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>>48474197
That would upset my beanpaste, since then 1 card wouldn't be in English.

I wish I'd picked up Lilianas when they were 30 quid per.
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>>48474234
But she's only about 90 burger bucks. What do you need lilies for anyway?
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Any more stupid-ass buyouts recently?
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How difficult to play is Painter? Its my dream Legacy deck.
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>>48476721
Narwhal was the last I heard of

>>48478345
Painter player here, the deck has a lot of depth and a lot of tutor/Top decisions to make. I'd say that its not easy to play, but also approachable. Its more a matter of knowing what your hand does and which game plan to go with.
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>>48478445
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/382502

Thinking of making this version. No White splash for Tutor. Seems good?
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>>48478521
Thats a version trying to beat Miracles and Eldrazi specifically from the looks of it.The only things I'd recommend trying if you want to stay mono-red is 2 Fiery Confluence somewhere in there, 2 Koth in the sideboard, at least 1 more Welder and 2 more fetches to go with Top.

I do like the R/W version better because you don't need to jam 4 Crypt and 4 Thorn to beat combo decks, and you have access to more potent sideboard slots. Mono red is still viable, I don't think there is definitively one "best" build of Painter right now.
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Fuck Miracles, fuck Storm, fuck Lands because here's what i'm going to do.

I'm going to cast False Cure then cast a bunch of Skyshroud Cutter's and Reverent Silences for their alternate costs. If that doesn't work I'm going to attack with a massive Kavu Predator.
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>>48479988
If you hate Miracles, Storm and Lands try Goblin Stompy
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>>48473722
Unban Earthcraft
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Foil out the scourge tendrils or pick up the promo? Which one will objectively win me more games?
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>>48483248
Promo looks shit, gotta be scourge
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>>48483248
Promo all the way
Also this Dark Ritual
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>>48485227
I don't suppose there is any way to get tempest rits in foil?
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>>48483248
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>>48474853
Well, for me it's about 100 quid per, which translates into 525ish dollars for a playset.

>What do you need lilies for anyway?

Nothing in particular, it's just a chase card I don't have.
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>>48473722
>Almost finished Enchantress
>Save up cash to get a Moat
>Moat buyout
>Die inside
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>>48485587
I'm looking around and it seems a nm copy is pretty scarce.
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Aw yeah, scrounged up
2x Phyrexian Dreadnought
2x Force of Will
3x Stifle
1x Torpor Orb
1x JtMS
3x Daze
4x Brainstorm
2x Mishra's Factory
1x Polluted Delta
1x Misdirection

From my collection. I'm going to slowly buy cards until a deck is built. Unfortunately, while I own 4 dual lands, none of them have U.
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>>48485742
Isn't solitary or island sanctuary just better?
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>>48486169
Sell the ones you do have, buy a blue dual. You likely don't need more than 2. you're mostly blue anyway, you can probably get away with 1 splash color like red.
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>>48486589
Moat's normally seen as a meta choice these days.

Since Delver, DRS, Emrakul and so either fly or don't need to attack, Moat's lost some edge.

SolCon is good (i'm running a pair anyway) but needs a draw engine to keep going. Same with Island Sanc, to a degree.
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