Feelin Bad Please Advice

Been there, done that, seen a shrink, got better.

>>48416841
Any advice?

>>48416834
I had a player who we had to ban from sugary drinks once, he made a descent effort to behave but was clearly not naturally restrained.
It took some work but we managed to get by. An awareness of the problem on your behalf is a must, as is a willingness on behalf of the group to help you realise when you need to calm down.
Assuming you're like him of course.

>>48416860
Not him, but the advice is clear as day.
See a shrink.

>>48416860
Regular exercise and a solid sleeping schedule are two of the most reliable ways to get out of the rut of depression. They're not a cure-all by any means, and you should still seek a therapist if you can, but a healthy body will go a long way towards a healthy state of mind.

Also, this really doesn't belong on this board, but I have no idea where else you could post it.

>>48417152
Agreed. If your friends can't stand to be near you even once a week, you need to see a psychiatrist.

>>48416834
I hope you live in a country with socialist healthcare so you can get the help you need.

America has that now, right?

>>48416834
Depression runs in my family - I've got it, both my siblings have it, both my parents have it. My bad.episodes at their worst have lasted a year, but I'm agreeing with other people here - every time I got it off it was due to exercise and talking about it. Whether that's a counsellor or anyone else, it's important to do that.

>>48417260

Government health insurance should cover psychological help as well, so that's all well and good.

If he's not sure where to get help, he can ask about it at a doctor's office during a checkup and get a referral.

I kind of like being depressed. Not getting out of bed ever is kind of cozy.

>>48416834
>I just recently stopped being so depressed that I don't leave my room or eat and am now just regular depressed so I'm good now
You were never really depressed, you just sound like a sad sack of shit.
Depression is a long-term neurochemical imbalance, it never ever lasts for just one fucking week you autist
The reason you feel depressed is your garbage diet, garbage physical health due to lack of proper physical conditioning (i.e. exercise) and a fundamental lack of a spine.

t. someone who's actually had Major Depressive Disorder that lasted for a year where 'not leaving my room' was just completely normal, not something so wacky and out there compared to the other shit that I'd consider it a symptom of depression

>>48418985
That's not being depressed, that's being lazy you fat fuck

>>48416834
This is not your blog. This is not remotely /tg/ related. You're a lieing NARP faggot. Go to /adv/ or /r9k/ where you belong.

>>48416915
>An awareness of the problem on your behalf is a must
This.
I recently had a player "leave" (they were going to be booted anyway) my group, and the guy isn't bad, just has some severe headcase issues they refuse to confront.
Hell, he even admitted to realizing they were a problem, but when push comes to shove and they come to the fore, when he is called out on his behavior, he never takes responsibility for his actions, always blaming others for how he acts and is received.
It's sorta sad, but he managed to piss off the two guys at the table LEAST likely to get mad, and that is something I thought I'd never see.

>>48419440
He never said that he actually had the psychological disability of depression, just that he was depressed. You can be temporarily fucked up enough that people don't want to be around you without needing it to be some sort of long-term ordeal. If he saw a psychiatrist, which he should, then he probably wouldn't be diagnosed with depression unless if he's had these episodes on a frequent enough basis that it significantly disrupted his daily function.

This is coming from someone who has actual ADHD and is absolutely fed up with people saying that they had an "ADD moment" as an excuse.

>>48419560
Just trying to, in a roundabout way, hammer in the fact that labeling oneself with a disorder and then just resigning your fate to its wiles is retarded and should never be done, especially when it's clear that the disorder is completely absent.
In other words, telling him to man the fuck up and stop acting like a victim to his psyche.
I also have ADHD (though only diagnosed ways after my MDD) and would probably never sperg out about someone just using the term incorrectly, it's the infuriatingly self-pitying surrender to being a waste of space that annoys me.

"Depressed" people are a pain in the ass to deal with, far more than genuinely depressed people who, sadly in my experience, tend to just one day have hanged themselves in their bathroom rather than be annoying whinging tosspots

>>48419621
It's better that he seeks an evaluation from a medical professional who can tell him with much greater authority that he either doesn't have depression or that he does and needs a strategy of some sort to deal with it. Whether that includes therapy, medication, or some other training is up to the doctor. In the end, telling someone to just tough it up doesn't quite have the effect that you want, because anyone who wants to disbelieve others with the condition will just do so. No one actually cares about the truth, except for those truly affected and need solutions to function. Everyone else is just posturing their own comfort zones.

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>>48416834
Hi there Anon. I've been in a similar boat as your for like the last five or six years. However I am happy to say that over the last few months I've started to get better. Like I'm not out of the black pit that is depression but I've managed to climb far enough up the cavern wall that I can see the entrance shining up above, if you get what I mean.

You know its really interesting cause I just logged on to /tg/ just now because I was feeling down and upset and I was going to start an Emperor thread to make myself feel better. That may sound weird but its my own twist on a therapeutic technique my therapist introduced me to called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which I've found to be quite effective in combating my depression.

Like essentially how it works is the neural pathway in your brain work similarly to how bodies of water flow across the landscape. The water leaves its source and flows along the path of least resistance. And the longer that water flows down a particular pathway the more and more soil is washed away and soon you have a deep river cut into the landscape.

However suppose the river isn't flowing in the direction you need it to. Like suppose it flows so much into a valley off to the east so much that no one can live there because every so often the river floods the whole valley and washes everything away. And at the same time the plains off to the west get so little water that almost no one can live there either.

Well Cognitive Behavioral Therapy would be live if you started digging a canal that made more of the river water flow into the plains. Its hard, backbreaking work, but once you've managed it the result is that now not only is there enough water flowing into the plains for people to turn it into rich farmland, but people can also start living in the valley without fear of their homes being washed away.

(this is going to need a couple more posts to fit in everything)

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>>48421739
You see I've had so many shitty things happen to me in my life (the death of/or being abandoned by most of my relatives, abusive/drug addict father, living in a time where most teachers: 1. don't know about Asperger's Syndrome and 2. most teachers are female and punish you for acting like... well... a male human from the time you start Kindergarden until you graduate from High School. (to say nothing of the crap you have to put up with from females at university these days). Well I've had to deal with some much of this that the Neural Pathways (the river) in my brain have gotten so used to flowing in depressing/upsetting/unbalanced directions that for a period of several years there, my brain was unable to produce the chemicals that cause a person to feel happy/positive emotions.

This is where Cognitive Behavioral Therapy comes in. You essentially start purposely seeking out experiences that make you think positive/happy/joyful thoughts. You keep doing this until the neural paths in your brain a flowing in a way that allows it to start producing the happy feeling chemicals again.

Now this is something that is really fucking hard to do when you're depressed, and I'm the first to say that I didn't do it alone. Part of the reason its taken so long for my "rivers" to start flowing in the right direction is because it took me awhile to find supportive people who gave enough of a damn about me to help me dig, and I also had to use medication and just regular talk therapy sessions in conjunction with the Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. But after three years of digging, the "water" has started to flow in the directions I need it to, and though I do still get upset and like I said I still have a ways to go before I'm out of the Black Pit of Depression completely, but during the last few months I've realized that I've started to feel better/happier than I have in years!

(one more post)

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>>48421758
Like the reason I logged on to /tg/ just now was because I stumbled across a stupid you tube video that hit all the wrong button and really upset me. However I remembered to do this technique and... well this may sound a bit silly but I pictured being surround Daemons who were trying to eat my mind and drive me to despair. Then The Emperor, flanked by Optimus Prime and Richard Sharpe come charging and cut the fuckers down in a hail of gunfire and swordblades. Then The Emperor stands before me and offers me his hand. "HAVE NO FEAR ANON' he says to me, 'FOR THOUGH THIS IS A DARK AND UNCARING GALAXY, DO NOT FEAR. FOR YOU HAVE MY LIGHT AS BOTH YOUR SHIELD AND YOUR BOLTER." So I take his hand and he lifts me to my feet.

I daresay you get the idea. :P

I know it sounds silly, and maybe a bit childish when you hear it, but Thor as my witness it really does work.

Oh wow, I've made this into a wall of text. Sorry about that. Its just I've been where you are now and I just really wanted to communicate to you that it is possible to get better and more than that there are kind and caring people out there who will help you. Its just a matter of finding them.

If you're still upset I could add you on Facebook or Steam. I was actually planning to make a /k/ommando, Elegan/tg/entlemen, and other weird dudes who have trouble socializing group on Facebook or something, today. You or anyone else who wants to could join too if you want.

>>48421777
>I stumbled across a stupid you tube video that hit all the wrong button and really upset me.
Ouch, I've never had that happen to me but the first chapter of Worm was bad for me, bullying is a bit of a trigger for me.
Hope those bad feels pass soon Anon.

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>>48421872
Oh yeah I'm over it now. Which is actually a mark of how far I've come. Like if I watched the same video three years ago I'd probably still be in tears about it for the rest of the day and most of the next. However because of the Emperor vision thingy I just wrote about I feel fine now.

See that Chaos fans? Faith in The Emperor really does work! :D

>>48422143
Chaos loses a lot, they never win in the books and the AoS summer of war is Order steamroller.

>>48416834
Been suffering from dysthymia and anxiety for years. Therapy and medication make a world of difference. If you've got health insurance, you are almost certainly covered.

I've struggled with intense anxiety since my 20s. I really have no idea what caused it other than the possibility that it's something I inherited, but it just activated out of nowhere one day. I started having really intense panic attacks that sent me to the ER, and from there, I lost any sense of myself. Couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't even leave the house. I had to subsist on whatever calories I could get from drinking Gatorade for about six months straight while I was in a funk.

Anyway, it took me a couple of years to adjust to the onset of anxiety. I'm mostly back to a more normal routine, but there's really no way to control the occurrence of things like panic attacks. When they're going to happen, they're going to happen. The only medications I can take for that are extremely addictive and lead to physical dependency, and they can't actually be taken on a long-term basis due to tolerance. So it's not an issue of me not even making the effort to help myself, there just aren't any good solutions. It's far better that I manage the anxiety with what skills I picked up from therapy than become addicted to harmful substances.

One of the reasons I got into traditional games was because it seemed like a very quiet hobby that typically focused on small groups. I've found it's been very difficult to socialize with gaming groups, nonetheless. Even though I'm adjusted to the occurrence of anxiety and I don't necessarily allow it to inhibit my daily life, people around me can't seem to tolerate it as well as I do. So yeah, I've been dropped from RPing groups and MtG groups. At this point, I don't know if I should even bother trying to socialize anymore.

>>48422616
Try your best anon. You can make it. You just need to find better people to hang with. I have faith.

>>48417200
Probably the advice board, on the off chance he finds someone actually helpful.

>>48416834
Best way to handle depression is to talk with an expert who spent years of their lives training to handle shit exactly like this. You aren't the first person to have a shitty time, you won't be the last person, but you don't have to keep being that person either.

Second best way is to find newer friends who aren't drawing blanks when it comes to handling anyone with below average emotional stability. Somewhere along the way, with enough experience, you'll pick up some emotional stability of your own. But in the meantime, fuck those losers.

>>48419440
Fuck off with the "your sadness is different from my sadness" bullshit. No need to be a prick so you can feel special or important.

Games.

>>48421758
>living in a time where most teachers: 1. don't know about Asperger's Syndrome and 2. most teachers are female and punish you for acting like... well... a male human from the time you start Kindergarden until you graduate from High School.

You deserve everything negative that comes your way, you are the problem in any given situation in which you feel marginalised, and you will never understand that, never accept it, never even begin to try counterbalancing it by making a conscious effort to be decent.

Degenerate pile of filth.

>all those mental midgets
wew, I'm embarassed to browerse the same board as you

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>>48423083
I love you too Anon. :D

Say I know this is a long shot, but I don't suppose you'd like to meet up and fuck sometime?

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>>48421777
>tripfag
>blogpost
>penta-autism
>implications of weird sexual harassment
>tumblr mannerisms
>wacky sikrit club steamgroup
You are probably the closest thing to the antithesis of my conception of a good person that exists.

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>>48421777
>>48423083

>>48417260
Depends. A lot of states told Obama to fuck off regarding the affordable health care act. And when Trump gets elected he will make America great again

>>48416834
It's an election year.

Become a wandering campaign staffer, see the country, realize that almost everyone has it worse than you, stop being depressed, get promoted within the campaign, learn things no man was meant to know, go mad with horror, die in a dark alleyway at the hands of masked men from an agency that doesn't exist.

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>>48416834
Had a kinda similar experience
>Trying to get everyone together for campaign session I DM
>Not much time left before some players had to leave, causing campaign to die
>everyone knows where to be
>4/5 show up
>One is hanging out with bf
>Say she needs to be with him because she's sad
>I have horrible complex about not being able to help people because my mother liked my brothers over me
>Start to feel shitty
>Whatever, delay session one hour
>Hour and half later she isn't three
>Text her
>Nothing, feel bad
>Call her
>She's still fucking around with bf, feel bad
>Says she forgot, feel bad
>Feel worse
>My voice becomes monotone because feel bad
>Bf gets on phone to talk to me for some reason
>Start laying on kitchen counter will talking
>Slur words
>Stop caring about how awful I look laying on kitchen counter
>Say "please get over here"
>"Okay"
>Don't want to DM
>Friends are watching something while waiting in another room
>I'm just laying on kitchen counter
>Can't think of anything to even run anymore
>Just want to die
>Eventually drag myself to dnd table and sit in chair
>Everyone sits at table
>Just force start DMing
>Imagine world
>Imagine characters
>Hear the sounds
>Think of shitty f2p game I play
>All is calm
Just immerse yourself in dnd and you shall escape your horrid reality

>>48417260
I've been trying for a week to find a doctor at all on my shitty health care plan. It's either they're not taking new patients or they won't take my insurance - despite the search on the website for my insurance claiming that both of these were available. I found one place that can pencil me in the second week of October.

But I have a gun right now so I might just follow the advice implied by OP's image.

>>48416834
Are we all just going to ignore the fact that OP image exists now?

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>>48426087
It's nothing new.

>>48424266
At least he doesn't torture small animals to death or vote Communist.

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Unmedicated Schizo here. OP, I just want you to know. You're a cuck and if I can behave with some semblance of normalcy, so can you.

>>48426626
>Unmedicated Schizo here
Remember, 4chan isn't real.

>>48425867
anon, no!
Think of the poor people that move in after you. The blood goes, but the smell stays.

>>48419440
Nigga, he's talking about a depressive episode. I have Major Depressive Disorder and that's pretty fucking normal.

>>48426380
Fun Fact: Torturing small animals to death was the standard method of voting in the Soviet Union until the Nazis invaded in 1941. The Reds replaced the practice with the standard ballot method that everyone else uses. At first this was because they were unable to produce the required number of small animals during wartime and they never brought it back once they realised how much money it saved the government.

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>>48423083

>>48427672
Then I'll go to the woods nearby!

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>>48429226

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>>48429226
Modern trend feminism really is a plague of the mind.

>>48429285
Blood is the worst fertilizer ever mate, don't do that, you're gonna kill a bunch of plants

>we elf now

>>48416834
Exercise and do simple things.
The zen of washing dishes helps me when I'm depressed.

>>48431337
Corpses are good fertilizer, though. It's too hardcore for grass and little shrubbery, but if anon isn't found for a long time, the trees will eat him up and grow strong.

>>48421739
>>48421758
>>48421777
So, as anyone who's been on 4chan for a while will tell you, threads like this are a dime a dozen; you find them every day on /b/, /pol/, /r9k/, and even on /tg/.
After a while, you start to see patterns.

Replies to the OP usually take one of two possible forms: "take medication/see a doctor and all your problems will be solved," or "don't take the happy pills, you have to be able to do this on your own."
Both of these methods have their problems.

And then there's these three posts. Perhaps the most cringey, rambling, autistic, personal-blog-ey time post I've ever seen on threads like this. That being said, it is also the best advice posted so far.

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, coupled with more obvious treatments like medication, has been shown to be highly effective in many/most cases of depression, and I highly recommend OP listen to this advice (OK, well, maybe not the whole Emperor speaking to you part).

>>48433292
>Replies to the OP usually take one of two possible forms
Don't forget the posts that tell OP to just do it.

>>48419440
Why are you so angry about something that doesn't matter?

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>>48433292
As I understand it each individual has to find their own "happy place" as they say. You need to create positive thoughts and images in your mind to replace the negative ones.

I figured the example I used with the Emperor in it would be the best way to give other fa/tg/uys a general idea of what I meant by positive scenes/images/thoughts. But yeah the thoughts you create don't need to be /tg/ related if that isn't what works for you.

Also I reckon that the reason we keep having this same sort of threads over and over again is because the society we live in today isn't very good at teaching people how to interact with one another like adults. And since /tg/ is mostly about games that require social interaction with other adult aged people this subject just naturally come up a lot. And where else can you going to go for advice these days other than the internet?

>>48416834
Thats harsh, friends dont kick anybody out, they try to help.

True sometimes people have their own problems and you can hang on to people, who already have their issues.

But still. Its harsh. But life is abitch.